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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Classic won.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >release expansion that isn't complete fricking dogshit
    >subs go up
    crazy how that works

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      df is dogshit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's miles than BFA and SL

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >literally the only expansion since wrath with more players post-launch than during launch
        You lost asmongold

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >880k M+ runs a week
          That’s like 300k subs holy frick

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ive been playing WoW on and off since launch, I am their target demo who resubs for just about any FOMO thing and I have done a total of 2 mythic+ dungeons and both were during Legion

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >targeted crafting system
        >easy set item conversion
        >no upkeep system
        >big talent rework
        >patch cycle is faster
        >balance patches faster

        There's objectively nothing wrong with it, except for only 3 raids with the last being fated.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >70% is third world boosting group/gold sellers
    LOL, LMAO even

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >source: dude trust me frick wow

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's so sad to see that people still play WoW despite blizzard literally shitting on them

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >graph starts at Legion
    Kek

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >broooo it's because of CLASSIC haha.....so......yeah, my expansion won not yours !!!!!!!
    meanwhile..it's the same fricking sub. Blizzard's face when

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Boomers who actually believe this need a reality check. Classic has a healthy player base, but is it in the multiple millions? I doubt it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Solid million between all versions of classic is still numbers any MMO would kill for.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      t. current developer at blizzard seething that more people play classic
      it's fine I could imagine someone wants to play as gay dragon but not many LMAO

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        imagine thinking the devs at blizzard, at this point, care which of the games is more successful. Bro they care about their job security lmao. Plus they get shifted around on both games constantly depending on how much work there is. You really have no grip

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Plus they get shifted around on both games constantly depending on how much work there is
          we know there's a classic team and a retail team, why would they get shifted? seriously, why are you guys always so moronic and wrong? classic is running an on a skeleton crew and nets more subs than anything retail cucks do. That's the reality and there's a reason for that classic wow is just the better, simple fact.
          >you can quite literally see dragonflight is the reason the game is back,
          what?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >we know there's a classic team and a retail team
            mainly in leadership positions but regular devs and QA probably get shifted around

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bruh at a big company like that you might get shifted around more than one time in a year just depending on shit like whether or not your boss in that position likes you or not.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      /thread

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Waiting for the copers to screech that it"s fake

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    imagine the type of sad loser who still plays blizzard products. reminder that blizzard is full of troony devs who hate white men.

    disgusting.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >imagine the type of sad loser who still plays blizzard products
      i still do, but understandable perspective...they've been bad lately
      >full of troony devs who hate white men.
      aaaaaaand it's a chud. Opinion moved to trash bin

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Assumi and worgen. Thank you assumi

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >porn image
        >likes blizzard
        >says chud unironically
        Woah, you check all the boxes for awful human being so far, what else you got?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i only have female characters in wow despite being a man

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > aaaaaaand it's a chud

        yes. And you will soon be part of a growing percentage you furry loving abomination!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          sure, keep posting your little graphs that exist since before you even knew about this website

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            welp
            know what I'm jerking off to tonight

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            artist name?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              noname55

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >sister had depression - 4%
          >turns out she's also secretly a lesbian - 20%
          Please don't suddenly go trans too, I don't want that percentage to keep going up...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >furry loving
          Said the guy with a frog fursona

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The numbers are actually a little worse than they look for trannies because the overall population figure is being pulled slightly higher because of them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i only have female characters in wow despite being a man

        sure, keep posting your little graphs that exist since before you even knew about this website

        I wish human women were real

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they are real to me

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            god i love blood elf bimbos

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous
  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how many of those are blood and flesh humans and not robots?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The cycle repeats itself, you frickers will be crying again in no less than 2 months. Why do you fall for it every time?

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    im glad classic got created to make it easy to see which type of wow player is the biggest gay
    >b-but furries!
    yes classic gays are bigger homosexuals than furries. i have never once encountered an actual furry in my wow experience but classic gays need to let you know their life peaked in middle school on a daily basis

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this game still only designing pajama armor?

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no actual numbers
    >taken from gdc where they can just say or show whatever
    do blizzdrones really?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >dude they're totally releasing false information even though it's illegal
      the average Gankerermin

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its not illegal lmao, you can LITERALLY make any claim you want as long as its partially true. Literally the 9/10 doctors recommend

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          not the same and you know it. they are beholden to their shareholders, they cannot lie

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            to their shareholders, they cannot lie
            >He doesn't know that they do lie a lot to either keep the money flowing or to create the game they want

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wow its a good thing they werent presenting to their shareholders

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            not the same and you know it. they are beholden to their shareholders, they cannot lie

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lying is completely legal as long as it's not shareholders being lied to

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They've been lying to shareholders too by inflating their stats with intentionally misleading language (and covering up all the rapes, but nobody cares about women anyway)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and covering up all the rapes
            there were no rapes

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Get back to work blizzdrone

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Reminder that almost everything got thrown out
                the people involved were caught lying
                all the homosexuals and trannied involved in the attempted corporate coup were laid off or got fired
                It was all bullshit and actiblizzard walked away with a bunch of big Ws

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok bobby

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Keep coping valentin
                Maybe you won't get fired from your next job for jerking it to porn during meetings LMAO

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And nobody offed themselves either, gotcha. Thanks Chris

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That’s wrong.
              I was literally raped

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes they do really.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        we don't like blizzard
        we like wow

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It checks out more or less with google trends graph. It's just less sad without the first part.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >taken from gdc where they can just say or show whatever
      those numbers are less than WoTLK had and the only reason they have numbers like that is classic. Which shows
      >old good
      >new bad
      is literally true.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm surprised people actively still give money to Blizzard considering how hard they detest their playerbase
    battered wife syndrome?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the wow team has been doing a decent job for the past year or so
      can't say the same for the rest of their IPs

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no numbers in the image

    and?

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >500+ post from XIVcultists seething

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >record post launch stability
    Translation: not everyone jumped ship a month after release. If your goal is simply not to fail then kek

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >classic is the only reason wow became popular again

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL ABSOULTE BTFO RETAIL KEKS

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      isn't it quite sad for the retail developer the only reason their game gained traction because of classic? a game not made by them that does everything different to retail? How do you feel about this as a developer?

      lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the most hyped 'classic' version is the one with retail talents/features
      >3 versions of classic yet it still doesn't outnumber the people playing retail
      >playing classic means you are fueling retail's development and in-game gold economy via tokens

      I thank classic players for funding my dungeon/raid lobby game in retail.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>3 versions of classic yet it still doesn't outnumber the people playing retail
        it does
        >I thank classic players for funding my dungeon/raid lobby game in retail.
        classic players only buy expansion + the subs you retail cucks buy the mtx shit, so yea you are literally funding classic.

        A lot of the gigahomosexuals who did BFA and SL are out now, they're the ones who would have absolutely killed the game entirely had classic not been there to save them. Just need to cull Hazzikostas and it'll be brighter days for retail.

        >Just need to cull Hazzikostas and it'll be brighter days for retail.
        he wants to take the game with him

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can quite literally see dragonflight is the reason the game is back, the only classic success is season of discovery

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    isn't it quite sad for the retail developer the only reason their game gained traction because of classic? a game not made by them that does everything different to retail? How do you feel about this as a developer?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A lot of the gigahomosexuals who did BFA and SL are out now, they're the ones who would have absolutely killed the game entirely had classic not been there to save them. Just need to cull Hazzikostas and it'll be brighter days for retail.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You just know it's all from the people that had quit to play FF that are coming back.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just so we're clear, those sub numbers from GDC are referring to PAID monthly subs, right?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the bottom image is literally fiction from someone who forgot to take into account the China numbers being culled.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i mean ,yes? china was the only region that had some weird playtime thing, but they switched to monthly sub before legion launched

      the bottom image is literally fiction from someone who forgot to take into account the China numbers being culled.

      the numbers are that high without china, that's what the graph says

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >nothing mentioning china on eitther the real GDC or the fanfiction one
        >no y axis on the top graph that was actually made by blizzard
        it's all speculation and clickbait m8, otherwise why would Blizz just say so themselves

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bottom is Bellular's made up numbers, not official in any way. He also didn't mention the CN sub change at all in his explanation with how he came up with them so he totally failed to account for the CN sub going monthly in legion.

        Also, the numbers that Bellular based his numbers on most definitely did include the prepaid Chinese net cafe cards.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.mmorpg.com/news/revenue-model-shifts-in-china-now-subscription-based-2000091633

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yea, I know that this is when that happened. That's my point, there was never an official announcement of sub count after this change was made, and these numbers are not official they are the ramblings of a drunk mick.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yea, I know that this is when that happened. That's my point, there was never an official announcement of sub count after this change was made, and these numbers are not official they are the ramblings of a drunk mick.

          but you're wrong, and you would've known that if you watched his video

          wod ended at 5.5m reported subscribers, and this is in their quarterly report from back then
          then they stopped reporting subscribers

          in the legion investor call, they reported that for the similar quarter, legion is slightly outperforming wod in terms of subscribers

          so, legion had to have >5.5m subscribers, right?
          and this is with the chinks switching to a monthly sub as the change was made before legion even launched

          that's the starting point of the graph

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Chinks didn't get legion when we did. How do you not know this?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              when did they get it, enlighten me

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                2016/9/1 looks like, and they stopped selling point cards around that time.
                But the prepaid card system was still in place up till 2018/8/4 before it officially shutdown so you had the option of going prepaid (if you had bought it before Legion) or monthly. Blizz could still claim those non-expired point cards as active sub all the way until 2018.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Subscriber
            Would've had a different definition before the CN sub change happened. To know if there was actually an increase they would have to compare to the definition that is now only monthly subs starting with Legion, the comparison is not one-to-one, it is impossible for it to be. They're claiming an increase based on a number we don't know because it would've had to have been under redefined criteria.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >wod ended at 5.5m reported subscribers, and this is in their quarterly report from back then
            >then they stopped reporting subscribers

            Reporting of subscribers ended at 5.5 million, barely a third of the way through WoD which was the expansion most known for having no content. Subscribers absolutely continued free falling well below the last 5.5 million subscriber report. On top of that, China was still included in those sub numbers back then, and has since been removed from that region. Many migrated to other regions, but there still has to have been many others that simply dropped wow because of that as well.
            Basically the second graph with hard numbers is a total clickbaiting asspull. It's amazing to me that it's being paraded about like gospel and there's next to no questioning of it.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get it, if sub numbers are going up and wow still has more than half of the peak of wotlk/cata, then why are players still feeling down?

    they don't like getting nickel-and-dimed more?
    there are too many game modes instead of just 1 like in the past?

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Try retail wow since I'm subbed for SoD
    >Bored out of my mind in the first zone of SL
    Holy frick will these NPC's ever stop yapping? I like leveling in classic more than this shit, it's so annoying

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SL is hands down the worst content I've ever seen. if you make a new character the game outright recommends levelling in BFA rather than SL which I find very funny. I just about managed to complete the first zone in SL before dropping it entirely and going back to WoD levelling

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        for all of WoD's faults, its zone design was the best the game ever saw

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          my Black person. levelling in Draenor is still really comfy and efficient, and I think it's criminally underrated

          >level 1 stables
          >level 1 glad sanctum
          >herbalism, mining and handynotes addon for treasures
          >XP gainz

          even with war mode on you never see other players, it's sad

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I haven't played after BfA launch so I thought it'd be fun to do something new but I don't know if I can do it. I don't have DF anyway so I'll probably just uninstall that shit

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if you don't plan on getting DF, just skip SL honestly from what little I've played (I went there to farm a couple of cool looking 2h swords) it really is the most convoluted mess of an expansion, I couldn't find a single redeemable quality about it other than a couple of the zones look kinda cool. even the world quests have extra steps like

          >loot 8 of these things from these mobs
          >hand them into this friendly mob
          >now control the mob to kill 10 of these mobs
          >return the mob to its spawn booth

          there's no fast world quests, it's all just busywork. absolute chore of an expansion, and its made worse by the fact that none of it feels remotely like warcraft at all. I'm glad I skipped it entirely when it came out

          If you're not interested in BFA levelling or another old expansion I'd just forget retail unless you want DF.

          Give me one good reason to play WoW again before the Dawntrail pre-orders go live. You have 35 minutes.

          I hadn't played WoW since BFA, and I genuinely thought I never would again. I got roped in to playing DF and it's actually a breath of fresh air, the game is actually fun again. they overhauled talent trees entirely so you can build a spec you like or just import the meta ones if that's your preference. dragon riding is fun and the new continent is nice, more collectibles now than there ever was if that's your bag, and there's a big emphasis on transmog now. I was surprised by how much I actually like this expansion, and I was a pro hater. I can't say anything about the story though because I couldn't give a frick, I've skipped every cutscene and ignored all the dialogue but from what I've seen it's pretty lame on that front. lots of female brained quests like rescuing small animals and shit, and the horde and alliance are friends now despite all the awful shit theyve done to each other, noone seems to give a shit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's amazing because it fails in just about every way.
        >zones are shit
        >dungeons and raids are shit
        >solo stuff is shit
        >lore is shit, ruins a ton of stuff retroactively, but mostly afterlife shenanigans
        >characters are shit, with a major lack of important lore characters that were killed off not even relegated to cameos
        >PvP is shit
        >even the roleplaying factor is shit given this all takes place away from Azeroth and only a small handful of people, including the player character, are actually roped in

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          are shit, with a major lack of important lore characters that were killed off not even relegated to cameos
          This is biggest fumble of all time, They saw how hyped people got for illidan and then had a perfect excuse to bring back everyone. Arthas, Varian, Garrosh fricking Amber Kiernan from SI7 give us something

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love to see it. People will be playing WoW in their nursing homes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably, people have made their whole lives mountmogscheevosing, if the game were to close down there'd be an actual mental health crisis.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    apologize

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a bit shocked this dude wasn't in on the Cosby Crew shit, but I guess unlike the rest of the eternal fratbros, he actually had a family that he loved.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mf is too charismatic to need to rape women. women rape him

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This thread was so based. There was some anon that got jerked off by his gf and came shooting out the window on the head of a little schoolgirl.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous
            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why the frick is Ganker compressing these images now? I can’t read shit

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                mobile scum saved it through a web browser page

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Man's just too nice. Probably comes from a mix of being a family man and having an ex drug addiction he had to get through.
        I wouldn't be surprised if him tweeting Chris Metzen was him trying to find if someone brought up something he did during his coke days he can't remember and not the Cosby shit.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Give me one good reason to play WoW again before the Dawntrail pre-orders go live. You have 35 minutes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hot waifu fs furry troony with a mexican drug smuggler recently turned troony VA
      i'd still prefer if you stayed in your dead game actually

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >generic hasbro elf #2859484
        Unconvinced because the graphics upgrade is going to make all the FFXIV characters 1000x hotter than anything WoW will be able to produce in the next decade.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you can put lipstick on a pig. at the end of the day, it's still a pig
          and i'm pretty sure the japs are still confused on what anti aliasing is so the dead game will still look jaggy and janky as frick
          you do you my guy, like i said, i'd prefer if you stayed away. sqeerix is struggling, they need your disability bux

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is this coomer buzzword soup with extra mental illness on top supposed to be compelling?

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >your chart starts with legion
    >a point in which every single person I know had quit wow for years by
    I still dont buy the numbers

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >completely made up numbers by one of the only remaining wow youtubers thats been sucking off blizzard for over a decade
    >a secondary source confirms that it's true in a literal "just trust me bro" way
    lol
    lmao even
    the game is dead. even my friend that has played the game 40+ hours a week every week without fail since around TBC is no longer playing the game.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I refuse to believe WoW has 7.25 million active subscribed players in fricking 2024.
    Especially since WoW is fricking dead in China (literally gone), which had like 60% of the Classic player base or something crazy (I forget the exact number). That would mean it's pretty much as popular in the west, if not more, as it was at its peak in Wrath/Cata.

    That's absolute bullshit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I refuse
      *farts on you*

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      chinks play on american servers now

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The
    Graph
    Is
    Fake
    Stop falling for this shitty bait, it’s quite literally a shill campaign. /wowg/ already had a meltdown yesterday after finding out that their game is indeed around 500k subs still

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >one single spec from one single class in WOTLK had more parses than the entire population of the game in DF
      grim

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The
        Graph
        Is
        Fake
        Stop falling for this shitty bait, it’s quite literally a shill campaign. /wowg/ already had a meltdown yesterday after finding out that their game is indeed around 500k subs still

        >retareded classicBlack folk STILL dont understand what is a parse
        >Mythic vs moronic easy mode made for Black folk
        have a nice day
        Classic is a dead dogshit mode

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Retoilets are in shambles LMAO

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >has no arguments
            >BUT LOOK BIGGER NUMBER MEANS BETTER
            You should really have a nice day, you're not even stupid because you got called out so many times
            And you're still posting that shit because hating Retail is literally your moronic Black person live
            have a nice day seriously

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Lmao why are you crying? Why are you such a little pussy b***h about your retailshit getting MOGGED by classic and XIV

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Black person starts projecting after getting destroyed once again
                LMAO

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Look at you mald that your dragon furry game is under 500k subs LMAOO

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >t. the Black person that wasted years of his life shitposting about "wow dead" is having the biggest meltdown ever
                This is what REAL sunk-cost fallacy look like
                Keep coping and projecting some more

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hears the truth
                >makes up boogieman in his head to cope
                LMAOOOO are you ok retail cuck?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Keep coping and projecting some more
                LMAO THIS Black person

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >so angry he forgets how to greentext properly
                Are your tears getting in the way? LMAO

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >more entries in statistics because there are more boss kills since classic is easier
          I've been trying to explain it to the Classicgays for years, but they just don't get it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          RWF is responsible for like 3m of those with all those fricking split runs lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah the 0.00001% is responsabile for 99% of the unique characters not even parses
            Are you just a black moronic ape or larping as one?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >he doesn't know about the viewer split runs where they buy loot for gold
              >or all the sold runs afterward to try and recoup the gold they spent
              >or the boe farming runs where they have to kill the first boss to start farming
              the top guys "only" have like 5 alts each, but all the shit around them definitely adds up

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cope

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you're replying to an actual baiting, disingenuous 3rd worlder posting MYTHIC PARSES for retail from his iphone 2
        everyone knows the majority of people do heroic and below, with LFR having the highest participation overall

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bm that far up
      never tell me that retail players don't want easy, 3 button specs ever again

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What moron is saying players don’t want that?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You'll get people pop up all the time ooking and eeking like Black personmonkeys about how retail rotations are so difficult compared to older stuff, which is true, and yet retail players clearly don't want to deal with the convoluted bullshit most specs have become thanks to DF's moronic talent design just being "give everyone every gay mechanic from Legion onwards"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/35#boss=2820&metric=execution&page=85
      >4216 retail guilds killed mythic gnarlroot
      https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/1020/#boss=845&metric=execution&page=76
      >3760 guilds have killed heroic 25 marrowgar
      >retail raids have 20% less players than classic raids
      not looking good classicsister

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Have they fixed the hall of fame yet? I remember a while back there were almost no alliance guilds who had cleared mythic so blizzard held cross server play hostage for AGES. China used to boost people through just to fill up the hall of fame but after China got the boot the alliance HoF was at like 8/100 for months

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >he's still posting mythic parses for retail

    grim

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >now he's samegayging
    grim

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So we've gone from 10 million subs from 2011... to 7 million subs in 2024.

      WoW has only dropped 30% 13 years later, how exactly is WoW dying again?

      Cope

      you're replying to an actual baiting, disingenuous 3rd worlder posting MYTHIC PARSES for retail from his iphone 2
      everyone knows the majority of people do heroic and below, with LFR having the highest participation overall

      >claims someone else is samegayging
      >proceeds to samegay
      What’s the endgame?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wasting your time or shilling (for free!), dealer's choice

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everyone is sanegayging anon, look at the ip count, it’s not even there, there’s like only one guy in here at best

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Then that means….

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So we've gone from 10 million subs from 2011... to 7 million subs in 2024.

    WoW has only dropped 30% 13 years later, how exactly is WoW dying again?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We know that WoW Classic's playerbase was about 50-60% Chinese. It's reasonable to assume at least 95% of those players are now gone with the game's permanent shutdown in China a year or so back (very, very few are going to start brand new accounts with VPNs in other regions).
      Similar numbers can be assumed for Retail, but we only concretely knew China's Classic ratio.

      Either way it's basically impossible that the game has over 7 million subs AFTER the Chinese exodus, that "leak" is total horseshit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The chart obviously doesn't include China because we'd see a drop in early 2023 if it did, the average is probably based on just NA+EU+TW. It also makes sense that they didn't include CN because the drop from the NetEase falling out had nothing to do with the content of the talk.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The biggest issue is Bellular's numbers, which the second chart is based on, is basically him guessing based on the last known subscriber numbers in WoD, which included China's numbers. Without a Y-axis or WoD numbers to compare to this chart, it's effectively worthless, unless Blizzard wants to tell us what their expected sub count is.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >obviously doesn't include China
          >she thinks wow has 7M subs without China
          lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Black person, I'm talking about John Hight's chart with no numbers because it is the only reliable source WE DO NOT KNOW THE FRICKING NUMBERS AND NEITHER DOES BELLULAR, THE ONLY THING PROVEN IS A TREND NO ACTUAL NUMBERS WERE GIVEN AND CANNOT BE RELIABLY EXTRAPOLATED. I'd like to pretend like that nasty clickbaiting mick frick doesn't exist.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Take your hrt and go back to your ff41 containment thread

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Good now take your hrt and go back to yoyr ff41 containment thread

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >We know that WoW Classic's playerbase was about 50-60% Chinese.
        if that was the case, blizzard would have done everything to be still in China, you moron.
        Nobody cares how much people play from less developed countries do the only people who matter are EU and NA because those people have spending power MONEY MONEY MONEY.
        1 person from EU or NA is worth 100 Chinese in that regard.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >1 person from EU or NA is worth 100 Chinese in that regard.
          Chinese Classic had mtx (tokens) years before it started arriving in EU/NA servers, and Asian players fricking love buying power what are you talking about anon

          I mean, they HAD to have made more per player in China.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            why is that the loss of china is barely reflected in their financial reports?
            in fact they reported record breaking profits with d4 release. without china
            i think 3rd worlders here overestimate how much money western companies make in the good ol CCP
            it's not a lot compared to the western market

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            chinese currency is worth nothing compared to $ or € you literal child, grow up. You don't know how the world works every fricking media company wants EU and NA people over thirdies like you.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >like you
              Black person do you honestly believe I'm a Chinese guy trying to argue how important I am to Blizzard

              Obviously not, but regardless it'd be moronic to pretend the loss of China didn't have a big impact on them. Again, we KNOW that Classic was about 50% Chinese. We know their version had mtx. It's a very, very reasonable assumption that losing China was a big loss, both in general and specifically for the subscriber count.

              >Chinese currency is worth nothing
              Anon I'm sure they're not paying 5 china-bucks a year or something. Adjusted to USD, it's likely only slightly lower, like with Brazil or shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it'd be moronic to pretend the loss of China didn't have a big impact on them
                how do they keep reporting record profits without china?
                please enlighten us Black person man

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >how do they keep reporting record profits
                Frick knows, somehow every year is the best year for Activision Blizzard. No matter how shit their games, or whatever PR disaster.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                right, so you're basically coping

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Obviously not, but regardless it'd be moronic to pretend the loss of China didn't have a big impact on them. Again, we KNOW that Classic was about 50% Chinese.
                can't be that big, if it was big an American company would do everything to get more shekels, you can be sure about that.
                >Anon I'm sure they're not paying 5 china-bucks a year or something. Adjusted to USD, it's likely only slightly lower, like with Brazil or shit.
                that's just how the world works, anon we are more worth as white people than anybody else.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                if china were that big they would've done anything in their power to stay there

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The NetEase partnership was reported as $750 million annually while actiblizz revenue in 2022 was around $7.5 billion. So 10% for all of actiblizz with the lower sub fee which was about half the NA sub and whatever cut NetEase takes. I could see CN easily having been like 25-40% of Blizzard's MAUs considering unknowns like what was the $750 mil breakdown between Activision/Blizzard/King.

                Sort of irrelevant since MS has patched up shit with NetEase and they're going to relaunch in China now. Unless it did insane brand damage to them in China that is.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >blizzard would have done everything to be still in China
          by all accounts it was a problem with 1 executive and the Second Kotick was gone CHYNA was back in play, curious

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Call of Duty developer Blizzard Entertainment

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Going by the severity of the initial severance Kotick was doing something REALLY fricking scummy, like "China immediately torched all WoW server clusters and they need a lot of time to get all that back up and running" scummy.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its surprising these bait threads get so many replies. who cares? i dont like blizzard, they havent produced anything that wasnt shit in forever. if WoW had 80 million subs i still wouldnt care. the graph in op is marketing material which is categorically bullshit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they're not bait threads, it's funny to watch bucks recoil and just nervously scroll through their rolodex of cope out of sheer desperation that their delusion was just that

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, in other words, baiting. even dumber it's likely baiting bots

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's not baiting. multiple sources are corroborating the graphs and i'm here just for the clown carousel of morons looking to deboonk them

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            NTA, are any of those sources from blizzard? Because they’re the only ones I’d really trust about this stuff, and I want to know if the numbers are fake or not

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              so you trust blizzard but you don't trust their graphs?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I trust blizzard, but the graph with the sub numbers didnt come from blizzard it came from some youtuber. I want to know if blizzard sources confirmed the youtuber’s numbers or if they’re inaccurate

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >who cares?
      nobody, the only reason we care is to shit on dumb retail cucks who think anybody plays their gay game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's just funny to watch people suddenly act like Bellular's numbers are official, verified, and accurate after years and years of shitting on him for playing fast and loose with numbers from M+ runs and raid kills.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Think they'll change their tune again when his next clickbait video is about how no one is participating in s4 or whatever.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bellular's such a weasel. He's a human windmill that says only what gets him clicks and money.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        even outside of Ganker, bad publicity is still good publicity. by posting or caring about this you are helping blizzard 🙂

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WoW drones are brainless cattle. Why is this news? They will always give blizzard money because they simply have no brains

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just find it funny that the graph starts at legion

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why won’t blizzard release sincere active subscribers? Don’t post MAU’s or you are moronic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If they do it now because the numbers are good, they'll be expected to keep doing it when numbers aren't so hot.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they did it with that graph

        The game isn’t good, and nobody is playing it. Blizzard is in shambles and this is cope. It isn’t a sincere graph, and if it was surely it is inflated somehow to convince shareholders

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they did it with that graph

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    those numbers are made up. the source to those number is some literal who youtuber.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    couple of weeks ago I was interested in the game, I played the tutorial missions and it was ok, then I watched a streamer play the latest dungeon and it was a visual mess I couldn't understand and they also had this weird fricking voice telling them what to do at every second.

    Sounds like the endgame is not for me so I'll stick with casual mmorpgs instead.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Classic's a fair bit more casual at endgame, takes longer to get there though, if a long journey suits your fancy.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As long are genuine sub numbers and not being fudged (e.g. a single sub counts as 5 subs if a player is playing retail, SoD, HC, Plunderstorm, etc), it looks like WoW is back on track.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      these are subscribers, not MAUs

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't hate Blizzard at all. However, the graph starts in 2016. For most of us, the big heyday of WoW was in the mid 00s. Pre-Cataclysm. Which isnt even included on this graph just "Cataclysm Classic" which is the re-release.
    I don't hate WoW at all. I am glad if people are still having fun with it. I certainly don't hate Blizzard or the people who work there. They can make whatever games they want to make (or are getting a paycheck to make). I am not the kind of person who starts getting mad just because they included a gay charater or whatever. HOWEVER. It is dishonest to cut off the graph in 2016. It needs to start at LEAST 10 years prior to that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >dishonest
      This wasn't an investor call. This was a talk intended for other game devs. The chart starts at Legion because the fundamental design of WoW shifted significantly in Legion and hasn't changed much aside from supporting systems since then, comparing trends with earlier expansions isn't very valuable in that context.

      It was that fricking moron Bellular that took what could've been an interesting discussion on why DF is performing better despite all its flaws and turned it into whatever this autistic slap fight is over numbers and Chinese subs and bug hours and whatever the frick else.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >homosexualflight has as many subs as Legion
    You'd honestly have to be ungodly moronic to think this is true lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Any sub counts as a sub, so all the classic-only people are being lumped in with post-Legion kusoge.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no. wow overall, with all its versions, have as much subs as legion
      i don't think it matters to blizzard either way, a sub is a sub

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >this graph was already to be fake
    >people still just spamming it
    >there are still morons falling for it
    We’re gonna see this for the next year aren’t we?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      go back to your favela

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    test

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >over seven million players
    XIV lost so fricking hard.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      More like 7 millions GAYers

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        WoWsisters…. Our response?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they turned the frogs gay
          its over

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >why is Wellington so cute?
            Who the frick writes this dialogue?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He is though

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I’m more offended by how badly it breaks immersion to see a couple named Beef and Wellington

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There are npcs, quests, items, etc. from original world of warcraft that reference real people in pop culture. How is beef wellington different?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                because they never played wow

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >reference
                that isn't a reference
                thats just a name used out of place

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Its equally stupid

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                there were entire questlines that were just movie references
                but those are "soul" because they are old I guess
                NEW BAD, OLD GOOD

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >square enix store is getting so hammered that it's breaking at the seams
    >WoW thread bragging about player counts with an unsourced graph that explains literally nothing goes up

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >SE website is breaking at the seams
      this has nothing to do with player numbers

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        prospective players and returning players don't count, just focus on the purchase website going down sweaty

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Uhhhh…. cope and seethe you *looks at shitpost list* X-XIVtroony

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wow will only ever decrease in popularity. No one new is playing, it's just old fans jumping on and off the bandwagon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. WoW has one of the worst new player experiences in any game despite how hard they tried to fix it.
      The fact that you will still get spammed by Chinese bots filling your chat box with text about their gold selling website on the starter boat is all you need to know about the state of WoW

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Blizzard stopped reporting subscriber numbers after WoD. The trend has been downwards since WoW hit 12m peak during Cata. I don't believe for a second that blizzard managed to recover, even with the Classic boost. That has never happened in any other mmo. After they hit a peak and start going down, the trend is always down, even if they have some short term upwards momentum due to a new expansion or new version of the game.

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The problem with this chart is that there aren't numbers given. The bottom numbers were added afterward by a Youtuber. Starting at Legion is a problem because we don't know what the sub count actually was during Legion. For all we know this could be much lower or higher.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Almost certainly lower because of the CN sub change, but we don't know how much lower. Could be 100k, could be 2million, but there should definitely be a vertical line between the last 2015 report and Legion Launch.

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Explains why they made season of discovery. Their biggest boosts and sustains seem to just be from re-releasimg vanilla.

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ffxiv is simply a better game

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hardcore was absolutely massive, but after two months the novelty of questing through Darkshore for the tenth time wore off and now it's basically dead.
    I'm wondering just how many times they can re-release vanilla before people are like, "nah I've had enough".

    A lot of people want them to go the OSRS route (in other words, actually make new shit but in vanilla's style), but that's too much work for them compared to just re-releasing the game with tweaks I guess.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm wondering just how many times they can re-release vanilla before people are like, "nah I've had enough"
      they already start to change everything with SoD mate.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry that was meant for

      Explains why they made season of discovery. Their biggest boosts and sustains seem to just be from re-releasimg vanilla.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Blizz doesn't want to commit to the vanilla+ experience because they can't monetize the everloving shit out of it like retail, and they know that the dedicated vanilla/SoD players are hostile to things like the WoW token.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Boosts, Tokens, faction/race swaps, and cosmetic mtx are all in Wrath Classic now, it's only a matter of time before it makes its way to Vanilla too.
        People were fricking seething at the sudden unannounced arrival of tokens in Wrath, but it happened and they stayed

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The numbers that broke Ganker..

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I WILL be playing Turtle WoW until a decent, less troony private server crops up and Blizzard CANNOT do a THING about this, or any other private server that isn't hosted in the israelitenited States and doesn't fall for their tear-stained C&Ds.

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So who the frick keeps making these threads? Some genuine WoW schizo or some shitposter that wants to fuel the MMO flame war?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some of these posts read like "people" who legitimately still play, so I believe this is unironic and this place is a bigger shithole than I give it credit for.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The ladder

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Matt or Bellular trying to pump up the views from their video or crowdsourcing "research" for the video they'll use to cover their asses in case someone big slaps down the 7 million number.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's just funny seing all this cope. why does the success of this game make so many mad? there are so many streamers making daily videos about how wow is dying because of this and that and whatnot and the get so many views. it's borderline delusional. you don't see this stuff with other popular games. no one says call of duty is dying.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >No one says CoD is dying.
        People have been saying CoD's dying since at least the Black Ops 4 shitshow, if not Ghosts.
        That said, WoW gets people wishing it'd die a lot more.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i don't see the same barrage of basedface streamers saying that about CoD. a lot of people hate CoD but you never hear them saying it's dead or dying.

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly I hope WoW does well with this new set of expansions because it will force other MMO devs to stay competitive.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This never works, it will never happen, other mmos just have to improve out of their own will.

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So....classic is carrying retail?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the classic dev team would be much bigger if that were the case. my guts also tell me that not many people want to autoattak boar asses for a 5% dropchance.

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Season of Discovery team is at least trying interesting things from what I've been hearing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Trying interesting things.
      Most of it is just stuff retail did over the years.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They quickly dropped the actually interesting stuff in favor of just porting broken retail spells in. Though they are breaking new ground by letting Mages suck ass for the first time ever.

        SoD players are just retail players in denial

        I dunno I still think some things are neat like having new weapon clickies and making old shitty unliked dungeons into raids so people will actually do them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They quickly dropped the actually interesting stuff in favor of just porting broken retail spells in. Though they are breaking new ground by letting Mages suck ass for the first time ever.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SoD players are just retail players in denial

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WOW and all mmo's suck massive dick

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    XIV has still more players. cope harder barry

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the amount of classicgay cope in this thread lmao

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the amount of classicgay cope in this thread lmao

      The
      Graph
      Is
      Fake
      Stop falling for this shitty bait, it’s quite literally a shill campaign. /wowg/ already had a meltdown yesterday after finding out that their game is indeed around 500k subs still

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people believe in the numbers blizzard provided as if they're 100% true? They've been caught lying before, it's not like they aren't boosting their numbers by using terms like "MAU" rather than "subscriber" at this point for example. Just because you liked the game back then doesn't mean blizzard was less full of lying scumbags, in fact it had more of them.

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that last expac, xiv sold so many more copies than expected that their servers collapsed. They had to pause all sales, for a whole month, DURING CHRISTMAS SEASON. Looks like this trend is happening again.

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >log into wow for the first time in years
    >look at the chat
    >get relentlessly bombarded with goldseller/boost/gdkp spam
    >check chat tabs
    >turns out they replaced the default trade chat with a trade chat dedicated to chink gold sellers and boosters

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    most if that is classic and most of classic is either bots or people with multiple accounts
    i'd like to see the numbers for single active non-bot or gold farmer accounts, people who actually play the game

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    for perspective

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are counting players from each version of the game separately even though they are not separate./

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >mimic
        They have better numbers than legion, legion is fricking dead after launch, shit drops so fast lmao

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      for a low effort historical perspective

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        WoD went way down before the new graph started though

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >classic brings people back
        >shit out shadowlands to drive them off
        poetry

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah im sure all the classic players are still playing the game

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i unsubbed a week ago but now they added free server transfers so i think i shall stay

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >blizzard makes up metric to make themselves look good

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >too busy sucking dick to save up from shadowlands
    rogue bros its over...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the canonical reason Anduin was kidnapped was because Shaw was being a fudgepacker
      You literally CANNOT make this shit up even if you tried to. They could not have come up with literally any other reason? Some kind of feint or something to distract him? It had to be because he was smoking pole? Really?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bro dont be anti-semitic.
        love is love

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I DON'T CARE IF HE'S A homosexual BUT BEING A homosexual SHOULDN'T BE THE CAUSITIVE FACTOR FOR A MAJOR PLOT POINT IT'S FRICKING moronic

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are people suddenly so insistent that Blizzard didn't count China in their sub numbers when they said they counted China in their sub numbers?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same thing as always. Deranged cope and the inability to argue in good faith. The WoWbuck special

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because wow closed in China in January 2023. And hasn't officially been there since.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not talking about those numbers, I'm talking about 2005-2015 when Blizzard used to release numbers. IE, the starting point for Bellular's assumptions.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if they counted china then there would have been a massive dip when the games went offline in china and there isn't
      unless you think the game is doing so well that even without china it's growing?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everyone in China who played actively just started playing on other servers, one sub is one sub no matter the area

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because china had a weird pay by the minute system iirc
      technically any account with time still on it counted as an active account

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm Chinese now living in the US, played like 2011~2014 in China. It wasn't that weird I just bought cards and loaded them onto my account. I think that's how all the ways we could pay were, it wasn't like you'd play for 10 hours one day and get a bill for it after.

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Graph is fake. There was that add-on that tracked and logged every player and no where close did these numbers match

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WoW doesn't have 7 million subscribers. This proves it. If they had that many players than the YouTube content would indicate it so and it does not.

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >bro df is bussin!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lmao. to be fair even gay people were upset about that one iirc.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >race of bastards who murdered their father
      >homosexual calicucks identify with them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      perforated colons incoming!

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The original graph shows expectations vs results, not the actual number of players.

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nah, that number is definitely pulled out of Belullar ass.
    He solely rely on Blizzard annual report that stated 'Legion performance OVERALL is slightly better than WoD' and just used WoD last reported numbers and add 5% on top of it.

    5mill is the LAST NUMBER REPORTED by Blizzard at basically HALF WAY through the expansion.
    We basically don't know the overall performance of WoD to draw any numbers out of it for Legion, but we all can guess that it is anything but upwards, which also bring the Legion 'overall' performance lower.

    tldr; Belullar is horseshit as usual

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he didn't finish his sentence because wow died at that moment

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >7 mil subs
    >only 4 mil watched the trailer
    blizzard being lying israelites again
    loving every laugh

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >33 million watched wod's trailer
      >only ~10 million subbed

      ><2 million watched wrath's announcement trailer
      >only ~12 million subbed

      see how moronic you are

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tacit admittance that dragonflight was a complete flop

  82. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so according to this line NO ONE came back for wrath which is the biggest bs in the entire thing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Trust the numbers bro
      it's probably just shadowlands dying at a faster rate than wotlk could pick up players

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The "best expansion ever" drew in at best 1/3rd of the players shitowlands did. Wouldn't have even propped up a normal expansion experiencing normal churn.

        [...]
        >retareded classicBlack folk STILL dont understand what is a parse
        >Mythic vs moronic easy mode made for Black folk
        have a nice day
        Classic is a dead dogshit mode

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No one came back for TBC. Wrath and Dragonflight released 2 months within each other so the climb can easily be attested to both of them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        7 hours queues on day1 but doesn't show on the graph
        ok blizzisraelite

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          well yeah they only had like 2 servers to make it seem like the game was popular, they've done the same thing with classic from the start

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it was hc that had 2 servers
            wrath classic had dozens
            you blizzisraelites got caught out on your fake ass graph

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >everybody piles into the only non dead server that can hold like 5k people at most
          >BUT MUH QUEUES
          lol

  83. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The marketers are laughing their asses with the charts they put together drumming up all this drama and free pr for Worlo. Amazing how impactful a dataless line is to a bunch of morons.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only people reading this stuff is either current wow players or lapsed wow players (not coming back) so I dunno if it's a big win for them

  84. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Meanwhile google trends

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Someone should post that to reddit to see how normal people react

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I want to see how Bellular reacts to this.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Sage

          I want to see how Bellular reacts to this.

          Stop self bumping your shit thread

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is something wrong?

  85. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really find it hard to believe WoW is back to MoP numbers of subs.

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