If they had handled Halo with the care and respect it deserves, Xbox might not be perpetually in 3rd place. Halo used to be one of those franchises that commanded some respect and everyone paid some attention to. It had passionate fans and community. Now its a shadow of its former self. Now it's in the gutter with other games that come and go and no one discusses or feels passionate about. It's always just nostalgia for the Bungie trilogy. A lot of franchises wane in popularity, but this is like if Mario stopped being relevant. Its just embarrassing. 343 deserves to be dissolved. Halo deserves better.
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halo sucks and is for babies
This.
Halo has always been a shitty console shooter overhyped by kids who couldn't play the real stuff on PC.
good bait
Get out zoomie, only CE was good
what if id software or one of call of duty studios make halo?
None of this would matter. Halo is in a really bad spot right now and its hard to really say what can save it at this point.
I would say they should go all the way back to making it play like Halo 3 but smoother and faster pace but then the developers would call this outdated, Journos will, and then they will convince the normalgays of this to. So I really see no winning scenarios here. I honestly think Halo needs to bench the MC character already and have players simply build their own spartan for story and mp modes permanently. MC can just have cool cameos from now on in the series he built. Halo may have once been their Mario but they kind of shoot themselves in the foot by continuing his story indefinitely when Halo isn't a cartoon fantasy series it is supposed to have logical satisfying conclusions. They aren't going to keep rebooting and retelling his story endlessly so he needs to be benched permanently.
LITERALLY
HALO WOULD BE ALIVE IF 343i JUST FIXED INFINITE
AND HAD A STEADY STREAM OF CONTENT
THAT IS FRICKING IT
NONE OF THIS
>oh well uh we just need another game! I dunno how we correct this shit, guys!
just fricking be good developers instead of having 6 month long seasons of nothing with 2 maps, no balancing, no fixes for the shit netcode, no real new content, shitty battle passes, nothing
343 has long proven to be a disaster for the IP. It was only inevitable they would shit up Infinite. Infinite is alright I think its at least a lot better gameplay wise then the last shit they've been giving us but its still not perfect. I don't like melee being tied to clicking in the stick. The game doesn't even have assassinations anymore because of this shitty decision. Also they can call it zoom all they want but its functionally still ADS so frick Infinite. These stupid cucks do not know how to properly speed up gameplay while still keeping the spirit of Halo from its true glory years alive.
you can switch control scheme to normal halo
we don't have assassinations because 343i are hacks
I didn't try messing with that much when I played the game. I tend to prefer default controls anyways in games because devs build the games with that in mind.
No it wasn't it was trash just like the company that made it.
seethe
5 was dope once they added everything
I agree. 5 was good, at least multiplayer wise
Halo needs to... stop. Just fricking stop. Don't need more titles. Just let it lie already. Let it sleep. The issue is that they KEEP TRYING. Just stop. It's really as simple as that.
We don't need more Halo.
Maybe you're right. Maybe its time to let it die. Its just baffling how Xbox acts like they're so concerned with getting people on their platform. Halo could do exactly what they want, but they don't seem to have any competent devs to bring it back into the limelight. They dump money into all this garbage like the new fable, but can't get a good Halo game made.
Infinite was the nail in the coffin m8
Hard disagree, they just need to make good Halo games.
This. Get rid of the grappling hook, the sliding all that cod bullshit, go back to basics. Halo classic league game play is infinitely better than normal infinite gameplay
This just shows the problem isn't the engineers or the devs or the graphics, it's management forcing all this stupid bullshit into the game.
It's really fricking great. it was following in half life's foot steps yes but it created its own unique identity. Its multiplayer is distinct from other fps games and redefined the genre.
Grappling hook was the only good thing about Infinite
Microsoft never respected Halo as a franchise, they just milked it to death
Bungie knew that they couldn't make any more Halo games after 3 so that's why they quit and move on to new projects, but Microsoft and their greedy asses wanted MORE Halo, if you have any common sense you would see how Bungie was right, halo 3 finished the fight, with nothing else to fight after the most sensible thing is to go to the start of the story and do a full circle, but no, Microsoft wanted more Halo, more Master Chief and we know the result of what happened
You don't need new games, stop being a mindless consumer, just enjoy what you already have
This
No developer in this day and age will make a good Halo game, everyone wants to try new stuff and never stick to the original formula because they are afraid of it, also this kind of thinking is how they bait you into consuming new products
They need to give it to a japanese developer so it isn't plagued by blue haired diversity hires ruining the shit. Platinum games or fromsoft.
It had its time. RIP.
There's literally nothing wrong with Infinite.
Every single thing Halo gays asked for is in the game now. They simply ran out of things to b***h about and don't have an argument anymore.
Open world when it's just another fad/trend. No Firefight. Creative aspect of sound design is lacking. Particle effects look bad. Rookie still dead (Killing him is exactly what 343 thinks of the fans and Halo in general).
You have to understand Halo is one of those games people will spend endless hours reiterating criticism they've read online about them rather than actually playing the game. To most people in this thread their only concept of Infinite is Craig.
The campaign in Infinite makes no fricking sense and sounds like a child wrote it. The alien guns all suck doodooshit and are fricking cancer to use. Multiplayer maps are boring e-sports arenas with no creativity. What else do you want?
You didn't even play it
Cope
Like most parts of Infinite, there was some increidlbe potential here. Yet you notice immediately how completely shit the Ai is for fighitng, how the story is a low IQ written Hollywood action story, forced minorities everywhere (that mexican wouldn't STFU), etc.
Had they fired all non-whites and women and given the rest 6 months, I believe infinite could have been a solid game.
>Every single thing Halo gays asked for is in the game now
b***h this shit doesn't play like halo
>sprint
>not-ADS
>removal of player collision
>sprint
>no grenade jump
>shit maps
>1 biome
>Ubiworld meme
>shit characters
>sprint
>shop
>raped lore and universe
>shit new weapons
>sprint
>shit campaign, shit multiplayer, shit everything
>343 still in charge
The sprint complaints don't even make sense for Infinite, it doesn't make you move any faster and is purely an animation to satisfy zoomers.
Yet if you don't use it you get smoked by some kid
Same thing with slide and climb, 343's "Halo" is made with these mechanics in mind, don't delude yourself thinking they don't change the gameplay
Based. Let the zoomer shooter poison it spawned die with it. Long live the boomer shooter.
Where is his head and why is he holding a coconut?
Same with Sonic man. IP's that never transcended to modern times in the way other Mascots have.
I would have cared about Infinite more if it had a Firefight mode.
Gaylo was never good
Halo should have stopped at 3.
>Drive Bungie away with your moronic management (Remember that Halo 2 was made in like 18 Months because Microsoft pushed for it so hard)
>Make a new studio to make Halo in their place
>Put their forum janny in charge
>He hires people based solely on if they hate Halo
>Entire studio is now full of people who hate the very series that they're supposed to be making, run by a janny who's only actual contribution to the games was getting to write some filler terminals no one wanted to do (Where he purposefully wrote contradicting information because he thought that Bungie were moronic for trying to tell a story that made sense)
It is 100% Microsoft's fault that Halo is dead
halo will never die. MasterChef is an iconic character thats 23 years old and has a tv show- they'll find a new way to keep bringing him back over and over again, just like mario and sonic
what studio would actually do justice to halo and also be available to develop it
gays like you are so sad holy shit
it never deserved any respect
You can buy the name but you cannot replace the talent involved in the making of it. I hope the industry learns this lesson.
pre 2009 MW2 heydeys will never come back, its time to let go
This is just factually untrue btw. There's an API to check Infinite's population across all platforms that just launched a few weeks ago, after this article was released. Going off concurrent steam players when it's an Xbox/game pass title is obviously flawed.
The fact Microsoft focused on Minecraft instead of Halo is a fact. I've spammed it as a troll hundreds of times throughout the years, but that's only because it was and still is true.
Xbox gaming did not have all the funding in the world, but they had a lot of it, and they kept on flushing it down the toilet because they stopped caring for god forsaken reason after the 360 era.
Always interesting to see people refer to Microsoft as Xbox.
The issue is that building a competent AAA studio from nothing is difficult and, after Bungie left, I wager that Mattrick thought it was easy to replace them and squandered all the good will over 4-5 years into the Xbone generation
If you want to blame anyone, blame Mattrick
>no sexy Cortana
It was pozzed current year shit. I don't give a frick.
>Bungie
bungie has proven that they are a mediocre developer after their shitty work on destiny
Let's be honest, Halo would become the new cod regardless. It would've been milked and milked until it couldn't be anymore no matter who the developers were. It's best that it goes out with a whimper than doesn't go out at all.
>It's best that it goes out with a whimper than doesn't go out at all.
But it isn't going out. Infinite and MCC's player count keeps rising because of game pass and 343 grinding out new content for both of them. Microsoft will continue to milk it but they can do that and still make a good game with a good campaign. If 343/Microsoft was smart they'd make really really really good campaign dlcs for infinite that don't even have master chief but are just good stories with fun well designed levels.
>Xbox is letting Halo die
GOOD. they should've done that after Reach
What exactly should they have done with it and what can they do with it now? A lot of people seem divided on what direction the series should go.
Infinite was a good game and only suffered from a severe lack of content.
Halo peaked with CE and everything that came after was a gradual devolution.
halo has become a prime example of what type of bad things can happen when 'fans' ascend to become the creators of an IP.
like 343 was originally made by microsoft to be the dedicated 'halo developers' and primarily composed of former fans, but since 343 took over its been nothing but them completely missing the point of everything bungie did to push how they think halo should be like.
like instead of focusing entirely on the games storylines, they have instead put a frickton of effort into the 'world building' trying make Halo have some expanded universe thing where all the books, comics and whatever else they released were directly connected to the games, which ended up being detrimental because 90% of the important/cool story elements happened between games leaving it constantly feeling like you missed shit because you had literally zero clue why anything was happening, who anyone was, or why they were important.
>the care and respect it deserves
>If they had handled Halo with the care and respect it deserves
If they did that they would have let it die when bungie left.
Eh I’ve hopped back on infinite in the last couple weeks and had a lot of fun. They definitely fricked it up but I hope they still pump money into the franchise for my saie
>Xbox is letting Halo die
Microsoft killed halo, and it started over a decade ago.
Not even with the release of Halo 4, the Halo CE: Anniversary Edition was a poor game, hastily thrown together for the 10th anniversary. Cheap Halo Reach asset reuse and garish artstyle changes that just looked like they were done by people who weren't skilled, and to top it off, no working Halo CE multiplayer, just a handful of Halo CE maps remade for Reach.
I remember being disappointed with it: it just wasn't up to the standard of quality I expected from Halo. Didn't give me good feelings about the new studio that owned Halo, but I still loved the Bungie games and was willing to give 343i a chance.
Halo 4 was terrible. It was the first Halo game where I encountered a bug that soft locked you just through normal play: not sure many people even know this but if you jump into the gravity lift beneath a Covenant sniper tower, which are found throughout the game, you can get stuck between the lift and the inner edge of the hole you're supposed to fly through to get into the tower: forcing you to grenade suicide or quit to menu.
I guess they thought no one used those sniper towers, so why bother playtesting?
The artstyle looked completely wrong. The story was pretentious nonsense, and made itself painfully clear it didn't have a reason to exist beyond milking the Halo name...
Halo was killed, not dead, KILLED, slowly, starting over a decade ago.
>kids are eventually going to associate "Cortana" with the Windows assistant instead of Halo
>Xbox might not be perpetually in 3rd place
Maybe, but Halo was a downgrade in terms of gameplay from the very first time it hit the market, so you can't expect too much. It had a cool sci-fi vibe going for it, I guess they fricked that up as well since.
stop being a mindless consumers, stop asking for more content and games, you know Microsoft will never deliver a good game yet you still ask for more and face the consequences and make dumb threads like these
Microsoft knows you are a dumb coomsumer and they know you will play their new Halo
Idk. I never asked for 343i's Halo games. In fact I never asked for Bungie's Halo games.
Bungie put out their Halo games and they were good, so I played them. 343i put out Halo 4 and I was immediately turned off and decided I had no interest in 343i games.
>Microsoft knows you are a dumb coomsumer and they know you will play their new Halo
Microsoft surely wishes Halo fans were like that.
>Microsoft surely wishes Halo fans were like that.
How naive, like a good big bulk of today's Halo fans are either nostalgiagays or 343drones who will play any new game Microsoft shats out, the former will complain after playing it that it wasn't what they expected it and the latter will defend it to death, and the cycle repeats. Look at this thread