Woke up to my gaming monitor perishing after 6 good years of service.
Loked into my options, and it seemed like a decent opportunity to go 4k 144hz. Searched Amazon and found a "like new" refurbished MSI MAG281URF for $350 and blew my wad. How fricked am I?
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The modern gaming monitor is a massive scam. There is nothing "gaming" about a sample&hold display. The motion clarity is non-existent.
just go 1440p 240hz instead
odyssey g6 is pretty good or Innocn 27G1S if you dont care about using adaptive sync
>just go 1440p 240hz instead
I'd rather have higher resolution than higher refresh rate, especially for everything other than gaming.
the human eye can't see beyond 1440p.
Woah that's an interesting cutoff point! I'll take your word for it.
i mean if you have 4090 cash its whatever
Well considering your old monitor was 6y old and you consider a used monitor from amazon I dont think you'll have a pc that runs 4k games with ease
Did you leave it on 24/7? Or was it set to turn off automatically after a certain amount of Time?
Mines on 24/7. Ones from 2008 and still kicking, another from 2016 still going too.
well i turn my g7 off every night. you should consider undervolting your stuff, big things are going to kick off soon and computer parts are going to be like rare items
I kept it on perpetually, only down when the computer was also down. That happened to occur this morning. It was acquired second hand and had small issues from the beginning, so it was a gradual noticeable decline. It used to have to warm up until the visual artifiacting stopped, but now the bottom half is permanently fricked.
My current build is fine enough, I've just been waiting until this monitor gave me a reason to replace it. I can run 1440p 144hz, and if necessary I can upgrade to 5800X3D and a better card. I've never had a problem with factory refurbishing so I always consider it if the discount is good enough.
> It used to have to warm up until the visual artifiacting stopped, but now the bottom half is permanently fricked.
Sounds like cracked traces inside the LCD, which would contact after enough heat expansion.
But that same heat expansion also created more damage every time.
>Frick, I remember Wayland being marketed as pixel perfect over a decade ago.
Pixel perfectness and low latency are mutually exclusive things.
Yeah, I get that the concept has a specific meaning, I'm just stressing how long it's been since I've hoped to take advantage of Wayland's potential advancements. Though I do recall they recently conceded on this issue and are providing a way for games to tear, right?
Yeah.
It actually seems to be "warming up", just imperceptibly slowly. It covered half the screen before, but now it's around 40%. Still, it's time for me to upgrade ... Unless there may be some reason to waitchad? Maybe new panels on the horizon?
did you make sure all cables are still seated properly?
And, this may sound weird, but I like to run games windowed. I would generally prefer running a game in a 1440p window on a 2160p screen than running fullscreen 1440p. I also run some games, like Diablo-likes, in windowed 2560x1080. Let me know if this disgusts you.
doesn't that hurt your eyes?
I've never noticed it so I guess not. I can easily adjust my distance from the screen though, so maybe that has something to do with it.
I expected more vitriol! But yeah, it's totally autistic.
how do you avoid clicking off screen in a diablo game?
They usually include a "confine mouse to window" option, or I can force it with a Wine virtual desktop.
Yeah, I'm cognizant this must be the case, but I've never looked into how severe it is. Though in Linux X11 using picom as my compositor I turn v-sync off, or go as far as turning picom off. IIRC if I go fullscreen it does bypass the compositor exactly as you describe Windows does, so sometimes I just do that, but it doesn't always properly detect it. Maybe Wayland handles this better, dunno. Or Looking Glass with virtualization.
Oh yea on X11 you can just disable compositing and not suffer any latency penalty from running windowed.
>Wayland
On wayland you have forced VSync and compositing no matter what, no fullscreen bypass exists either. It's terrible for games.
Oh, that's good to hear. Well, for X11. Frick, I remember Wayland being marketed as pixel perfect over a decade ago.
Well shiiiiiiiiiiit...
I know another autlist like you.
Each to their own.
You do know this adds a shit ton of latency, right? Since the game has to go through the full windows compositing pipeline with forced vsync and all, instead of doing direct buffer flips to the display.
same here. I use a 55 inch QLED and some games like Dota 2 are impossible to play in full screen cause you have to turn your head all the time, so I play windowed 1440p while having a frickton of space left for other stuff like youtube, discord, steam chat, whatsapp, etc. It helps that the TV has a lot of diming zones and if you want to keep only the window with the game open, the rest of the screen is OLED black cause the screen is off there. It's great for immersion. On these new Samsung TVs you can even turn them into 1440p ultrawide or 1600p wide from the TV settings and you can play the games full screen at a lower resolution with black bars on top and bottom.
For other games like Forza I play them in fullscreen cause it's better that way.
55 inch 4k is truly a gentleman's choice cause it gives you so many options. You can even split the screen into 4 equal 27 inch monitors. Wouldn't go above 55 inch though cause the PPI is too low, but wouldn't go below 55 inch either cause things get too small on the screen and harder to read.
Sounds like a cool setup, especially that dimming zone stuff. Yeah, I love being able to see my DE GUI and some other windows like chats around the game window on the same monitor. Unobtrusive notifications, too.
>i use a 55" TV as my monitor
>it's too big
big iq man right here
It's too big for certain games and perfect for other games.
On a big screen I can always make the window smaller or use the TV's settings to turn it into a smaller TV.
A small screen on the other hand can't be made bigger.
It really is a high IQ move.
>he likes input lag
lul
on the newer generations the input lag is actually quite small and besides that I'm not that good of a player where input lag actually makes a difference for me.
homie y u no buy cracked monitor and transplant the internals?