What happened to Global and Trade chat?
How many of you would replace linear gear grinds with material-repairs durability? How about full loot on PvP servers?
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What happened to Global and Trade chat?
How many of you would replace linear gear grinds with material-repairs durability? How about full loot on PvP servers?
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>material-repairs durability
I hate this shit, don't make me pay fricking rent on my items
Realism is important; "amounts of activities that lead to status" is roles and worldbuilding.
Define what to do.
oh sorry I didn't realize this was a nutriments thread
Fantasy-meets-reality "all things are possible" defines economy as near, if not the, largest cohesive aspect of variety and depth. Characters utilizing the world and others is creative use of resources and rapport to feel bliss. It's miraculous.
didn't read
just want to frick a bloodelf
What the frick are you trying to say?
Post more blood elf bawdS.
took a 2 year break, tried it and played for maybe 2 hours, was shit
feels good im free
Haven't felt the urge to play retail since Shadowlands launch, which I wish I could get a refund on.
Tried playing a private server a couple times since then, can't seem to stick with it, haven't played in months.
Think I'm finally free.
I will miss pandas and goblin girls though.
panda women belong to me, sorry anon
>You can't make a Group Finder listing without an authenticator.
Lmao. Worse than Valve's "you need a phone number associated to your steam account to play ranked" bullshit.
no and no
What's your alternative?
coom
[Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of The Windseeker]
>Can only upgrade Honor gear past 3/7 by completing 4 story lines and joining a covenant.
>people want to play all day
>waaaaaaaaah what do you mean I have to do things
have a nice day stupid fricking casual homosexual.
busywork that's not challenging, rewarding or fun is not "playing"
But collecting materials to replace breaking gear somehow is. have a nice day, you are too fricking stupid to be stealing my air.
Learn to read, Schizo-kun
Learn what the thread is about. Lurk moar.
so if they made questing hard you'd be ok with the grinds?
>busywork that's not challenging, rewarding or fun
That's 99% of video games, though.
[Dirge]
>If you haven’t been to Zereth Mortis before, you’ll need to reach level 60 and complete 2 chapters in both your covenant campaign and the Chains of Domination storyline.
cute elf
Why can't belves be real...
because our world is deeply flawed and existence is unjust
>full loot pvp
How to guarantee that pvp dies faster than it already has. No one wants that.
Few to none world PvP, and there's not much incentive to do it anyway. The world is the same; character status is permanent; PvE isn't affected; npcs aren't dynamic; it's still impossible to control resources and zones. People can simply play MOBAs if they want PvP, and it starts everybody at approximate fairness.
You want to gatekeep content, but you're not providing anywhere near the activity density that would keep characters relevant, betting (a whole science: Game Theory), grouping, providing, and strategizing. Linear gameplay isn't storyworthy.
Mandatory quests aren't varied or deep content. It's a niche playstyle because it's basically singleplayer, some of the most shallow gameplay in the industry, and not relevant to other options except for gathering a few materials on the way (which are barely used).
Define variety and depth.
Rate "creativity", "immersiveness", and "status" on a 1-10.
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Fantasy-meets-reality "all things are possible" defines economy as near, if not the, largest cohesive aspect of variety and depth. Characters utilizing the world and others is creative use of resources and rapport to feel bliss. It's miraculous.
PS: Your posts are too low status for ad hominems.
No.
>No.
So it doesn't matter that it's easy, you just don't want to play a video game.
It does matter that it's easy. You specified "OK with the grinds", which is still too repetitive and linear.
>which is still too repetitive and linear.
Not as repetitive as wiping 500 times on the same boss, obviously.
It's non-obvious what you're critiquing. Does it include instancing?
>wiping 500 times on the same boss
Non-consecutively, right?
I miss WoW.
I miss being young.
I miss the freedom.
I hate current WoW.
>>What happened to Global and Trade chat?
No one wants to say anything anymore that might offend some deranged troony, or some blue-haired Californian c**t. When Blizzard decided that they can ban you for whatever they damn well please because people nowadays literally cannot handle banter or dialogue, then that kills any interest people have in any amount of actual discussion. Wouldn't want to accidentally step on someone's foot who is extremely easily offended and will get their friends to mass report you, now would you? They literally forced some bullshit "contract" that you cannot disagree with or it would exit you out of the game just to try and force some fake positivity bullshit that you just know doesn't apply to anyone else other than themselves, and what they deem a bannable offense.
>people nowadays literally cannot handle banter or dialogue
i banter in game all the time. if you find yourself getting banned a lot from places you should probably just work on being less socially moronic.
Doesn't address the actual problem. Go away with your strawman.
what actual problem? the fact that you're too much of a spastic to communicate with other people without calling them Black folk?
Obsessed.
what?
He didn't create a strawman.
It only starts local chat on, and finding others is obscure (requires searching the internet). Apparently the only General or Trade chats are zoned, and Looking for Group is null. https://eu.battle.net/support/en/article/9738.
>people nowadays literally cannot handle banter or dialogue
People report, which is only relevant because Blizzard actually mutes or bans. If a studio wants quality chat, all they have to do is make filters. People can handle chat fine; there should be ways to exclude words because the game doesn't have an age requirement, and roleplaying should be simple and easy.
>there should be ways to exclude words
WoW has a mature language filter turned on by default when you install the game.
It doesn't exclude politics or gold selling, and there's not a manual way to specify.
Report gold sellers. Unless they're cropping up with multiple alts per hour they'll be ignored when you report them. If someone is trying to spell out a URL with characters on the ground use one of those toys that forces them to emote.
My point was that players can take care of themselves, especially when given the tools; banning is stupid, and behavior is easily moderated.
>banning is stupid
banning is great. no one wants to play the game with racist incels.
They shouldn't be excluded from gameplay because they said something for which everybody would forgive them.
>They shouldn't be excluded from gameplay
Of course they should.
>everybody would forgive them
lmao. Go outside sometime.
>Of course they should.
>lmao. Go outside sometime.
Not an argument.
They paid for the game.
>They paid for the game.
They also signed the TOS. You don't get free reign to do anything once you pay someone for a service you utter moron. I can't go to a spa and start yelling Black person during my massage even if I already paid for it.
You people are so social moronic it's stunning.
>They also signed the TOS.
So, mute them.
>They paid for the game.
poor babies. guess they shouldn't have broken the rules and gotten banned then lmao.
You're not contributing to the discussion.
>Full loot wouldn't work on WoW.
It would; it's as repeatable as gear is accessible and fun.
>WoW needs a complete rework to accomodate proper world PvP.
No it doesn't; it's as simple as durability and rewards.
>Factions need to go.
Yes; let players group.
>Death should have a penalty higher than 2 gold and 1 minute.
MV=PQ.
Strategy is where WoW would have to be updated a lot; resources are too sporadic; flying mounts should be turned off on PvP servers; and travel between zones should be edited; also, respawns should be reduced to specific locations to accomodate full loot; remove hearthstones.
>You're not contributing to the discussion.
it's entirely relevant to the discussion, despite how stupid you are. if you don't agree with a game's rules, why would you buy it in the first place? it's an entirely self-imposed problem.
Rules aren't listed on a box purchase.
People want to play the game because other people are playing it, not because the studio has some touted authority on what's moral.
>Rules aren't listed on a box purchase.
WoW nor its expansions have been sold through box purchase in years. The base game doesn't even cost money anymore, aside from the sub fee, which is also paid for online. The ToS is outlined very explicitly on the same website you sub to the game on. The website asks you to agree to the ToS at every payment step.
>People want to play the game because other people are playing it
The rules exist irrespective of why you chose to play the game.
> not because the studio has some touted authority on what's moral.
It's not about morality, it's about the majority of players not wanting to deal with spergs.
>pretending to not know you'll get banned if you scream Black person at people
are incels really this braindead?
>It would; it's as repeatable as gear is accessible and fun.
Gear is pretty much entirely found in instanced content. People would have no reason to leave the safe spot with it.
>No it doesn't; it's as simple as durability and rewards.
Repair costs are simply not enough of a risk (specially since pvp never took durability). And it has always been more about feeling bored out of your fricking mind being forced to run back to your corpse or do literally nothing for 10 minutes for a stupid debuff to go away.
>Yes; let players group.
Not even about just grouping. Being unable to do something about someone from your faction greatly limits what is possible with PvP.
>Gear is pretty much entirely found in instanced content. People would have no reason to leave the safe spot with it.
Crafting should have purpose. Only bet what you would be OK with losing.
>Repair costs are simply not enough of a risk (specially since pvp never took durability).
I meant material repairs (the topic).
>WoW nor its expansions have been sold through box purchase in years.
Rules have been updated.
>The base game doesn't even cost money anymore
It's a trial to level 20.
>TOS
Isn't a reason to have garbage rules.
>The rules exist irrespective of why you chose to play the game.
That doesn't make it right.
>It's not about morality, it's about the majority of players not wanting to deal with spergs.
It is; why should a company be able to gatekeep what they can moderate?
See above.
>Rules have been updated.
Yes, so if you don't want to play the new expansion with the updated rules, you would choose to not buy the new expansion.
>It's a trial to level 20.
This isn't the case, you can level to 50 with the base game and a sub. You don't need to purchase the game until you reach the current expansion, at which point you buy the expansion on a website that spoonfeeds you the ToS.
>Isn't a reason to have garbage rules.
The rules aren't garbage, they're perfectly reasonable for people with even the most basic social skills and self-control.
>It is
It isn't, obviously.
>why should a company be able to gatekeep what they can moderate?
Businesses can deny you service. For example, a store can kick you out for not wearing a shirt. This isn't complicated, it's normal daily life shit that everyone knows.
>The rules aren't garbage, they're perfectly reasonable for people with even the most basic social skills and self-control.
You avoided the question.
>Businesses can deny you service. For example, a store can kick you out for not wearing a shirt. This isn't complicated, it's normal daily life shit that everyone knows.
You're not paying to be in a store.
>You're not paying to be in a store.
yes i fricking am. i pay $20 cover when i go to the club, and you can believe they'll kick me out if i try to "banter" with the cute bartenders lmao. you have zero life experience and it's incredibly pathetic.
You can chat with a bartender within reason. That's getting beyond the topic.
Video game chats aren't proximal; you can mute.
>You can chat with a bartender within reason.
Depends on the bar, but many don't let you talk to them other than for ordering a drink. You certainly can't scream Black person at them, like you want to.
>you can mute.
Yeah, and then they'll continue being an ongoing sperg to every single person they interact with in game. Surely you see the issue there.
>Yeah, and then they'll continue being an ongoing sperg to every single person they interact with in game. Surely you see the issue there.
You're appealing to extremes.
>You're appealing to extremes.
No, believe it or not spergs don't just stop being spergs when one person mutes them.
The company being able to mute them was already mentioned.
That's called shadowbanning.
>pic
I didn't say the game didn't have a trial. I said you don't have to buy the game until lvl 50. You are illiterate.
>You avoided the question.
What question? The greentext you quoted isn't even responding to a question.
>You're not paying to be in a store.
There are plenty of stores you have to pay to get into you fricking moron, and that's not even counting shit like bars and museums, who can also kick you out after paying.
>I didn't say the game didn't have a trial. I said you don't have to buy the game until lvl 50. You are illiterate.
I was simply pointing out that it seems you can level to 20 for free; it's non-obvious that 1-50 is available with a subscription.
>It's a trial to level 20.
you have to agree to the TOS before you're even allowed in the trial you complete moron.
>It doesn't exclude politics or gold selling, and there's not a manual way to specify.
then download a chat addon and make your own filters lmao. blizzard develops an API specifically so you can add your own features to the game like this.
>What happened to Global and Trade chat?
There was never a global chat. Trade chat was once filled with people looking for groups until the LFG tool was made useful.
I just want to say that I will never stop seething at how underused the Warcraft IP is.
>We could have had Warcraft 4
>We could have had a Morrowind/Daggerfall style RPG set in Azeroth
>We could have had a Total War with a Warcraft skin
>We could have had a Vermentide style game fighting the various big bads in the setting
>We could have had so much more
Instead we get shitty expansions for a shitty MMO that only exists because of addicts who wont quit. As well as a shitty card game. Even the fricking porn sucks because its almost always futa homosexualry or mentally ill cuckolds with their ORCED/TROLLED/WORGED garbage. Literally no hope for this cursed IP.
Now have a femdead since they are the only thing from this damn game I still love.
i'm with you
the fact that we never got any kind of traditional warcraft RPG is such a complete fricking waste of the IP
Full loot wouldn't work on WoW.
WoW needs a complete rework to accomodate proper world PvP.
Factions need to go. Death should have a penalty higher than 2 gold and 1 minute. Ghost runs shouldn't exist.
Killing another player should have both a reward and a risk.
No version of WoW was ever good for WPvP for anything other than griefing and holding control of a farming spot for 50 seconds at a time.
Is the chat dead or are you too autistic to start a conversation? Just checking
who are you talking to, little guy?
GW2 already figured out how to do non linear progression. Tons of shit to farm and there is no race to the top every patch. Do any type of content and you will have a path to getting geared. Of course the soulless modern WoW would need redone from the ground up and its absolutely not going to be invested in to that degree since they still make bank without much effort.
People on my vanilla server would give me mad shit for having conversations in Trade chat but I made some friends that way too and gained some odd level of infamy from it.
Always struck me odd how averse many people are to communication and conversation in a massively multiplayer game.
Xirs who report because they said something mean are a contributing factor to the game's slow demise
>waaaaaah i can't believe i'm not allowed to run around screeching about trannies and Black folk
you're like toddlers.
>"What are filters?"
What are you asking?
for full loot to work the rest of the game needs to accomodate it. since everything in wow thats of value comes from running dungeons it would not succeed. If you have full loot you need to have a player economy and equipment obtained entirely from crafting/buying from another player. this allows it to be expendable so losing the items isnt that big of a deal but if you lost your 0.000001 droprate item you'd be out like a year of your time
>for full loot to work the rest of the game needs to accomodate it. since everything in wow thats of value comes from running dungeons it would not succeed. If you have full loot you need to have a player economy and equipment obtained entirely from crafting/buying from another player. this allows it to be expendable so losing the items isnt that big of a deal but if you lost your 0.000001 droprate item you'd be out like a year of your time
They would, at a best, make lots of variety and depth to equipment; but you can have world PvE giving characters the most power available simply to have as long as they can, as much as is reasonable. Increase size, mobility, and selection of abilities, rivaling comics.
was this post written by an AI or that guy who makes the fun can be solved threads
Can you stay on topic?
frick off ian
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