>Yakuza 0 is the only good game in the series!
Why? What does it do so much better than all the other entries?
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>Yakuza 0 is the only good game in the series!
>Yakuza 0 is the only good game in the series!
Why? What does it do so much better than all the other entries?
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It's the Nu-Yakuza "fans" first Yakuza game. It's their first, so it's their best.
most coherent plot without any hugely moronic twists. it has it's nonsense but relative to the other entries it's tame. memorable boss fights. best music.
i started with the originals and think 0 is the best
>best music
comes nowhere close to 5 but it is good, kys 0gay.
i find myself relistening to 0s more than 5s but 5s has a couple of great tracks I agree
>It's their first, so it's their best
0gays are cool now, 7gays who started with the first non-kiryu game because it was da latest and greatest and complained about difficulty when it's probably relegated to the final battle are the real subhumans
You fricking moron, most Yakuza oldgays also agree that 0 is the best in the series. The reason for it is solely that it has the best characters, best flow of story AND the best story.
0 is middling at best, 0gay. Die.
Who are you quoting?
He's quoting some homosexual aka OP
Baby's first title, if someone says it was their first game they played you should immediately disregard their opinions on the franchise
this is dumb. so no one can have an opinion on it unless they didn't start with yakuza 0?
Go ahead and play them in whatever order you want but I'm not gonna give a shit about your take on the series unless you have enough respect to play them in the order they were intended
ive played 0, kiwami 1 & 2 and 3. none of the ones i've played come close to 0. i don't see the others being better. and just because i started with 0 does not mean my opinion is invalidated
bravo dumby, here's your progress so far
>2nd last game built on the Kiwami Engine and the culmination of 10 years of studio knowledge
>A botched remake of the 1st game that fricks up that can't decide between the progression system of 1 or 0 and makes them both shit while also ruining Majima's character in 1
>The worst game in the franchise that can't even be considered a side grade to the original, complete with poorly recreated parts of the original game, awful early Dragon Engine combat and one of the worst pieces of side content in the franchise
>The 3rd Mainline title and only their 2nd game made for the PS3
lmao 3 games in and it doesn't get better. ive never heard of yakuza 4, 5 or 6 being better. so what ive gotta wait till 7 until it gets good again? just admit yakuza 0 is the best game and there's a reason it made the series popular. cope harder
'disregard their opinions on the franchise' because they didn't own a Goystation. Ok, I started with it because Kiwami 1 and 2 were designed to be played afterwards, not before, simple as
So, you started with 0 like I told you to. Good boy.
You don't even need a PlayStation at this point moron. Emulation is free and easy to do, there's no excuse not to start at the beginning
It's pretty easy to separate a genuine fan from a bandwagoner. Some people just don't discover things until later in life, I know I would have grown up a huge Yakuza fan if I bought Shenmue on the Dreamcast because I would have wanted more comfy life sim stuff with great crime drama being a Italian mafia gay
There was so much shit on the PS2
Anyone who started with 7 though can quite literally be a real fan, as starting with 0 at least understands and wants to know the backstory of the real protagonist and experience the real gameplay of the series which ain't fricking turn-based. LAD is basically a spinoff for me, i'm looking forward to what Nagoshi makes with his new studio, screw that beef bowl eatin' chigyu wannabe reddit mascot
False. Yakuza 3 is just as good
I feel like people only like Yakuza 3 because they feel sorry for it
Sure but Yakuza 3 is just slightly better
idk how you can put K2 and 6 about the Judgment titles but you should absolutely play Binary Domain
I think I will. The trailer looked interesting.
What makes 6 so divisive? Seems like it's always at either at the top or the bottom but rarely anywhere between the extremes.
Pretty big changes from the rest of the series. Same deal with 7.
Runs like garbage on PS4 even after all the patches and a Pro or PS5 is the only way to get it to run reasonably.
Combat feels floatier and less smooth compared to the older games, particularly 0 and K1 which came right before it. It feels like a massive step back because it's all physics and limb based now even though their goal was to make it feel heftier.
You have to pretty much not upgrade Kiryu at all because an Attack stat over 150 means you start killing main story bosses in like three Heat Actions. Your damage output is absurdly high in 6.
Combat speed is abysmally slow. A tier 3 attack speed Kiryu in 6 is equivalent to a tier 1 attack speed Kiryu in K2. The only game where a character is slower is Judgment where Yagami moves like he's in mud thanks to the flourishes and going back to 6 after Judgment feels like you become a speed demon.
Heat was changed to an orb system which caused unintended consequences because two punches earn you an orb which is a Heat Action which is basically an instant kill on any enemy and 1/3rd of a boss' health.
Ultimate Heat can activate off of one orb and is an instant-win button on anyone that isn't Amon. It gives you more damage, super armor, lets you pick up heavy items like in 5, and lets you just mash.
Grabs one-shot.
Worst of all, it introduced Bounce Blocking which plagued the DE brawlers until Lost Judgment. All it does is an enemy randomly, with no way to prepare for it, blocks your attack. This block stuns you for about a second as you recoil backwards, and the AI is programmed to immediately go for an attack on you in addition to other enemies attacking you because the queue system from older games was lessened or removed, I could never tell. Also on top of that, it makes combat feedback extremely awful because you get control taken away from you for about a second through no fault of your own as you helplessly watch your character recoil back no matter if you're holding L1 or mashing X to dodge.
Forgot to mention this but bosses also got massively nerfed in the HP department. They decided on a single HP system for bosses but Amon is the only one with a bar that could be considered "reasonable". Even the final boss melts because he has basically no health at all.
A lot of people also find the Secret of Onomichi an underwhelming twist because they don't know Japanese history or why it's important, and while the big bad explains why it's important it's still not the big detail it needs to make it feel as imposing as it is. Then there's Haruka going full moron which in particular massively pissed the JP fanbase off because she slept with the first guy she met.
i love how more than half of the overall skill tree is locked behind the absolute nothingburgers of the business minigames. i don't mind locking the legend styles behind it, but i don't want to sit through boring ass diner dash gameplay just so i don't bonk off of walls with slugger (at the third level of heat)
dragon engine dodges are also pretty piss until you start upgrading them (except for crane in lj) right? it's been awhile since i bothered with 6 and k2, but i remember the default dodges there being putrid dogshit until you invested enough into them
Until you get double/triple Quickstep they're horrible, yeah.
Yeah he has a piss poor dodge to start, but when you upgrade his evasion stat he dashes farther and farther. In k2 dash distance was simplified into a few skills instead of a stat, the stat felt better though since you can gradually see Kiryu's quickstep go from like 3 inches to several feet.
This goes for anyone but you gotta be a tard to not appreciate what they did with 6.
I will say I reckon the rogues gallery of 6 was one of my favorites in the series, just for the tone of the fight Hirose is one of my favorite bosses in the series.
I get that and I was definitely being hyperbolic to a degree. That being said I am just so fricking jaded with the 'fans' in the series at this point it's exhausting. I think I've only personally met 2 people who got into the series in the post-0 boom who actually stuck past the first couple of games they played (only 1 of them even bothered to go back and play the originals even though I've offered to lend them my copies). My own experience of experiencing all the adjustments and improvements the team made with every installment was also just a special feeling that I feel gets tarnished if you just start from 0.
>Kiwami in S
>0 in A
>Kurohyou in B
>4 in C
Masterfully crafted bait, impressive
Man I'm playing 3 right now and it is definitely not better than any of them. Frick the chase sequences and how every boss blocks 99.99999% of your attacks and counters with moves that have full armor and stun you.
Wish they refined the AI a bit, the combat in 3 actually provides difficulty but you're essentially trying to beeline to anything breaking blocks.
In 6 (since it's the last game I played and can remember) the AI will just wienerblock every single combo
3, 0, Ishin OG are all good. The rest are trash though I agree. I personally liked 5 and 6 but can agree with someone that says they suck cause they just go full moron in the last half.
It is the only good game if you are a newbie who started with it and too moronic to understand the basic b***h narratives across the games. So it is redditcore for the non-fan. The gameplay side of things is pretty good though, even if it isn't as good as say 1,2, and 4.
yakuzatards trying to gatekeep their copypasted movie games franchise will never not be hilarious.
this franchise was better when it wasn't popular with secondaries
it's be dead a long time without them. and before you say it, no that wouldn't be a good thing
the only good yakuzers are those that have kamuro hills as a long battle in it
bro that's my screenshot wtf
Yeah it's pretty cool when people repost your images on this imageboard. Best of luck to you newbie.
Disgusting fat b***h.
I love how people forget that it's a snooze-fest until Chapter 10.
kson gets mogged by all those other ladies
Most varied controls, the brawler isn't a chore like in some of the games.
The 1989 esthetics fits better. Best music too.
Simple, by greatly innovating on the Brawling mechanics, before completely throwing the baby out with the bathwater
Thank you Nagoshi
why does kiryu have that gay haircut in the new yakuza game
It's a mystery for the ages.
It's his depressed Punished Kiryu look. He wants to die most of the game. He slicks it back again when he regains his will to live.
And this gay.
After playing through 5 again, I will say that I've come to appreciate Shinada's fighting style more. Thr first time I played, I kept using the basic Light > Light > Light > Heavy combo into My Meteor Tackle and kept getting frustrated that everyone blocked it so I then started to use the Sturdy weapons almost exclusively (which didn't help either). Now using his Bounding Throw and utilizing weapon Heat actions more, he's a lot more fun, though enemies being able to break out of grabs more easily later on (especially bosses) is still pretty annoying.
Hokuto Ga Gotoku is peak of series
Buy now before it skyrockets
You have been warned
lost paradise on steam when
>Introduces style switching
>Totally reworked cabaret clubs, turning one of worst minigames into one of the best
>Amazing story
>Actually made Y1 better by making Nishiki likeable (he was butthole even at beginning of y1)
>Best Long Battles
>Playable Majima
All those morons who shame ppl for liking 0 when y7 gays exist need to heat action out of the window
>Introduces style switching
No.
>Best Long Battles
No, that's Ishin.
Y4 introduced different styles with different characters but to my knowledge in y0 you can actually switch styles during fight.
And I admit, I didn't play Ishin or its remake yet so I don't know, last one I played is Lost Judgment.
Kenzan was the first game to have styles. You had Unarmed, 1kat, 2kat, and 2H.
Ishin was the second game to have styles. You had Unarmed, Sword, Wild Dance, and Pistol.
If you want to get pedantic, Black Panthers 1 and 2 also had styles but they could only be chosen prior to battle, not in it.
Didn't know that, that's cool.
Is Kenzan any good?
You know all the issues 3 had? They're worse in Kenzan. It also has the most missables in the series and even if it was 100% in English you are required to guide game it if you want to do any side content. It's got great areas, a really enjoyable story with interesting characters, some great substories, and my personal favorite secret boss fight, but the vast majority of people would put it near the bottom of the series.
Unarmed and 2H are completely unusable and unviable styles while 1kat goes out the window of usability the instant you get combo string extensions for 2kat.
Those are just tendies mad at y0 popularity here during botw
botw came out in 2017 while yakuza 0 was released in english in 2019
I've yet to come across an antagonist as good as kuze too
>half the shit written is just wrong out of pure ignorance
written like a true 0gay
why does yakuza 0 make you seethe so much? this gatekeeping behaviour is pathetic
because you're stupid and don't know what the frick you're talking about
cringe
What's your favorite RGG game? Let's hear it
Currently it would be these 3, though Judgment/LJ would have to be a toss-up since the Combat in LJ is a big improvement but the story in the first game is better
Respectable
I agree on JE/LJ toss-up aswell
If the PS5 port of Judgment included the changes they made to LJ's combat it would be my favorite game in the series
It's still a very good game just not one of my favorites which is what the anon asked
there's no good reason 0 shouldn't be here but as a contrarian you must be different. good thing i can think for myself
Based physical media chad
Physical media is king. Down with digital (Except for preservation). It's been nothing but a detriment to gaming.
Is yakuza dead souls any good?
Worst game in the series without a doubt. Only play it if you're a massive fan and can put up with a lot of the issues it has. If you can put up with the issues it's decent fun provided you know how to make the gameplay work. Also, make sure you emulate it if you can. PS3 runs at mid 10s with drops whereas RPCS3 can make it a stable 30.
I'll probably pick it up eventually but 1 and 2 on PS2 comes first as well as BP2 and PS5 copies of LJ and 8.
>no wii u version of 1 & 2 hd
So close, but yet so far.
I didn't know Moose was a Snoopychad
style switching
No it didn't.
reworked cabaret clubs, turning one of worst minigames into one of the best
It's still shit and boring, at least with real estate you can frick off and do something actually fun.
story
Yeah.
made Y1 better by making Nishiki likeable (he was butthole even at beginning of y1)
Debatable.
>>Best Long Battles
Lol
Majima
And he sucks.
>y7 gays
7 is barely a Yakuza game, so I don't consider those Yakuza fans at all
these face are photo
doubt is 0
The 80s are fun
no haruka
simple as
no mobile phones
80s theme
simple as
If you play the rest of the games you will realize it is the collection of the games before and it almost makes it a good game. On top of it the cutscenes are way way higher quality than the other games. The characters are very memorable. The two characters are distinct but not feel like a chore like in the other games.
>it is the collection of the games before
lmao that's literally the yakuza series
Yeah but most of the games barely improve on the previous one to be able to recycle as much as they can. I regularly see (even in this thread) people are jealous of Y0 starters because they didn't suffer through a decade of minuscule improvements before they got a functioning system. It is so weird this series could sustain itself.
>play Shenmue in 2000
>walk to a door
>open it
>door is an actual 3D model and the character opens it realistically, walks in and shuts behind themselves
>play Yakuza 0 in 2015
>walk to the "door"
>it is just a 2D texture
>"open" it (press button)
>teleport inside
>It is so weird this series could sustain itself
Not really. Carrying over so much stuff from each game and having quick dev turnover helps to keep the budget low, meaning each game doesn't need to sell that much to warrant the series getting more sequels.
Shenmue was impressive for the time, sure, but that also resulted in an extremely high budget for that era at $47 million, putting it at around the same cost as titles like FF7, FF9, Half-Life 2, and even Halo 2.
Shenmue 1 was considered a huge bomb after selling 1.2 million copies while something like Judgment was considered a massive success after selling only 1 million copies.
Well yes, Shenmue was a vanity project but also something what was supposed to be a system seller. Still, the door issue 15 years (!) later shows how this series - like many Japanese games - fallen behind the basics. Yakuza is exceptional in a way most copy pasted games lead to fatigue. They churned these out like there is no tomorrow yet people didn't get bored of them. Though I heard something like 0 saving the franchise because they were on a downhill.
The door "issue" is a non issue unless you're an autistic moron.
The door issue is was just one thing, there are numerous other "PS2 style" design decisions low level JP developers tend to do. The same god damn "press light attack a few times then finish it with heavy, btw everything else breaks the flow of the battle" fighting system for two decades etc.
>I heard something like 0 saving the franchise because they were on a downhill.
Only in the west, I’m pretty sure Japanese sales have been stable across the series.
First week sales sin Japan seem to have gone down with each release over time.
4 - 381,324
5 - 360,123
0 - 244,673
6 - 211,455
Could be that it's changed since 7 but VGChartz doesn't have data for after 2018.
>VGChartz
Please tell me you have another source for sales.
VGChartz should never ever be used for sales figures. They have regularly been shown to completely make stuff up. Picture related I believe is Media Create sales (So physical only) up to HGG's first two weeks of sales. It's also not 100% accurate because 5 apparently sold a million copies or something like that, we had a discussion about this a week or two ago that unearthed that number by Nagoshi I think it was.
Kid named Yakuza Kiwami: https://youtu.be/Nz_Pf_VzSvs?si=0V3073wMKQnHKxkb
>0 is a masterpiece but the rest of the series sucks
they're all the same game
>but actually 0's story is the best
its story has the same story beats as all the others and unfolds in exactly the same way
>0 has the best characters
the same characters as the other games
>but the minigames and combat are the best
the same
the games are all the SAME, if you think 0 is good but think the other games are bad you are an enormous moron
>novel and unique setting (smartphone era Tokyo is honestly quite soulless)
>the yakuza as an organization is big and important rather than the shambling corpse its been for several games now
>great music
>good gameplay
>introduced the fighting styles
>story basically focused from start to finish
>no Haruka
>low tier in terms of outrageous plot twists
>people like it and it makes joyless boomers piss and shit their pants
>novel and unique setting (smartphone era Tokyo is honestly quite soulless)
the original 5 mainline games had flip phones not smartphones
>the yakuza as an organization is big and important rather than the shambling corpse its been for several games now
yeah if you're playing after 4 sure
>great music
most is remixes from the original 2 games
>good gameplay
LMAO
>introduced the fighting styles
kenzan did that which was discussed in this very thread
>story basically focused from start to finish
nope
>no Haruka
homosexual
>low tier in terms of outrageous plot twists
"I can see"
>people like it and it makes joyless boomers piss and shit their pants
people like it because of reddit and youtubers
boomer chads like it because it was catering to them
Was the remake of Ishin any good? I almost forgot it came out and only remember them adding v-tubers and shit too it.
Not particularly.
Lots of bad balance changes, unfitting character swaps, and the usual Unreal Engine stutters.
Got to the final chapter and haven't finished it yet, it's alright.
The whole kiwami thing didn't work out this time, frick knows if this happened in the original ishin but the bossfights eventually get dominated by these super duper moves that'll just instakill. Solution? Just move around them
You'd think that'd be fun but you also can use ridiculous moves so the bossfights if you ask me just get worse over time.
Grind is also ridiculous, if you didn't make it in time to get arthritis from the chicken betting game you'll never be swamped in cash.
I started with kiwami 1 and now I'm at 4
I will play 0 after 5
No idgaf about what you think, I'm not playing a prequel before the first 1
3 is currently the one I liked the most
Why didn't you start with 1 instead of Kiwami 1 then?
I unironically though 1 and 2 were massive like all the others, in therms of lenght/content, and tbh I haven't researched the serie that much until later only to discover that 1 & 2 has completely different pacing and are quite shorter, so I just started with K1
I do plan to play the PS2 now that I now that, but those will have to wait I guess