wyrdeer is a regional evolution
farigiraf is a cross gen evolution
know the difference and have a good day.
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wyrdeer is a regional evolution. farigiraf is a cross gen evolution. know the difference and have a good day.
None of those evolve from regional forms though.
girafarig evolution isnt dependant on the region.
stantler meanwhile phisically cannot evolve outside of hisui. even its dex entry in sv support that fact.
wyrdeer is a regional evolution no matter how you look at it
You mean it can't evolve when it's weaker, yes. It's evo method has nothing to do with being in Hisui specifically.
> It's evo method has nothing to do with being in Hisui specifically
it can literally only evolve in hisui anon
Because so far, Hisui is the only known environment that basically tells Stantler "git gud or risk extinction" that forces it to achieve its true potential and evolve into Wyrdeer.
Odds are next gen will feature a similar environment somewhere to allow Stantler to evolve once again.
Sound like a lot of cope right there. the costal biome of the blueberry academy perfectly recreate the climate of alola, yet eggxecute can’t evolve into alolan exeggutor in it, clearly regional forms and evolutions like wyrdeer and kleavor are tied to something in their region that physically cannot be replaced outside of it.
Kleavor only requires a Scyther to be exposed to Black Augurite to evolve. Wouldn't you know it though, that's what the Canyon Biome in Blueberry's Terarium is full of on account of the presence of Wild Kleavor!
>Kleavor only requires a Scyther to be exposed to Black Augurite to evolve
Yes. A material only found in hisui that doesn’t exist outside of it.
>b-but muh kleavor in the canyon
same situation as alolan exeggutor: all imported from their respective regions
>that doesn’t exist outside of it.
*as far as we currently know
Hisui is no longer a region, and they got that Kleavor from somewhere.
stop arguing with the schizo, no matter what you say, she will just use her mental gymnastics to justify her stupidity
So you're telling me that SWSH and SV actually take place DURING the era of Hisui, because canonically, Hisui becomes Sinnoh and some aspects of Hisui are lost in the process? Damn, bro, what the frick were they doing over there with all of that technological obliviousness? Rest of the world already had fricking Rotom phones and hyper-advanced energy plans.
>girafarig evolution isnt dependant on the region.
In what other regions can you get a Farigiraf?
Kitakami and unova
In 2010 did you think Magnezone, Leafeon, and Glaceon were also regional evolutions? They could only evolve in Sinnoh and not the latest game and people who wanted to use them there had to trade up.
>In 2010 did you think Magnezone, Leafeon, and Glaceon were also regional evolutions?
No, the newest games were remakes and crowbaring shit in to make the evos work would have been stupid.
They could have just included a special rock/magnets in an appropriate location, exactly like they did in later games
Or just made them evolve with a stone, exactly like they did in later games
>they could’ve have just make the game not faithful to the original
way to misd the point of a Pokémon remake, kid
HGSS already changed many things from the original. In the case of magnetic fields, could have even used the existing Power Plant area that has electric types in the surrounding area easily. Same thing with the Seafoam Islands you find Articuno (not in the original games)
Or they could have used the GenIII approach and just cut them from the game :^)
#UmbreonJustice4Hoenn
skill issue
>d-doesn’t count!
Remake or not, it was canon at the time that they only evolved in one region WHILE BEING AVAILABLE in the remake. Btw remakes weren’t what they are now. Back then remakes were still the flagship game with every Pokemon to that date and took over the current meta. It was not faithful.
Again, no part of the evo requirements are intrinsic to the region, so it’s not regional.
Regional forms and evolutions didn’t exist back then as a concept,
they do now.
why are you so angry about that? You know you can like a Pokémon even if it’s not a real cross gen evo right?
>didn’t exist back then
And right now they only exist for regional forms anon.
>And right now they only exist for regional forms anon.
clearly not since whyrdeer IS a regional evolution. i dont get why this fact make you seethe so much tough
The same way Magnezone, Leafeon, and Glaceon were, yes. They were only able to evolve in a single region at that point because an unrelated gameplay evo trigger happened to only exist in a single region at that time.
>d-doesn’t count!
>it was canon
Now refute Umbreon in Hoenn!
marketing tool to make autistic eeveegays buy Pokémon colosseum
Reads like
>d-doesn’t count!
to me
>You can evolve Eevee in new game that has an internal clock
>You can't evolve into into it in the game that doesn't have an internal clock
What is there to refute?
It was a Hoennian clock.
>You can evolve Wyrdeer in new game that has Strong/Agile Styles.
>You can't evolve Wyrdeer in new games that doesn't have Strong/Agile Styles.
What was the point of this thread again?
>b-but muh faithful remake
Sv is not a remake, son. You would have had an argument if magneton was unable to evolve in bw or d see some shit. You know, the start of a new gen?
>Stantler got introduced in Gen II
>Wyrdeer introduced after Generation lost all meaning for games
Somehow that makes it not cross gen
incomprehensible jargon even many long-time fans won't comprehend. it's weird to compare how GF handles these things lately. in Gen 6 they werent sure what the reception to megas would be so none of them were assigned their own pokedex numbers (makes it easy to back out and erase them from existence if reaction was poor), in Gen 7 most regionals again dont have their own dex, but in Gen 8 and 9 they're starting to create increasingly convoluted regional forms/etc. and instead of continuing to make it easy to back out, they're assigning these things dex numbers
in a few years time all of these random evolutions and formes will be looked at as legacy bloat and GF will regret assigning so many of these things dexes because it means theyre kinda stuck with them forever
I think they’re already starting to regret it. Clodsire is the only mon they added in gen 9 to evolve from a regional form of an older mon.
It isn't the new gimmick so it is being phased out. Same as gender differences, hidden abilities, regional forms, etc.
It doesn't matter, they'll only be coming back on special occasions. Unlike the Johto/Sinnoh evos that appear as a guaranteed part of their evo line.
>Unlike the Johto/Sinnoh evos that appear as a guaranteed part of their evo line.
where's kingdra and magnezone in lgpe?
How do I obtain Magnezone or Glaceon in HGSS? It came out after DP.
Umbreon is a regional evolution in Hoenn during gen 3.
>Qwilfish and Stantler both in SV
>Both can still learn Barb Barrage and Psyshield Bash
>But neither can evolve
>DLC area has environments that simulate other regions and can host other regional forms
>This includes a variety of Alolan Pokémon and Hisuian Pokémon
>You can only catch what's there in the wild, your own Stantler or Pikachu won't evolve into their regional forms in these areas even though they're programmed into the game
Why are they like this?
Stantler CANT learn psyshield bash naturally in SV
It can lean it through breeding, just like normal Qwilfish can learn Barb Barrage
Wyrdeer is even programmed to learn it on evolving, even though evolving Stantler is impossible in SV and you'd expect it would have to already know it to evolve
I don't understand why they do shit like this
because gayfreak is lazy and anti-consumer
Add insult to injury, Hisuian Qwilfish can evolve into Overqwil as of TID (Version 3.0.0) so clearly this was something intentional.
Game Freak consciously chose NOT to allow Stantler in the same manner for lore.
Overqwil evolves from a regional form. Wyrdeer does not.
> Overqwil evolves from a regional form.
so does hisuian goodra and yet it’s preevo can’t evolve outside of legends arceus because of the rain composition or some shit
>regional form to another regional form
Not comparable. Both are still level up with the only difference being the region, so the region is the requirement.
Also, you couldn’t evolve regular Sliggoo before the DLC either.
> Also, you couldn’t evolve regular Sliggoo before the DLC either.
I used one a year or so ago in a mono dragon run so so for once its just bulbapedo being a moron and not GF
You CAN evolve regular Sliggoo, you just needed to wait it out until an area started raining because there's no longer a fixed location where it's constantly raining 24/7.
>LET'S SLAP A BEARD ON STANTLER AND CALL IT A NEW POKEMON!
new evolutions for pokemon that came out after gen 4 were a mistake
Week opinion. Pokémon design peaked with Rhydon.
pokemon designs peaked with gen 2 but gen 5 was the last time they were overall good
Ok but why Farigiraf can learn Hyper Voice but Wyrdeer can't?
>mentally defective manchild thinks she speaks for the franchise'
Take your HRT and shut up front-bum.
>all that seething and autism over wyrdeer only being able to evolve in hisui.
damn, you guys need to chill out Jesus Christ. I know you’re mad you couldn’t use best dear mon in sv but that’s no reason to call people name. while I’d love for stantler to br able to evolve in other region, GF chose that it cannot possibly work lorewise. I don’t get why this simple fact anger people do much, it’s not like fans of donphan cry about great tusk and iron thread not being donphan evo whenever they get brought up.
Those are paradox pokemon that reflect IRL evolution instead of Pokemon evolution besicallt being metamorphosis. But Stantler to Wyrdeer only happens to have not happened yet in other regions and it’s autistic to call it region locked when we’ve only had a game since Hisui.
>autistic to call it region locked when we’ve only had a game since Hisui.
Technically it’s been 2 games since FF consider the dlc like third versions but I get what you’re saying. Gf MAY make wyrdeer a natural evolution in future games and that would be cool. I just have no reason to believe they ever will since they didn’t do it for sv+dlc and are pushing the narrative with stantler dex entry that it’s evolution is no longer achievable in any present day region.
*GF*
I mean I don’t think it’s a region thing in that case. That would be a “historical” evolution that depends on it’s psychic abilities, which have waned globally in that case since it can’t evolve anywhere in the modern day.
You know what that’s fair enough… still doesn’t make it a cross gen evolution tough
what about Kleavor and Ursaluna? Can you get them outside of Hisui?
Nope. Regional evolutions too
>explicitly item evolutions
Gamefreak being lazy (ot programming items) isn't an argument for them being a regional evolution. The were even half-baked trying to tell you that by making Scyther spawn in the Terarium and placing a specific spawn zone in the middle where Kleavor appears because of the presence of Black Augurite right in front of your three eyes, but no; shitposting is your oxygen.