Would it kill them to add voice actors to their games? It's just fricking jarring to see at this point.
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Would it kill them to add voice actors to their games? It's just fricking jarring to see at this point.
Would it kill them to add voice actors to their games? It's just fricking jarring to see at this point.
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Voice acting is something people beg for that they don't actually want and will just be a waste of time when they turn against it after the fact. Pokemon Masters has voice acting and it's fricking dogshit. I can't listen to those English voices so I either play with volume off or in Japanese where I don't have to understand what I'm hearing, and even then some of them sound like shrill voiced nonsense.
that's just the anime genre in general. always over the top squeaking or yelling otherwise the people watching won't understand how to feel
>I'd like the games to have voice acting please
>NO YOU DONT SWEATY, HERES AN IMAGINAEY SCENARIO IN WHICH THE VOICE ACTING IS BAD! SEE YOU DONT WANT THAT
>but can't we have good voice act-
>NO I ALREADY SAID THE VOICE ACTING WILL BE LE CRINGE AND YOU WONT LILE IT. GAMEFREAK IS NEVER WRONG, CHUD
Don't try and reason with them, they will just keep moving the goal post.
>>NO YOU DONT SWEATY, HERES AN IMAGINAEY SCENARIO IN WHICH THE VOICE ACTING IS BAD! SEE YOU DONT WANT THAT
You don't know what imaginary means let alone how to even spell it.
And you don't know how to use 'moving the goal post'.
I swear it's a bunch of underage using this site that just absentmindedly regurgitate what they've seen others say without knowing what they're actually talking about.
>I swear it's a bunch of underage using this site that just absentmindedly regurgitate what they've seen others say without knowing what they're actually talking about.
Like this?
Yeah that sums it up really well.
Pokemon Masters is real and people have complained about the English voice acting (especially for the Galarians) for years. You really don't know what you're talking about.
Nobody is complaining about Pokemon Masters though..
Oh so you're a literal moron. Complaining about Masters is not the same as complaining about its voice acting. And even then, you're still wrong because plenty of people complain about Masters.
This is one of the highest viewed non-official videos in the English Masters community. You just sound further out of touch the more you talk which is ironic since you accuse others of fake scenarios.
>highest viewed video crying about VA's is only 50k viewers from a literal who
Oh, so it's a non-issue. What's the big deal again?
Color me surprised you don't know the size of the Masters YT community yet attempt to dismiss it. The average viewership for actual Masters partners is like 1/10th of that, if even.
If the community is really that huge where 50k is a small fraction, it's really not as big a deal as you're making it out to be. You're starting to seem like the child here now.
Extremely monumentally ironic post. Learn to read properly. 50K isn't the small fraction, 5K and under would be the small fraction. But I think I'm wasting my time now if I have to deal with someone as slow to process clear text as you on virtually every reply. I've already made my point and you're just kicking rocks.
I am reading properly, you're just not making a clear point and are talking about 10 different things at once. Honestly it's like an actual schizo rambling. The idea I'm still entertaining it is crazy, but the board is pretty boring for the most part so I'll allow it.
The point is that you were dumb enough to call a real game imaginary. There's no more debate to be had there; you were just wrong about an objective fact, and now you're turning arrogant instead being mature and simply admitting to the mistake.
I never called the game imaginary.
The post he replied to never said that the hypothetical new games would have bad voice acting.
He implied that Game Freak has a precedent for bad voice acting, and used Pokemon Masters as a example (he could've also used the anime as an example, or the movies, or basically anything Pokemon has done that had voice acting post-4kids). You then referred to that example as an "imaginary scenario", despite the game not being imaginary. You can't say you were referring to "the hypothetical new game with bad voice acting", because he never actually mentioned that.
You're not even talking to the right people about this. Honestly this is just embarassing for you.
???
This post
Was a direct response to this post
How is that not the right person?
Holy shit your moronic LMFAO. He didn't say masters wasn't a real game he's arguing against you just automatically assuming the voice acting would be bad if it had it. That's the imaginary scenario.
He's a dumbass for thinking that as well because frick the quality of localization voice acting has gone off a cliff. We'd probably have shit like some eceleb youtuber voicing a gym leader.
>make up fake scenarios in your head
>get called out for it
>uhhh, actually.. you don't know what you're talking about
Lol, yeah ok. Whatever you say man, you're totally the only adult here.
>HERES AN IMAGINAEY SCENARIO IN WHICH THE VOICE ACTING IS BAD!
Show me the good video game voice acting.
Handsome Jack in Borderlands
Holy cringe!
I'm pretty sure anon was shitposting / being ironic. He has to be.
I didn't consider that because the voice actor is actually talented but the writing is atrocious. He is technically correct, the best you can hope for in a video game voice acting is a talented individual reading Saturday morning cartoon fanfic tier dialog.
I was asked to post good voice acting, not good writing thoughever albeit
Unfortunately there's unironically people who argue he was the best part of the game.
Weve seen how GF handles
>volume mixing controls
>joining random or friend's lobbies for raids
>approving Pokemon for current gen competitions and controlling movesets
>IVs
In each of these instances, their solutions were always contrived, accesable at times that make the effort moot, or tonedeaf in implementation. I do not doubt something like this would follow suit.
There's no such thing as good voice acting. Unless you're a child who can't read, you don't need somebody else to read for you. Granted, Pokemon is arguably in that age demographic, so I guess it wouldn't be too out of place for it to have voice acting.
>there's no good voice acting
>there's no good video games
>there's no good film performances
>there's no good art
>there's no good literature
Huh, everything ever really is bad forever
That's what annoys me about naysayers. They'll always fall behind on "Pokemon doesn't need ___ because it's never been or never will be good." They do this with everything and it makes you wonder why do they even care if they think Pokemon games aren't good anyway? It's just annoying to deal when you make a slight suggestion about something.
It's just cartoonish contrarianism, and they only come to /vp/ because Pokemon has such "reach" that it penetrated their insular bubbles and they developed a parasocial fixation on it just by coincidence of being aware of it
Maybe you should try to understand why people who've been in love with the franchise since its inception but have had to deal with over 25 years of Gamefreak's incompetence aren't the most optimistic of fans instead of sucking each other off playing armchair psychologists.
>people who've been in love with the franchise since its inception
the average chucklehead here is just some vapid consumer that's stuck with the franchise out of sunk cost because they autistically hate everything outside of it for some reason
If you were in love with the franchise, you would want it evolve. We now have cutscenes with characters moving their mouths and subtitles on screen but no voices whatsoever. The obviously logical step is to get voice acting. Even a mobile game like MastersEX has it. But instead, you just want the exact same thing that you had 25 years and any suggestion that's deviates from what you've experienced as a kid makes you throw a tantrum.
>Even a mobile game like MastersEX has it.
kek not a pro
>it's le bad!
Every time
>Every time
well yeah dipshit if you let go off an apple it'll fall to the ground every time too, doesn't make it wrong, just you stupid for thinking it should magically float instead
Black person, after you've watched Gamefreak stagnate and even devolve over the course of 2 DECADES you're not hoping they evolve, you just don't want them to frick things up even more.
>We now have cutscenes with characters moving their mouths
And the stiffest animations a multibillion dollar company can buy. The logical step would be to hire actual animators, coders who know what the frick they're doing so the artists (the only thing GF has, or at least had, going for them) can do their job without fearing the console will explode if there're too many trees on-screen. Voice acting is way down on the list of shit GF should've been doing since they went 3D.
>Black person, after you've watched Gamefreak stagnate and even devolve over the course of 2 DECADES you're not hoping they evolve, you just don't want them to frick things up even more.
Where's the devolution?
Unironically the games got better so that means they got worse because im not 5 anymore.
>the loss of Pokemon's stylistic identity throughout the years
>newer games getting buggier, less stable
>the music's drop in quality since SwSh (I'll give you one guess as to why that happened)
Shall we keep going?
You're old enough to know strawmen aren't arguments.
Neither are spongebob memes.
>Pokemon's still Pokemon
I'm not even going to read the rest, you're not worth arguing with.
I accept your concession
You didn’t have an argument to begin with
>>the loss of Pokemon's stylistic identity throughout the years
How so? Pokemon's still Pokemon.
games getting buggier, less stable
The first game was buggy as shit.
>>>the music's drop in quality since SwSh (I'll give you one guess as to why that happened)
LA and SV's music are good. What are you talking about?
Fricker you can program other games in Red its so unstable.
>he thinks silent films are the best kinds of movies
Correct, Nosferatu is the peak of cinema.
English dubs of Japanese video games never have good voice acting because the budget to pay the actors have to come from the tiny localization budget instead of the sizable game development budget. So they just hire some incompetent fricks who haven't done any acting beyond badly dubbed anime because actual good actors are too expensive.
>low budget dubbing cast
>one of the actors actually trying snd doing a good job
>the rest of the cast is just phoning it in
>the one good voice actor never dubs voices again
>HERES AN IMAGINAEY SCENARIO IN WHICH THE VOICE ACTING IS BAD
Have you ever experienced TPCi's dubbing with the anime? It's fricking horrendous, when in the last 2 decades has anything Pokemon had passable voice acting?
>something people beg for that they don't actually want and will just be a waste of time when they turn against it after the fact
This, just like 3D and open world
It's funny how many people regard the 3D era as the turning point of when Pokemon went downhill. The less you leave to the imagination, the less people are actually happy since they can't personalize the experience as much.
>It's funny how many people regard the 3D era as the turning point
Yeah like 5 shitposters here.
You have their names too?
I’ll maintain the viewpoint that GSC is the peak of aesthetics due to this phenomenon. Crystal has overworld spritework that leaves just enough to the imagination that your mind fills in gaps and imagines the world to be bigger than it is. The battle sprites are also unparalleled.
Yeah GSC I can replay tirelessly because every journey feels fresh given how much comes down to imagination instead of the same visualizations.
Sad.
It's ok if you're sad about it.
They’ll call you autistic, but the lower fidelity of GSC lends itself well to immersion and role-playing. Newer entries in the series show too much, exposing the gaps in the world. In SV, it’s kind of difficult to believe the world when you walk past a kid walking with his clone, both saying the same thing before fizzling into an alternate dimension.
>In SV, it’s kind of difficult to believe the world when you walk past a kid walking with his clone, both saying the same thing before fizzling into an alternate dimension.
How convenient!
How convenient!
and this is on a emulator too
imagine it without aa
of course these morons dont want voice acting
they dont have a creative bone in their body
no style
nothing.
I think asking for voice acting is more of a symptom of wanting there to be less dialogue in general.
Pokemon games, really once Gen 3 came out, love to drag on and on with absolutely meaningless dialogue. So when ~50% of the game is mashing through text, some people think the issue is that there's no voice with the characters, when it's actually there should just be less talking in general.
Its because the cutscenes are shot and animated like there should be voice acting, Nobody's decrying platinum not having voice acting cause there isn't a zoom in on cyrus's face flapping his jaw.
It's both of these. If GF is going to pretend like the story in a Pokemon game actually means anything and include more and more cinematics then adding voice acting is the very least they could do to make it somewhat engaging. New Snap made it workand the occasional grunts from your trainer in PLA did wonders.
people only want voice acting so that they can finally admit that they hate reading
I want voice acting because of those weird singing scenes that GF keeps adding to the game. Those scenes are terrible without it.
Either take them out or add voice acting.
Preferably in the style of Zelda where there are only a few voiced lines.
Wish they'd at least do a monster hunter/ animal crossing thing where they have voices but its just made up nonsense.
There's nothing that compare to the awkwardness of the climatic invading rose tower to utter silence despite someone rocking out.
thats the last thing i would ever care about in a pokemon game
As long as I can skip it.
Game Freak is the king of the monkey's paw, if they give us voice acting it will be worse than the anime in quality, it will be unskippable until you unlock that festure in part 2 of the DLC, the lines will be unsynched horribly with the text, or it will have the battle announcer from stadium/rbattle revolution but each turn wont end until the caster is finished with this commentary for that turn
they're forever stuck in the early-late 90s it's why they can't into modern game design. IMHO they should've stayed 2D they know they could have gotten away with it for at least another few generations.
>I NEED SHITTY ACTORS TO READ THE TEXT FOR ME!!
I will never understand the need for VAs in non-action games. Is it a zoomer thing?
Learn to read
I can make 100 scenarios in my head where voice acting is a negative and 0 where its postiive.
>spend time + effort to make the game cringier
Frick no. I know a lot of you don’t mind the typical weebshit, trash VA work that games like this get, but I think it’s extremely jarring to hear instead of simply imagining my own voices. Do you people not read books?
And asking for this when they didn’t even put effort into basic shit like dex entries is even dumber. Let’s fix the established staples before adding yet another half-assed “feature”.
You bought it anyway
>Voice acting is le bad
I bet the people that constantly spout this have terrible sounding voices themselves.
only if I can turn it off
but they hate giving you options
They'll hire japs that speak english off the streets to do these lines
God, I hate zoomers so fricking much.
>MUH VOICE ACTING, I CAN'T POSSIBLY ENJOY A GAME WITHOUT SOME GARBAGE VA HALF ASSING THE ALREADY HALF ASSED DIALOGUE!!!
>READING?! USING MY IMAGINATION?!!! WHAT IS THIS, THE 17TH CENTURY?!!!!!
I get that older generations love shitting on the new guys but god damn do zoomers and alphas deserve the hate. Complete automatons, there's not an ounce of soul in you morons.
>soul
when and why did this become the stock positive buzzword
Using it is a surefire way to trigger dumbfrick zoomies like you because you couldn't possible understand its meaning.
pretending too hard here
>because you couldn't possible understand its meaning.
That just sounds like you earnestly don't think linguistic or colloquial terms have any meaning either, as in you genuinely think it's all recursive or some other variant of self-referentiality.
I mean, good job completely misunderstanding and inadvertently proving my point, sperg.
The only good thing Scarlet and Violet had going for it was your yandere rival it's like one step forward and 10 steps back. I fear for what legends pizza will be like
voice acting is an abject waste of dev time and resources and is literally never worth having. knowing pokémon it'd probably be dub only and you wouldn't be able to turn it off, and i'd sooner drop the series altogether than deal with that trash. don't you remember when pikachu used to say its own name and how jarring and obnoxious that was, can you even imagine how unbearable it would be if every pokémon did that?
I love the ability to hear even annoying shit and I will value and treasure everything I listen to because when I'm older this natural gift GOD gave us will be greatly reduced of not taken away almost entirely.
Oh boy! I can't wait to hear Troy Baker and Tara Strong phoning it in
I know this is said a lot but 2016 completely decimated this site, it's like half the people here aren't even communicating in proper English anymore
i think you mean 2013 but i understand why you would blame 2016 - it was the second opening of the floodgates
The games don't need to have voice acting, but they should really stop directing the cutscenes as if they did. I've never thought that Final Fantasy IX was awkward without voice acting, but this shit is really uncanny:
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My thoughts exactly. It's even worse in battles where the battle just stops to play a cutscene for one text box of dialog that could've been placed elsewhere on the screen without any interruption.
This really is on par with the dudes singing despite no singing going on. Its so fricking distracting every time.
>Would it kill them to add voice actors to their games?
Yes. With how much they have to cut and how bare bones the games are already, imagine if they also added voice acting. We'd be lucky for there to even be battles left.
I hope they never do because you know it wouldn't be GOOD voiceacting. It would be the same slop as in Masters. It's always the same American voice actors who do all the anime shit. They all sound the same.
Pokémon COULD have really good voice acting, people with different kinds of accent and dialects that properly embody where the character is from, what kind of character they are etc. But no, all you'll get is generic Americans with shitty, hammy acting.
Or worse, BRITS
I'd take REAL Brits like in that one Xenoblade game over Americans doing a really really bad faked British accent. Leon's English voice in Masters makes me want to tear my ears off.
>pokemon should have voice acting!
>This feature would be nice
>ZOOMER ZOOMER ZOOMER
Millennials are embarrassing.
Just do the Zelda approach with NPCs
The dev time and money spent on voice acting would mean less Pokemon are made which proves you secondaries don't care about pokemon
nnnnNNNOOOooooooOOOOO i need to hear brock saying i hecking love jelly donuts nnbnonnoooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOooooooo
Using a made-up language like Klonoa or Monster Hunter is the most likely scenario, since it means they wouldn't have to dub it into fifty other languages. They already started using a fake language for text for that reason.
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A good voice actor will be able to convey tone just fine even when speaking gibberesh, and different characters can even have different phenomes present in their "language" to give them a different feel.
They don't want to add voice acting because npcs can't say the player's name otherwise.
The oldheads at gayfreak love to keep doing gen 1 callbacks. No voice acting being one of them. Give it 20 more years until voice acting becomes the norm for Pokemon
kys
Lol you wouldn't say this to my face I could crush your fricking skull with my bear hands. You'd just stand there silent like you should be, like I know you'd be. Good boy.
D-O-G-A-R-S DOGARS!
anon, they literally cut pokemon and features for bullshit excuses, they'll somehow frick up the VA and will need to reduce the dex to 100 Pokemon in total and run at 3FPS.
Also factor in that they would need to have VA for multiple languages.
Whatever, they're gonna cut pokemon out of the next mainline anyway. Frick it.