wtf its just running from one city to another to watch one boring conversation after another
how is this killing WoW?
wtf its just running from one city to another to watch one boring conversation after another. how is this killing WoW?
wtf its just running from one city to another to watch one boring conversation after another
how is this killing WoW?
first MMO?
WoW is dying on its own.
MMO babies who have literally never touched another game nor woman in their life will lead you to believe this is the epitome of gaming. Move on OP, there's greener pasture far away from whatever wasteland MMO's crawled from.
Recommendations?
eve online
>eve online
maybe 10 years ago not today
Try 20 years ago
runescape, non ironically. The mmo genre peaked with it and it never got better.
MMOs are just idle games with gameplay anyway.
Elden Ring
Divinity: Original Sin 2
Factorio
Wasteland 3
Hitman 3
Yakuza 0
Bioshock
None. MMO is a dead genre
Shadowlands actually has a lot of time spent traveling+listening to gays talk
troony series with shit gameplay. no one cares
It just endures while WoW is killing itself
WoW is killing WoW. This just happens to exist that the same time. As someone who put hundreds of hours into FFXIV and generally enjoyed myself, it does get better after a long goddamn time and several expansions, but it's still not worth that time investment.
As someone starting out, just made it to Dragoon, what tips can you give me for enjoying the game? Where does the best time lie?
And don't just say "quit"
Fellow drg player here. It gets good at the very end of heavensward. Your rotation feels fuller and then it comes full circle at the end of stormblood.
Not him but I didn't like Dragoon till maybe Lv 60 or so, once you start getting a fuller kit. I think most DPS don't get fun till 50 to be honest, and prefer Tanking at low levels cause at least you're doing more.
MSQ doesn't get good till the last few dungeons of ARR (so basically, Lv 50). The bits that set up Heavensward vary from okay to great, with a really strong ending right before the expansion. Then you'll start enjoying MSQ.
Story-wise it starts getting your attention at level 40, and gets good once you hit level 50. You're blessed by having started LNC (I assume) and having one of the better class questlines to look forward to between main story which probably helped contribute a lot to me gunning through ARR faster than most.
There is a lull immediately after it gets good at 50, but a few patch stories before you hit Heavensward it gets fantastic and keeps that up for a good long while.
Gameplay-wise, nothing will fundamentally change. The game will throw more unique mechanics at you and be harder on your reflexes, but no challenge will be had in the main story. I recommend after hitting level 50 looking into the Binding Coil of Bahamut questline and taking a break from the main story to do that if you're specifically looking for a challenge.
Also, a lot of the sidequests open up at 50, so you can check out other activities like the Extreme mode primals, Palace of the Dead, Crystal Tower.
Basically, to enjoy the game immerse yourself in the story, don't worry if the gameplay is too slow for now, and check out the 8-party and 24-party questlines when they become available.
>MMO
>99.99999% of the gameplay is spent speaking to npcs and not traveling with your squad
>everyone says to skip every side quest in the main story quests to get to the dlc and do raids
what's the point?
Player Housing.
Unlockable hairstyles and cosmetic options.
Eyebrows and ears don't clip through helmets.
24 entire dances, opposed to 1 that is racial-locked.
Gear icons match the gear's model 99% of the time.
All emotes are animated instead just a line of emote text.
Crafting and gathering are more than just 'click button, make things'.
All armor is unique, fully modeled and rigged, opposed to painted on textures.
Unlockable emotes/dances that are added every few patches so you can always do more with your character.
All classes, from crafters to battle to gather, have unique questlines, weapons, and armor that emphasize the class fantasy.
No week-long raid lockout so you can keep farming anything you like for as long as you like aside from the most current content.
Presentation, when it comes to story and especially raid encounters. The soundtrack also plays a part in that, I look forward to each new encounter just to hear the theme.
The devs actually care about their game and have good PR, opposed to their employees all having personal twitter accounts where they spew their political ideologies or bash white men.
FFXIV has systems in the game purely for the player to enjoy. The Gold Saucer is a perfect example of this, meanwhile in WoW the only thing that makes an attempt at this the Darkmoon Faire.
Hair doesn't disappear when you put on a hat, sometimes even repositioned in an aesthetic way to make it work, opposed to hairstyles completely disappearing if you put on a piece of head gear in WoW.
End-game currencies that act as built-in bad luck protection, with which you can purchase and augment good gear, and which keeps you from feeling like you wasted your time when you didn't get any drops in a raid.
The story is pure unadulterated kino, the villains in FFXIV actually have agendas that the player can agree with, opposed to stuff like Deathwing where the villain just wants to destroy the world for seemingly zero reason.
>He sucks at reading
>He skipped every cutscene
>He bought a skip
Honestly if you fall into any of these categories I can see why you fail to see how kino FFXIV is. As Jesse Cox compared the two games:
>WoW is an MMORPG
>FFXIV is an RPGMMO
Everything in FFXIV is there to help the story, and my god, is it the most immersive shit I've ever played, as said, WoW pales in comparison to just how immersive the experience it.
WoW's Nigerian Pixar art style isn't doing it any favors, either.
>rpg
>where you can't customize your character in non cosmetic ways
>where you have literally 0 agency in the story
lol
It's not an rpg and certainly not immersive
>where you have literally 0 agency in the story
what the frick are you talking about, Black person?
from the very first cutscene you are recognized as an important part of the story as the warrior of light, and everyone you come across acknowledges it
Compare it SWTOR where even though you always end up in the same place, you can make a lot of very different choices when doing story that will have spreading repurcussions
that anon means you have no way to influence the story at all, like change what happens
I can think of a few examples, like how if you don't do the unending coils of bahamut questline before starting Heavensward, Alisae is a total c**t towards you instead of "it's you omg, remember that time we saved Eorzea?"
Cool, one example compared to SWTOR which has multiple choices in just about every single quest and dungeon. Not saying one is better than the other, but to say FF14 has choices is just not right.
>one example
Yeah, I haven't been playing long, I just started the game recently
>SWTOR
We're comparing WoW to FFXIV, pay attention and try not to move the goalposts
>Meanwhile in WoW the player agency and impactful story decisions are....
>Uhhh....
>UUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHH...............
>*coughs up blood*
>*fricking dies*
>We're comparing WoW to FFXIV, pay attention and try not to move the goalposts
I'm the OP so I can do what I want b***hbreasts
Someone brought up choices in MMO stories and SWTOR is the king of this so it was relevant to the discussion. Sorry it worked too well to counter your point.
>I'm the OP so I can do what I want b***hbreasts
Delete this thread, pussy
>from the very first cuscene you have 0 influence and are just touted as very important super destiny hero because the japs can't write
Was this supposed to sound good?
It doesn't sound good if you come from WoW, where you're "COMMANDER" and "CHAMPION"'d every single goddamn expansion
Because the WoW writers are fricking hacks and suck at writing stories
The story in FFXIV recognizes that you're an important part of the story and it isn't fricking annoying like in WoW
Incredible, I know
>i-its different when they scream WOL instead of CHAMPION
No it's not
And you still have 0 agency ergo not an RPG
so ff7 isn't an rpg either?
Correct
On the rails stories are not rpgs
most people will disagree with you
jrpg vs wrpg
Weeaboos who have never touched a proper rpg don't get to speak, their brains are rotten and they hold Persona and Dragon Quest in high regard
>Player Housing.
is a trap to trick you into being subbed forever
>muh aesthetic shit
nobody cares about this garbage. i'm playing a videogame not barbie dolls
>muh emote shit
literally nobody cares about this garbage. i'm playing a videogame not playing house or pretend sex
>Gear icons match the gear's model 99% of the time.
WHO CARES
>Crafting and gathering are more than just 'click button, make things'.
yeah instead it's just "look up macro, use macro". real fricking improvement
>muh unique questlines muh story
gay shit. this is a videogame, if i wanted to read a story i would just grab a book
>No week-long raid lockout so you can keep farming anything you like for as long as you like aside from the most current content.
of course you can, because the gear gets synced so it doesn't fricking matter anyway
>soundtrack
listen to real music you fricking loser homosexual
>The devs actually care about their game and have good PR, opposed to their employees all having personal twitter accounts where they spew their political ideologies or bash white men.
shut the frick up square enix has always been asian EA
>FFXIV has systems in the game purely for the player to enjoy. The Gold Saucer is a perfect example of this, meanwhile in WoW the only thing that makes an attempt at this the Darkmoon Faire.
nobody cares about shitty filler minigames.
>End-game currencies that act as built-in bad luck protection, with which you can purchase and augment good gear, and which keeps you from feeling like you wasted your time when you didn't get any drops in a raid.
This is only a problem in WoW because the moronic devs keep trying to milk the players over letting them have fun.
No arguments.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/final-fantasy-xiv-has-me-sold-farewell-wow/1093752/15
It's amazing how brain-rotted the WoWbucks have become
>nothing matters except muh gameplay!
>why yes i want to only log in to do the weekly simon says challenge with the bros to get gear that will become useless next patch
god i fricking hate raidtrannies
Go back to second life, homosexuals. Trying to use an MMO as a surrogate for your miserable life is what killed MMOs.
Yeah, I know, on account that I have no plans on starting HRT.
>Trying to use an MMO as a surrogate for your miserable life is what killed MMOs.
Really?
>I’m a massive homosexual who wasted his life on WoW and can’t cope
Calm down sir
One day you raid players will realize you are what killed mmos.
The game isnt for you. Simple as.
Genuinely can't grasp why autists think vomiting
>argument
IT'S SHIT LMAO
for an entire post is gonna win anyone over to their perspective. The bottom line is people clearly do care about the shit you disregard or the devs wouldn't bother with them. Keep seething though homosexual.
^This. FFXIV is a feature complete videogame. WoW is a skinner treadmill and you are just starting to notice the water that started to heat up with the sparkle pony twelve years ago is finally boiling you.
Because WoW doesn't need any help dying.
the content drought peroids of FFXIV are unbearable idk how you weebs put up with this shit
>have a wowfugee friend that recently started playing the game
>he calls gil "gold"
>he calls jobs "specs"
>he calls glamours "mogs"
>he calls crafters and gatherers "professions"
>he calls plugins "addons"
>he calls examining "inspecting"
>he calls free companies "guilds"
>he calls the market board "auction house"
>he calls minions "pets"
free company is a pretty obtuse term for a guild
>He never did the Darnassus to Stormwind run
absolute shitter
A run you have to do once per character.
FF14 has that run ad infinitum.
I don't give a shit about wow or any western game
>A few of the people that made the WoW and FFXIV cinematics were hired onto James Cameron's CGI team for the Avatar movie
No wonder it looked so good
>killing WoW
it's remained a niche game that technically falls into the MMO genre, despite most of the content being singleplayer story stuff
it has nowhere near the numbers and mass appeal that WoW has, and I think that's actually good for the game, it can be it's own niche thing instead of trying to maximize sales like WoW does
>despite most of the content being singleplayer story stuff
I always thought SWTOR did it better anyway, especially since it gave you choices on whether to be good or evil in the story and choosing to let people live or die.
all mmos are shit my man
firstly it was a social media with a bad game strapped to it
now its ERP playground for a degenerates that pretend to play the game part
Congrats, you got filtered. Less WoW Black folk the better
Stay out of our game, thanks
why are 14 trannies proud of their game being bad?
>bad
moron moment? Wowbucks liking it would mean it's bad
ARR is objectively dogshit
that's why they tried to fix it and only partially were successful
>coil is dogshit
>ct is dogshit
>all the extremes are dogshit
>arr dungeons are dogshit
how about no?
The story doesn't pick up until level 30, but that's completely fine
i think you'll find that a game literally taking 100 hours to "get good" is generally considered to be fricking abysmal design
and even in heavensward its still just
>walk to npc
>watch cutscene
>repeat 5 or 6 times in a row
>faceroll easy fight
>return to step 1
for everything outside of dungeons, and even in dungeons you just spam the same rotation you use on everything else and move out of some telegraphed aoes
>b-but WoW is also-
you are mindbroken by wow, it being bad doesn't somehow mean that 14 isn't shit too, they're both garbage
Just think of how bad WoW is if this is all it takes to kill it
I gave the trial a shot some time ago and I was shocked at how unbelievably boring it was tbh. Flushed it down the toilet after the ARR credits. It barely knows whether it wants to be a FF game or a MMORPG too
I had a crippling WoW addiction for years, the devs are the ones that killed WoW and they did a huge favor to every addict like me by ruining the game and freeing us.
XIV is just a good single player game you play once every couple of years when a new xpac comes out. They haven't completely ruined the story like WoW so it's just a fun game to play in short bursts for people that like MMO combat. It's like Xenoblade in that regard except you have like 2 or 3 fights where you're forced to group in XIV. I personally think the past 2 XIV expansions are just way better than everything Xenoblade does but you have to slog through the pretty shit first expansions to get there.
wow is for furriers
ff14 is for pedophiles
wrong, WoW is for pedophiles AND furries
WoW is for normalhomosexuals
GW2 is for troony degenhomosexuals
FF14 is for completely unhinged weebhomosexuals
>WoW is for normalhomosexuals
Pffff, what decade do you live in?
>ff14 is for pedophiles
Wow do wowies try so desperately to push this angle? Nobody finds lalas attractive and they look nothing like actual children.
I wish they would make the kanne senna race playable but modern SE would never allow it.
> Nobody finds lalas attractive and they look nothing like actual children.
homie cmon
ive seen these threads
dont lie to me
Well ya some degenerates find them attractive, like pretty much any living thing. My point being they're more like goblin and dwarf girls in fetish category than actual little kids.
they look like babies and you know that
babu babu!
>they're more like goblin and dwarf girls in fetish category than actual little kids.
it's the same handful of lalafell players responding to each other it's kind of like whenever people bring up femroes and then threads go to complete shit or at least more shit that usual
i would think that if i hadn't had 1k hours in the game
i only think this cause it's the same morons always posting there characters im guessing they're too annoying for the morons on xivg to even put up with so they come here for their attention
LITERALLY only wowgays like lalafells
lala players and erp degenerates made me quit the game
best decision of my life
i knew that it will be present in the game
but holy shit they are EVERYWHERE
WoW devided its memelords up across factions. No such limitations exist in XIV so they are inescapable. I love XIV and it replaced WoW for me 8 years ago but Lallafel players are at best degens and at worst "That Guy" who would be a Tauren, Dwarf, Gnome or Vulpera in WoW.
You all know That Guy i'm talking about.
tbf i don't know how is WoW community now (i played 10 or so years ago when cataclysm was about to come out)
but i stopped playing ff14 when 2 people start to erp in the fricking dungeon
>he didnt play alliance in vanilla and see that shit every time he used the deeprun tram to head to stormwind
>every
>time
the conversations and story get interesting after the first 500 hours
>how is this killing WoW?
Playing a dangerous game. I posted this pic when someone asked why WoW has been getting worse and got banned for "off-topic"
>how is this killing WoW?
Because WoW cares more about making troony NPCs and removing "offensive" content. FFXIV cares more about making fun fights.
That's just how bad WoW is.
When is the last time WoW sent you to another city rather than idling in the same one with its surrounding daily/world quests directly adjacent?
Hard to sell an mmo that acts like each expansion is vaccum sealed away from all the others. The whole points meant to be a world and that means going to places as though they dont stop existing once their expansions over.
>Call it WORLD of Warcraft
>More and more of the world becomes obsolete with each expansion release
WAKE ME UP
Both WoW and FF14 have their pitfalls. At least WoW has the sense to keep its quest objectives in the same region as the person who gives you the quest. FF14 will give you a quest in region A, send you to region B to talk to a guy for 10 seconds, then send you back to A to hand it in, then to C for another chat, then back to A like a boomerang just to chat to random NPCs
Friend thats what mmos are. WoW is the standout that functions like a chinese mobile game.
After playing wow since mid BC and recently swapping over to XIV about a year ago, you have to be completely trapped in the maze to unironically say that modern and classic WoW are better than XIV. XIV mogs WoW in almost every single area that isn’t raiding and even that still isn’t too far behind and has plenty of its own strengths like not wasting a copious amount of your time rezzing and rebuffing. I spent over a decade playing WoW and only about a year on XIV and I can confidently say that XIV is the better game, anyone who disagrees is unironically a mindbroken WoWbuck
>terrible dungeons
>terrible classes
>terrible pvp
>terrible netcode
It fails in anything gameplay related. Off yourself gay
Why did you just describe WoW?
>even pretending like WoW has bad netcode
Advanced coping
It does lmao. Half the things that people want added aren’t possible because of a netcode issue, XIV is no different but to try and say WoW is any better is pure buttered up cope.
Play the better game and be happier, anon.
Wow is indisputably the smoothest mmo on the market
WoW doesn't have 500ms to do everything and need packet editors to fix your ping
I'm already playing the better game. It's clearly not the one made by the moronic slant eyes who code on par with pajeets
>game is FLUID that means it’s BETTER
>IGNORE THE LACK OF CONTENT PLEASE SIR
>IGNORE ME BEING FORCED TO LOG ON EVERY DAY
>I-I ENJOY BEING A WOWBUCK
/wowg/ makes fun of you cucks for a reason
XIV will always mog your shitty game.
t. Played WoW for 12 years
they were talking about netcode specifically
both games are shit but one is smooth shit and the other is crossplay shit
i haven't given a single frick about WoW since BfA and it's frankly sad you think those two are the only two videogames in existence and that you must either play one of the other
you're just a rat stuck in a different maze.
>WoWbucks and that one XI schizo spam mudsling threads for years
>y-you’re the schizo
Lmao get the frick out of here
When did I move goalposts? I admitted XIV has shit netcode, but gameplay is something that modern WoW simply lacks on all fronts. PvP is dead and populated by nothing but boosters, M+ is too easy, my friends were doing 20s week 2 easily, raiding is a boring slog from the moment you start getting stuck on an overturned boss, and world content is and has been a joke for years.
Keep trying all you want, but the fact is that you know everything I’m saying is right deep down but you refuse to accept that you wasted years on a shit game that used to be decent
>my friends were doing 20s week 2 easily
Why make your larp so obvious?
>you’re better than me so it must be a larp
Season 3 is a joke
s3 is week 70 not week 2
>forgets that every patch might as well be the start of an expac in terms of gear level
lol
lmao
I was still on 20s week 2 season 1 either way, if you aren’t dogshit it isn’t hard
>forgets that every patch might as well be the start of an expac in terms of gear level
In no way is that true, you start the 1st season at m0 ilvl
s3 m0 is way lower than you would be with end of s2 gear
>I was still on 20s week 2 season 1 either way
please you really need to work on your larp its just weak
>moron doesn’t know his own game which he violently defends
Season 1 starts at the opening of the first raid tier, pushing 20s by week 2 was not hard if you had a good group. Just admit that not only is your game dogshit but you are also dogshit at said dogshit game. If you love the game so much then maybe you should learn to do something actually difficult instead of spamming 15s over and over.
Oh ya, XIV raiding is harder than WoW raiding. Sorry
>moving the goal posts
lol
So again, WoW blows xiv out in everything gameplay related. And given that they're supposed to be games and not books written for the Japanese equivalent of adult Harry Potter fans, that's all that matters.
You are a moron. XIV literally has to make concessions because it's a fricking console game, and the garbage netcode with the frickhuge GCD is one of those concessions. The only person coping here is you.
holy frick there alot of seething wowbucks in this thread
I love both FFXIV and WoW Classic.
WoW story is so dogshit, FFXIV actually deludes people into thinking its story is good.
>play wow
>trannies are on twitter instead of ingame
>if you see a troony you can go up to it and type "kys troon" without consequence
>can call people Black folk if they act like Black folk in raids without consequence
>play xiv
>daily gay parades
>say anything negative
>get banned forever
Yeah no never playing this shit
are on twitter instead of ingame
You got that the other way around.
WoW is being played by neckbeards who think the game is still as good as it used to be while Blizzard filled the game with canon troony/gay characters and openly talks about muh progressiveness and inclusion.
While FFXIV has no trannies in the game - The developers do not give a shit about the gays - But gay twitter trannies keep circlejerking around the game.
yes but the troony players make it worse. I can ignore the npcs since story and lore is irrelevant since its a FRICKING GAME but i cant ignore the fricking players spamming trans rights and other bullshit in dungeons or the constant gay parades everywhere
>makes female clothes accessible to males
homie both games are infested to no end
Are you stupid or just baiting? WoW has allowed males to wear female clothes since vanilla. And now look as you can put a male voice on a female character and vise versa. WoW is the defacto troony game
I am saying that both games are gay as frick
and having competition like
>your erp playground is gayer then mine
is moronic
What the frick are you talking about
WoW has a ton of items that only display in a particular way on females
Pretty much all the bawdmog is exclusively female
>say something by not even against terms of service
>WoW players mass report you and get you banned within seconds with 0 actual moderation
This is cope
it's got a lot of content
it doesn't have to be good, there just needs to be a lot of it
also lots of troony ERP
oh and wow is actually somehow worse now if you can believe it
because it atleast tries to be a game, i honestly believe wow absolutely mogged xiv before wod but it just has been homosexual and troony pandering non stop over there and while xiv does this a bit aswell they still realize they have a game to run and it isnt the whole focus of the game, but in wow every patch is just nig shit, gay shit and troony shit
another day another seething wowbuck
Nobody is playing WoW anymore. Even /wowg/ is more of a FFXIV general than a WoW general. Nobody there is subbed. It's just people shitting on the game and making jokes about it with the janny being last defender of Blizzards dignity.
MMO players are literally mindbroken
in what other genre do people invest hundreds of hours to do the exact same content over and over and over again?
is it autism?
Dragonflight is looking great dood
Theyre listening this time dood
why do you ff andys gotta be so weird dood....
>homosexual mmo player values opinion of e-celeb
yep, checks out
>complains about issues in order to generate drama
>gets people to watch him and click on his videos
>collects money
>proceeds to carry on b***hing about the game and generating drama
>does this for every expansion
easy money when most don't see the pattern
Both games have some features that the other lacks, but the worst thing about FFXIV is the monetization. There's always some overly expensive cosmetic shit to buy ATOP your subscription
>but but cosmetic but but optional
No fricking excuse. Don't justify this nonsense. Cosmetic content is no lesser than other content. FFXIV is far worse than WoW here - don't get me wrong WoW is nowhere near perfect but A) even comparing the two now there's a lot less stuff to buy for WoW and its more focused on pets and mounts B) Much of it was at least a charity thing at the start or ther was some other way to get it and C) holiday shit is free. FFXIV has a frickload of stuff to buy including outfits and housing decorations, and the holiday stuff is NOT available when the holiday comes around again, you need to pay for it a la carte. If it was like ARR when there were like 3 things to buy that came from JP in person fan fests and then missed holiday items that cost $1-3 IF you wanted to buy them in the off season etc.. that would be a reasonable compromise. However it has gone totally fricking out of hand with $18 outfits all the fricking time and plenty of other expensive shit.
could be worse, it could be gw2 and have a giant glowing "PLEASE USE OUR CASH SHOP" button that doens't go away
Yeah, it could always be worse and GW2 is its own problem (I've not played for years) but that doesn't mean FFXIV is acceptable. GW2 is a buy to play non-sub title atop it so even though I think some of their shit is stupidly overpriced and I'd rather a sub model, FFXIV is the worst of both worlds where you're paying a sub and they're saying "Oh did you want these emotes? That will be another $7 pe emote! Did you want the outfits? The school uniform and the fancy armor and the street clothes and the asian inspired shit? $18 each thank you. Mounts are $25-45 , but you want to be able to have a picnic on top of a whale and take 8 of your friends to the moon like in FFIV right?"? Its so fricking frustrating. Any small minded smoothbrain who says "I don't care its cosmetic hurrr" would likely pitch a huge fit if it affected another part of the game, but the fact of the matter is that cosmetic content is no different than any other content and its shitty to make all your money essentially "taxing" people who like one part of the game but not having the balls to do so for others.
I wish they wouldn't have that shit to begin with.
Nothing shatters my immersion like seeing frickers go around in modern street clothes and flying in the fricking car from 15.
Also anyone that spends money on cosmetics is an actual moronic and should be sterilized for the good of humanity.
Playing Wow Classic right now and it does immersion so much better than XIV. FF does have its moments but most of the time im not feeling it
The trouble with FFXIV's is because of the company as a whole. XIV is not just Squares most profitable game its also the only thing other than NieR Automata in the last 15+ years that hasn't at best performed under expectations with a conga line of failures from shit like The Quiet Man and Murdered Soul Suspect to The Avengers and Kingdom Hearts 3.
Which means that all that content in XIV? those regular updates? the subs not paying for it. The cash shop is. Because that sub money is life support for Square. Its funnelled off to shit like FFXV, KH3 and Avengers like a intestinal worm feeding on someones guts.
So the cash shop milks glamourprostitutes and memelords to pay for fan fest and the games development. Its supremely fricked and i hate it but just this week they tried to get people excited for FF7 NFT's so its basically a bastion of sanity in a company desperate to run itself into the ground and this is the only way it keeps going.
At least its a seperate thing on a website at least. WoW being a sub mmo with a cash shop button on the side of the hotbar is fricking revolting.
If they can't keep the game running without exclusive cosmetics, I'd rather have it and all games fail. This is akin to saying "but I can't keep the company afloat without using slave labor and dumping untreated chemical waste in the water supply? HOW WILL THE SHAREHOLDERS PROFIT?!" and the answer is always to frick off and die.
FFXIV has been successful especially in the past couple of years since the WoW Exodus so even their subs have gone up tremendously. Having all the money taken out to go to other projects or claiming that the subs aren't paying for the updates is bullshit on someone's part, be it SE's devs or otherwise. This isn't some sort of "Oh they can't afford it otherwise" thing, this is just the same "we think we can get you homosexuals to pay for it, so fricking pay" and its just sickening. Even WoW has better monetization because it doesn't have anywhere near as much, as frequently released etc...exclusive cash shop cosmetics.
really simple, you dont have to be online all the time to do anything and the content isnt time gated most of the time. you can go back to certain raids/dungeons and do them as someone did 2-8 years ago.
XIV AND WOW ARE SAME CUTSCENE HORSESHIT STOP MAKING THREADS WHERE WE PRETEND ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER. MMOS ARE DEAD AND THESE TWO ARE RAPING ITS CORPSE
haha bird haha silly bird
XIV filtered me out the moment I wanted to play an actual healer in a group based game
wow is killing itself