nobody gives a shit about dragons, lmao its the most unoriginal theme plus the new class is really bad
its over for WoW
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nobody gives a shit about dragons, lmao its the most unoriginal theme plus the new class is really bad
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you can't unmaze the mazed, just let them die out themselves
Anyone still playing this game is obviously a hopeless addict suffering from sunken cost fallacy. Aren't they down to around 1 million players left?
you forget chinese bot.
they make a good chunk of the playerbase right now.
I come back for a few weeks for every expansion and it's always a good time exploring the new areas, playing around with different classes and doing some endgame content. Don't see the issue with that but I pity the people that play it for longer
I haven't played retail or logged in to bnet in 4 years but even back then at the end of BFA biggest part of active playerbase was basically boosting groups and their paypigs. This game will never die because it's an addiction with its own ecosystem of providers and returning junkies.
This is really it. The only audience left are addicted whales and the ERPing furries and trannoids.
>I haven't played retail or logged in to bnet in 4 years
>played at the end of BFA
that's not how time works.
I think I quit around the time S1 was ending and people were waiting for dazar'alor raid to come out so probably end of 2018 or start of 2019. I meant to say end of raiding tier not expansion itself, my bad.
>was basically boosting groups and their paypigs
This is the only reason why i don't want to play dragonflight, Shadowlands was fun for the first 2-3 months before the game was just boosting groups. Every guild has a clique of people endlessly selling M+ boosts. You want to do any 3v3 arenas? Have fun being matched against the 2 gladiators playing CC heavy speccs with their 1 paypig. I would of stayed subbed to WoW despite the content drought if everything I did wasn't being affected by whales and people addicted to farming gold. PvP was actually well balanced and fun during shadowlands but the MMR system was so fricked that if you didn't play early/wanted to start playing an alt you were instantly playing against gladiators as soon as you hit 1400cr.
No matter what shit blizzard adds which gets the poltards triggered the game will be unplayable unless they ban boosting
The woke pandering really is just the cherry on top of the shit sundae. Discussions of it eclipses just how awful the game itself and the community is and sometimes it feels like that's the point.
it gets the critics focused on shitting on the ideological pandering while the cultists get caught up in zealously defending the game just because the devs pandered to their religion.
The game is buried under so many layers of shit that even if Blizzard did something right and let's say banned boosting and fixed the gold making mentality shared by majority of endgame players I'd just uncover another reason to never return ie: lack of social and realm interactions in modern solo queue/cross-realm/cross-zone version of Worlo, alliance being unplayable since Legion, pozzed identity politics injected into everything, raiding being the only content they focus on, the list goes on and on.
It's an unfixable frick-up because you just know they'll never fix any of those issues, just double down on them.
>Aren't they down to around 1 million players left?
around april some anon went and scraped 1 month of numbers from both EU and NA servers and turns out they only got around 500K active players in general (not counting china)
This is likely a shitpost
5 hours, 6 replies,
> this is likely a shitpost
new thread, already over 10 replies
> be 4chinz, home of the shitposting
Just how much volumes does that speak?
Don't you need to be subscribed to be able to post on WoW forums? I doubt addicts like this are just baiting or joking.
>blood elf
these gays were a mistake
Belfs were one of the catalysts to wow becoming shit and you can't convince me otherwise
The original catalyst was Undead in Horde.
It showed people were okay with eating contrived shit.
I doubt the story will be better, but the updates to the UI firmly places WoW's default UI as superior to FF14's default UI at least.
>so anyway about ff14 because I can't stop thinking about and talking about it
WoW vs FFXIV autism is dumber than console wars. Personally I only care about shitting on WoW cause I used to play this game back when it was much better. Never played FFXIV and never will.
>Never played FFXIV and never will.
First collectors edition I ever bought was the first release of FFXIV. The game so bad they had to completely remake it
>wow forums
>these kind of people still exist after 2 dogshit expansions in a row
>Tank Copium
I’ll play for 3 months as is Warcraft tradition
#dragonflightsweep
I thought Cataclysm was the dragon expansion. Did they run out of ideas?
>cataclysm ends with the dragonflights ushering in the age of mortals and giving up their immortality
>it only took 12 years for blizzard to continue that narrative
more like
it lasted only 12 years till everything is rectoned
ftfy
Cataclysm was Old Gods, they just happened to mindrape one of the big dragons into being their little b***h
Nah wows gonna be fine forever cause it's the only mmo that bothers with challenging raids and dungeons
It's not over until the last balding cumstained millennial WoW addict who's been playing since '05 dies
Jokes on you I'm not balding! I really should change my shirt though.
asmongold is my friend, not yours.
Assmongol is my friend too I'm subbed and I made a 10$ donation.
>2005: WoW is dead!!!
>2006: WoW is dead!!!
>2007: WoW is dead!!!
>2008: WoW is dead!!!
>2009: WoW is dead!!!
>2010: WoW is dead!!!
>2011: WoW is dead!!!
>2012: WoW is dead!!!
>2013: WoW is dead!!!
>2014: WoW is dead!!!
>2015: WoW is dead!!!
>2016: WoW is dead!!!
>2017: WoW is dead!!!
>2018: WoW is dead!!!
>2019: WoW is dead!!!
>2020: WoW is dead!!!
>2021: WoW is dead!!!
>2022: WoW is dead!!!
>2023: WoW is dead!!!
>2024: WoW is dead!!!
>2025: WoW is dead!!!
>2026: WoW is dead!!!
>2027: WoW is dead!!!
>2028: WoW is dead!!!
>2029: WoW is dead!!!
So what your smug ass face is trying to say is that WoW is immortal?
Suuuure.
WoW died to me the moment I stopped playing and that is the only time that matters to me really. What is being paraded around is a corpse or a zombie.
Onwards to Xpac 31&32 we go.
>WoW died to me the moment I stopped playing and that is the only time that matters to me really
Most based post in the thread.
>WoW died to me the moment I stopped playing and that is the only time that matters to me really
/thread
same with minecraft
>furBlack person still likes WoW.
How surprising. I wonder why.
It died already anon, XIV stole basically all of it's momentum. Wow is a sock puppet being held up by gold subs and whales.
>XIV stole basically all of it's momentum
every wowfugee is either already playing WoW again or moved on to other games like Lost ark. XIV's surge in popularity was just FOTOM shit.
>FOTOM
Shadowbringers has been out for 3 years anon
What does that have to do with anything?
So it's been flavor of the last 3 years then, with no sign of slowing down.
Where did all the login queues from last summer go then?
Not even major patch launches have login queues anymore lmao.
>just FOTOM shit
arr came out 10 years ago
When did I say otherwise? Are you illiterate?
XIV's momentum died faster than any content patch wow has ever released
Oh just wait till next expac announcement.
It is dead, though. They're selling a perfumed corpse
>He thinks WoW dying means it ceases to exist and if Blizz would allow that
Absolute moron
>g-game isn't dead because there's still a few thousand die hard addicts still playing
nice cope
guess everquest is still alive too then?
I bet Asmongold also wants to frick that cat.
>Sonic gay thinks Wow is good
Not surprising when you gays think 06 is good
>Furry defense force on it's way to protect worlo
KEKKARROOOOO
Just two more weeks
They will correct everything in the next expansion don't worry wowsisters.
I already have my wow obsessed friend telling me that they've fixed everything and everything looks amazing
I tell him that he's been telling me that the past 10 years and he says he doesnt know what Im talking about. these people are mentally ill or something I dont get it
It has been over for more than a decade now
at this point I'm excited to see just how much of a flaming trainwreck Dragonflight is going to be.
>alpha is unbalanced as all frick
>only 4 new dungeons, recycling a ton of old content as max level content
>had to buy out and absorb a whole other dev team just to help with this expac
>releasing in less than 5 months
it's going to be an absolute spectacle of a shitshow
is unbalanced as all frick
it's an rpg, not an esport
>only 4 new dungeons
there are 8 new dungeons, dumdum.
>had to buy out and absorb a whole other dev team just to help with this expac
there's zero chance the proletariat team is working on the game yet. they're largely still in training to learn how to dev the game. their purpose is to get more frequent patches out, not to work on the initial expansion launch.
in less than 5 months
yeah that's a little scary.
Imagine shilling for blizz, even ironically
mega yikes
>not an esport
>ranked PVP, timed dungeon runs and 'scores' to go with them
It is an E-sport in all but name at max level
I agree, so did the original team. Its an rpg not and e-sport. Blizz thinks otherwise, these days.
>it's an rpg, not an esport
the troony race is purposefully over powered to fit actiblizzards social agenda so its only trannies playing you can kiss competitive WoW goodbye
I'm sure theyll delay it, like they delayed Shadowlands. And like Shadowlands it won't help.
>new class
>fire mage with heals
how original
Retail has been fricking garbage ever since Cata, blizz unironically needs to end it and just focus all their resources on maintaining and improving vanilla/tbc/wrath servers
>Retail has been fricking garbage ever since Cata
do stupid people really think the expansions with 1 button rotations and bosses with no mechanics were the peak of the game?
>1 button
>no mechanics
confirmed never played vanilla or tbc or wotlk
(You)
I played all throughout classic and tbc, and wrath was when i started playing the game.
raids didn't actually get engaging until Firelands.
>Simplicity isn't inherently a negative
it is when it isn't engaging, like vanilla raids. i refuse to believe anyone finds AQ40 interesting.
>raids didn't actually get engaging until Firelands.
Frick you buddy. Ulduar hardmodes were the best.
>Ulduar hardmodes were the best.
Ulduar didn't expect anything of the player. even the "legendary" Algalon only had like 5 easy mechanics.
I stopped raiding when it became a sweatfest with heroic raids at the end of Wrath. I only wanted gear for pvp but since they seperated pvp and pve I completely lost interest in raiding.
Progression raiding just for bragging rights is fricking gay and feels like a second job. If it doesn't allow me to gain gear advantage in pvp then why bother.
>just for bragging rights
There's your problem. You think I want hard content for bragging rights, for some incomprehensible reason. Really I just like being challenged in games. I enjoy wiping and learning fights. Why is that so confusing for some of you?
>I enjoy wiping and learning fights. Why is that so confusing for some of you?
I don't get it. Sounds fricking boring and lame.
>Really I just like being challenged in games
Play pvp then. Wow pve has always been dogshit.
>I want to be challenged by fighting the same boring, pre-programmed, scripted fight where I have 10 addons telling me what to do at all times
>Play pvp then.
Not interested in the afterthought pvp minigame.
>Wow pve has always been dogshit.
It's by far the best PVE in the genre.
Now lets be honest, wow pve isn't easy in any way. Sure its pre programmed bosses. You just have to execute the character you and others theorycrafted and built, while dealing with various mechanics thrown your way. You get targetes, your party targets you, you have people to dodge, they have to dodge you, you cooperate etc. Its a massive logistic feat in gaming and it requires more than you could think to win. Try it, you'll understand quickly enough.
Simplicity isn't inherently a negative, the game was clearly more well liked when its raids were designed to be fun instead of autistic esports shit designed around a trillion add-ons, guide prewatching and bloated rotations.
The leveling/dungeon experience had meaning and depth. I still don't understand why people think endgame is all that matters. Trying to emulate your favorite esports streamer?
>The leveling/dungeon experience had meaning and depth
i've leveled a dozen characters to 60 in vanilla, both in 2005-2006 and during classic. it's some of the most vapid and monotonous gaming imaginable.
You are exactly the kind of moron that plays retail.
It literally has nothing to do with gay ass PvE rotations or whatever else you want to cope about. Old wow had SOUL and new wow is just gay, literally. I would actually explain in depth, but its pointless.
>Old wow had SOUL
you mean you grew up with it so nostalgia tricks you into thinking it's better.
No it really did and retail is beyond soulless. We all know that the only morons that still play this shit are homosexuals like this
and I'm reasonably certain that you're the same as him.
That's a lot of words to substantiate basically nothing.
It's clear as day that the only homosexuals excited for Dragonfurries are ERPing degenerates. Don't try to hide it.
still better than being an incel rping as a nazi on a weeb forum uwu
Are the incel Nazis in the room with you right now?
yes, my dumb older brother
Your need to be 18 to post here kid. Also listen to your brother and stop being a gay.
nUwU. gay 4 lyfe x3
Old WoW had soul, but the actual game was just as shit then as it is now. The only thing that made it soulful were the people who played it and the way they could enjoy each other's company freely, which ironically is one of the reasons ERP is actually good.
>which ironically is one of the reasons ERP is actually good.
I'm not a gay furgay so no.
No, it was a game that actually had a risk of you dying at all levels and way more meaningful content. Now it's something you can play while asleep and the endgame content is sitting in queues or grinding meaningless shit.
>and way more meaningful content
mindlessly clearing BWL every week isn't meaningful, it's just more grinding. at least retail has actual bosses lmao.
Buddy, everything in retail is a timegate not just the raids. You have to grind mythic raids for years between patches for minute gear upgrades so you can grind it slightly easier the next week. None of that progress translates to getting an edge in pvp either. You're wasting your life even more than nostalgiagays ever did.
Not to mention that there really is no satisfaction anymore when you get something.
>everyone has to get legendaries
>everyone has to see the endgame content
>everyone has to get the endgame item skins
If I remember correctly then starting with MoP you could literally loot rares and even epics off the ground and even send them to your alts. And the endgame sets were all the same except recolored for harder modes.
Fricking exciting.
>If I remember correctly then starting with MoP you could literally loot rares and even epics off the ground and even send them to your alts.
you can do that in vanilla you fricking moron. did you really not know that world mobs can drop BoE purples?
I'm not talking about "world drops". You can literally loot them off the ground without any fighting at all, wowtroon.
>You can literally loot them off the ground without any fighting at all, wowtroon.
you mean like in chests, which are also in vanilla, and can also drop purples?
Why are you literally just making shit up? At least play the game before pretending to critique it.
You know i'm right. What sense of accomplishment are you getting for grinding the same raiding content for half a year, sometimes more than a year between patch releases? At least back in vanilla, TBC, and Wrath, that raid gear had some pvp use. Now it doesn't. So you're literally just wasting your time raiding every fricking week in retail. Then you have to do your shitty dailies every day on top of that.
>You know i'm right.
No, a good 70% of your post is made up nonsense.
>So you're literally just wasting your time raiding every fricking week in retail.
this seems like a projection that disingenuously ignores how many people raid for the sake of raiding, in both classic and retail. treating pve as a means to an end for pvp content is an incredibly niche way to play the game and always has been.
>ignores how many people raid for the sake of raiding
bullshit. raid participation is already at an all time low and its where you get the strongest gear. make equivalent ilvl gear drop from world quests and watch as basically everyone does a raid once to experience the content and then never again
less than 5% of the game's population does arena.
Because Arenas were always shit and it was always for e-sports gays or people who just wanted better pvp gear for battlegrounds or world pvp.
>unironically thinks wpvp is good content
lmao. i didn't think there was anyone this stupid left.
It used to be, back when WoW was much better. Retail zoomies like you don't know the good times.
>It used to be
No, it has always been dogshit. The only people who enjoy it are griefers.
>The only people who enjoy it are griefers.
Ah ok, so now I understand your gripe with it. You were one of those dumbass nooblet kids that got ganked by some rogue in STV once so you pussied out and rerolled to a pve server. What a megahomosexual lmao.
>You were one of those dumbass nooblet kids that got ganked by some rogue in STV once so you pussied out and rerolled to a pve server.
No, I'd usually beat griefers. Just saying that they're the only ones who enjoy wPVP, because they're naturally sociopathic.
You're such a vegana bud. Actual walking pussy.
Why? Because I steamroll sociopathic players who think they'll win if I'm already fighting 2 mobs?
>Because I steamroll sociopathic players
Sure you do kid. Talking big on an anonymous imageboard is pretty easy.
I do. At first I thought you were a jaded classic andy, but now I realize you're just awful at the game.
Not him but classic is fricking great. The frick are you smoking, you crazed c**t?
>Not him but classic is fricking great.
sure, if you're into pathetically easy content classic is definitely for you. won't deny that.
I'm not the one who pussies out of wpvp out of fear of "griefers".
I don't, I've always played on PVP servers. "pussying out" of wpvp is just part of the narrative you made up.
I don't grief people, because I'm not autistic, but it's always fun killing the griefers who attack me and then teabagging their corpses.
>but it's always fun killing the griefers who attack me and then teabagging their corpses.
That's part of wpvp too and that makes it fun also. So why are you shitting on wpvp again? Some of the most memorable moments in WoW for me have been fighting gankers and starting ganking and counter ganking wars in Hillsbrad and STV or other zones.
>That's part of wpvp too and that makes it fun also.
I don't consider it interesting content, let alone the primary reason to play the game. It's only fun in the context of making sociopaths upset.
>So why are you shitting on wpvp again?
Because it's awful content.
Why don't you reroll on a pve server then homosexual. Why are you on a pvp server in the first place if you hate wpvp?
i rolled on a pvp server in the original vanilla because i didn't know any better. i rolled on a pvp server in classic because that's where my friends are.
thankfully our server is like 98% horde, so it might as well be a PVE server.
retail doesn't have pvp servers anymore, but i still turn on warmode for the reward bonuses.
Oh, thanks for reminding me why retail sucks dick and all the players who still play are massive homosexuals.
You genuinely can't make arguments without sperging out like a lunatic. It's so sad.
>Talking big on an anonymous imageboard is pretty easy.
>you're such a vegana bud. actual walking pussy
you can't make this level of cognitive dissonance up.
I never claimed to be good at anything, i'm just calling that poster and (you) massive pussies for being afraid of wpvp because you got "griefed" one time and that gave you PTSD.
the only people who do wpvp are people who are too dogshit to win in fair fights. you can spot the type from a mile away.
>mindlessly clearing BWL every week isn't meaningful
people didn't just mindlessly clear dungeons every week, the game used to be fun outside of just logging in once a week you zoomer
>people didn't just mindlessly clear dungeons every week, the game used to be fun outside of just logging in once a week you zoomer
there's nothing to do in vanilla outside of raids, pvp, and mindless grinding. it's just like retail but slower.
>raids, pvp, and mindless grinding
What else is there that's worth doing in retail between waiting for your shitty timegates to reset?
completionist content, which barely exists in classic. to be fair this falls under mindless grinding, but so does 100% of the content in classic.
>completionist content,
Sorry i'm not autistic.
Autism is the only thing that allows people to enjoy non-raid content in classic, so I'm pretty sure you are.
I don't play classic either. I had my fun at launch for vanilla classic but it's a conquered game and the community isn't at all like what I remember. That doesn't mean retail is good, in fact it's shit.
>the game used to be fun outside of just logging in once
lmao no it fricking didn't. classic is the most raidlogged version of the game by far.
True and based. Retail zoomers have no counterargument since everything they do now is even more grindy and meaningless.
yeah man i loved spending 1000s of gold on frost pots for naxx, shut up moron i will never play that version of the game again.
Was the Dragon Isles ever a real place in Warcraft lore or did they just make it up? I thought most of the dragons just lived in Northrend.
just as made up as everything else. its fiction, anon
I am sick of new areas just being random ass islands though. give me a new continent somewhere
>Was the Dragon Isles ever a real place in Warcraft lore or did they just make it up?
None of the places in Warcraft lore are real. Are you moronic?
It was mentioned in the "leaked expansion list" back in like WoTLK/Cata, so it's at the very least been an idea for a while
you can see here "Designer Island" (a hidden area that was in the game) actually contained a model that is pretty similar to some Dragon Isles artwork from a loooong time ago:
https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Isles
Looks good
Day one buy
>tfw shadowlands was the first expansion since tbc I totally skipped and was never tempted to try for a month
feelin like a big man
Its really bad, its WOD but worse
I've kind of warmed up to WoD tbh. Of course it was barren and unfinished with the worst launch in blizzard history, but what little content it had was actually good. The zone quests were cool and their story was generally decent or at least non offensive, there was a lot of cinematics, the aesthetics and music were great, the dungeons were okay, Highmaul was a good raid and Blackrock Foundry was amazing. Even the garrison was a fun distraction, at least until the metagays ruined it. The expansion could have been good, if they didn't replace all non-raid max level content with the mission table and kill it off by the time 6.1 came out.
Seeing BFA and shadowlands you don't see even those redeeming qualities. It's all timegated borrowed power garbage that's based on reusing Legion mechanics like m+ and artifacts but doing it worse. The awful story and all the political pandering don't help either.
Your wrong, Anon. Blizzard removed the gender option in the character creation! That will surely bring back all the subs! Stop being so pessimistic.
blizz is trying so hard to forget shadowlands lmao
It would not surprise me if there's more nostalgiagays playing classic than retail at this point.
You underestimate how much that dragon thing arouses the average scaly/furgay. This is going to be the most popular expac for turbo degenerates since MoP. Given that Blizz is also trying to pander hard towards trannies and gays they're really going all in on ERP audience. I suspect RP servers are going to have the biggest pop distribution if they don't already.
I accept this game isn’t made for me anymore. I wish them well with their new target audience.
Why would you wish Blizzard well? You should be hoping they all lose their jobs and catch monkeypox.
>WoW is DEEAAAAADDDD
yet people still play it. And you keep posting this, year after year.
People still play EverQuest. They still make expansions for it.
god i wish people would shitpost about eq. thats some autism i would participate in
the only content blizzdrones have is complaining about worlo
And thats a good thing. Wow has no future in the hands of devs who don't even play or test their own games.
WOW IS BACK, DRAGONFLIGHT IS GONNA BE MMO KINO FF14 IS FINISHED
I'll still check it out. I always enjoy WoW expansion launches even if I stop playing a month or two in. The gameplay is still very fun, especially compared to its main competitors.
XIVtards can't deny the fact that Asmongold would rather play WoW than their shit game
Asmongold is an addict and a fricking bum.
We don't like this gay and his mongoloid community anyway.
You seem pretty asshurt right now, XIVgay
Yes because since this butthole plays the game we have to deal with wowgay.
Yesterday his stream said playing WoW but he was just talking to chat and browsing Dragonflight news articles.
>tranvestites of warcraft copy features of guild wars 2 did in 2017
so innovative! can't even implement the physics
wow is dead shovelware and the subs mentally ill
>nooooo WoW can't just add fun mechanics
>they're not allowed!!!!!!
Do you think GW2 is a totally original game or something?
>it's fun therefore we copy everything into our dead mmo
you LITERALLY go against what everything WoW stands for you mentally ill troony, you chage the entire flow of the game
those nu-devs are mind broken and burned they have no fricking idea how to add worthwhile content
dragonflight looks so barren it's EMBARRASSING
Flying and mounts in general were the biggest mistake GW2 ever made.
nah it's litty af
Dragons themselves are always an okay theme. But instead of adding an actually cool looking dragonkin race they added some furry/scalie fantasy bullshit.
Either way even the most addicted homosexuals are starting to understand that WoW is beyond saving. You cant salvage 10 years of shit in one expansion.
Yup, the new race design was very obviously meant to appeal to a certain degenerate fandom. It's funny since the same kind of troglodytes that pander to a hyper sexualized fandom involving animal people will complain about regular human females or elves, or goat women being sexualized.
Furry races have always been in the game, Tauren, and if you want to go further, any druid character
If you can't tell the difference between Tauren and Vulpera or the new Dragon race then you're trying to gaslight or you're genuinely moronic as frick.
Tauren aren't sexualized in the same way because they're large, sure, but they're still a furry race, they still appeal to a furry demographic, they just happen to be baragays instead of foxgays or shortstack chads
>Tauren
Mommy energy and milkers
Bottom/Uke bara bait
>Vulpera
Shortstack
kawaii uguu
super corporate
>New dragon race
Way too safe
Looks too much of a toothpick to appeal for fujos
Datamined lava dragon looks more burly and manly than any player character dragon
What do I win?
I always laughed at these gays tornado-ing their weapons whenever they moved faster than a brisk walk.
Jesus Christ, is this just the Tauren model with barely any adjustments to make it look like a burly man with a dragon face? How fricking lazy can you be to make this? It’s sad that an April fools joke is more creative than any actual content they’ve come out with in over a decade.
are you dumb?
I want to frick the dragons.
Hopefully Microsoft sorts things out once the accusation has been fully completed.
Still gonna play it. As long as they don't frick up PvP (which would be hard at this point) I'm good with it.
>they don't frick up PvP
dumb frick
It was over for WoW in 2005 newbie.
I can't even imagine the "people" still paying sub for this shit
there is simply no fricking way someone is doing it ouf of his free will
I refuse to believe it
I want to frick the dragon daddies but it's not enough to make me buy it or resub
I will play on PTR
if a body type 1 tauren frick a body type 2 dragon what will the child looks like ?
Sneedolands killed WoW, this is merely defiling the already rancid corpse
Anyone get any screenshots of the comments section, or was it mysteriously locked by default?
Locked by default to prevent wrongthink
kind of like all conservative social media?
can we all agree american politics is bullshit and that both parties are evil?
both of the major parties are evil, but one is less evil than the other.
an evil is still an evil anon, nuke the system to get rid of evil
No, it's obviously more nuanced than that.
>"Stupid troons ruining my game"
>"This ain't inclusive enough!"
>"Isn't this just a scapegoat to hide Blizzard's bullshit for the past few years? What if the game was never good to begin with?"
It's always locked when it comes down to topics about inclusivity and diversity because it'll be flooded with comments like that.
Usually with these things they pre-lock the comments so that the woke cult crap the "journos" agree with doesn't get criticized.
My own state propaganda agency does the same any time they push a propaganda piece they know the average person disagrees with. It's to better insulate the cultists and the public from being exposed to opinions that counteract the propaganda.
Is that why conservative social media is so much more draconian and quick to ban you than shit like twitter?
Dunno what "conservative social media" you're talking about but if they do that too I think it's just as cowardly.
Now what? Did you think i'd come out and defend censorship when conservatives to do it or are you just trying to deflect away from left wing censorship?
>Dunno what "conservative social media" you're talking about
Parler, Truth Social, Topline, MeWe, etc.
So some literal who sites with barely any traffic and hardly any social or political influence, gotcha.
And this means twitter, reddit, facebook, etc are justified in censoring wrongthink because?
They're the largest conservative social media platforms. What rock have you been living under?
>They're the largest conservative social media platforms
Still tiny compared to liberal platforms
>What rock have you been living under?
I don't pay attention to small and irrelevant conservative social media platforms. I'm not on them and I don't care about them. Why do you?
https://www.mmo-champion.com/content/10712-Inclusivity-Updates-in-Dragonflight-Body-Type-Names-New-Pronouns-and-Voice-Options?#comments
Enjoy.
>got to 1300+ replies before lock
impressive
>really? if anything "you people" are exhausting, pushing your mental disorder onto healthy normal people, warping the minds of young impressionable teens and young adults, Calling people "Transphobes" for being normal healthy human beings is just flat wrong.
I bet this comment will get taken down i have no doubt because the people this effects will get mad about the truth, i might even get banned, but it had to be said.
>Infracted for Hateful Language.
Lmao
It's true
100% of the content in classic is braindead.
No it isn't. Play retail and then go play on turtle or something and tell me that the vanilla gameplay didn't require more thought from the player in terms of combat as well as managing quests and traveling the world.
>the vanilla gameplay didn't require more thought from the player in terms of combat
This is correct, Vanilla combat is completely braindead. I don't know anything about turtle, we're talking about actual WoW, not mods.
>as well as managing quests and traveling the world.
Neither retail or vanilla have interesting or difficult quests. The only meaningful difference is that vanilla takes 200 hours of grinding and retail takes 30.
Retail is always grinding, wtf are you talking about. The whole game is basically mobile tier timegates
you're not wrong. classic is always grinding too, it's just frontloaded instead of at the endgame. although, you have plenty of mindless grinding to do in classic too, especially for mandatory raid consumes like shadow protection potions.
>This is correct, Vanilla combat is completely braindead.
We're comparing against retail.
In vanilla everything hit harder, numbers were tuned so it was much harder to take more than two mobs at once, mobs actually used signifcant CC and debuffs on you, your mana bar actually existed, and you actually had to use your utility to survive anything but an intentional one or two pull. Quest mobs were actually a challenge and either required grouping or smart use of your utility abilities.
Retail is like Diablo 3, you pull the whole room and mash all your aoe buttons, your mana never runs out, everything dies and you took no damage. Even if you're dumb and let the whole room wail on you it'll melt through your health about four times slower than it would in vanilla.
You've either never played one or the other if you think this is the same shit.
>Neither retail or vanilla have interesting or difficult quests.
Vanilla quests were actually free roaming quests around the world that you made your own routes for instead of railroaded linear stories bound within individual zones, you also had interesting class and profession quests that added flavor and immersion and gave you really powerful class-tuned rewards. Retail has literally not a single thing like this, you're an idiot.
And it was still braindead, dumbed down baby shit when compared to its predecessors like EQ
>moving the goalposts
I accept your concession
>Yes, vanilla combat is completely braindead compared to retail. You can look at ability use in logs and see that 80-90% of it is just spamming 1 button. I raided all throughout classic and it was pathetically easy compared to even the easiest retail classes.
The game isn't static DPS on a target dummy, moron. You're minimizing the entire game out of the comparison.
>No, they're exactly the same. You click yellow exclamation marks and then collect boar asses from mobs that have no mechanics. I leveled 8 classes to 60 in classic.
If you refuse to actually read my posts and just completely ignore all the points I'm making, I'm not going to bother argument with you.
>The game isn't static DPS on a target dummy, moron
It mostly is, yeah. The bosses require very little movement due to not having any mechanics, so most of the time you are just standing in 1 spot doing your braindead rotation. Again, I've done all of the content in classic on multiple classes, and it is the easiest content in WoW I've ever done by a mile.
>If you refuse to actually read my posts and just completely ignore all the points I'm making, I'm not going to bother argument with you.
You point wasn't correct.
>It mostly is, yeah.
And here you prove you have no fricking clue how the game used to work or even which facet of the game we're talking about
Opinion discarded
>You point wasn't correct.
Then you should actually be able to refute it? Funny how you just ignored it then
>And here you prove you have no fricking clue how the game used to work
How did it "used" to work? How many times do I have to explain to you that I've done all the content on multiple classes?
>Then you should actually be able to refute it?
I did refute it. Are you illiterate? Questing is exactly the same except Classic questing is 1000x slower. I already explained in exceedingly clear terms that leveled 8 classes in classic. The difference in quest design between the two is trivial as frick and neither require anything resembling brain power.
Considering you think the entire game is raid DPS, you're full of shit.
>I did refute it. Are you illiterate?
No you didn't, you just blindly denied and didn't respond to the points I made. That is not refuting something.
>Considering you think the entire game is raid DPS,
I don't think that at all, and never said anything like that either.
>No you didn't
I did.
>I don't think that at all, and never said anything like that either.
The only points of comparison you gave were standing still DPSing a boss, which is not the game
>I did.
You didn't
>We're comparing against retail.
Yes, vanilla combat is completely braindead compared to retail. You can look at ability use in logs and see that 80-90% of it is just spamming 1 button. I raided all throughout classic and it was pathetically easy compared to even the easiest retail classes.
>Vanilla quests were actually free roaming quests around the world that you made your own routes for
No, they're exactly the same. You click yellow exclamation marks and then collect boar asses from mobs that have no mechanics. I leveled 8 classes to 60 in classic.
t. PvE gays
Vanilla PVP design is dogshit too. Wrath to MoP were the only time PVP was any good in this game.
After they nerfed DK's at least
>Vanilla PVP design is dogshit too.
That's your opinion but imo it's unique. Consumables (ignoring the fact you've got to farm them) give a lot of depth. Mana actually matters. Many gear builds possible, trinket and item swapping. Only time in the game where world pvp is relevant. Warsong is only good in vanilla and playing team vs team is super cool. Random queue with friends is fun too. Game is too one shoty in the later phases but early on if you have the correct gear that's good HP and low dmg, great for duels.
>Wrath to MoP were the only time PVP was any good in this game.
If you like Arena that is. Peak was MoP actually. But if it's not your cup of tea or want to do something else there is just mindless BGs with bots.
>Only time in the game where world pvp is relevant.
wPVP was more relevant in TBC because you actually got something out of it.
No one pvped at Halaa, maybe a bit at the very start of TBC but that's it. People kept getting atleast buffs or farm stuff during the entirety of vanilla. Loved gatekeeping Dire Maul with one or two boons. MCing hordes off the cliff at Felwood. So much good shit to do.
>Loved gatekeeping Dire Maul with one or two boons. MCing hordes off the cliff at Felwood.
This isn't pvp, it's just griefing. Only the mentally ill enjoys that.
Hehe sorry gay if you can't defend yourself 5v2 you got to pay the corpsewalk toll to get your buffies.
>t. the mentally ill
Seething. Vanilla is not for you sorry gay it's a dangerous world out there.
no it isn't, it's the most pathetically easy version of WoW.
Easy if you are a PvE gay. It's okay you just didn't experience the best part about the game.
Someone got MCed off a zeppelin
Are you hyped for pronouns?
WoW has always had pronouns
(you)
subhuman addicts kept playing through cata, mop, wod, legion, bfa, shadowlands, and you think next expansion is going to be the one that finally makes them quit? these freaks will keep playing it until literally the day they die
wpvp has never been good.
alliance detected
alliance players always complain about pvp no matter the context. they are legit babies.
they are mad the same way incels are about black superiority
>this whole post
I physically cringed irl. If that's the average wowbuck in 2022 thank god I'm not playing this trash anymore.
>wow thread
>mentally ill troony talking about black dick
have a nice day
surprised no porn artist bothered coming up with a fake porn company called BLACKROCKED
Alliance is indeed whiny af. But worldpvping as one is satisfying. Hordes tend to get wienery when dominating. Nothing like catching them offguard and ruin their precious buffies. Frick I miss vanilla classic
>like 12 alliance players
>entire 40 man raid of horde camping a boat in an alliance zone for no reason
do hordeBlack folk really
It's funny
the reason alliance has never been able to pvp is that they have (1) cool race, Dwarfs.
I thought Alliance was good at pvp because of the free trinket
That's only in wotlk for humans. Before that they have perception which can be good in arena depending on class. Female human also has some advantages for walljumps in warsong.
it's unironically looking good and i am hyped to play wow again until whenever i get bored of it and also i like other mmos and will play them too.
>3 different friends within last 48 hours have sent me the same article about Blizzard devs deeming words male and female as problematic and instead using body types to describe sex of your character, allowing players to use custom pronouns (and most likely banning people who won't obey them)
What has WoW become... It's now literally embarrassing to play or talk about this game among my peers.
Dev team got infiltrated by soi golems and furries
>now
With how furry corrupted all the graphics have been becoming I saw this change from a mile away
SIGN IT, CHUD!!!
Isn't that literally just the Terms and Conditions you have to accept before you play a multiplayer game anyways? What's the difference, or do they want something that more explicitly demands ideological and behavioural conformity?
>read the contract
>doesn't mention i can't throw molotov wienertails at the blizz hq
anyone got like 45 bottles of beer?
Any decent Wotlk or TBC servers to just chill on and maybe play some PVP?
Alternatively Vanilla but I can't stand x1 leveling on vanilla privs, it sucks to lose so much progress and time when server inevitably resets or dies because freshgays leave after 1 month.
To me privs and older expansions basically boiled down to better community which was okay with doing random shit for no particular reason or optimized reward.
Shit like this has 1000 times more soul than your minmaxed retail raidlogging maze:
verycoolguy in general is peak soul and showcases what I used to like about privs before classic came out.
WoW is dead, retail is trash, classic is full of trash people, privs are dead unless you want to play with 50 y/o boomers paying for smourne on p2w servers.
I present to you: SOUL
It's much like the real world though. When money gets involved and things become "played out"(soulless) or algorithmic, people generally don't have as much fun. I'm fairly convinced at this point that society is going to collapse just because of the sheer overexposure to every single novel experience.
wow, so 2 expansions in a row i've skipped.
i think i'm out bros. and since quitting wow stuff has been happening in my life which means its now unfeasible to fit wow into my schedule. sad
>character select has pronoun choice and voice choice (male with female voice)
it is 100% over.
Dragonflight ? More like Dragonblight
Maybe they need to add a car race so they can have dragons fricking cars
It'll only be dead when no one even cares to make threads like this anymore.
Dont care, still playing TurtleWoW.
What would you pick, anon?
>Body 1
>Body 2
Remember and be inclusive
I still don't understand why male and female is considered offensive. It's literally a biological reality no one can escape from and i also thought they acknowledged that gender and sex are different. Are they denying that sex is real now too?
It's not, for most people, but vocal deranged leftists must change language for 0.01% of the population who are mentally ill
>Chat shits on Men along with every major media company 24/7.
>Complain about there being so many Incels.
Oh yeah, poking that angry future mass shooter sure won't bring on any consequences.
that's what the media and the feds wanna do, split up the masses by making rightcucks look evil while libtards are seen as the good ones.
One of these Incels or a group of 'em will do more damage than they're worth and it'll be the troony Left's fault. It's just a matter of time.
I'm impressed by how Blizzard is trying to pander to furries AND wokies. I wouldn't assume there's much overlap between those groups
Why would you think not? Furries are extreme sexual deviants and wokies approve of sexual deviance. What they despise is normal sexuality which is why they get triggered when they see attractive women or really any romantic relationship that is considered traditional or normal.
People actually thinking that classic raiding is hard at all is just the most moronic thing I have ever read.
I take that you are a shitter that never cleared any relevant retail mythic content.
inb4 pvp
I got glad 4 times since legion and I dislike pvp, just did it for the mounts and mogs.
>People actually thinking that classic raiding is hard at all is just the most moronic thing I have ever read.
yeah, people who think classic raiding is hard must be some of the dumbest people alive.
Classic raiding isn't hard, but that is to a large part because a) we have solved all the bosses, the gear, the specs, the raid comps etc. and b) we have had years of practice in progressively more complex content. The same people that need a couple of weeks now to clear the hardest content in retail were those that took a couple of weeks to clear the hardest content back in vanilla, tbc etc. If the game survives another 10 years, people will say shadowlands mythics are a joke and easy mode, for the same reasons that the old raids are.
Vanilla/TBC/WOTLK or frick off Black person
Haven't all of the recent expansions been terrible?
Why do people expect there to be a reasonable difference with this?
I don't even play wow but hear about how trash bfa was and apparently how legion was a massive disappointment.
The game's gameplay core created 18 years ago has been carrying it ever since. Still very pleasant to press buttons. There just isn't anything else like it especially when it comes to competitive PvP. So the real question is why ppl would play nu wow instead of Classic. Reason is PvE is actually challenging there and gameplay more fast paced. I don't play anymore btw.
>new race is literally a BELF made in deviantart
>no good races added apart from Goblins and Dark Irons (which is just a re-skin) since the disneyfication
we've gone over this a thousand times
My problem with the current state of the game is that the lore is beyond dead.
Even if they somehow fixed the game loop and stopped with the moronic grindfest, I no longer have any interests on what's happening (after going to their ass pulled afterlife, it's clear they don't even know where to go with the setting).
Asmondgold seems to think otherwise OP he says it's the best shit he's ever seen.
Doesn't he always say that
Of course he does, he obviously wants to cash in on release hype. Then he'll just go back to complaining how the game is shit like BFA and Shadowlands for easy views.
I'm not playing a game with Type 1 Type 2 bodies, pronoun selection, and optional cross-sex voices.
why? i thought words didn't offend conservatives.
>1 game 2 artstyles
>tell me the artist is a furry without telling me the artist is a furry
that wolf makes me horny, why the frick didnt anyone tell me WoW was adding sexy dogs and dragon daddies?
ez sub
You will get the dragon twink and you will like it.
I know I will.
>Pronouns datamined
>gender switched to body type
>female voice on male chars datamined
No thanks, I refunded DF pre order on the spot and uninstalled. This isn't warcraft anymore.
I know a few people have already pointed this out, but why does EVERYTHING in the alpha looks so fricking flat?
Everything looks like when you apply a simple texture to an object in Blender. No Shading, no Ambient Occlusion, No Normal Maps, no nothing. Looks like fricking plastic toys under a bright fluorescent. Was it always like this?
So what is there to do at max level in Dragonflight? Please dont say its only
>7 dungs
>mythic+
>1 raid on 7 difficulties 3 weeks after launch
Surely there is something else? Surely it must launch with more content than SL?
Wasn't wotlk about dragons already?
Only a small part of it where we went to kill Malygos, you're thinking of Cataclysm
I remember that because last time I played wow (wotlk) there was a dragon on login screen and there was a dungeon where you fly dragons around the level
I absolutely despise the current state of the game (which Dragonflight makes zero effort to fix), but if they had done real dragons as a playable race I would have set it all aside and given my support to the game just for the RP purposes. Instead they didn't commit, dracthyr are cringe queer-pandering transracials that don't have ties to any dragonflight. They look like shit and don't fit in the lore. Quite literally "fake and gay".