Would Final Fantasy still be popular if they stuck to the original anime art style?
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Would Final Fantasy still be popular if they stuck to the original anime art style?
Would Final Fantasy still be popular if they stuck to the original anime art style?
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Yes. Frick face scan and frick Square, I'll never forgive this shit.
Probably not. FF7 was anime as frick but you can still see the drift towards realism. Of the PS1 series of games, FF9 is the only one noticeably cartoony and whimsical artsyle. And I think people responded to that. Games like FF7 and MGS got a lot of attention for how movie like they were which was unheard of in video games and it continued into the PS2 generation. If FF stayed anime it probably would've been left behind.
FF has been left behind already, it's a dying franchise and the only part of it that is still kind of culturally relevant is an MMO. Nobody under the age of 30 cares about the series as a whole.
Yeah it's left behind now. Doesn't mean Squaresoft didn't have the late 90s and most of the 00s by the balls. It wasn't until the early 10s that FF's dominance over the JRPG scene started to be questioned. And by the late 10s and all of the 20s, FF is like JRPG's bumbling racist grandpa. It hangs on the porch and sometimes you can almost see how great it used to be but it's clear those times are over and you'd like for him to stop shitting himself.
It would be doing much better.
>If FF stayed anime it probably would've been left behind.
Dragon Quest and Persona franchise prove you wrong.
He's referring to Resident Evil on PS1, which means he immediately backpedaled on this when FFVIII came out.
Yeah, he backpedaled and ended up proving his original stance to be the correct one.
If they straight up made a Wind Waker, would it kill the series?
I think it'd be awesome, but I also think weebs have pretty awful taste at the best of times, and prefer it when everything looks like cosplay.
It's very clear they wanted to ape off Resident Evil 2 Remake's success. Cloud literally looks like the Leon model from that game with a different haircut and outfit.
VII Remake came out only a year after the RE2 remake, you're moronic.
>came out only a year after the RE2 remake
This just proves my point more. Both would have been in development for years simultaneously.
>still be popular
It's a dead franchise, same as Halo, same as Street Fighter, same as Sonic, same as all boomer IPs, no one cares about them anymore except delusional millennials and boomers.
The only company that still has relevant boomer IPs is Ninteno, and that's because tendies are just as delusional and brainrotted as the s0ilennials and boomers are.
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Frick you moron i'm tired of you Black folk playing black and white
if they stuck with the essence of the og games like dragon quest did then yeah i think so, nu-ff is completely different that i just dont see the appeal
>No
>It isnt popular anymore
It was pop culture back then, now its nerd culture(not even that)
It'd be more popular
The realistic humans in the remakes doing all these insane anime moves looks uncanny as frick
The action is fine, but the cutscenes and the world are weird as frick. You have these anime characters LARPing around next to regular people and it just doesn't blend. When the anime is isolated, it's great, but if you try to put it alongside Unity store NPCs, it's bizarre.
Smash Cloud doesn't get enough credit for how faithful he looks to FF7.
An actual remake in the style of 2 or 4 would’ve been great.
honestly the design is kind of shit.
it's totally off model.
pants are wrong, boots are wrong, shoulder armor is wrong.
New Cloud looks almost exactly like a 4K version of the original Cloud from the CGI cutscenes. Here's the CGI model that is missing from your image. The Smash character model literally looks fan made
Smash is the only one that got his hair right
The modernified, highly detailed buster sword really does look like shit now that I think about it
What I like about the Remake characters is that they look like the hypothetical real people that the cartoon versions were based on. If you were going to draw a caricature of Cloud on the right you'd come up with something that looks like Cloud on the left.
Beautiful. It really feels like they captured the atmosphere of a lot of the environments.
I want a modern remake to mimic the concept art 1:1 like pic related
Squenix should hire Monolith devs
Oh wait, Monolith consists of old Square devs that got burned LOL
Who did them more dirty, Square or Bamco? I would probably say Square since at least Bamco let them remaster one of their old series with Baten Kaitos
They said were frustrated working at both Square and Namco because of the lack of creative freedom they had. They also hated Square's management over Final Fantasy
Nintendo was the only willing to give them complete creative control on all their projects in return of being exclusive to their platform.
Go back to your FE general tendies monkey
the "art style" of bland realism in the remakes is one of the most disappointing aspects of its design
Popular or not, FF really should've stayed cartoony. Chasing realism fricked them in so many ways during the PS3 days and they never recovered.
The problem with the PS3 days was the stupid ass Fabula Nova Crystallis bullshit that was never going to work because one party hijacked the budget to make he waifu real, the other kept changing his mind as to what the frick Versus was supposed to be every week, and I can't even remember what happened with Agito which turned into Type-0 which I didn't play but I'm sure the circumstances that made it are equally stupid. SE got so caught up in trying to redefine something that they forgot to just make a game.
>and I can't even remember what happened with Agito which turned into Type-0 which I didn't play but I'm sure the circumstances that made it are equally stupid.
There really aren't "circumstances" beyond what you can see at face value. It didn't make significant progress until XIII-1 was nearing completion because the handheld game that was supposed to be a phone game was obviously the lowest priority when it came to engine feature development, at which point SE panicked at the reception to XIII and wanted to distance the remaining FNC titles from poisonous branding.
Realism is a cancerous plague in gaming and it always has been unless you're making some sort of sport or simulation shit.
I'd like to believe so but on the other hand the mass market gets a hard-on for their realism stuff. Plus the remake and 16 go for that slight stylized look we'd sometimes see in older games like MGS or RE which came close to looking like real life people, maybe even using facescan, but since the technology wasn't that strong yet you'd still get something stylized. I think it's more a fault of other aspects of the art direction. Look no further than the moogle in the remake. That's not even a fault of realism, that's just changing the design to look like a koala for no good reason.
Honestly no, I feel like the stylized realism look made it stand out compared to other jrpgs more
I just wish they didn't go further with the realism to the point you can see Clouds pores and shit
I'm still waiting for a real remake of 7. It will happen once the garbage trilogy is done, right? With all the assets they already made it will be childsplay, right?
The art style was an integral part of the humor, and in trying to preserve that charm and whimsy while at the same time fully transitioning into a hyper realistic art style they (probably unintentionally) shattered the soul of the series. In the past they still had enough talent and freedom to create such unique worlds that it wasn't as noticeable, but even in FF10 you could see the cracks beginning to show.
That's not FFX, that's the butchered "remaster"
They kept the sovl intact, but it just begs the question even harder: how the frick does Aerith's mom have such a nice house in the slums when everyone else is living in Mad Max metal huts? The more detailed you get, the less you can handwave anime shit.
People were asking that even back in 1997. It's not a new question just because Remake looks more realistic. Personally I was amazed at how faithful they managed to be. I was expecting garbage but when I saw the reactor it felt like they took the OG renders and made them real. Even the lighting they got right, which isn't just drab blues but has some "heat" to it with reds and yellows. Things I was afraid they'd fail to reproduce but they pulled it off.
It's the scene that's pertinent to my point, not the textures. In a more cartoonish style with text dialogue it wouldn't have been awkward whatsoever.
It's already not awkward. The problem has always been the audience not understanding intentional cringe.
>it's already not awkward
>the problem has always been the audience
Holy fricking cope.
>They kept the sovl intact, but it just begs the question even harder: how the frick does Aerith's mom have such a nice house in the slums
her husband worked a good job for shinra.
Heidegger's personal wiener sleeve?
It's not aerith house, it's elmyra
the house is actively monitored by Shinra.
that's clearly explained in the plot of the original and Remake
Glowies bought them nice hardwood floors and real windows? Tseng actually paying for all of that is a cute idea tho.
I would REALLY love a game that actually looks like the artwork.
I mean yeah, if anyone vandalized the house or tried to frick with Aerith they would just swoop in arrest them and fix the window.
They literally rebuilt Nibelheim from scratch.
For me it was when they made two FF13 sequels which was the reason why FF13 was so linear. And then said "HD game deberopmento haado!"
No you chink shit, it's because you wanted to sell sequels
They never even went back and remaster the original game to make it more like a real game.
Did you all forget about FF8 and how they went full realistic with their characters design?
OG Cloud looks unironically better.
No belt mental illness.
No spike mental illness.
Light colors.
It doesn't matter
FF never stopped having an anime artstyle, but if you're talking about 7's in particular it wouldn't mean shit because every FF has a different artstyle due to every game having different art directors.
Amano's art isn't the same as Nomura's which isn't the same as Yoshida's so forth and so on.
Besides the problem with Final Fantasy after the early 2000s was never the artstyle, that's historical revisionism. The problem is that every FF after X has some major design flaws among other things like bad art direction, shit characters/stories etc.
I hate how his pants aren’t tapered like the left. His baggy as frick parachute pants look moronic.
I can't unsee it make it stop
Moreso than it is right now, as low of a bar that is.
Anime style would've been far better.
If they did this then everyone would just be accusing Remake of being Fortnite trash.
That would imply Fortnite looks good, which it doesn't.
it would also imply that remake is not anime trash
The problems with the series, are more than just how the games look.
Yes, and it looks something like this (just pretend the figure joints aren't there)
But why do bolts stick out of his armor. is there some extra accessory that is somehow meant to be screwed on there that cloud just avoids because he's too cool?
Cloud's uniform is just some spare SOLDIER equipment that Zack put him in for their escape. So we don't really know what condition the gear was in.