>WoW takes place in Azeroth. >FFXIV takes place in "Eorzea"

>WoW takes place in Azeroth
>FFXIV takes place in "Eorzea"
care to explain?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Zelda takes place in Hyrule
    >GTA Vice City takes place in Vice City
    care to explain?

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Wow takes place in a world named after the main continent of warcraft 1, Azeroth, which is the southern part of the larger landmass now called the eastern kingdoms composed by Lordaeron, Quel'Thalas and Azeroth.

    FFXIV takes place in the region of Eorzea, which is located in the western bit of the large northern landmass called Aldenard, which is neighbored by the supernation of Garlemald, in Ilsabard, and the western side of the continent called Othard, also fractured in lesser countries like Eorzea. Scholars have a really bad time trying to decide what name to call the world from time to time.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >named after the main continent of warcraft 1, Azeroth,
      Reminder Blizzard literally stole the name Azeroth
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fires_of_Azeroth

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Reminder Square Enix literally stole the name Eorzea

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >using an old word no one uses anymore is the same as explicitly stealing from another piece of media
          l o l

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          No it's good thing, blizzard are at their best when they shameless steal. What fricked them over was that they were the big dogs and there was nowhere to look for "inspiration".

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          wait til you find out what the entire final fantasy franchise has been calling their summons

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Etheirys, we have the name now. The whole star is called Etheirys.

      Named after its riches resource: Aether.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        only gays call it by that name, the planet is, and shall forever be known as Hydaelyn

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's Etheirys to the Scions who are probably the only people on the planet that know it's called that. To 99.99% of the planet it's still called Hydaelyn.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          In 1.0 most of the planet didn't even know the planet had a name at all. That was all spread by Scion newsletters in the 5 years between 1.0 and ARR. Everyone will use Etheirys by 7.0.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It was the jailmaster that teleported the elves to vahalla

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >WoW had to literally steal FFXIV story to stay relevant
    Care to explain?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What story did they steal? Generic fantasy motifs that could be in anything?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I'm guessing OP is trying to point out that Azeroth and Eorzea both... Use the same vowels and a Z and R.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      And the gameplay, and the way the game is displayed, the ui, the way players interact with enemies and allies, collectibles, 'dungeons', the trinity based gameplay and so much more.

      And despite having a great thing to copy they couldn't nail down why WoW feels great to play or interesting class design or go beyond what WoW doesn't do. Just disappointment.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >And the gameplay, and the way the game is displayed, the ui, the way players interact with enemies and allies, collectibles, 'dungeons', the trinity based gameplay and so much more.
        Why do FFXIV players pretend WoW stole all of this, but ignore the fact that FFXIV stole it even more shamelessly than WoW did?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          FFXIV players think WoW is just an Everquest clone. they've never actually played Everquest, though. FFXIV is far more of a WoW clone than WoW is an Everquest clone. Pic related.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            WoW is what happens when you take a game like Everquest and splice in the rarity system from Diablo.
            t. Used to play Evercrack for 2 years on and off when it first came out

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            WoW made things more casual compared to EverQuest, like not deleting your gear if you fail to recover your corpse, which respects the player’s time.

            FFXIV made things more casual compared to WoW, like allowing you to teleport anywhere and fall damage doesn’t kill you. Thus respecting the player’s time.

            WoW developers routinely show their contempt for the concept of respecting the player’s time. They don’t allow you to fly until a year into the expansion + make you do pointless rep grinds for it. Also, the covenant system was clearly broken but they refused to fix it for so long because muh roleplaying experience.

            FFXIV continues to streamline the player experience as much as possible, whereas WoW just makes things more moronic because they know you’ll slurp up their slop regardless.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >FFXIV continues to streamline the player experience as much as possible
              and FFXIV players unironically think this is a good thing lmao

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                XIV's selling point is that it's the MMO for people who like JRPGs but dislike MMOs.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              "respecting players time" is only an issue if your game sucks and is not fun to play. mmos can "waste" your time as long as the moment to moment experience is fulfilling. modern mmos are shit and unfun games that shower you with milestones to complete to keep you engaged.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Moment to moment gameplay is significantly more fun in WoW, to be fair. Moment to moment gameplay in FFXIV is reading text boxes and doing 1/4th of your single target rotation before the mob in the purple circle dies.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This anon gets it. Grinding and tedium can be fun if the gameplay that it involves is fun and engaging. It only becomes an issue when the game, at its core, is not fun. "Streamlining" is just the developer's round-about way of admitting that certain aspects of their game are not fun or engaging.

                When Valheim was the FOTM, no one b***hed about transporting goods - which sounds tedious, because it was involved and required navigating terrain or the seas - or better yet building roads and ship ways to make transport easier.

                Today's MMORPGs are just shit games at their core with no real novelty because every other genre does the tidbits of gameplay that MMORPGS offer better.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >tedium can be fun

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >ffxiv player crumbles under the weight of the concept of having to play the game to be rewarded

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >ffxiv player

                ffxiv has plenty of tedium tho

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Is doing the same mindless daily quest for a month really good gameplay, blizzdrone?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        To say WoW invented collectibles is very silly. And WoW did not invent tab targetting, if that's what you mean by "the way players interact with enemies and allies".

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          WoW didn't invent collectibles, but it was the first MMO to feature collectibles as casual content. The difference between TBC and Wrath in terms of collecting as a playstyle is massive, and FFXIV only iterates on those concepts that wrath introduced.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            in addition to this, WoW invented transmog, which is also a concept that FFXIV shamelessly copied.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              also the duty finder (dungeon matchmaking) was a WoW idea.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              WoW took "transmog" from guild wars 2's transmute system.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >in addition to this, WoW invented transmog, which is also a concept that FFXIV shamelessly copied.
              I fricking wish FFXIV would shamelessly copy Blizzard's transmog system.
              Some aspects like a glamour plates are great, but the collection part of XIV's transmog system is fricking atrocious and in dire need of an overhaul.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I fricking wish FFXIV would shamelessly copy Blizzard's transmog system.
                They shamelessly copied it with an objectively worse iteration lol

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                Anonymous
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                Anonymous
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                Anonymous
              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >wowbuck going to try this shit again
                don't even bother, theres WAY more trans wowgays and they've infested every level of WoW from the playerbase up to the devs

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >theres WAY more trans wowgays
                ffxiv players actually believe this lmao

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                cope

                Isn't Quin69 a big wowhead and FF14 hater?

                Yes, hes the moron that bought a level boost and story skip, went into a raid, died because he didn't know any mechanics, quit, then started making up stories about getting death threats

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >then started making up stories about getting death threats

                Why does everyone do this?
                "kys" isn't a fricking death threat.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                the difference is wow is ran by trannies
                xiv is played by trannies (wow too)

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Oh yeah, if Trans Lives Matter then how come 42% of Trans people are killed by Trans people?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If it's objectively worse then it's not a shameless copy you fricking moron. A shameless copy would at least be as good.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        when will WoWcucks understand that they lost

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >builder spendercraft
        >interesting class design
        Wowbucks stay losing lmao

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >why WoW feels great to play
        BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >WoW feels great to play

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          XIV with WoWs responsiveness in gameplay would be incredible. It's a shame that a game with a decent combat system is shackled the abysmal fight and class design

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >XIV with WoWs responsiveness in gameplay would be incredible.
            not really. XIV would still have boring as frick AoE, boring as frick utility, boring as frick movement abilities, etc. you'd still be doing 99% single target rotations for all gameplay.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah which is an improvement over WoW's absolutely god fricking awful class rotations.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Did you even read my post? You didn't address anything I said and just repeated the same FFXIV moron talking point.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >the AoE rotation is so boring
                It's boring in WoW too
                >the utility is so bad
                It's been homogenized to shit in WoW too
                >you just do your single target rotation
                Just like in WoW
                >boring as frick movement abilities
                I'll give you that really only DRG and NIN have interesting movement mechanics

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I can tell how fricking terrible you are at WoW just from reading this post.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >no argument

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I've played both games extensively and prefer XIV more overall but its pointless to try talking about the combat in this game with the community.
        People here have been so thoroughly brainwashed by playing this game and nothing else for too long and do not realize just how fricking laggy shit feels compared to nearly every other MMO on the market. Half the challenge of mastering your rotation in XIV is playing around the shittiest engine you'll ever see in a MMO and garbage arbitrary animation lock that, for example, won't allow you to go over double weaving, or has some meme shit interaction with server ticks.

        That's not even going into just how unbelievably shit of a job the devs have been doing since Shadowbringers with job "design", it's like they're intentionally running eveything into the ground for no reason except perhaps making their own balancing work easier. They want every job within each role to be the exact same 2 mins looping soulless garbage so none will be excluded ever and everyone will be happy and smile forever (it's moronic because 1.people never get excluded based on their job in XIV and 2.even with good balancing people in this game feverishly obsess over negligible 2% DPS differences between jobs played 100% optimally on a training dummy). The XIV devs, in a game in which you can be ANY job on the SAME CHARACTER, decide to make EVERY JOB the same. Do you realize how unbelievably moronic that is?

        Last time I checked in Legion, WoW was better by virtue of not having all this shit baked into it, this is how fricking low the bar is set. But that also applies to shovelware asiaticshit MMO. This is just how bad XIV combat is. Don't bother.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Didn’t read, but you’re wrong. Shut up b***h

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >they couldn't nail down why WoW feels great to play
        WoW is the defintion of a sinking ship
        literally nobody in the last 5 years started playing wow, it was exclusively people who played it in the past continuing to play because they've spent so much time and money on it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i didnt know wrath of the lich king released after shadowbringers

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      anduin breaking free of zovaal's control was some pretty cheeky shit. though i feel it would have been better if Varian and Saurfang hadn't said anything

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >it would have been better if Varian and Saurfang hadn't said anything
        Absolutely, that was the cheekiest shit. But the light works in mysterious ways and it wouldn't be farfetched for a sufficiently light-connected person to break free of control. Tirion prayed to the light while encapsulated in fricking ice and it gave him the power to break free and reckbomb Arthas.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      it also stole PotD and level-sync which it didn't even do properly

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >it also stole PotD
        Torghast is far more similar to Nephalem Rifts in Diablo than it is to PotD.
        >and level-sync which it didn't even do properly
        No, it does it better, because you actually get to play your class instead of having half your buttons taken away.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          copium

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            whatever helps you cope
            you know this is bullshit

            You forgot to make arguments.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              [...]
              You're actually fricking moronic if you think PotD is analogous to torghast
              have a nice day whitey

              samegay

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >still no argument
                Scared.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          whatever helps you cope
          you know this is bullshit

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Nephalem Rifts
          PotD would've come a year earlier.

          >it does it better, because you actually get to play your class instead of having half your buttons taken away
          So it's completely fricking pointless.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Rifts
            >PotD would've come a year earlier.
            So you're claiming that Nephalem rifts copied PotD? Are you joking, or do FFXIV players actually believe this?
            >So it's completely fricking pointless.
            Not sure how you made that leap.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Rifts
              >PotD would've come a year earlier.
              do ffxiv players think ffxiv invented procedurally generated dungeons and that all blizzard's attempts at making them are just copies? i don't know what to make of how stupid your argument here is.

              Fact remains that PotD came first. Cope.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                nice backpedalling

                None of this is an argument.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                neither are

                Rifts
                >PotD would've come a year earlier.
                So you're claiming that Nephalem rifts copied PotD? Are you joking, or do FFXIV players actually believe this?
                >So it's completely fricking pointless.
                Not sure how you made that leap.

                Rifts
                >PotD would've come a year earlier.
                do ffxiv players think ffxiv invented procedurally generated dungeons and that all blizzard's attempts at making them are just copies? i don't know what to make of how stupid your argument here is.

                The only thing I'll give you is removing buttons for level sync is dumb. Doing anything under Lv.70 in FFXIV puts me to sleep.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Rifts
              >PotD would've come a year earlier.
              do ffxiv players think ffxiv invented procedurally generated dungeons and that all blizzard's attempts at making them are just copies? i don't know what to make of how stupid your argument here is.

              nice backpedalling

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Rifts
            >PotD would've come a year earlier.
            do ffxiv players think ffxiv invented procedurally generated dungeons and that all blizzard's attempts at making them are just copies? i don't know what to make of how stupid your argument here is.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        whatever helps you cope
        you know this is bullshit

        You're actually fricking moronic if you think PotD is analogous to torghast
        have a nice day whitey

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      We traveled to another dimension in WoW in TBC years before Shadowbringers
      We traveled to another planet to deal with the big bad in Legion which came out years before Endwalker
      We traveled to an asian themed area in Mists of Pandaria which came out years before Stormblood
      We traveled to an icy land and dealt with dragons in Wrath of the Lich King and Cataclysm years before Heavensward

      What story did WoW steal, exactly?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        i'm reminded of the legion in game cutscene in which your player meets Xe'ra and you're floating in space. i can't find the example as all i get is 'rejection of the gift' but it was very much reminiscent of the echo awakening in the player character early in ARR in 2013

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Xe'ra wanted to purify Illidan of his demonic form and make him lightforged and he just blew her up with his eye lasers. I don't recall anyone nuking Hydaelyn.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            thats not the cutscene i'm referring to. its part of the class quest chain in legion, where you go find a chunk of naaru and store it in your hall, eventually you rebuild xe'ra and she zaps your conciousness away into outer space where she talks to you

            not i specifically said its NOT the 'rejection of the gift' cinematic

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah I know the one you're talking about. So talking to an otherworldly figure while floating in space is the exclusive use of FFXIV and has never been done in any kind of media before ever? Neat.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                so if it happened first in ffxiv its derivative of wider media, but if it happened in wow first its derivative of wow. gotcha

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No. I never claimed FFXIV stole story elements from WoW. I'm just saying WoW specifically DIDN'T steal them from FFXIV. My point is the whole thing is a silly argument in the first place. If someone wants to come up with a very specific example then I would be open to hearing it though. Maybe there is something in Dragonflight that is a beat for beat knock off of something in Heavensward. I don't know.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'd love a xiv/wow crossover.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I really don't care for this WoW-XIV rivalry. Didn't YoshiP once straight up say that back when they were desperately trying to fix the game, they did take a lot of inspiration from WoW and looking at the system that worked in it and that they were thankful? Why are the fanbases to at each other's throats when even the devs show this much respect to each other?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Fanboys. We're both plagued by incompetant devs and will gladly point out the others flaws instead of admitting our own game is flawed and asking the devs to fix it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Didn't YoshiP once straight up say that back when they were desperately trying to fix the game, they did take a lot of inspiration from WoW and looking at the system that worked in it and that they were thankful?
      Yes, YoshiP publicly admits it's a WoW clone and the players still deny it lol

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        ship of Theseus

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >fan of media X makes media Y
      >diehard fans of X hate media Y because they see it as a derivative upstart
      >diehard fans of Y hate X because they see it as old and busted and past its time
      MANY such cases

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    if wow would just take the ffxiv system of you can do everything on one character it would dominate every game.

    I hate fricking alts

    i fricking hate them

    and they always incentivize that playstyle.

    frick you i WANT MY TIME

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That sounds like a terrible idea, how the frick does a warrior suddenly just switch to mage or some shit
      Class fantasy would be broken

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >wow
        >class fantasy
        >after every class has been gutted of all flavor

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >after every class has been gutted of all flavor
          This is completely made up, btw.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >every class with buffs did different things
            >now all buffs are +stam or +5% to all stats
            >classes had skills that existed almost purely for class feel, more of them were even added with glyphs
            >all of those were stripped out to be replaced with 'spam meter builder, then push meter spender'

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              this moron is really pretending classes were more fun to play in wrath lol

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >shill trying this hard to defend all classes in wow being mindless grey mush

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If classes are mindless now, what does that make Wrath classes, which are objectively easier to play optimally?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >talk about class flavor and fantasy
                >hurr durr dey ez to play
                moron

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That's what braindead means, anon. Old WoW classes were hilariously shallow and simple.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                shill-kun
                learn to read
                we are talking about CLASS FANTASY AND FLAVOR

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                What class flavor has been removed, exactly? Mages still blink and time warp. Rogues still stealth. Hunters still tame pets. Druids still shapeshift. Shamans still use totems, etc.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >faction locked classes, horde getting paladins was a big deal to the point that BE paladins lore reasoning was a major part of the faction's story
                >now anyone can be a paladin if you look at the sun or like dinosaurs
                >hunters pets felt like pets having loyalty and liking different foods
                >now they may as well be robots
                >ranged weapons using ammo
                >now all ranged weapons just magically generate arrows and bullets out of thin air
                >ranged weapons had minimum ranges
                >mixing your own poison as rogues
                >stealth being a skill you could get better at to sneak better

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                So you're saying they got rid of a bunch of annoying, unfun bullshit, while keeping all of the actually fun class flavor. Sounds good to me.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >moron praising making the game dumber and more bland

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                all of the weird shit surrounding hunters was becasue they were designed as the solo class, you didn't get many groups because you had literally nothing to offer and instead you had all these minigames to deal with
                but then they designed everything in the game about raiding so they had a class that was just kind of shit at it, so they had to adjust hunter

                this was the same reason why warrior being blatantly the best tank for raids in vanillia almost made sense, paladin/shaman/druid had a way easier time leveling but then hey made leveling less and less of an issue so it just became parts of your class kit you never used

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Anon if your idea of class flavor is just aoe dps buffs, go find a TBC pserver and pick up a shaman.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              MoP was peak class design then Legion came and fricked what was left after WoD by turning them nearly all of them into the same build meter spend meter class. And I doubt DF fixed that despite going back and trying to redo talent trees

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Legion destroyed classes. The fact that there are people that praise that expansion's lore and design blows my mind.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Black person wants to play 1 character
          >only then talks about class fantasy
          Frick off

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          every class has been gutted of all flavor
          meanwhile FFXIV jobs have never had any flavor whatsoever beyond Bard performances.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I hate fricking alts
      Why? WoW collectibles are all account-wide, so it doesn't matter. Leveling in WoW is faster than leveling an alt jobs in FFXIV too.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      except gearing more than one class in ff is cancer due to upgrade mats and raid token costs for weapons
      gearing one class every 8th week on average unless your static is feeling generous is so garbage

      please yoshida reduce weapon costs to 4 tokens and let us use first floor tokens on upgrade mats

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        bis is for parsing reasons only. raid weapons are glamours

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >bis is for parsing reasons only
          You need it to even access ultimates on week 1, moron.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            you can access any ultimate with any ilevel. its just not optimal. optimal == mandatory.

            next?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >you can access any ultimate with any ilevel
              You can access Mythic with any ilvl, but FFXIV players still screech like banshbees about WoW geargating. Next?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                i don't see anyone complaining about wow gearing in this thread

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                So are you blind, or just illiterate?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                link the post for me then?

                also, this discussion is about BiS in ffxiv being for parsing purposes and glamour, please stay on topic

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                i guess he left. oh well. i wanted to know what else i can do with bis other than clear raids faster and show off in limsa

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >endwalker ruined summoner, all you do is spam ruin 3 now

    meanwhile old summoner

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I'm kind of glad dot mage is gone now but its a shame the designers were to lazy to give nu-SMN an actual rotation.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      all jobs are getting dumbed down
      even dragoon got dumbed down
      nobody brings it up though lol

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Does really anyone likes door bosses?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't have an issue with door bosses, but it's fricking stupid that the timer doesn't reset when you get to the door phase.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      door boss?

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    WoW is long dead corpse that is somehow still shuffling on.
    FFXIV just isn't that fun to play.
    I'm not going to play either of them again.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the FFXIV planet is called Etheyrys though

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      True, they did retcon it into that for sure.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      *Hydaelyn

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's the Ancient name. The current name is Hydaelyn. Also sometimes called the Source when in reference to other shards.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Soup

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Really can't wait for Dragonflight release to shit all over final trannasty shitwalker
    FF defence force has been picking up lately since prepatch

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      lol

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Better than afk sitting in town all day

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          thats just a meme but you are going to pretend theres not cities full of afks in wow? lmao

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
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          Anonymous

          lol

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous
          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I've played both WoW and FF14 and both of these webms make me chuckle.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        do wow raids really have promt telling you what to do?

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I wish XIV didn't have their healers so homogenized and gated the most interesting job in the game from practically all the content.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you'll press your 1 button and love it, goy.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How hairy is her pussy?

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    After finally giving 14 a try it's alright I guess even if I've almost completely tuned out everything that isn't the main story and my class quests. Fun for what it is though I guess.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >lord of the rings takes place in middle earth
    >harry potters takes place in hogwarts
    its over WoWbros.................

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    FF14's world building seems more genuine.
    In WoW the planet is called Azeroth, which is also the name of the titan soul within it, Also the name for the kingdom of Azeroth, and then there's Azeroth the continent.
    In FF14 Eorzea is the name of a geopolitical region on the Aldenard continent opposing the forces of Garlemald which resides on the Ilsabard continent.
    The planet is called Hydaelyn by the people of Eorzea, but the ancients called it Etheirys.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >FF14's world building seems more genuine.
      What does that mean? 90% of FFXIV's world is hidden behind invisible walls and you only hear about it in exposition dumps. In WoW you can actually explore the entire game world.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        So you prefer the planet also sharing its name with a continent, and a kingdom on that continent?
        >Hello there, I'm from the planet earth. I live in the nation of earth on the continent of earth.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >So you prefer the planet also sharing its name with a continent, and a kingdom on that continent?
          I'd take that over invisible walls, yeah. This is a video game after all.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Dude, world building means the lore and setting, not the actual explorable world. Besides, what makes the most sense? Being able to fly across an entire continent in minutes, or limiting exploration to certain key areas?
        How does the size of the eastern kingdom even make sense with the size of Kul Tiras in one of the later expansions?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Dude, world building means the lore and setting, not the actual explorable world.
          There's no reason it can't mean both in an interactive video game.
          >Besides, what makes the most sense? Being able to fly across an entire continent in minutes, or limiting exploration to certain key areas?
          I don't really care.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    XIV and WoW friends, tell me your most hated expansion and how bad it shaped the game.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      played wow since classic and XIV since 1.0
      worst expansion for XIV was easily stormblood, its opening and focus on ala mhigo made it a slog to suffer through.
      WoW's worst expansion is a three way tie between warlords, BFA, or floplands. Though cata had the worse change in the game by destroying the classic world and replacing it with the way worse new one

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I wish Blizzard would have given you the option to experience both the old and new versions of the zones, makes no sense to give you plotlines that depend upon having played through prior zones that are now inaccessible.
        A lot of other MMO have done way better jobs of integrating new content into old areas.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >worst story/questing and characters
        >best dungeons/bosses and post content

        stromblood is weird

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      stormblood is my most hated and endwalker i thought was pretty boring but not terrible

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        For being the "finale" it sure didn't feel like it.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I've never played WoW because everything in the game looks like hot garbage. WoW is proof that people generally have shit taste.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I've never played WoW because everything in the game looks like hot garbage.
      Not half as garbage as everything in FFXIV looks, thankfully.

      WoW took "transmog" from guild wars 2's transmute system.

      >WoW took "transmog" from guild wars 2's transmute system.
      This isn't true, WoW added transmog in Cataclysm, which was years before GW2 even launched.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        is that supposed to look particularly bad?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's not "supposed" to look bad, it just looks bad. The lighting, washed out colors, no anti-aliasing, etc, all contribute to it looking outstandingly terrible.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            i didn't ask whether it actually is bad or not i asked if you thought it was supposed to look bad

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >lookmomIposteditagain

          [...]
          it's an autistic shitposter who has posted that image since ShB released
          he's posted it about 5-6 times this weekend alone

          >FFXIV players pretending the game looks good again
          lmao. not even filters can save it.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It looks fine for a Playstation 3 MMO.
            You've been desperately trying this angle for years.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >It looks fine for a Playstation 3 MMO.
              It looks worse than a game from 2004, I'm afraid.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                whatever fits your narrative

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                if you say so

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                hey look, actual color design. why don't ffxiv artists do that?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >color design
                HAHAHAHAHA

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, an important game design element XIV sorely lacks.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >waaahhhhh where are the neon blue furry otherkin!!!!!! why doesn't every zone have a shitty filter over it!!!!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >waaahhhhh where are the neon blue furry otherkin!!!!!
                The nonbinary fairies are on the First, little fella.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >not blue
                >not a furry
                >not otherkin
                sorry to burst your bubble, but wow is the LGBTQ+ game

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                stated at all times that is clearly a she, at no point they sugest gender ambiguity lmao, is literally an elf with wings with no weird shit on her but nice cope, you could pick a different race to make that point if you actually knew what you are talking about

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If your going to post WoW examples next time, use actual good locations. The one you posted was garbage

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                He can't because the last time WoW had good looking zones was 2008

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >lookmomIposteditagain

        is that supposed to look particularly bad?

        it's an autistic shitposter who has posted that image since ShB released
        he's posted it about 5-6 times this weekend alone

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          XIV seems to attract some real nutcases that weren't around until WoW started dying badly

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I'm pretty sure it's the FFXV sperg.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >>I've never played WoW because everything in the game looks like hot garbage.
        >Not half as garbage as everything in FFXIV looks, thankfully.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Lol I don't even have to noclip out of bounds to make FFXIV look like dogshit like you did here.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >clip out of bounds
            thats the average view from hyjal just with the N64 fog turned off

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              No it isn't, you can literally see Sulfurion's Spire way the frick down there. Stop making shit up.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            SOVL

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >1080p

            Is this a console screenshot or a potato PC screenshot? It doesn't look nearly this bad on my machine.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          whoa this picture made me nostalgic in a way I rarely ever am.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I've never played WoW and I wish XIV's world was more like this.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          this looks incredible

          Lol I don't even have to noclip out of bounds to make FFXIV look like dogshit like you did here.

          this looks like dogshit

          i play ffxiv because modern day wow is dogshit (and i already played the old expacs on release) though

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The only people who argue that WoW's playable game world is worse than FFXIV's have had their minds rotted by the cult.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              amazing generic forest

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                post another forest that looks like that lol

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                anon this uses a completely different color scheme and completely different types of trees. are you moronic?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              it's better because it has no invisible walls or loading screens, it's not even a contest

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              it's better because it has no invisible walls or loading screens, it's not even a contest

              very true. but in the first place if you're playing these games for their open world in 2022 you're doing it wrong

              which is such a sad thing to have to say. what happened to mmos being centered around the open world? wow happened, i know

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Was nice playing Vanilla Classic and feeling that world mattering again. Never again though I suppose. Maybe Riot MMO will see how bad unrestricted TPs, flying mounts and 90% instance based gameplay are?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >but in the first place if you're playing these games for their open world in 2022 you're doing it wrong
                Yeah, nobody has claimed that the only reason to play WoW is the objectively superior open world. It is one of the reasons to play it, though.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                there's no reason to play wow in 2022.

                unless you're playing classic vanilla/tbc/wrath on a private server because you never got to in its heyday.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >there's no reason to play wow in 2022.
                Of course there is, it's one of the only good tab target games left, especially for raiding.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                modern wow raids are difficult, but god are they boring. i can't imagine playing any expac past pandaria even just to raid.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >modern wow raids are difficult, but god are they boring.
                WoW raids are significantly more fun than FFXIV raids for me. FFXIV raids feel more like an exercise in rote memorization.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                fair enough, to each their own i suppose.

                i still wish there was something better than either, they both feel lackluster in their own way i just prefer ff's all in all.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >what happened to mmos being centered around the open world?
                >wow happened, i know
                WoW was one of the first mmos to even have an open world, you complete moron. Even Everquest 99 has FFXIV-style loading screens between areas.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >WoW was one of the first mmos to even have an open world
                Moron
                >Even Everquest 99 has FFXIV-style loading screens between areas.
                Open world doesn't mean it doesn't have loading screens. Open world refers to the huge, consistent world that's open to explore as you please.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Open world refers to the huge, consistent world that's open to explore as you please.
                Which MMOs barely had before WoW, yeah. EQ areas are fricking tiny and broken apart by loading screens lol

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You're not understanding. Open world has nothing to do with loading screens, it refers to the persistent, explorable world. Loading screens do not factor into it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >open world
                >loading screen between continents
                >modern wow has mandatory flight paths that disguise loading times

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >between continents
                No, between literal adjacent areas. Please actually play EQ before spreading misinformation about it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                i was talking about world of warcraft in all 3 greentexts, comprehensionkun

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >one of the first to even have an open world
                WHAT
                IS
                ASHERON'S CALL
                The open world MMO that took LITERAL DAYS TO TRAVERSE.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Do you not know what "one of" means?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Suck my pyreal sliver, b***h.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                wow was the first to have a *seamless* (or nearly so) open world, you neanderthal. first open world? lmfao.

                and yes, the game is still responsible for the popularization of endlessly instanced + auto-matchmaking content making people stand around in hub cities all day. ffxiv is just as guilty but it's simply aping wow. all modern mmos suck for this reason.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I don't miss standing around pasting "lfg" into chat. You can tell me I actually do and it was better, but I don't and no it wasn't.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Get a new image. You post this exact same image every time people talk about old MMO mechanics and you need to cope about how they were actually awful because you're an arrogant homosexual and couldn't make friends.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Last time I saw it posted was somebody asking which FF14 world they should pick and somebody posted something about pitbulls in response to it, there seems to be mental illness surrounding this image

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You sure that was the last time you posted it? Because you seem to have posted it other times since then. Maybe that one post just sticks out in your mind for some reason. Maybe because you're the most readable poster on Ganker?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Last time I saw it posted
                >starts trawling through archives for when exactly it was posted
                >accuses me of being whoever it is he's stalking
                Like I said, mental illness surrounds this image

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You try this exact same thing literally every time I call you out. You feign ignorance and then the next day you bring it back up which just confirms I was correct. Why even play this game?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                (You) have legit problems, holy shit

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Black person we went through this exact same routine when I called you out in the Live A Live thread and it lived rent free in your head so loudly that you had to randomly bring it up in a FFXIV thread. You're a legitimate basket case. Go find a pitbull thread to post in and then scream at other people for posting off-topic when they respond to you.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I have no idea what the frick any of this you're talking about is, I see a pitbull mention though so I guess I've correctly marked a crazy? Get a tripcode so I can filter your stupid ass ez, or I guess I can just filter "pitbull" as one of your trigger words

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You know exactly what I'm talking about. I know you do, and you'll confirm it when you bring it back up next time I call you out. It's really not hard to pick you out of a thread when you use the exact same images and the exact same copypasted responses on every single topic and the exact same smug, arrogant, holier than thou attitude.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                ggez

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You try this exact same thing literally every time I call you out. You feign ignorance and then the next day you bring it back up which just confirms I was correct. Why even play this game?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                He's either a dyed-in-the-wool schizo or he's a janny with a vendetta and the ability to see IPs. Not sure which is funnier.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I don't need to see IPs to notice you, moron. You're an autist that can't stray from your pre-progammed responses.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                "Pre-programmed responses" is hilarious coming from somebody that scans arch.b4k.co for pictures he recognizes and screams about LaL and pit bulls.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You forgot your favorite image

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                you're missing the point. content should be something you run into in the open world while somehow interacting with it. not something you wait in a city to form a group for then skip over the open world one way or another.

                the leveling experience in wow gets this, max level was alright at first but only got worse.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >content should be
                Frick off, dude, placing it in the open world doesn't make it any more or less vapid than queueing for it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                you're right, content just sucks actually and we should all stop playing video games entirely

                seriously though, what the frick was your point here? lmfao.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yes it does, dungeon entrances are one of the most fun places for emergent WPVP. WoW completely killed that open world dynamic when they introduced the LFG tool.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >WPVP
                EW
                NO
                WORLD PVP SUCKS DOG TURDS

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Only if you hate the idea of being mildly inconvenienced in any way like a baby. WoW has plenty of those players, to be fair.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >noooo let me kill you and every quest giver in the zone for hours ur a baby if you don't let me HOW DARE YOU CALL FOR HELP FROM HIGH LEVEL CHARACTERS THAT NOT FAIR

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >describes one of the funnest parts about wpvp (calling in high lvl characters and getting larger battles started)
                >frames it as a bad thing
                lol

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You and everybody else in the thread knows people hate WPVP because of gankers and gank squads

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Gankers are rarely an actual issue. I played on a highly contested pvp server during OG classic and I only got ganked like once or twice a week. Most people just mind their own business. Ganking isn't even all that big a deal and can lead to interesting, emergent situations involving server politics. This dynamic is what makes mmos fun, not DDR against simon says bosses.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Interesting, emergent situations like "XxSeph1r07hXx : frick off gank Black person"

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Being reductive is ok as long as you recognize it doesn't have any actual impact on the validity of my argument.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Server politics as cited can be pretty handily shorn down to "frick off, gankBlack person" and "no lol"

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That's the mental midget way to look at it, I suppose.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not going to ascribe nuance to something that is not nuanced at all.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                your argument is flawed when 90% of wpvp is just people at level cap sitting in the lowest possible contested zone to kill people who can't fight back until they stop playing

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >your argument is flawed when 90% of wpvp is just people at level cap sitting in the lowest
                your premise is flawed when that's not 90% of wpvp lol. that's just all you engaged with because you were too focused on 10 boar ass quests to do anything else.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >10% makes things miserable for lowies
                >wtf why did wpvp die
                why indeed

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It died because blizzard killed it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >not DDR against simon says bosses.

                Hard disagree, then best genre of videogames is rhythm games.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                People levy the DDR complaint a lot but what the frick else are you seriously supposed to do in a WoW-like format? There's not much wiggle room for any other kind of mechanic that isn't movement, picking up/placing down/interacting an object, or whacking an add instead of the boss for a while. It's one of those allpurpose non-complaints that's designed to complain without really complaining about anything specifically.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >but what the frick else are you seriously supposed to do in a WoW-like format?
                Nothing, it's one of the reasons the WoW format is cancer that's holding back the genre.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Until we can make ARPGs or full-on action games work in a multiplayer online format with the kind of high player count expected of an MMORPG I don't think anything's actually being held back. Closest was Dragon's Dogma Online so far, and I guess Monster Hunter kinda counts but not really.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                MMO combat should be treated like puzzles that can be overcome through player creativity and group planning. The focus should be on rewarding creative group play. Give each class a huge set of tools with niche applications and design battles in such a way that people don't feel the need to go in with specific loadouts but can essentially look at who's available and say "okay, how can we win with what we have?"

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The game you're describing doesn't exist

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It does, actually.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This seems more in the vein of ascribing features to FFXI that it doesn't have, the closest job to your description is Blue Mage and the way it's built you can't actually run in and jack-of-most-trades anything

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >the closest job to your description is Blue Mage
                I wasn't describing any job, I was describing the combat system in general. Blue mage is incredibly versatile but no more so than jobs like RDM, NIN, DNC, or SCH.
                >This seems more in the vein of ascribing features to FFXI that it doesn't have
                It's literally exactly how my group approaches encounters. We look at who's around and what we can do and puzzle out how to win.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Oh wow you might make someone mad and trigger a guild war wow so interesting...
                Yeah no I think I'll stay with my scripted instance boss routines that never change. That's actual interesting gameplay.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >world pvp is heckin based!!!!!
                >why yes I am an undead rogue who spends 19 hours a day in lakeshire and hides from anyone that is within 20 levels of me

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >content should be something you run into in the open world while somehow interacting with it

                No thanks,

                >you wait in a city to form a group for then skip over the open world one way or another.

                Yes, that's what I want.

                Yes it does, dungeon entrances are one of the most fun places for emergent WPVP. WoW completely killed that open world dynamic when they introduced the LFG tool.

                >Yes it does, dungeon entrances are one of the most fun places for emergent WPVP

                Oh, you're one of 'those' people. Go back to playing your dead open world PvP games.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >No thanks,
                >Yes, that's what I want.

                why?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Because I don't want 'emergent gameplay' when I wanted to go do a dungeon with my guild-mates. I find no enjoyment from my time being interrupted and wasted because some other group of players is preventing me from going into the dungeon.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Because I don't want 'emergent gameplay'
                we know, FFXIV players want to be lead down the dopamine railroad. i just personally think that's boring.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You gonna respond to the rest of the post champ?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, it's the same response either way.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I find no enjoyment from my time being interrupted and wasted because some other group of players is preventing me from going into the dungeon.
                >we know, FFXIV players want to be lead down the dopamine railroad. i just personally think that's boring.
                Seems completely unhinged in response to the latter statement

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I find no enjoyment from my time being interrupted and wasted because some other group of players is preventing me from going into the dungeon.
                Because you don't like MMOs, you've just latched onto them for some reason. Sharing the world with other people is literally the basis for MMOs as a genre.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Sharing a world with other players doesn't mean they should be able to prevent me from playing the game.

                >Because you don't like MMOs, you've just latched onto them for some reason.

                I love MMO's because they are a persistent online world were other players can gather and do content together. They get regular updates, and even expansions every 2-3 years. No singleplayer game can provide that.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Sharing a world with other players doesn't mean they should be able to prevent me from playing the game.
                Interacting with others is the game. It's like if you were playing D&D and encountered some rival group of bandits on the way to a dungeon. That's the appeal, that situations like that can organically happen.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                autist argues that other players preventing you from interacting with the game is the real game

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Interacting with others IS the game. That was the point of MMOs.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                yeah and ignoring the actual stage which you do it on is missing part of the point

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >It's like if you were playing D&D and encountered some rival group of bandits on the way to a dungeon.
                and you'd call your DM a giant homosexual when the random bandits were 10 levels above you

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                In an MMO you call your guild for help and trigger a guild war that creates constant, unpredictable content for months. But for you it's not content if it wasn't implemented by the devs.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >guild war
                >for months
                This isn't EVE, anon

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >In an MMO you call your guild for help and trigger a guild war that creates constant, unpredictable content for months.

                But that's not what I wanted to play for 'content'. I wanted to go to the dungeon.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Might I suggest Shin Megami Tensei?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                NOOOO "ROCKS FALL EVERYONE DIES" IS GREAT STORYTELLING THE HERO'S JOURNEY IS FRAUGHT WITH PERIL

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                But they are not bandits, they are players, and the only thing they want to do is prevent me from playing the game. My goal is to go to the dungeon, not 'play' with them. I see no 'appeal', I only see a waste of time.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                But that LITERALLY IS THE GAME. That's the point, and that's why I say you don't actually like MMOs. You don't want organic situations, you don't want conflict between players, you don't want to actually deal with other people who might waste your time. What you want is to beat up npcs and get equipment. You want a singleplayer RPG.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >You want a singleplayer RPG.

                Please name a singleplayer RPG that gives a persistent online world were other players can gather and do content together. They get regular updates, and even expansions every 2-3 years.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >getting blocked from progressing your character, like, IS the game
                And there's a reason you''re not a developer for these games

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >fight a months long war to get access to a dungeon
                >finally push your enemies back and get access
                >get inside and find a new sword
                Just admit you don't want an adventure, you want to see number go up.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >months long war
                >to get access to a dungeon
                Holy shit, what? Anybody reasonable would have given up on the game within a day of that bullshit, or even called in a GM.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You're co-opting the term MMO to fit your definition. Just because that's an aspect a lot of MMOs had doesn't somehow make that it's definition. Going out to eat at a resturaant doesn't mean I want to be forced to sit at a table with random strangers to eat my meal with. Participating in the construct of society doesn't somehow mean you're forced to be social. Christ, this is Ganker, that should need to be explained.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No it isn't. You're unambiguously saying that you hate being mildly inconvenienced. FFXIV players hate any and all friction in games, it's a known thing.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Some homosexuals loitering outside a dungeon and making sure people can't go in isn't "a mild inconvenience" no matter how many times you say it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Some homosexuals loitering outside a dungeon and making sure people can't go in isn't "a mild inconvenience"
                No, that's exactly what it is.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No matter how many times you say it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You're kind of proving my point here, about how FFXIV players hate any and all friction. In your mind it's a huge deal when a normal person would probably just brush it off, or use some ingenuity to come out on top. You can just kill him, or get past him before he kills you. It's not even hard, at least in WoW.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Writing the other guy's memoirs for him and pretending they're real isn't an argument.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >a normal person would probably just brush it off

                A 'normal person' would either quit the game or never play the game in the first place. There is a reason every open world PvP MMO is dead or dying. 'Normal People' don't want to play those MMO's.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >play a genre centered around emulating a giant D&D game with a persistent shared world where you gather allies and make friends to overcome problems
                >shit your pants and cry because you don't want to make friends or you can't because you act like a Black person or explore or overcome danger you just want to get rewards

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              this is literally just a generic garry's mod sandbox map

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Uh, actually, the world of Final Fantasy XIV is called "Hydaelyn," or "Etheirys".

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Only wow is dumb enough to name five separate entities the same thing

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Azeroth is a planet. Eorzea is a continent. I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw enjoy both WoW and FFXIV

    You're a bunch of manchildren.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I enjoy both games too, I just really fricking hate FFXIV players.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >I enjoy both games too

        Doesn't sound like it. Both games have shit communities for different reasons.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Doesn't sound like it.
          Why? Does the concept of raising criticism of a game I enjoy confuse you like it does with FFXIV players?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            If you think FFXIV has a bad community but WoW doesn't, then you're clearly biased. The fact that you "fricking hate" the FFXIV community, but didn't mentions WoW's speaks volumes. Like most of this thread, you're just desperate to shit on FFXIV.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >If you think FFXIV has a bad community but WoW doesn't, then you're clearly biased.
              WoW has plenty of problems with its community, I never claimed they were perfect. The FFXIV community is far, far worse.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >The FFXIV community is far, far worse

                Explain. Your typing pattern leads me to believe you're the same guy spamming FFXIV images trying to convince people they look bad.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Explain.
                What's to explain? You can see the way FFXIV players react to minor criticisms of their game in every tangential community. WoW doesn't have that problem in the slightest.
                >you're the same guy spamming FFXIV images trying to convince people they look bad.
                I am that guy, and they do look bad.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                no bias here at all

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >morons constantly lie and make up shit to try make their sinking trashfire look better and distract from the constant troony shit and rape going on with the devs
                >people correct the lying
                >"SEEE LOOK HOW BAD AND INSECURE THEY ARE HAHAHAH"

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                correct the lying
                It's not lying, I literally posted images showing how bad the game looks and FFXIV players still deny it lmao.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This feels like a deliberate falseflag at this point to make WoWgays look dumb as bricks

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >FFXIV thing worse because it just is okay

                of fricking course

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                see

                >Explain.
                What's to explain? You can see the way FFXIV players react to minor criticisms of their game in every tangential community. WoW doesn't have that problem in the slightest.
                >you're the same guy spamming FFXIV images trying to convince people they look bad.
                I am that guy, and they do look bad.

                It literally is just that.
                Ignore this moron.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Trips of truth.
      Can you show me the current high end raid for WoW please? Watching P8S for the music is making me curious.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I consoooom more products so I'm better

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        So, we're resorting to this now?

        >Explain.
        What's to explain? You can see the way FFXIV players react to minor criticisms of their game in every tangential community. WoW doesn't have that problem in the slightest.
        >you're the same guy spamming FFXIV images trying to convince people they look bad.
        I am that guy, and they do look bad.

        >I am that guy

        Thanks, we're done here.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Thanks, we're done here.
          FFXIV players often flee from arguments when they're scared, I'm used to it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You are a homosexual for playing FF14 and you are not part of my fricking WoW community. Frick off, troony

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        WoWgays are genuinely unhinged bucks and it shows

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >new WoW expansion coming
    >desperate shitting in FFXIV

    every time

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >desperate shitting in FFXIV
      is everyone constipated?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I was so constipated two nights ago that I my hemorrhoids started bleeding.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Talk about WoW.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Miguel, my husband, I love him sooo much I suck and frick and drink his cum, oh bring me 3 bear pussies by the way I need them for reasons

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone pushing for this gay inclusion doesn't remember there were gay NPCs in the game as far back as vanilla. Kinelory and Quae were in the Arathi Highlands in 1.0. And in Wrath there was that night elf camp in Dragonblight where the girls were all flirting with each other.

      Now they are just going out of their way to make it blatant and cram it down everyone's throats that the mentally ill evolutionary dead-ends exist in this fantasy world.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >the mentally ill evolutionary dead-ends exist in this fantasy world.
        MAGA players?

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Who cares about story, which game has the sweatiest lore?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      FFXIV has the better lore. Unfortunately it's one of the game's only redeeming qualities.

      If it's objectively worse then it's not a shameless copy you fricking moron. A shameless copy would at least be as good.

      >If it's objectively worse then it's not a shameless copy you fricking moron. A shameless copy would at least be as good.
      Why?

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    FFXIV players are very intolerant.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      He purchased a boost, jumped into raids, and then called the game shit when he failed.
      If someone wants to criticize a game, that's fine. But I honestly have more respect for the people who have never touched the game and call it troony shit than I do this disingenuous prick. At least those people are being honest about it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >If someone wants to criticize a game, that's fine.
        not if the game is FFXIV lmao.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          FFXIV players criticize the game all the time, what are you talking about?
          The official FFXIV forums are mostly players b***hing about shit. Of course all you're going to find on twitter is fake positivity trannies engaging in mob tactics because that's most of twitter's userbase in general.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >FFXIV players criticize the game all the time, what are you talking about?
            True, there's a list of approved criticisms, but you aren't allowed to deviate from that script.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >yes xiv players criticise the game, but they dont criticise it the way i want them to so its invalid
              you're a buck broken little queer and it shows

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >yes xiv players criticise the game, but they dont criticise it the way i want them to so its invalid
                This isn't what I wrote. Read my post again.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You didnt specify any criticism of XIV that would be 'not allowed' for XIV players to bring up because you're disengenuous.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >You didnt specify any criticism of XIV that would be 'not allowed' for XIV players to bring up
                Whenever I talk about how bad FFXIV questing is FFXIV players respond with lies about how it's the same as WoW questing except with a better story. Is that a good example or do you want more?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                FFXIV questing being bad is subjective based on how much you enjoy the more story/dialogue focused quests. Moreover everyone gave shit to questing during SB for being one of the worst examples of it in the game with multiple quests being to walk someplace and talk to someone and that being the quest. So you're wrong we've established that for a fact.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >FFXIV questing being bad is subjective based on how much you enjoy the more story/dialogue focused quests.
                No, it's objectively bad for multiplayer mmo gameplay. It's designed like a single player VN and barely accommodates multiplayer at all apart from dungeons. If you try to play with a friend, most of the time you will be following waypoints and watching movies in silence together.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Thats subjective.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Which part?
                > It's designed like a single player VN and barely accommodates multiplayer at all apart from dungeons.
                This isn't subjective, this is how the game functions, even if you like it.
                >If you try to play with a friend, most of the time you will be following waypoints and watching movies in silence together.
                This is also objectively how the game works, even if you like it.

                All of this is actively unaccommodating of multiplayer gameplay.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You can skip cutscenes if it really bothers you that much.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Wow, so then I can mindlessly follow waypoints with my friend and every 5 hours I might get to press 2 buttons of my rotation against a mob in a purple circle before it dies. Amazing!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And yet, its better than WoW so it must be doing something right.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >its better than WoW
                Questing sure as frick isn't.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                your right it isn't worse, they don't force you to collect 2561 bear asses for a ring to progress the story in XIV

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        the funniest part is where he called the story shit

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        WHERE
        WERE
        THE
        HEALS?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't Quin69 a big wowhead and FF14 hater?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        the guy has 69 in his name so I don't know why anyone takes him seriously

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Which community let's me call someone a homosexual without getting perma-banned? That one is better.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Dragonflight is full of gay dragons, including gay frogs and gay centaurs.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      remember when virtually every centaur was an enemy because they were literal satanspawn

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I don't even really care about some back line guy that got injured more than magic in this world can solve being bound to a wheelchair. It makes sense. War sucks and people get maimed and badly injured. It's when you add the combat wheelchair like they did in D&D that I feel the line is crossed.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >entire thread calling FFXIV players bad
    >no criticism of WoW players whatsoever

    what are the odds

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Play both games
      >WoW players call FFXIV players shit
      >Point out how WoW players can also shit with examples
      >"Shut up ZIVtroony"
      >FFXIV players call WoW players shit
      >Point out how FXIV players can also be shit with examples
      >"Shut up WoWdrone"
      You're all fricking terrible and deserve eachother.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >WoW players call FFXIV players shit
        >Point out how WoW players can also shit with examples
        >"Shut up ZIVtroony"

        See this a lot.

        >FFXIV players call WoW players shit
        >Point out how FXIV players can also be shit with examples
        >"Shut up WoWdrone"

        Never seen this.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Depends on the mood of the thread. This is definitely a "Shut up ZIVtroony" thread.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            wowbucks calling any other game a troony game while their game has troony npcs, troony players, and troony devs will never not be funny

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              This. I don't deny that FFXIV has it's share of trannies in the playerbase, but what fricking game doesn't? Even 40K with all of it's grimdark testosterone bullshit has trannies trying to force their way in every now and again.
              But WoW is infected from the top down.

              I also love when WoW players called FFXIV a furry game because of anime catgirls and eventually Hrothgar yet they have
              >Tauren
              >Worgen
              >Pandaren
              >Vulpera
              And now scaly trans dragons. But like, genuine scaly trans dragons and not what people memed Au'ra to be.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                WoW playrs are the best at projecting their own failures onto others

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >>"Shut up WoWdrone"
          >Never seen this.
          There are two examples of "wowbuck" in this very thread.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            after 200 posts of seething and pathetically trying to shit on XIV

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            and 200+ shitting on FFXIV players

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Half of those posts are FFXIV players shitting on WoW players. You can literally read the thread to see it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I have been in this thread for a while. It's the same schtick. First you attack the gameplay, then failing that you attack the visuals, and failing that you're now attacking the community. You do this same shit in every fricking FFXIV thread. Next you'll bring up the optional cash shop.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >First you attack the gameplay, then failing that you attack the visuals, and failing that you're now attacking the community.
                Yeah, these are the 3 pillars of bad game design that FFXIV is founded on.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >he admits it

                fricking lmao

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                he's stopped hiding because everyone knows his post style

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                barry doesnt post anymore but there are a dozen copycats

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >the community is "bad game design"
                XD

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            2/200 how awful
            poor wow players

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What are the odds that blizzard will actually attempt to reclaim their MMO king status? Regardless of how anyone feels about it, XIV objectively hold the MMO spotlight at the moment. Will they throw more money and devs at it to steal back their spot, or will they just keep milking the already-trapped and run the brand recognition as far as it'll go?

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    imagine still supporting Blizzard lol
    a company that actively hates you

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      After hardcore raiding in WoW for 16+ years I enjoy the simplicity in FFXIV's gearing system. You get the piece that's better you do more damage. No spreadsheets or simulations need to be run on how this trinket combined with this necklace and that legendary item with those gems and enchants makes it 0.1% better than this other combination and if you do it wrong you don't get a group.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I'm of a similar mind. I've long since burned out on it.
        It wasn't even that bad in the past. It used to be "This boss drops this tinket and this boss drops this trinket. You should try to get these"
        But then it turned into
        "Okay this boss drops this trinket and this boss drops this trinket, but you want the titanforged versions and you need to pair them with this piece of armor that interacts with the borrowed power system. Also that spec you're playing is bad right now play this other spec you don't like or you're out of the raid. Now go grind out Mythic Plus and try to get these specific stats that have a chance to randomly appear but only on this boss starting at this key level"

        I don't have time for that shit anymore.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          They did finally get rid of war/titanforging with Shadowlands but the looming cancer of M+ ever remains. Now instead of just raiding to get the gear if you're not pushing the hardest keys in a clique you get passed up for the people that nolife run M+ for 4 hours a day seven days a week for the chance of an upgrade and a drop from the vault.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why is this shitty thread even still up

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      it's anti ffxiv
      if it was anti wow it would've been pruned

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >people arguing about shitty rotations, shitty graphics, and whatever gay shit they spew out when both games suffer from the same dog shit problems as the other one does
    You are all homosexuals for arguing over which shitty mmo is worse when in reality they both suck wiener for the same reason. So just play them and shut the frick up or just have a nice day

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Good game

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      au ra are all so fricking ugly

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you are gay
        I'm so sorry

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          nah lizards all have fricked up faces
          i'm pretty sure au ra females only have one good face

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            This autist is the only cute Au Ra in the entire game.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Cats won again.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >bimbo
              >chink
              >no brain
              >poop face

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You lost.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Femras have at least 3 good faces, which is more you can say about any other race.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            That's fem viera and even that one face is debatable.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I just love Viera so much.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                In art they look great. In game they look like shit.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        All Auri women are queens

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          downey face

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          sauce

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      sprouts are cute

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    FFXIV still think their shitty weeb game brought down WoW? lmao

    Blizzard brought down WoW. We've said for more than a decade now, no game can kill WoW but WoW.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      WoW hasn't been brought down, that's just the mantra they repeat like zombies in order to feel validated.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        WoW requires alts if you want to play different classes and so everyone uses alts. FFXIV lets you play every class on one character and only the sweatiest diapergays use alts so they can manipulate gear distribution.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Even if it were the case that all WoW players raided on alts, which it isn't, these numbers still prove that the game isn't close to being dead.

          I remember you posting in this in another thread and admitting those numbers are made up because there's no official source.

          They're not made up numbers, they're figures from FFlogs/WoWlogs. Kihra owns and operates both sites.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >FFlogs/WoWlogs

            and that is their source?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, and it corroborates closely with the figures presented by the luckybancho census.

              https://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/wsurvey_en.htm

              >FFLogs
              >not using the Lucky Bancho census data which is far more accurate
              lmao

              Have you seen the census survey? It's really not that different from kirha's figures.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >FFlogs/WoWlogs

            Where do they get their numbers from?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >FFLogs
            >not using the Lucky Bancho census data which is far more accurate
            lmao

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              luckybancho shows fewer characters than kirha does lol

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I remember you posting in this in another thread and admitting those numbers are made up because there's no official source.

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why are WoWgays so obsessed with FFXIV?
    I went to the WoW general, and they just talk about FFXIV.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They've been mind broken for the past year and a half over there. Should have been there during summer last year kek.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because WoW is dead and Blizzard is preparing to rape the corpse some more so all they can talk about is The Good Ole Days and seething about XIV

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      /wowg/ has a fair amount of people who haven't even played the game in years just to shitpost there, along with some refugees from /xivg/ who unironically talk about XIV more there than in /xivg/ which is just an ERP/groomer general

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No they don't, they talk about something called OG. idk what that is but it sounds fun

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw playing OSRS and not caring about both of these garbage MMOs

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Don't think you're in the clear boy.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        that entire newspost is fake though something similar happened in runescape 3

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I've wanted to start for a while now because I like the idea of just making whatever character I want for RP purposes, but I sure as frick don't want another subscription and neither do I want to become a slave to the gold sub redeem. Maybe I'll just start a free account and find some funny niche to fit into.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yea just give the free stuff a try. I will say members access is 1000x better, but you can still scratch some of that itch in f2p.

        I just love the questing/writing in runescape along with the world itself. So nostalgic I can't get enough.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I'll confess, I watched stuff like tileman and swampletics and the fact that you can still progress and succeed under such heavy restrictions was what interested me.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Oh yea snowflake and self imposed restrictions make the game SO interesting. I restarted my character to make an Ironman to change how I play and view the game. I quit my main who was like total lvl 1885 or so ~80 days played or so for fresh.

            I haven't looked back once.

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >WoW now takes place in Eorzea
    >FFXIV now takes place in Azeroth
    What changes?
    both games would be better

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    face 4 moonie bros report in

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Dragonflight looks genuinely fricking terrible.
    I don't know why anyone can still like Blizzard.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Sunk cost fallacy

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's a combination of trannies, addicts, and hardcore raiders.

        >muh mounts muh mogs muh cheevos i cant quit i cant just give them up dood

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Unironically yes
          I quit wow for OG, and there I do not feel the same anxiety over having to grind to get the mounts or the pets.

          In a way it's a failure, it's not as addicting as WoW.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's a combination of trannies, addicts, and hardcore raiders.

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This tells you everything you need to know.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Ion jokes around with the players
      >FFXIV players get so offended steam shoots out of their ears
      Well I know which community is more autistic now.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Ion tells the players not to play a certain subclass (And tells them he wont be fixing said subclass)
        >WoWbucks clap and continue to sub to the game

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >still more raid viable specs in WoW than there are total jobs in FFXIV even after Ion tells people to not play demo
          kek

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >having spec bloat that is unbalanced and unviable is good because...........because it just is!

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              WoW has significantly more gameplay variety among its objectively larger amount of specs too. FFXIV barely has any classes and they still all feel the same lol

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >every single dps is a two button builder spender rotation with a different coat of paint
                >dood theres so much variety!!!!
                Healers are the only truly varied role in WoW

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Here come the lies.

                Enjoy having whatever spec you main being made unviable for no reason other than Ion is moronic next expansion. Every class in XIV is viable if you say otherwise its a genuine skill issue.

                >Enjoy having whatever spec you main being made unviable
                All specs are viable, the idea they're not is made up.

                Here are some stats from the past 2 weeks:
                https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/29/

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >All specs are viable, except when they werent, like shaman healer

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >All specs are viable
                Correct, and the link I posted demonstrates that.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >All specs are viable, the idea they're not is made up.
                >Here are some stats from the past 2 weeks:
                >https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/29/
                Wowie, look what happens when I put 95th percentile data

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Do FFXIV players think you need to be in the 95th percentile to clear raids?

                Do FFXIV players not know what "viable" means?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If you clear a raid at 1th percentile, it's because you got carried by the other 80-90th percentile players in your group for the dps checks.
                Source : personal experience dying repeatedly in a fight and still clearing because of other players

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >If you clear a raid at 1th percentile
                Good thing no one is talking about clearing raids at the 1th percentile lmao.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Good thing no one is talking about clearing raids at the 1th percentile lmao.
                You implied it by presenting the total boxplot instead of the top player performance, you're implying that you don't take into account variations of performance vs overall group performance

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >You implied it
                No I didn't. I wouldn't expect anyone playing at the 1st percentile to be able to clear raids on any class in either game.

                >they probably think this isn't enough to clear sepulcher lol. ff players are funny.
                You realize that's AFTER being fully geared from the mythic raid itself, right?

                >You realize that's AFTER being fully geared from the mythic raid itself, right?
                Ah yes, the Demo warlocks got fully geared by not clearing the raids.
                >inb4 muh boosties
                No, plenty of them actually clear.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No, but wow community does.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Ret's actually good
                Dang, too bad it took years after I quit for it to finally happen.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >32k dps
                they probably think this isn't enough to clear sepulcher lol. ff players are funny.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >they probably think this isn't enough to clear sepulcher lol. ff players are funny.
                You realize that's AFTER being fully geared from the mythic raid itself, right?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                why is demo lock bad I love summoning shit nether portal is cool

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Not that anon, but you're literally using pre-patch data, which is never balanced because they implement changes centred around the upcoming expansion at a time where current expansion mechanics (legendaries/borrowed power) are still effective. This causes all sorts of ridiculous combinations and outlandish DPS. It's a short period of time between expansions so people can get used to the changes, balance is not the main objective.

                Use any of the other filters (i.e, the not horrendously disingenuous ones) and you'll see the disparity is considerably smaller.

                why is demo lock bad I love summoning shit nether portal is cool

                It was the best warlock spec by miles until pre-patch, this guy is just cherry picking

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Enjoy having whatever spec you main being made unviable for no reason other than Ion is moronic next expansion. Every class in XIV is viable if you say otherwise its a genuine skill issue.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                19 combat + 11 non combat + 1 blue boy is not 'barely any'. I will grant that all the crafters and btn/mnr are identical, but that's still 23.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Everything you need to know is here

      WoW will never have biofem clothes fly off on their own when the antagonist smirks.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        literally fricking who

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Do YOU make biofem clothes fly off on their own when you smirk?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      what's with the fake crying

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >feels like shit for letting down millions of people
        >fake crying

        autist

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    does wow have girls only servers?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      yes

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder if they do a screening

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        it says ALL in capital letters so i presume we have a Bumble like situation

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Uhm it's type2 here, girl or woman is problematic.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >girls only
      >probably 90% are trannies

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Girls only
      >ALL women are welcome
      There are no real women in that server.

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    im pretty sure it's just one sperg desperate to shit on FFXIV in this thread
    keeps going on about muh community

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There are a few people that don't like it and no one really cares but Barry is in league of his own, both XIV and YoshiP live rent free in his head.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Why is barry like this

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          He's mentally ill, and not just in a meme way, but clinically. Just like ACgay for example.

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    post your xiv/wow characters
    enough fricking shitflinging pls

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I am the OSRS skiller

      >tfw playing OSRS and not caring about both of these garbage MMOs

      And here's my FFXIV char.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Okay

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        SEX

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Representing for the keeper bros. All 10 of us.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Postan'

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        How come Clouds Bike has the highest mount speed in the game while this one doesn't?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Because one costs real money and the other is a grind reward.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Interesting.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    whats the coolest sam sword

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      the wooden stick from gold saucer

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The boken

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Law's Order Katana (non glowing ver.)

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >(non glowing ver.)
        Limp dick confirmed

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Halonic Friar or Nightsteel iirc

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Gordian Katana, Seiryu's Rippled Katana, Manderville Katana

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Abyssos Katana

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    it's really hilarious to me how even the most ardent of blizzdrones don't defend them anymore, but wowbucks are still desperately slurping at the final nuggets of shit from blizzard
    how do they not notice they're finally alone in their delusion

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    hmm

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      hmmmmmmmm

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I see the word wow used a lot, not referring to the game.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      kek

      hmmmmmmmm

      desperate

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Oh you want to push high M+?
    >Sorry sweetie only one group comp is allowed, you can go back to your casual runs or level and gear up an alt 🙂

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >DH 0.5%
      Why are they so low?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Can get better damage and required utility from other classes. That’s the gist of why any class is never taken

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Job gauges were truly the worst addition to XIV.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Frick Stormblood.

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Hey Barry, are you off your meds again?

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >thread inching closer to limit
    >shitposting getting lazier

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Just spam lewd post and kill it now

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      nothing kills threads faster than lalafell

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        correct

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          sauce

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            OC, I haven't posted it anywhere besides friends.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Catbox it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Catbox has never and is seemingly still not working for me, tried VPNs, I've never gotten it to work.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                try anonfiles

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That worked, thanks

                https://anonfiles com/C2q0meFfyb/h5_png

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the relationship between WoW and FFXIV reminds me a lot of my own relationship problems I went through. When I was in college I met this girl that sat next to me in one of my classes. We were both in the same major too. Naturally I got her phone number and would try to talk to her but she would barely respond much if at all, sometimes taking hours to respond to my texts and she would never hangout with me when I invited her to do things either. Later on a friend of mine in the class that is 6ft6 showed me the text messages she was sending him. Shit like
    >o tall friend, I dont like my current boyfriend because I prefer tall guys
    >o tall friend will you come to the party and pick me up? I got a little drunk xD

    I realized at that point she was a roastie prostitute and sort of ignored her. About 4 years after we graduated I ran into her because we both landed jobs at the same company.

    >hey anon do you remember me?

    she had gotten pretty fat, like maybe 240lbs since we had graduated. She talked to me a bit and invited me to lunch. When I met with her she told me about how her baby daddies were all shit and how she hates how flaky and uncommitted men are. I promptly said it was her fault that she got pumped and dumped and is just a nasty bawd and then I made the waiter split our bill and I left. She actually started crying after I did that and said she is not a prostitute she just made a mistake and the bad men tricked her. I called her a moron and I left the restaurant.

    frick FF14,

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I just resubbed to xiv, wasn't Alphies mommy a weekly quest now?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yes and she directly asks you for something sexy to wear so she can rail her husband in it

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Where is she? I saw no quest markers in not-athens

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Well-dressed Attendant NPC next to Agora, X:12.6, Y:9.7

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Hmh, ok. I might have picked it up. Thanks anon

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      yes, for crafter/gatherer.

  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why is fordola so cute

  58. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Both are the same troony shit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Everything is troony shit, because trannies are just groomed autistic men, and most video games are for autists, them playing war games of all things explain a lot, things no real women ever will

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        trying to meme "troony" into a non-specific term for Anybody I Don't Like didn't work

  59. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    what MMO do chads play?

  60. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >mmo shit-flinging thread just left up
    why even have a rule about "post quality"?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because Ganker is way too big to actually be reasonably moderated and splitting it up into six or seven daughter boards + Ganker itself didn't work.

  61. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I've tried 3 times to play FF14, but the story is just awful. It's also very stupid that "You can pair any two classes for cool combos!" Guild Wars style mechanic gets dropped for 'YOU MUST TAKE RANGER + [whatever the thing is] TO GET BARD OR ELSE'

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They don't even have that anymore you just level archer to get bard.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Dude you're describing cross-class which hasn't been in the game for over five years. You're also describing multiple class requirements for jobs which haven't been in the game for over five yeras.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      class arr filter at work

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      t. guy who read a single hot take click bait 2.0 ARR review and decided to run with it

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Bro that's my wife. Piss off.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      why are you using 5+ year old bait

  62. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why is nanamo so hot

  63. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    OW MY butthole

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      HOT

  64. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can you be this based in WoW?
    Genuinely curious as I've never played it.
    It got popular at a time where I wasn't playing vidya.

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