Now, more than ever, no. Not even getting into the whole political bullshit, the game is on its way to being wow 2.0 and retreading the same steps RS3 did. The unironically want to implement gear augments i.e. enchantments which will warp everything combat related around it and an extra thing to micromanage when you go from content to content. On top of that the devs themselves are extremely fricking scummy and have been for years - they clearly see the polling system as something that gets in the way of what they want to do and operate as such. There's still shit that have passed polling that they still haven't implemented in over a year. They keep wasting resources into PKing while not addressing the people why PKing is so dogshit because they're terrified of pissing of their content creators. Inept company
Bro it's been RS3lite for like 3+ years now and only getting worse. I was there back then. I actually kinda liked some of the pre-EOC changes bigger number make brain happy-happy. Having my account forcibly follow RS into EOC was heartbreaking because the skill system is so fricking dumb and bad especially because of RS's gauranteed lag issue.
I tried going back years ago and I kept running into "new" content that just made me resent OSRS for not being OSRS. I watch OSRS micro e-celebs and man it makes me whinge every time new shit is added.
Jagex had lightning in a bottle and no idea what it was. Every day the corpse gets a little more hollow.
Seen a concerningly large number of OSRS players announcing themselves on RS3 ironmen.
The only person I've seen go from RS3 to OSRS became a literal troony.
>I tried going back years ago and I kept running into "new" content that just made me resent OSRS for not being OSRS
nobody wants OSRS to keep being "OSRS". The game would've died 9 months in. If you want "OSRS" Gankerscape would be the server you want.
You missed the point and saw what you wanted to. I never wanted it to stay 1:1, Jagex had lightning in a battle and no idea what it was. Now they just keep throwing shit at the fan.
>They keep wasting resources into PKing while not addressing the people why PKing is so dogshit because they're terrified of pissing of their content creators
its mindboggling how much time and effort gets wasted into the wilderness, nerfing items for pvp, and introducing new items for pvp. then content creators still cry about a lack of pvp updates
the only pvp update i want is a classic lms mode. dscim/msb to dds. no protection prayers. no combo foods. thats how people played back in the day, thats what i want to do now
If you play Ironman and treat it like a singleplayer idle cookie clicker game it can be a moderately fun diversion.
But the glory days of '07 are over, if you're looking to have a fun time interacting with the community and play it like a proper MMO you're going to be disappointed. You're not a kid anymore, and neither are anyone else playing this game, it's composed entirely of jaded adults in their 30s who are doing their own thing, and bots.
I started a f2p account over the weekend after what’s been probably 17 years+ Hiatus. The guides make the grinds pretty brainless, but the dialogue of quests is entertaining. I haven’t tried membership yet it seems to be pretty overwhelming with content and the graphics are still so absolute shite
Imo just watch some YouTuber do their challenges. They condense hundreds of grinding hours into a 20 minute video and you can get the dopamine from level ups as you watch, + less clicking
Normally, I would agree, but this is RS we're talking about. The game is ALL ABOUT handling the game's sad excuse for "content" as passively as possible. The less you click, the better you're doing.
More bots would suggest the community is growing too. People don't just make bots for the sake of it, an increase in bots would imply an increase in demand due to the playerbase increasing
>i'd recommend trying an Ironman, they're more fun
I agree, which is why you should drop the "After playing for a while" nonsense and just start out with an Ironmain.
Now is the best time to get into it, community is bigger than ever and there's tons of guides etc to help
After playing for a while i'd recommend trying an Ironman, they're more fun
Believe what? Iron man require making a new account and jagex inflate their numbers with this all the time. And then you got venezuelans making dozens of alts after alts to make money off the game. The player count is way less than it "projected.
Albion Online is Runescape but enjoyable and without the troony homosexual political shit
Okay, I'm curious because I looked this up as a lark, but it looks like it checks the boxes that my friends like. tl;dr they only play League of Legends and World of Warcraft and they're looking for a new game that has competitive PVP. Reading about Albion Online, it sounds like it has MOBA-like combat with an emphasis on crafting and PVP.
Are there any red flags? Any barriers to getting into the game? Can you style on people in PVP?
I'm not talking about the game mode, I'm just asking if the combat is fundamentally similar in that you're controlling a character from a top down perspective and spacing certain abilities. I don't like League's gameplay, but they like the whole character with X abilities thing.
might as well just play rs3 at this point. not a single update ever in osrs was good, maybe the new sailing one would be good if they didn’t ruin the entire game already. at this point you might as well just play rs3, enjoy some kino quests like while guthix sleeps (kino that osrs will never get for some weird reason) and then drop it. osrs is a corpse, zoomers there will rather have new le so epic pvm pvp powercreep autismo garbage with shit graphics than add the actual good things runescape got from 2008-2010 or something, oh but they added priff, which is garbage
there was nothing good in rs from 2008-2012 and osrs is just copying all the dogshit from that time period now. nex, chaotic weapons, dragon claws, ancient curses, every single thing that ruined the game
>not a single update ever in osrs was good
Health and prayer indicators next to the minimap were good. Zoomers never had to live through the days where you had to have your skills page open 99% of the time in combat to watch your HP and prayer.
I’d recommend new world over it if you plan on playing on PC. If mobile, it’s fine. Keep in mind that unless you are questing, pvping, or doing combat that you are brainlessly watching the game happen (which I find enjoyable up to lvl70-80).
Most of these aren't so bad but changing entire old quests and removing dialogue so the npcs are more politically correct will always be fricking stupid. The fact this was all unpolled as well is total bullshit.
Combat and game mechanics have been pushed to it's limits with hard and rewarding late-game content, while still very much keeping the feel and simplicity of what RS is.
It's still just clicking and mindlessly doing chill activities, just enhanced.
What are the new developments? Last thing I heard about was the desert raid, which looked neat.
I tried to get friends into it, but they didn't bite. It was sort of an awkward situation where I hoped that they'd get to experience what the game is like before you really know what you're doing, but it's a bit slow as a result. No one got past 30 combat and we didn't buy membership.
Off topic but I try not to pollute Fortune Vee too much, tangentially related.
As an adult in his mid 30s who works full time, are there any MMOs for me? I never really had any interest in the genre, I always heard stories of people camping spawns for 18 hours and bosses that take 2 hours to kill back in the Everquest days, and it sounded more like a pain in the ass than fun. But the "shared, evolving world" concept, sounds very interesting.
>I always heard stories of people camping spawns for 18 hours and bosses that take 2 hours to kill back in the Everquest days, and it sounded more like a pain in the ass than fun
this gay shit stopped long ago in any successful MMO. A few moronic neets and boomers will jerk it off because they could replace skill with free time to burn and feel good about themselves but its dead >shared, evolving world
dont go in expecting something amazing. MMO worlds are very non-responsive, players can scarcely make a unique impact in the world, any "evolution" is pre planned by the devs and usually only reflects a tiny part of the game
A tiny number of games really let players go wild but usually these just get fricked to hell and back by players griefing or metagaming the world
>players can scarcely make a unique impact in the world
I thought like economies could crash and that modeling has been used by real economists etc(read this somewhere, EVE and Star Wars Galaxies i think)? If your game doesn't have crafters no weapons? Or am I real off base here?
Like I said it all just sounded so stressful but it kind of sounds chaotically appealing now.
Those are the exception to the rule. EVE is very hard on the player driven content side of things, which means it's a very collaborative game more often than not. The problem is that since it's so freeform and expecting collaboration, the community has essentially turned a lot of the game into a job where you're on call 24/7. Fricktons of grinding, often with little payoff in satisfaction in the end with a few big events at best. There's a ton of risk in doing anything combatitive, so most of your time will be grinding whatever you specialize in for money to fund your guild for the occasional skirmish/war. Way too much politics.
Other more traditional MMOs operate on a more skinner box system, where you grind sections of the game for shiny baubles and general mastery. Depending on the game, the shiny baubles might be easy or hard to get, have time gates, or other stupid shit in the way for more "Pride and Accomplishment" and depending which one you get, those accomplishments might be useful 2 years down the line (osrs) or completely worthless at the next expansion (WoW).
Yeah, every MMO is a long grind of some flavor, and some respect your grind more than others. I like osrs because it at least rewards achievements by letting them persist as achievements for a long time instead of just a cosmetic emblem after the next expansion drops. It's also practically a single player game with the option of multiplayer interaction for most content. It's as intense or chill as you want it to be.
>I thought like economies could crash and that modeling has been used by real economists etc(read this somewhere, EVE and Star Wars Galaxies i think)?
thats probably true but the most famous "real world case study" in any mmo was world of warcraft's corrupted blood plague
>World of Warcraft introduced the game region of Zul'Gurub on September 13. The boss of the region, Hakkar the Soulflayer, cast Corrupted Blood on raid participants; the debuff's effects expired when players defeated Hakkar. Corrupted Blood soon spread beyond Zul'Gurub as players reacted to the infection with panic, either fast traveling to heavily-populated game regions or deactivating their animal companions. When those companions were reactivated, they still carried the debuff, becoming disease vectors, while non-player characters became asymptomatic carriers. Player reactions to the Corrupted Blood pandemic varied: some provided aid by healing players or warning them of outbreak zones, while griefers intentionally contracted the debuff to spread it across World of Warcraft. After several failed hotfixes, Blizzard ended the pandemic by performing a hard reset, and a later patch prevented companions from contracting Corrupted Blood entirely.
>Although it was the result of a software bug, the Corrupted Blood incident gained attention from World of Warcraft players and disease researchers. Blizzard developed intentional in-game pandemics in two expansion sets: Wrath of the Lich King in 2008 and Shadowlands in 2020. Epidemiologists, meanwhile, took interest in how MMORPGs, unlike mathematical models, could capture individual human responses to disease outbreaks rather than generating assumptions about behavior.
That was all an overhyped pile of malarkey. The dot only lasted literal seconds before expiring. There was no 'big, widespread plague', just a bunch of brief bursts whenever someone decided to store the dot in their pet and let it out in a populated area.
I didn't think so at first, but listening to their Q&A thing where they talk about actually updating the engine to not only make sailing have better movement and water physics but to actually allow you to see the mainland in a meaningful way (like player's fishing) sounds fricking kino.
Same, when I think about the 3 new skills I basically went: "when I was doing tutorial island in 2006, which one of these would I have expected to see on the skill tab?".
Sailing hands down feels the most natural to the game, shamanism feels like it has all the same issues as warding.
It's easy anon >Sailing is the minigame skill you'll be forced to engage with to unlock new BiS items for other content >Shamanism is the item sink skill you'll be forced to engage with to make your existing BiS items ready for new content
Pick your poison
Yeah, be sure to join the /vg/ clan chat and announce that you're trans. You'll be welcomed with open arms and helpful players if you have any questions.
Started playing a year ago (started on april 1st) and have pic related hours in the game, so from the perspective of a newish player I really enjoy it since it's mostly a make your own fun game. you can tackle pretty much anything in the game the way you want, but it is a grind in some aspects, so bear that in mind. I also enjoy it since it replaced my all my cookie clicker games, and has tonnes of options to do questing, raids, mini games, etc. I tried to get into it since it released as OSRS and made a few accounts and left them, but a friend convinced me to try it again and I have been having a lot of fun since. f2p is trash so if you want to actually experience the game I would recommend getting a membership for a month and seriously give it a try (you can also buy your membership with in game gold once your account can do good money making methods or selling mats/items from boss drops). Set your own goals and experience the game how you want to, don't let people decide how you should play or min max and have fun. I only used the wiki/plugins for the big quests cause sometimes they have specific things or good gear you need to complete them, so dont worry about it getting to WoW addons levels or PoE wiki everything to understand the game. You can do that if you want to, but it's really not needed. Also dont listen to people who say there is no community, they play with entity hiders on and public chat off and are scared of interacting with anyone outside their clan.
Its like if OSRS was Diablo 2 and it kept getting constant updates, every update was a decent addition to the game and has a long lifespan where rs3/runescape is Diablo 3, everything is scaled into the trillions, you can gamble for items without fighting things and gets boring quickly.
osrs sucks. i've never been more aware of a game actively trying to waste my time than osrs. if your brain doesn't function or you lack any respect for limited time on this earth then you will probably enjoy it. otherwise, do literally anything else.
Last time I played, I joined a guild where a lot of people were maxxed out and actually hated Jagex to add more content because they didnt want to play anymore. I don't know if they were just particular autists or that had to do with the quality of content.
Most maxedgays are like that. They want their accomplishments to be snapshotted like the pokemon hall of fame, you should look at the responses mod ash gets on his tweets.
Yeah it’s pretty fun.
Tons of stuff to do, no rush to do any of it. Same with guild wars 2 but something about that game has never appealed to me. It’s cool that I can hop on for 20 minutes or whatever in between meetings or before bed and make meaningful progress towards something.
Might be hard to tell/see but I’m making a RuneScape like game with 2023 graphics. (He’s fishing right now. I can post more if you want)
Would you play it or have I wasted the last 2 years on it? It’s literally just RuneScape with 2023 graphics. Fully multiplayer so far. Even have play testers.
Personally I think the art style and shitty graphics are part of the charm of OSRS, but that's only because of nostalgia and wouldn't apply to everyone else. An updated Runescape that doesn't center around shitty tick manipulation and prayer flicking sounds pretty cool. If you added a little more depth to the combat without getting too crazy and had a nice world to explore it could turn out great.
It's probably the worst time to get into OSRS unfortunately, and it's only getting gradually worse. Game is rampant with bots, tick manipulation is factored into making content now, absolute cancer community who only cares about efficiency, reddit runs the game, zero customer support, etc,etc.
>Would you say Old school Runescape is worth getting into in 2023?
Only as a group ironman/ironman
As a standard account some skills have no significance to your account, like thieving and runecrafting.
As a Ironman each skill leads to more content and you can't buy/merchant your way to the top.
I wish Jagex would fix collection logs so that it's only added if you get the item yourself instead of purchasing the item, sure pets fill in that niche since you can't buy them BUT it should have been a blanket policy on all collections.
>I wish Jagex would fix collection logs so that it's only added if you get the item yourself instead of purchasing the item
That's how it works right now. Gotta get the drop to get the log.
Bros, my friends wanted me to join them on their group iron man, on a spare account that someone left alone. I tried it for a few weeks, but it felt strange because a lot of the basic stuff was already done, and I was told to not do certain things because that's not what they needed.
Made it seem really uninteresting to me. Should I instead start my own ironman if I wanted to try it out, or just go back to them?
Frick that. I don't play games to be told what to do by another autist. That's the fastest way to suck all the fun out of any game. Do what you like. Tell them you're going to contribute your way, don't prostitute all the resources, but find a way to contribute in your own unique way. Also, if it's a spare account, don't get attached to it, someone else owns it and can take it away at any moment.
I'd personally make my own solo ironman, the temptation to take their work and skip the early grind is too strong.
Ironmemes ruined the game from the economy to content. Everything is designed around these homosexuals. All of the bosses drop tons of supplies directly because of these whiny gays
Monsters dropping everything you need to do skilling has been a thing for a decade and a half by this point, anon. That was the entire point of Slayer and most bosses.
No, you’re about seven years too late. OSRS is irreversably pozzed now, it’s over and there will never be a real community ever again. It is neither the game we grew up with in the 2000s nor the hilariously endearing shitfest it was after its revival in the 2010s, it’s purely irredeemable fricking dogshit and Jagex can kiss my ass for ruining this game time and time again.
It did and you wouldn't be playing the game even if they never added GE. Ultima Online is just like le epic boomer runescape and you homosexuals would never touch that in a million years.
the devs have a list of shit they REALLY want in the game. most of their ideas are trash, if you let them do it they'll just make RS3 again, the shits. That's why you have to vote NO.
>MMORPG >Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game >Iron man
Ironman is god damn fun.
If there was no GE then ironman would be pretty pointless, with the old trading system it felt like everyone was an ironman/scavenger.
Most of the detractors are just salty. >make most efficient money maker >to buy more efficient money maker
makes if feel like cookie clicker shit, gp is worthless unless you sell a tbow for a motorcycle
Actually I play HC iron (rank ~4000), it feels good not being a failure.
The only fun thing non-irons really get is easy-setup team pvm. Group iron sucks, it's fricking clunky and I've never seen a team of group ironmen actually doing anything together.
OSRS is decent as an economy simulator and decent as a rewarding group pvm thing, but most of the bosses are solo instances and GWD can be done solo, people in my HC clan do it but I'm not there yet.
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Why did you reply then? Nice reddit spacing btw. Did you recently get banned from there for being a edgy moron?
>f there was no GE then ironman would be pretty pointless, with the old trading system it felt like everyone was an ironman/scavenger.
im sorry what? most of the skills would still be buyable. you would still have massive amounts of p ess, dhide, raw fish, logs, flax, and ores/bars, and boss uniques being easily tradable in w2. the single biggest difference between pre ge and post ge would be people high alching/selling their garbage slayer loot to general stores instead of the ge. 99% of items are hardlocked at their vendor/high alch price
am i the only one who remembered merch bots? i used to try to lure them to dark wizards. they would buy/sell whatever common item at set prices and would automatically list the correct amount of items/gp based on what you offered in the trade screen. without the ge these bots would only be more rampant, especially once you factor in insane runelite plugins that werent available back then
gee whilikers I sure love me some simon-says-pray-ranged-or-die and don't-stand-on-the-bad-place for my high level authentically oldschool combat experience
This is sacrilege to say and I dont think I would ever believe it but at this point, rs3 is probably better.
osrs is filled with botters i should know i ran a bot farm
the only challenging and fun content is the inferno and pvp. the first raids was awful, never tried the 2nd
go ahead and play but just know its a massive timesink and not very enjoyable.
RS3 is better for skilling, but its combat is still a buggy mess that Jagex has convinced the players to be a feature. As weird as OSRS's combat is, it actually works.
>trading post could've been converted to an auction house system >jagex instead sentences us to invisible buy order hell for a second time
fricking brits
>play this game since release >maxed normie and almost maxed ironman >only social interaction i ever had was people asking me how to do shit instead of using the wiki
but all in all, runescape is BY FAR the best game for when you want to click on stuff while doing or watching other things. just don't expect anything else.
No, if you want community, it's mostly gone.
If you want to constantly feel a high, play other games.
Quests are the only reason to play this game now
Quests are fricking terrible. Actually the worst quest design in any mmo ever. Designed by autistic children. Literally.
>Quests are fricking terrible
They genuinely might be the best designed quests in any MMO ever.
Yes but quests are the worst part of this game
>quests are the worst part of this game
I hate you
Nah, they've destroyed legacy content for them. Just download 2009 scape or openrsc and play offline.
Depends if you think walking around the map and being out of stamina for 90% of the game is fun.
Now, more than ever, no. Not even getting into the whole political bullshit, the game is on its way to being wow 2.0 and retreading the same steps RS3 did. The unironically want to implement gear augments i.e. enchantments which will warp everything combat related around it and an extra thing to micromanage when you go from content to content. On top of that the devs themselves are extremely fricking scummy and have been for years - they clearly see the polling system as something that gets in the way of what they want to do and operate as such. There's still shit that have passed polling that they still haven't implemented in over a year. They keep wasting resources into PKing while not addressing the people why PKing is so dogshit because they're terrified of pissing of their content creators. Inept company
It's not very "oldschool" anymore.
Bro it's been RS3lite for like 3+ years now and only getting worse. I was there back then. I actually kinda liked some of the pre-EOC changes bigger number make brain happy-happy. Having my account forcibly follow RS into EOC was heartbreaking because the skill system is so fricking dumb and bad especially because of RS's gauranteed lag issue.
I tried going back years ago and I kept running into "new" content that just made me resent OSRS for not being OSRS. I watch OSRS micro e-celebs and man it makes me whinge every time new shit is added.
Jagex had lightning in a bottle and no idea what it was. Every day the corpse gets a little more hollow.
Seen a concerningly large number of OSRS players announcing themselves on RS3 ironmen.
The only person I've seen go from RS3 to OSRS became a literal troony.
>I tried going back years ago and I kept running into "new" content that just made me resent OSRS for not being OSRS
nobody wants OSRS to keep being "OSRS". The game would've died 9 months in. If you want "OSRS" Gankerscape would be the server you want.
You missed the point and saw what you wanted to. I never wanted it to stay 1:1, Jagex had lightning in a battle and no idea what it was. Now they just keep throwing shit at the fan.
>They keep wasting resources into PKing while not addressing the people why PKing is so dogshit because they're terrified of pissing of their content creators
its mindboggling how much time and effort gets wasted into the wilderness, nerfing items for pvp, and introducing new items for pvp. then content creators still cry about a lack of pvp updates
the only pvp update i want is a classic lms mode. dscim/msb to dds. no protection prayers. no combo foods. thats how people played back in the day, thats what i want to do now
>you want to click on people and hope you get good rng
Wow really intense pvp
>plays osrs
>complains about clicking on things and hoping for good rng
you should play a different game lol
If you play Ironman and treat it like a singleplayer idle cookie clicker game it can be a moderately fun diversion.
But the glory days of '07 are over, if you're looking to have a fun time interacting with the community and play it like a proper MMO you're going to be disappointed. You're not a kid anymore, and neither are anyone else playing this game, it's composed entirely of jaded adults in their 30s who are doing their own thing, and bots.
I started a f2p account over the weekend after what’s been probably 17 years+ Hiatus. The guides make the grinds pretty brainless, but the dialogue of quests is entertaining. I haven’t tried membership yet it seems to be pretty overwhelming with content and the graphics are still so absolute shite
game's going through a golden age right now, lots of refreshing and high quality content recently and on the way with really big stuff planned
>paid shill
read the posts, and read yours. low iq spastic.
lol no this game is progressively getting worse and it's already on the edge of turning into "rs3 2"
Definitely, the playerbase is skyrocketing right now and the games getting a lot more attention.
Most of the content they add is a hit rather than a miss, and most of the grandmaster quests they added were great.
have a nice day braindamaged soulless cancer zoomie you dont even have any self awareness
You seem like a happy, well adjusted person
NTA but why get so upset? You surely have better things to be doing, right anon?
>thinking zoomers play runescape
Yes, It's the only "real" MMO that's still alive.
Don't listen to the inbred morons ITT. OSRS is easily in a golden age and is constantly getting updated.
Imo just watch some YouTuber do their challenges. They condense hundreds of grinding hours into a 20 minute video and you can get the dopamine from level ups as you watch, + less clicking
zoomer mindset
Are you one of those people that watches a youtube video and suddenly you've played the game?
Normally, I would agree, but this is RS we're talking about. The game is ALL ABOUT handling the game's sad excuse for "content" as passively as possible. The less you click, the better you're doing.
this, I'm not clicking some shit for 1000 hours to get ONE max skill.
Any suggestions for other games that are like runescape?
I tried out genfanad and it's ok but kind of needs some work
>garbage graphics
>garbage gameplay
no
No, play 2009scape
Now is the best time to get into it, community is bigger than ever and there's tons of guides etc to help
After playing for a while i'd recommend trying an Ironman, they're more fun
Community or community (bots)?
More bots would suggest the community is growing too. People don't just make bots for the sake of it, an increase in bots would imply an increase in demand due to the playerbase increasing
>BOTS ARE ACTUALLY GOOD!!!
fanboyism at its best
I'm sorry you are unable to follow basic lines of logic, enjoy working in Mcdonalds
oh you're mad
nta, but if your trying to bait, your doing a very bad job of it.
>NTA
Go back zoomer
I don't think you know what that acronym means.
have a nice day reddit slime good god you will never fit in here why do you even bother
Are you going to confirm you know what it means or are you going to continue projecting your own tourist behavior?
>covid zoomer tourist complaining about tourist behavior
LOL die of cancer irl
Oh... he doesn't know 🙁 bummer buddy. Maybe a couple more summers of lurking
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with this same logic, call of duty is the best franchise ever made
>i'd recommend trying an Ironman, they're more fun
I agree, which is why you should drop the "After playing for a while" nonsense and just start out with an Ironmain.
I feel like starting with an ironman after being away for a long time would be incredibly difficult as you'd lack a ton of game knowledge
fun fact but you can actually play games without knowledge of them beforehand zoomzoom
not ironman
try thinking about the context next time
>MMOpopulation
bullshit made-up statistics
I believe it. For the past 8 or so years osrs hovered around 55 - 70k players. Now it's above 100k average
Believe what? Iron man require making a new account and jagex inflate their numbers with this all the time. And then you got venezuelans making dozens of alts after alts to make money off the game. The player count is way less than it "projected.
As the population grows so does the population of morons
>oldschool runescape
>is actually newschool
I'd play this game if it was free
Depends on alot, I enjoy the AFK aspect with engaging content sprinkled in when I play.
That being said, the new skills that were just proposed are gonna change the game forever, outside of sailing. So its bittersweet right now.
Literally the only interaction you get is pvp and pvp is just autism gear/prayer flicking and double eating.
PvP is and has always been the worst part about Runescape
I play my Main like an Ironman so I don't have to subject myself to farming 90+ hours for an inventory of brews and the pain of dupe items.
If you wanna play a comfy point and click adventure with light MMO elements
no
You are better off playing Albion Online. It's what a RuneScape sequel should have been.
Yes I too watched the Josh Strife video.
Thanks, me too.
Been playing it for like two years.
Okay, I'm curious because I looked this up as a lark, but it looks like it checks the boxes that my friends like. tl;dr they only play League of Legends and World of Warcraft and they're looking for a new game that has competitive PVP. Reading about Albion Online, it sounds like it has MOBA-like combat with an emphasis on crafting and PVP.
Are there any red flags? Any barriers to getting into the game? Can you style on people in PVP?
What the frick?
No, there is no weird defend the Nexus shit in Albion.
I'm not talking about the game mode, I'm just asking if the combat is fundamentally similar in that you're controlling a character from a top down perspective and spacing certain abilities. I don't like League's gameplay, but they like the whole character with X abilities thing.
I have no idea what you are saying.
The combat in Albion is basically the console version of Diablo 3.
Okay, that's enough for me.
Albion Online is Runescape but enjoyable and without the troony homosexual political shit
Don't you need a guild to do anyhting in that game?
I hate people no thanks
dunno, I've been playing solo and I'm having a nice time
Osrs is very Solo friendly, no guild required
when i played it was a definate pay to win paywall where you couldnt do anything without dropping money
Been considering getting back into Albion because of swol benji I like to pvp I just dont want to lose everything. Hmm maybe ill log on again
no. the game and its community bares no resemblance to the game it once was.
might as well just play rs3 at this point. not a single update ever in osrs was good, maybe the new sailing one would be good if they didn’t ruin the entire game already. at this point you might as well just play rs3, enjoy some kino quests like while guthix sleeps (kino that osrs will never get for some weird reason) and then drop it. osrs is a corpse, zoomers there will rather have new le so epic pvm pvp powercreep autismo garbage with shit graphics than add the actual good things runescape got from 2008-2010 or something, oh but they added priff, which is garbage
there was nothing good in rs from 2008-2012 and osrs is just copying all the dogshit from that time period now. nex, chaotic weapons, dragon claws, ancient curses, every single thing that ruined the game
>not a single update ever in osrs was good
Health and prayer indicators next to the minimap were good. Zoomers never had to live through the days where you had to have your skills page open 99% of the time in combat to watch your HP and prayer.
I’d recommend new world over it if you plan on playing on PC. If mobile, it’s fine. Keep in mind that unless you are questing, pvping, or doing combat that you are brainlessly watching the game happen (which I find enjoyable up to lvl70-80).
Yes currently the best the game has ever been
if you want to support this
Who cares
ywnbaw
Definitely not seething.
Most of these aren't so bad but changing entire old quests and removing dialogue so the npcs are more politically correct will always be fricking stupid. The fact this was all unpolled as well is total bullshit.
None of this matters or affects the game at all. Go outside.
completely new player? no. RS3 is better.
Depends on the endgame you want.
>PVP
OSRS
>PVE/PVM
RS3
OSRS is literally the best it's ever been right now, game-wise.
Find yourself a CC if you want player interaction.
People keep saying it's the best it's ever been, but WHY?
Combat and game mechanics have been pushed to it's limits with hard and rewarding late-game content, while still very much keeping the feel and simplicity of what RS is.
It's still just clicking and mindlessly doing chill activities, just enhanced.
What are the new developments? Last thing I heard about was the desert raid, which looked neat.
I tried to get friends into it, but they didn't bite. It was sort of an awkward situation where I hoped that they'd get to experience what the game is like before you really know what you're doing, but it's a bit slow as a result. No one got past 30 combat and we didn't buy membership.
Off topic but I try not to pollute Fortune Vee too much, tangentially related.
As an adult in his mid 30s who works full time, are there any MMOs for me? I never really had any interest in the genre, I always heard stories of people camping spawns for 18 hours and bosses that take 2 hours to kill back in the Everquest days, and it sounded more like a pain in the ass than fun. But the "shared, evolving world" concept, sounds very interesting.
>I always heard stories of people camping spawns for 18 hours and bosses that take 2 hours to kill back in the Everquest days, and it sounded more like a pain in the ass than fun
this gay shit stopped long ago in any successful MMO. A few moronic neets and boomers will jerk it off because they could replace skill with free time to burn and feel good about themselves but its dead
>shared, evolving world
dont go in expecting something amazing. MMO worlds are very non-responsive, players can scarcely make a unique impact in the world, any "evolution" is pre planned by the devs and usually only reflects a tiny part of the game
A tiny number of games really let players go wild but usually these just get fricked to hell and back by players griefing or metagaming the world
>players can scarcely make a unique impact in the world
I thought like economies could crash and that modeling has been used by real economists etc(read this somewhere, EVE and Star Wars Galaxies i think)? If your game doesn't have crafters no weapons? Or am I real off base here?
Like I said it all just sounded so stressful but it kind of sounds chaotically appealing now.
Those are the exception to the rule. EVE is very hard on the player driven content side of things, which means it's a very collaborative game more often than not. The problem is that since it's so freeform and expecting collaboration, the community has essentially turned a lot of the game into a job where you're on call 24/7. Fricktons of grinding, often with little payoff in satisfaction in the end with a few big events at best. There's a ton of risk in doing anything combatitive, so most of your time will be grinding whatever you specialize in for money to fund your guild for the occasional skirmish/war. Way too much politics.
Other more traditional MMOs operate on a more skinner box system, where you grind sections of the game for shiny baubles and general mastery. Depending on the game, the shiny baubles might be easy or hard to get, have time gates, or other stupid shit in the way for more "Pride and Accomplishment" and depending which one you get, those accomplishments might be useful 2 years down the line (osrs) or completely worthless at the next expansion (WoW).
Damm that does sound like shit after all thanks for the heads up.
Yeah, every MMO is a long grind of some flavor, and some respect your grind more than others. I like osrs because it at least rewards achievements by letting them persist as achievements for a long time instead of just a cosmetic emblem after the next expansion drops. It's also practically a single player game with the option of multiplayer interaction for most content. It's as intense or chill as you want it to be.
>I thought like economies could crash and that modeling has been used by real economists etc(read this somewhere, EVE and Star Wars Galaxies i think)?
thats probably true but the most famous "real world case study" in any mmo was world of warcraft's corrupted blood plague
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupted_Blood_incident
>World of Warcraft introduced the game region of Zul'Gurub on September 13. The boss of the region, Hakkar the Soulflayer, cast Corrupted Blood on raid participants; the debuff's effects expired when players defeated Hakkar. Corrupted Blood soon spread beyond Zul'Gurub as players reacted to the infection with panic, either fast traveling to heavily-populated game regions or deactivating their animal companions. When those companions were reactivated, they still carried the debuff, becoming disease vectors, while non-player characters became asymptomatic carriers. Player reactions to the Corrupted Blood pandemic varied: some provided aid by healing players or warning them of outbreak zones, while griefers intentionally contracted the debuff to spread it across World of Warcraft. After several failed hotfixes, Blizzard ended the pandemic by performing a hard reset, and a later patch prevented companions from contracting Corrupted Blood entirely.
>Although it was the result of a software bug, the Corrupted Blood incident gained attention from World of Warcraft players and disease researchers. Blizzard developed intentional in-game pandemics in two expansion sets: Wrath of the Lich King in 2008 and Shadowlands in 2020. Epidemiologists, meanwhile, took interest in how MMORPGs, unlike mathematical models, could capture individual human responses to disease outbreaks rather than generating assumptions about behavior.
That was all an overhyped pile of malarkey. The dot only lasted literal seconds before expiring. There was no 'big, widespread plague', just a bunch of brief bursts whenever someone decided to store the dot in their pet and let it out in a populated area.
Nobody plays that game, it's 80% bots.
I say that sailing is the best choice of the new skills.
I didn't think so at first, but listening to their Q&A thing where they talk about actually updating the engine to not only make sailing have better movement and water physics but to actually allow you to see the mainland in a meaningful way (like player's fishing) sounds fricking kino.
Same, when I think about the 3 new skills I basically went: "when I was doing tutorial island in 2006, which one of these would I have expected to see on the skill tab?".
Sailing hands down feels the most natural to the game, shamanism feels like it has all the same issues as warding.
>shamanism feels like it has all the same issues as warding
>issues as warding
lmao
This, but only because it won't destabilize the game like the other skills
I'm torn between Sailing and Shamanism, mainly because Shamanism has a lot of potential interplay with existing skills, especially Hunter
It's easy anon
>Sailing is the minigame skill you'll be forced to engage with to unlock new BiS items for other content
>Shamanism is the item sink skill you'll be forced to engage with to make your existing BiS items ready for new content
Pick your poison
don't vote for new skill
new skill is a mistake
play rs3 instead to glimpse that dark future
Yes, because Easter is around the corner and that means my OSRS girl can get bunny ears
Yeah, be sure to join the /vg/ clan chat and announce that you're trans. You'll be welcomed with open arms and helpful players if you have any questions.
Started playing a year ago (started on april 1st) and have pic related hours in the game, so from the perspective of a newish player I really enjoy it since it's mostly a make your own fun game. you can tackle pretty much anything in the game the way you want, but it is a grind in some aspects, so bear that in mind. I also enjoy it since it replaced my all my cookie clicker games, and has tonnes of options to do questing, raids, mini games, etc. I tried to get into it since it released as OSRS and made a few accounts and left them, but a friend convinced me to try it again and I have been having a lot of fun since. f2p is trash so if you want to actually experience the game I would recommend getting a membership for a month and seriously give it a try (you can also buy your membership with in game gold once your account can do good money making methods or selling mats/items from boss drops). Set your own goals and experience the game how you want to, don't let people decide how you should play or min max and have fun. I only used the wiki/plugins for the big quests cause sometimes they have specific things or good gear you need to complete them, so dont worry about it getting to WoW addons levels or PoE wiki everything to understand the game. You can do that if you want to, but it's really not needed. Also dont listen to people who say there is no community, they play with entity hiders on and public chat off and are scared of interacting with anyone outside their clan.
I enjoy playing it. Dunno why everyone on Ganker is so negative.
Why would I choose to play OSRS over the other one?
MTX
>"but rs3 ironmeme is better!"
If you have to play a forced single player mode in an MMO you've fricked up somewhere.
They're completely different games
That doesn't answer my question.
Not him but one looks like wow and the combat tries to emulate wow. Its also has gachas. OSRS has none of that
Its like if OSRS was Diablo 2 and it kept getting constant updates, every update was a decent addition to the game and has a long lifespan where rs3/runescape is Diablo 3, everything is scaled into the trillions, you can gamble for items without fighting things and gets boring quickly.
If you like playing with bots, might as well play lost ark. Has better coombait
If you like trannies, sure
No. It's been troonyfied for twitch and its audience
God no
>nonexistent community to do anything with
>awful rates for skilling
>everything is based around endgame
>run energy drains like sand through a sifter
osrs sucks. i've never been more aware of a game actively trying to waste my time than osrs. if your brain doesn't function or you lack any respect for limited time on this earth then you will probably enjoy it. otherwise, do literally anything else.
Last time I played, I joined a guild where a lot of people were maxxed out and actually hated Jagex to add more content because they didnt want to play anymore. I don't know if they were just particular autists or that had to do with the quality of content.
Most maxedgays are like that. They want their accomplishments to be snapshotted like the pokemon hall of fame, you should look at the responses mod ash gets on his tweets.
You basically need max combat if you want to think about doing wildy pvp, that's a big downside tbh.
Yeah it’s pretty fun.
Tons of stuff to do, no rush to do any of it. Same with guild wars 2 but something about that game has never appealed to me. It’s cool that I can hop on for 20 minutes or whatever in between meetings or before bed and make meaningful progress towards something.
>causes intense seething and rage
Might be hard to tell/see but I’m making a RuneScape like game with 2023 graphics. (He’s fishing right now. I can post more if you want)
Would you play it or have I wasted the last 2 years on it? It’s literally just RuneScape with 2023 graphics. Fully multiplayer so far. Even have play testers.
Yes.
How can I test this?
Currently already have ~20 play testers. Probably gonna use more when it comes time to stress testing. I can post here when the time comes.
Personally I think the art style and shitty graphics are part of the charm of OSRS, but that's only because of nostalgia and wouldn't apply to everyone else. An updated Runescape that doesn't center around shitty tick manipulation and prayer flicking sounds pretty cool. If you added a little more depth to the combat without getting too crazy and had a nice world to explore it could turn out great.
It's probably the worst time to get into OSRS unfortunately, and it's only getting gradually worse. Game is rampant with bots, tick manipulation is factored into making content now, absolute cancer community who only cares about efficiency, reddit runs the game, zero customer support, etc,etc.
>Would you say Old school Runescape is worth getting into in 2023?
Only as a group ironman/ironman
As a standard account some skills have no significance to your account, like thieving and runecrafting.
As a Ironman each skill leads to more content and you can't buy/merchant your way to the top.
I wish Jagex would fix collection logs so that it's only added if you get the item yourself instead of purchasing the item, sure pets fill in that niche since you can't buy them BUT it should have been a blanket policy on all collections.
>I wish Jagex would fix collection logs so that it's only added if you get the item yourself instead of purchasing the item
That's how it works right now. Gotta get the drop to get the log.
i was banned within an hour for having a character named 'trump'. so no.
that's gay
Bros, my friends wanted me to join them on their group iron man, on a spare account that someone left alone. I tried it for a few weeks, but it felt strange because a lot of the basic stuff was already done, and I was told to not do certain things because that's not what they needed.
Made it seem really uninteresting to me. Should I instead start my own ironman if I wanted to try it out, or just go back to them?
Frick that. I don't play games to be told what to do by another autist. That's the fastest way to suck all the fun out of any game. Do what you like. Tell them you're going to contribute your way, don't prostitute all the resources, but find a way to contribute in your own unique way. Also, if it's a spare account, don't get attached to it, someone else owns it and can take it away at any moment.
I'd personally make my own solo ironman, the temptation to take their work and skip the early grind is too strong.
Ironmemes ruined the game from the economy to content. Everything is designed around these homosexuals. All of the bosses drop tons of supplies directly because of these whiny gays
Monsters dropping everything you need to do skilling has been a thing for a decade and a half by this point, anon. That was the entire point of Slayer and most bosses.
>a decade
almost, zulrah was 2015
>and a half
no lol. compare gwd droptable to zulrah
No, you’re about seven years too late. OSRS is irreversably pozzed now, it’s over and there will never be a real community ever again. It is neither the game we grew up with in the 2000s nor the hilariously endearing shitfest it was after its revival in the 2010s, it’s purely irredeemable fricking dogshit and Jagex can kiss my ass for ruining this game time and time again.
>let's bring back the old version of runescape
>let's start re-adding the gay stuff from the new version like the grand exchange
don't bother, newbies will tell you turning it into RS3 lite saved the game
It did and you wouldn't be playing the game even if they never added GE. Ultima Online is just like le epic boomer runescape and you homosexuals would never touch that in a million years.
the devs have a list of shit they REALLY want in the game. most of their ideas are trash, if you let them do it they'll just make RS3 again, the shits. That's why you have to vote NO.
Ironman is god damn fun.
If there was no GE then ironman would be pretty pointless, with the old trading system it felt like everyone was an ironman/scavenger.
Most of the detractors are just salty.
>make most efficient money maker
>to buy more efficient money maker
makes if feel like cookie clicker shit, gp is worthless unless you sell a tbow for a motorcycle
>Ironman is god damn fun
make a real criticism
explain why the optional alternate game mode wouldn't be fun
>just buying shit on the GE is fun
nah
If I need to argue the point with you you're already beyond hope
Actually I play HC iron (rank ~4000), it feels good not being a failure.
The only fun thing non-irons really get is easy-setup team pvm. Group iron sucks, it's fricking clunky and I've never seen a team of group ironmen actually doing anything together.
OSRS is decent as an economy simulator and decent as a rewarding group pvm thing, but most of the bosses are solo instances and GWD can be done solo, people in my HC clan do it but I'm not there yet.
Nobody cares.
Why did you reply then? Nice reddit spacing btw. Did you recently get banned from there for being a edgy moron?
>f there was no GE then ironman would be pretty pointless, with the old trading system it felt like everyone was an ironman/scavenger.
im sorry what? most of the skills would still be buyable. you would still have massive amounts of p ess, dhide, raw fish, logs, flax, and ores/bars, and boss uniques being easily tradable in w2. the single biggest difference between pre ge and post ge would be people high alching/selling their garbage slayer loot to general stores instead of the ge. 99% of items are hardlocked at their vendor/high alch price
am i the only one who remembered merch bots? i used to try to lure them to dark wizards. they would buy/sell whatever common item at set prices and would automatically list the correct amount of items/gp based on what you offered in the trade screen. without the ge these bots would only be more rampant, especially once you factor in insane runelite plugins that werent available back then
gee whilikers I sure love me some simon-says-pray-ranged-or-die and don't-stand-on-the-bad-place for my high level authentically oldschool combat experience
Runescape classic or go home.
>MMORPG
>Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game
>Iron man
This is sacrilege to say and I dont think I would ever believe it but at this point, rs3 is probably better.
osrs is filled with botters i should know i ran a bot farm
the only challenging and fun content is the inferno and pvp. the first raids was awful, never tried the 2nd
go ahead and play but just know its a massive timesink and not very enjoyable.
RS3 is better for skilling, but its combat is still a buggy mess that Jagex has convinced the players to be a feature. As weird as OSRS's combat is, it actually works.
Just play melvor idle
>trading post could've been converted to an auction house system
>jagex instead sentences us to invisible buy order hell for a second time
fricking brits
>play this game since release
>maxed normie and almost maxed ironman
>only social interaction i ever had was people asking me how to do shit instead of using the wiki
but all in all, runescape is BY FAR the best game for when you want to click on stuff while doing or watching other things. just don't expect anything else.