>Consoles are so convenient tho' just pop the disc in and play.
in the past maybe.
many games ship unplayable and buggy and require updates or in the worst case an active internet connection.
it's more convenient now you don't even have to insert a disc. all my series x games are digital (they update automatically when the console is off) and there's quick resume so you don't even have to load them from the beginning. most convenient way to play games tbqh
AC6
Alan Wake 2
BG3
Dredge
Lies of P
Remnant 2
Street Fighter 6
Theatrhythm Final Bar Line Asgards Wrath 2 which is basically just Skyrim except built from the ground up for VR
3 months ago
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RE4
Arry Potta
Rogue trader
All I can think of for PC.
Thanks Aons, I knew I was forgetting some Thoroughly enjoyed AC6 and Lies of P, and will probably be getting some of the others when they go on sale.
Otherworld Legends is pretty damn good. It's even got co-op, only thing you pay for are extra characters and skins and even then they are like 3 dollars max.
touhou
raid shadow legends > cope because you cant keep yourself from buying shit. seethe because it has deeper rpg mechanics than anything on console
Diablo immortal > yea thats right boomer we all remember your tears on that one hows it feel to get a mobile port on your pc
> cant build teams with debuff, +atk on debuff > can only handle 1 char at a time > is afraid of change even when its objectively good
Keep coping and waiting for non woke garbage > stellar blade
Ive had more sexy b***hes in genshin than youve had in nogames
Nikke: Goddess of victory
And people perfer mobile games because console quit putting attractive women in games and are just cinematic slop or ubi open world slop
>PS5 barely keeping pace with the same sales trajectory as the PS4 >Sony not hitting sales goals >No major games released in the next financial year
It's all ogre
You complain when Sony announces their games years in advance, you complain when Sony announces games the same year as their release dates. There's no winning.
Console cycle is genreally 5-7 years.
We're like 3.5 years into the PS5s lifespan, so it's already past the halfway point, well past it if they're pushing towards a 5-6 year cycle instead of 6-7.
You're talking actual support lifespan of the console.
I'm talking about the time between console generations.
PS2 to PS3 was only 6.5 years between releases
Granted I should have worded my second sentence differently, it should say we're like 3.5 years into the console cycle, not the console lifespan.
If you have space for a PS5 then you have space for a "gaming pc". You don't need the biggest and most power hungry components to build a PC that is around the PS5 in performance, you can get the same performance out of a box that is more rectangular than a PS5 but not much bigger
>PS5 failed to hit 25 milion sales goal >Snoy had to cut FY's goal to 21 million instead >PS5 entering "its latter stage of life" not 3 years and 3 months in >PS5 hardware sales to slow down >no first party until march 2025 at the earliest >12 exclusives since the release in Nov 2020 (FF7R not included as the exclusivity runs out three months after release)
MFW (you) got baited into buying a PS5 and PS+
Nintendo didn't even play a role in this gen aside from a mid generation refresh of their last gen console. They're 2 steps behind and yet still winning the game.
Is that supposed to be a gotcha? Yes Switch is the highest selling gen 8 console, obviously. Who the hell thinks that a console that came out during gen 8 with the hardware of gen 7 is in fact gen 9
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Who the hell thinks that a console that came out during gen 8 with the hardware of gen 7 is in fact gen 9
Because hardware raw power doesn't dictate a console's placement in a generation, you dumbass. Switch is gen 9 because the Wii U was gen 8, get it? Is it that complicated for your CTE brain to understand? >Wii U: 2012 Gen 8
(5 YEAR GAP) >Switch: 2017 Gen 9
XD
3 months ago
Anonymous
see
go back to sucking dicks on reddit
3 months ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I accept that your a dick sucking avatar attention prostitute.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>"I accept that your a dick sucking avatar attention prostitute."
3 months ago
Anonymous
>my fanfiction is reality
ok
3 months ago
Anonymous
but enough about you.
3 months ago
Anonymous
check gen divisions, there is a consensus with Wii U as 8gen and Switch as 9gen
3 months ago
Anonymous
Gen is not a tech/hardware thing, but a time thing.
That's how they won Nintendo stop compiting in a homosexual console war and put all they're effort on games and inovative gameplay or hardware instead of how powerful the console is Wii was succesful and Switch embraced the mobile hand held console market first and Xbox and Playstation copied Nintendo in the motion controls and Playstation with the portable and they failed because they didn't invent it first
>always funny how ninty gayots think they've won a fight because they've given up since the Wii.
yea "given up" when the switch is gonna outsell the PS2 this year lmao
You win the game by not playing by someone else rules.
Sony and Microsoft got into a piss war that ended up ballooning dev cost to the point is almost unsistainable
Nintendo on the other hand decided to step back and keep things "downgraded" but they dont need to break bank and prioritize the gameplay aspects
Switch 2 with PS4-level performance is all that's needed, the only real benefit beyond that has been the reduction of load times which is simply SSD-related. Publishers should realize the diminishing returns against time and budget from going over that target isn't worth it.
3 months ago
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>Publishers should realize the diminishing returns against time and budget from going over that target isn't worth it
they should, but they won't
That's what happens when you don't have a killer app.
Their old partnership with Squenix amounts to nothing anymore since they produce shit like FF16 and Rebirth which just aren't exciting enough to buy a PS5 for and they never went out to look for a better partner.
And then shit like GT7 released on PS4 and PS5, so why bother buying a PS5?
Gaming is evolving Kids grow up with Nintendo still and love quality experiences, there are still good games today 23 was one of the best years for experimental titles in decades expand your taste and you'll enjoy many titles that lay hidden and if modern games aren't your cup of tea consider exploring old libraries of consoles gone that still stand the test of time.
>PS5 is entering "its latter stage of life cycle".
This is complete and utter nonsense if it's what Sony thinks. Devs haven't even moves from cross-platform releases. We have just barely even started the current generation and they think it's already nearing the end?
NOW EVERTYTHING IS SHIT. WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOOK UP FOR. ONLY PRAYING THAT SOMETHING GOOD IS GONNA POP. THERE IS NOTHING RGEAT THAT IS EXPECTED TO BE THERE. NOT REASON ENOUGH TO BUY A CONSOLE.
WHO THE FRICK BUYS A CONSOLE TO PLAY A HANDFUL OF "NICE" GAMES ? WHERE ARE THE BULLDOZERS ?
Third party exclusives are basically dead. The best you can get these days is a timed exclusive unless you're outright paying for the game entirely like Nintendo did with Bayonetta 2 and 3. Publishers have tasted the fruit of multiplatform releases and they refuse to go back. Unfortunately, third party exclusives were Playstation's bread and butter.
That isn't to say that PS hasn't had good first party IPs... but those IPs never had a very long life. Spyro and Crash were let go in the leap from PS1 to PS2, Jak & Daxter were basically abandoned after the PS2... Gran Turismo, God of War, and Ratchet & Clank are their oldest IPs, and none of them really shine as bright as they did back in their respective glory days. TLOU already floundered with its ONE sequel. Uncharted was always the junk food of their IPs. And we all know what they did to Japan Studio and the countless number of games they used to pump out or at least aide development in.
PS was always on borrowed time. They didn't build a good set of first party developers, or first party IPs. Hell, their biggest release last year was a first party game using a third party IP(Spider-Man.) They don't have the exclusives to support their branding, instead they're hanging on from the PS4's sheer momentum. It's the Xbox 360 of this generation. People will buy it but only because their friends have it.
For their sake, let's hope they never make an Xbone tier frick up because they'll literally never recover from it if they do.
>God of War [...] are their oldest IPs, and none of them really shine as bright as they did back in their respective glory days
Why do you morons always say such incredibly stupid and easily debunkable shit as this?
>Sales of 2018 are more than the entire series before it, combined. >Sales of Ragnarok are almost as much as the sales of 1-4 combined.
No matter how you try to spin this, you are wrong.
Because it only actually started to go anywhere in March of 2023 which was around when they finally got their chip shortages from Covid under control and you could actually start buying them in stores. There is no way they consider this the end of the generation because we literally haven't even stopped cross platform games with the PS4 yet.
>later stage of its life cycle
What the frick.
How can it already be in the later stage of its life cycle? Didn't people just start buying it recently, after years of supply shortages? Now that it finally has a sizeable playerbase, they're abandoning it. Smooth.
I'm guessing those supply shortages are what really fricked the PS5. Publishers don't want to invest money developing a game for a console that nobody can buy, causing nogaems. And that causes a negative feedback loop: if there are no players, then there will be no gaems, and if there are no gaems, then there will be no players.
>Now that it finally has a sizeable playerbase, they're abandoning it.
Sounds like the Vita, they dropped support too early meanwhile devs kept making games for it until two years ago.
It's most interesting to see how Nintendo will react to all of this tbh since they'll be the last 'traditional' console company. If they can't hold that niche down its safe to say that old-style console business strategy has gone the way of the Dodo.
Fans and Devs won't make the jump, I fear. You already had them complaining about the Series S two years in. Plus Nintendo will have the advantage since their next gen Switch will have been in the market early by two to three years
Switch one gave me performance issues on some Zelda titles so if switch 2 specs are bad they can suck a fat one as I order an emulator deck
I am done with subpar products
>PS5 poor availability >After years it is finally in supply >Because of availability issues it still feels new in the mind but its already becoming dated
Sony did it to themselves, they did not protect their product from scalpers and are now having to lie in the bed they shat themselves
It is true. Comes from the investors report. Sony missed all targets for the PS5, it's declining lifetime against the PS4 and the profit margin has plunged back down to it's lowest since the PS3 era.
No wonder Jim Ryan was asked to leave. At this rate Sony will be doing a podcast saying they are bringing Spider-Man and God Of War to Xbox by the end of the next week.
They literally have no games and no reason to upgrade to ps5. This gen is a disaster.
It is true. Comes from the investors report. Sony missed all targets for the PS5, it's declining lifetime against the PS4 and the profit margin has plunged back down to it's lowest since the PS3 era.
No wonder Jim Ryan was asked to leave. At this rate Sony will be doing a podcast saying they are bringing Spider-Man and God Of War to Xbox by the end of the next week.
>At this rate Sony will be doing a podcast saying they are bringing Spider-Man and God Of War to Xbox by the end of the next week.
>everyone sits down to watch Xbox die tomorrow >Phil announces them bringing Starfield to Playstation >snoys are jacking off furiously >then announces Sony bringing TLOU to Xbox >camera close up on his smug face >podcast ends >Ganker becomes unusable until the end of time
>At this rate Sony will be doing a podcast saying they are bringing Spider-Man and God Of War to Xbox by the end of the next week.
Sounds good to me. The cost of making games is constatnly rising. Sony have to find a way to recoup this by going to be multiplatform.
>Sony buys Bungie >Bungo tells Naughty Dog they have to become a live service studio to support TLOU Online with the scope ND wants >Cancelled project >Nothing till 2028
NEXT GAME, NEXT GAME
Shitposting aside this is really unexpected, from all indications the Spny train was chugging right along but now they're revising down massively, projecting an even further decline in sales for next year, and are saying they have nothing for their big IPs for an entire fricking year. What the hell happened?
>Sony has to cut sales expectations for the PS5 >"BUT IT WILL OUTSELL THE PS4"
No, it won't. The PS4 had the market to itself as its competition was the WiiU and the Xbox One. And even in that position, it got outpaced, outsold, maimed, shot and executed by the Switch. The PS5 isn't outselling the PS4, and it sure as shit isn't going to outsell the Switch.
>PS5 is entering the latter stages of its life cycle
Wasn't it just in "no one can actually buy the thing" mode like 2 years ago?
t. doesn't really follow console news
Yes. 2020 to the very early months of 2023 you couldn't buy it without stalking Twitter bots and Discord bots. It's only just started to actually become available in stores and online with no stock issues.
Except we had Covid for nearly three of those years affecting everything from system procurement to game development. To treat gen 9 like it's a normal generation is idiotic. The realistic take on it is that this generation has been out for a single year. One. The previous three basically don't exist because no one could buy the thing.
Which isn't the point. The point is that Covid screwed everything up for this gen and it just started early last year. 2020 to the start of 2023 was essentially a write off for gen 9 since even the Series systems barely got games for them and mainly got Xbone games with better performance and that's it.
>stock shortage only ended not even a year ago >we barely started getting current-gen titles, after 3 years of cross-ge >no big exclusives for a year, just shitty GaaS like Concord >"PS5 is in the latter stage of its life"
These people are fricking high
Of course it can't reach the sales expectations even when the other home console is dead
>Xbox is literally going 3rd party on the 15th >snoy still can't capitalize on jack shit because it hasn't had games for 3 generations now besides bloodborne.
Says whatever you want about Nintendo, but Jesus Christ at least they actually deliver when it comes to good exclusives every year and giving you actual reasons to buy the console
The moment Switch 2 is revealed to support 3rd parties, it's over
MH Wilds and other Capcom games available d1 on Switch 2 will already generate infinite seethe
>Nintendo telling Platinum not to tone down Bayonetta's sexiness during the development of Bayo 2 >Pyra's existence >Zelda's ass buff
The only reason why Stellar Blade stands out is because Sony is funding it which is good don't get me wrong. I hope we get more Stellar Blades and less TLOU2/capeshit. If it were Nintendo, then it would be business as usual.
trolling aside, it's like capeshit... I don't mind watching a good one once a year, but would get tired if they came out every month and were shit as modern Marvel
but resume yer silly console war from 1995, don't mind me
this always bugged, this is clearly the case, so why have neither sony nor microsoft create a playstation/xbox phone line with more gaymin capabilities (inate connection to xbox/ps controllers, connection to the respective consoles, etc), they are both in the phone industry already, seems like an easy business decision to make?
Sony killed themselves by focusing on billion dollar movies that take 5+ years to make. Multiple smaller games to bridge the gap between big bets is the way to go, and is something Nintendo has been doing for the last two gens.
Xbox killed itself by buying up studios but never making a single game with them. I don't know what exactly happened to stagnate them, you'd think they'd be able to crank out games like no tomorrow, yet all these studios seem to be checking in their paychecks and never ever actually doing anything. I would have thought there are enough project managers on Xbox side to properly control the studios, but apparently not.
Mobile gaming? You mean Genshin? What other mobile game do zoomoids even play?
Fortnite and Apex are mainly played on consoles. Star Rail maybe. And coomergachas are the working mans game, they are the ones with money to whale.
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True I forgot Clash of Clans and Clash Royale, those are huge.
>Multiple smaller games to bridge the gap between big bets is the way to go, and is something Nintendo has been doing for the last two gens
Nintendo doesn't make "big bets" they only make shitty low budget games and they only succeed because tendies have low standards
They're only struggling in relation to AAA game budgets and expectations. Stop being obsessed with graphics, motion capture, etc. and you won't have issues as the console userbase is more than large enough. We're talking dozens of millions of users even on the Xbox, let alone PS5.
Third worlders aren't buying consoles anymore because lol too poor and having a PlayStation in your house isn't a status symbol anymore
Source: am a third worlder
PS3 was pretty great already picking up the pace on the second year >MGS4 >LittleBigPlanet >Valkyria Chronicles >Wipeout HD
And then there were console multiplats >Battlefield BC1 >Condemned 2 >Burnout Paradise >GTA4 >Soul Calibur >Many others
Same goes for Xbox, the current generation is a joke even compared to 360/PS3
ill be surprised if microsoft puts out anything other than a low end windows machine as their next "console" since theyve gone so hard at having every xbox game on pc
I hate it when Ganker is somehow right. But let's be real the frick did Sony think was gonna happen, betting everything on capeshit and 6 years long bajillion dollar productions? Just give us back AA games. Cool, inventive gameplay or simply solid proven formulas done with smaller budgets. Where did it all go so wrong?
>Where did it all go so wrong?
Moving to California and putting people at the top who don't understand video games or the market in the slightest is where it went wrong.
>Where did it all go so wrong?
Killing Japan studio and chasing after AAA bloat and GAAS games. Reminder that Sony has six Horizon projects in development even after Forbidden West flopped.
>But let's be real the frick did Sony think was gonna happen, betting everything on capeshit and 6 years long bajillion dollar productions?
They thought they'll get compensated for it by ESG investors (for filling those turds with diversity) and they were right. AAA companies now make games with the highest budget possible and the highest level of pozz possible and it's worth it because trillion dollar investment companies want to pozz the world.
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That trash never sold the consoles no matter how much you piss and cry and insist it is the truth. TLoU and its massive shilling campaign was a mistake jesus man.
The PS3's slow start allowed westerners to weasel into positions of power within the brand by blaming Kutaragi and Kaz, pointing to the 360 and saying they needed to do things that way.
>five hundred and fifty euros (550€) console three years after release >Hur dur why is it not selling as well as we expected
Are they unironically moronic at Sony?
>late stage >Still no games
if someone from 2000's would saw the gaming industry right now (especially Sony/Microsoft) they would ask if a crash happen again
homosexualry, modern politics, 4k and muh graphic, that's it and the majority of new games still lok like shit and even worse than the game launched almost a decade ago
If they had to actually take a critical look at what games to invest and what to drop, they would have to know what a good game looks like and the people at the top of publishers don't play games or even know anyone who does. If you showed them Sonic 2006 and Sonic Generations side by side and asked them which of them is the beloved one, they wouldn't be able to tell you. They might even pick the former because it looks more "realistic". Every game only "needs" six years of development and cost $200 million because until recently those games were at least guaranteed to make their money back, but budgets have gotten so bloated and the economy has gotten so shitty that even that's not true anymore. They only keep it going this way because they literally don't know how to do it any other way.
Both of these dramatically inflate costs and amount of work for a given game even if at its core it is nothing more than a walking sim interrupted by cutscenes.
I never wanted this. Sony and Microsoft drilled that into everyone's heads in the 7th gen and the dumb sheep accepted it. They were either too greedy or too stupid to realize what that would mean for the industry though and we're now seeing the collapse they started a decade ago.
Unironically yes. Playstation has been graphics whoring since the ps1, and fricking FF7 started that god damn trend.
Yes it literally is. Graphics stopped being a (sane) selling point ages ago, you aren't making massive leaps in fidelity like you used to.
Compare 3rd gen to 4th, or hell literally every console gap up until 7th gen. 5th to 6th gen was the last massive jump, sure a ps3 game looks better than a ps2 game but it's nowhere near as much as a ps2 game looks compared to a ps1 game.
Grafix is an easy way to sell a game to moronic normalgays though so they tripled down on that and haven't let up on the gas pedal since, and now they're reaping what they sowed, and for what, slightly better water textures? Flying spit? Shrinking horse testicles?
This is what Sony has been training people to care about since the PS1 at least. LOOK AT THE SHINY GRAPHICS, LOOK SHINIER GRAPHICS, GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS. WE SPENT MILLIONS MARKETING THESE GRAPHICS, WHO CARES ABOUT GAMEPLAY, LOOK AT THE POLYGONS AND BUMP MAPS AND RAY TRACING.
Those shiny graphics propped up by huge marketing budgets have gotten so expensive that it's become Sony's downfall. A Greek playwright couldn't have written a better ending for that story.
>zoomers think the graphics race is a console thing that Sony/MS started
grim
3 months ago
Anonymous
Read my post you dumb Black person I said nothing of the sort. have a nice day.
3 months ago
Anonymous
i said the exact opposite thing you moronic troglodyte but go back to sucking sony/ms' wiener
3 months ago
Anonymous
>zoomie calling other people zoomers because he wasn't there and takes rando ass screenshots thinking his shit means anything >also didn't even read the fricking posts just massed replied like the dimwitted troglodyte he is
3 months ago
Anonymous
>he didnt read shit
>all the posts say "literally yes" that it's MS/Sony fault that people care about graphics
zoomers forget that graphics is a PC thing and people who actually care about graphics don't play on consoles because they have inferior graphics
3 months ago
Anonymous
Graphics is a PC thing, but it isn't only graphics that matter in PCworld, it also performance. Consoles never actually got that second part and blindly followed the graphics whre train without the other parts to it and that's why consolegays are generally graphicsprostitutes.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>but it isn't only graphics that matter in PCworld
no one said that though. the point is that liking graphics has nothing to do with sony or MS
3 months ago
Anonymous
>>all the posts say "literally yes" that it's MS/Sony fault that people care about graphics
try reading first
i know this is hard for you
3 months ago
Anonymous
try not saying moronic things and then backtracking
3 months ago
Anonymous
Read my post you dumb Black person.
Yes it literally is. Graphics stopped being a (sane) selling point ages ago, you aren't making massive leaps in fidelity like you used to.
Compare 3rd gen to 4th, or hell literally every console gap up until 7th gen. 5th to 6th gen was the last massive jump, sure a ps3 game looks better than a ps2 game but it's nowhere near as much as a ps2 game looks compared to a ps1 game.
Grafix is an easy way to sell a game to moronic normalgays though so they tripled down on that and haven't let up on the gas pedal since, and now they're reaping what they sowed, and for what, slightly better water textures? Flying spit? Shrinking horse testicles?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Yes it literally is
nothing you typed after this matters because you already went full moron in the first sentence. it is not in any way sony or MS fault that people like graphics. it's like blaming pornhub that people like naked women
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Actively admits he didn't read my post
glad you've conceded to your moronation, i wish you well with it
3 months ago
Anonymous
>does not argue or refute the fact that he went full moron in the first sentence and is completely wrong
later homo
3 months ago
Anonymous
>he didnt read shit
3 months ago
Anonymous
>mass-replying zoomer thinks he knows anything about the history of the industry
truly grim
Yes it literally is. Graphics stopped being a (sane) selling point ages ago, you aren't making massive leaps in fidelity like you used to.
Compare 3rd gen to 4th, or hell literally every console gap up until 7th gen. 5th to 6th gen was the last massive jump, sure a ps3 game looks better than a ps2 game but it's nowhere near as much as a ps2 game looks compared to a ps1 game.
Grafix is an easy way to sell a game to moronic normalgays though so they tripled down on that and haven't let up on the gas pedal since, and now they're reaping what they sowed, and for what, slightly better water textures? Flying spit? Shrinking horse testicles?
This is what Sony has been training people to care about since the PS1 at least. LOOK AT THE SHINY GRAPHICS, LOOK SHINIER GRAPHICS, GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS. WE SPENT MILLIONS MARKETING THESE GRAPHICS, WHO CARES ABOUT GAMEPLAY, LOOK AT THE POLYGONS AND BUMP MAPS AND RAY TRACING.
Those shiny graphics propped up by huge marketing budgets have gotten so expensive that it's become Sony's downfall. A Greek playwright couldn't have written a better ending for that story.
Honestly I genuinely think Sony simply assumed they could graphics prostitute infinitely, so they figured more money goes in, prettier shit comes out, and more people buy their crap. They've actually been really fricking consistent at this and have literally always been aiming for movie game shit forever.
3 months ago
Anonymous
At a certain point there are no people left to cater to. Their audience is already as big as it can get, taking the shitty economy, down-spiraling birthrates (more births = more potential consumers) and the simple fact that not every living person likes video games into account. Anyone with common sense could have seen this coming.
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[...] >zoomers think the graphics race is a console thing that Sony/MS started
grim
Oh it absolutely wasn't started by Sony, but it was definitely perfected by them. The marketing campaign for the PS1 was huge but boiled down to one simple thing: shiny graphics and/or FMVs. They've been training their fanbase to only care about graphics since day 1.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>They've been training their fanbase to only care about graphics since day 1 >catering to what people like = training them to like it
3 months ago
Anonymous
Common sense can only take you so far in modern society. You also need to remember most companies as a rule are run but straight up sociopaths and psychopaths. The rule is if you cut down enough competition you will be carried by your niche and that's what they aimed for and that's why multiple consoles have died to sonyshit. Their issue would be seen by common sense but they don't live in a world of common sense, so they can't see the iceberg their ship is going towards they are too busy watching their competitors crash and sink first.
Sony was pretty much doomed to eventual collapse once ingame graphics became better than prerendered cutscenes they made everyone bloat their CDs with.
U first worldies always forget one important thing. On the tv it plays the news or the sports match. Most people who play games/access the the internet, it is now cheaper to only have a phone and never need a console or the pc. So the phone is the most important console right now
Piss5 is literally the wiiu of snoy. Obviously they want to sweep that failure under the rag and start anew
Actually it's not even wiiu, wiiu at least had some games unlike piss 5 which has a whopping 0 with 0 more to come. Fricking vita was better than that lmao
>no major titles >we'll still release ff7 remake 2, until dawn, stellar blade, etc
so translation of this is "no normalgay moviegames like soi of war and capeshit until 3/31/2025"
>so translation of this is "no normalgay moviegames like soi of war and capeshit until 3/31/2025"
Bro what do you think FF7Rebirth is? And I say this as a massive Remake fan that has Rebirth preordered.
Rebirth is absolutely a normalgay movie game like soi of war and the Spider-Man games.
It's done by a JP developer so it's their own spin on the formula, but it's absolutely without a doubt still that same walk-n-talk shimmy around 3rd person cinematic experience.
Yes, it was. At least the N64 had industry-defining games that are still talked about to this day. The PS5 has... a Demon Souls remake, FF7 Rebirth, and Capeshit. What an embarassment.
but seriously, I bought a ps4 pro once it got a discount and had 15, FIFTEEN EXCLUSIVE games I wanted to play... most of them are on Steam except Bloodborn, lmao
>Xbox has no games >Media and all their friends dragging the brand through the dirt, everyone shitting on them. >Sony has no games >This is fine
It's tiring.
Check Sal Romano white-knighting Sony in the comments of his website: https://www.gematsu.com/2024/02/sony-interactive-entertainment-will-not-release-any-new-major-existing-franchise-titles-before-march-31-2025
>xbox got 4 big AAA first party games releasing this year >uhm those don't count and ps has f-foamstars! >all this rumor milling fud
Not a coincidence.
>>xbox got 4 big AAA first party games releasing this year
which ones i'm genuinely curious
honestly xbox having a deal with palworld seems like the best thing that's happened to them in a while
Palworld is another good hit yeah but I mean th 4 first party games they showed in their developer direct. Hellblade 2(once a exclusive darling of the ps4), Indiana Jones, Awowed and uhh oh it was just 3 "AAA" games. Teh 4th is a new grand strategy.
Wait this game never came out? I thought it came out years ago.
Avowed looks like it could possibly be good and an attempt at an indiana jones game is novel at the least.
>Port all your games to PC >Wonder why console sales plummet
I've been saying this shit since day 1. The second normies find out PC gets the same Playstation games, their hardware sales will plummet. Enjoy losing the 30% sale revenue from 3rd party software sales bybreleasing them on your platform and having to give up 30% of your own IP's profits to Steam, morons.
Last bastion of physical ownership, and every game seems to come packaged with root kit DMR. Simply ice to have a device to play games on that you don't need to worry about that shit.
>Guys, cut all the exclusive games >Port all our exclusive games to PC >Gives players no reason to buy our consoles at all >What do you mean our sales didn't meet the goal?
Fricking hell, what is wrong with these fricktards?
How are they in such a high position that allow them to make moronic positions like this?
That's the funny thing.
They already saw how Xbox killed themselves into irrelevancy, and they just follow their footstep?
yeah, sure you get short term profits with the ported games, but we all know how the story of the golden goose ends.
>yeah, sure you get short term profits with the ported games
That's the entire point, they chase after short term gains over long term sustainability. >golden goose
They don't care because odds are once short term gains are as high as they can go and things are about to take a downward spiral, they simply bail out with their golden parachutes to the next company to start the same thing with leaving whatever dumb frick is next in line holding the dead goose.
>"Look at how many golden eggs the company got while I was in charge and how they stopped when I left!"
They'll tell prospective employers who will hire them to wring as many golden eggs out of their geese as possible. >"But you were the one who killed the goose and made it stop laying golden eggs."
a reasonable person might point out, but they don't care because as soon as the geese are laid out and dead they'll simply frick off to the next flock.
>FF7 rebirth, will sell mediocrely like FF16 >Rise of Ronin, nobody will care about when DD2 releases the same day >Stellar Blade, great ass but it's just discount Nier >aside from that, it's all gonna be GaaS also available on PC
A guy from Wall Street Journal who reports on videogames. OP could've posted Sony's actual investor report this info is taken from but he had to use a second-hand account from twitter instead because he can't stop sucking wiener.
You think I'm defending Sony? The info is all accurate, there was just no reason to make it a twitter screencap thread when there's a direct source available.
It's bad reading no matter what source you chose anyway. Only a 5.5% margin of profit on a record revenue quarter is immediate alarm bells for any business and even if you posted the President's full statement he's still talking about "Streamlining" the business (AKA Layoffs that we knew about from the Insomniac leak. Which includes studio closures) and also shows from the Insomniac leak that they know their games are too expensive to make and they need to cut costs on top of the previous reports that their live service push was already faltering. Add in that now the PS5 has been downgraded to only match the PS4 in sales instead of surpassing it and shareholders are going to flip because Sony have essentially said there is a cap on growth in the Playstation division.
Jim Ryan left a fricking incredible mess that's probably going to take years for Sony to unfrick.
Holy kek I bet the Sony higher ups are seething at the israelites in California for over spending on AAA slop, the PS5 is way more expensive to produce than the OS4 so they probably expected at least 1.5 times the sales of PS4. Hopefully this convinces Sony to cut off SIE and just focus on games made in Japan, Korea, China.
The rumor going around after the Insomniac leak was vast sweeping layoffs at their current studios and the most likely shutdowns being Media Molecule and Bend.
>its latter stage of life cycle
this feels like walking down the park and seeing an old bald fatfrick only to realize the guy is 20 yo
like you ask yourself "what the frick went wrong with his life?"
>the latter stage of its life cycle >has not gotten even a single good game >zero (0) releases planned for at least the next year >one of the shittiest adm ugliest console designs ever
Insane. This thing should be one of the biggest fricking flops of all time.
>the company is struggling.
They are tho. 5.5% operating margin on record revenue is atrocious for the Playstation Unit and the lowest since the PS3. They aren't making money on that split and outspending themselves. Spider-Man 2 only just made it's money back on 10 million units based on the Insomniac leak numbers. And with barely any first party this year they will be making less money in the next few quarters that the margin will shrink even further. There's problems in SIE that they have to fix
Sony is investing most of their profit back into playstation right now, they're not making big splash acquisitions but they''ve been acquring multiple companies and studios steadily the last couple of years. The first party sales are a non factor because Sony has never been reliant on first party game sales. People forget, or in the case of Zoomers, just don't know, that Playstation revolves around third party sales. Sony didn't even start seriously investing into their first party until the PS3.
>Still a ridiculously low margin even with third party sales never mind the vast majority of third party sales last quarter were Microsoft >Need to have first party make better money because they feel they are vulnerable now that Microsoft bought Activision and the majority of regulators across the world told them off when they complained (Hell even Lina Khan and the FTC turned on them recently) >Live service initiative while having a good start with Helldivers 2 still has two games already cancelled and reports that there's more cancelations to come
Nah, things are looking disastrous for Sony right now. Especially as the majority of regulators around the globe told them "You defined yourself as the market monopoly and make business moves to cement yourself as the monopoly. Why should we block anything Microsoft does?" >"First party shouldn't be the money maker!"
Funny how that works out plenty for Nintendo and not for Sony.
That court case was fricking wonderful, sony admitting no one liked their garbage and one of the judges saying "Nintendo just makes games that people like, have you tried that?"
>Funny how that works out plenty for Nintendo and not for Sony
it works for nintendo because nintendo has a fanbase of shit eaters with no standards. when sony makes a turd it's rejected, when nintendo makes a turd it makes bank
>majority of third party sales were microsoft
Holy dishonesty Batman! That's only by virtue of Microsoft closing on ABK in October, their software sales are utter shit otherwise.
>Need to have first party to make money
They never said this at all, Ryan even said in court that they use money from third party games to fund the first party projects. I.e The first party projects only exist becuase of the third party sales.
>muh regulators
Yeah and now MS is going third party, so much for the hope you gays had of MS crushing Sony.
Jim Ryan also said the first party sales make no money in comparison to the third party sales and all reports we have from Sony is that they are pivoting to live service games because those first party games are too costly to make and make so little money.
More people are building AMD PCs instead because that's literally what consoles are. You can build a PS5 Pro right now using the same Ryzen and Radeon arch it will use.
>overspend for holidays >still didn't even meet their own goal
Hahaha and the best part is that the console sales don't even matter because no one is buying games on ps5.
They just confirm that first party is no longer sustainable. Sony has to port more games to other platforms.
Jim Ryan also said the first party sales make no money in comparison to the third party sales and all reports we have from Sony is that they are pivoting to live service games because those first party games are too costly to make and make so little money.
Sony will go third party in your lifetime
>Sony will go third party in your lifetime
I am not surprised. Of course, I will get used to it. These snoyggers will have to cope it.
PS5 and Series X both launched during a huge pandemic and subsequent loss of disposable income by a huge percentage of the population. This meant very low initial sales, which translated to publishers refusing to make games exclusive to the new gen, which further disincentivized buying a new console.
They simply can't recover from that failure to launch.
>PS5 and Series X both launched during a huge pandemic and subsequent loss of disposable income by a huge percentage of the population.
This is the exact opposite of what happened. Everyone got free money and EVERYTHING in games sold ridiculously more during that period. A failure to make a sale in the absolute perfect conditions for it is the best proof possible.
No anon stop. The Wii is a console for casuals and non-gamers. REAL gamers liked the 360 and the PS3, which were the REAL and TRUE next gen consoles. Get it together.
>xbox and ps struggling while nintendo is booming
They are trying to fix a system that's clearly not broken. They think exclusives are a thing of the past but they aren't. The only people that bought the PS5 and the Series X are the normies and poorgays that are too dumb / poor to get a PC and just want to play their sports games and COD. Real gamers are on their PCs and Switches.
Exclusives are a thing of the past because Sony and MS exclusives were never good at any point. Most Niᥒteᥒd𐐬 exclusives are trash too while I'm at it. There are no system moving multiplats today and it's only gonna get worse with the ~~*culture*~~ being brewed, simple as.
Exclusives are a thing of the past because journos and children with no disposable income whined about them loudly enough, for long enough, until greedy shareholders got dollar signs in their eyes.
Multiplatform development has been terrible for the industry because, as they're no longer restricted by platform, those same shareholders now expect their audience to be every human being on Earth. That's why every AAA title now looks the same, plays the same and is designed by committee.
>Most PS5 games keep releasing on PS4, some even on fricking Switch
Maybe they should've gone for a weaker but cheaper console. No point if the devs aren't even using all the juice anyway
All games nowadays with few exceptions have the same ugly characters with the same hairdos, they go out of their way to insult the established characters, they look worse than last gen games, and they preach to you constantly about ESG and other crap.
In 2013 you actually had good console games that didn't constantly preach about ebil white men while everyone is a huge ugly fat black with that shitty hairdo
Dont care. Console gaming is a bigger cancer on the industry than mobile gaming. Despite the 14+ years of doomposting mobile games and their practices havent successfully penetrated any other gaming market
Unless Sony and Microsoft offer literal billions its will never happen. Rockstar has their hands on arguably the biggest current video game IP and they're not gonna shackle it to 2 systems
You are wrong sony made 2 billion dollars in pc port alone in 2022 they know how much money is in pc market and know all that money will jump ship to ps5 if they pay for exclusivity. Cry harder pc port beggar
None of the big publishers like the gaben tax they just have to offer T2 a bigger cut of the pie hell they could even negotiate some deal for "GTA online hours played" since paid online is a goldmine for Sony/MS.
Volvo takes a 30% cut which is standard in the industry.
During the Apple vs Epic trial, it was also revealed that Epic gave Sony a higher cut than the usual 30%.
>30% cut which is standard in the industry.
It absolutely is not the standard unless you think apples mobile store of all things is what you measure videogames on.
30-40% brick and mortar stores
30% on psn
30% on xbox store
30% on steam (sliding scale of 30%-15% though)
15% on epic (sliding scale of 15%-5% though)
30% apple store
30% google play store
I will be, because MS and SIE literally can't afford it.
Unless Sony and Microsoft offer literal billions its will never happen. Rockstar has their hands on arguably the biggest current video game IP and they're not gonna shackle it to 2 systems
Rockstar won't release it since they fear someone getting free money from Mods and by extension not buying Shark cards
PS3 and PS4 were 7 years long because Sony could do that, and could afford to, and could afford for their next gens (ps4 and ps5) to have cross platform titles because there was no threat to sales.
The switch 2 represents a bit of an existential threat to Sony because of the possibility that any PS5 game could potentially run on the switch 2 with the creative use of DLSS. To them this means the remainder of the PS5's lifespan and the early year or two of the PS6 may see most third parties releasing nearly every game on switch 2, so Sony is trying to end this gen as soon as possible with Xbox soon out of the picture.
I'd expect a PS6 by September 2026 at the latest
They are both massive fricking idiots for releasing their exclusive games on PC. Why buy a console when you can be a Steamlet and play both PS and Xbox exclusives. It's unfair and they have nobody else to blame but themselves.
They were moving this way since the rise of early phone games like Angry Birds
The new divide in vidya will be PC and Nintendo on one side and all these other losers on the other trying to turn the ideas PC and Nintendo come up with into slot machines
can't blame them, moderm games just suck
What are these posts? Is it 2009 again?
No price cut either
No price cut while the PS5 Pro will be potentially released sometime later this year. Any bets on the price? I'm betting. $700.
WHAT IS THE POINT OF RELEASING A PRO WHEN PS5 IS OFFICIALLY DESCRIBED AS "ENTERING ITS LATER STAGE"?
SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS MADNESS TO ME
Shut up and buy new thing goy
>Worse games
>Higher price
>Massive, ugly box
>Censorship
WOW
Don't worry, SONY doesn't need to make games any more, XBox will do it for them.
No game, no sale.
Consoles are so convenient tho' just pop the disc in and play.
>Consoles are so convenient tho' just pop the disc in and play.
in the past maybe.
many games ship unplayable and buggy and require updates or in the worst case an active internet connection.
Nintendo still does it mostly, but yeah it's not true for sony/ms
it's more convenient now you don't even have to insert a disc. all my series x games are digital (they update automatically when the console is off) and there's quick resume so you don't even have to load them from the beginning. most convenient way to play games tbqh
AS LONG AS YOU STAND BEFORE LOVE
>implying mobile games aren't real games
drown yourself in a toilet, boomie
Name actual video games made for phones (games before 2010 don't count because back then they actually were trying to make games)
Genshin Impact
>genshit
literally saving Snoy... sadly
most MTX spent after CoD
>gacha shit
Pac-Man 256
Why is 2010 your cut-off point when that year Cut the Rope and Fruit Ninja released?
Many great games still come out, you spend too much time on Ganker
>Many great games still come out
name 5 that came out last year
Hi-Fi Rush
someone help me with 4 more
AC6
Alan Wake 2
BG3
Dredge
Lies of P
Remnant 2
Street Fighter 6
Theatrhythm Final Bar Line
Asgards Wrath 2 which is basically just Skyrim except built from the ground up for VR
Thanks Aons, I knew I was forgetting some Thoroughly enjoyed AC6 and Lies of P, and will probably be getting some of the others when they go on sale.
RE4
Arry Potta
Rogue trader
All I can think of for PC.
what about TotK
have a nice day
There are great games coming out, it just happens that I don't need a PS5 to play them since 99.99% of them are multiplatform indies.
>indies
>great games
a good indie game is 1 in a thousand
and there's tens of thousands every year
there's only about 14k total on steam
sturgeon's law
Otherworld Legends is pretty damn good. It's even got co-op, only thing you pay for are extra characters and skins and even then they are like 3 dollars max.
touhou
raid shadow legends
> cope because you cant keep yourself from buying shit. seethe because it has deeper rpg mechanics than anything on console
Diablo immortal
> yea thats right boomer we all remember your tears on that one hows it feel to get a mobile port on your pc
>Raid shadow legends
nice one Rabbi
> cant build teams with debuff, +atk on debuff
> can only handle 1 char at a time
> is afraid of change even when its objectively good
Keep coping and waiting for non woke garbage
> stellar blade
Ive had more sexy b***hes in genshin than youve had in nogames
>raidslop shadow slop.
>its objectively good
You dumb fricking moron, he's saying that because raid shadow legends is literally Israel's first gacha.
Yeah, if you play it you support muslim genocide
Damn, gonna download it right now then
>tooshit
Ancient arcadeslop.
>raid shadow legends
Imagine having such abysmal taste.
Nikke: Goddess of victory
And people perfer mobile games because console quit putting attractive women in games and are just cinematic slop or ubi open world slop
>people perfer mobile games because console quit putting attractive women in games
No non-incel genuinely believes this.
Where do you think you are?
>incel
Feral subhuman driven by instincts or creepy conformity cultist.
AAA crashing right now btw
downwell
arcaea
Final Fantasy Dimensions
They aren't.
>later stage of life cycle
>still no games
It's over for snoys
Competency Crisis
maybe stop releasing woke trash?
>PS5 barely keeping pace with the same sales trajectory as the PS4
>Sony not hitting sales goals
>No major games released in the next financial year
It's all ogre
Major games from EXISITING franchaises. We're getting new Sony IPs this year.
Like?
No one knows yet. They'll be announced this year then released Q4 2024.
see:
Stellar blade and that's it, bro
Sony doesn't own the Stellar Blade IP. Neither do they own Rise Of The Ronin
Okay, I was wrong. So Sony has no games until March 2025 then
What will come out on March 2025?
my phone can run stellar blade and they will port it. Well get infinite costumes too.
Nice imaginary games bro lmao
You complain when Sony announces their games years in advance, you complain when Sony announces games the same year as their release dates. There's no winning.
There have been no announcements though you dumb frick
Because they're announcing the games this year instead of at the start of the gen like Microsoft did.
So until they're announced they're imaginary games, got it
Have you seen "New IPs" from Western studios in the past five years
>ps5
>late stage
what was the prime?
Horizon forbidden west
>also available for ps4
when scalpers bought out the entire stock and snoy believed that someone cares about piss5
Console cycle is genreally 5-7 years.
We're like 3.5 years into the PS5s lifespan, so it's already past the halfway point, well past it if they're pushing towards a 5-6 year cycle instead of 6-7.
PS4 and Xbone lasted 10 years
PS3 last 8 years
PS2 lasted 12 years
and now the PS5 will barely make it to 6. Fricking kek
You're talking actual support lifespan of the console.
I'm talking about the time between console generations.
PS2 to PS3 was only 6.5 years between releases
Granted I should have worded my second sentence differently, it should say we're like 3.5 years into the console cycle, not the console lifespan.
>latter stages of life cycle
Man wtf, and here I was planning to buy a PS5 to play GTA 6. Should I wait until a next gen console drops?
Wait for the PC version
I don't have space for a gaming PC
If you have space for a PS5 then you have space for a "gaming pc". You don't need the biggest and most power hungry components to build a PC that is around the PS5 in performance, you can get the same performance out of a box that is more rectangular than a PS5 but not much bigger
It's almost like.......... to sell hardware........................... you need to have............ SOFTWARE................
>latter stage of life cycle
>all the games people give a shit about still come out on PS4
kekerino
Test
>PS5 failed to hit 25 milion sales goal
>Snoy had to cut FY's goal to 21 million instead
>PS5 entering "its latter stage of life" not 3 years and 3 months in
>PS5 hardware sales to slow down
>no first party until march 2025 at the earliest
>12 exclusives since the release in Nov 2020 (FF7R not included as the exclusivity runs out three months after release)
MFW (you) got baited into buying a PS5 and PS+
>later stage of its life cycle
Fricking already? Christ in heaven this gen is such a fricking disaster for everyone not named Nintendo.
Nintendo didn't even play a role in this gen aside from a mid generation refresh of their last gen console. They're 2 steps behind and yet still winning the game.
What gen you think the Switch is from, gay? Nintendo won this gen back in 2020
go back to sucking dicks on reddit
The thing came out right between the mid generation refreshes from team blue and team green. It's absolutely a last generation console.
So, according to your logic, PS4 was second place then? Nintendo won the last generation is what you're saying?
Is that supposed to be a gotcha? Yes Switch is the highest selling gen 8 console, obviously. Who the hell thinks that a console that came out during gen 8 with the hardware of gen 7 is in fact gen 9
>Who the hell thinks that a console that came out during gen 8 with the hardware of gen 7 is in fact gen 9
Because hardware raw power doesn't dictate a console's placement in a generation, you dumbass. Switch is gen 9 because the Wii U was gen 8, get it? Is it that complicated for your CTE brain to understand?
>Wii U: 2012 Gen 8
(5 YEAR GAP)
>Switch: 2017 Gen 9
XD
see
I accept your concession.
I accept that your a dick sucking avatar attention prostitute.
>"I accept that your a dick sucking avatar attention prostitute."
>my fanfiction is reality
ok
but enough about you.
check gen divisions, there is a consensus with Wii U as 8gen and Switch as 9gen
Gen is not a tech/hardware thing, but a time thing.
always funny how ninty gayots think they've won a fight because they've given up since the Wii.
That's how they won Nintendo stop compiting in a homosexual console war and put all they're effort on games and inovative gameplay or hardware instead of how powerful the console is Wii was succesful and Switch embraced the mobile hand held console market first and Xbox and Playstation copied Nintendo in the motion controls and Playstation with the portable and they failed because they didn't invent it first
>always funny how ninty gayots think they've won a fight because they've given up since the Wii.
yea "given up" when the switch is gonna outsell the PS2 this year lmao
switch is a handheld lol. they've given up on consoles
>D-Doesn't count
and that handhold is gonna outsell the ps2
and it won't be impressive because it's just a handheld
>and it won't be impressive because it's just a handheld
I can heard you fighting the tears while saying that
That just makes sony's failures with PSP and Vita even bigger lol
It's a shame that Sony gave up on the handheld market after being absolutely humiliated by nintendo twice in a row 🙂
and sony is about to get yet another embarassment in handhelds
You win the game by not playing by someone else rules.
Sony and Microsoft got into a piss war that ended up ballooning dev cost to the point is almost unsistainable
Nintendo on the other hand decided to step back and keep things "downgraded" but they dont need to break bank and prioritize the gameplay aspects
cry me a river
Switch 2 with PS4-level performance is all that's needed, the only real benefit beyond that has been the reduction of load times which is simply SSD-related. Publishers should realize the diminishing returns against time and budget from going over that target isn't worth it.
>Publishers should realize the diminishing returns against time and budget from going over that target isn't worth it
they should, but they won't
if switch is last gen, sony hasn't won a gen since the ps2.
If the switch is current gen, everyone is being utterly destroyed.
snoys can't win either way.
its way worse for sony. microshite is so big that they dont really seem to care if they're bleeding money with the xbox
That's what happens when you don't have a killer app.
Their old partnership with Squenix amounts to nothing anymore since they produce shit like FF16 and Rebirth which just aren't exciting enough to buy a PS5 for and they never went out to look for a better partner.
And then shit like GT7 released on PS4 and PS5, so why bother buying a PS5?
Gaming is evolving Kids grow up with Nintendo still and love quality experiences, there are still good games today 23 was one of the best years for experimental titles in decades expand your taste and you'll enjoy many titles that lay hidden and if modern games aren't your cup of tea consider exploring old libraries of consoles gone that still stand the test of time.
''struggling''
xjeets are getting desperate I see
Nintenbro here. This is just hilarious because even with Xbox imploding Sony are still running themselves out of business with zero games.
The PC + Nintendo future looks bright
>silly tendie doesn't know PC chads just emulate their shitty toy hardware
Oink Oink, Eric
>PS5 is entering "its latter stage of life cycle".
This is complete and utter nonsense if it's what Sony thinks. Devs haven't even moves from cross-platform releases. We have just barely even started the current generation and they think it's already nearing the end?
>We have just barely even started the current generation
I don't want to quote fricking Pink Floyd... But you missed the starting gun
WE USED TO LOOK FOR GREAT LICENSES
GOD OF WAR
METAL GEAR SOLID
FINAL FANTASY
NOW EVERTYTHING IS SHIT. WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOOK UP FOR. ONLY PRAYING THAT SOMETHING GOOD IS GONNA POP. THERE IS NOTHING RGEAT THAT IS EXPECTED TO BE THERE. NOT REASON ENOUGH TO BUY A CONSOLE.
WHO THE FRICK BUYS A CONSOLE TO PLAY A HANDFUL OF "NICE" GAMES ? WHERE ARE THE BULLDOZERS ?
Nobody makes system sellers anymore. Dark times.
Third party exclusives are basically dead. The best you can get these days is a timed exclusive unless you're outright paying for the game entirely like Nintendo did with Bayonetta 2 and 3. Publishers have tasted the fruit of multiplatform releases and they refuse to go back. Unfortunately, third party exclusives were Playstation's bread and butter.
That isn't to say that PS hasn't had good first party IPs... but those IPs never had a very long life. Spyro and Crash were let go in the leap from PS1 to PS2, Jak & Daxter were basically abandoned after the PS2... Gran Turismo, God of War, and Ratchet & Clank are their oldest IPs, and none of them really shine as bright as they did back in their respective glory days. TLOU already floundered with its ONE sequel. Uncharted was always the junk food of their IPs. And we all know what they did to Japan Studio and the countless number of games they used to pump out or at least aide development in.
PS was always on borrowed time. They didn't build a good set of first party developers, or first party IPs. Hell, their biggest release last year was a first party game using a third party IP(Spider-Man.) They don't have the exclusives to support their branding, instead they're hanging on from the PS4's sheer momentum. It's the Xbox 360 of this generation. People will buy it but only because their friends have it.
For their sake, let's hope they never make an Xbone tier frick up because they'll literally never recover from it if they do.
>God of War [...] are their oldest IPs, and none of them really shine as bright as they did back in their respective glory days
Why do you morons always say such incredibly stupid and easily debunkable shit as this?
Talking about the games being good, not the sales. nuGoW is shit compared to the first three.
Can't move a goalpost if I ever set one down, moron.
>Sales collapse by 8 million for Ragnarok
>Easily debunkable
>Sales of 2018 are more than the entire series before it, combined.
>Sales of Ragnarok are almost as much as the sales of 1-4 combined.
No matter how you try to spin this, you are wrong.
>nobody
nintendo does, multiple times.
>latter stage of life cycle
>still no games
oh no not that Takashi bum.
>goty makes triple of what a dead gacha games make in a month
lmao
lgbt+ games won...
>what is math
damn you picked some very specific cherries there. Hows it feel to be poor?
PS5 has fallen behind PS4 launch aligned. Oof.
I wonder if it will do 100 million considering Sony said they expect sales to slow down. Would still be impressive with no games.
>ps5 is already over
it just feels like they just came out...
Because it only actually started to go anywhere in March of 2023 which was around when they finally got their chip shortages from Covid under control and you could actually start buying them in stores. There is no way they consider this the end of the generation because we literally haven't even stopped cross platform games with the PS4 yet.
>Later stage of life cycle
>Barely any games that aren't remasters or re-releases.
What a time to be alive, glad I didn't spend $500 on one
>later stage of its life cycle
What the frick.
How can it already be in the later stage of its life cycle? Didn't people just start buying it recently, after years of supply shortages? Now that it finally has a sizeable playerbase, they're abandoning it. Smooth.
I'm guessing those supply shortages are what really fricked the PS5. Publishers don't want to invest money developing a game for a console that nobody can buy, causing nogaems. And that causes a negative feedback loop: if there are no players, then there will be no gaems, and if there are no gaems, then there will be no players.
>Now that it finally has a sizeable playerbase, they're abandoning it.
Sounds like the Vita, they dropped support too early meanwhile devs kept making games for it until two years ago.
WHERE
ARE
THE
GAMES
wait one more year, pls understand.
They outright said no big first-party releases until the end of March 2025.
See:
Greatness awaits
You have one. It is PS5! You are supposed to stare at it. This is "playing"
This. Spending $500 or $0 doesn't change anything. You're still playing 0 games.
>More and more zoomers prefer mobile games over a real one
Zoomer here. We don't.
mobile games are the only place with good games nowadays compared to console PC slop
It's most interesting to see how Nintendo will react to all of this tbh since they'll be the last 'traditional' console company. If they can't hold that niche down its safe to say that old-style console business strategy has gone the way of the Dodo.
The absolute bare minimum nintendo has to do is not pull another pic related.
Is Ganker ready for next gen to not be a power increase but Xbox and Playstation releasing handhelds that are Series S-tier?
Fans and Devs won't make the jump, I fear. You already had them complaining about the Series S two years in. Plus Nintendo will have the advantage since their next gen Switch will have been in the market early by two to three years
Switch one gave me performance issues on some Zelda titles so if switch 2 specs are bad they can suck a fat one as I order an emulator deck
I am done with subpar products
Ok, godspeed anon
I'm all for it, all it means is the death of consoles and a rise in quality of mobile games. Maybe we'll go back to the early android market days.
The new market will be developed for mobile and ported to other shit.
Im not a fanboy im a fandroid.
>PS5 poor availability
>After years it is finally in supply
>Because of availability issues it still feels new in the mind but its already becoming dated
Sony did it to themselves, they did not protect their product from scalpers and are now having to lie in the bed they shat themselves
They still sold 55 million consoles by doing jackshit, I doubt they're that worried.
At a loss, right?
>"PC Chads" later this year when they can't play the new 3D Mario
Do people older than 8years old actually play mario
>implying Switch 2 won't have a 100% working emulator withing 5 hours of release
>no exclusives = no reason to buy a ps5 over a xbox/pc
>Microsoft gave up just when Sony starts struggling
It is the god damn Xbox curse again.
No fanservice/ecchi games and only ugly hags. No reason to spend any money. Waited long time for a censored remake by SE. Hope they go under.
TOTAL
GAME
INDUSTRY
DESTRUCTION
I really want all of this to be true.
It's all from Sony's latest investor report.
They literally have no games and no reason to upgrade to ps5. This gen is a disaster.
>literally have no games
u r trollin ban from sonyera permanently
It is true. Comes from the investors report. Sony missed all targets for the PS5, it's declining lifetime against the PS4 and the profit margin has plunged back down to it's lowest since the PS3 era.
No wonder Jim Ryan was asked to leave. At this rate Sony will be doing a podcast saying they are bringing Spider-Man and God Of War to Xbox by the end of the next week.
>At this rate Sony will be doing a podcast saying they are bringing Spider-Man and God Of War to Xbox by the end of the next week.
>everyone sits down to watch Xbox die tomorrow
>Phil announces them bringing Starfield to Playstation
>snoys are jacking off furiously
>then announces Sony bringing TLOU to Xbox
>camera close up on his smug face
>podcast ends
>Ganker becomes unusable until the end of time
>Ganker becomes unusable until the end of time
It already is.
I am looking forward to seeing that.
>At this rate Sony will be doing a podcast saying they are bringing Spider-Man and God Of War to Xbox by the end of the next week.
Sounds good to me. The cost of making games is constatnly rising. Sony have to find a way to recoup this by going to be multiplatform.
ONE GAME
I DONT KNOW WHY
>PS5 entering its latter stage of life cycle
wut, it has like 5 games (being generous)
>unironically releases no new games for the entire gen
>Sony buys Bungie
>Bungo tells Naughty Dog they have to become a live service studio to support TLOU Online with the scope ND wants
>Cancelled project
>Nothing till 2028
NEXT GAME, NEXT GAME
>Sony and Xbox
No games
>nintendo
Has games
No shit they are struggling
Shitposting aside this is really unexpected, from all indications the Spny train was chugging right along but now they're revising down massively, projecting an even further decline in sales for next year, and are saying they have nothing for their big IPs for an entire fricking year. What the hell happened?
Six live service games canceled.
>Shitposting aside
you know you're on Ganker right, not Sonyera?
They canceled the big live service plans since Bungo showed how stupid those are remember kids don't hype your crappy dlc up too much
>latter stage of its life cycle
But the PS5 released like a month ago, right?
Nintendo has such an open goal now for their next system. We'll see if they manage to frick it up
Why does Nintendo even need to release the new Switch now. It can keep costing and BTFOing the current nogamestations
Feasible multiplats.
To increase revenue since the Switch is selling fewer units every single quarter
PS5 still on track to outsell the PS4.
Ganker will be malding forver
It isn't, it's fallen behind.
>Sony has to cut sales expectations for the PS5
>"BUT IT WILL OUTSELL THE PS4"
No, it won't. The PS4 had the market to itself as its competition was the WiiU and the Xbox One. And even in that position, it got outpaced, outsold, maimed, shot and executed by the Switch. The PS5 isn't outselling the PS4, and it sure as shit isn't going to outsell the Switch.
since when are consoles in competition with handhelds
Well that was likely the worst generation of gaming for a while. Thanks god for PC and AI.
>ps5 is already entering its latter stage of life cycle
hows that possible when it feels like this generation has barely gotten off the ground yet
>PS5 is entering the latter stages of its life cycle
Wasn't it just in "no one can actually buy the thing" mode like 2 years ago?
t. doesn't really follow console news
Yes. 2020 to the very early months of 2023 you couldn't buy it without stalking Twitter bots and Discord bots. It's only just started to actually become available in stores and online with no stock issues.
>latter stage of life cycle
>never even began, most of the games are cross gen
Lmao
I'm waiting for the pro
Enjoy playing almost 0 games with constanr 60 fps if they borher put a patch
dragon's dogma 2 will have uncapped fps so easy 60fps
The ps5 has been out for 4 years, consoles generations are usually only about 5-8 years long.
So yes, it's in the latter half of it's life cycle.
Except we had Covid for nearly three of those years affecting everything from system procurement to game development. To treat gen 9 like it's a normal generation is idiotic. The realistic take on it is that this generation has been out for a single year. One. The previous three basically don't exist because no one could buy the thing.
gaming was just as shit before covid
Which isn't the point. The point is that Covid screwed everything up for this gen and it just started early last year. 2020 to the start of 2023 was essentially a write off for gen 9 since even the Series systems barely got games for them and mainly got Xbone games with better performance and that's it.
Oof. Guess that's what happens when you release a console with no games.
>stock shortage only ended not even a year ago
>we barely started getting current-gen titles, after 3 years of cross-ge
>no big exclusives for a year, just shitty GaaS like Concord
>"PS5 is in the latter stage of its life"
These people are fricking high
Of course it can't reach the sales expectations even when the other home console is dead
>Xbox is literally going 3rd party on the 15th
>snoy still can't capitalize on jack shit because it hasn't had games for 3 generations now besides bloodborne.
Says whatever you want about Nintendo, but Jesus Christ at least they actually deliver when it comes to good exclusives every year and giving you actual reasons to buy the console
Ah yes, 134th Mario and 75th Zelda.
And holy shit is that fricking Pokemon?
Wow.
Pikmin 4 was better than any exclusive Sony or Xbox released in the past 5 years (which is nothing).
nintendookies as usual say that anything on switch is better than anything not on switch, your posts are worthless
Still better then Sony or Xbox, the frick do they even have? Nintendo gays have no standards but at least they have shit to play.
Lies of P
Also on PC 🙂
If you have a Nintendo you can't also have a pc
every switch game is also on PC 🙂
NO!!!@@
NINTENDO KILL THESE THIEVES!!!!!!!!!
out on steam and elsewhere
Cool so do tendies get to play it?
tendies don't have pc, of course not
they might have a notebook for school or work, but not a gaming rig
if you don't have both a switch and a PC can you even call yourself a gamer?
PC is just a 2000$ piracy machine
also for making ai cp (legal)
The moment Switch 2 is revealed to support 3rd parties, it's over
MH Wilds and other Capcom games available d1 on Switch 2 will already generate infinite seethe
Running at 20fps or through cloud.
>we may not have games now, but it's possible we could have some in future after buying another console
Congratulations
but switch already supports 3rd parties, it's just that no one cares because it's the worst platform to play them
>MH Wilds and other Capcom games available d1 on Switch 2
Two more weeks nitendiesisters!
MH is already confirmed mobile bro calm your tendies
>Nintendo telling Platinum not to tone down Bayonetta's sexiness during the development of Bayo 2
>Pyra's existence
>Zelda's ass buff
The only reason why Stellar Blade stands out is because Sony is funding it which is good don't get me wrong. I hope we get more Stellar Blades and less TLOU2/capeshit. If it were Nintendo, then it would be business as usual.
>Forgetting that year and a half when NoA went insane and made some of the worst localizations ever
Don't act like it couldn't happen again.
armored core 6
elden ring
they are always the best games of the year
though I understand if you don't want to play another mario/zelda... but 120 million tendies do 😉
a trillion shit eating flies can't be wrong
trolling aside, it's like capeshit... I don't mind watching a good one once a year, but would get tired if they came out every month and were shit as modern Marvel
but resume yer silly console war from 1995, don't mind me
it's not hard to deliver when your userbase has the lowest standards in the industry
As opposed to fans of cinematic movie games and literal Marvel capeshit.
Nintendo need to swoop in with the switch 2 announcement next month to finish off Snoy and xbox
this always bugged, this is clearly the case, so why have neither sony nor microsoft create a playstation/xbox phone line with more gaymin capabilities (inate connection to xbox/ps controllers, connection to the respective consoles, etc), they are both in the phone industry already, seems like an easy business decision to make?
Sony killed themselves by focusing on billion dollar movies that take 5+ years to make. Multiple smaller games to bridge the gap between big bets is the way to go, and is something Nintendo has been doing for the last two gens.
Xbox killed itself by buying up studios but never making a single game with them. I don't know what exactly happened to stagnate them, you'd think they'd be able to crank out games like no tomorrow, yet all these studios seem to be checking in their paychecks and never ever actually doing anything. I would have thought there are enough project managers on Xbox side to properly control the studios, but apparently not.
Mobile gaming? You mean Genshin? What other mobile game do zoomoids even play?
Nintendo just does what Nintendo does.
>What other mobile game do zoomoids even play?
fortnite, apex legends, star rail, coomergachas, etc.
also PubG
Fortnite and Apex are mainly played on consoles. Star Rail maybe. And coomergachas are the working mans game, they are the ones with money to whale.
True I forgot Clash of Clans and Clash Royale, those are huge.
Emulation
toram
>What other mobile game do zoomoids even play?
Hundreds of games you've never heard of
Such as Clash of whatever the frick
You are from 2015?
Go look up how much the King part of ABK made in 2023 and you'll realize the true reason Microsoft bought them.
1.3 bil
Less than in years. It's dying.
>Multiple smaller games to bridge the gap between big bets is the way to go, and is something Nintendo has been doing for the last two gens
Nintendo doesn't make "big bets" they only make shitty low budget games and they only succeed because tendies have low standards
Oink oink, Eric
They're only struggling in relation to AAA game budgets and expectations. Stop being obsessed with graphics, motion capture, etc. and you won't have issues as the console userbase is more than large enough. We're talking dozens of millions of users even on the Xbox, let alone PS5.
The Vita died prematurely while still having more exclusive games than the PS5
jarpig VNs for incels are not games
Realistically since jimbo is gone, is there hope for the japs to fix Sony next gen? I don't want them to die I want them to do better.
Snoy should die regardless of who is in charge. Just burn it to the ground.
Any radical change would still take ~5 years.
GTA 6 will save them, as always.
And MH when it comes to Japan
PS5 has literally less games than CD-i
>ps5 released in 2020
there is no way
There is actually no fricking way
I refuse to belive it's been that long
Third worlders aren't buying consoles anymore because lol too poor and having a PlayStation in your house isn't a status symbol anymore
Source: am a third worlder
How do you realistically fix Sony?
moving it back to Japan
(will never happen)
>PS5 is entering "its latter stage of life cycle"
>Still no games
Not even the PS3 was this bad. That took 3 years to start getting games at a consistent basis.
ps3 was good after slim launch
PS3 was pretty great already picking up the pace on the second year
>MGS4
>LittleBigPlanet
>Valkyria Chronicles
>Wipeout HD
And then there were console multiplats
>Battlefield BC1
>Condemned 2
>Burnout Paradise
>GTA4
>Soul Calibur
>Many others
Same goes for Xbox, the current generation is a joke even compared to 360/PS3
Console gayming death when? It's worthless shit now. homosexuals will have to upgrade their PS5 soon without having played a single game
~20 million core gamers pay sony 10+$ a month to use their own internet... nah, they will never stop paying
ill be surprised if microsoft puts out anything other than a low end windows machine as their next "console" since theyve gone so hard at having every xbox game on pc
It comes with a kb+m
I hate it when Ganker is somehow right. But let's be real the frick did Sony think was gonna happen, betting everything on capeshit and 6 years long bajillion dollar productions? Just give us back AA games. Cool, inventive gameplay or simply solid proven formulas done with smaller budgets. Where did it all go so wrong?
Banishers Ghosts of New Eden just came out
>also on PC
pirates don't play games, they just download and let it rot in their hard drive
Only miles Spiderman 3 will save Sony, you have to believe!
>Where did it all go so wrong?
Moving to California and putting people at the top who don't understand video games or the market in the slightest is where it went wrong.
>Where did it all go so wrong?
When they closed Japan Studio. Also when ND and SP stopped making Jak and Sly games.
>Where did it all go so wrong?
Killing Japan studio and chasing after AAA bloat and GAAS games. Reminder that Sony has six Horizon projects in development even after Forbidden West flopped.
nothing? they did just kill xbox, jim ryan for life
>But let's be real the frick did Sony think was gonna happen, betting everything on capeshit and 6 years long bajillion dollar productions?
They thought they'll get compensated for it by ESG investors (for filling those turds with diversity) and they were right. AAA companies now make games with the highest budget possible and the highest level of pozz possible and it's worth it because trillion dollar investment companies want to pozz the world.
Basically the main reason sony was dominant is owed to the ps1 and ps2 and their massive libraries of games. After that it went into a slow decline.
NO
ONE
GIVES
A
SHIT
ABOUT
SONYS
SHOVELWARE
FIRST
PARTY
GARBAGE
That trash never sold the consoles no matter how much you piss and cry and insist it is the truth. TLoU and its massive shilling campaign was a mistake jesus man.
The PS3's slow start allowed westerners to weasel into positions of power within the brand by blaming Kutaragi and Kaz, pointing to the 360 and saying they needed to do things that way.
>PS5 is entering "its latter stage of life cycle"
IT'S RELEASED JACK FRICKING SHIT.
>five hundred and fifty euros (550€) console three years after release
>Hur dur why is it not selling as well as we expected
Are they unironically moronic at Sony?
you forgot the part about the economy being in the shitter, but yes, they are moronic
MY MONEY IS FRICKING WORTHLESS. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhh
You better buy one before it gets worse!
buy what? a console with no games?
GREATNESS AWAITS
GREATNESS NEVER COMES
no worries microsoft is porting their exclusives over lmao
what exclusives?
none of these consoles have fricking games
My salary didn't increase by 20% in 4 years
should've worked harder
Once Xbox is gone, watch the PS6 cost 800,-$
Ain't nobody gonna buy that shit at 800 a pop.
>late stage
>Still no games
if someone from 2000's would saw the gaming industry right now (especially Sony/Microsoft) they would ask if a crash happen again
WHY DOES EVERY GAME NEED SIX YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT, AND COST $200 MILLION?
WHY DOES EVERY GAME NEED SIX YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT, AND COST $200 MILLION?
WHY DOES EVERY GAME NEED SIX YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT, AND COST $200 MILLION?
3000 devs
same numbers of coders
homosexualry, modern politics, 4k and muh graphic, that's it and the majority of new games still lok like shit and even worse than the game launched almost a decade ago
Left has personality and sass of a Harley Quin in her walking
Right is lacks any personality and is sanitised and desexualized for the fear of a male gaze truly a slop game
If you love aislop you are homosexual.
and you're an esl moron
Because publishers are morons.
If they had to actually take a critical look at what games to invest and what to drop, they would have to know what a good game looks like and the people at the top of publishers don't play games or even know anyone who does. If you showed them Sonic 2006 and Sonic Generations side by side and asked them which of them is the beloved one, they wouldn't be able to tell you. They might even pick the former because it looks more "realistic". Every game only "needs" six years of development and cost $200 million because until recently those games were at least guaranteed to make their money back, but budgets have gotten so bloated and the economy has gotten so shitty that even that's not true anymore. They only keep it going this way because they literally don't know how to do it any other way.
>muh graphics
>muh VA
Both of these dramatically inflate costs and amount of work for a given game even if at its core it is nothing more than a walking sim interrupted by cutscenes.
You wanted Immersive™ games
You wanted Cinematic™ games
>>muh VA
dont forget the Kojima "Muh celebrities"
I wanted upskirt pantsu perverted JRPGs ;_;
Something so impossibly vile would never pass the morality review.
Have you tried mobile games?
I never wanted this. Sony and Microsoft drilled that into everyone's heads in the 7th gen and the dumb sheep accepted it. They were either too greedy or too stupid to realize what that would mean for the industry though and we're now seeing the collapse they started a decade ago.
>it's sony and MS fault that people like graphics
>it's sony and MS fault that people like graphics
yes unironically
>zoomers think the graphics race is a console thing that Sony/MS started
grim
Read my post you dumb Black person I said nothing of the sort. have a nice day.
i said the exact opposite thing you moronic troglodyte but go back to sucking sony/ms' wiener
>zoomie calling other people zoomers because he wasn't there and takes rando ass screenshots thinking his shit means anything
>also didn't even read the fricking posts just massed replied like the dimwitted troglodyte he is
>all the posts say "literally yes" that it's MS/Sony fault that people care about graphics
zoomers forget that graphics is a PC thing and people who actually care about graphics don't play on consoles because they have inferior graphics
Graphics is a PC thing, but it isn't only graphics that matter in PCworld, it also performance. Consoles never actually got that second part and blindly followed the graphics whre train without the other parts to it and that's why consolegays are generally graphicsprostitutes.
>but it isn't only graphics that matter in PCworld
no one said that though. the point is that liking graphics has nothing to do with sony or MS
>>all the posts say "literally yes" that it's MS/Sony fault that people care about graphics
try reading first
i know this is hard for you
try not saying moronic things and then backtracking
Read my post you dumb Black person.
>Yes it literally is
nothing you typed after this matters because you already went full moron in the first sentence. it is not in any way sony or MS fault that people like graphics. it's like blaming pornhub that people like naked women
>Actively admits he didn't read my post
glad you've conceded to your moronation, i wish you well with it
>does not argue or refute the fact that he went full moron in the first sentence and is completely wrong
later homo
>he didnt read shit
>mass-replying zoomer thinks he knows anything about the history of the industry
truly grim
>mass-replying
>4 posts
what
The graphics obsession has been a thing since before Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo even entered the market.
Unironically yes. Playstation has been graphics whoring since the ps1, and fricking FF7 started that god damn trend.
Yes it literally is. Graphics stopped being a (sane) selling point ages ago, you aren't making massive leaps in fidelity like you used to.
Compare 3rd gen to 4th, or hell literally every console gap up until 7th gen. 5th to 6th gen was the last massive jump, sure a ps3 game looks better than a ps2 game but it's nowhere near as much as a ps2 game looks compared to a ps1 game.
Grafix is an easy way to sell a game to moronic normalgays though so they tripled down on that and haven't let up on the gas pedal since, and now they're reaping what they sowed, and for what, slightly better water textures? Flying spit? Shrinking horse testicles?
This is what Sony has been training people to care about since the PS1 at least. LOOK AT THE SHINY GRAPHICS, LOOK SHINIER GRAPHICS, GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS. WE SPENT MILLIONS MARKETING THESE GRAPHICS, WHO CARES ABOUT GAMEPLAY, LOOK AT THE POLYGONS AND BUMP MAPS AND RAY TRACING.
Those shiny graphics propped up by huge marketing budgets have gotten so expensive that it's become Sony's downfall. A Greek playwright couldn't have written a better ending for that story.
Honestly I genuinely think Sony simply assumed they could graphics prostitute infinitely, so they figured more money goes in, prettier shit comes out, and more people buy their crap. They've actually been really fricking consistent at this and have literally always been aiming for movie game shit forever.
At a certain point there are no people left to cater to. Their audience is already as big as it can get, taking the shitty economy, down-spiraling birthrates (more births = more potential consumers) and the simple fact that not every living person likes video games into account. Anyone with common sense could have seen this coming.
Oh it absolutely wasn't started by Sony, but it was definitely perfected by them. The marketing campaign for the PS1 was huge but boiled down to one simple thing: shiny graphics and/or FMVs. They've been training their fanbase to only care about graphics since day 1.
>They've been training their fanbase to only care about graphics since day 1
>catering to what people like = training them to like it
Common sense can only take you so far in modern society. You also need to remember most companies as a rule are run but straight up sociopaths and psychopaths. The rule is if you cut down enough competition you will be carried by your niche and that's what they aimed for and that's why multiple consoles have died to sonyshit. Their issue would be seen by common sense but they don't live in a world of common sense, so they can't see the iceberg their ship is going towards they are too busy watching their competitors crash and sink first.
Sony was pretty much doomed to eventual collapse once ingame graphics became better than prerendered cutscenes they made everyone bloat their CDs with.
i mean....
blizzard proved this wrong. their actual movie looked like complete shit next to their trailers
>muh VA
That's only a problem with Japanese VA. Western VAs are either the same five people who always get hired or literal who youtubers. Now what
said is what really starts upping the cost, especially since every fricking game ever now needs some Hollywood actors for some fricking reason.
>meme flu over
>Increased the consoles price by 50bucks 2 years in
>no games
>it doesn't sell anymore
shocker
Based doggo giving her her first PS5 game to play.
>mobile """""""games"""""""
U first worldies always forget one important thing. On the tv it plays the news or the sports match. Most people who play games/access the the internet, it is now cheaper to only have a phone and never need a console or the pc. So the phone is the most important console right now
Piss5 is literally the wiiu of snoy. Obviously they want to sweep that failure under the rag and start anew
Actually it's not even wiiu, wiiu at least had some games unlike piss 5 which has a whopping 0 with 0 more to come. Fricking vita was better than that lmao
>no major titles
>we'll still release ff7 remake 2, until dawn, stellar blade, etc
so translation of this is "no normalgay moviegames like soi of war and capeshit until 3/31/2025"
sounds good to me. just make that infinite.
>so translation of this is "no normalgay moviegames like soi of war and capeshit until 3/31/2025"
Bro what do you think FF7Rebirth is? And I say this as a massive Remake fan that has Rebirth preordered.
You're delusional if you think rebirth and dad of boy are even in the same dimension.
Rebirth is absolutely a normalgay movie game like soi of war and the Spider-Man games.
It's done by a JP developer so it's their own spin on the formula, but it's absolutely without a doubt still that same walk-n-talk shimmy around 3rd person cinematic experience.
Again, delusional.
You tell yourself whatever you need to if it helps you sleep better at night.
>people ragged on the n64 for its lack of games
>still has more worthwhile exclusives than the ps5 or xbox series
depressing
Dreamcast only lasted 3 years and had more games and exclusives.
The nogames64 was better than the nogamesstation5
Yes, it was. At least the N64 had industry-defining games that are still talked about to this day. The PS5 has... a Demon Souls remake, FF7 Rebirth, and Capeshit. What an embarassment.
Not only that but the exclusive were groundshattering and still server as fundation for todays 3d videogames.
but seriously, I bought a ps4 pro once it got a discount and had 15, FIFTEEN EXCLUSIVE games I wanted to play... most of them are on Steam except Bloodborn, lmao
>gamepass flopped
>AAA is crashing
>hacks being fired all over the place
Gaming is healing
lets be honest here. The only good current gen game coming out is Dragon's Dogma 2.
so no good games
grim
>Xbox has no games
>Media and all their friends dragging the brand through the dirt, everyone shitting on them.
>Sony has no games
>This is fine
It's tiring.
Check Sal Romano white-knighting Sony in the comments of his website: https://www.gematsu.com/2024/02/sony-interactive-entertainment-will-not-release-any-new-major-existing-franchise-titles-before-march-31-2025
>Salt Cuckmano screaming "OUT OF CONTEXT. OUT OF CONTEXT" on Gematsu and ResetEra
kek. The news broke him.
Like I said, it;s okay when one company does it but not the other.
pathetic
>xbox got 4 big AAA first party games releasing this year
>uhm those don't count and ps has f-foamstars!
>all this rumor milling fud
Not a coincidence.
>>xbox got 4 big AAA first party games releasing this year
which ones i'm genuinely curious
honestly xbox having a deal with palworld seems like the best thing that's happened to them in a while
Palworld is another good hit yeah but I mean th 4 first party games they showed in their developer direct. Hellblade 2(once a exclusive darling of the ps4), Indiana Jones, Awowed and uhh oh it was just 3 "AAA" games. Teh 4th is a new grand strategy.
Wait this game never came out? I thought it came out years ago.
Avowed looks like it could possibly be good and an attempt at an indiana jones game is novel at the least.
Cuckbox has no games, troon
>Bald Dave melty
Probably getting the PS6 within 2 years
PS5 will cap out at 80 million
Very interesting when the PS4 lasted 7 years
They already said nothing before 2027, so more like 3 years before ps6
modern AAA games are worse than gatchas
>Port all your games to PC
>Wonder why console sales plummet
I've been saying this shit since day 1. The second normies find out PC gets the same Playstation games, their hardware sales will plummet. Enjoy losing the 30% sale revenue from 3rd party software sales bybreleasing them on your platform and having to give up 30% of your own IP's profits to Steam, morons.
Im glad console dies there is no reason anymore for consoles
Last bastion of physical ownership, and every game seems to come packaged with root kit DMR. Simply ice to have a device to play games on that you don't need to worry about that shit.
>Guys, cut all the exclusive games
>Port all our exclusive games to PC
>Gives players no reason to buy our consoles at all
>What do you mean our sales didn't meet the goal?
Fricking hell, what is wrong with these fricktards?
How are they in such a high position that allow them to make moronic positions like this?
that's what's happening to xbox lmao
That's the funny thing.
They already saw how Xbox killed themselves into irrelevancy, and they just follow their footstep?
yeah, sure you get short term profits with the ported games, but we all know how the story of the golden goose ends.
>we all know how the story of the golden goose ends
"that's competition, son", Gabe says while ordering two more yachts
>yeah, sure you get short term profits with the ported games
That's the entire point, they chase after short term gains over long term sustainability.
>golden goose
They don't care because odds are once short term gains are as high as they can go and things are about to take a downward spiral, they simply bail out with their golden parachutes to the next company to start the same thing with leaving whatever dumb frick is next in line holding the dead goose.
>"Look at how many golden eggs the company got while I was in charge and how they stopped when I left!"
They'll tell prospective employers who will hire them to wring as many golden eggs out of their geese as possible.
>"But you were the one who killed the goose and made it stop laying golden eggs."
a reasonable person might point out, but they don't care because as soon as the geese are laid out and dead they'll simply frick off to the next flock.
>FF7 rebirth, will sell mediocrely like FF16
>Rise of Ronin, nobody will care about when DD2 releases the same day
>Stellar Blade, great ass but it's just discount Nier
>aside from that, it's all gonna be GaaS also available on PC
Damn
Who is this nobody?
A guy from Wall Street Journal who reports on videogames. OP could've posted Sony's actual investor report this info is taken from but he had to use a second-hand account from twitter instead because he can't stop sucking wiener.
>Late stage of life
>No games
The Snoy life
dear AAA industry: maybe don't release $80, broken, GAAS-infested grifter games. Then people can go back to liking vidya again?
Who cares, there are enough good games to last you a lifetime already.
You think I'm defending Sony? The info is all accurate, there was just no reason to make it a twitter screencap thread when there's a direct source available.
>when there's a direct source available.
Show it t
It's bad reading no matter what source you chose anyway. Only a 5.5% margin of profit on a record revenue quarter is immediate alarm bells for any business and even if you posted the President's full statement he's still talking about "Streamlining" the business (AKA Layoffs that we knew about from the Insomniac leak. Which includes studio closures) and also shows from the Insomniac leak that they know their games are too expensive to make and they need to cut costs on top of the previous reports that their live service push was already faltering. Add in that now the PS5 has been downgraded to only match the PS4 in sales instead of surpassing it and shareholders are going to flip because Sony have essentially said there is a cap on growth in the Playstation division.
Jim Ryan left a fricking incredible mess that's probably going to take years for Sony to unfrick.
Isn't the ps5 still behind even the ps3 in terms of total sales, and they're already talking about it's "latter stage of life"?
Good. Frick Sony. Frick Xbox. If you want to game, buy a PC, a steam deck, or emulate actually decent games on your personal goodgoy tracking device.
PC is too expensive and uncomfortable, deck sucks, emulation sucks, nintendo games suck. I still prefer consoles, the best balance.
b-but eric said the PS5 was going to outsell the Switch before 2025!
Holy kek I bet the Sony higher ups are seething at the israelites in California for over spending on AAA slop, the PS5 is way more expensive to produce than the OS4 so they probably expected at least 1.5 times the sales of PS4. Hopefully this convinces Sony to cut off SIE and just focus on games made in Japan, Korea, China.
Honestly, the suits in Japan are responsible for this situation. and honestly, without PlayStation, Sony would have gone bankrupt long ago.
But I fully expect that Apple or Amazon will make an offer to Sony this year to sell the PlayStation brand.
why would apple or amazon want that shit
pretty sure they are going to close 2 studios too
media molecule
and one of their new GaaS studios
The rumor going around after the Insomniac leak was vast sweeping layoffs at their current studios and the most likely shutdowns being Media Molecule and Bend.
Which Imsonniac leak?
>its latter stage of life cycle
this feels like walking down the park and seeing an old bald fatfrick only to realize the guy is 20 yo
like you ask yourself "what the frick went wrong with his life?"
Seems like Sonybros and Xbots both lost...
APOLOGIZE.
>the latter stage of its life cycle
>has not gotten even a single good game
>zero (0) releases planned for at least the next year
>one of the shittiest adm ugliest console designs ever
Insane. This thing should be one of the biggest fricking flops of all time.
>Sony set targets during covid spending
>covid spending is now over
>morons on Ganker think failing to meet sales targets means the company is struggling.
>the company is struggling.
They are tho. 5.5% operating margin on record revenue is atrocious for the Playstation Unit and the lowest since the PS3. They aren't making money on that split and outspending themselves. Spider-Man 2 only just made it's money back on 10 million units based on the Insomniac leak numbers. And with barely any first party this year they will be making less money in the next few quarters that the margin will shrink even further. There's problems in SIE that they have to fix
Sony is investing most of their profit back into playstation right now, they're not making big splash acquisitions but they''ve been acquring multiple companies and studios steadily the last couple of years. The first party sales are a non factor because Sony has never been reliant on first party game sales. People forget, or in the case of Zoomers, just don't know, that Playstation revolves around third party sales. Sony didn't even start seriously investing into their first party until the PS3.
>Still a ridiculously low margin even with third party sales never mind the vast majority of third party sales last quarter were Microsoft
>Need to have first party make better money because they feel they are vulnerable now that Microsoft bought Activision and the majority of regulators across the world told them off when they complained (Hell even Lina Khan and the FTC turned on them recently)
>Live service initiative while having a good start with Helldivers 2 still has two games already cancelled and reports that there's more cancelations to come
Nah, things are looking disastrous for Sony right now. Especially as the majority of regulators around the globe told them "You defined yourself as the market monopoly and make business moves to cement yourself as the monopoly. Why should we block anything Microsoft does?"
>"First party shouldn't be the money maker!"
Funny how that works out plenty for Nintendo and not for Sony.
That court case was fricking wonderful, sony admitting no one liked their garbage and one of the judges saying "Nintendo just makes games that people like, have you tried that?"
>Funny how that works out plenty for Nintendo and not for Sony
it works for nintendo because nintendo has a fanbase of shit eaters with no standards. when sony makes a turd it's rejected, when nintendo makes a turd it makes bank
Oink Oink, Eric
>when sony makes a turd it's rejected
but they've been shoving horizon everywhere for years?
>majority of third party sales were microsoft
Holy dishonesty Batman! That's only by virtue of Microsoft closing on ABK in October, their software sales are utter shit otherwise.
>Need to have first party to make money
They never said this at all, Ryan even said in court that they use money from third party games to fund the first party projects. I.e The first party projects only exist becuase of the third party sales.
>muh regulators
Yeah and now MS is going third party, so much for the hope you gays had of MS crushing Sony.
Jim Ryan also said the first party sales make no money in comparison to the third party sales and all reports we have from Sony is that they are pivoting to live service games because those first party games are too costly to make and make so little money.
Sony will go third party in your lifetime
BUNGIE acquisition is eating into those margins. By next FY it will ease.
>two more Qs!!!
I guess ps5 wasn't a beast huh.
More people are building AMD PCs instead because that's literally what consoles are. You can build a PS5 Pro right now using the same Ryzen and Radeon arch it will use.
>pc-gays spamming catalog seething over the PS5
>port-begging for Rebirth and Stellar Blade
lmfao
Apparently you can't play games on a console if they aren't first party. Even though we say they're all bad anyway. moronic.
>overspend for holidays
>still didn't even meet their own goal
Hahaha and the best part is that the console sales don't even matter because no one is buying games on ps5.
>"Yeah so basically whoever lead PlayStation is moronic and doesn't know how to run a business"
They just confirm that first party is no longer sustainable. Sony has to port more games to other platforms.
>Sony will go third party in your lifetime
I am not surprised. Of course, I will get used to it. These snoyggers will have to cope it.
Xbox troony cope thread before Thursday.
>Bald Dave coping after Sony has another shit quarter and the President is about to slash the division
Kek only cope Snoys have these days is Xbox doing even worse
Another great day to be a tendie pc chad
>FritBlack person wiping his lips eagerly
>Bald Dave having a melty because Sony is going third party
>not a SINGLE exclusive game
>Already in "its latter stage of life cycle"
lol
lmao, even
to be completely fair, it's a Roflmao situation.
Now that Snoy is finished, we can finally enjoy the progressive inclusive riches Phil and Satya have prepared for us.
PS5 and Series X both launched during a huge pandemic and subsequent loss of disposable income by a huge percentage of the population. This meant very low initial sales, which translated to publishers refusing to make games exclusive to the new gen, which further disincentivized buying a new console.
They simply can't recover from that failure to launch.
Everything sold more during COVID.
>PS5 and Series X both launched during a huge pandemic and subsequent loss of disposable income by a huge percentage of the population.
This is the exact opposite of what happened. Everyone got free money and EVERYTHING in games sold ridiculously more during that period. A failure to make a sale in the absolute perfect conditions for it is the best proof possible.
If anything Xbox might actually be ahead of the curve by moving away from the console war
>If anything Xbox might actually be ahead of the curve by moving away from the console war
gee if only someone thought of that before
No anon stop. The Wii is a console for casuals and non-gamers. REAL gamers liked the 360 and the PS3, which were the REAL and TRUE next gen consoles. Get it together.
>PS5 entering "its latter stage of life cycle"
I played 3 hours of genshin on my iphone se. the age of the television is over
>xbox and ps struggling while nintendo is booming
They are trying to fix a system that's clearly not broken. They think exclusives are a thing of the past but they aren't. The only people that bought the PS5 and the Series X are the normies and poorgays that are too dumb / poor to get a PC and just want to play their sports games and COD. Real gamers are on their PCs and Switches.
>Real gamers are on their PCs and Switches.
lmao
Exclusives are a thing of the past because Sony and MS exclusives were never good at any point. Most Niᥒteᥒd𐐬 exclusives are trash too while I'm at it. There are no system moving multiplats today and it's only gonna get worse with the ~~*culture*~~ being brewed, simple as.
Exclusives are a thing of the past because journos and children with no disposable income whined about them loudly enough, for long enough, until greedy shareholders got dollar signs in their eyes.
Multiplatform development has been terrible for the industry because, as they're no longer restricted by platform, those same shareholders now expect their audience to be every human being on Earth. That's why every AAA title now looks the same, plays the same and is designed by committee.
Sony movieshit hit peak blandness during PS3, you're utterly delusional.
>Most PS5 games keep releasing on PS4, some even on fricking Switch
Maybe they should've gone for a weaker but cheaper console. No point if the devs aren't even using all the juice anyway
Why is this a surprise?
All games nowadays with few exceptions have the same ugly characters with the same hairdos, they go out of their way to insult the established characters, they look worse than last gen games, and they preach to you constantly about ESG and other crap.
Why would a normal person pay $500 for this?
>mobile will kill consoles
Oh for gods sake it's 2013 again
In 2013 you actually had good console games that didn't constantly preach about ebil white men while everyone is a huge ugly fat black with that shitty hairdo
Dont care. Console gaming is a bigger cancer on the industry than mobile gaming. Despite the 14+ years of doomposting mobile games and their practices havent successfully penetrated any other gaming market
>PS5 is entering "its latter stage of life cycle"
but it barely has any fricking video games???
>PS5 in later stage of life
>The only games that are exclusive and a reason to pick the console up are a PS3 remake and 10 hour capeshit
Bros I don't feel so good...
Don't be surprised when Sony and Microsoft agree to pay Rockstar a shitload of money to keep GTA 6 a console exclusive
I will be, because MS and SIE literally can't afford it.
Not even if they combine funds together?
Unless Sony and Microsoft offer literal billions its will never happen. Rockstar has their hands on arguably the biggest current video game IP and they're not gonna shackle it to 2 systems
microsoft spent billions on blizzard, they can drop a few on rockstar
You are wrong sony made 2 billion dollars in pc port alone in 2022 they know how much money is in pc market and know all that money will jump ship to ps5 if they pay for exclusivity. Cry harder pc port beggar
None of the big publishers like the gaben tax they just have to offer T2 a bigger cut of the pie hell they could even negotiate some deal for "GTA online hours played" since paid online is a goldmine for Sony/MS.
Volvo takes a 30% cut which is standard in the industry.
During the Apple vs Epic trial, it was also revealed that Epic gave Sony a higher cut than the usual 30%.
>30% cut which is standard in the industry.
It absolutely is not the standard unless you think apples mobile store of all things is what you measure videogames on.
30-40% brick and mortar stores
30% on psn
30% on xbox store
30% on steam (sliding scale of 30%-15% though)
15% on epic (sliding scale of 15%-5% though)
30% apple store
30% google play store
Yes, it's industry standard.
30% is actually low compared to some other market.
Rockstar won't release it since they fear someone getting free money from Mods and by extension not buying Shark cards
The only real gaming console left is the Switch and that has been true since at least 2020.
PS3 and PS4 were 7 years long because Sony could do that, and could afford to, and could afford for their next gens (ps4 and ps5) to have cross platform titles because there was no threat to sales.
The switch 2 represents a bit of an existential threat to Sony because of the possibility that any PS5 game could potentially run on the switch 2 with the creative use of DLSS. To them this means the remainder of the PS5's lifespan and the early year or two of the PS6 may see most third parties releasing nearly every game on switch 2, so Sony is trying to end this gen as soon as possible with Xbox soon out of the picture.
I'd expect a PS6 by September 2026 at the latest
They are both massive fricking idiots for releasing their exclusive games on PC. Why buy a console when you can be a Steamlet and play both PS and Xbox exclusives. It's unfair and they have nobody else to blame but themselves.
>"The Switch isn't 9th Gen"
>therefore, PS5 and Xbox managed to kill themselves without competition from anywhere else
and the switch sold more than both combined...
>what was 9th gen like?
>two companies made a lot of acquisitions and proceeded to double suicide shortly after
They were moving this way since the rise of early phone games like Angry Birds
The new divide in vidya will be PC and Nintendo on one side and all these other losers on the other trying to turn the ideas PC and Nintendo come up with into slot machines
>Xbox is likely going to start putting more games on PS5
>Sony has expressed interest in going multi plat for more and more games
I see this as an absolute victory for everyone involved, are we finally moving past the evil that is exclusives?
>this is the gen where either Blue box or Green box dies they said
>in the end both die
Expectations™ were indeed Subverted™.
>peak of the PS5's lifecycle was when scalpers bought them in bulk during corona
top kek
xbox lost what?
>hardware sales down
>revenue down
>no big games until March 2025
It's snoyver.
>hardware sale down
Hardware sales are up YoY, they simply revised the forecast because of a lofty goal.
>lived long enough to see the death of the plastic box wars
Finally. Next gen being the last time we need to deal with this garbage is great.