>Race: White human male
>Alignment: Lawful Good
>Class: Paladin
>Mythic path: Angel
Oh yeah, it's gaming time
Wrath of the Righteous
>Race: White human male
>Alignment: Lawful Good
>Class: Paladin
>Mythic path: Angel
Oh yeah, it's gaming time
>Class: Oracle 1, Scaled Fist 1, Vivisectionist 2, Paladin 16
Oh yeah, it's unfair time
is that real? what the frick lmao. really should do a trickster playthrough one of these days
It's real
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2636866538
>Fauchard Sword Saint
>Heavy Foot Bardruid Dragonrider Scout
>Thug Paladins
>Warbarian Ragepriests
I am feeling very attacked right now.
>they even threw the do'urden edgelord players comment in there and zoomers won't even get it
RIP
and drow came with natural Magic Resistance
It's fricking based. I mean, a pretty good game having it's own built-in parody mode and the jokes land?
I have no idea why people still AC dip sperg in a game with pet riding and last stand
Played on core with a custom party, my tanks were a 20 paladin MC and a 20 cavalier gendarme, both in heavy armor and on horseback. Worked fine.
Also, if you're not a 20 paladin you're not a paladin.
Ac is not even a problem without animal companions. I had a regular Pally and he was still tanking everything even without a horse thanks to the gorillions of good items this game throws at your feet
The AC meme builds weren't even worthwhile in Kingmaker. Past a certain point stacking more AC doesn't matter, enemies all hit on 20 anyway so you want to be investing in DR, temp hitpoints, concealment etc.
Most online builds are made by spreadsheet autists who don't play the games.
Any ac and or AB boost dip in kingmaker was to handle chapter 1, which is the hardest. Then you just carry the levels, and you still get good benefits. Nobody takes monk level as their 8th or 9th to boost their ac in the midgame
The Qlipphoth born Scaled Fist Oracle Eldritch Scion Dragon Disciple is legit tho
Not anymore without the bite stacks, honestly.
Pets are a terrible visual clutter, I'd play with any autistic dip class if that meant not needing them
I would use animal companions more often if they weren't subclass restricted, though the fault is also mine for preferring casters to such a degree.
how do you get the mount's AC to acceptable levels?
Natural armor + buff the shit out of it + crane style
Buffs, raising his int to 10 and itemizations. I gave my horse mount the lily helmet, lizard tail, bracer of armor and raised his dex to like +10 with mythic beast and buffs and using the raised INT to get crane style on him.
you only need 3 int for improved unarmed and crane and outflank, just put a 2 int helm on them when they level up
I know. I just give them like a headband of int +4 int and then pick the relevant feats.
>I put everything into STR
On a horse Dex matter more.
Frick horse, piggero's where it's at
I laugh like a moron whenever I see my halfling riding this goofy little boar. Literally just makes my day.
Crane style only requires giving it an iteam that will raise INT by 1-2, you only need it for getting the improved unarmed combat IIRC, not the other feats, and the feats stay active even if you remove the item.
Boar needs belt of dexterity +2 to select the dodge feat, after that it's also fine.
I put everything into STR on them.
they have naturally high stats + base natural armor. add dodge, defensive fighting, and crane style, then give them all the AC buffs. for the fatter pets that trade more natural armor for dex, armor can be good too, e.g. full plate barding on a bulwark boar or triceratops
it falls off later on compared to truly AC sperged characters but by then you have enough alpha strike that defense doesn't matter
Teach horse kung fu and the riding skills give you a whole other roll on top of the AC system for having high mobility, one for saving throws as well so at that point your horse is basically also a kung fu paladin with higher than 20 cha because skills are a joke to boost.
>ffs are zooms too lazy to read tooltips anymore why are you even in this genre
but who needs to get the mobility and the avoid damage perk, the mounted or the mounter?
The mounted. The rider should be focused on other things
He's asking about the mounted combat feat, the rider takes that if you want it. The mount needs 3 mobility for the defensive fighting bonus but beyond that it doesn't really matter.
*also the ridden pet's initiative doesn't matter so they don't need to put a feat in it.
The pet uses it's own mobility check for acrobatics which is useful for mage riders who just want to position without getting blendered.
The rider's mobility skill is used for the feat but it's often unnecessary. Pets are already pretty strong.
One of the best pet buffs is the "friend to animals" ability from nature oracles. Give them your own Cha added to their saving throws, they're basically paladins with more beef and no spell like abilities
Kinda hard to use that with seelah then since her heavy armor gimps her mobility skill, right?
I used it with a paladin and a cavalier both in heavy armor and it worked fine on core. Never used Seel*h though
>on c*re
Take off your armor and throw it in the trash, you are on a pet.
>Seelah
>Heavy armor
The horse being there means she won't get it
homosexual, it's supposed to be
>paladin 2
>stigma wtich 1
>scaled fist 1
>Oracle 16
Does this work for Daeran? assuming you use an alignment mod for the monk dip
Yes. if it works on Seelah than it can work on any person that uses CHA such as Arue, ember or Daeran. but it's not worth it because the extra AC is not worth it on core
meant for
That’s close to one of InEffect’s builds if I remember correctly.
>Race: White Aasimar
>Sex: Yes
>Alignment: Lawful Good
>Class: Pure Oracle
>Mythic Path: Angel, Vengeance
>Paladin
Of which deity though? This is the real question OP must answer.
Iomedae of course
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Erastil or Sarenrae, depending on my mood
Iomedae,
>B-But
shut the frick up
lol, he's worst goddess' tool
Alright tell me which god you're paladin worships.
Abadar.
>Worship the god of ~~*(banker*~~)
shalom fellow Goylarion. Avistan needs to accept more refugees from Qadira
Worshippers of Abadar are welcome in 109 kingdoms
>more refugees from Qadira
Yes, we do
Is race mixing good for you?
I prefer planar species mixing
Acceptable too, just don't reproduce with human women goy
Wouldn't that be interplanar mixing?
Call it whatever you want it's not stopping me
Shelyn.
>paladin
lol, Azata Sword Saint of Desna here, it's like you've never even sucked a dick before. Sad.
All the femboys and gamer girls are at my house :3
>Azata Sword Saint of Desna
Cringe. i am more of a Azata Bard and Kineticist main. I am still made about zippy magic nerf
you both suck,
Dhampir Azata Primalist of Desna with Dragon AND Fey bloodline AND Celestial Totem,
get on my level
Can't wait to get my demon graft.
but you can't ascend if you get grafted anon!
Wait you can't? NONONO
I could play an Imoedae paladin in Kingmaker but in Wrath it just feels cringe.
>white human
And dropped. Kitsune are the strongest, most aesthetic, most powerful race on Golarion. This is just facts.
froggy begone
It seems your logic is lacking
YOU are lacking
The mongrel did it
my brain is not defective enough to find anthropomorphic animals sexually attractive
that's because they aren't morbidly obese
pff
yiff in hell
so is wotr the new schizo spam game? because no good game has ever been spammed here.
We've been having WotR threads since the fricking board was created, the only new one here is you
yeah i know, but the usual schizos (You) are pooping their pants and rapid firing threads now
someone wasn't around for bg3's release
hey, it's the everyone-but-me-is-a-schizo schizo. sup, bro?
Not RPG.
What's a RPG and why isn't wrath one
Why can't you play as a Lawful Neutral Paladin?
Because Paladins are lawful good.
But why are they only Lawful good and not Lawful Nuetral? after all most players play Paladin as a LN or LE and perform some great mental gymnastic to justify their actions.
>or LE
Antipaladin
>most players play Paladin as a LN or LE and perform some great mental gymnastic to justify their actions
You have a bad GM if that's the case, and if you're talking about Wrath and Kingmaker then taking too many non-lawful good actions will cause your Paladin to fall so idk how you can play a paladin that isn't lawful good.
Even then most anons go out of their way to perform Evil acts in these games. Most people play paladin, do evil shit and then pretend to be "pragmatic" and "reasonable" like it's totally okay to kill Seelah after she stopped you in molten scar, Kill Camellia even though at that point in act 3 she did nothing wrong and attacking Arue even tho she helped in various ways.
>Kill Camellia even though at that point in act 3 she did nothing wrong
peer
>read a couple of posts
>most anons
Brain issue.
>Even then most anons go out of their way to perform Evil acts in these games.
According to who? People who play evil characters don't like playing paladins because of alignment restrictions.
>Most people play paladin, do evil shit and then pretend to be "pragmatic" and
"reasonable"
Again. who the hell is "most people"? Where are you getting this information from? Are you just making up a consensus so you can argue against an imaginary problem?
He's right, the average LG deus vult larper on Ganker is borderline evil
Then again he's also a moron for thinking that Camellia did nothing wrong
>if you don't allow a serial killer to evade justice, that's not being a lawful good paladin
I think you conceptualizations of what is right and good has been distorted to the point where the concept of justice has been lost.
>it's totally okay to kill Seelah after she stopped you in molten scar,
retareded yes but she should be punished for letting a criminal get away with it.
>Kill Camellia even though at that point in act 3 she did nothing wrong
Are you moronic or just merely pretending? because she is besides a body of one of your crusader when you find her in the basement.
>attacking Arue even tho she helped in various ways.
No one does that. Literally everyone play as a goodie two shoes pally,maybe some edgylord here pretended to be unique and original did it but the majority of player don't
>letting a criminal get away with it
She doesn't do anything if you send her to prison, you know, the lawful option not the evil one
I don't remember a prison option
If you give her to Anevia they kill her instead of you, except now it doesn't make sense because Anevia and some crusade shitters shouldn't be able to handle a mythic companion
What? We're talking about Seelah and her Aldori friend, not Camellia
Oh, my bad.
Yeah killing some shell-shocked girl on the spot is just psychotic behavior, even Regill says to court-martial her.
deserters must die
I don't expect a paladin to sit still for someone out-edgying regill
He is talking about Seelah's friend. Trying to execute her on the spot is what causes Seelah to turn against you
I'd say that's a legit Lawful Good Paladin reaction.
more of a seelah reaction, no self-control or brains.
no brains is somebody who just murders people arbitrarily and expects to good aligned characters applaud
yep. no brains either way, basically chaostards.
She also stops you from trying to get money from the mongrels and if you have her in your party she will rescue Ember if you don't intervene or even help Yaniel (Areelu) unbind from the chains
I wish there were more of this shit, not less
I'd like to have to worry about my party comp if I want to do psychotic shit, even with mercenaries.
d&d and its knockoffs are full of weird legacy designs and alignment is dumb to begin with, don't worry about it
this is exactly the kind of shit a chaotic evil person would say
>t. Lawful Stupid incel
>t. Chaotistic Neuter
A incel would be Neutral Evil or Chaotic Evil..
>alignment is dumb to begin with
Players like you who downplay alignment and its significance are the reason why we have such dumbed down alignment systems in Wrath and why Wizards has been trying to gut alignment since 4e. You are part of the problem. Alignment matters and should have proper mechanics for it instead of it being this watered down slop.
Alignment has been dumb since its inception, as shown by now decades of people arguing about it.
What astonishes me is how hard it is to understand alignments for these people
>Lawful Good
Believes in a tride and true set of rules that helps everyone and acts by them
>Neutral Good
Does what they believe is right regardless of rules when it suits them.
>Chaotic Good
Doesn't even consider what might be the rules. Does what's right regardless of the consequences because it's right.
>Lawful Neutral
Believes in a code of conduct but motives aren't particularly for the worse or the better
>Neutral
Can hold contradicting beliefs on certain matters that are both lawful, chaotic, evil, and good. Some may be trying to uphold a strange balance on the cosmos. Extremely difficult to pull off without looking like either a moron or a mess of a person.
>Chaotic Neutral
With no code of conduct and split between self-interest as well as selflessness, Chaotic Neutrals are slaves to their whims. These are people with no real goal in life or some strange abstract unachievable purpose. It's the alignment of the insane because they lack the reason to pick a side and moronic players who thinks it's an excuse to play lol so random characters.
>Lawful Evil
Acts in self-interest but with either hard limits to what they will do or according to a code of conduct.
>Neutral Evil
Acts entirely in self-interest
>Chaotic Evil
Is willing to do the most insane shit to accomplish their goals. No morals or sense of right and wrong. Can do awful things for the hell of it.
>With no code of conduct and split between self-interest as well as selflessness, Chaotic Neutrals are slaves to their whims. These are people with no real goal in life or some strange abstract unachievable purpose. It's the alignment of the insane because they lack the reason to pick a side and moronic players who thinks it's an excuse to play lol so random characters
Mindbroken by CNchads.
Jubilost is nothing but a slave to his gnomish nature that requires him to act like a complete fricking moron at times. This is one of them. By rejecting immmortality, a form of stasis, he resumes the chaotic homosexualry of his race.
the manlet lacks an argument, as usual
I think Neutrals are always complete messes. You have to be in the first place to be undecided on things. Chaotic Neutrals at least don't believe in order. Neutrals are some ass backwards mix of yes and no. When I think Neutral, I think of Greybor: a deadbeat assassins-for-hire father who thinks he does more for his kid while not being in their life despite wanting to be in their life. In his personal quest, he breaks his code of conduct as he follows it by allying with you against the guild that employs him.
Major flaw in this post is how you somehow managed to get True Neutral wrong. True Neutral is consistent within itself, it is not "le random contradictory" alignment, Neutrality is a selfish position that is not as whim oriented as Chaotic. A True Neutral character cares about first and foremost himself, his own needs above those of community or compassion, though he is not as prone to whim, wanderlust, or impulse as Chaotic characters are. This is difficult for you to understand because your post is biased towards Law.
>True Neutral is consistent within itself
Which is another word to describe how a person justifies having two completely contradicting beliefs.
>This is difficult for you to understand because your post is biased towards Law.
lol, no
I couldn't really give a shit about law. Lawful Evil is my favorite alignment because it's self-interested with limits. Neutral Evil is a close second. I couldn't give a shit about doing the right thing for the sake of it.
Neutrality is for morons and hypocrites.
Lawful Evil is a moronic alignment because evil is the absence of standards, ethics, and morality. How can a person advocate for law when they don't believe in it and use it solely to screw people over? You're criticizing neutrals for being hypocrites simply for being neutral, which is nonsensical, while playing the most hypocritical alignment in the entire game.
>evil is the absence of morality
fixed that for you
ethics and standards are entirely separate, albeit related, things
>How can a person advocate for law when they don't believe in it and use it solely to screw people over?
It's out of their own self-interest, not contradicting their ethics and standards. You seem to have mistaken law for an adherence to the actual laws of a place.
>You're criticizing neutrals for being hypocrites simply for being neutral, which is nonsensical, while playing the most hypocritical alignment in the entire game.
My dude. Your justification for Neutrality's self-contradicting nature was that it makes sense within itself. The reality of neutrality being closely tied with hypocrisy is because of this. You justify completely opposite stances neutrals hold by virtue of selfishness. It doesn't change the hypocrisy.
Frankly, I think your definition of True Neutral describes Evil better. Putting yourself above your community is acting out of self-interest. If you put in some kind of contributing, I might've bought it.
>ethics and standards are separate
Lol, lmao. So evil is ethical then? Explain to me the ethics of child trafficking and mass murder then please. How can you claim that evil has standards when you're willing to commit atrocities to satiate your own self interest? A Lawful Evil character has less standards than a Lawful Neutral or Lawful Good character. Lawful Evil has rules and regulations but no standards, especially if those lack of standards are kept quiet.
>It's out of their own self-interest, not contradicting their ethics and standards.
I don't think your understand what ethics are nor what standards are. Let me break this down for you because you seem to be very confused. So if you're playing a Lawful character who claims to be beholden to a sense of obligation or code of conduct to a collective, it becomes hypocritical to advocate for a collective when in reality you do not care about the collective but about yourself. You are advocating for something you objectively do not believe in, which is the definition of hypocrisy.
>Your justification for Neutrality's self-contradicting nature was that it makes sense within itself. The reality of neutrality being closely tied with hypocrisy is because of this
Again, you don't understand what True Neutral is. A man who wants to be left alone in the woods is an example of True Neutral. He has no community, he has no code of conduct, but he is not crazy or impulsive, though neither is he needlessly cruel nor is he overly compassionate or merciful. How can you claim someone is a hypocrite who does not advocate for anything? You can only be a hypocrite if you preach what you do not practice, in other words if you claim to believe in something that you do not. Someone who does not claim to believe in anything cannot be accused of hypocrisy, unless you point out that they do believe in something, though that is besides the point because neutrals do not advocate for anything.
>Explain to me the ethics of child trafficking and mass murder then please
Abusing them would harm their price and more than one fatal blow is a waste of time.
>How can you claim that evil has standards when you're willing to commit atrocities to satiate your own self interest?
I do not commit atrocities for their own sake but to further my own ends.
>A Lawful Evil character has less standards than a Lawful Neutral or Lawful Good character.
Yes
>Lawful Evil has rules and regulations but no standards, especially if those lack of standards are kept quiet.
No.
>So if you're playing a Lawful character who claims to be beholden to a sense of obligation or code of conduct to a collective, it becomes hypocritical to advocate for a collective when in reality you do not care about the collective but about yourself. You are advocating for something you objectively do not believe in, which is the definition of hypocrisy.
I never said I wasn't against genocide or hurting people. I think we should genocide and hurt the right people for the sake of the greater collective, which also benefits me.
>Again, you don't understand what True Neutral is. A man who wants to be left alone in the woods is an example of True Neutral. He has no community, he has no code of conduct, but he is not crazy or impulsive, though neither is he needlessly cruel nor is he overly compassionate or merciful. How can you claim someone is a hypocrite who does not advocate for anything? You can only be a hypocrite if you preach what you do not practice, in other words if you claim to believe in something that you do not. Someone who does not claim to believe in anything cannot be accused of hypocrisy, unless you point out that they do believe in something, though that is besides the point because neutrals do not advocate for anything.
Your idea of a true neutral is someone who is not a person at all. Really, you're idea of true neutral is a person who does not exist or may as well not.
>true neutral characters don't exist
So.. because you can't conceive of people who act that way in objective reality means they don't exist in your eyes? Are you European or something?
No. I can easily conceive of such people. Such people aren't of worth or note. They may as well be dead.
what part of "law" requires believing in standards, ethics and morality? you're conflating it with lawful good.
A Lawful Neutral character isn't going to be needlessly cruel to achieve his ends. There is a sense of value places towards standards and ethics even if he is devoid of compassion and mercy.
kek Hellknights are mostly LN and they're well known for their cruelty
Regil is lawful evil and Hellknights are an order from Cheliax, a nation that is ruled by Devils. Hellknights are a perfect example of lawful evil being hypocritical because they use the law and Godclaw as a justification for cruelty and power for power's sake, and the collective is only valued for as long as it can be climbed. There is no sense of community in a Hellknight order.
You seem to mistake being lawful and evil as being hypocritical rather than serving the whole for selfish ends.
Regill is just one guy, go ahead check the other Hellknight's alignments by pressing Y, or just read the fricking Hellknight class description, most of them are LN not LE or LG
A lawful neutral person would stick to the law regardless of its cruelty or standards or ethics. It's a simpleton's "it's lawful therefore it must be right" perspective. That's why Valerie is Lawful Neutral with 9 INT.
I think it depends on the person but regardless you're right that Lawful Neutrals will never intentionally break the law no matter how stupid the law is.
>your post is biased towards Law
Lawgays are always the worst out of all alignment autists.
A chaotic neutral character is simply a character that dislikes authority, like a han solo type.
The barbarians in Kingmaker literally have to suck up to authority (their chieftain) even if they don't like it kek
Alignments are a meme
Pathfinder is just a badly written game with awful characters. Speaking of barbarians, another classic CN character is Conan the Barbarian.
>Pathfinder is just a badly written game with awful characters
It's at least good enough to have you crying here
>pathfinder has bad writing
>yes it does
>hey stop that >:(
What is it with you autistic morons?
>following laws = believing in them
you do realize it's because they know the chieftain will kick their fricking asses right?
A CN character would rather leave than be oppressed, what separates them from TN is that their pursuit of freedom is not pragmatic.
chief would still kick his ass for leaving
>Chaotic Neutral = No loyalty
seriously
he says as he does exactly this
>chief would still kick his ass for leaving
Its not negotiable. The only CN character in kingmaker is Jubilost, who won't submit to any authority under any circumstance and has motives independent of good and evil.
>who won't submit to any authority under any circumstance
.... Except yours
>and has motives independent of good and evil
Wanting to cure your race's literal BLEACHED disease is fricking good no matter how you look at it
>.... Except yours
He disrespects the player character pretty much constantly, but this is also partially why kingmaker and wotr are incredibly stupid games for complete nitwits.
He doesn't, he's only like that at first until you prove him wrong. Dumb moron that gets his ego hurt so easily
>He doesn't, he's only like that at first until you prove him wrong
No, he calls you a moron the entire game and throws tantrums when you don't follow his advice.
>throws tantrums when you don't follow his advice.
Yeah, this is basically what I see CN as, a character who's both independent and arrogant.
My favorite moment in Kingmaker was when he suggested to raise taxes on imports and then I immediately blasted him with the "no import taxes, I honor the river freedoms" decree, upon which he proceeded to gaslight with "w-well you think you're clever? Y-you can't run a kingdom without taxes". Fricking gnome. Should never have made him treasurer.
Every fricking advisor "throws a tantum" if you don't follow their advice you fricking autist, jesus christ
Some characters get upset when you do something that's not good or not evil. Jubilost only gets upset when you say he's wrong.
Jubilost is an attention prostitute because it staves off the bleaching. He needs to argue with you and be challenged because if he doesn't experience new things he'll bleach. He is incapable of being passive because he's a Gnome.
Linzi is not like that.
Linzi isn't a gnome you dumb moron
Oh well I don't remember lol
benefits of being a halfling
Armag is devastated once he learns that the actual Armag was a c**t that didn't give a frick about his people. Barbarians respect their chieftai, they have no problem with them per se. They only have a problem with it in the game because Armag is just getting them killed for no reason, and yet they still remain loyal to him because he's the chieftain
And tell me, what was Han Solo's goal in life?
Why are you so obsessed with muh goals? When presented with a CN character that has an obvious goal the only thing you did was cry about something else
Dumb lawtard
alignments are what autists use to sort people so they don't have to think about actual characterisation and complex motivations. "proper mechanics" for a ridiculous grid that doesn't represent how people think or act doesn't make your roleplaying games any better, just your spreadsheets.
>Class: Paladin
dip monk, dip vivisectionist
Not optimal. That's just making it longer until Mark of Justice comes online.
Plus, vivi is largely useless. You do not need the AB boost ofr 10 minuets in wrath as much even on unfair
homosexual. Dipping monk is useless because a mithral Heavy armor would still be better at early lvls and Vivi is shit because the +4 isn't worth it because you can easily kil most things in core without needing a extra +2
What options do you get with Jannah if you put her in prison?
Nothing, you just wait until Seelah's final quest in act 5 and at that point you can allow her to redeem herself by helping you or she stays in prison
Using scrolls of alignment, can you do Demon mythic path with Paladin or Ranger?
>Demon mythic path with Paladin
Cringe
No, your questline requires you stay CE or at worst one step away
Also ranger has no alignment restrictions
>Also ranger has no alignment restrictions
Oh, I didn't even notice that. I'll make Ranger MC and hire a paladin merc. Rangers are good only AD&D, and I thought they were in 3e as well, but I guess I was wrong. Thanks.
Nope. I did that to stay NG and got cucked out of the asassination quest. Ranger has no requirements
>Alignmentgays having their usual melty
Can't you frick off to Ganker or /tg/?
It's not my fault you can't argue for shit, anon.
I don't want to argue about your autistic meltdown of which alignment fits Batman
depends on the writer
All Alignments are stupid and gay aside from LG,CG, LE and CN.
Can one make a save at the end of act 1, and just use respecs to essentially "start" the game at act 2? Have a ton of character ideas I want to try, but all act 1 playthroughs are identical regardless of class so it is boring.
I'm thinking this is the solution.
Yes
Sure, only real change that has not to do with being optimal is which mongrel you recruit.
Yes. only thing you miss out on is is lann or wenduag depending on who you choose
For a "completionist" run I have no idea why you would choose Wendu over Lann since you can only get Lann in Act 5 if you choose Wendu, whereas you can get Wendu in Act 3 if you choose Lann.
wendu betrays you if you accept her in that act
She betrays you no matter what if you chose her in act 3. i have heard that you can get her in act 5 just like Lann but you have to chose the evil options.
The lawful options, you have to convince Lann that turning the mongrels into crazy cannibals is a good thing
nah, you convince him he's being a moron because the rest of the tribe is going along with it, making his actions unlawful
it's stupid but he's lawful stupid
You have to say "you're shit and not good enough to be a crusader" which puts her in a self-loathing spiral where she shows up to try to show you she's worth something
Honestly the whole thing is pretty depressing, just kill her. She's a murderer anyway.
but you can fix her with your penis
See? This is why Camellia is superior
If I kill Wendu, how will Lann ever get pussy? I refuse to wienerblock my companions, that's not behavior of a true friend.
He would rather kill himself before fricking her again
oh please
like lann's ever going to get to frick anyone else
Summary execution for desertion is not a lawful good action, you psychos.
In standard real world militaries throughout all of human history desertion was grounds for a death sentence because if you don't punish it harshly it destroys the structure of your military since you've shown that there are zero or light consequences for abandoning your post, meaning everyone will desert as soon as things get tough.
She was always a volunteer, there is such a thing of context and not applying "rules" mechanically. At the very least, if you want to apply some law/rule, you have to do it before a court of law. She was a friend of Seelah, too, moron. Just what do you fricking expect her character to do?
So being volunteer exempts her from the military hierarchy she quite literally volunteered to be a part of? Lol, what? If she was part of a Mercenary company that had their own regiments that would be different.
standard real world militaries are lawful evil
You're thinking of modern militaries where there aren't any meaningful wars and it's everyone dying for Israel, in which case I'd agree.
No? deserters were prisoners of war like captured soldiers, everyone was sent to mines and work camps because labor is that valuable
>Not october but november
It's over.
nani
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1184370/view/3749866608151438572
>The Lord of Nothing
literally me
Experience with anons really made me think twice every time I have an urge to tell some internet rando to "go out more".
Can someone help? Why can't I metamagic (selective) my hungry pit? It's the same for every conjuration spell btw, I can only seem to apply my selective metamagic to every evocation spell but my conjuration spells are missing those circles/slots for metamagic.
I took favorite meta - selective btw if that matters.
Ok nevermind, it turns out tabletoptweaks changes selective spells to only work on instantaneous spells, bummer.
Yep, it's not supposed to work on shit like pits, grease and sirocco
I love selective web
Is there any other substitute "difficult terrain only for enemies" spell?
Just turn it off
Doing Through the Ashes for the first time. I gave my Barbarian greatclub specialization because I thought it would be a widely available weapon considering how low level of an adventure it is, only to find out I can't even acquire greatclubs until reaching the main square after the Graveyard and there's a thousand much more advanced weapons obtained earlier, so I fricked up my character for nothing.
it's always a mistake to specialise in a weapon type for a blind playthrough of this type of game. you can't rely on logical assumptions with owlcat.
p good but consider this
>start off neutral
>start slipping into evil and going down the daemon path, following your strength and hate
>let Iomadae convince you to throw off your daemonhood and give up your mythic power
>become a Legend and start pursuing LG
actual character arc for the player
My first run, my angel path paladin went legend at the end to atone for doing Camellia's full arc. Scrolls of atonement plural were purchased along the way...
her pussy is the ultimate corruptor
>let Iomadae convince you
Uhhh no
>let Iomadae convince you
I can understand if you do it for Arue but why the frick would you do it for Iomedae of all people/gods
Do shadow spell dcs stack with the mimicked spell? Like if I cast a shadow hideous laughter, will it also use my bonuses to enchantment DC?
What's the best class if I want to use both enchantment and conjuration
No, I'm not changing schools
Sorcerer? Wizard that doesn't have either blocked? How are you not figuring this out yourself?
I don't feel like checking every spellcaster class' spellbooks
they're the same exact spellbook
Literally just play sorcerer or wizard and specialize in either school. This isn't difficult to figure out.
I wasted a few hours in a futile attempt to create a decent hag picture for my upcoming demon playthrough.
This prompt shit is so damn hard.
Your assigned FBI agent might be willing to help, try throwing some requests in the prompts.
Imagine not being a faceless knight chad
I have used variants of this for 3 playthroughs across kingmaker, wrath and dlc
The only bad thing about thsoe it's that 99% of the time they're always using swords
Is Ulbrig 100% necessary for Gundrun? Like, do you need him in the party to do every single quest there, not just his personal one?
Damn guys, I'm completely burned out on this game. Can't stomach another minute. But now I'm completely spoiled because there's no other party based RPGs on this level. How did random no-name Russian studio make the best RPG since Baldur's Gate 2?
BG2 was made by a no name studio.
Well, 1 was. But not really the same deal because it had the Interplay logo on the cover.
People didn't really know who the frick Bioware was even by the second game.
>Interplay logo
Publishers don't really matter.
I disagree on that. Interplay was run by RPG enthusiasts and developed first party RPGs. So seeing the logo was something of a seal of quality. Or at least, seal of interest.
No.
Are you telling me that isn't a fascinating game?
I'm saying it's garbage and hurt the label before BG1. Interplay published lots of games, people weren't so label focused back then.
People are actually way more focused on the actual developer versus the publisher these days.
Of course Interplay released games. Even Nintendo releases bad games. I'm just saying, BG was published by one of the biggest names in PC RPGs.
And I'm saying that didn't matter with regards to the bonafides of Bioware. No-names make good RPGs more often than big names.
It really did matter, bg1 got a lot of attention and good marketing because of it.
99% of the people who bought bg1 probably didn't even realize the game wasn't made by interplay lol
No. BG1 sold more than any other Interplay RPG. I know you think these names are big because you heard of Fallout.
And here comes the revisionism.
>actually because Baldur's Gate sold better than any game yet no one ever heard of any of these games
>this weakass gaslight
lol
>BG1 coasted on Interplay's name.
>Sold more than any game released by Interplay except Descent, which isn't an RPG.
Look, I know you've heard of the rep Interplay formed after BG1, but at the time it wasn't a big contributor. BG1 was by a no-name dev and it blew up, then Interplay cashed in on that. I really don't know why you kids get off about making shit up about the past.
I know you have a really low IQ and can't understand these things but let me spell out slowly so your brain can keep up.
>Interplay was a publisher that had brand recognition in the 90s as well as connections
>Having the Interplay logo helped get Baldur's Gate get publicity and marketing which let to it getting popular
>It then sold very well because it is one of the best RPGs ever made but it didn't go under the radar or get ignored
Just because you were old enough to be playing RPGs before Baldur's Gate was released doesn't mean other people here weren't. Stop larping.
Interplay didn't even think it would sell well. They contributed jack squat to the scenario. I think you don't realize how incompetent Interplay was. Bioware made a good game and Interplay profited.
Wasteland is pretty good dude
I liked Wasteland 2 and 3 a lot, actually. Especially 3. It doesn't have that replay value of 10 million builds though.
I don't need darkcodex anymore
>The new expansion is going to be filled with feats modders made in in just a day because they were bored.
>they are adding boring archetypes and feats instead of creating new mythic path and fixing existing mythic path with content and new abilities.
That one isn't getting added to the game though
Also the feats are coming in with the update, not the dlc
Still sucks tho.
>>they are adding boring archetypes
Frick you I want to be a werewolf
I concur, Shifter is really fun and is better than being cursed with lycanthropy.
>>they are adding boring archetypes and feats instead of creating new mythic path
No shit. Who the frick has that kind of expectation still?
They're NEVER going to add a mythic path, they've already said so
not sure why anyone wants more mythic paths when half the ones already in the game are missing so much content.
yeah, their biggest mistake with this game was adding too many.
And they already cut it by 100% from their initial draft of full starter paths
>100% from their initial draft of full starter paths
how many paths were there initially? I only remeber there used to a pheonix mythic path and a vampire one that got cut
Original idea was 14.
>14
Talk about being too ambitious. They can barely fix their games. it would have been much better if they had just made four mythic paths (Angel, Azata,, demon and Aeon) and focused on them. make Trickster a sub path of Azata just like Devil and make it possible to switch from one mythic path to another at act 5 or either go Legend as a alt pah
>Talk about being too ambitious.
That was before they even started to actually write them, to be fair. The pitched ideas for what was interesting
>make Trickster a sub path of Azata j
Absolutely moronic
>Absolutely moronic
It's also absolutely moronic to allow Azata to become a Devil. it makes less sense than a Aeon becoming a devil. Trickster should have been a sub-path to Azata or Demon and Devil should have been available to both Angel and Aeon. Legend should have just been hard mode where you just only have your initial mythic powers instead of becoming a lvl 40 chad that needs no mythic powers to rape Demons
Thank god you were not responsible for anything.
People who look up broken builds and play with them haven't really beaten the game. You only really win if you make subpar to bad RP builds, like putting 10 into Hellknight for Regil.
>subpar to bad
Progressing HK for Regill gives him domains and he can get good ones. Frees up some slots for Sosiel or whoever else is the domain bawd. Progressing most companions in their set path is not subpar in this game. It's at worst non viable for unfair, but only like 2 of your non full spellcaster companions are.
Thaat's nice and all but a cleric + domains is always going to be better than a hellknight
The only thing a cleric is probably not better of in a party is a wizard/sorc.Which was not the point of the discussion anyway, but rather what constitues bad/subpar buidls for characters. Assuming we use no mercs, piling up more domains in the party is good. Same reason people turn Lann into a domain capable class.
So whatever you plan for Reg, Hk to 8 is not suboptimal
DesnaGODS WWA?
I'm currently playing azata as a CN inquisitor of Desna, I'll anyone who does anything Desna doesn't like
>troon build
Desna is actually really based.
>one of the most ancient deities in the setting
>speaks through dreams
>best alignment
>followers are mostly clerics
>nearly destroyed a demon lord because one o her mortal followers was being fricked with
>nearly destroyed a demon lord
>nearly
>Thought Iomedae was the cooler goddess and Desna was just sunshine and rainbows
>play as a Angel and instantly started hating Iomedae
>Play as a Azata and than hear how butterfly mommy nuked a demon lord because it killed one of her follower.
>Also mentally broke a Succ into being a lovey-dovey succubus and than later turn her into a Azata
Best goddess ever. Too bad there is no way to play a Paladin with her as your goddess and 2e Champion just sucks
Now that is a good lvl 1 Hagbound. Not really a playful smug faced b***h i wanted for a demon. But it's good.
She is at the very beginning of her path to the transformation and acquiring immense power.
Take Gyronna as a deity and you are good to go. Hulrun encounter gonna be pure kino.
On a side note, i recently played as an Elemental Rampager. When i got dat wolfie aspect. Holy frick, trip on demand. I was so excited the game synchronized with me. I had so many natural 20s, Even Staunton got wrecked lying helplessly on the floor.
Think the new shifter forms will look good?
The tiger form looking moronic was enough for my autistic ass to drop the class even though it‘s pretty fun
They'll just reuse the Kingmaker ones with better quality
Is it worth it to play hafling for mount variety if I'm doing a mounted character? Really not interested in playing a horse user..
Aside from the fact that there are more large mounts, with a little patience you caride everything eventually. Halflinsg do have a nice unique archetype in Cavalier of the Paw though
Only the "character builds" are complex when the vast majority are trash and should never be used.
>Only the "character builds" are complex when the vast majority are trash and should never be used.
We, I guess all possible permutations include shit like taking 1 level per class with cap of 20 when you have 25 classes with at least 5 archetypes each, so you are technically correct.
They should have cut out 2 out of every subclass and just made several missing classes.
Meh, shit like mesmerist or psychic woudl not work well with this kind of format owlcat doesand shit like samurai and ninja is redundant. And the effort with plenty of the archetypes that just borrow mechanics from different classes does no tstop them if they actually want to put the work in to implement brawler or summoner
I agree. honestly the biggest issue with me for pathfinder is, it doesn't matter the class. It's:
Prebuff
Save
Kill everything on the map
Save
But that is just DND pretty much.
That's any RPG with boring encounter design, whether it has prebuffing or save anywhere or not. You find a winning formula and repeat it.
Is Swarm the least popular mythic path? I can't seem to find much discussion about it and any case why would you want to become 18 gorillion locusts?
I thought Swarm would make for a cool caster but it isn't a caster at all. Its not even a druid offshoot, it's closer to a monk.
It's the most esoteric one and all your companions leave you.
>and any case why would you want to become 18 gorillion locusts?
This is the obvious thing literally everyone asks you because the guy you meet who is a swarm wasn't exactly willing. Sure, he started going full swarm but you may as well when you're some insect swarm demon lord's b***h at that point.
Worshipers of Lamashtu are a good fit for it because she loves ugly monstrosities. A worshiper of Irori can even applaud him on going all the way and achieving a sort of perfection.
Swarm is the least popular but incredibly fun. It's weak on Mythic 8, but 9th rank make us basically invincible and immune to everything relevant.
>why would you want to become 18 gorillion locusts?
why would you deal deal with anoying NPCs while you can just eat them (including Trannevia)?
No that's the devil path. Swarm and Gold dragon atleast has some players and have some abilities for mr 10, Devil gets nothing. Also merged spellbook swarm rocks, you can merge either as a Angel or lich and than go swarm which will give all of your clones your merged spellbook which will allow you to spam storms of justice or negative eruption every turn.
Assassin got homebrewed.
Still not sure if there is a reason to take assassin over 10 vivi/slayer levels, but hey.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1184370/view/3749867242854891328?l=english
It seems actually fun now, made me want to play one turn based
is there an arena mode for this? I just want the combat but don't want to play low magic age. i understand the first game has dlc like this, but I thought the 2nd has more classes and skills which was why I was asking about it.
Midnight isles dlc.