What are you talking about? The ones in Hawaii can be fought twice (low lvl and high lvl), but after that them and the JP crowned bosses don't respawn until PA.
I don't know why they bothered with Kamurocho at all. Kiryu isn't even supposed to go there as previous games explain and there's basically nothing to do there when he does.
The final fight should've taken place in Tojo HQ or somewhere else.
Yeah, but part of Kiryu's agreement with the Daidoji is he never sets foot in Kamurocho again. The Daidoji handler at the end even mentions that that Kiryu going there to fight Ebina is a one time exception, except you're allowed to go there whenever you want at all other points of the story before that. It's completely at odds with the story.
Kiryu also finds tons of stuff that reminds him of places and people from Kamurocho in Yokohama for the flashback stuff.
The Daidoji are total jobbers in 8. They can't do shit against Kiryu, hell they don't even know he's meeting up with people from his past until Haruka.
It's really at odds with how ruthlessly omnipotent they are in Gaiden.
They're shown to be omnipotent Illuminati types in 6 too. Gaiden felt more in line with their initial depiction. If they're such jobbers like they were in 8, Kiryu wouldn't have any problem taking them down and going on with his life.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't even remember them being in 6. I don't remember 6 at all except for Kiryu has a baby for some reason and lol giant ship
3 months ago
Anonymous
They were mentioned in 6, dunno how involved they were. I vaguely remember them at the end of the game. The yakuza in 6 were hiding the Yamato mk.2 Mr. Daidoji built, and Mr. Daidoji bade the young CEO guy to step up to the plate and become a boss by getting rid of Kiryu, but I don't think you actively fought agents or anything.
Not true, they knew Date was setting things up to help kiryu meet people from his past. They just let it happen because kiryu helped them out in the past and hes dying. They only got involved with haruka because kiryu was going way beyond the other interactions. Haruka is the sole reason he faked his death after all. Daidoji are still jobbers tho
>Haruka is the sole reason he faked his death after all
At that point the entire world knows Kiryu is still alive, but he can't meet his daughter one last time? It makes it seem like the Daidoji exist for the sole reason of spiting Kiryu.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Kiryu’s autism is a character flaw he has had since Y1, he says in-game he doesn’t want to meet most of the people from his past again because he “knows” he will die again soon anyway. Its why at the end of the game when he gets new motivation to live, he allows haruka to visit him during his treatment. Which was the goal of the whole bucket list/life link, to overcome his tism.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, but the Daidoji agent tells Date that if Kiryu had spoken to Haruka rather than just going near her, he'd be at the bottom of Tokyo Bay rather than just getting beat up.
Kiryu didn't speak to her because he felt he was going to die soon, but the Daidoji were ready to kill Date if Kiryu'd met with Haruka. They didn't seem to care that he met with anybody else.
3 months ago
Anonymous
i dont understand why kiryu allowed haruka to see him when he finally decided to get chemo; wouldn't that be throwing date's life away cuz daidoji would murder him?
or am i just forgetting a segment where kiryu beats up all of daidoji and says 'stop your shit you c**ts'
3 months ago
Anonymous
You have to assume that the life links conclude way before the end of chp 12 when Kiryu was filmed in front of the old Tojo HQ. They couldn't have him stay dead after that so the Haruka thing doesn't matter anymore, plus you have the other friendlier daidoji guy saying they're cool now in the Finale.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>or am i just forgetting a segment where kiryu beats up all of daidoji and says 'stop your shit you c**ts'
No, in fact Kiryu says he'll renew the agreement and will never talk to anybody, not even Date ever again after beating up the Daidoji agents beating on Date.
Then sometime in the 1 month time skip he fixes everything and regains his name and the Daidoji are never mentioned again.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It’s bad writing that they will have to solve next game
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's the problem that always arises when you make something important optional. You can just skip all of Date's stuff if you want, and so it has no baring on the rest of the game and is completely at odds with stuff happening because it could all be done in chapter 6 if you wanted to grind Kiryu's stats out all at once.
It should've been part of Kiryu's main story rather than some side plot.
3 months ago
Moose
>because it could all be done in chapter 6 if you wanted to grind Kiryu's stats out all at once.
Nah, it can't. Chapter 8 only lets you do Life Link 1 which is the Taichi one that acts as a tutorial. You have to reach chapter 10 in order to do 2-8 because LL2 is where Date and Kiryu discuss Tatara's video. 9 and 10 are locked behind chapter 12. They clearly have limits as to when these took place and technically Kiryu did all of them before the end of chapter 12.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's the problem that always arises when you make something important optional. You can just skip all of Date's stuff if you want, and so it has no baring on the rest of the game and is completely at odds with stuff happening because it could all be done in chapter 6 if you wanted to grind Kiryu's stats out all at once.
It should've been part of Kiryu's main story rather than some side plot.
Why Daidoji is chill with Kiryu meeting Haruka again is some thing I can fill in myself based on how Kiryu's identity got exposed. The part I'm more confused about is how or when Eji got exposed and became hunted by both the Yakuza and the public. He was last seen taunting Ichiban with Lani then the next time we see him, he's already in his JP apartment watching the Bryce stream.
3 months ago
Moose
>he says in-game he doesn’t want to meet most of the people from his past again because he “knows” he will die again soon anyway
Which directly contradicts what he's writing after each Life Link. He's effectively going "Seeing these people REALLY MAKES ME WANT TO LIVE HOLY CRAP LIFE IS AWESOME I DON'T WANT TO DIE" every time you read one of them but in dialogue he's a defeatist. It makes no sense.
>They just let it happen because kiryu helped them out in the past and hes dying. >A cold, heartless glowie organization suddenly gives a frick about their buttslave because he did his job and has cancer
???????????????????????????
3 months ago
Anonymous
Kiryu calls them out on that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
This is Yokoyama's favorite trick, anon. >Writes stupid shit >Makes in-story quips about how the plot is stupid >But makes no attempt to fix story
He did this multiple times if you look out for it
They were jobbers in Gaiden. Kiryu stomps them into the ground in the first chapter without really trying. They can only get the upper hand by pulling an Iwami and doing b***h ass moves like threatening Haruka.
Threats or not, they are able to exert complete control over Kiryu in Gaiden, while in 8 Kiryu just kind of does whatever he wants even blatantly violating their agreement without so much as a peep.
3 months ago
Moose
Not to mention in 8 they only start lifting a finger after everything has gone to Hell in a handbasket when basically everything has been unearthed about Kiryu. They're completely incompetent in 8.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Threats or not, they are able to exert complete control over Kiryu in Gaiden, while in 8 Kiryu just kind of does whatever he wants even blatantly violating their agreement without so much as a peep.
Reminder that Gaiden got made after 8 was already a done deal - they probably realized how much of a joke the daidoji seem to be and attempted to fix that with Gaiden.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's kind of like how they brought Dwight back and tried to make him still seem like a threat after he pissed himself. You can't really retroactively fix the Daidoji's jobber status.
3 months ago
Anonymous
bringing Dwight back was just them going "we paid for Danny Trejo we can't just have him be in the first half"
3 months ago
Anonymous
Also they didn't kill him, and Danny Trejo has to have a wicked death if he's playing a villain.
3 months ago
Anonymous
That and for a secret organization that's not even supposed to be known they're very comfortable allowing total strangers to stay with them and spill all their secrets to them.
3 months ago
Moose
>Immediately let Kiryu call himself Kiryu to everyone who is barely even close to him. >Almost no one uses his "Taichi Suzuki" alias to the point that even in the finale the Chief is telling Saeko to mind her words. >They're willing to tell Ichiban, a random American, and someone related to people really high up in Japanese society the inner workings of their organization which isn't even supposed to exist to the general public and was effectively a mythical organization Seonhee barely even knew of in 7. >Don't even vet anyone who enters their hideout which completely defeats the purpose of it being a hideout which leads to pure moronation from Hanawa and his crew. >But then it turns out Hanawa also did somewhat vet them and sent the Daidoji a report praising Ichiban's group right before he got shot. >Said report can also completely ruin Ichiban and his friends' lives in the future because it is essentially Hanawa telling all the higher ups Ichiban is a useful idiot, his friends are a bunch of useful idiots, and it would be super easy to take advantage of their morality and kindness to help the Daidoji do whatever they need if they just position stuff correctly. >Then you have the guy in the finale just blab about who funds them, who supports them, and how benevolent they are to the entire crew for no real reason when we had no idea up until that point. >Then you have the agents in the Life Links who make zero sense in their actions and have no real reason why they should be doing what they're doing because it genuinely doesn't matter anymore, but they're also super anal about rules and Kiryu's "promise" when the "promise" is already completely in shambles and doesn't really matter anymore.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Then you have the agents in the Life Links who make zero sense in their actions and have no real reason why they should be doing what they're doing because it genuinely doesn't matter anymore, but they're also super anal about rules and Kiryu's "promise" when the "promise" is already completely in shambles and doesn't really matter anymore.
I think the life links were designed thinking the player would get to all of them before the vtuber reveals Kiryu is alive, which is moronic enough that it should be patched
3 months ago
Anonymous
They should've been part of the main story so that they came up in the right spots. Kiryu's part in Japan starts out with his bucket list, but then the main bits are optional? Makes no sense.
>Immediately let Kiryu call himself Kiryu to everyone who is barely even close to him. >Almost no one uses his "Taichi Suzuki" alias to the point that even in the finale the Chief is telling Saeko to mind her words. >They're willing to tell Ichiban, a random American, and someone related to people really high up in Japanese society the inner workings of their organization which isn't even supposed to exist to the general public and was effectively a mythical organization Seonhee barely even knew of in 7. >Don't even vet anyone who enters their hideout which completely defeats the purpose of it being a hideout which leads to pure moronation from Hanawa and his crew. >But then it turns out Hanawa also did somewhat vet them and sent the Daidoji a report praising Ichiban's group right before he got shot. >Said report can also completely ruin Ichiban and his friends' lives in the future because it is essentially Hanawa telling all the higher ups Ichiban is a useful idiot, his friends are a bunch of useful idiots, and it would be super easy to take advantage of their morality and kindness to help the Daidoji do whatever they need if they just position stuff correctly. >Then you have the guy in the finale just blab about who funds them, who supports them, and how benevolent they are to the entire crew for no real reason when we had no idea up until that point. >Then you have the agents in the Life Links who make zero sense in their actions and have no real reason why they should be doing what they're doing because it genuinely doesn't matter anymore, but they're also super anal about rules and Kiryu's "promise" when the "promise" is already completely in shambles and doesn't really matter anymore.
> in the finale the Chief is telling Saeko to mind her words
It's like they recorded all the lines for the game, and then realized "oh wait, Kiryu is supposed to be using an alias.... frick it, ship it!" and so they put that little nod in just to be like, "he's totally still incognito!"
3 months ago
Anonymous
that sounds so moronic since the life links are locked off by chapters as well.
3 months ago
Moose
They weren't, it's very explicit that they knew it would happen because Life Link 2 is directly talking about it and Life Link I think 5 or 6 has a character outright saying they saw the video. Life Links 2 to 8 also cannot be done until chapter 10 which is after the video happened.
3 months ago
Anonymous
3 months ago
Anonymous
Nope, taxi company shachou mentions the video. So it explicitly takes place after that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
They should unironically retcon most of 8
It’s not like anything substantial happens
Ichiban doesn’t even grow so who gives a frick
People complain about 3, but it added more than fricking 8 did
3 months ago
Anonymous
people who complained about 3 were always moronic, nothing new there.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>They should unironically retcon most of 8
Probably will, just like how they retconned all of 3 except Kiryu starting an orphanage, although there's barely anything in 8 to even retcon
It's simple: two parallel realities.
The proof?
In Gaiden Kiryu mentions having been a host in the past (Yakuza 2), but in Infinite Wealth, Kiryu meets with Yuki and reminisces about his time managing a hostess club (Kiwami 2).
These are two distinct timelines, 2 and Kiwami 2. In the 2 timeline, the Daidoji are competent and in the Kiwami 2 timeline they're incompetent.
Everybody's doing multiverses these days, 9 will be about the two parallel realities crossing over.
I'm finally seeing more JP fangirls voice their complaints about 8.
I hope 9 ends up being a lot better, assuming that the devs look into the feedback about 8 and Gaiden.
Following and/or discovering them on Tw*tter is no more "stalking" nor "befriending" them than one can be "stalking" or "befriending" anon by looking for threads relevant to my taste on Ganker. Many people share their game opinions online in public spaces, to be viewed by whoever is interested.
You don't spawn them, you awaken them like you would with other sujimans. The difference is that Muderous Heat sujimans require 2/3/5 to awaken instead of 1/2/3
Other than Sodachi (from story), they are all 3rd tier evolutions of common sujimans you can get from gacha, so if you're targeting specific ones you can try spamming specific type gacha.
new game+ and the extra dungeon don't fix the shitshow of the story. They don't add anything to it at all except for one "obligatory beach filler episode" scene to really drive home that 8 is a 100+ hour filler game that doesn't push anything forward.
The ending feels rushed and disjointed as frick, and the most common theory seems to be that the devs fricked up the game's original script/concept for the sake of the dual protagonist system.
>for the sake of the dual protagonist system
Same thing that happened with 4, 5, and even 0 to a degree.
They need to stop doing this shit and go back to a single protagonist per game.
in general multi protag games are the most fun, but it tends to come at the cost of the narrative.
I'm fine with either but if I have to pick one or the other I'd say single narrative works best.
Yakuza is like the definition of movie game. 8 has like 80 hours of cutscenes.
They're extremely story heavy. If you don't like story in games, you wouldn't be playing this series.
to me every yakuza game is fun, so i can enjoy any entry based on its gameplay, so why not prioritize story if i'll always be satisfied with the other half of a game?
The problem with 5, 0, and 8 are that they basically have these parallel stories that barely intersect and then they try too hard to pull them together.
4 did a better job by having all the characters be in the same city dealing with the same problem, but they still didn't know what to do for the ending.
I wish Sega would just sell an actual 1:1 replica of Ichi's Hawaiian shirt. They have another red Hawaiian shirt in the works (lottery prize, iirc) but it's not the same as the in-game shirt.
Yeah, only gaming shirts I'd want to wear are ones with subtle elements that normies wont ever tell apart.
homies putting Ichiban's cropped head front and center, who the frick designed this?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>who the frick designed this?
It's for zoomers by zoomers.
Anti-Social Club is one of those scam designer brands like Supreme who sell their items for hundreds of dollars a pop right? A shame honestly, i actually really like some of these like pic related
3 months ago
Anonymous
Pink is pretty gay bro. I'd wear this one if anything.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Pink is pretty gay bro. I'd wear this one if anything.
These would be alright if the brand didn't vomit their name all over it.
Narasaki was highly disrespectful to Kiryu first. Did you miss Narasaki mouthing off about how Kiryu's brain might've dulled? Kiryu just told off a no-name grunt who behaving like a pompous thug in front of a former Chairman.
From the beginning, Narasaki wasn't showing him any respect. He didn't bow or speak in a polite manner. When Kiryu told him he doesn't need a guide, he should have lowered his head and accepted it humbly.
Kiryu is a prick to most yakuza types when he first meets them. It's like his default opinion that they're a thug because they most likely are. They have to prove to him otherwise and Narasaki didn't.
It's a power move, like when he told Ebina to get the frick out of the Chairman's spot. This and acting like a prick to other yakuzas might seem dickish, but the main thing yakuza's respect is strength and so Kiryu does these little power moves.
Kiryu doesn't do it to impress them though, he does it because he genuinely respects the social hierarchy that's supposed to exist within the yakuza. Narasaki and Ebina both act with blatant disregard (disrespect) for the foundational etiquette of the organization while they're basically squatting in Tojo HQ. It's no wonder at all that Kiryu is irritated by them.
So Ichiban is 46 in IW. In Yakuza 9 he'll be 50 if this four year game dev pattern continues. At what point will Ichiban be too old to run around cities having schizo battles with random punks, drunks, and yakuza?
At some point RGG stopped caring and just shrank adults down to call them kids. The children in Gaiden are probably the worst, literally just the usual adult NPCs but tiny.
6's graphics and style are on a whole different level of care and quality that they're completely unable to match in recent games for some reason.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>for some reason
The reason is the PS4, the main platform for these games, cannot run Yakuza 6 at more than 20fps while later Dragon Engine games run at a stable 30.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It is time tome to drop PS4 now
3 months ago
Anonymous
No there's no reason to drop PS4, they just need to allow higher resolutions textures, models, hair, and lighting on PS5 and PC. Or they can run the PS4 version at 50% scale like they did with Yakuza 0 and Kiwami on PS3.
Plenty of other games do this, why does Yakuza need to be brought down by the PS4?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Because more people still use the PS4 now than used the PS3 back then.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Still doesn't mean that everyone else should deal with an inferior version of the games just because they're using an 11 year old console that was weak when it launched.
3 months ago
Anonymous
PS4 is the only thing that ensures 60 fps on 9th gen consoles and good performance on PC.
>Oh frick we forgot to resolve that bit with Ching Ding's son >It's cool just throw in a 2 minute scene in the last chapter where they find him
It's super obvious they had plans for Wong Tou and completely scrapped his shit mid-development.
Most of Kiryu's parts in Yokohama are also rushed "text with a picture" collectibles since they put 95% of the budget in Hawaii.
It’s extra shitty because it felt like they were setting up Wong Tou to be a party member. His son gets kidnapped and all of his wealth and power gets ripped out from under him as it’s revealed that much of the Ganzhe are Palekana spies. He’s a natural addition to the party given the circumstances, and it would have been a nice point in the story to get a new party member, especially compared to Han’s last minute inclusion.
But no, he gets shanked in the leg, sits in the safe house for a few chapters while contributing maybe 3 lines of dialogue, and then dies unceremoniously alongside Hanawa. They couldn’t even be bothered to make him a support like Yamai during the hotel escape sequence, he just sits in the background during each fight.
>Wong becomes more thankful to the party after they haul his ass back to the Daidoji safehouse while Yamai starts a Maui >gets shot and dies a chapter or so later >doesn't get to join the party and do crazy Chinese gymrat shit to save his son
I feel bad for him.
I'm really surprised they kept in Yamai starting a forest fire after the Maui inferno.
Shit really sucks, too. I stayed in Lahaina a couple years ago, and that was probably my favorite spot I ever vacationed in.
Frick if I know. I wasn't in control of the radio in the rental.
Also, Honolulu blows. You've got some neat historical stuff like Diamond Head, but when it comes to the day to day stuff, you might as well be in Miami. It's just a regular fricking city. You're better off going to the other islands.
It boosts the next skill not any attack, and you don't really need it when you can just use the same skill twice. Maybe it'll be useful if you're fishing backstabs with Joongi's skills but can't get into position during the turn.
I disagree. >Male Characters (Physical)
Glory Awaits
Relentless Dragon's Dance
Fire Arrow
Trippy Flipper Ripper or Tiger Palm Strike
Wild Sweep
Essence of Showboating >Male Characters (Magic)
Malodorous Stench (Nanba)
Wonder wienertail
Rose Stinger
Poisoned Cloudburst
Dynamite Fever
Jellyfish Juice
Essence of Rose Typhoon (For the charm + burn since Champagne Wave sucks by comparison) >Female Characters
Subsitution Jutsu
Money Sucker
Noisy Racket
Scum Scraper
Bubble Bale
Kumu Hula Corkscrew or Blossoming 'Uli'uli depending on if you want grapple or attribute knockback.
Essence of Natural Healing
Female characters (If they're not in Night Queen or Tennis Ace) nearly always have higher MAG over ATK. It makes no sense to carry over a physical skill unless you're specifically sitting in NQ or TA which you likely won't since Housekeeper and Geodancer are just so amazing. Plus, you'll very likely be wearing a Rainbow Hat since it's the best hat in the game outside of the Wizard Hat and it gives +20 MAG.
It boosts the next skill not any attack, and you don't really need it when you can just use the same skill twice. Maybe it'll be useful if you're fishing backstabs with Joongi's skills but can't get into position during the turn.
>and you don't really need it when you can just use the same skill twice.
It's a 2.5x damage buff to make what you're doing not seem as appealing.
Any tips on awakening Kiryu? I'm on chapter 12 and level 7 on all 3 styles but I need to be level 9 to unlock the other 2 life links.
I've already done almost all the remembering things so is my only option now to go through the completion list?
>Will they even use Kamurocho again?
They'll continue to tack it on even if it has zero plot relevance just because they can and fans will scream "how can a Yakuza game not have Kamurocho?!" like they did with Gaiden. Ending at the Millennium Tower in 8 already felt so forced.
I prefered the previous installment, IW has the better gameplaty but story wise the previous one was way better.
Even the spin off like a dragon gaiden was way better what the frick happened?
The last chapters with Kiryu was horrible and boring to go through.
I can't believe they took out the additions from 4. I always feel like I should be able to walk into the underground mall in the later games and am disappointed I can't.
Here's a question for TRUE YAKUZA HISTORIANS: what game did the big rooftop garden areas with green grass first show up in? There's one in the theater district, and one near the millennium tower, right?
6, it's when they finally let you up onto the non-rooftop part of the rooftop via the elevators since that's where you do one of the bomb missions. Dead Souls had a floor lower than the rooftop but not the one you fight Nishiki or Tendo in that was like a giant hall with pillars.
Not the big fish smack?
The stun's okay but the damage is subpar compared to Tiger Palm Strike. I regularly get like 1600-1800 damage on TPS while on Ahi Aloha I get like 1200-1400. If you want knockback it's fine I guess.
Here's a question for TRUE YAKUZA HISTORIANS: what game did the big rooftop garden areas with green grass first show up in? There's one in the theater district, and one near the millennium tower, right?
The one in Theatre Square was added in 4.
The Millennium Tower one was added in 6.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'd forgotten how shit the graphics in 3 and 4 were. I feel like they've aged worse than the PS2 games even.
3 months ago
Anonymous
PS2 games in general tend to look better than early PS3 games. It was a rough transition to more realistic graphics while PS2 game feel arcade-y still.
5/Ishin/0/Kiwami still look very good even by today's standards.
It was probably because of how underutilized Kamurocho is in general in Y5. There's no point in having the rooftop or underground areas if you have no real use for them. No story events, no substories.
I really miss them, even if they don't add much to the game, it adds density, and that's what's special about rgg games until Isezaki Ijincho and Hawaii, I miss vertical depth.
Other than Kiryu-Chan I don’t think RGG wants to use legacy characters as party members. I think we’ll get one new guy, Akame because Chitose probably won’t come back and they need a lady, and Sawashiro to bring his story with Ichiban full circle.
Why expect a return of Akame when we could have an entirely new girl instead?
I also couldn't give less of a shit about Sawashiro at this point, and he'd drag down any party dynamic. Thankfully, I don't think I have to worry about him ever being a party member.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>he'd drag down any party dynamic.
I think it’d be funny to have a guy who doesn’t buy into Ichiban’s shit
The only new party member people seem to want at this point is Yamai, which isn't gonna happen.
3 months ago
Anonymous
If LAD9 brings us back to Hawaii (and it will for the reason I said here
We already know next game will have Hawaii again because they can't just give up a location they spent that much time designing.
) then that's the perfect excuse for him to join. The question is will he fit in the group dynamic?
3 months ago
Anonymous
He really should have joined for the late game at least. It would complete JRPG trope of boss character joining the party
3 months ago
Anonymous
If LAD9 brings us back to Hawaii (and it will for the reason I said here [...]) then that's the perfect excuse for him to join. The question is will he fit in the group dynamic?
I know I’m playing with fire considering how much they bungled the dual protags in 8, but I’d rather Yamai have his own party rather than being a part of Ichiban’s. It’s already established that Yamai has a habit of taking strays under his wing, and Yamai’s tough love would contrast nicely with Ichiban’s power of friendship.
3 months ago
Anonymous
NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE A HECKIN' MURDERER AS A PLAYABLE CHARACTER IN THIS SERIES ABOUT FORMER CRIMINALS SEEKING REDEMPTION
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yamai's contrast with Ichiban is exactly why I'd like him to be in Ichiban's party though. Yamai is an old-school yakuza and Ichi hasn't had the chance to bond with someone like that (Kiryu aside, who doesn't count because he's too special). I honestly think Ichiban would understand and appreciate the "tough love" and other questionable parts of Yamai's behavior. They're from the same yakuza era, and both missed their chance to experience the Dragon of Dojima years firsthand.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I think the main problem with having him in the party, and the reason I hope they don't do it, is they would either have to kill his character by making him a scrimblo bimblo going along with the party's silly shenanigans, or he would just awkwardly be there making everything tense.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>to kill his character by making him a scrimblo bimblo going along with the party's silly shenanigans, or he would just awkwardly be there making everything tense.
I'm not 100% sure what a scrimblo bimblo is, but Yamai is already clearly tolerant of shenanigans. Did you see his boys having a birthday party in the middle of the raid on their hideout? Did you miss that he lets strong-willed women walk all over him? He let Tomi off the hook super easy; he protected Kiryu, Akane, and Lani; he just acts tsundere when Ichiban is overly casual with him. I can already imagine that his character is the "surprisingly" easygoing type, whose natural charisma gives his underlings confidence in him, in spite of his quirks.
Once Ichiban shares his read on Yamai with the rest of the party--that's he's actually an upstanding man and even a bit of a softie--no one will be tense around him. I think it would be harder for the writers to try to portray him as a convincing antagonist at this point than it would be to have him team up with Ichiban.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Did you see his boys having a birthday party in the middle of the raid on their hideout?
One of the best parts of the game. But I mean that despite not being as bad as he first seems, he's a hardened criminal compared to ichiban, and it would make for a weird party dynamic (kind of like zhao and joongi, tbh, where these actual murderers are palling around with this shonen protagonist). I just don't see him acting totally unguarded with Ichiban being in character.
3 months ago
Anonymous
If Yamai is supposed to be Ichiban's Majima, I want to find out that he's actually a lot stronger than 8 portrayed him, and want to see him pushing Ichiban to become stronger and give him the battle that he missed his chance to have with The Dragon of Dojima.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Did you see his boys having a birthday party in the middle of the raid on their hideout?
One of the best parts of the game. But I mean that despite not being as bad as he first seems, he's a hardened criminal compared to ichiban, and it would make for a weird party dynamic (kind of like zhao and joongi, tbh, where these actual murderers are palling around with this shonen protagonist). I just don't see him acting totally unguarded with Ichiban being in character.
Also, isn't Yamai's room full of movie posters? This guy would definitely bullshit with the team during the Party Chat where they walk past a movie theater.
Yamai as an ex-yakuza only a few years older than Ichiban would definitely not be weirder for the party dynamic than having Zhao, Joongi, or Seonhee in the group. At the end of the day, despite their titles or whatever criminal shit they've done, they're all "just people" and the series portrays them as such.
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While I don’t think you’re wrong, I’d rather Yamai not be an accessory to Ichiban. He’s too charismatic for that and commands too much presence to be a follower. Let him have his own stuff going on, with his own people, that occasionally intersects with Ichi and his people.
Though honestly I would be happy either way, as long as I get to use Keelhauler to fling people across the map.
3 months ago
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>Yamai is like Luigi in Thousand Year Door and he just shows up from time to time with his own party on a parallel adventure from Ichiban's
3 months ago
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bonus points if you get to fight his party as well
3 months ago
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Extra bonus points if it's like the Yakuza 5 Kiryu vs. Saejima fight and you get to pick which party to control.
3 months ago
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>mogs Ichiban's Hawaii crew
3 months ago
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Can't wait to do the old doctor's drink link. He's definitely seen some shit.
3 months ago
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I'm glad the getaway driver dude wasn't a traitor. He was a real bro.
3 months ago
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All the major characters' faces are so damn moist in this game.
3 months ago
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Makes sense for Hawaii at least.
3 months ago
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Yeah, but Ichiban, Adachi, and Nanba are all moist in Yokohama at the start too. I wanted them all to dab their faces with towels.
3 months ago
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In December of all months. Most games in the Dragon Engine feel like they take place in the summer, especially if it's in Ijincho. Are the trees really that green that time of year in Japan?
3 months ago
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Most of Japan is similar to the American south in climate. The trees definitely have leaves all year round in Yokohama.
Daigo and Saejima would be great to have in the party for Table Talks, Walk&Talks, etc. I'd love to revisit the side of Saejima's character we only saw when he was playable in 4 and 5, and Daigo has never had such an opportunity to just be himself in the mainline series.
that much is obvious, and honestly, seeing the Judgment cast with new clothes for Hawaii would be kino.
the real question is, where is the next mainline game going? You have to remember that every single mainline entry, apart from 4, added a new city.
One of the best games that I have ever played with a really addictive gameplay BUT with one of the shitties stories that I have ever played. 10/10 RGG.
I really can't recommend this series to anyone because of the second hand embarrassment of this writting.
eh where's your mom Ichi, she's back in Hawaii? Did you say goodbye? Eh I don't know I'm busy forgiving this guy who was responsible for the death of like four of my pals lol!
it's crazy how in 7, by the 50 hour mark, I felt done with it. The only thing keeping me going was the story, but it's been completely reversed for 8.
I finished it at 120 hours and still wanted to play it, but that was DESPITE the story. I want to do an NG+ run in the future without skipping a single cutscene and without doing side content, because I feel like I was maybe too stupid to understand it. Or, maybe it's just another case of HACKyama writing
>I finished it at 120 hours and still wanted to play it, but that was DESPITE the story
They really improved the combat. From a bird's eye view it doesn't seem like it changed that much, but it just feels so much more satisfying.
You're definitely not the problem when Eiji disappears from the story after causing multiples deaths and threatening to kill a child at the 3/4 mark, showing zero remorse all the while, and then when he pops up again in the ending Ichi's just like >It's all cool bro, let's hang out once you're out of prison 🙂
I don't remember the name, it's a district in Sapporo that Saejima has as his town. The substories feel mostly halfassed, there's barely anything to do there, you have to leave the area to do his big sidestory, and big chunks of it are gated off because you can only cross the street at crosswalks.
By contast >Kamurocho is Kamurocho >Sotenbori does a lot to expand it >Kineicho makes sure you know everyone in that town by the time you're done there
Isn't Sapporo known for its underground malls? Why did they make the ground level with large crosswalks instead of that?
I don't remember the name, it's a district in Sapporo that Saejima has as his town. The substories feel mostly halfassed, there's barely anything to do there, you have to leave the area to do his big sidestory, and big chunks of it are gated off because you can only cross the street at crosswalks.
By contast >Kamurocho is Kamurocho >Sotenbori does a lot to expand it >Kineicho makes sure you know everyone in that town by the time you're done there
Ok I get Eiji and Ebina's motivations, and I understand that the whole usage of nuclear waste throughout the plot is a metaphor for the yakuza itself. It's something people have to do something about but they don't want to do anything that actually is productive or puts responsibility on themselves so they just want to shove it somewhere and forget about it.
Power. He doesn't care about all the bullshit surrounding the yakuza, he just wants absolute control over his little fiefdom in Hawaii and is willing to kill anyone that could jeapordize that.
didn't he say that he was doing the stuff just to get in with governments so he could hold their dirt and then use it against them? He would become indisposable and from there...do something? He was like 90 years old at that point. Not sure what was going on tbh.
Bryce's just doing the same keikaku he's been doing for decades which is to consolidate undesirables on Nele Island, it's just that he's too old or moronic to understand that doing the same with nuclear waste will never work. Something Ebina already pointed out.
>it's just that he's too old or moronic to understand that doing the same with nuclear waste will never work
Like I said, the nuclear waste is only literal so much as the surface plot is considered, it's basically just one giant metaphor. The reason Ebina said the plan will never work is because he's referring to the yakuza, you can't just shove them somewhere else and expect the problem to go away.
>But what is Bryce's motivation in all of this?
Did you just ignore his entire speech before the fight? He lays everyone out point by point including his motivations and goals. He wants Nele Island for the fact that it gives him leverage and power over all the nations who want to do business with him. He gets off on the fact that people praise him and think he's amazing, and he absolutely loves the control he has over his "flock" and the governments who want to invest in Nele Island. He literally calls himself a god which either Zhao or Ichiban basically insulted him over.
His plans are so simple and straightforward without any foresight that Ebina outright insults him in his own speech.
One of the best games that I have ever played with a really addictive gameplay BUT with one of the shitties stories that I have ever played. 10/10 RGG.
I really can't recommend this series to anyone because of the second hand embarrassment of this writting.
eh where's your mom Ichi, she's back in Hawaii? Did you say goodbye? Eh I don't know I'm busy forgiving this guy who was responsible for the death of like four of my pals lol!
This. I've got over 100 hours in 8 which is more than I've put into any other Yakuza game besides 0, but the writing is the lowest point the series has ever been. I expect crazy plot twists and such, but 8's story is just dumb.
>but the writing is the lowest point the series has ever been
That's still 3. 3 has an extremely barebones plot that relies more on shocking twists than actually having a good narrative.
The funny thing is Wesker is probably the least important part of 3, the primary plot of that game is Kiryu dealing with the fallout of bringing the Tojo to ruin 2 games in a row (tbf, if he hadn't done it in 2, the Koreans would've killed them all). It just fumbles it at every turn and makes you care more about Kiryu's personal relationship with Rikiya than anything in the actual narrative. Like who actually fricking remembers anything about Nanda besides him being a loud fat man that is angry you defeated Nishiki?
>Like who actually fricking remembers anything about Nanda
Kanda getting his head cut off and stuffed in a suitcase was kind of a cool scene as I remember it. Mine was rad.
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Sorry right, I meant Kanda. Had a typo there. Big angry man that likes tickling girls.
I remember Kanda well because he was there to develop Mine as a character more than anything. He actually had a lot of memorable scenes: slapping his men, running naked from Kiryu, having a moron meltie in Mine's office then being dragged off to be killed.
I really wish that 8 gave any one of its villains as much substance as Mine. It's bizarre and awful that Ebina is the acting head of the yakuza in this game and by the end I still felt like "who the frick is guy".
The relationships between all the Okinawa crew was really comfy. Big shitty plot aside, the small things were nice. Not like in 8 where Ichi forgives Chitose like 4 times.
Y3 had strong influence from Kitano's Sonatine, even this guy was a straight rip from a character from that film.
>The relationships between all the Okinawa crew was really comfy. Big shitty plot aside, the small things were nice. Not like in 8 where Ichi forgives Chitose like 4 times.
Agreed 100%. I was surprised that I actually loved all of the orphanage parts and the "boring" parts, and thought Mine was a pretty shit character (looks cool though, I have to admit). I was waiting for his big motivation to be revealed, to finally make his popularity make sense, and then it was "I need to kill this guy because I LOVE HIM SO MUCH MAN" or some shit. Putting that aside, having the villain just infodump their whole character at the very end of the game is terrible.
>but the writing is the lowest point the series has ever been
5 is still the worst for me
>but the writing is the lowest point the series has ever been
That's still 3. 3 has an extremely barebones plot that relies more on shocking twists than actually having a good narrative.
>3 has an extremely barebones plot
which is comfy and works
>5 is still the worst for me
5 is a good overall plot that just has some really dumb moments in it, which is the opposite of how these games usually are.
I disagree, 5's final act works fine. Where it actually drops the ball is specifically Saejima's and Akiyama's segments, because for the former it's a retread of his arc in 4 because they have no goddamn idea of what to do with the character, and in the latter's case he's a hanger-on that exists to service other characters in the plot.
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>I disagree, 5's final act works fine
When the final boss doesn't even know why they are there, that doesn't count as working fine.
my favorite part of 5 is how three of the main characters beat the shit out of the same jumper-wearing scared little manboy for absolutely no fricking reason
5 feels like Yokoyama tried to make his own Avengers setup, but got bored a third of the way through so he made his Nick Fury evil to amuse and surprise himself
Really? It was obvious from the start that the mysterious threatening man who appears in everyone else's lives was in fact the evil mastermind behind everything. Who fricking else could it be?
>I disagree, 5's final act works fine
When the final boss doesn't even know why they are there, that doesn't count as working fine.
I fricking hate how people interpret that line so much. He's saying that from his own fricking perspective, not to make some kind of cheeky meta commentary on the story he's in. He's conflicted between his own desires and the desires his father thrust upon him. I know media literacy became a stupid meme phrase but I swear to god 90% of Yakuza players are utterly incapable of seriously engaging with a text.
Aizawa and rubber bullets are easily the biggest litmus tests as to whether or not someone's opinion on these games' stories should immediately be disregarded. Aizawa is the perfect thematic final boss for 5. He's the antithesis of the YUME they keep pounding into your head all game, a man who achieved everything through nepotism and as a result doesn't really give a damn. But he's not completely cynical and hateful like his father, rather he figures that everything else aside, if he manages to beat the living god Kiryu then people will have no choice to respect him and say he earned it. For as much as people rag on Yakuza 5 for MUH YUME I think people often gloss over the fact that the game does earnestly approach the concept of dreams from some very nuanced angles.
3 months ago
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Nothing Kurosawa does as a fake cop really makes any sense so it's not hard to imagine his fake persona was originally a different character or some such at the concept level. He literally has Baba use a rail gun on Kitakata and then has someone else immediately give him miracle anti sniper first aid, it's nonsense
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>I fricking hate how people interpret that line so much. He's saying that from his own fricking perspective, not to make some kind of cheeky meta commentary on the story he's in.
This whole thing sounds exactly like the ending of 8. The fricking epilogue is about how Ebina___ didn't even knew what he was doing.
3 months ago
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No, you're wrong. I know he's not saying it in a meta sense, but his motivations are too confused to be remotely compelling. "I hate nepotism but I'm going to take power because of my daddy getting rid of all my enemies, but I hate my daddy"
3 months ago
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>"I hate nepotism but I'm going to take power because of my daddy getting rid of all my enemies, but I hate my daddy"
Holy shit you're fricking stupid. No, let me spell out to you what he's saying, >Yeah, I know I didn't earn jack shit to obtain this position, but at the end of the day we yakuza live in a world of strength so as long as I beat you, nothing up to this point matters and they'll have to recognize me as the true inheritor. Nishiki understood that, Ryuji understood that, the only difference is they failed and I won't.
3 months ago
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That still makes no sense because the only reason he had a chance in hell of taking power was because his daddy pulled all the strings for him. He's rebelling against his dad by doing exactly what his dad wanted for him, bravo.
3 months ago
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>He's rebelling against his dad by doing exactly what his dad wanted for him, bravo.
He's not rebelling against his father, he ultimately wants to fulfill his father's wishes (filial piety and all that) but he's conflicted because his father did EVERYTHING for him so all he can think is "what did I accomplish here on my own?" That's why he needs to beat you, need to prove to not just others but himself that when push comes to shove, he can fricking shove. That he can never care about being chairman if it's just handed to him.
3 months ago
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>That he can never care about being chairman if it's just handed to him.
Which it effectively was.
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>nothing up to this point matters and they'll have to recognize me as the true inheritor
And that's why it's so dumb.
Nishiki, Ryuji and everyone else grinded their asses up the chain and this b***h boy took the shortcut.
No you don't get a shot at Kiyru just because of circumstances. There's no redeeming point that makes you go "yeah, I get him and he earned it".
3 months ago
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>No you don't get a shot at Kiyru just because of circumstances.
You do when it's your YUME
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As I said, he's the thematic final boss more than the narrative one. What, did he need a fricking MGSV intro where it says "AIZAWA: THE MAN DENIED A DREAM" for people watching to get it? Realistically whether he beat Kiryu is actually kinda irrelevant, the reason he's the final boss is his father thinks dreams are stupid and worthless while hypocritically sacrificing everything for the dream of leaving it all to his son. He's not just a brute like Ryuji, he has actually thought out the implications of the life he's been given allowed him success but at the same time never let him have any dreams of his own. That's why he says, "I don't even know why I'm here", because he's just been going through the motions his whole life, coasting by on what his dad gave him. He's saying, "I don't know much about dreams, never really getting the chance to have one...but if I beat you, that's gotta mean something."
>That he can never care about being chairman if it's just handed to him.
Which it effectively was.
He ain't chairman yet.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>He ain't chairman yet
Just like the nepo babies who say their daddy only got them a foot in the door, he got his chance for a 1v1 with Kiryu.
3 months ago
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No I mean he's quite literally not chairman yet, no one has yet to recognize him. Also, let's not pretend you actually have to earn the job, the Fifth became Chairman because Kiryu appointed him, the dude worked for the Omi 10 minutes earlier and was actually a super secret Korean but that's the next game
3 months ago
Anonymous
Anyone that says 4 or 5 has the dumbest twists has to go back and play 2.
3 months ago
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nah, 4 wins by a wide margin
5 just have too many, as with everything else in that game
3 months ago
Anonymous
Rubber bullets, in the initial Saejima scene, make a lot of sense and is actually scripted in a clever way. The problem is then there are like 4 more instances in the game of someone getting shot only to go PSYCHE homie, THEM'S BULLETS ARE RUBBER and somehow expected us to fall for it every time because the characters did.
3 months ago
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it only happens one more time, Katsuragi has the 1 non moron moment in his life and wears a bullet proof vest and Akiyama has magic money
3 months ago
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Arai shoots Munakata and in the final Munakata shoots Arai
3 months ago
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Munakata demonstrating the rubberness of the bullets isn't really a shocking le ebin rubber twist
3 months ago
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Nta but the first of the two is definitely a twist, they frame it like Arai killed Munakata only for him to show up later like it's shocking.
3 months ago
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Yeah that's the one time they use it after Saejima. The game has an obsession with shocking gun reveals in general though like Arai killing the guy at the beginning or Arai killing Shibata or Arai shooting Kido. Basically any time Arai is in the vicinity of a gun
3 months ago
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>Basically any time Arai is in the vicinity of a gun
Or Daigo in the series since he's apparently the greatest gunslinger in the west
3 months ago
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It's to make up for him being such a subpar fistfighter among his peers
3 months ago
Anonymous
shinada was just really strong breh
3 months ago
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Hey if I did Shinada's daily exercises I'd be absolutely ripped too
3 months ago
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>somehow expected us to fall for it every time because the characters did.
And what doesn't make sense is they all knew about rubber bullets at that point. Like why would Arai not be able to tell? The guy's a cop and can't fricking tell a rubber bullet from a real one?
3 months ago
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am I supposed to believe Saejima shot 18 men multiple times and didn't notice something is off?
3 months ago
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Being in the heat of the moment, never having used a gun before, and everyone fell over seemingly dead? Yeah.
yen for a coffee that restores all MP? Nice, I’ll take twenty! >140 dollars for a fricking coffee? Get out of here, I don’t care how good it is, I’m never visiting your shop again.
>He doesn't import from Japan on a regular basis to have to mentally convert.
Joking aside, it's more like $12 or $13 since the Yen sucks so much. That's more than a diner charges in most states but in the hoity toity states it's about right.
Yagami has his own party already to match Ichiban's (Kaito, Higashi, Sugiura, Tsukumo, & Tesso would be solid, maybe Mafuyu and Saori too), I want a proper crossover between the two
Aw hell no, two female members is a bad thing and limits gameplay a LOT. At least a third one is needed to balance the numbers a bit more. I’d say… include Amasawa and maybe Itokura in place of Mafuyu.
I wasted 300 million yen on poundmates because I do not want to fight anymore. I'll waste the rest nuking Amons now even if it eats the rest of my money.
>Ever since 5 they keep making people talk about their dreams more and more. >8 had people constantly doing it as well but not to 5's degree.
It's so noticeable now it has to be intentional.
In very specific spots, especially in the designated Japanese neighborhood called “Little Japan”. Can also be heard in a few tourist-y spots, like the mall and the beach.
>That japanese MMA guy that can't act for shit
I'm surprised how hard they pushed him. He has like 5 exclusive substories. He reminds me of that chef with the very punchable face from 5.
>That japanese MMA guy that can't act for shit
I'm surprised how hard they pushed him. He has like 5 exclusive substories. He reminds me of that chef with the very punchable face from 5.
is it real that this Asakura guy quit MMA after being knocked out in a fight not even a week after the release of IW?
Judgment had a very "how do you do fellow kids" vibe.
The bluetooth ear pieces, video calls, drones, etc. It felt like what middle aged men think teenagers do.
Glad they ditched all that in Lost Judgment (except the drones, drone racing's fun).
Earlier today I finished replaying 4.
Within like 10 minutes frame >Kido betrays Katsuragi >Arai betrays Kido >Katsuragi pulls deus ex machina pistol after being set free >Arai betrays Munakata
>Within like 10 minutes frame
I honestly miss this. Yakuza 1-6 (+0 and Gaiden) have very tight main stories. 7 and 8 are so long, but not much happens. They make 5, the longest game prior, seem brief.
JRPGs command 100+ hour play times just to feel sufficient.
Action games are typically ~30 hours.
This makes a ton of sense when you consider the difference in gameplay progression. 7+8 are very well paced for a JRPG.
5 was intentionally supposed to feel fricking huge. Loved it at the time, don't think I'd be able to enjoy the game in the same way now with how my life is though, it's one of those games you need to have a lot of free time for
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>post-release DLC for 8
I don't think they'd announce that. We already knew The Kaito Files was going to happen when LJ came out. They'll probably show off the free DLC though.
>They'll probably show off the free DLC though.
The fricking million sale t-shirts they announced a month ago? lol, imagine doing a press conference just for that.
What classifies a person in the Yakuza universe as a “Sujimon”? You’d think it’s someone who fits the following criteria:
>strong in combat >wild personality >strange appearances
But, you look at someone like Sodachi and his students and it no longer makes any sense. The Professor and Joker being former Sujimon? Yeah, totally can see that. Three ordinary blokes who practiced karate and are pretty horny? I fail to see how that makes them a Sujimon. AND, if you factor in the DLCs, Ichiban’s own friends could be considered Sujimon, even bosses are considered Sujimon. In fact, Ichiban himself was asked if he considered becoming a Sujimon, and his answer was simply that he didn’t have that idea in mind.
Don't take any of the DLC at face value, it's all cheat DLC. If you take DLC at face value then Kiryu from 8 met Kaoru and his past self from 6 was wandering around Dondoko Island while he was also there while he fights side-by-side with himself from a few days later as a Sujimon.
>They'll probably show off the free DLC though.
The fricking million sale t-shirts they announced a month ago? lol, imagine doing a press conference just for that.
>lol, imagine doing a press conference just for that.
Did you forget when they did an entire announcement just for cologne and perfumes?
Well, I didn’t buy the DLC, and Kazuma Kiryu (2016) is right now living in the same house as Sayama in Dondoko, but I digress. Kiryu was considered a “Sujimon” in Yakuza 7, and he becomes a playable Sujimon in 8, but its post-game content and doesn’t really count.
>Kiryu was considered a “Sujimon” in Yakuza 7
Right, I forgot about that one. I wouldn't consider 7's Sujimon the same as 8's though since 8's seem like a completely different beast while 7's was just weird people in society that only the Sujimon Professor and Ichiban could see.
Why is Kiryu working for the daidoji when he could've threatened them to expose their identity and everything that happened in Onomichi, in case they decided to go after his family?
It’s almost over. About 40 hours of cleanup left for the 100%. I hope the Big Swell will at least be a little difficult on Legend unlike the rest of the game.
What a madlad. I'm already running out of steam doing the Big Swell the first time around after polishing off the rest of the optional dungeons. I'm also majorly pissed off because ever since I learned about the rainbow achievement, I've never seen one after a squall.
The RNG currently fricking me is finding lootable toilets with Kiryu, the overworld ones do not respawn the loot and in two entire playthroughs worth of dungeon crawling I only got 9.
Why are you trying to find them from toilets? Go to the top-left of Chinatown and either take the taxi over and over to it then go around the corner, or run back and forth from that corner down Downtown Street and back. The Aloha Links friend who sells stuff sells you 5 poop per ecounter.
It’s not RNG, they respawn after a certain amount of toilets are looted, I think 4 or 5. There’s an easy loop I found in Ijincho: bathroom on the west side of the large park, bathroom where the gambling place is outside Chinatown, and the bathroom that’s in the top middle (along the highway) of the lower half of the map. All three have taxis near them so you can fast travel. Got the 100 shits in like 10 minutes.
lmao get fricked, I don't know what it is about this particular game, but an actual japanese tourist wouldn't take as many pictures as I do, and I accidentally got this achievement within the first ten hours.
just hang out at the beach beating people up. I saw one at the park too if you prefer to go there
Damn. I saw like 4 in my 100ish hours without ever looking for them, I thought the 'trick' to that trophy was that you have to think of taking the picture when it happens.
Sounds like a nice final trophy, though, taking a final picture of the lads before wrapping it up
CreamInstaller on PC.
It's basically post-game locked behind DLC. There are few unvoiced goofy scenes of the whole party after finishing every 5 stages of new dungeon.
Having just fully cleared it 5 minutes ago: Not really unless you want some decent boss fights early on and unvoiced fanservice scenarios that are pretty funny. I got roughly 4ish hours out of it in total. It's the same as the Hawaiian Haunt or the Yokohama Underground but in a medieval and Egyptian mixed theme while each floor also feels a bit shorter. There's also a lot of random empty rooms compared to the other two.
Your enemies are a mix of tier 1 to 3 enemies in groups of 3-5 and the exit of each floor is blocked by 2-3 miniboss enemies and 2-3 normal enemies. The bosses every five floors are the same deal as the FMT or TFMT did with reusing story bosses except they're way more damaging than they were in either of those. The downside is you can't save on the boss floor and once you get to like Sector 3 you're so overpowered that the bosses get like one turn to your six of 1600+ damage. It's ridiculous. The Game Master got a whopping two moves off before I killed him.
Your first clear rewards are simply stuff Kamulop gives you (War God Talisman being the best one) or crafting mats for the ultimate weapons. Suitcase rewards are job EXP items from both regions, health items, and stat boosters. I think the safe rewards are based off of the last HH/YU Sector you visited since I got only YU Sector 2 items six times. The store rewards are job level up books and crafting mats but the only things really worth it are the level up books because the amount of points you get even clearing an entire Sector is only like 4500.
The main purpose of it is to level and prepare you for NG+ since each fight gives you around 40k-500k EXP and JP and to also raise bond levels because you get like half a bar per fight, sometimes even a whole level up even at 80+. I entered Sector 3 with a level 1 Linebacker on Han and by the time I finished floor 15 he was level 50 in it with just one EXP item. Sector 5's basic enemies start by giving you 300k EXP.
It's objectively better than the True Legendary Hero's Bat. Put a Seal of Binding on it and now you blind basically everyone with almost all of your attacks, and since like 80% of enemies don't use magic that's way more useful than doing more electric damage when the enemy is on the ground.
It's not the egestas I'm after, it's the "loot 15 toilets" from the completion list.
Wait, are you serious? Why not go to Hawaii then? The mall has four toilets, you have two more on the beach, you have one or two near the train station in Yokohama, you have the ones in both bars, and I'm pretty sure there's a few others I'm drawing a blank on.
I'm pretty sure it won't count unless Kiryu is the leader just like the "kill 100 enemies as X job" ones don't count even if he is in your party when you're in Hawaii.
Kiryu got his name back already. Highly likely the daidoji let him go after the scandal resulted into their party getting the majority back. Everyone knows Kiryu is alive anyway thanks to the vtuber.
The Daidoji rep literally told the crew that Ichiban and friends are now on their radar in addition to the fact that they're run by the People's Liberation Party or whatever it's called which really holds no meaning outside of some stuff in 7. There's no reason to set any of that up, have Shishido and Nishitani III grabbed, and set up Ogikubo's granddaughter unless it's to make them the major villain in 9 so that Kiryu can actually have peace.
Daidoji might come back if they view a chemo-surviving Kiryu as a risk that needs to go away. At the end they probably let him go thinking that he will not survive the cancer and that everything will get sorted out that way but it would make sense for some part of Daidoji to get incredibly nervous at the potential risk that Kiryu spills the beans and reveals all the Daidoji shit to the public. He sacrificed his identity for a reason.
Wouldn't surprise me if RGG9 takes place in Okinawa - atleast partially - with Kiryu trying to find peace only for Daidoji to show up and threatening him and the kids to cut all loose ends. Ichiban even mentioned that he would like to see the kids at some point. That and they could re-cycle a lot of the holiday/beach stuff from Hawaii.
She only decided to switch side at the literal last second and not like she decision made a difference. And all for what? To protect her Vtuber identity? Her sob backstory is even a fricking joke >I grew up rich >But my parents were strict >So I decided to be a streamer >poor me
She's young, and was in a position to make a selfish mistake that not many other people would ever be in. She fricked up and people got killed. The same can be said for the majority of this series' main cast. The only way she can atone for it is by continuing to live and choose to do the right things going forward. Her personality and recent actions have earned her the trust of Ichiban and company to not make a similar mistake again.
There's really no need to be such a homosexual about it.
Here is the thing. She made multiple selfish mistakes. At each step of the game, she had every opportunity to come clean. Even when she saw the seriousness of the entire situation, she knew people were getting murdered and killed. But she still chose to not tell the truth. She only decided to at the literal last minute where it didn't make a difference. And all to protect what? Her identity?
>And all for what? To protect her Vtuber identity?
She'd publicly aired the Fujinomiya's dirty laundry as that vtuber, so she was afraid of being disowned by her family and simultaneously exposed to the world. Although it's unclear due to an across-the-board lack of development for Eiji and his movements, it's also likely that Eiji filled her in on the fact that she's been telling lies that have destroyed the livelihoods of countless people, many of whom are former yakuza that would potentially hunt her down. The game definitely could have done a better job portraying her circumstances as more dangerous than an heiress losing her inheritance, but it's still among the least of this game's writing problems.
No, Eiji did. The only thing we get to explain his extreme de-humanizing hatred of Yakuza is "they set him up to lose his job" in one line that you'll miss if you yawn during an info dump.
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I meant playable ones. If we are talking about all the characters, then yes the villians this time round was really fricking undercooked. Ebina as well.
>Here's this dramatuber that has access to lots of information she really shouldn't have and have been whistleblowing for years >Daidoji somehow didn't immediately dox her
also >Eiji has complete control over the tatara channel, going as far as using an impersonator when Chisato was no longer willing to cooperate >somehow Chisato can still use her account and livestream like nothing happened
is it just me or this doesn't make sense? maybe Eiji forgot to change the password...
That's kind of moronic but I figured the video website account was linked to Chitose's email, so changing the password would be futile. Of course at that point he might as well have demanded access to her email or else he'd expose her identity
nah I think it's the opposite, they wrote Majima like that to give the player the idea that he is capable of love and might desire romance, but hides it under the Mad Dog.
I've played Y5 4.5 times, do they ever even say? I honestly can't even remember if Park is brought up when you fight Majima. I think you do that as Saejima iirc. That whole end part never made much sense and never stuck with me.
Majima's feeling about Park are never really talked about from Majima's lips himself, In general the Majima/Park subplot feels the most tacked on and bloated thing from 5.
When 5 was a brand new game I wasn't even aware Majima was attracted to women, let alone would stick his dick inside one.
>I honestly can't even remember if Park is brought up when you fight Majima
nope
that letter supposedly written by him in the safe is the only instance of majima ever acknowledging her
I started playing these games when 6 came out, and after playing 5, I just thought there was obviously going to be some kind of Y0.5 with Majima's wacky adventures in Sotenbori with Park. but they've moved so far away from that now, I don't think it will ever get mentioned again.
Although, after finishing 8 again, it really seems like Daigo, Saejima, and Majima were trying to say they were coming back into the limelight. That's the biggest hole in 8 for me because idk what it really means. They're going to help Ichiban out with the dissolution or they're going to get the gang back together? We're at an even more strange place with the background clans than at the end of 7.
>I honestly can't even remember if Park is brought up when you fight Majima
nope
that letter supposedly written by him in the safe is the only instance of majima ever acknowledging her
RGG has been very hands off about what characters did in the 90s for the most part. plenty of material to work with if they ever wish to come back to it.
Majima didn't really have too much backstory until 4 introduced saejima and turned him into a more serious character so him having friends (and even being married) aren't that jarring all things considered? It does feel weird if you started with 0 i guess.
>noooooooooo mitsu-chan! i believe in you! you might have done some bad things in the past but i believe you can change! we can get through this together!
>don't worry about those innocent people you poisoned and killed, Ky-chan. After all that, you're still my pal
>Yeah I heard about patriarch Dojima raping that Yumi girl, but I'm glad nobody shot him in an act of revenge, I know our patriarch is a good man underneath it all.
>Mi-Chan, I know you manipulated my daughter into becoming an idol, which spiraled into me moving to another city, away from my friends and under a new identity, and I know this eventually led to my daughter exposing my identity to all of Japan, which also spiraled into me making the people closest to me believe I died for their own sake, but despite all that... I forgive you, Mi-Chan, I forgive you because no matter how much you might have hurt me, I would never turn my back on a true friend, that's how much you mean to me, Mi-Chan
You know seeing all this ichiban posting reminds me of how insane HnK would be with its forgiveness, like people joke about Ichiban forgiving Hitler but Kenshiro fricking forgives Souther of all characters which becomes more bizarre when you realize that Kiryu is basically just Kenshiro but not in a nuclear wasteland.
Whenever I'm looking at Yakuza's silly apology moments I tend to compare it to that exact scene and go "But is this more extreme than forgiving Souther?" And so far it really hasn't fallen under that umbrella just yet. HnK is an amazing series that anyone should read but I can't pretend its perfect. And Yeah It's pretty silly for Ichiban to forgive Eiji considering how underdeveloped he was, but he also wasn't Souther. And it helps that Ichiban is less "everything is alright" and more "You can redeem yourself if you serve time" which is something that the funny ichiban forgiveness meme glosses over.
>Kiryu-san, I know you may want me dead right now, but despite your burning hatred towards me, I forgive you, Kiryu-san, because even IF I do die, my friendship with you will still linger with just as much strength as ever!
>ichi's character development in the next game comes from him trusting an obviously sketchy person, and it results in this person taking advantage of ichi and saeko being killed in the crossfire
>Mi-Chan, I know you manipulated my daughter into becoming an idol, which spiraled into me moving to another city, away from my friends and under a new identity, and I know this eventually led to my daughter exposing my identity to all of Japan, which also spiraled into me making the people closest to me believe I died for their own sake, but despite all that... I forgive you, Mi-Chan, I forgive you because no matter how much you might have hurt me, I would never turn my back on a true friend, that's how much you mean to me, Mi-Chan
>Yeah I heard about patriarch Dojima raping that Yumi girl, but I'm glad nobody shot him in an act of revenge, I know our patriarch is a good man underneath it all.
That ending cut scene for fake cripple boy was God awful.
They didn't even bother putting context behind it. Guess they really wanted to hammer the Ichiban x Jesus comparisons
There was a guy yesterday asking about Hammered Man and I found him in PA at night near Ichiban Confections. It was in the area where the Street Surfer charger is and he was among some Boozer Bruisers. For Demolitioneer (25) he was near Survive and this is what the encounter looked like. It doesn't have the guy with the head wrap in the initial group at all for some reason.
It looks like in 8 you get four points where enemies change up what is in groups and what level they are. >Initial spawns. >Each chapter from chapter 1 until chapter 8 will level up enemies and add new enemies to each location. >Chapter 9 upgrades all the enemies on the map on both sides. >PA upgrades all the enemies on the map on both sides and adds a bunch of lower tier enemies into the group.
It's me, since I just finished the Legend run I'll try now, makes sense they'd only spawn in PA with the amount of time I wasted trying to get him to spawn
Kiryu is showing his age because his power level is directly correlated to absorbing Haruka's dicky juice. 2-3-4 was his peak, and in that time he doesn't age a day. Now he must find another source or perish.
The character exclusive armors are only in the story dungeons. I believe you get Joongi and Adachi's armors in the second-to-last dungeon first and then you'll get Chitose and Tomi's armors in the actual last dungeon (you can't get them until you're locked in to the final dungeon and you can only use them in Hawaii in Premium Adventure).
Main character armors are all in safes in the main story dungeons except for Ichiban and Kiryu who have theirs in the HH and YU respectively. Specifically the penultimate ones and the final ones.
Eric and Adachi's are in District Five.
Han and Chitose's are on Nele Island.
Seonhee and Zhao's are in Tojo Clan HQ.
Saeko and Nanba's are in the Millennium Tower.
Picture related is where Han's is. It's on a lower grated area overlooking the guys praying at a sconce.
Allright thanks, I'm just getting every job to lvl.30 and then I'll continue the story.
Outside of Han's they're all extremely hard to miss and are literally either in front of you or in your way along the only path you can go. I almost missed Han's because the safe sort of blends in with the grating so be careful when you get near that area.
If you do miss them you can just get them from a specific pawn shop in Hawaii or Yokohama. Same with if you frick up the crafting weapon for that character's ultimate weapon from Drink Links.
Main character armors are all in safes in the main story dungeons except for Ichiban and Kiryu who have theirs in the HH and YU respectively. Specifically the penultimate ones and the final ones.
Eric and Adachi's are in District Five.
Han and Chitose's are on Nele Island.
Seonhee and Zhao's are in Tojo Clan HQ.
Saeko and Nanba's are in the Millennium Tower.
Picture related is where Han's is. It's on a lower grated area overlooking the guys praying at a sconce.
>Yakuza 5 completion in Sotenbori >Akiyama is broke as frick >Therefore, Haruka will down 300 bottles of laxatives and eat the entire city's worth of food
Could someone sanity check something for me?
In Action Star is Boulder Breaker dealing more damage than Tiger Palm Strike? Because I'm dealing like 2200-2500 with BB while TPS is only like 1700-1800.
You're correct, but TPS says it's got "Extreme" damage despite three hits while BB says it's "Light" damage despite four hits. Maybe the crits really are that effective.
I've been wondering for a while if it's worth making a 100% crit build for Desperado. 7* Weapon gives 30% per ailment and brand is 20%, so if you slap both ailments it'll be 100%. Then give it both ailment rate brands for reliability. Problem is, Desperado has (decent) magic so you'll want the magic crit brand too.
Maybe you can have another party member apply the 2nd ailment but by then you might as well just use action star + joongi for free crits.
Problem is that you would only have 100% crit for two turns in an ideal scenario where your second character does another one. Theoretically Ichiban with the poop bat could apply both poison + blind and you'd get three turns of 100% crit.
Does anyone else want to see a final Yakuza game set in +50 years from now? In a Kamurocho that has been decimated by the population collapse in Japan, leaving half of the buildings abandoned and decrepit. Seeing all of the arcades closed, and mostly just old people walking around. With all of the old yakuza being actual real-estate managers in their mid 50s rather than thugs.
yes but he is effectively immortal because there's a succession of body doubles that go through some ocelot liquid self brainwashing shit and become han joon-gi, except this one is a bro rather than a seething b***h
I've gotten over Hanawa's death. I was legitimately VERY upset when it first happened and how the story treated it, but ehh, it matters very little in the grand scheme of things. Another case of Gaiden setting up great expectations with a plot point, only for 8 to mishandle it. I wouldn't have been so upset if Gaiden didn't exist.
Okay, only missing three weapons now. I will not get the DLC weapons from the points shops because if the game doesn't track it it doesn't count for completion :^)
What are you talking about? The ones in Hawaii can be fought twice (low lvl and high lvl), but after that them and the JP crowned bosses don't respawn until PA.
Yes, I’m talking about premium adventure. Hawaii’s Keepers respawns, as do Ijincho’s to a lesser degree, but Kamurocho’s won’t.
Guess they'll have a DLC for that
I don't know why they bothered with Kamurocho at all. Kiryu isn't even supposed to go there as previous games explain and there's basically nothing to do there when he does.
The final fight should've taken place in Tojo HQ or somewhere else.
wdym? they wanted to put a lot of kiryu flashbacks there
Yeah, but part of Kiryu's agreement with the Daidoji is he never sets foot in Kamurocho again. The Daidoji handler at the end even mentions that that Kiryu going there to fight Ebina is a one time exception, except you're allowed to go there whenever you want at all other points of the story before that. It's completely at odds with the story.
Kiryu also finds tons of stuff that reminds him of places and people from Kamurocho in Yokohama for the flashback stuff.
Yeah that's stupid. He shouldn't be able to walk the streets all open, where many people probably recognized him
The Daidoji are total jobbers in 8. They can't do shit against Kiryu, hell they don't even know he's meeting up with people from his past until Haruka.
It's really at odds with how ruthlessly omnipotent they are in Gaiden.
thinking about it, doesn't this mean the issues with the daidojo in 8 actually are more due to how they are in gaiden since 8 was made first?
They're shown to be omnipotent Illuminati types in 6 too. Gaiden felt more in line with their initial depiction. If they're such jobbers like they were in 8, Kiryu wouldn't have any problem taking them down and going on with his life.
I don't even remember them being in 6. I don't remember 6 at all except for Kiryu has a baby for some reason and lol giant ship
They were mentioned in 6, dunno how involved they were. I vaguely remember them at the end of the game. The yakuza in 6 were hiding the Yamato mk.2 Mr. Daidoji built, and Mr. Daidoji bade the young CEO guy to step up to the plate and become a boss by getting rid of Kiryu, but I don't think you actively fought agents or anything.
Remove Gaiden from existance and the Daidoji in 8 are still badly written and inconsistent
Not true, they knew Date was setting things up to help kiryu meet people from his past. They just let it happen because kiryu helped them out in the past and hes dying. They only got involved with haruka because kiryu was going way beyond the other interactions. Haruka is the sole reason he faked his death after all. Daidoji are still jobbers tho
>Haruka is the sole reason he faked his death after all
At that point the entire world knows Kiryu is still alive, but he can't meet his daughter one last time? It makes it seem like the Daidoji exist for the sole reason of spiting Kiryu.
Kiryu’s autism is a character flaw he has had since Y1, he says in-game he doesn’t want to meet most of the people from his past again because he “knows” he will die again soon anyway. Its why at the end of the game when he gets new motivation to live, he allows haruka to visit him during his treatment. Which was the goal of the whole bucket list/life link, to overcome his tism.
Yeah, but the Daidoji agent tells Date that if Kiryu had spoken to Haruka rather than just going near her, he'd be at the bottom of Tokyo Bay rather than just getting beat up.
Kiryu didn't speak to her because he felt he was going to die soon, but the Daidoji were ready to kill Date if Kiryu'd met with Haruka. They didn't seem to care that he met with anybody else.
i dont understand why kiryu allowed haruka to see him when he finally decided to get chemo; wouldn't that be throwing date's life away cuz daidoji would murder him?
or am i just forgetting a segment where kiryu beats up all of daidoji and says 'stop your shit you c**ts'
You have to assume that the life links conclude way before the end of chp 12 when Kiryu was filmed in front of the old Tojo HQ. They couldn't have him stay dead after that so the Haruka thing doesn't matter anymore, plus you have the other friendlier daidoji guy saying they're cool now in the Finale.
>or am i just forgetting a segment where kiryu beats up all of daidoji and says 'stop your shit you c**ts'
No, in fact Kiryu says he'll renew the agreement and will never talk to anybody, not even Date ever again after beating up the Daidoji agents beating on Date.
Then sometime in the 1 month time skip he fixes everything and regains his name and the Daidoji are never mentioned again.
It’s bad writing that they will have to solve next game
It's the problem that always arises when you make something important optional. You can just skip all of Date's stuff if you want, and so it has no baring on the rest of the game and is completely at odds with stuff happening because it could all be done in chapter 6 if you wanted to grind Kiryu's stats out all at once.
It should've been part of Kiryu's main story rather than some side plot.
>because it could all be done in chapter 6 if you wanted to grind Kiryu's stats out all at once.
Nah, it can't. Chapter 8 only lets you do Life Link 1 which is the Taichi one that acts as a tutorial. You have to reach chapter 10 in order to do 2-8 because LL2 is where Date and Kiryu discuss Tatara's video. 9 and 10 are locked behind chapter 12. They clearly have limits as to when these took place and technically Kiryu did all of them before the end of chapter 12.
Why Daidoji is chill with Kiryu meeting Haruka again is some thing I can fill in myself based on how Kiryu's identity got exposed. The part I'm more confused about is how or when Eji got exposed and became hunted by both the Yakuza and the public. He was last seen taunting Ichiban with Lani then the next time we see him, he's already in his JP apartment watching the Bryce stream.
>he says in-game he doesn’t want to meet most of the people from his past again because he “knows” he will die again soon anyway
Which directly contradicts what he's writing after each Life Link. He's effectively going "Seeing these people REALLY MAKES ME WANT TO LIVE HOLY CRAP LIFE IS AWESOME I DON'T WANT TO DIE" every time you read one of them but in dialogue he's a defeatist. It makes no sense.
>They just let it happen because kiryu helped them out in the past and hes dying.
>A cold, heartless glowie organization suddenly gives a frick about their buttslave because he did his job and has cancer
???????????????????????????
Kiryu calls them out on that.
This is Yokoyama's favorite trick, anon.
>Writes stupid shit
>Makes in-story quips about how the plot is stupid
>But makes no attempt to fix story
He did this multiple times if you look out for it
They were jobbers in Gaiden. Kiryu stomps them into the ground in the first chapter without really trying. They can only get the upper hand by pulling an Iwami and doing b***h ass moves like threatening Haruka.
>get shit done
>jobbers
I don't think you know what that word means
Threats or not, they are able to exert complete control over Kiryu in Gaiden, while in 8 Kiryu just kind of does whatever he wants even blatantly violating their agreement without so much as a peep.
Not to mention in 8 they only start lifting a finger after everything has gone to Hell in a handbasket when basically everything has been unearthed about Kiryu. They're completely incompetent in 8.
Reminder that Gaiden got made after 8 was already a done deal - they probably realized how much of a joke the daidoji seem to be and attempted to fix that with Gaiden.
It's kind of like how they brought Dwight back and tried to make him still seem like a threat after he pissed himself. You can't really retroactively fix the Daidoji's jobber status.
bringing Dwight back was just them going "we paid for Danny Trejo we can't just have him be in the first half"
Also they didn't kill him, and Danny Trejo has to have a wicked death if he's playing a villain.
That and for a secret organization that's not even supposed to be known they're very comfortable allowing total strangers to stay with them and spill all their secrets to them.
>Immediately let Kiryu call himself Kiryu to everyone who is barely even close to him.
>Almost no one uses his "Taichi Suzuki" alias to the point that even in the finale the Chief is telling Saeko to mind her words.
>They're willing to tell Ichiban, a random American, and someone related to people really high up in Japanese society the inner workings of their organization which isn't even supposed to exist to the general public and was effectively a mythical organization Seonhee barely even knew of in 7.
>Don't even vet anyone who enters their hideout which completely defeats the purpose of it being a hideout which leads to pure moronation from Hanawa and his crew.
>But then it turns out Hanawa also did somewhat vet them and sent the Daidoji a report praising Ichiban's group right before he got shot.
>Said report can also completely ruin Ichiban and his friends' lives in the future because it is essentially Hanawa telling all the higher ups Ichiban is a useful idiot, his friends are a bunch of useful idiots, and it would be super easy to take advantage of their morality and kindness to help the Daidoji do whatever they need if they just position stuff correctly.
>Then you have the guy in the finale just blab about who funds them, who supports them, and how benevolent they are to the entire crew for no real reason when we had no idea up until that point.
>Then you have the agents in the Life Links who make zero sense in their actions and have no real reason why they should be doing what they're doing because it genuinely doesn't matter anymore, but they're also super anal about rules and Kiryu's "promise" when the "promise" is already completely in shambles and doesn't really matter anymore.
>Then you have the agents in the Life Links who make zero sense in their actions and have no real reason why they should be doing what they're doing because it genuinely doesn't matter anymore, but they're also super anal about rules and Kiryu's "promise" when the "promise" is already completely in shambles and doesn't really matter anymore.
I think the life links were designed thinking the player would get to all of them before the vtuber reveals Kiryu is alive, which is moronic enough that it should be patched
They should've been part of the main story so that they came up in the right spots. Kiryu's part in Japan starts out with his bucket list, but then the main bits are optional? Makes no sense.
> in the finale the Chief is telling Saeko to mind her words
It's like they recorded all the lines for the game, and then realized "oh wait, Kiryu is supposed to be using an alias.... frick it, ship it!" and so they put that little nod in just to be like, "he's totally still incognito!"
that sounds so moronic since the life links are locked off by chapters as well.
They weren't, it's very explicit that they knew it would happen because Life Link 2 is directly talking about it and Life Link I think 5 or 6 has a character outright saying they saw the video. Life Links 2 to 8 also cannot be done until chapter 10 which is after the video happened.
Nope, taxi company shachou mentions the video. So it explicitly takes place after that.
They should unironically retcon most of 8
It’s not like anything substantial happens
Ichiban doesn’t even grow so who gives a frick
People complain about 3, but it added more than fricking 8 did
people who complained about 3 were always moronic, nothing new there.
>They should unironically retcon most of 8
Probably will, just like how they retconned all of 3 except Kiryu starting an orphanage, although there's barely anything in 8 to even retcon
It's simple: two parallel realities.
The proof?
In Gaiden Kiryu mentions having been a host in the past (Yakuza 2), but in Infinite Wealth, Kiryu meets with Yuki and reminisces about his time managing a hostess club (Kiwami 2).
These are two distinct timelines, 2 and Kiwami 2. In the 2 timeline, the Daidoji are competent and in the Kiwami 2 timeline they're incompetent.
Everybody's doing multiverses these days, 9 will be about the two parallel realities crossing over.
Except Gaiden has him saying he was both a host and he worked at Four Shine.
>Kiwami is the silly universe where everyone just does dumb shit all of the time
It checks out.
Any place where I can find the original 1 and 2?
>just play Kiwa-
No
just play kiwami
Emulate or play them on a real PS2/PS3.
Unless you know Japanese you're stuck with the PS2 versions
There is literally nothing wrong with the Kiwamis
I'm on chapter 13 and this is the first time I've heard Chitose actually give a compliment without any snark to it.
She has plenty of nice things to say in her Party Chat and Walk&Talks. She also definitely compliments Ichiban before chapter 13 in the story.
I'm finally seeing more JP fangirls voice their complaints about 8.
I hope 9 ends up being a lot better, assuming that the devs look into the feedback about 8 and Gaiden.
Are you friends with those "JP fangirls" or are you stalking them?
Following and/or discovering them on Tw*tter is no more "stalking" nor "befriending" them than one can be "stalking" or "befriending" anon by looking for threads relevant to my taste on Ganker. Many people share their game opinions online in public spaces, to be viewed by whoever is interested.
enjoy prison, stalker child
Moose-kun, do you know a guaranteed way of spawning the final evolution of your murderous heat Sujimon?
You don't spawn them, you awaken them like you would with other sujimans. The difference is that Muderous Heat sujimans require 2/3/5 to awaken instead of 1/2/3
Yes, I understand that, I just want to know if there’s a guaranteed spawn for their base form… y’know, the evolved Sujimon without the murderous heat.
Other than Sodachi (from story), they are all 3rd tier evolutions of common sujimans you can get from gacha, so if you're targeting specific ones you can try spamming specific type gacha.
You can just feed them the agents, can't you?
You can, and it's more efficient to because you need 2, 3, and 5 instead of 1, 2, and 3 to get into Murderous Heat.
people like you should go back to Video Game Generals. Do you realize how much of a homosexual you sound like?
i finished the main story yesterday
why did the last third of the game fall apart so hard
You realized that once you were done that was it unless you were a cuck and bought the new game+ and extra dungeon.
new game+ and the extra dungeon don't fix the shitshow of the story. They don't add anything to it at all except for one "obligatory beach filler episode" scene to really drive home that 8 is a 100+ hour filler game that doesn't push anything forward.
>he bought the dlc
lmfao
The ending feels rushed and disjointed as frick, and the most common theory seems to be that the devs fricked up the game's original script/concept for the sake of the dual protagonist system.
>for the sake of the dual protagonist system
Same thing that happened with 4, 5, and even 0 to a degree.
They need to stop doing this shit and go back to a single protagonist per game.
in general multi protag games are the most fun, but it tends to come at the cost of the narrative.
I'm fine with either but if I have to pick one or the other I'd say single narrative works best.
>When choosing between gameplay and narrative, the Ganker user chooses narrative
Yakuza is like the definition of movie game. 8 has like 80 hours of cutscenes.
They're extremely story heavy. If you don't like story in games, you wouldn't be playing this series.
to me every yakuza game is fun, so i can enjoy any entry based on its gameplay, so why not prioritize story if i'll always be satisfied with the other half of a game?
The problem with 5, 0, and 8 are that they basically have these parallel stories that barely intersect and then they try too hard to pull them together.
4 did a better job by having all the characters be in the same city dealing with the same problem, but they still didn't know what to do for the ending.
4 isn't a parallel story though, everything is happening in order as you play it.
Y’all see this
There's an engrish youtube stream later
A lot of people seem to be expecting another RGG game announcement, but isn't it too soon?
English versions of Y6 and Kiwami 1 were announced before Yakuza 0 even came out in the west.
They've released 3 games in less than a year. Need to keep up the momentum.
it's probably about the anti-social social club collab though
I've yet to see a single person actually interested in that shit-tier collab, but perhaps it's just because I don't follow zoomers on social media.
Would've been kind of cool if they didn't plaster their logo on everything they make 1000x over.
I wish Sega would just sell an actual 1:1 replica of Ichi's Hawaiian shirt. They have another red Hawaiian shirt in the works (lottery prize, iirc) but it's not the same as the in-game shirt.
Yeah, only gaming shirts I'd want to wear are ones with subtle elements that normies wont ever tell apart.
homies putting Ichiban's cropped head front and center, who the frick designed this?
>who the frick designed this?
It's for zoomers by zoomers.
Is this the actual fricking design?
Yes
https://www.otakustudy.com/video-game/2024/02/sega-and-anti-social-social-club-unveil-exclusive-like-a-dragon-fashion-collaboration/
I'd unironically rather wear the "I love Saeko" shirt in public than this. lmao
It's a good shirt.
Need MCR Saeko
unlocked with Drink Links completion
is that an actual saeko costume you can unlock or is it modded?
DLC costume
Isn't Ichiban a misfit for their brand? I don't understand.
>antisocial social club
an organization that i'd join honestly
Anti-Social Club is one of those scam designer brands like Supreme who sell their items for hundreds of dollars a pop right? A shame honestly, i actually really like some of these like pic related
Pink is pretty gay bro. I'd wear this one if anything.
These would be alright if the brand didn't vomit their name all over it.
why did kiryu give narasaki attitude when they first met that was rude of him
Narasaki was highly disrespectful to Kiryu first. Did you miss Narasaki mouthing off about how Kiryu's brain might've dulled? Kiryu just told off a no-name grunt who behaving like a pompous thug in front of a former Chairman.
He said that to him after Kiryu told him to frick off and not needing a guide.
From the beginning, Narasaki wasn't showing him any respect. He didn't bow or speak in a polite manner. When Kiryu told him he doesn't need a guide, he should have lowered his head and accepted it humbly.
Because he deserved it. Dude was a rude butthole who asskissed Ebina, and he got killed for it.
Kiryu is a prick to most yakuza types when he first meets them. It's like his default opinion that they're a thug because they most likely are. They have to prove to him otherwise and Narasaki didn't.
It's a power move, like when he told Ebina to get the frick out of the Chairman's spot. This and acting like a prick to other yakuzas might seem dickish, but the main thing yakuza's respect is strength and so Kiryu does these little power moves.
Kiryu doesn't do it to impress them though, he does it because he genuinely respects the social hierarchy that's supposed to exist within the yakuza. Narasaki and Ebina both act with blatant disregard (disrespect) for the foundational etiquette of the organization while they're basically squatting in Tojo HQ. It's no wonder at all that Kiryu is irritated by them.
So Ichiban is 46 in IW. In Yakuza 9 he'll be 50 if this four year game dev pattern continues. At what point will Ichiban be too old to run around cities having schizo battles with random punks, drunks, and yakuza?
This series has an obsession with the idea it’s never too late to start/do something so probably never unless his VA does or they stop making games.
Adachi is 63 in IW and gets around with less trouble than Akiyama's ass did in 5. I'm sick of people thinking Ichi is too old.
Adachi built different
It's all thanks to Joongi's hyper-autistic diet and exercise management after all the bulking Adachi did in 7.
Yeah, fatter
Little guy has the face of a forty-year-old man. He's like a small Sodachi.
At some point RGG stopped caring and just shrank adults down to call them kids. The children in Gaiden are probably the worst, literally just the usual adult NPCs but tiny.
Poor kid. What a nightmare it must be to have a middle-aged lady's head as elementary schooler.
I don't get why they didn't just copy/paste kids from Yakuza 6. They looked fine there.
those kids in 6 sounded like 40 years olds with that said.
That's what happens when you have strict child labor laws, rather than deal with all the red tape you just hire adult women to speak like children.
6's graphics and style are on a whole different level of care and quality that they're completely unable to match in recent games for some reason.
>for some reason
The reason is the PS4, the main platform for these games, cannot run Yakuza 6 at more than 20fps while later Dragon Engine games run at a stable 30.
It is time tome to drop PS4 now
No there's no reason to drop PS4, they just need to allow higher resolutions textures, models, hair, and lighting on PS5 and PC. Or they can run the PS4 version at 50% scale like they did with Yakuza 0 and Kiwami on PS3.
Plenty of other games do this, why does Yakuza need to be brought down by the PS4?
Because more people still use the PS4 now than used the PS3 back then.
Still doesn't mean that everyone else should deal with an inferior version of the games just because they're using an 11 year old console that was weak when it launched.
PS4 is the only thing that ensures 60 fps on 9th gen consoles and good performance on PC.
Holy shit is that a midget? She looks like she's 40.
>Oh frick we forgot to resolve that bit with Ching Ding's son
>It's cool just throw in a 2 minute scene in the last chapter where they find him
It's super obvious they had plans for Wong Tou and completely scrapped his shit mid-development.
Most of Kiryu's parts in Yokohama are also rushed "text with a picture" collectibles since they put 95% of the budget in Hawaii.
It’s extra shitty because it felt like they were setting up Wong Tou to be a party member. His son gets kidnapped and all of his wealth and power gets ripped out from under him as it’s revealed that much of the Ganzhe are Palekana spies. He’s a natural addition to the party given the circumstances, and it would have been a nice point in the story to get a new party member, especially compared to Han’s last minute inclusion.
But no, he gets shanked in the leg, sits in the safe house for a few chapters while contributing maybe 3 lines of dialogue, and then dies unceremoniously alongside Hanawa. They couldn’t even be bothered to make him a support like Yamai during the hotel escape sequence, he just sits in the background during each fight.
Sorry, we can't have more than 1 chinaman in the party
>Wong becomes more thankful to the party after they haul his ass back to the Daidoji safehouse while Yamai starts a Maui
>gets shot and dies a chapter or so later
>doesn't get to join the party and do crazy Chinese gymrat shit to save his son
I feel bad for him.
I'm really surprised they kept in Yamai starting a forest fire after the Maui inferno.
Shit really sucks, too. I stayed in Lahaina a couple years ago, and that was probably my favorite spot I ever vacationed in.
Did Hawaii really have a dedicated radio station for tourists or is it just this game?
Frick if I know. I wasn't in control of the radio in the rental.
Also, Honolulu blows. You've got some neat historical stuff like Diamond Head, but when it comes to the day to day stuff, you might as well be in Miami. It's just a regular fricking city. You're better off going to the other islands.
>male characters
Fire Arrow
Glory Awaits
Flying Monkey Strike
Trippy Flipper Ripper
Jellyfish Juice
Essence of Showboating
>female characters
Substitution Jutsu
Scum Scraper
Bubble Bale
Iron Matriarch
Speedy Super Serve
Essence of Natural Healing
Yep, it’s Yakuzing time
What about the Action Star move that doubles the damage of your next attack?
It boosts the next skill not any attack, and you don't really need it when you can just use the same skill twice. Maybe it'll be useful if you're fishing backstabs with Joongi's skills but can't get into position during the turn.
It's good for using alongside heat moves.
It mostly lets you save some MP while spamming big attacks
Use breaker ult weapon or chitose armor for infinite MP
I disagree.
>Male Characters (Physical)
Glory Awaits
Relentless Dragon's Dance
Fire Arrow
Trippy Flipper Ripper or Tiger Palm Strike
Wild Sweep
Essence of Showboating
>Male Characters (Magic)
Malodorous Stench (Nanba)
Wonder wienertail
Rose Stinger
Poisoned Cloudburst
Dynamite Fever
Jellyfish Juice
Essence of Rose Typhoon (For the charm + burn since Champagne Wave sucks by comparison)
>Female Characters
Subsitution Jutsu
Money Sucker
Noisy Racket
Scum Scraper
Bubble Bale
Kumu Hula Corkscrew or Blossoming 'Uli'uli depending on if you want grapple or attribute knockback.
Essence of Natural Healing
Female characters (If they're not in Night Queen or Tennis Ace) nearly always have higher MAG over ATK. It makes no sense to carry over a physical skill unless you're specifically sitting in NQ or TA which you likely won't since Housekeeper and Geodancer are just so amazing. Plus, you'll very likely be wearing a Rainbow Hat since it's the best hat in the game outside of the Wizard Hat and it gives +20 MAG.
>and you don't really need it when you can just use the same skill twice.
It's a 2.5x damage buff to make what you're doing not seem as appealing.
Not the big fish smack?
Any tips on awakening Kiryu? I'm on chapter 12 and level 7 on all 3 styles but I need to be level 9 to unlock the other 2 life links.
I've already done almost all the remembering things so is my only option now to go through the completion list?
Beat up the part time hero mooks. I got to level 9 just with those and the memories.
part time hero + mahjong
>mahjong
have a nice day
real answer is to do golf and baseball, they're easy
What's wrong anon? Mahjong is fun
I think some of the minigames have the 5* base weapon used for crafting ultimate weapons so you may want to do those
check the completion menu and do the tasks that give you rewards, i recommend just going to new reasturants and you should get enough points by then
Haha, I’ve done it. Now to go back to using the Kiwami Sujimon lol.
There are some nice Carnival drawings
how about Kamurocho where every interior can be entered? maybe you can be a ghost?
supernatural like a dragon game
Why would you want this? It's an action game not an immersive sim
Will they even use Kamurocho again? IW felt like the end of it along with Kiryu.
>Will they even use Kamurocho again?
They'll continue to tack it on even if it has zero plot relevance just because they can and fans will scream "how can a Yakuza game not have Kamurocho?!" like they did with Gaiden. Ending at the Millennium Tower in 8 already felt so forced.
I prefered the previous installment, IW has the better gameplaty but story wise the previous one was way better.
Even the spin off like a dragon gaiden was way better what the frick happened?
The last chapters with Kiryu was horrible and boring to go through.
The Daidoji still fear Kiryu despite his cancer.
Don't all the crowns respawn near the end of the game?
Yes, but only the Hawaii and Ijincho enemies. Kamurocho crown bosses don’t respawn.
appearently for yakuza 4 they planned to expand kamurocho on the ground but opted for area above and beneath instead
would have prefered a bit of shinjuku tacked on tbh. frick the roofs and the tunnels
>frick the roofs and the tunnels
unbased and non-comfy. roofs and tunnels were peak comfiness. More should have been done with them afterwards
I can't believe they took out the additions from 4. I always feel like I should be able to walk into the underground mall in the later games and am disappointed I can't.
Here's a question for TRUE YAKUZA HISTORIANS: what game did the big rooftop garden areas with green grass first show up in? There's one in the theater district, and one near the millennium tower, right?
6, it's when they finally let you up onto the non-rooftop part of the rooftop via the elevators since that's where you do one of the bomb missions. Dead Souls had a floor lower than the rooftop but not the one you fight Nishiki or Tendo in that was like a giant hall with pillars.
The stun's okay but the damage is subpar compared to Tiger Palm Strike. I regularly get like 1600-1800 damage on TPS while on Ahi Aloha I get like 1200-1400. If you want knockback it's fine I guess.
The one in Theatre Square was added in 4.
The Millennium Tower one was added in 6.
I'd forgotten how shit the graphics in 3 and 4 were. I feel like they've aged worse than the PS2 games even.
PS2 games in general tend to look better than early PS3 games. It was a rough transition to more realistic graphics while PS2 game feel arcade-y still.
5/Ishin/0/Kiwami still look very good even by today's standards.
ty based historians
It was probably because of how underutilized Kamurocho is in general in Y5. There's no point in having the rooftop or underground areas if you have no real use for them. No story events, no substories.
>frick the roofs and the tunnels
I really miss them, even if they don't add much to the game, it adds density, and that's what's special about rgg games until Isezaki Ijincho and Hawaii, I miss vertical depth.
i love the japanese announcer in the trailers when he says
RYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYUUU
GA GOTOKU
....EIGHTO
We already know next game will have Hawaii again because they can't just give up a location they spent that much time designing.
I prefer Hawaii over Yokohama, but I know they'll reuse both.
I hope not. It would feel so forced. At least yokohama is where ichiban has settled down
Yokohama blows though. Ichi should have gone to Sotenbori with the Jimas after 7.
yeah..I still want daigo to be a party member. maybe next game
Isn't Daigo's seiyuu like a celebrity or something? I think that's why he's always been not a main character
Other than Kiryu-Chan I don’t think RGG wants to use legacy characters as party members. I think we’ll get one new guy, Akame because Chitose probably won’t come back and they need a lady, and Sawashiro to bring his story with Ichiban full circle.
I think the bigger issue is the other guys are too strong. Kiryu can be in turn-based combat because he's currently at like half strength.
Why expect a return of Akame when we could have an entirely new girl instead?
I also couldn't give less of a shit about Sawashiro at this point, and he'd drag down any party dynamic. Thankfully, I don't think I have to worry about him ever being a party member.
>he'd drag down any party dynamic.
I think it’d be funny to have a guy who doesn’t buy into Ichiban’s shit
The only new party member people seem to want at this point is Yamai, which isn't gonna happen.
If LAD9 brings us back to Hawaii (and it will for the reason I said here
) then that's the perfect excuse for him to join. The question is will he fit in the group dynamic?
He really should have joined for the late game at least. It would complete JRPG trope of boss character joining the party
I know I’m playing with fire considering how much they bungled the dual protags in 8, but I’d rather Yamai have his own party rather than being a part of Ichiban’s. It’s already established that Yamai has a habit of taking strays under his wing, and Yamai’s tough love would contrast nicely with Ichiban’s power of friendship.
NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE A HECKIN' MURDERER AS A PLAYABLE CHARACTER IN THIS SERIES ABOUT FORMER CRIMINALS SEEKING REDEMPTION
Yamai's contrast with Ichiban is exactly why I'd like him to be in Ichiban's party though. Yamai is an old-school yakuza and Ichi hasn't had the chance to bond with someone like that (Kiryu aside, who doesn't count because he's too special). I honestly think Ichiban would understand and appreciate the "tough love" and other questionable parts of Yamai's behavior. They're from the same yakuza era, and both missed their chance to experience the Dragon of Dojima years firsthand.
I think the main problem with having him in the party, and the reason I hope they don't do it, is they would either have to kill his character by making him a scrimblo bimblo going along with the party's silly shenanigans, or he would just awkwardly be there making everything tense.
>to kill his character by making him a scrimblo bimblo going along with the party's silly shenanigans, or he would just awkwardly be there making everything tense.
I'm not 100% sure what a scrimblo bimblo is, but Yamai is already clearly tolerant of shenanigans. Did you see his boys having a birthday party in the middle of the raid on their hideout? Did you miss that he lets strong-willed women walk all over him? He let Tomi off the hook super easy; he protected Kiryu, Akane, and Lani; he just acts tsundere when Ichiban is overly casual with him. I can already imagine that his character is the "surprisingly" easygoing type, whose natural charisma gives his underlings confidence in him, in spite of his quirks.
Once Ichiban shares his read on Yamai with the rest of the party--that's he's actually an upstanding man and even a bit of a softie--no one will be tense around him. I think it would be harder for the writers to try to portray him as a convincing antagonist at this point than it would be to have him team up with Ichiban.
>Did you see his boys having a birthday party in the middle of the raid on their hideout?
One of the best parts of the game. But I mean that despite not being as bad as he first seems, he's a hardened criminal compared to ichiban, and it would make for a weird party dynamic (kind of like zhao and joongi, tbh, where these actual murderers are palling around with this shonen protagonist). I just don't see him acting totally unguarded with Ichiban being in character.
If Yamai is supposed to be Ichiban's Majima, I want to find out that he's actually a lot stronger than 8 portrayed him, and want to see him pushing Ichiban to become stronger and give him the battle that he missed his chance to have with The Dragon of Dojima.
Also, isn't Yamai's room full of movie posters? This guy would definitely bullshit with the team during the Party Chat where they walk past a movie theater.
Yamai as an ex-yakuza only a few years older than Ichiban would definitely not be weirder for the party dynamic than having Zhao, Joongi, or Seonhee in the group. At the end of the day, despite their titles or whatever criminal shit they've done, they're all "just people" and the series portrays them as such.
While I don’t think you’re wrong, I’d rather Yamai not be an accessory to Ichiban. He’s too charismatic for that and commands too much presence to be a follower. Let him have his own stuff going on, with his own people, that occasionally intersects with Ichi and his people.
Though honestly I would be happy either way, as long as I get to use Keelhauler to fling people across the map.
>Yamai is like Luigi in Thousand Year Door and he just shows up from time to time with his own party on a parallel adventure from Ichiban's
bonus points if you get to fight his party as well
Extra bonus points if it's like the Yakuza 5 Kiryu vs. Saejima fight and you get to pick which party to control.
>mogs Ichiban's Hawaii crew
Can't wait to do the old doctor's drink link. He's definitely seen some shit.
I'm glad the getaway driver dude wasn't a traitor. He was a real bro.
All the major characters' faces are so damn moist in this game.
Makes sense for Hawaii at least.
Yeah, but Ichiban, Adachi, and Nanba are all moist in Yokohama at the start too. I wanted them all to dab their faces with towels.
In December of all months. Most games in the Dragon Engine feel like they take place in the summer, especially if it's in Ijincho. Are the trees really that green that time of year in Japan?
Most of Japan is similar to the American south in climate. The trees definitely have leaves all year round in Yokohama.
Daigo and Saejima would be great to have in the party for Table Talks, Walk&Talks, etc. I'd love to revisit the side of Saejima's character we only saw when he was playable in 4 and 5, and Daigo has never had such an opportunity to just be himself in the mainline series.
I'm annoyed that Dragon Engine Sotenbori still has that big chunk of nothing in the middle of the south side.
that much is obvious, and honestly, seeing the Judgment cast with new clothes for Hawaii would be kino.
the real question is, where is the next mainline game going? You have to remember that every single mainline entry, apart from 4, added a new city.
it's crazy how in 7, by the 50 hour mark, I felt done with it. The only thing keeping me going was the story, but it's been completely reversed for 8.
I finished it at 120 hours and still wanted to play it, but that was DESPITE the story. I want to do an NG+ run in the future without skipping a single cutscene and without doing side content, because I feel like I was maybe too stupid to understand it. Or, maybe it's just another case of HACKyama writing
>where is the next mainline game going?
Seiryo High School
>I finished it at 120 hours and still wanted to play it, but that was DESPITE the story
They really improved the combat. From a bird's eye view it doesn't seem like it changed that much, but it just feels so much more satisfying.
You're definitely not the problem when Eiji disappears from the story after causing multiples deaths and threatening to kill a child at the 3/4 mark, showing zero remorse all the while, and then when he pops up again in the ending Ichi's just like
>It's all cool bro, let's hang out once you're out of prison 🙂
Singapore in Kinoyama Gaiden
I want a new judgment where you go to Onimichi, would be perfect for detective shenanigans
Onimichi is the comfiest location they've ever had, and it's already been made for the Dragon Engine unlike Okinawa. They really should bring it back.
>Onimichi is the comfiest location they've ever had
Onomichi reminds me of coastal Maine towns, I think it's why I like it so much.
>Onimichi
I'm surprised there hasn't been an Oni-Michio superboss yet.
8 had the robo-michio sentai squad
Next Judgment might go to Hawaii, or they can reuse the assets for Okinawa in a Kiwami 3.
WE ARE
BAD
BOOOOOYYYYYSSSSSS
we are the yakuza 4
A SELFISH DEED IS NOT FREEDOM
CANT JUSTIFEEEE
Worst city in 5?
Tsukimino, and it's not even close.
Isn't Sapporo known for its underground malls? Why did they make the ground level with large crosswalks instead of that?
>Isn't Sapporo known for its underground malls?
Yes, because it means not being exposed to the cold outside air
Probably because Kamurocho already had an underground mall and they didn't want it to feel the same.
I don't remember the name, it's a district in Sapporo that Saejima has as his town. The substories feel mostly halfassed, there's barely anything to do there, you have to leave the area to do his big sidestory, and big chunks of it are gated off because you can only cross the street at crosswalks.
By contast
>Kamurocho is Kamurocho
>Sotenbori does a lot to expand it
>Kineicho makes sure you know everyone in that town by the time you're done there
I can't complain. I always wanted his boss to be playable on Yakuza 7.
Ok I get Eiji and Ebina's motivations, and I understand that the whole usage of nuclear waste throughout the plot is a metaphor for the yakuza itself. It's something people have to do something about but they don't want to do anything that actually is productive or puts responsibility on themselves so they just want to shove it somewhere and forget about it.
But what is Bryce's motivation in all of this?
Power. He doesn't care about all the bullshit surrounding the yakuza, he just wants absolute control over his little fiefdom in Hawaii and is willing to kill anyone that could jeapordize that.
didn't he say that he was doing the stuff just to get in with governments so he could hold their dirt and then use it against them? He would become indisposable and from there...do something? He was like 90 years old at that point. Not sure what was going on tbh.
Bryce was a very old man with a god complex who lucked into his position of power when he murdered some people decades ago.
Bryce's just doing the same keikaku he's been doing for decades which is to consolidate undesirables on Nele Island, it's just that he's too old or moronic to understand that doing the same with nuclear waste will never work. Something Ebina already pointed out.
>it's just that he's too old or moronic to understand that doing the same with nuclear waste will never work
Like I said, the nuclear waste is only literal so much as the surface plot is considered, it's basically just one giant metaphor. The reason Ebina said the plan will never work is because he's referring to the yakuza, you can't just shove them somewhere else and expect the problem to go away.
make money get b***hes
Bryce is unironically the villain with the least amount of problems around him due to how simple he is.
>But what is Bryce's motivation in all of this?
Did you just ignore his entire speech before the fight? He lays everyone out point by point including his motivations and goals.
He wants Nele Island for the fact that it gives him leverage and power over all the nations who want to do business with him. He gets off on the fact that people praise him and think he's amazing, and he absolutely loves the control he has over his "flock" and the governments who want to invest in Nele Island. He literally calls himself a god which either Zhao or Ichiban basically insulted him over.
His plans are so simple and straightforward without any foresight that Ebina outright insults him in his own speech.
Han, not Zhao, whoops. Might have been Eric actually but you get the point.
I miss Yagami.
Lost judgment was way more kino than IW
One of the best games that I have ever played with a really addictive gameplay BUT with one of the shitties stories that I have ever played. 10/10 RGG.
I really can't recommend this series to anyone because of the second hand embarrassment of this writting.
eh where's your mom Ichi, she's back in Hawaii? Did you say goodbye? Eh I don't know I'm busy forgiving this guy who was responsible for the death of like four of my pals lol!
This. I've got over 100 hours in 8 which is more than I've put into any other Yakuza game besides 0, but the writing is the lowest point the series has ever been. I expect crazy plot twists and such, but 8's story is just dumb.
>but the writing is the lowest point the series has ever been
That's still 3. 3 has an extremely barebones plot that relies more on shocking twists than actually having a good narrative.
IW was built upon 3's writing so uhhhh CHECKMATE ATHEISTS
did they hide this dialogue behind letting kasuga get raped repeatedly again
Yes
Rape and falling off a skyscraper isn't that different u see
The funny thing is Wesker is probably the least important part of 3, the primary plot of that game is Kiryu dealing with the fallout of bringing the Tojo to ruin 2 games in a row (tbf, if he hadn't done it in 2, the Koreans would've killed them all). It just fumbles it at every turn and makes you care more about Kiryu's personal relationship with Rikiya than anything in the actual narrative. Like who actually fricking remembers anything about Nanda besides him being a loud fat man that is angry you defeated Nishiki?
>Like who actually fricking remembers anything about Nanda
Kanda getting his head cut off and stuffed in a suitcase was kind of a cool scene as I remember it. Mine was rad.
Sorry right, I meant Kanda. Had a typo there. Big angry man that likes tickling girls.
I remember Kanda well because he was there to develop Mine as a character more than anything. He actually had a lot of memorable scenes: slapping his men, running naked from Kiryu, having a moron meltie in Mine's office then being dragged off to be killed.
I really wish that 8 gave any one of its villains as much substance as Mine. It's bizarre and awful that Ebina is the acting head of the yakuza in this game and by the end I still felt like "who the frick is guy".
The relationships between all the Okinawa crew was really comfy. Big shitty plot aside, the small things were nice. Not like in 8 where Ichi forgives Chitose like 4 times.
Y3 had strong influence from Kitano's Sonatine, even this guy was a straight rip from a character from that film.
>The relationships between all the Okinawa crew was really comfy. Big shitty plot aside, the small things were nice. Not like in 8 where Ichi forgives Chitose like 4 times.
Agreed 100%. I was surprised that I actually loved all of the orphanage parts and the "boring" parts, and thought Mine was a pretty shit character (looks cool though, I have to admit). I was waiting for his big motivation to be revealed, to finally make his popularity make sense, and then it was "I need to kill this guy because I LOVE HIM SO MUCH MAN" or some shit. Putting that aside, having the villain just infodump their whole character at the very end of the game is terrible.
>having the villain just infodump their whole character at the very end of the game is terrible
i can't believe they did this in BOTH of 8's finales
>but the writing is the lowest point the series has ever been
5 is still the worst for me
>3 has an extremely barebones plot
which is comfy and works
>5 is still the worst for me
5 is a good overall plot that just has some really dumb moments in it, which is the opposite of how these games usually are.
5 completely drops the ball at the end, the twists are insanely dumb.
I disagree, 5's final act works fine. Where it actually drops the ball is specifically Saejima's and Akiyama's segments, because for the former it's a retread of his arc in 4 because they have no goddamn idea of what to do with the character, and in the latter's case he's a hanger-on that exists to service other characters in the plot.
>I disagree, 5's final act works fine
When the final boss doesn't even know why they are there, that doesn't count as working fine.
my favorite part of 5 is how three of the main characters beat the shit out of the same jumper-wearing scared little manboy for absolutely no fricking reason
5 feels like Yokoyama tried to make his own Avengers setup, but got bored a third of the way through so he made his Nick Fury evil to amuse and surprise himself
Really? It was obvious from the start that the mysterious threatening man who appears in everyone else's lives was in fact the evil mastermind behind everything. Who fricking else could it be?
I fricking hate how people interpret that line so much. He's saying that from his own fricking perspective, not to make some kind of cheeky meta commentary on the story he's in. He's conflicted between his own desires and the desires his father thrust upon him. I know media literacy became a stupid meme phrase but I swear to god 90% of Yakuza players are utterly incapable of seriously engaging with a text.
Aizawa and rubber bullets are easily the biggest litmus tests as to whether or not someone's opinion on these games' stories should immediately be disregarded. Aizawa is the perfect thematic final boss for 5. He's the antithesis of the YUME they keep pounding into your head all game, a man who achieved everything through nepotism and as a result doesn't really give a damn. But he's not completely cynical and hateful like his father, rather he figures that everything else aside, if he manages to beat the living god Kiryu then people will have no choice to respect him and say he earned it. For as much as people rag on Yakuza 5 for MUH YUME I think people often gloss over the fact that the game does earnestly approach the concept of dreams from some very nuanced angles.
Nothing Kurosawa does as a fake cop really makes any sense so it's not hard to imagine his fake persona was originally a different character or some such at the concept level. He literally has Baba use a rail gun on Kitakata and then has someone else immediately give him miracle anti sniper first aid, it's nonsense
>I fricking hate how people interpret that line so much. He's saying that from his own fricking perspective, not to make some kind of cheeky meta commentary on the story he's in.
This whole thing sounds exactly like the ending of 8. The fricking epilogue is about how Ebina___ didn't even knew what he was doing.
No, you're wrong. I know he's not saying it in a meta sense, but his motivations are too confused to be remotely compelling. "I hate nepotism but I'm going to take power because of my daddy getting rid of all my enemies, but I hate my daddy"
>"I hate nepotism but I'm going to take power because of my daddy getting rid of all my enemies, but I hate my daddy"
Holy shit you're fricking stupid. No, let me spell out to you what he's saying,
>Yeah, I know I didn't earn jack shit to obtain this position, but at the end of the day we yakuza live in a world of strength so as long as I beat you, nothing up to this point matters and they'll have to recognize me as the true inheritor. Nishiki understood that, Ryuji understood that, the only difference is they failed and I won't.
That still makes no sense because the only reason he had a chance in hell of taking power was because his daddy pulled all the strings for him. He's rebelling against his dad by doing exactly what his dad wanted for him, bravo.
>He's rebelling against his dad by doing exactly what his dad wanted for him, bravo.
He's not rebelling against his father, he ultimately wants to fulfill his father's wishes (filial piety and all that) but he's conflicted because his father did EVERYTHING for him so all he can think is "what did I accomplish here on my own?" That's why he needs to beat you, need to prove to not just others but himself that when push comes to shove, he can fricking shove. That he can never care about being chairman if it's just handed to him.
>That he can never care about being chairman if it's just handed to him.
Which it effectively was.
>nothing up to this point matters and they'll have to recognize me as the true inheritor
And that's why it's so dumb.
Nishiki, Ryuji and everyone else grinded their asses up the chain and this b***h boy took the shortcut.
No you don't get a shot at Kiyru just because of circumstances. There's no redeeming point that makes you go "yeah, I get him and he earned it".
>No you don't get a shot at Kiyru just because of circumstances.
You do when it's your YUME
As I said, he's the thematic final boss more than the narrative one. What, did he need a fricking MGSV intro where it says "AIZAWA: THE MAN DENIED A DREAM" for people watching to get it? Realistically whether he beat Kiryu is actually kinda irrelevant, the reason he's the final boss is his father thinks dreams are stupid and worthless while hypocritically sacrificing everything for the dream of leaving it all to his son. He's not just a brute like Ryuji, he has actually thought out the implications of the life he's been given allowed him success but at the same time never let him have any dreams of his own. That's why he says, "I don't even know why I'm here", because he's just been going through the motions his whole life, coasting by on what his dad gave him. He's saying, "I don't know much about dreams, never really getting the chance to have one...but if I beat you, that's gotta mean something."
He ain't chairman yet.
>He ain't chairman yet
Just like the nepo babies who say their daddy only got them a foot in the door, he got his chance for a 1v1 with Kiryu.
No I mean he's quite literally not chairman yet, no one has yet to recognize him. Also, let's not pretend you actually have to earn the job, the Fifth became Chairman because Kiryu appointed him, the dude worked for the Omi 10 minutes earlier and was actually a super secret Korean but that's the next game
Anyone that says 4 or 5 has the dumbest twists has to go back and play 2.
nah, 4 wins by a wide margin
5 just have too many, as with everything else in that game
Rubber bullets, in the initial Saejima scene, make a lot of sense and is actually scripted in a clever way. The problem is then there are like 4 more instances in the game of someone getting shot only to go PSYCHE homie, THEM'S BULLETS ARE RUBBER and somehow expected us to fall for it every time because the characters did.
it only happens one more time, Katsuragi has the 1 non moron moment in his life and wears a bullet proof vest and Akiyama has magic money
Arai shoots Munakata and in the final Munakata shoots Arai
Munakata demonstrating the rubberness of the bullets isn't really a shocking le ebin rubber twist
Nta but the first of the two is definitely a twist, they frame it like Arai killed Munakata only for him to show up later like it's shocking.
Yeah that's the one time they use it after Saejima. The game has an obsession with shocking gun reveals in general though like Arai killing the guy at the beginning or Arai killing Shibata or Arai shooting Kido. Basically any time Arai is in the vicinity of a gun
>Basically any time Arai is in the vicinity of a gun
Or Daigo in the series since he's apparently the greatest gunslinger in the west
It's to make up for him being such a subpar fistfighter among his peers
shinada was just really strong breh
Hey if I did Shinada's daily exercises I'd be absolutely ripped too
>somehow expected us to fall for it every time because the characters did.
And what doesn't make sense is they all knew about rubber bullets at that point. Like why would Arai not be able to tell? The guy's a cop and can't fricking tell a rubber bullet from a real one?
am I supposed to believe Saejima shot 18 men multiple times and didn't notice something is off?
Being in the heat of the moment, never having used a gun before, and everyone fell over seemingly dead? Yeah.
It's like they placed all their good writing in Gaiden. And went full gameplay in 8.
I just sang If I could love the one I love at a karaoke party.
>1600 yen for a pancake? Yeah, seems reasonable.
>16 dollars for a pancake? No way, I’m keeping my money.
Now I can’t look at prices in yen the same.
If food in the games actually cost as much as it does in Japan, you'd never run out of money.
0 was like this.
You'll make hundreds of millions from single street fights and then could go buy a meal for 500 yen.
>$42 for a hawaiian pizza
holy frick
Hawaiian pizza isn't even Hawaiian, it's Canadian. I'm surprised no one in the game mentions this because people in Hawaii sure do irl.
yen for a coffee that restores all MP? Nice, I’ll take twenty!
>140 dollars for a fricking coffee? Get out of here, I don’t care how good it is, I’m never visiting your shop again.
>He doesn't import from Japan on a regular basis to have to mentally convert.
Joking aside, it's more like $12 or $13 since the Yen sucks so much. That's more than a diner charges in most states but in the hoity toity states it's about right.
I wonder if Yagami meets Ichiban one day. Kiryu already met Kaito and Higashi and even had a substory with them
If beta Yagami stayed, maybe.
big fricking gorilla
Yagami has his own party already to match Ichiban's (Kaito, Higashi, Sugiura, Tsukumo, & Tesso would be solid, maybe Mafuyu and Saori too), I want a proper crossover between the two
Jobs:
>Yagami - Private Eye
>Kaito - Bouncer
>Higashi - Manager
>Sugiura - Thief
>Tsukumo - Hacker
>Tesso - Officer
>Saori - Attorney
>Mafuyu - Prosecutor
Aw hell no, two female members is a bad thing and limits gameplay a LOT. At least a third one is needed to balance the numbers a bit more. I’d say… include Amasawa and maybe Itokura in place of Mafuyu.
I wasted 300 million yen on poundmates because I do not want to fight anymore. I'll waste the rest nuking Amons now even if it eats the rest of my money.
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>Ever since 5 they keep making people talk about their dreams more and more.
>8 had people constantly doing it as well but not to 5's degree.
It's so noticeable now it has to be intentional.
does everyone in hawaii really speak japanese
Japanese take up to 14% of Hawaii's population.
If you are looking for depressed Japanese milfs, it's your place to go
where can I find Chitose gf in hawaii
You can find an alo-happy gf instead.
DEAL.
The mascot dude cums with her though. Prepare your anus.
Is Kasuga still a canon virgin by the end of a 100% run?
Yes, because being raped in 8 won't be canon in 9.
Kiryu is still a canon virgin too.
In very specific spots, especially in the designated Japanese neighborhood called “Little Japan”. Can also be heard in a few tourist-y spots, like the mall and the beach.
Next games party will be
>Kson as Kson
>Yongyea as Yongyea
>Markiplier as Markiplier
>That japanese MMA guy that can't act for shit
>That japanese MMA guy that can't act for shit
I'm surprised how hard they pushed him. He has like 5 exclusive substories. He reminds me of that chef with the very punchable face from 5.
is it real that this Asakura guy quit MMA after being knocked out in a fight not even a week after the release of IW?
ARE YOU READY GO
>hostess review substories in 4
I just want to fight Amons
you guys saw the new RGG leaks?
QRD?
This guy has the weirdest fricking face
The video calls in Judgment were ridiculous
Judgment had a very "how do you do fellow kids" vibe.
The bluetooth ear pieces, video calls, drones, etc. It felt like what middle aged men think teenagers do.
Glad they ditched all that in Lost Judgment (except the drones, drone racing's fun).
did you saw the new leak in my pants when I look at Chitose's feet?
What the frick, they removed survival mode from Y4 remaster?
Is Gaiden into Infinite Wealth the new Ground Zeroes into Phantom Pain?
Basically. Gaiden is a far more polished and concise game that has almost nothing to do with 8, just like GZ is to TPP.
If Daigo had been holding the rocket launcher in 8, he wouldn't have missed.
Earlier today I finished replaying 4.
Within like 10 minutes frame
>Kido betrays Katsuragi
>Arai betrays Kido
>Katsuragi pulls deus ex machina pistol after being set free
>Arai betrays Munakata
>Within like 10 minutes frame
I honestly miss this. Yakuza 1-6 (+0 and Gaiden) have very tight main stories. 7 and 8 are so long, but not much happens. They make 5, the longest game prior, seem brief.
JRPGs command 100+ hour play times just to feel sufficient.
Action games are typically ~30 hours.
This makes a ton of sense when you consider the difference in gameplay progression. 7+8 are very well paced for a JRPG.
5 was intentionally supposed to feel fricking huge. Loved it at the time, don't think I'd be able to enjoy the game in the same way now with how my life is though, it's one of those games you need to have a lot of free time for
and it was the funniest the series has ever been.
https://twitter.com/RGGStudio/status/1763305977254731974
>Sega of Japan's Development members are starting an ENGLISH edition of Ryu Ga Gotoku TV
>Tune-in for English commentary on #27 Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio TV to learn more behind-the-scenes details of RGG Studio!
>WATCH TODAY @ 4pm PST/7pm EST
>7pm EST
>mbappe
Aw man, I need to sleep now. All this American pandering annoys me, everything gets streamed while I’m asleep.
It was absolutely nothing. Three literally-whos from the dev team mumbled over pre-release variety show footage.
Will this be a game announcement or more likely to be just post-release DLC for 8 and some inhalation of their own farts?
>just post-release DLC for 8
$40 DLC incoming, since that's the hip new thing to do.
>post-release DLC for 8
I don't think they'd announce that. We already knew The Kaito Files was going to happen when LJ came out. They'll probably show off the free DLC though.
>They'll probably show off the free DLC though.
The fricking million sale t-shirts they announced a month ago? lol, imagine doing a press conference just for that.
Begins in three minutes.
What classifies a person in the Yakuza universe as a “Sujimon”? You’d think it’s someone who fits the following criteria:
>strong in combat
>wild personality
>strange appearances
But, you look at someone like Sodachi and his students and it no longer makes any sense. The Professor and Joker being former Sujimon? Yeah, totally can see that. Three ordinary blokes who practiced karate and are pretty horny? I fail to see how that makes them a Sujimon. AND, if you factor in the DLCs, Ichiban’s own friends could be considered Sujimon, even bosses are considered Sujimon. In fact, Ichiban himself was asked if he considered becoming a Sujimon, and his answer was simply that he didn’t have that idea in mind.
So, what distinguishes between a man and Sujimon?
Don't take any of the DLC at face value, it's all cheat DLC. If you take DLC at face value then Kiryu from 8 met Kaoru and his past self from 6 was wandering around Dondoko Island while he was also there while he fights side-by-side with himself from a few days later as a Sujimon.
>lol, imagine doing a press conference just for that.
Did you forget when they did an entire announcement just for cologne and perfumes?
Your pic of those fatties makes me wonder if RGG ever got an unlicensed cosplay AV.
Well, I didn’t buy the DLC, and Kazuma Kiryu (2016) is right now living in the same house as Sayama in Dondoko, but I digress. Kiryu was considered a “Sujimon” in Yakuza 7, and he becomes a playable Sujimon in 8, but its post-game content and doesn’t really count.
>Kiryu was considered a “Sujimon” in Yakuza 7
Right, I forgot about that one. I wouldn't consider 7's Sujimon the same as 8's though since 8's seem like a completely different beast while 7's was just weird people in society that only the Sujimon Professor and Ichiban could see.
>I wish Yakuza had a larger following in the west so it will keep getting localisations!
Why is Kiryu working for the daidoji when he could've threatened them to expose their identity and everything that happened in Onomichi, in case they decided to go after his family?
Muh honor
Why didn't he just take the 10 billion yen hush money he was offered and move on?
"No I'm not greedy, I'll become your slave instead!"
He needed to publicly announce his death, make it official. He couldn't do that on his own.
He didn't need to die at all if he wasn't autistic.
It’s almost over. About 40 hours of cleanup left for the 100%. I hope the Big Swell will at least be a little difficult on Legend unlike the rest of the game.
What a madlad. I'm already running out of steam doing the Big Swell the first time around after polishing off the rest of the optional dungeons.
I'm also majorly pissed off because ever since I learned about the rainbow achievement, I've never seen one after a squall.
The RNG currently fricking me is finding lootable toilets with Kiryu, the overworld ones do not respawn the loot and in two entire playthroughs worth of dungeon crawling I only got 9.
Why are you trying to find them from toilets? Go to the top-left of Chinatown and either take the taxi over and over to it then go around the corner, or run back and forth from that corner down Downtown Street and back. The Aloha Links friend who sells stuff sells you 5 poop per ecounter.
It's not the egestas I'm after, it's the "loot 15 toilets" from the completion list.
It’s not RNG, they respawn after a certain amount of toilets are looted, I think 4 or 5. There’s an easy loop I found in Ijincho: bathroom on the west side of the large park, bathroom where the gambling place is outside Chinatown, and the bathroom that’s in the top middle (along the highway) of the lower half of the map. All three have taxis near them so you can fast travel. Got the 100 shits in like 10 minutes.
lmao this was it, I never looted the ones near the station and once I did the ones in the park immediately respawned. Thanks.
lmao get fricked, I don't know what it is about this particular game, but an actual japanese tourist wouldn't take as many pictures as I do, and I accidentally got this achievement within the first ten hours.
just hang out at the beach beating people up. I saw one at the park too if you prefer to go there
I've taken several hundred selfies and I never got it naturally. At this point I'm saving it for my final trophy.
Damn. I saw like 4 in my 100ish hours without ever looking for them, I thought the 'trick' to that trophy was that you have to think of taking the picture when it happens.
Sounds like a nice final trophy, though, taking a final picture of the lads before wrapping it up
Just go to the beach and wait for a squall and it appears
I know, I'm just saying it's pretty easy not to get the trophy/achievement even if you're taking ridiculous amounts of pictures.
Is the Big Swell worth paying for?
CreamInstaller on PC.
It's basically post-game locked behind DLC. There are few unvoiced goofy scenes of the whole party after finishing every 5 stages of new dungeon.
Nope. The slice of life scenes are the best part and you can just watch those on YouTube.
Having just fully cleared it 5 minutes ago: Not really unless you want some decent boss fights early on and unvoiced fanservice scenarios that are pretty funny. I got roughly 4ish hours out of it in total. It's the same as the Hawaiian Haunt or the Yokohama Underground but in a medieval and Egyptian mixed theme while each floor also feels a bit shorter. There's also a lot of random empty rooms compared to the other two.
Your enemies are a mix of tier 1 to 3 enemies in groups of 3-5 and the exit of each floor is blocked by 2-3 miniboss enemies and 2-3 normal enemies. The bosses every five floors are the same deal as the FMT or TFMT did with reusing story bosses except they're way more damaging than they were in either of those. The downside is you can't save on the boss floor and once you get to like Sector 3 you're so overpowered that the bosses get like one turn to your six of 1600+ damage. It's ridiculous. The Game Master got a whopping two moves off before I killed him.
Your first clear rewards are simply stuff Kamulop gives you (War God Talisman being the best one) or crafting mats for the ultimate weapons. Suitcase rewards are job EXP items from both regions, health items, and stat boosters. I think the safe rewards are based off of the last HH/YU Sector you visited since I got only YU Sector 2 items six times. The store rewards are job level up books and crafting mats but the only things really worth it are the level up books because the amount of points you get even clearing an entire Sector is only like 4500.
The main purpose of it is to level and prepare you for NG+ since each fight gives you around 40k-500k EXP and JP and to also raise bond levels because you get like half a bar per fight, sometimes even a whole level up even at 80+. I entered Sector 3 with a level 1 Linebacker on Han and by the time I finished floor 15 he was level 50 in it with just one EXP item. Sector 5's basic enemies start by giving you 300k EXP.
>unvoiced fanservice scenarios that are pretty funny.
ur crazy i don't know what you're talking about
Past the five seconds of the beach intro, obviously.
does the poopy bat actually have applications or is it just a meme
It's objectively better than the True Legendary Hero's Bat. Put a Seal of Binding on it and now you blind basically everyone with almost all of your attacks, and since like 80% of enemies don't use magic that's way more useful than doing more electric damage when the enemy is on the ground.
Wait, are you serious? Why not go to Hawaii then? The mall has four toilets, you have two more on the beach, you have one or two near the train station in Yokohama, you have the ones in both bars, and I'm pretty sure there's a few others I'm drawing a blank on.
Oh yeah, the other mall has one or two toilets in it.
I'm pretty sure it won't count unless Kiryu is the leader just like the "kill 100 enemies as X job" ones don't count even if he is in your party when you're in Hawaii.
Kiryu and Ichiban share the poop, don't they? I remember that being marked off when I unlocked it. You can check and see if it counts for him.
Give me a sec, I'll check.
Yeah, nothing, looted the ones on the beach with Kiryu in the party, went back to Japan, it's still 9. So it's dungeon time.
Damn, that really sucks. Does PA let you make Kiryu the leader in Hawaii or is Ichiban forced as a leader?
Ichi leads in Hawaii, Kiryu leads in Japan.
>Majima, everyone's favorite
Did they say in the Livestream that the whole episode of RGG TV #27 would be uploaded with English subs later?
Whos gonna be the villain of RGG9?
More not-Yaluza gangs? Cops? Gnomes?
Daidoji
Kiryu got his name back already. Highly likely the daidoji let him go after the scandal resulted into their party getting the majority back. Everyone knows Kiryu is alive anyway thanks to the vtuber.
Some bastard within Daidoji will be the villain for reasons unrelated to Kiryu.
The Daidoji rep literally told the crew that Ichiban and friends are now on their radar in addition to the fact that they're run by the People's Liberation Party or whatever it's called which really holds no meaning outside of some stuff in 7. There's no reason to set any of that up, have Shishido and Nishitani III grabbed, and set up Ogikubo's granddaughter unless it's to make them the major villain in 9 so that Kiryu can actually have peace.
What's the over/under on more VTubers causing problems as the series goes on?
Daidoji.
can they at least find better looking people
They're probably the only ones on the team that speak English and could be bullied into doing this today.
Daidoji might come back if they view a chemo-surviving Kiryu as a risk that needs to go away. At the end they probably let him go thinking that he will not survive the cancer and that everything will get sorted out that way but it would make sense for some part of Daidoji to get incredibly nervous at the potential risk that Kiryu spills the beans and reveals all the Daidoji shit to the public. He sacrificed his identity for a reason.
Wouldn't surprise me if RGG9 takes place in Okinawa - atleast partially - with Kiryu trying to find peace only for Daidoji to show up and threatening him and the kids to cut all loose ends. Ichiban even mentioned that he would like to see the kids at some point. That and they could re-cycle a lot of the holiday/beach stuff from Hawaii.
>everything that should've happened in 8 will happen in 9
>this time for sure!
You'll get a dozen more filler episodes and you'll LIKE IT.
>Yokoyama is a ha....-ACK
>Selling weapon-grade nuclear material is the same as dumping spent nuclear waste
Yakuza fans are illiterate
High-res pics of the Last Supper so I can edit Sawashiro to be flipping off Ichi, when
Man chitose is such a horrible person.
She doesn't get enough flak for how selfish she is.
Her willingness and ability to change makes her not a horrible person.
She only decided to switch side at the literal last second and not like she decision made a difference. And all for what? To protect her Vtuber identity? Her sob backstory is even a fricking joke
>I grew up rich
>But my parents were strict
>So I decided to be a streamer
>poor me
She's young, and was in a position to make a selfish mistake that not many other people would ever be in. She fricked up and people got killed. The same can be said for the majority of this series' main cast. The only way she can atone for it is by continuing to live and choose to do the right things going forward. Her personality and recent actions have earned her the trust of Ichiban and company to not make a similar mistake again.
There's really no need to be such a homosexual about it.
Here is the thing. She made multiple selfish mistakes. At each step of the game, she had every opportunity to come clean. Even when she saw the seriousness of the entire situation, she knew people were getting murdered and killed. But she still chose to not tell the truth. She only decided to at the literal last minute where it didn't make a difference. And all to protect what? Her identity?
>And all for what? To protect her Vtuber identity?
She'd publicly aired the Fujinomiya's dirty laundry as that vtuber, so she was afraid of being disowned by her family and simultaneously exposed to the world. Although it's unclear due to an across-the-board lack of development for Eiji and his movements, it's also likely that Eiji filled her in on the fact that she's been telling lies that have destroyed the livelihoods of countless people, many of whom are former yakuza that would potentially hunt her down. The game definitely could have done a better job portraying her circumstances as more dangerous than an heiress losing her inheritance, but it's still among the least of this game's writing problems.
Writing goes to trash but she got the worst writing out of all the characters.
No, Eiji did. The only thing we get to explain his extreme de-humanizing hatred of Yakuza is "they set him up to lose his job" in one line that you'll miss if you yawn during an info dump.
I meant playable ones. If we are talking about all the characters, then yes the villians this time round was really fricking undercooked. Ebina as well.
>Here's this dramatuber that has access to lots of information she really shouldn't have and have been whistleblowing for years
>Daidoji somehow didn't immediately dox her
>The Vtuber was actually a girl
I was hoping it was a guy in disguise, so you get to beat the shit out of him as a boss while he's livestreaming.
>A disney executive is in charge of the future of Yakuza
It was a good run until 8, time to pack up shop boys.
What will 9 even be about?
It'll take place in Hokkaido as the less popular, but still common Ski Filler Episode
Kiryu is back, again!
Ichiban finds out about his 4th secret brother, he doesn't interact with him at all though.
also
>Eiji has complete control over the tatara channel, going as far as using an impersonator when Chisato was no longer willing to cooperate
>somehow Chisato can still use her account and livestream like nothing happened
is it just me or this doesn't make sense? maybe Eiji forgot to change the password...
That's kind of moronic but I figured the video website account was linked to Chitose's email, so changing the password would be futile. Of course at that point he might as well have demanded access to her email or else he'd expose her identity
She absolutely deserved what happened to her.
t. ogita
What in frick's name was Majima even thinking when deciding to marry her?
Man that just seemed like twist for the hell of it. like a lot of things in the series now that i think about it
i'm convinced majima's half of 0 was written entirely to retcon park out of existence by giving him oneitis for someone else
nah I think it's the opposite, they wrote Majima like that to give the player the idea that he is capable of love and might desire romance, but hides it under the Mad Dog.
Idol pussy too strong.
I've played Y5 4.5 times, do they ever even say? I honestly can't even remember if Park is brought up when you fight Majima. I think you do that as Saejima iirc. That whole end part never made much sense and never stuck with me.
Majima's feeling about Park are never really talked about from Majima's lips himself, In general the Majima/Park subplot feels the most tacked on and bloated thing from 5.
When 5 was a brand new game I wasn't even aware Majima was attracted to women, let alone would stick his dick inside one.
I started playing these games when 6 came out, and after playing 5, I just thought there was obviously going to be some kind of Y0.5 with Majima's wacky adventures in Sotenbori with Park. but they've moved so far away from that now, I don't think it will ever get mentioned again.
Although, after finishing 8 again, it really seems like Daigo, Saejima, and Majima were trying to say they were coming back into the limelight. That's the biggest hole in 8 for me because idk what it really means. They're going to help Ichiban out with the dissolution or they're going to get the gang back together? We're at an even more strange place with the background clans than at the end of 7.
>I honestly can't even remember if Park is brought up when you fight Majima
nope
that letter supposedly written by him in the safe is the only instance of majima ever acknowledging her
RGG has been very hands off about what characters did in the 90s for the most part. plenty of material to work with if they ever wish to come back to it.
Majima didn't really have too much backstory until 4 introduced saejima and turned him into a more serious character so him having friends (and even being married) aren't that jarring all things considered? It does feel weird if you started with 0 i guess.
Are you saying that you wouldn't marry an idol 10 years your junior?
>noooooooooo mitsu-chan! i believe in you! you might have done some bad things in the past but i believe you can change! we can get through this together!
Judgement 1 was peak kino
So how would Ichiban handle Kuwana, and the bullying problem?
I'd reckon he'd spend most of his time in the esports club
He would forgive Soma for killing Sawa
have a nice day already, secondary homosexual.
You know seeing all this ichiban posting reminds me of how insane HnK would be with its forgiveness, like people joke about Ichiban forgiving Hitler but Kenshiro fricking forgives Souther of all characters which becomes more bizarre when you realize that Kiryu is basically just Kenshiro but not in a nuclear wasteland.
Souther had a poor backstory pls understand, never mind all the slavery and abusive behaviour to basically everyone
Whenever I'm looking at Yakuza's silly apology moments I tend to compare it to that exact scene and go "But is this more extreme than forgiving Souther?" And so far it really hasn't fallen under that umbrella just yet. HnK is an amazing series that anyone should read but I can't pretend its perfect. And Yeah It's pretty silly for Ichiban to forgive Eiji considering how underdeveloped he was, but he also wasn't Souther. And it helps that Ichiban is less "everything is alright" and more "You can redeem yourself if you serve time" which is something that the funny ichiban forgiveness meme glosses over.
>Kiryu-san, I know you may want me dead right now, but despite your burning hatred towards me, I forgive you, Kiryu-san, because even IF I do die, my friendship with you will still linger with just as much strength as ever!
>actual plot from the game
>secondary
>don't worry about those innocent people you poisoned and killed, Ky-chan. After all that, you're still my pal
>ichi's character development in the next game comes from him trusting an obviously sketchy person, and it results in this person taking advantage of ichi and saeko being killed in the crossfire
>sa-chan only gets caught in the crossfire because she abruptly walked away from Itchy Balls again
A part of me genuinely wants this to happen, but at the same time I seriously would rather have Ichiban NOT inheriting Kiryu's moronic oneitis
I would rather they just quietly decide not to date, offscreen
Ichiban's in too deep now. He's got to prove he's not a perma-virgin like Kiryu.
I would much rather Ichiban be a permavirgin than have to endure any more absolute shit-tier romance and relationship drama like 8's.
Would Ichiban forgive Park-san?
>Mi-Chan, I know you manipulated my daughter into becoming an idol, which spiraled into me moving to another city, away from my friends and under a new identity, and I know this eventually led to my daughter exposing my identity to all of Japan, which also spiraled into me making the people closest to me believe I died for their own sake, but despite all that... I forgive you, Mi-Chan, I forgive you because no matter how much you might have hurt me, I would never turn my back on a true friend, that's how much you mean to me, Mi-Chan
>Yeah I heard about patriarch Dojima raping that Yumi girl, but I'm glad nobody shot him in an act of revenge, I know our patriarch is a good man underneath it all.
That ending cut scene for fake cripple boy was God awful.
They didn't even bother putting context behind it. Guess they really wanted to hammer the Ichiban x Jesus comparisons
There was a guy yesterday asking about Hammered Man and I found him in PA at night near Ichiban Confections. It was in the area where the Street Surfer charger is and he was among some Boozer Bruisers. For Demolitioneer (25) he was near Survive and this is what the encounter looked like. It doesn't have the guy with the head wrap in the initial group at all for some reason.
It looks like in 8 you get four points where enemies change up what is in groups and what level they are.
>Initial spawns.
>Each chapter from chapter 1 until chapter 8 will level up enemies and add new enemies to each location.
>Chapter 9 upgrades all the enemies on the map on both sides.
>PA upgrades all the enemies on the map on both sides and adds a bunch of lower tier enemies into the group.
It's me, since I just finished the Legend run I'll try now, makes sense they'd only spawn in PA with the amount of time I wasted trying to get him to spawn
kek I went there and it spawned Turncoat Titillator, the other one I was missing.
Kiryu is showing his age because his power level is directly correlated to absorbing Haruka's dicky juice. 2-3-4 was his peak, and in that time he doesn't age a day. Now he must find another source or perish.
LJ is overrated as frick. Kaito Files was OK but the main story and School Stories were ass
Gaiden was shorter but way more fun
>finish first on every mahjong table in three different cities
yeah no thanks
Casual. VF3tb and Spikeout twice were far worse.
Moose do you know where Han Joongi's armor spawns at? I've tried the Hawaii EX hunt frickton of times and nothing
The character exclusive armors are only in the story dungeons. I believe you get Joongi and Adachi's armors in the second-to-last dungeon first and then you'll get Chitose and Tomi's armors in the actual last dungeon (you can't get them until you're locked in to the final dungeon and you can only use them in Hawaii in Premium Adventure).
Allright thanks, I'm just getting every job to lvl.30 and then I'll continue the story.
Outside of Han's they're all extremely hard to miss and are literally either in front of you or in your way along the only path you can go. I almost missed Han's because the safe sort of blends in with the grating so be careful when you get near that area.
If you do miss them you can just get them from a specific pawn shop in Hawaii or Yokohama. Same with if you frick up the crafting weapon for that character's ultimate weapon from Drink Links.
Main character armors are all in safes in the main story dungeons except for Ichiban and Kiryu who have theirs in the HH and YU respectively. Specifically the penultimate ones and the final ones.
Eric and Adachi's are in District Five.
Han and Chitose's are on Nele Island.
Seonhee and Zhao's are in Tojo Clan HQ.
Saeko and Nanba's are in the Millennium Tower.
Picture related is where Han's is. It's on a lower grated area overlooking the guys praying at a sconce.
If you miss some in the story dungeons, they appear in shops afaik.
>Yakuza 5 completion in Sotenbori
>Akiyama is broke as frick
>Therefore, Haruka will down 300 bottles of laxatives and eat the entire city's worth of food
IMAGINE HOW FAT SHE'D GET FROM THAT
HA HA
Imagine how much she'd have to shit haha imagine being Kiryu and sharing the same bathroom with her haha
Better off doing that as Akiyama still, as Haruka can't drink.
Could someone sanity check something for me?
In Action Star is Boulder Breaker dealing more damage than Tiger Palm Strike? Because I'm dealing like 2200-2500 with BB while TPS is only like 1700-1800.
Not at my PC but doesn't Boulder Breaker crit with successful QTEs while TPS increases number of hits?
You're correct, but TPS says it's got "Extreme" damage despite three hits while BB says it's "Light" damage despite four hits. Maybe the crits really are that effective.
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I've been wondering for a while if it's worth making a 100% crit build for Desperado. 7* Weapon gives 30% per ailment and brand is 20%, so if you slap both ailments it'll be 100%. Then give it both ailment rate brands for reliability. Problem is, Desperado has (decent) magic so you'll want the magic crit brand too.
Maybe you can have another party member apply the 2nd ailment but by then you might as well just use action star + joongi for free crits.
Problem is that you would only have 100% crit for two turns in an ideal scenario where your second character does another one. Theoretically Ichiban with the poop bat could apply both poison + blind and you'd get three turns of 100% crit.
Does anyone else want to see a final Yakuza game set in +50 years from now? In a Kamurocho that has been decimated by the population collapse in Japan, leaving half of the buildings abandoned and decrepit. Seeing all of the arcades closed, and mostly just old people walking around. With all of the old yakuza being actual real-estate managers in their mid 50s rather than thugs.
Some parts of me sort of wants to see that game.
Didn't this guy get his brains blown out in 6?
Yes but no.
In 7, it's revealed he had a body double that went "unused"
yes but he is effectively immortal because there's a succession of body doubles that go through some ocelot liquid self brainwashing shit and become han joon-gi, except this one is a bro rather than a seething b***h
>Memoirs of a Dragon
>Cheeky easter egg cameos in Y7 became actual characters in 8
>This homie is an easter egg in 8
He's going to show up in 9.
I've gotten over Hanawa's death. I was legitimately VERY upset when it first happened and how the story treated it, but ehh, it matters very little in the grand scheme of things. Another case of Gaiden setting up great expectations with a plot point, only for 8 to mishandle it. I wouldn't have been so upset if Gaiden didn't exist.
At he'll permanently stay dead since he didn't have immediate access to superior Japanese healthcare.
Or will he?
>to superior Japanese healthcare.
Other way around, American healthcare is magical superpower-tier according to RGG.
He'll show up in LaD 12 as the mysterious owner of a bar in San Juan Capistrano called Absolve.
Okay, only missing three weapons now. I will not get the DLC weapons from the points shops because if the game doesn't track it it doesn't count for completion :^)
yeah but there's nothing else to buy with sujiman points
500th post for me claiming that Tomizawa is best boy and the best new character in IW.
i yam fishing my sell here
don't worry, he is being roved
yeah, a rest that cum bag
And he'll never appear of be mentioned again. He's the next Tanimura and Shinada.