I don't care about comparing dick sizes, I'm just happy haptics are being normalised across both systems so that we're more likely to see novel implementations of them at use across third party releases
too bad it has bumpers made of the condensed hopes and dreams of a starving somalian child and the thinnest dogshit plastic ever conceived by humankind
I swear, if they fail yet again to fix the contacts for the ABXY buttons I'm going to shoot somebody. This shit is my absolute biggest pet peeve with Xbox controllers.
It's just as bad as I know. Glossy plastic will get micro scratches, attract fingerprints due to the natural oils in human hands, and look awful because of these things. And dust shows up more on them as well if you're one of those buttholes who buys every different color and special edition they release. And if you're having a grease problem, stop being one of those "beachballs with legs" type people and stop eating all the time.
I just hope this means that we are getting gyro for Xinput. Would be nice that 3rd party companies like Gulikit and 8bitdo could just put up an update to enable gyro in xinput mode.
Accelerometer means Gyro, right? That is the only reason I keep my horrible DS5 around. I'd use Switch controller instead but it has no analog trigger.
>no gyro >no hall effect joysticks >when chinks controllers have both, and are cheaper
What the frick is MS thinking? If they are going third party might as well create a good controller.
Agreed. I hope Microsoft never abandons making controllers, even if they stop making consoles, and I hope they never start using built in batteries. Being able to hot swap standard rechargeable AAs is invaluable.
anon, the upcoming controller refresh which replaces the existing core controller ships with a play and charge kit equivalent by default rather than using regular batteries
Which is fine in theory if it's still compatible with AAs and includes a battery cover. That's not clear from the current specs but assuming it's meant to be backwards compatible with existing Play and Charge kits, I imagine it'll be fine.
Not really. Now that wireless functionality is more prevalent, split controllers are better and if you're going to insist on a wired monobody design, then you don't need a battery and should be using a better connector than Micro USB/USB C to connect the controller.
who the frick even uses gyro for anything?
If you're going to pretend that your controller can play FPS games, then you should actually be able to at least pretend to not have a motor disability without assistance from the game.
>2024 >controllers are still limited to 16 buttons
how have we not added a couple back buttons or an inner set of shoulder buttons or anything at this point? we have the same number of inputs now as the dualshock did in 1997
trying to swap around around grenades/equipment in halo infinite immediately jumped out at me as a huge sign that controllers need to be updated. there isn't enough buttons for a halo game anymore
Microsoft sabotage with Xinput. For quite a long time, games couldn't assume controllers had more functionality than the 360 controller did.
And because of this we were stuck with 5th gen controllers for 3 console generations.
Why are they so incapable of designing a good D-pad? It's been MadCatz-level shit for 22 years.
Intentional gimping. If their Dpad is bad, then multiplats can't assume to have access to a good Dpad. Microsoft benefited a lot from the very rushed development and portjobs of 7th gen, since no one got the chance to show off their strengths.
Symmetrical on top > Asymmetrical > symmetrical on bottom
You don't need more than one analog stick anyway. You can quickly demonstrate the practicality of an analog stick for movement by making your character run in a smooth circle, there is no such demonstration for camera controls, which are handled better by gyro, button and touchpad inputs.
Controllers are better or everything except competitive shooters. Modern PC controllers have macro buttons, mechanical switches, and are generally quite precise
Unless games start heavily leaning into the motion controls that VR is making use of, the mouse is still the superior input method when the game is designed for it. The radial fidelity of mouse input is impressive.
How autistic and/or moronic are you? I hold my controller like a normal human being and don’t whip it at the wall after flying into an autistic rage, and my controllers have lasted me 8 years
>2024 >controllers are still limited to 16 buttons
how have we not added a couple back buttons or an inner set of shoulder buttons or anything at this point? we have the same number of inputs now as the dualshock did in 1997
trying to swap around around grenades/equipment in halo infinite immediately jumped out at me as a huge sign that controllers need to be updated. there isn't enough buttons for a halo game anymore
the Switch controllers styled after the Gamecube controllers but with a bunch of extra buttons are the true patricians choice, there is no debate, but the greatest controller that ever was and will ever be, is a keyboard, you pathetic, fanboy, poorhomosexual morons.
Controllers are better or everything except competitive shooters. Modern PC controllers have macro buttons, mechanical switches, and are generally quite precise
>Controllers are better or everything except competitive shooters. Modern PC controllers have macro buttons, mechanical switches, and are generally quite precise
>have two controllers >one with meme gyro >never use it because I play indie shit with only rare occasional Nintendo game which it uses it for like 5 seconds
God how I hate this controller. I love my 360 controllers but I thought it's time I get a new one so I got this one and the fricking white light on the Xbox logo is so fricking bright. It always shines in my eyes when I'm trying to play in the dark.
The light on the dual sense 4 can be annoying but it isn't right in my fricking face.
The green of the 360 was never an issue in pitch black dark but Xbox one or whatever they call it (box just says Xbox lol and it's official) is way too bright. I don't even use it anymore. Switched to 8bit do.
I'm looking at the screen but I guess you can't afford blinds or whatever. If you play in the dark and you have a fricking light under your own nose you WILL notice
Heck ever been to the cinema and some butthole some seats away got his phone out and you'll see it shining in the dark >omg just look at the screen
I am but if you are in the dark you notice lights in the dark and those are distracting
Xbox can only be played in bright day light which is shit
All I want to see is my tv screen and nothing else
I just hope this means that we are getting gyro for Xinput. Would be nice that 3rd party companies like Gulikit and 8bitdo could just put up an update to enable gyro in xinput mode.
boggles my mind how this shit still doesn't have gyro and uses AA batteries, fricking Nintendo, the technologically backward apes, had gyro and ditched AA over a decade ago.
Best controller I ever used and the best D-pad for fighting games, it's almost perfect, too bad it's not compatible with playstation consoles.
Sony can't do controlers for shit.
I love this little homie like you wouldn’t believe, the d-pad is 10x better than the xbone d-pad, the only issue I have with it is the stupid fricking share button, I really wish it wasn’t there.
for me it's the upcoming controller refresh which implements the same haptics stuff that the DualSense has
>still no gyro
these homies are moronic
that's exclusive to Sebile Elite Version 3 now for only $250
It has gyro, read the bottom left
accelerometer =/= gyro
???
the accelerometer will just be used for its "lift to wake" functionality for battery saving, it's not gyro aiming
>bump xbox controller
>battery charge stolen
That's nice, but the Dual Sense is still better.
The Dualsense's D-pad and triggers, and bumpers are a piece of shit
I don't care about comparing dick sizes, I'm just happy haptics are being normalised across both systems so that we're more likely to see novel implementations of them at use across third party releases
would be true if the battery life were tolerable
It actually upsets me that this is what we’re getting. It looks like it was dipped in milk.
Won't be buying controllers without hall effect sticks. Cba dealing with drift
>quieter
Looks like I'm never getting one. I NEED to annoy my entire family when I play, or else I'm not really playing.
only thing is missing is to not be wireless
Eh, most likely you will be able to connect it with type c, and replaceable cables are a good thing.
Why are they so incapable of designing a good D-pad? It's been MadCatz-level shit for 22 years.
Where does this meme come from? The 360’s dpad was absolute dogshit but the XB1’s dpad was fine and the SX’s is even better
The Series X dpad is the best dpad current on the market.
Yep
too bad it has bumpers made of the condensed hopes and dreams of a starving somalian child and the thinnest dogshit plastic ever conceived by humankind
Does accelerometer mean tilt/gyro control or just their lift to wake horse shit?
what do you think you fricking moron?
Why does it look like its wearing spats.
>asymmetric sticks
DROPPED
No hall effect sticks? No buy.
Price increase? No buy.
is this spats wearing b***h even coming out? I thought it was meant to be announced this month
I swear, if they fail yet again to fix the contacts for the ABXY buttons I'm going to shoot somebody. This shit is my absolute biggest pet peeve with Xbox controllers.
>glossy plastic
When I rule the world, your kind will be put to death.
It's better than you think.
It's just as bad as I know. Glossy plastic will get micro scratches, attract fingerprints due to the natural oils in human hands, and look awful because of these things. And dust shows up more on them as well if you're one of those buttholes who buys every different color and special edition they release. And if you're having a grease problem, stop being one of those "beachballs with legs" type people and stop eating all the time.
What about trans rights?
I'm trans btw.
I just hope this means that we are getting gyro for Xinput. Would be nice that 3rd party companies like Gulikit and 8bitdo could just put up an update to enable gyro in xinput mode.
see
Thats gay
Accelerometer means Gyro, right? That is the only reason I keep my horrible DS5 around. I'd use Switch controller instead but it has no analog trigger.
look two posts above your post.
>no gyro
>no hall effect joysticks
>when chinks controllers have both, and are cheaper
What the frick is MS thinking? If they are going third party might as well create a good controller.
>no gyro
Imagine being out-teched by Nintendo
have a nice day GYROSHILLS
Agreed. I hope Microsoft never abandons making controllers, even if they stop making consoles, and I hope they never start using built in batteries. Being able to hot swap standard rechargeable AAs is invaluable.
anon, the upcoming controller refresh which replaces the existing core controller ships with a play and charge kit equivalent by default rather than using regular batteries
Which is fine in theory if it's still compatible with AAs and includes a battery cover. That's not clear from the current specs but assuming it's meant to be backwards compatible with existing Play and Charge kits, I imagine it'll be fine.
>upcoming refresh is digital only AND a proprietary battery/kit
I'm going to kill Uncle Phil
>no gyro
Guess i'll have a pita
I agree. With the 360 we've basically reached the best controller shape and everything since then has been minor modifications.
Not really. Now that wireless functionality is more prevalent, split controllers are better and if you're going to insist on a wired monobody design, then you don't need a battery and should be using a better connector than Micro USB/USB C to connect the controller.
If you're going to pretend that your controller can play FPS games, then you should actually be able to at least pretend to not have a motor disability without assistance from the game.
Microsoft sabotage with Xinput. For quite a long time, games couldn't assume controllers had more functionality than the 360 controller did.
And because of this we were stuck with 5th gen controllers for 3 console generations.
Intentional gimping. If their Dpad is bad, then multiplats can't assume to have access to a good Dpad. Microsoft benefited a lot from the very rushed development and portjobs of 7th gen, since no one got the chance to show off their strengths.
You don't need more than one analog stick anyway. You can quickly demonstrate the practicality of an analog stick for movement by making your character run in a smooth circle, there is no such demonstration for camera controls, which are handled better by gyro, button and touchpad inputs.
Unless games start heavily leaning into the motion controls that VR is making use of, the mouse is still the superior input method when the game is designed for it. The radial fidelity of mouse input is impressive.
This one was the best, and it still works after years.
Close, I would like a 3rd set of bumpers and Triggers of the back.
Also WTF was up with the triggers or analog sticks breaking?
They are damn near indestructible. SO CLOSE TO PERFECT.
Shame the Dpad is trash.
Shoulder buttons break in 6 months. Pile of chink trash. My 10 year old 360 controllers still work.
I had one that broke after a couple years. I have two others that work just fine.
How autistic and/or moronic are you? I hold my controller like a normal human being and don’t whip it at the wall after flying into an autistic rage, and my controllers have lasted me 8 years
I hate all iterations of the Xbox d-pad so much
lack of gyro immediately makes it a hard pass
i like it, but after a few days it started to make a buzzing noise when rumbling
it would be good if it was 10% bigger and also not built like fricking garbage that fails after a month of light use.
Face buttons are utter garbage and if you ever checked the mainboard you'd know why.
who the frick even uses gyro for anything?
PS3 games (which there aren't any)
third person shooters
>insanely accurate aiming for TPS/FPS
>"Hurrrr who would want that"
It takes a lot of effort and guessing to maneuver it the right amount
It really doesn’t, you get used to it in like 5-10 minutes
Then I'm a moron in full sincerity
Play with a higher sensitivity. It sounds counterintuitive but you’ll actually have better control since you need smaller wrist movements
Okay. I'll find a non-Splatoon game to play. Thanks
on PC, just find a game that allows mouse (for gyro) + controller at the same time. Those games feel amazing with gyro.
Gran Turismo 7, motion steering is great, much more intuitive than using the stick.
People who don't play anything fast or competitive.
>controller
>competitive
das a good joke
Gyro is even worse. Use a mouse.
not in apex
For aiming, it's like adding mouse aim to controller, it's a dream for games like FEAR.
Hello friends, really enjoying my skull and bones setup.
>2024
>controllers are still limited to 16 buttons
how have we not added a couple back buttons or an inner set of shoulder buttons or anything at this point? we have the same number of inputs now as the dualshock did in 1997
trying to swap around around grenades/equipment in halo infinite immediately jumped out at me as a huge sign that controllers need to be updated. there isn't enough buttons for a halo game anymore
>playing Metro Exodus on PS5
>every weapon feels different due to haptic feedback and dualsense's triggers
SOVL. Firing guns in that game was so fun.
Symmetrical sticks are superior. Having them asymmetrical is just Msfts way of being distinct from Sony. The Playstation style controller is superior.
That probably would have mattered more back in the GEN6 GEN7 days. Series X controllers are great.
In what way are symmetrical sticks superior, apart from aesthetically?
ENTER
ah yes. the duke's moronic, autistic, physically deformed bastard child
GAMESIR PLEASE DO NOT REDEEM
Symmetrical on top > Asymmetrical > symmetrical on bottom
>top
I’ve never seen a controller other than the Wii U do this.
Me either, maybe that's why I love it, because I love the Pro controller
the Switch controllers styled after the Gamecube controllers but with a bunch of extra buttons are the true patricians choice, there is no debate, but the greatest controller that ever was and will ever be, is a keyboard, you pathetic, fanboy, poorhomosexual morons.
PC master race will never stop winning.
Controllers are better or everything except competitive shooters. Modern PC controllers have macro buttons, mechanical switches, and are generally quite precise
>Controllers are better or everything except competitive shooters. Modern PC controllers have macro buttons, mechanical switches, and are generally quite precise
Yeah, a keyboard for FPS and RTS games.
No adaptive triggers?
For driving games, these things are incredible.
I am never gonna accept anything but Playstation layout. How the frick can you play with joysticks that arent in the same position on both sides?
OP here, I accidentally the wrong picture. Here you go!
> Worst designed dpad in history of dpads.
> Just PDP Xbox controller but shittier.
Indians, please, do better.
>it's le bad because... I don't like its name therefore it's bad
> Never even mentioned the cringe name.
> Must stroooowmoooan.
Fricking redditrot.
It's a nice controller but it was a pain in the ass I had to rebuy PS4 sized control freeks to fit on it.
>stick covers
who actually uses these stupid things
Obviously not casuals like yourself.
So how are you supposed to keep track of battery life on that controller on Windows? I don't get any pop ups and the charge just dies with no warning.
You go to Bluetooth devices and it shows the percentage.
Sometimes a notification popsup and says the battery is low.
I may actually stockpile these because of the dpad
>only four face buttons
>perfection
That really falls short for fightans.
Just no, saturn style dpad + 6 buttons or bust, go pretend elsewhere. Or even a gated 8 way thumbstick would be better than that dpad.
the xsex controller is optimal for tekken
the d pad sucks
for playing open world trash yep
>A CONTROLLER HAS TO HAVE GYRO BECAUSE......IT JUST DOES OKAY!
>have two controllers
>one with meme gyro
>never use it because I play indie shit with only rare occasional Nintendo game which it uses it for like 5 seconds
>who needs good controls on a fricking controller?
tard logic.
God how I hate this controller. I love my 360 controllers but I thought it's time I get a new one so I got this one and the fricking white light on the Xbox logo is so fricking bright. It always shines in my eyes when I'm trying to play in the dark.
The light on the dual sense 4 can be annoying but it isn't right in my fricking face.
The green of the 360 was never an issue in pitch black dark but Xbox one or whatever they call it (box just says Xbox lol and it's official) is way too bright. I don't even use it anymore. Switched to 8bit do.
>this moron gets assblasted by a fricking white LED button
Just stop looking at your controller every 5 seconds, okay dumbass?
I'm looking at the screen but I guess you can't afford blinds or whatever. If you play in the dark and you have a fricking light under your own nose you WILL notice
Heck ever been to the cinema and some butthole some seats away got his phone out and you'll see it shining in the dark
>omg just look at the screen
I am but if you are in the dark you notice lights in the dark and those are distracting
Xbox can only be played in bright day light which is shit
All I want to see is my tv screen and nothing else
>8bitdo
>hits diagonal
boggles my mind how this shit still doesn't have gyro and uses AA batteries, fricking Nintendo, the technologically backward apes, had gyro and ditched AA over a decade ago.
Yeah it's great. Makes fightan inputs a breeze and love how satisfying and clicky the dpad is when I do inputs or use it in other games.
>loudest d-pad ever created
>still no gyro
kys
The sticks are too small and concave, the dualsense ones are more comfortable.
Best controller I ever used and the best D-pad for fighting games, it's almost perfect, too bad it's not compatible with playstation consoles.
Sony can't do controlers for shit.
I love this little homie like you wouldn’t believe, the d-pad is 10x better than the xbone d-pad, the only issue I have with it is the stupid fricking share button, I really wish it wasn’t there.
The rubber on the stick is almost completely gone on mine :/
>drifts
More like basic minimum
I mean on a wolrd were you are a malformed asymmetrical mutant. Sure, perfection