>Yakuza should of ended here
Now that the dust have settled.
Can we all agree Yakuza should have ended here?
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>Yakuza should of ended here
Now that the dust have settled.
Can we all agree Yakuza should have ended here?
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they should have never made 7
Once the original creator left, everything went to shit. The characters, combat, and even dialogue in 7 were so horrendous I couldn't even finish it. The series ended with 6.
It's the same as it ever was. The biggest jump was the protag and the combat and both were fine. People who can't accept the change are just autistic.
Are you serious? They changed the entire game genre. Shit changed from a beat em up to yet another generic and boring turn based RPG. I'm not gonna act like the old combat was unique but it was way more fun than today's slop. In terms of the story, it was ok but I couldn't stand any of the new characters since you could tell from a glance that each of their personalities were designed in a corporate board room. Nothing new. Nothing unique. What a waste.
An entire paragraph and you managed to say nothing.
People couldn’t properly criticize to save their lives. It’s always the vague “It feels soulless” criticism which gets thrown a lot but never actually elaborated upon.
I gave you several valid points but your brain couldn't process them. Shame. have a nice day for me, would you?
Nothing valid about any of ‘em. 7 was far more creative and unique than any of the previous games.
Should have ended at 4 with Kiryu going back home to pound Haruka's tight and juicy dicky as God intended.
>should of
Never should of come here!
minus well
tpbp
Loved the ending and it worked really well as a send off with Kiryu being free to travel around the world whenever he wants while being sure his kids are well and they all know he's not really dead.
But Gaiden being the ending was never a possibility.
It should have ended with Y5.
Didn't play this game
Did him getting Worfed by nuclear waste happen during it?
sadly no. But it would be nice to have another Gaiden for the waste portion.
They can make it all spy shit with saboteurs and Daidoji hiding the truth
Weird how poorly this and 8 lineup, end of this one he's going on vacation for an indeterminate amount of time and he says he has other shit to do first but plans to make Hawaii his last stop, but then at some point he just goes to work at the nuke plant and has to take a job to go to Hawaii anyway, like did the teams not coordinate stories?
Also Kiryu was really concerned for Hanawa's well-being in Gaiden, especially even he's about to get shot during the "execution/punishment" but in IW he kinda shrugs off Hanawa's death like it wasn't a big deal.
I take it as him going on vacation for some time but being unable of fully enjoying his time off so as soon as he hears about the nuke waste business he starts working there to be useful and then he gets cancer and go to Hawaii.
He said something like Hawaii being his last stop at the end of Gaiden, so I guess it wasn't his top priority even when it was the most meaning place he wanted to go in his travels.
But yeah overall pretty poor comunication between the teams writing both games.
Well, keep in mind that Covid is canon in-universe, so unless the Daidoji pulled a Beautiful Eyes and unleashed a secret jet to fly him somewhere (Which I don't think they did considering they basically sent him out with fake passports and told him to go have fun) he had to wait 2020 to 2022 in Japan itself.
Good point, I guess that's a valid option to why he chose to start working there instead of staying on the temple and not being able to leave Japan.
They should've just said he had lung cancer for smoking for 30+ years. I have no idea why they had to contrive that stupid nuclear waste scenario. That way, if they still don't want to outright kill him off, they can say he at least had to have a lung removed or something and can no longer fight
>I have no idea why they had to contrive that stupid nuclear waste scenario.
Because real life tobacco brands are sponsored in their games. Yagami smokes a real type of cigarettes and so does Kiryu. They also sort of push you to the "Lung cancer" direction by saying "Well, he could have got it from anywhere haha".
Do you have a fricking alarm in your head that goes off when there's a Yakuza thread?
I literally NEVER bothered even looking at the brand of the cigarettes being smoked in these games or any other. I just see a carton of them being whipped out and them taking them out of it and that's it. It's just a box to me. There's no fricking way that sort of branding marketing actually works. You don't just suddenly think better of a brand cause you see someone you might like using it.
It's not big tobacco sponsorships (though it might be),
It's just in Japan, smoking being linked to Lung Cancer is considered propaganda.
Look up something called "japanese smoking paradox"
Smoking is less harmful than slop.
it will 1000% give you COPD. that is a fact.
Wait what? I would've guessed it came from being constantly sprayed with bullets if anything.
Shinada and Nishitani still alive, I dont think they can get rid of Daidoji shit, Judgment dudes appeared.... Taiga, Majima, Daigo still alive..... stage is set for the biggest sequel with a huuuuge cast or.... huge failure. 🙂
There is literally no more Yakuza in the current Yakuza timeline. Daidoji is the only club people can join, it also allows for cities and settings outside of Japan
Yomei is still about
Aren't they basically just a Daidoji subsidary?
>Yakuza 9
>Yomei Alliance announces the Third Great Dissolution
>it's just another conspiracy to control Japan and Ichiban has to help a 60 year old weakling Kiryu who has yet to see his family in Okinawa
why would shinada die?
>Y2's kino ending completely ruined by Y3
>Y4's kino ending completely ruined by Y5
>Gaiden's kino ending completely ruined by IW
Nothing new here. They will never let Kiryu retire.
>tfw Y3, Y5, and Gaiden are the same C-team
that's just frickin karma
>Y2's kino ending completely ruined by Y3
Kaoru was a dumb love interest and writing her out in favor of taking Kiryu in a different direction(focusing on him more as a father) is better
>Y4's kino ending completely ruined by Y5
4's ending is not kino, 4 in general is not kino, it is the worst one. The only thing 5 ruins about 4's ending is having Saejima get expelled from the Tojo Clan again and having to come back
>Gaiden's kino ending completely ruined by IW
this is true and I don't even know how the hell they managed to do this considering Gaiden was written AFTER 8, they literally knew where the story was going and messed it up
>4's ending is not kino
Kiryu finally deciding to finally stop running away and go back to the Tojo to help them rebuild was great and opened up many possibilities for future stories. Instead, he abandoned them again come Y5.
5 in general deciding to ignore 4's events has been one of the biggest mistakes in the series.
The thing is, this element is barely part of the story since Kiryu himself is barely part of the story. If anything, Haruka is objectively correct when she calls him out for being so willing to go back and help when Hamazaki shows up
Kiryu being obsesed with the idea of him ruining the life of people he loved just because of his status as a legendary Yakuza and wanting to run away so everyone can be safe is a more interesting arc for his character than just going back to Tojo and having to fight random people trying to take over or frick the entire organization like we had been seen over and over again until that point.
And taking into consideration how far this idea has taken us, ending with him admiting his past mistakes while wanting to go on and live to be with his friends and family, I'd say it was the right way. Even if there have been really weird choices in how it was developed.
finally someone actually played 4 all the way through. It is the best ending in the series and it would have been perfect if they never made 5. They still could have made zero and never made 5.
Glad more and more peoples see through the memes of LUL MUH RUBBER BULLET IT'S SO DUMB GUYZ and are able to appreciate the story
it would be great, having a mentor acting like a real hardened criminal yet having a soft parental side. Kiryu is fun and all talking about starring down pigeons but he's still too much of a goody two shoes to be an interesting and refreshing mentor. I pray their idea down the line is to rebuild the Tojo clan, alongside Sawashiro.
>writing her out in favor of taking Kiryu in a different direction(focusing on him more as a father) is better
You can have the exact same thing with Kaoru there, and the fact that they've spent years ignoring and pussyfooting around her existence is idiotic because they both clearly loved each other and she literally left him by saying she'd come back.
>they both clearly loved each other
Mutual attraction, interpersonal bonding, and love are all very different things. Kiryu wouldn't be able to commit even if circumstances hadn't pulled them apart on account of Yumi still being an open wound and Kaoru being very career-driven on top of being on opposite ends of society. Yakuza 2 was simply written as a standalone story with very little continuity from the first in terms of character and was very short-sighted in terms of later games.
>fun game overall
>story ridiculously bad
Welcome to the Yakuza series. The further you go, the more plot holes, blatant gaps, and genuinely sloppy writing there is. Just learn to cope with it or blatantly ignore it, but you will never unsee it. Just don't get too attached to the characters like me.
Bruh can we get another Majima game?
I despise what IW did to Majima. He's brought back only to make Kiryu look good, then they appear at the end for 3 minutes to do frick all. When did Majima and especially Saejima become such jobbers?
He still looks better than in he did back in 85
Gaiden 2.0, we'll see how all three of them lost their business and ended up living in the shack.
>Mutual attraction, interpersonal bonding, and love are all very different things.
Sure, but they established that it was far more than just mutual attraction and interpersonal bonding, especially with the scene at the start of 3. Even if you want to take 2 in a vacuum the entire date shows you it's more than just a one-off fling.
>but is it kinda like a Star Wars Prequel sorta thing
Yes. You can start with it but it's an anniversary game and it ignores explaining stuff tied to Majima and just expects you to know certain aspects of his character. It also expects you to understand that none of the characters built up in 0 matter as much as 0 makes it seem because 1 already happened, it's just there to give them a backstory.
With one date and one kiss, that's hardly more than a tentative beginning to a relationship. It's still in its budding phases and has plenty of time to be excised before it can take root. Plenty of time for second-guesses and taking inventory. To call it love is a stretch. I'd say the same about Yumi and Kiryu, since their love was more familial than it was romantic and neither acted upon it until literal dying breaths.
>tourists on an amatuer hindi geologist forum
>playing anything made before 2010
> with one date and one kiss
I read that as Kiryu kissing Date
>that's hardly more than a tentative beginning to a relationship.
Sure, but the way Kaoru herself was talking about it it sounded way more serious than a basic fling.
Moose, my dear friend, I'm afraid that people say a lot of things that sound serious but are never followed up on. Especially ehen it comes to a kinda-sorta-are-we? relationship like theirs and especially when it comes to hopefuls. Please tell me I'm just shit at communicating this and that you're not actually this naïve?
I know I'm just butting in, but why are you assuming that Kaoru's character and her relationship with Kiryu have any amount of depth? The writing in yakuza isn't known for its subtlety; what you see is what you get. Injecting your own views and experiences from real life into the canon just doesn't work, because the writers never planned for these events to be of consequence in the future
My own autism really. 1-4 has a nice continuity of character that genuinely could have gone somewhere had 5 not been so terribly disconnected, so plastering the gaps with a bit of reason is fun. I also blame this on having mtl'd too many japanese fanfictions.
I'm absolutely understanding what you're saying, but I'm myself saying that we saw their relationship grow throughout 2, we saw it "get serious" in their date, and 3 further established they were still in some sort of romantic relationship since 3's intro had to have been a minimum of several weeks after 2 (Due to the funerals and all). It wasn't just some minor thing for fun, however it spontaneous it may have been. She also continues to send him care packages all throughout 3.
We can say that they drifted apart which they did, but in the context of both 2 and 3 they were clearly going somewhere in terms of a relationship and they both reciprocated. That's for in-game explanations. For outside explanations we already know the only reason it was never expanded upon or called back to after 3 was because Yokoyama thought of Kaoru as a forgettable NPC and was confused when western fans kept pestering him about their relationship when he viewed it as a "Bond Girl" thing.
Funerals, mountains of paperwork, and a ten year old child breathing down your neck isn't the ideal vehicle to keep speeding off to the love shack with. Especially when the last development was an emotional, solemn and rather spontaneous moment spurred on by the belief of imminent death. They may have been over the hump, but they still have a lot to go before it can really be considered a deep relationship, and of course, it was never that serious if they could simply call it quits like that without any real strings attached. effectively the adult equivalent of a middle school girlfriend. You mess around for a bit but never really get anywhere. And then you both move on to the next chapter of your lives and are torn apart. I would hazard to call it truly substantial in any meaningful regard.
The thing is that Kaoru viewed it as such considering she spent something like 15 years doing nothing but thinking about him. It may have been short but it doesn't come off as puppy love. It's more that they were sort of forced in their own directions. You also have to remember that Kiryu is selfless, so he himself pushed her to follow her yume even if she was reluctant.
>I don't even know how the hell they managed to do this considering Gaiden was written AFTER 8
it means they were writing backward then, moron. Hanawa is "treated" badly because he wasn't supposed to be someone you gays got attached to and why the Daioduji faction is "barely" a thing in IW, it's why shit like the few reunions he does get are here, and not in Gaiden.
which means nothing, people lose contact despite their intentions all the time. They even said that's the in-universe explanation for Tanimura.
Except 8 specifically also has Kaoru still thinking about Kiryu all these years later. So she still kept wanting to do it that whole time.
The games should have all been their own thing, they are gonna keep bringinging him back for 10 more games. Just make it like FF, similar themes but everytime new map and new characters.
Its pretty clear it was supposed to be only 1 and 2, after that it should have a new city and new characters but they couldn't let go of older characters so now here they are qith a 10 part story that makes keep making bigger and bigger excuses to bring the characters back.
Didn't they delete Kaoru out of existence because her actress refused to have sex with the producer at Sega or something? I heard that Nagoshi used to whine about her having a "toxic personality" which in this situation (knowing Japanese industry) can mean a lot
what do you know about Japanese industry
I know that a lot of voice actresses are forced to ride a dick just to get a role. Women are much less respected when it comes to work culture in Japan overall compered to the west
This isn't Street Fighter 2, this is anal sex
do you know personally know someone who went through that or did you learn that from watching bunch of javs
Pretty big thing going on right now in Japan regarding downtown matsumoto and his own casting couch. It's not unreasonable to assume that all the pretty ladies getting voice acting gigs are also getting in through the same means.
>Endo gets raked over the coals every year for cheating on his wife.
>It was actually Matsumoto and Hamada who were cheating on their wives regularly the whole time.
To be fair, Endo was also cheating on his wife.
And Yamazaki.
Tanaka's the only true pure one, he got cheated on BY his wife though.
That's what I mean. Endo got a massive amount of crap for it with years of segments specifically targeting him about it. They did laugh at Hamada doing it like two years before they stopped but holy crap did they have it out for Endo.
To be fair, besides being a perv, Endo doesn't have much else, he has funny tsukkomis but doesn't have the presence (either by his fault or just editing, see him (jokingly) complaining on kiki that they never give him his screen time) to make them funny.
If you start paying attention you'll start to notice he's the kid whose joke gets repeated louder by someone people like more.
Him being a massive perv also in real life really played into his one gimmick and to be fair, they got really good milleage on it, the trial scene is still one of the funniest batsu moments.
>the trial scene is still one of the funniest batsu moments.
I'm partial to most of the stuff in Nurse myself. Also "That is the spitting image of young Suga in battle". Slays me every time.
I'm very partial to early batsu, my uncontested number one is the police 2005 one.
Moving to full cast batsus was a mistake.
anon that's the same exact situation as Weinstein and the whole Japan wouldn't make a big deal about it to a point Matsumoto had to quit if shit like that was normal
stop being horny and have a critical thinking
>I found the wienerroach in my room therefore all the wienerroaches are gone.
Doesn't that apply to Weinstein as well?
I'm not claiming that it never happens, it was more about how anon was originally saying that its more normal in Japan compared to the west when west also has the same exact issues
I learn it from the television and internet news
She wasn't even playing it's still on attract mode
Tummy erotic
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> There was a news about Japanese funny man doing casting couch
> Then Nagoshi must be doing the same thing
Isn't that bit of a reach for a pretty serious accusations?
I mean it's no secret. It's a pretty known fact about Jap VA industry in the last 20 years or so. You have a ton of cases like Aya Hirano who sucked dick left and right and then fricked all the members of her band just to feel more control over her life
idk how Aya Hirono confirms Nagohi being a sex pest but ok
she's one of the cases that prove that people within the industry in Japan can give roles to female VAs only if they sleep with them first, el morono. she only got to play famous roles because she was willing to suck the right dicks. there's hundreds of cases like this
NTA, and I don't know about voice acting, but if work in sales in a big Japanese corpo and are a woman, you'll probably have to ride some dicks to close a deal at some point - happened to 2 of my friends here. One decided to quit instead and the other rode the dick, because the guy was young and kinda handsome, according to her and she was already a massive bawd anyway.
What is even going on in that video? Is that sex?
Code. Now. I'm not asking.
There's no code my fellow brother amigo. Ushijima Iiniku does exclusively soft core stuff unfortunately
I guess I'll kill myself then. Haruka sex anon never puts out his sauce. Now this isn't even real JAV? With pits like those?
Believe me when I say that some tasteful gravure models who find a way to be sexually appealing without being straight up prostituteS are the true Goddess of the ero world. There's still a chance for (You) to open your eyes my young padawan
Stop posting my wife without my consent
Anon, your wife grabbed my best friend's (6'5" white) hand and put it on her bare ass while he was taking a photo with her at an event. He didn't even know who she was.
Kaoru got removed because Nagoshi wanted Yakuza to remain a quirky gangster series. Her sticking around and having some kind of romance with Kiryu wasn't in his interest.
The new guy in charge- Yokoyama - actually wanted Kaoru to stay with Kiryu for Yakuza 3 and have some kind of romance plot instead of the orphanage stuff.
Uh, why couldn't they have both the romance and orphanage happening at once?
Because the director said no.
am till miffed by 4's ending getting ruined. It was setting up a great arc for Saejima alongside Kido and Kiryu stopping running away and leaving everything to Daigo
's kino ending completely ruined by IW
Gaiden ends with Kiryu on his way to Hawaii... and that's exactly what happens in IW. How does IW ruin Gaiden's ending?
Gaiden's ending is Kiryu finding peace that everyone is moving on and he should too
Looks like you missed the final cutscene bub
it should have ended with Nagoshi leaving the company, which is exactly when normies discovered the series.
>by the time 9 arrives Majima will be 60+
Oh god
And he'll still somehow be more flexible than the average human being.
No. have a nice day.
I don't remember doing that?
>new legend snuffed out in his crib before his time arrives because the yakuza were on their way out
Too based for Infinite Wealth. With how they treated Hanawa I imagine him, the pervert guy, and the Daidoji butthole all get lame ass deaths later on
>lame ass deaths later on
I think the opposite.
Shishido and Nishitani are gonna be the new protagonists.
It's going to be some contrived plot where they need to find Kiryu to assassinate him. The two have no leads so they go around his old haunts and find his friends/people he helped. Slowly they piece together more and more of the life of the legendary Dragon of Dojima, subtly changing how they view him.
Fast forward to them eventually finding him only to see the man they were looking for bound to a wheelchair a decrepit old man, a shell of what he once was.
Shishido has a change of heart while plastic asiatic doesn't because he's an evil Korean from Worst Corea. Cue epic duel between two former allies.
Then Kiryu stands up from his wheelchair rejuvenated--looking thirty years younger--and tells Shishido, "You're like a dragon". Fade to black. Credits roll.
we need more blonde prostitutes in yakuza games
So will Ichiban be picking Ei-chan up from prison and have him as a party member in the next game? Or will he disappear forever like Baba-chan?
If the first thing happens I will stop playing these games.
I'm ok with Ichiban being fricking dumb and doing what he does at the end because of his personality but this would be too much.
You'd rather Ichiban be a liar? If he can't keep his word when it comes to things like that, his whole character falls apart.
Not at all. I love Ichiban and I fully understand why he acts that way.
I just hope that Eiji gets killed in prison so we never have to worry about him ever again
it should have ended with 2. every game after that is "well, it should've ended before this, but it's fine if they stop here too." But they just keep going.
Kiryu looked like a skeleton at the end. It’s safe to assume they’re gonna let the man rest and focus 100% on Ichiban, right..?
Ichiban and the overall story doesn't really have anything to build off of. No more Yakuza, Kiryu secret out. Are we going to fight like CIA agents or some shit? Bring in the Triads in a bigger way than before? Judgement 3 is next, lets them do a smaller scale story without any ties into anything.
>here is some bullying shit with serial killing
>here is some serial killer shit and a story about a hospital conspiracy
Compared to secret giant castles, battleships and treaties, or an entire island being nuclear waste disposal.
I mean, Lost Judgment had the RK which came outta nowhere. Suffice it to say, they could always just pull new gangs out of the ether for the protagonists to fight against if need be.
This series has a history of ignoring the previous game's ending.
If they have any integrity left, they'll let the man live out his final years in peace instead of roping him into more bullshit because they're incapable of lettimg him go. I think we all know what the answer will be though.
>Mecha Shishido shows up
>Shishido: "YOU TOOK EVERYTHING FROM ME"
>Ichi: "I don't even know who you are"
would actually be kino
That's what I expect. In the next game, I hope he will be convalescing and unable to contribute to combat even if he wants to. He can either play a support role or Ichiban and co. can say "we need to do this without Kiryu" and then refrain from bringing him in.
Kiryu's gonna become the new regular kidnapping victim like Haruka before him. It's like pottery.
The fangirls will love it.
Either it's their way of justifying why Kiryu can't fight going forward or they'll just ignore it and pretend that a 60 year old who barely survived cancer was able to bulk back up to how he was in his prime.
Or they make more prequels.
They can milk secret agent Kiryu or young Kiryu set between 0 and 1
We're gonna get another Ishin-esque game in a new time period so we can get not-Kiryu
Ichiban in a straight up fantasy game would be great.
>Kenzan/Ishin style game based on Japan's mythology with Ichiban playing a role like Kintaro or Yamato Takeru
Do it.
>secret agent Kiryu
I find it very hard to believe that they based Gaiden all around the secret agent theme only for it to be a one off.
But then again, they killed Hanawa
I seriously doubt they know what they're doing with the Daidoji.
Seems as a way they found to bring back Kiryu after 6 but never really planned anything interesting for the organization and it shows.
Maybe RGG can do something useful with that plot and have them be the villains in 9, with the focus on politics the last few games have had it would be a logical progression.
If they're gonna do a Daidoji-specific game focused entirely on the government and forcing its downfall and restructuring then it should be a crossover game with Judgment considering Yagami took out both the Ministry of Health and Public Security exposing their corruption while Ichiban took down Ryo Aoki and the people surrounding him. You can make it a JRPG because Yagami and his friends are literally a JRPG party who constantly team up. Have Hayashi join his team later and make the team Yagami/Kaito/Sugiura/Tsukumo.
The downside of such a game is that every single thing going forward is going to have to revolve around it because of how embedded the Daidoji are in Japanese politics and their laws. They effectively have to overhaul it all.
A crossover featuring both an Ichiban party with turn-based combat and a Yagami party with brawler combat would be amazing.
Could even be a good way to close both stories when they get bored of them. A final game bringing all characters together for a final adventure and then move on to a new protagonist.
I'd rather have Yakuza 9 and Judgment 3 before that tho.
Haruto will be the next protagonist once he grows up.
Is this the last moment i'll have to play with Kiryu's party?
Does the game have a premium adventure mode so I can play with both parties once i'm done?
No. You're explicitly told when you reach the endgame that this is the last time for you to clean up loose ends.
Premium Adventure merges the two parties and gives you full access to all three cities so you don't actually have to finish everything beforehand.
No, kiryu has his own dungeon and final boss in chapter 14
>もう寒くない is translated to 'I'm too warm'
Really? Took all the fricking impact out of the statement.
Wouldn't something like "I'm no longer cold" / "It's no longer cold in here" work better here?
I think they are going for a mirror of the statement he's been saying rather than just saying "I'm no longer cold." Like since he says he was feeling too cold, changing that too "It was too warm anyway" to show things changed serves as another way of showing he's changed.
I thought the same thing, but you have to take into consideration what he had said before in the English subs. But I do agree that something else would have been more fitting.
What would've made Kiryu's story more interesting in an attempt to bring him back post-6 would've been showing why it was a necessary decision for Kiryu to "die." You could still make Gaiden work that way, as Shishido, while being representative of the end of the Yakuza organization, could've also been representative of the fact that Yakuza, the series as we knew it, had to end. Gaiden serving as an exaggerated and condensed version of a lot of the same plot shenanigans he's gotten into in the past and realizing that he's already falling back into the world he tried to get away from and rejects it and needs to allow the Yakuza to end just like how his story had to end.
It’s kinda funny how you play most of the game as Ichi but Kiryu somehow still steals the show, or at least that’s how I felt playing his last couple chapters
no shit, its literally the last time we play as kiryu
>its literally the last time we play as kiryu
Ichiban gets stuck with most of the main plot and the main plot is a filler beach episode so that's not surprising. His shtick is already tired and old too, and the game treats him like a joke half the time. Also got annoying when the game kept lobotomizing everyone else just so he could say something obvious and pretend to be smart. Like no shit you should look for the boats heading to the mystery island
No more Kiryu ffs, just let the guy have a happy ending and live with his family already.
Maybe have Ichiban and friends traveling to Okinawa to meet him as some sort of (real) epilogue for Kiryu's story at the beginning of 9 but the series cannot keep draggin him around anymore.
>give the guy cancer and a somewhat ambiguous happy ending in the same game
How am I supposed to feel about this?
>Ei-chan lives
>The Young Master died
Ei-chan did less damage during his stint as a villain. He's literally "the Masato that Ichiban could actually save".
Masato deserved better
masato is fiendishly handsome. both when he was ryo and masato
they wasted Will Yun Lee on him instead of Kiryu in the dub
>Tries to get innocent woman and child killed
>Laughs about how funny he thinks it is
>Helps multiple murders take place across Japan and Hawaii
Eiji was a shit character and Ichiban rushing to his rescue after all of his antics was garbage.
Funny because IW is a much better final game for Kiryu than 6 ever was, but they fricked up the ending itself because of stubbornly refusing to give players proper closure. Kiryu not meeting Haruka and Haruto at the end feels like a smug and condescending gesture from the director more than anything.
>Funny because IW is a much better final game for Kiryu than 6 ever was
>because [all the reasons it isn't]
homie proofread your shit
>should of
You should have learnt English before posting
Like a Dragon: Gaijin Gaiden
a white guy in his 40's takes his parents to japan for a vacation but when they see some guy (villain) treating a woman (prostitute/secret korean?) poorly, he (ex-boxer/mma/military/generic tough guy?) and his father (tough as frick old man™) step in to beat ass but the guy calls in a bunch of mooks that the pair wipe the floor with them but villain guy pulls a gun to shoot main character but dad takes the bullet (non-lethally), dad is in hospital and woman of interest is missing so white guy has to infiltrate the SEEDY UNDERBELLY of japan, cue the silly bullshit, white guy getting help from gary buster holmes, figuring out how to pull your shirt off with one hand, studying his japanese (which starts off terrible but gets better as you progress through the game) and finally getting a full back tattoo from utabori (choice of badass north american animal, bull moose, bald eagle, third option?) three fighting styles: street fighter (balanced), scumbag (fast, eye-pokes, nut shots) and pro wrestler (slow, powerful, grabs, throws, etc.)
This might have been a sub story in lost judgment
You do have all of them, right?
PS2 1 is a much faster game to get through than Kiwami, even if your taste is lacking enough that you prefer the remake.
what the frick is wrong with the balancing in this game
>grind the Kiryu party to Lv 39 in chapter 8
>Zhao gets into the party at Lv 31
>game introduces Yokohama Underground explicitly for farming Zhao
>all enemies in the first floor are Lv 43
>go to Kamurocho
>all mini bosses and Hero Missions have Lv 40 enemies
WHAT THE FRICK
>the folder isn't called RGG STUDIOS
>no Binary Domain in sight
shame on you
Everything but BP2, PS2 1 and 2, PS5 LJ and 8, and a physical copy of Binary Domain (I have it digitally on both PS3 and PC but plan on grabbing a physical at some point). I'm too lazy to sell my CN copy of Gaiden but I'll get around to it eventually.
what happened to steelbooks anyway
They just did one for Ishin Kiwami which is the one on the top-left, it's weird 8 didn't have one. I think it might be because Best Buy wants out of physicals and they always shelfwarmed, but LJ's was through Gamestop if I remember right because I had to shift my pre-order so I don't think that theory holds water.
your Wii U 1+2?
Might get it for the novelty, I haven't decided yet. Probably will if a translation patch happens since I'm not doing 1 or 2 in Japanese again.
>Steam
You don't have them either.
>Buying something you can get for free
What an butthole
anon that's Black person behavior
>Y0
>YK
>YK2
>Y3
>Y4
>Y5
>Y6
>I AM HERE
>J
>Y:LaD
>LJ
>LaD:I
>LaDG
>LaD:IW
they're making these games faster than I can play them what is this shit
J3 next right?
hope so, LJ played like a dream
Kiwami 3, and then a Taisho spinoff, then another anime adaptation (AKIRA ga Gotoku), and then Yakuza 9
Judgment dead in the fricking grave as per usual
I want historical spinoff with Ichiban, please. Also doesn't the game tease with Akiyama's mysterious adventure?
Should i do the animal crossing game in chapter 6 or do i unlock better stuff for it after clearing the main game?
"You will become a Sujimon Master."
>man who erased his name
>still has a name
Yet he still has both.
>don't bother change his appearance besides the shades so everyone who knows who Kiryu is instantly recognizes him
Why even
>loses his name
>nowhere to go
>keeps on loving you
how does he do it?
It seems people agree. Turn-based Yakuza fricking sucks. It's not even in global top sellers.
Anon-chan, IW is their biggest launch on steam by a landslide. Even with the series' boost in popularity within the last several years, Yakuza has never been a breakout top-seller on Steam.
>Ishin
>lower peak than 3
I reached the final chapter and just started the Giant Shark fight.
MAKES ME WISH FOR A NEW ECCO GAME GODDAMMIT
SEGA MAKE A NEW ECCO GAME
YOU ALREADY HAVE A 3D MODEL OF A GIANT SHARK
DO IT
same sa ne same yo same na no yo
Also will Ecco ever be playable in a future LAD game?
Isn't it way too long of a game to be included? All the SMS games were just short arcade ones and everything else has just been available at an arcade.
Yakuza should have ended with 6.
agreed
Filthy semi-public sex with Ichiban
>Kiryu's memory lane has random NPCs and Oda(kinda based ngl)
>But no Mine or Kuze
Who the frick is the new writer?
Kiryu shitting on Oda and calling him a bastard in his flashback was hilarious. 0’s biggest story flaw was trying to make a human trafficker sympathetic.
Yakuza are all trashbags, anon. Kiryu has no high-ground when he looks up to a murderer and hypocrite like Kazama. What he means is that Oda in spite of being a human trafficker. Like even in casual banter, Oda was a prick. I'm happy IW acknowledged that at least.
I reached the giant squid boss .
No wonder some of you guys mentioned this game has vore.
ONCE AGAIN, IT'S PERFECT FOR A NEW ECCO GAME
Dual-uzi Bryce makes me laugh.
This shit is an addiction to Kiryu at this point
>when saeko mentions shinji
gut punch
Why does Han have a wallet on his shirt
It's merely a fashionable pocket.
Ryo Aoki and Shishido are two of the best antagonists Yakuza came up with...and they follow it up with Bryce and Ebina. What the hell were they thinking?
Bryce was a Saturday morning cartoon villain with a plan that even the other villain acknowledges made no sense. Even a 10 year old would think "um, what happens when the nuclear waste gets too big for the island?". There isn't even a satisfactory answer for it.
Ebina looked like a genuine homosexual who had never thrown a punch in his life, and was absent for almost the entire game. He had no story presence whatsoever, and no connection to Kiryu at all (the game doesn't even tackle the fact that he and Ichiban are genuine brothers)
IW was a fun game overall but the story was ridiculously bad.
dont expect tomokazu fukushima levels of intelligence from the writing here
Bruh when u play in Japanese and the motherfricker appears in the first scene and ENGRISH holy fricking shit. Who the frick in RGG approved that shit?
Shishido even having a full character arc in such a short game like Gaiden was shocking coming from RGG.
I was kind of hoping for the antagonists to be more... antagonizing.
In the entire series we have about 1 (one(singular)) villain who is truly villainous and antagonistic, and he's one of the highlights of a middling game that flip-flops between being shit and incredible every five minutes.
I love what Zero did for him but despise what everything since has done. Within one game he went from an interesting character with layers and a smattering of tragedy to the crossdressing comic relief designed to appeal to fujos and homosexuals and pad a 10-hour game into a 20-hour one.
Yes, it is a prequel to 1-5, and is followed up by Kiwami and Kiwami 2. If you only want to play agame or two, then go the normie route and play 0, Kiwami, Kiwami 2, or start with Kiwami. If you're actually looking to get into the games and aren't some underaged homosexual, then dig out that PS2 or emulator and boot up the original 2005 Yakuza.
there couldnt be a more gaygier thing tto do than starting with yakuza kiwami.
Bryce and Ebina are great... on paper.
They both challenge Ichi's obsession with Arakawa.
One shows what happens when you blindly believe in some one. The other shows damagr that Arakawa done.
too bad it didn't go anywhere, Arakawa is still basically Jesus
So why even have Kiryu if this is the route they were going? Kiryu has no connection to Arakawa and their attempts to justify it are just kind of lame.
>I could've led the tojo all those years ago, but i didn't, so everything that's ever gone wrong with the yakuza before and after, like what Arakawa did to you are my responsibility to apologize for!
I am pleasantly surprised that Yamai survived. He and Tomi were easily the best things about this game. Also Seonhee. I don't remember her having a character before this, but she's really fun.
>Yamai
I can't tell if he's based or not.
Honestly, he skirts the line
>Architect
>Koyasu
>Sick design
>Majima-esque fighting style
>Old school Yakuza
On the other hand
>Simp for the worst kind of woman
>Jobs the whole game
>Tomi
He won't be back. His voice and model are based on a very popular singer. I doubt they'll fork out the cash to bring him back.
they bring akiyama's va in all the time though.
People said this about Nanba
To be fair, up until that point the only face actor to ever reprise his role was Baba in Ishin and Yagami in Lost Judgment.
never played a Yakuza game before.
Obviously I should start at 0 but is it kinda like a Star Wars Prequel sorta thing (Being that the prequels were no intended at the time the originals came out and clearly make things worse?)
If not then Zero it is. If yes, then what should I play?
If you are bothered start from PS2 Yakuza 1
If you don't care and fine with just playing the remake of 1 and 2 then start from 0 since remakes (kiwami) are made with 0 in-mind
Zero and 1/2(ps2) are fine because you can take those as their own coherent stories. After that it becomes a mess where they keep trying to justify bringing the character back one last time but for real this time.
> Yakuza should've ended at 5
> Yakuza should've ended at 6
> Yakuza should've ended at Gaiden
> Yakuza should've ended at 8
> Yakuza should've ended at 9
This is the reason why Kiryu never retires
arro
LaD Gaiden: Mine craft adventures when
ish it me yurr rooking forr?
Mine dying and Richardson surviving is lowkey another fricking terrible addition to IW and spits on 3's ending. Please, this writer should just focus on Ichiban's shit and leave the past characters behind.
did yokohama write gaidens story?
>Mine, Nishiki, and Ryuji are Kiryu's greatest rivals
Essence of Remembrance was cool.
his greatest dead rivals, anon.
I didn't see any bodies.
it's alright
>Nishiki was his bro
>Ryoji and Mine made an extremely strong impression on him
It's kinda sad how the greatest fights of Kiryu's life were frontloaded into the first three games. No one's ever really been able to get on their levels. Daigo specc'd too hard into GUN so whenever he's not holding one, his performance drops heavily. What's-his-name could barely keep up with Kiryu who was handicapped from getting shot in the gut and was bleeding out the entire fight. And the glasses guy was just a joke.
Someone didn’t play Gaiden.
Ebina is weaker than Mine. No one has ever been able to push Kiryu as hard as Mine did.
Someone got their games mixed up.
And no, Saejima was the only character who ever gave Kiryu trouble in a fight. Kiryu fought an army’s worth of goons and a fake CIA agent on his way to Mine, so he wasn’t exactly performing at his peak by the time he got to Mine.
>Kiryu fought an army’s worth of goons
He literally wasn't even out of breath. Kiryu does this every fricking game. Unless we are told he's tired, he isn't.
if retcons count then I'm pretty sure Majima canonically beat Kiryu the first time you fight him in Yakuza Kiwami since it's a supposed to lose fight
>but you can technically beat him
yeah but it's clearly intended that you lose to him and that's probably the canon version
not canon
I miss major antagonists that were basically Kiryu but what if evil, instead of just evil scheming man that has no personal impact on Kiryu what so ever
but I guess you can't have too much of them or else it kind of starts to get ridiculous
This is one of the reasons why Shishido and Aoki are actually good villains while IWs are not. Aoki is a template that has been done before in Mine and Nishiki. He is a dark parallel of the protagonist in the most unsubtle of ways, and very human at his core. But still a villain whose obsessions lead to his undoing. That scene with Ichiban and Masato at the end is the emotional peak of Yakuza's writing in either the sub or dub.
On the other hand, Shishido isn't a personal enemy in the way that he acts as a foil to Kiryu. He's more an echo of the setting's past. A true blood yakuza who tried and failed to be born in a world that had moved past them, and that's what makes him so prominent after many games of evil gubmint officials. Kiryu, this time, was the political faction trying to end the yakuza, while Shishido was the one trying to stop them. It's a really interesting spin.
Does Nishiki really deserve a spot there?
Not only was he the weakest one, Kiryu was also barely injured or out of breath when he won the fight.
Better question is, does Ryuji deserve a spot there? Every time Kiryu fight him, Ryuji gets his ass handed to him.
She gonna be back next game right? :3
I wish skinny girls were real
she's so fricking cute
Why did Hanawa die again?
Why did Wong Tou even survive to that point?
>Everything that happened in Gaiden was irrelevant
>They had all the pieces they needed to have a good story and a proper sendoff for Kiryu and now we have neither
Amazing, can't wait for the next entry into the Kiryu retirement trilogy
>Gaiden is written and recorded after IW
>WTF WHY ARE DAIDOJI MORE RELEVANT IN GAIDEN?
every thread
that game is further proof they don't have the balls to commit to end KIryu's story. The cancer was just so tumblr and twitter girls would cry and act as free advertisement. At this point I fully expect them to retire Kiryu only when his VA dies
look what great fighting shape Bryce was in for a 90+ year old man, Kiryu can go until he's 110
Yong Yea will replace his JP voice, somehow
Kiryu will never die
They should have made Tatsuya Ukyo the new protagonist. Bring back beat em ups and return back to the first two games. I know they played different, but what else can you do for a series where the devs for def jam shut down
I laughed when Kume gave Aoki the ol shitknife bc he sucked and I don't have the emotional maturity of a teenage girl so Itchybum crying for 30 minutes had the reverse effect
Yakuza ended at 4
reminder that whatever they're doing next will be announced in the summer.
>whatever they're doing next
LIKE A HEDGEHOG: SONIC GAIDEN
>should
>of
>come
>here
Anyone get a weird bug, specifically with Kiryu, where he just stands for 10 seconds after you issue a command then finally does it?
yep only happens in the labyrinth dungeons for me, it's quite annoying since I wanna finish it asap and get to the boss in the end.
Good game, aside from all the filler.
yare yare daze
Oh no!? I have to stop this from happening!???
hancheol is the sovl of geomijul
I just want a new Judgment game, they nailed the combat there and I really liked all the school stuff
You mean at 6. "Muh Kiryu didn't get a good ending" fuc
After finishing Infinite Wealth, I'd say all the villains sorta sucked.
The problem is they get barely any screentime and they don't really interact with each other even though they're all ostensibly on the same side
Yeah I give an exception to Yamai (and Tatara lol) but the main ones were lame
You're still Ei-chan to me damnit
I hated how they spent the game's ending on him and not his mom
What the hell is a "Ya-Koozer"?
this should explain it
The substory in 8 that featured these dudes actually made me feel something.
I like how Gondawara is still a recurring character
Loved this substory. I cried like a b***h at the end.
Wish they just left him alone after 3 or 4. Wouldn't mind one bit that he retired peacefully at the orphanage and be subjected to minor appearances.
>Bingo Bongo Finale with Zhao
>Supposed to be at some arcade at night
>Don't see anything on the map anywhere
?
They're time of day based
It's night time right now and I still don't see anything.
go in the evening
Where is the Tennis Ace racket to make the ultimate weapon, one of the dungeons? Just cleared Yokohama stage 2 and don't really want to grind to be able to tackle the last tier if its on that floor
I got hooked on Greed Island and now I have over $400k when I should have 3 star gear
in like 10 hours that won't even be enough to fit out one character so don't worry.
>Can we all agree Yakuza should have ended here?
No. 7 and 8 are fricking fantastic and I want to see more games with Ichiban and the gang (hopefully, they'll let Kiryu either finally die or retire though).
Why does Xi Jinping show up in a side quest?
Yakuza should had ended at 2
Getting kind of sick of the woke witch hunt targeting Yakuza 8 tbh.
It's just fake outrage directed at something they don't even fully understand.
It should have ended after 2. We didn't need the shitass gameplay/writing of Y3 and CERTAINLY didn't need fricking anything in 0.
Should I play the original 1 and 2 instead of Kiwamis?
Did you start with 0 first? Because if you did then no, K1 and K2 are intended for you. If you didn't then you will play the originals and Kiwamis as part of release order.
I played 0 already, yes. What does "intended for you" mean?
I can't get both?
Kiwamis have the modern Yakuza feel
original 1/2 feels like Ninja Gaiden
K1 and K2 have constant 0 callbacks and add new scenes specifically for 0 that did not exist in 1 or 2. K1 adds a bunch of new Nishiki cutscenes because he was a literal who who was in the game for like four or five very short cutscenes and some substories that are sequels to ones from 0 (That aren't canon because of 6). K2 adds Majima Saga which outright spoils 0's ending and clears stuff up so 5 can take place and make sense in addition to the main game having some new substories for people coming from 0.
Kiwamis are basically treated as sequels to 0 rather than purely remakes of 1 and 2. They hype up Majima more than he was in the original games, have extra cutscenes and side activities referencing 0 etc.
Personally as someone who started with the originals I don't think there's really any reason to play them over Kiwami unless you want the pure release order experience I guess, but seeing as you've already played 0 just go to Kiwami.
are playing for plot or sovl?
>only get this party for one fight
>they're weak as shit
>Spend a decade bumfricking each other in a shack in the middle of nowhere
>Why are they so weak?!
they don't make any indication that they're weak - they were just underlevelled compared to my crew
so what was the point of Kiryu even recruiting them? They help to clean up some literal who mobs and make the helicopter frick off for 5 seconds and that's it
The game does nothing but blueball you from start to finish.
he just wanted to fight them for fun
why the frick is he holding the knife on his shoulder? it makes no sense
>Entirety of Dondoko island, dungeons and quests open up the moment they become available.
What were they thinking?! It turned the game into one giant side quest grind before stomping the main story effortlessly. Was it so difficult to tie to tie the dungeon's available difficulties and dondoko's star level to the chapter?
>""""""safe""""""house
>doesn't have a sniper on the top floor monitoring the outside at all times in case of incoming threats
What did the Daidoji mean by this?
anon, they're Jap CIA, they can't have a huge presence in Hawaii. Since there's actual CIA there
never killed anyone btw
rubber grenade
rubber helicopter
I feel like Kiryu vs a chopper might as well be Kiryu vs some guy on the street with a knife, at this point
how many times have they tried this, shit, just give up and let him win
>the Tojo Trio fricking shoot an RPG at the helicopter and miss
>this rocket will hit a random fricking house somewhere down the line and kill like a full family/all the office workers inside
>kiryu tosses a grenade in the helicopter
>this helicopter will hit a random fricking house somewhere down the line and kill like a full family/all the office workers inside
How has no one at RGGS thought of this
>Eiji
>Live
There's no way that homie doesn't get stabbed in prison. Every ex-yakuza wants him and Chitose dead.
I want Cheetos
Honolulu city lights just isn't the same without Ichiban shouting like an idiot.
7 and Gaiden had decent story so it wouldn't be long for 8 to frick up that streak.
>7
>decent story
the only memorable part is the memberberries chapter and Gaiden mogs it hard on that front. Also like how they dumped Nick the magic billionaire friend into the dondoko void the instant they got Akiyama back
didn't ask
4 but yeah.
>they kept Sawashiro alive
He's comi back as party member. I can't wait for the drink link.
>Ichiban's personal nemesis wakes up just long enough to mutter "wow Kiryu you are so sugoi"
something fricked up happened in that writing room
ok im not the only one who thought that was fricking weird.
it's cringe
what did he mean by this
LEAKYA
Do you get anything for doing ALL of the memories of the Dragon? I maxed out my awakening but I'm missing like 8 in total + the final Date Link (which I'll get later). I don't see anymore symbols on the map for Kamurocho or Inchijo.
no lol
Seeing fricking Lau show back up annoyed me to no end since he got fricking brain probed with a bullet forever ago. I swear the writer loves himself some soap opera narrative beats.
Already did that to finish my awakening grind.
idk how to tell you this but you need to order one of everything at almost every restaurant
some come out at different times of the day or need you to progress life links.
I don't recall being given the option to ever change the time in Yakuza games except when I am at the very ass end or in premium adventure.
sorry for late response. you can only do it at Survive bar. Go up the stairs to the closet and you can save
They're story progression locked
Now that the dust has settled, why was it called Infinite wealth?
maybe the infinite wealth was the friends we made along the way
Someone pointed out it was a mistranslation. It's more about having too much wealth. Though Like a Dragon: Too Much Wealth doesn't have the same ring to it.
The final chapter is something like "Overflowing/Excess Fortune/Wealth" in Japanese so Infinite is the edgified/2kool4school cartoon localization of it I guess. It's probably more symbolic fortune than anything material
They chose infinite because it's a sideways 8.
>Finish the game
>Achievement unlocked: The Man Who Regained His Name
How can a 90 year old geezer have such a massive health bar?
>90
Isn't he at least 100? There's no way he named as Sage of Palekana at 20.
Lani’s like 10 and she becomes Sage at the end of the game.
the split ruined the game for me honestly, the more I think about it all my issues with the game stem from splitting the game in two
There's nothing overtly wrong with the split and it's perceived flaws are more of an indication of your autism.
Seeing the story in different sides then combining is what the other games with multiple protagonists do, but without swapping gear and powerleveling back up because it fricks up the balance so hard. Add in that Kiryu's side gets additional party members and honestly just has a better cast overall and it feels a bit weird.
I think it feels worse mainly because the story doesn't really benefit from being split when they are using cellphones and straight up telling each other the pieces.
no u
>yakuza infinite is like 2 games in one
>littered with mini games
>littered with callbacks to all the old games
>drink links with Date kino
>that ending to the drink links
This game gave Kiryu so much fricking love and attention to detail. It's been really solid. Not enough Majima is my only complaint. For someone who was kiryus box cover rival for a long time, they seemed to have overlooked a lot of his relationships with other Yakuza. The kashiwagi talking to kiryu at survive scene was pretty good though. Really grateful we got Gaiden, the perfect last game for Kiryu. But they didn't have go so hard for 2 back to back games. Sucks the future of the franchise is uncertain without Kiryu in some form. Ichibans great, but he isn't the dragon of dojima. He's just a schizo playing Dragon Quest Irl but he's a very selfless person with good intentions. I just don't know if that's gonna make him chalk up to Kiryus stoic demeanor and track record.
>Guys aren't we forgetting something while we're here
>Oh yeah Wong Tou's son
No, it shouldve ended with Yakuza 6.
They should have included some kind of hour long series retrospective in Infinite Wealth. Black person, nobody is going to bother catching up on this series or get the references when the average Yakuza game is 60 hours long and there’s like 10 of them now.
Kiryu's entire bucket list is a series retrospective
It should've and did end in 6. Soft reboot is a new continuity as far as I'm concerned
LaD 9 should be a smaller game in a new engine for current gen consoles like 6 was.
LAD7 was back in 2020, this was an engine swap but I don't expect 9 till 2027. Probably Judgement 3 + another Isshin tier spinoff. One of those games will reuse Hawaii
>just finished after 50 hours
I guess I should start P3R now
Should have let Kiryu just fricking retire man. The entire thing with 7 was it's a new era and a new cast.
No, the entire think with 7 is that it's a new group of people having to deal with the baggage of the past. That's basically all this series has ever been, cleaning up the mistakes of the past. Every single game has been like this.
why are so many mistakes of the past resolved at the top of millennium tower
The villain always books the place in advance for the climactic final battle.
It's the symbol of Kamurocho, and Kamurocho is the symbol of the old era. It's the center of Japan's underworld, at least in this setting. Well, it and Sotenbori.
Remember, the Tojo and the Omi were the biggest yakuza organizations in Japan. They ruled Japan's criminal underworld for over a century. And the centers of their operations were Kamurocho and Sotenbori, with the Millennium Tower essentially being the symbol of the Tojo's power. Everything will inevitably lead back to the Tojo or the Omi because the Tojo and Omi WERE the yakuza. And the Tojo was basically dominant over the Omi ever since Kiryu beat the shit out of Ryuji in Y2. Arguably before then since in Y0, Kiryu and Majima ended up fricking the Omi over with their actions, however inadvertantly it may have been. So if anything involves Japan's criminal underworld, there's a 70% chance it will be related to Kamurocho somehow.
homies in Hokkaido wondering why all the southerners keep punching randoms in the street.
Is Bleach Japan going to be the overarching antagonist in Ichiban’s saga?
It will be Bleach Japan and some hidden relative of Arakawa in every game, until Ichiban's final game where he decides to be the true Hero of Japan and his final team's name is called Bleach Japan.
Is there anything exclusive to Plemium Adventure aside from being able to use characters who never went to Hawaii wherever you want?
The Big Swell DLC dungeon
These "Run across all of Hawaii while being chased" missions are fricking cringe.
THIS AIN'T A SHOW SHITHEAD
Is Hawaii really like this?
America is like that. The only difference is that you'll get shot instead of a fistfight.
Should have ended at 3.
So if the Tojo and Omi are gone, what's to stop someone like the Snake Flower Triad or the Jingweon Mafia from horning in on their old territory?
The Ichigang and the Jima bros
>Han Joongi doesn't have Head Trauma any more
It's Joever
Officer halp im been loved!
>japanese people have japanese accents
>this sends people into fricking hysterics
>japanese-american who has lived his entire life in hawaii has a thick japanese accent
>this sends people into fricking hysterics
why did they make the foreigner be so hairy but with Saejima, they didn't bother giving him any body hair at all, when it would've made sense for him to be the hairiest of all protagonists?
it's a Japanese stereotype to see foreigners as hairy
probably because of Italians
I wish
WHAT'S WITH THE SIDE EYE
So Bryce and by extension Ebina's final and ultimate goal was to have an island where they could just be big jerks outside of the law? No grand plan to conquer the world of extort money. Just a big old Epstein island but instead of sex it's just being jerks?
Can’t wait for LaD 9 where it turns out that Ichiban has another secret half brother from his mom’s side who becomes the villain.
I wonder how they're going to reuse Hawaii for future games
Narrative-wise reusing Yokohama wasn't that difficult since its basically Tokyo, but if they were going to do it for Hawaii they really have to bend the plot for it to make sense
Ryuji gaiden might have a chance though considering he skipped town after 2 and it's more weird for him to stay in Kamurocho+Sotenbori after the incident
>he skipped town after 2
cope
It's the franchise where they bring the dead back to life, and bring protagonist from retirement multiple times
They are definitely going to resurrect Ryuji if they realized that they shot themselves in the foot by making a Hawaii map that they have to reuse for future games
Especially when his death is questionable and whether if he's dead is debated amongst fans, unlike Kashiwagi
>whether he's dead is debated amongst fans
no it isn't, and there's nothing questionable about it. it's only debated amongst people coping
your autism aside you know that RGG has a plot bending ability to completely pull shit from their arse right?
Hell they can even resurrect Mine despite he clearly pancake'd himself from a skyscraper, they said it interview that they definitely would bring Mine back to life if they had a proper reason for him to be reintroduced
Remembrance Gaiden where you find out Ryuji, Mine, and Nishiki all survived and ran away to Hawaii and the plot switches between them until they all come together to become "reborn" and show up in Yakuza 9 as Kiryu's new party
>ending of 9 Kiryu’s in a wheelchair
>falls on top of the last boss and cries
Richardson being alive feels like a shitty thing to do. Kashiwagi surviving was dumb, but at least he was technically a good guy, so everyone being friendly with him is fine. But having Richardson come back would be like having Jingu be alive, it undoes the redeeming self sacrifice the final boss of the game does while also bringing back someone who was supposed to be irredeemable and bad.
Shinada Gaiden where you find out he and Milky-chan ran away to Hawaii after his debts were cleared and he's trying to start a Major League Baseball team in Honolulu but is caught up in some shenanigans with some crime syndicate trying to take control of it.
also Daigo shows up at some point and he's your bro throughout the story and you can hang out with him and play minigames with him and they force Daigo's VA to finally do karaoke.
Pretty sure RGG completely forgot about him
That scene with Kiryu and Ebina after the final boss is the gayest scene in the series.
The way Kiryu cradles his head ever so gently was just weird.
Tanimura Gaiden where it's just Sleeping Dogs, but it's Tanimura instead.
Hawaii was fun but I hope they never use it again.
Haruka and Haruto Gaiden where you find out Noa Amon also had a child at the same time and the Amon clan is trying to defeat Kiryu's family by having Noa's child outperform Haruto in school. Also you see milf Haruka and milf Noa dance battle but they're doing awkward mom dances instead of cute idol dances
Haruto Gaiden with a middle school aged Haruto beating up bullies in school.
>Kiryu has cancer
>He's literally dying
>He can't go two fights without coughing up blood
>He's lost weight, weaker than he ever was, he pretty much has no stamina
>People still need to bring swords and miniguns and shit in order to fight him.
These b***h-ass pussies.
Why are people calling everyone who shits on Y8 "tourists" ?
Everyone who started the games with either Y7 or Infinite Wealth first are the ones continuously fellating them as being the best shit ever or something or just going "idc about story, lol. game is just 'fun' :)"
I'm 45 now, I've been playing this series since the original PS2 ones came out. I've been in the fanbase for decades and I simply just hate the direction they're taking with the series. It feels like they're completely shitting on absolutely everything that's been built up before it. Sure, some of the older entries might have done that as well but at the end of it, it still felt like they had some kind of integrity felt to them. The new ones are just cancer.
How am I the one being seen as the tourist who needs to be gatekept when they're literally the ones coming in from the new entries only claiming those are the best shit ever and you shouldn't even bother playing the older entries?
> waa why am i the one that's being gate kept from le heckking cool 4chin crew
cope
moron
Forgotten Gaiden, where they find excuses to bring back random major characters they wrote out of the story like Kido, Arai, Aizawa, and Baba and they just say what the hell happened to them after the games ended. Basically, turn that Kuze in the 90s RGGO thing into an actual game.
>Kume (10 years in the joint)
Why is this board so obsessed with Gaynada? He had one filler chapter in a single game. He has literal zero relevance to anything. A Gaiden focusing on him would be boring AF.
It was a filler chapter but the story was actually good
unlike the non-filler main plot
>"story was good"
>everyone in town is trying to kill me
>coincidentally it's the 3 characters that Shinada interacts with in his story
>baseball stadium meme fight
The only good part of his story was the money lender guy.
It really feels like there is a scene missing between Kiryu fighting Ebina and Ichiban meeting up with Eiji. Ebina just kind of disappears and Ichiban is suddenly back in Japan fast enough after fighting Bryce to get to Eiji at the same time Kiryu is being helicoptered out. I feel like in the scenario where Ichiban and Ebina were the original final confrontation, there was definitely something that happens in the time between those moments that blends together a little better.
which yakuza would?
Why didn’t the combat go brawler mode at the end of Ebina’s boss fight like it did with Majima, Saejima, and Daigo? The cutscene looked like it was setting up for it, only for the fight to end with a QTE prompt. What a wasted opportunity.
Because Yokoyama is a fricking moronic hack homosexual who can't keep anything consistent and logical in the shit he writes.
Kiryu's entire party just gets wiped out in the dynamic intro cutscene by Ebina alone and then it's just Kiryu in front of Ebina left, but then the cutscene ends and suddenly your entire party teleports behind you and you're back to JRPG shit. They have nothing but morons working on these games now.
>Kiryu's entire party just gets wiped out in the dynamic intro cutscene by Ebina alone
am i the only one who thinks this was so fricking moronic and forced? where was it even remotely implied that ebina was some godly fighter? it feels like they just tacked it in there to give him last minute hype. IW is so fricking bad in how it deals with its antagonists
remember the scene where he was talking to his crew then had them step out and in 1 frame after talking to his subordinate, he just lays on the ground, been stabbed and that's it... no actual stabbing or showing the beating of sawashiro....
Ebina himself said he backstabbed his lieutenant. It wasn't suggested to have even been a fight, nor did he have to fight Sawashiro either. He has men for that
It would've been nice for them to show it as a way to make Ebina more threatening, like a small preview that he can actually move around and frick up people.
the cutscenes or fight intros akwardly forgot there was a party or quickly dispatched so the boss name would appear as a one on one
There's no difference, you're mashing square for 10 seconds either way
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Where do you get Shark Fins and Squid Tentacles from? Need some for crafting.
Isn't it obvious that the Daidoji didn't have much of a presence in 8 because they're being set up as the final antagonists in 9 where Kasuga has to destroy the faction to break Kiryu's contract so that he can finally get a happy ending after his cancer miraculously gets better?
Just have Chitose cancel them and it’s all over.
Then you find out Arakawa is actually Minoru Daidoji's biological son and not actually related to the guy they said was his father and Ichiban is actually Daidoji's grandson and Daidoji had another secret grandson Ichiban's age and he's the final boss.
Yakuza 9 will be a Kiryu brawler game. RGG realized that Ichikek is a flop.
cope, 8 is the best selling game in the franchise. turn BASED kings won over brawlershitters
would be nice if we get to have both.
game wouldn't have a fraction of those sales if it didn't include kiryu as a playable character btw
Every Yakuza game takes place in the year it releases and Kiryu only has 6 months to live.
So either we're getting a Gaiden/DLC for 8 that shows his death, he's gonna die offscreen, or they're just gonna say he got better.
should've ended at 2, not kiwami 2, just 2
This series has become like marvel and star wars in the sense that they just keep relying on nostalgia and fan service instead of new stuff. Except the yakuza fans just eat it up without question because Japan made it I guess
And just like this dude.... YONG YEA will voice Kiryu OVER and OVER again..... XD
>yongyea is korean
>kiryu now too is a secret korean
jingweon bros we won...
there's this recurring theory. After all we know many victims of Kazama were koreans and he built the orphenage to house the victim's kids. Wouldn't be that far fetched.
but japs worship their VA.
don't you dare meme magic it into existence. Am still angry they shafted the original dub VA
Didn't they do that in 8 because people (mostly Japanese) hated how 6 threw past characters under the bus and ignored them completely?
Even before 8
>its pocket circuit fighter again
>its diaper fetish yakuza again
>its obatarian again
>its Ono Michio again
They are somehow stuck on the most recent memes that got Yakuza popular in the west and repeat them over and over again. You don't see Mack or Komaki popping in Yakuza 7 for no reason.
Komaki does pop up in 8 thoughever
Yakuza always had recurring gag characters tho
Remember Akimoto and Mizuki? They were even in Kenzan
>its pocket circuit fighter again
>its Ono Michio again
These are based thoughever
komaki is in 8
>Tries to escape his past
>While still working for another Yakuza clan in Japan
I'm starting to think that Kiryu doesn't want out of the Yakuza world
daidoji aren't a yakuza clan they're a bunch of government glowies
What I'm saying is he should have fled the country or go to Hokkaido
He can't, some members of the Daidoji want him and his family dead.
The trade off is he "dies" to keep their secret, and the Daidoji leaves everyone alone. Also the orphanage gets an influx of funds from time to time.
Refusing to just fricking retire Kiryu is ruining the series going forward. Every game is going to be half Kiryu shit rehashing the same shit the last 20 years. MEMBER MILLENNIUM TOWER
>*cracks open root beer*
>puts MachineGun Kiss【Police Spec Edition】 full blast on speakers
awww yeahh this is the life
Kiryu should have died at the end of 6. Would have been a more impactful send off to his character than constantly dragging him through every sequel and spinoff afterwards.
They did my boy __Hanawa__ dirty........
He's just gonna come back later and Kiryu will go "knew it was a double, that's why I didn't shed a year"
This game's writing did him dirty. He does nothing, gets tricked and dies, and kiryu only has a few thoughts for him.
Truly bizarre writing, given that in Gaiden, the lengths to which Kiryu would go to rescue him and the sacrifice Hanawa was willing to make to keep Kiryu alive. Not to mention how their relationship had progressed beyond agent-handler according to the Daidoji Boss.
Shit actually bothers me so much.
noncanon spinoff
So all in all, can we safely say that the soft reboot that was supposed to be 7 ended up as a failure (not as a fun video game, but as a reboot to the series)?
Kiryu appearing for a second in 7 and then being the "passing on the torch" fight was fine.
But in 8? Part of ICHIBANS sidestories are people from Kiryus games. Why?
>bartender from ichis half of the story? yeah its a guy from yakuza 3
>hey remember the coffee guys
>hey remember the dojo guys saejima beat up
>hey remember the baby guys (though they were in 7 too)
>hey remember Ono Michio (he was in 7 too kinda)
>all of Ichibans friends are now also Kiryus friends
The problem isn't recurring characters, the problem is that Ichiban doesn't get any recurring characters of his own. The roomba scientist and he Sujimon fella. That's it. He gets more characters from Kiryu's/other protags past(s) than he does from his own.
Ichiban comes with an entire party of recurring characters, and it's only his second game. Characters like Yamai and the crazy eats guy, miss match granny etc will probably come back
7 was successful as frick, it seems to me like they are retconning 6 using the success of 7 since 6 was overwhelmingly negative in Japan
and they are putting a lot of past things in it because that was one of the major criticism of 6 and less Haruka because people fricking hated adult Harula
the kiryu story ended with 2, he should have been at most only referenced and shown as an advisory character in sequels that would have starred other characters
they have been dragging his character to the mud for 7 games now and if you havent dropped the cringe-yu saga by now, you have only yourself to blame for the current state of yakuza
Why the frick do all the characters in this series have to be some variation of "wholesome chungus" memes instead of actually making them borderline pieces of shit or people that are willing to just kill and do despicable things as long as it manages to protect the ones they care about or achieving the better outcome?
Every single moronic protagonist in this series is completely willing to just let the main villains get away with everything cause "uh it's wrong to kill if it's not in self defense lol" and they genuinely believe some shitty moralgay talk would be able to suddenly change the villains perspective on everything and get them to change. This literally never happens in real life. Even if you did give someone the most convincing, life changing talk of their life, it's still going to take months, up to even years to see them actually try to change their ways, once they manage to fully digest what you just told them at that point in time.
>instead of actually making them borderline pieces of shit or people that are willing to just kill and do despicable things as long as it manages to protect the ones they care about or achieving the better outcome?
Bro Sawashiro ? Kills plenty of dudes for his locker baby
That's not a protagonist. They let Daigo just shoot and kill people too cause he's not playable, but everyone else can't.
so you specifically want a protag that kills ? Why
because they're protagonists and making the protagonists of the game be murderers part of n actual real life criminal enterprise probably wouldn't be great.
also most of the villains don't even change their minds, or they only do it after they've lost everything anyway so they don't have much of a choice
Because our protagonists being old-school Yakuza who value respect and honor above all else is literally the whole point of the series
>old-school Yakuza who value respect and honor above all else
Junko Furuta would like to have a chat with you about these so called good guys of the old-school Yakuza.
i don't know if the guys who did it were actually in the yakuza pretty sure one of them just claimed he was to intimidate people
In the games those guys would be titled butthole when you fight them
and then you'd find out Junko Furuta is fine and they never hurt her and the ringleader would confess to her while sad music plays. Because the games are yakuza propaganda.
yakuza 0 had the girl you're trying to protect be a victim of sex trafficking from a yakuza thoughever
You are literally playing as the yakuza and you're trying to protect her because you're so noble and honorable and compassionate
you only briefly ever actually play as a Yakuza in the intro mission of 0, 1 and 7 since all the protagonists get kicked out of the Yakuza shortly after that
>game can't even commit to it's basic main premise
lmfao
the game's actual title has always been Like a Dragon though and you do play as the Dragon of Dojima (or Yokohama)
Majima was by all intensive purposes never not a yakuza
he was technically not a Yakuza in 0 when you play as him
but the villains of the games are almost always Yakuza
half the villains in the series are political figures/mastermind types.
>Yakuza 0 Final Boss
Yakuza
>Yakuza 1 Final Boss
Yakuza
>Yakuza 2 Final Boss
Yakuza
>Yakuza 3 Final Boss
Yakuza
>Yakuza 4 Final Boss
I guess the last one you fight is the corrupt cop though you also fight 2 Yakuza along side him with the other characters
>Yakuza 5 Final Boss
Yakuza
>Yakuza 6 Final Boss
Political figure/mastermind
>Yakuza 7 Final Boss
Political figure/mastermind
>Yakuza 8 Final Boss
Yakuza
The vast majority of final bosses are are Yakuza and the overwhelming majority of normal bosses are as well.
Iwami is technically Yakuza too
Most of these yakuza bosses are also honorable notbadguys and get redeemed into a chungus
no they don't, three of them get a brief flicker of redemption before immediately dying and the others just get written out of the story completely without anything.
The only one who doesn't gety redemption is Shibusawa (and Iwami but he's hardly yakuza)
shibusawa doesn't, aizawa doesn't, iwami doesn't, shishido doesn't. I'm not sure if you'd count ebina getting it
all the others who do get redemption immediately die
frick you bros
shishido and aizawa were never buttholes
aizawa had no personalty at all except I'm here fight me
>Ebina
>Yakuza
Did you miss the entire fricking point?
they're the dregs of the Yakuza, not the actual good ones. the ones you beat are the ones that ought to change and that the good Yakuza members are beating up since they're bad Yakuza members than don't deserve to be part of the Yakuza cause they commit vile crimes instead of giving their money out to the poor and investing in finances and other businesses like TRUE good Yakuza member would do.
they're not the dregs normally they're major figures in the Yakuza. you basically defeat every Yakuza boss in every game. I don't think there's a single Yakuza that's actually a good guy in Yakuza 1 aside from Kiryu who isn't even a Yakuza anymore for most of the game and Kazama who dies
>yakuza 0 had the girl you're trying to protect be a victim of sex trafficking from a yakuza thoughever
I seem to remember they shifted most of the blame for this to the Koreans (lol)
i think Oda got most of the blame for it since he's the one that sold her to it then tried to cover it up to save his b***h ass
yeah, but she specifically blames the koreans that bought her for the rape/pimping
maybe there is some weight to the idea that these games are yakuza propaganda
she blames Oda, a yakuza, she even tells Kiryu that he kept her prisoner and sold her like cattle and she specifically names "a man with a tattoo like a bat" as the chief perpetrator
I honestly thought at first the missions like that were really wholesome and nice, kind of giving you a positive view on life and people but now that I've seen the keep shitting them out the ass over and over again without actually show some more gritty shit and the reality of how things actually are in most cases, the whole thing just lost it's charm for me.
Thanks for proving my point. The guys in the image (only one of them was Yakuza, and he literally just joined) are the exact kind of people who aren't old school and don't value respect and honor above all else.
What I mean by old-school is post-WW2, where Japan had no police and the Yakuza actually upheld law and protected people.
Wasn't it literally one guy going "my cousin is in the yakuza so you better listen to us!!"?
moron
The games are bankrolled by actual yakuza to improve their images, that's the only reason they can keep making them despite dogshit sales
they can keep remaking them because they reuse assets like a motherfricker and the games aren't particularly expensive triple A technical marvels even aside from that
First game was made when evil protagonist was a no-no in Japan because Dragon Quest was the king, they wouldn't have gotten a funding from a publisher if the protagonist was morally ambiguous like GTA protagonist, the fact that a game about Yakuza protagonist got a funding is already a miracle of itself.
Also the first game was heavily inspired by a movie called "Battles without Honor or Humanity", a story about a good guy who went into Yakuza for honor and shit, ending up witnessing his oath brother who used to have good intentions getting corrupted by the greedy world of Yakuza.
Since then the game's protagonist is wholesome chungus because it would be incongruent if new protagonist was suddenly like a GTA protagonist with no moral what-so-ever
dude... i no.... I wish so fricking much they were hardcore... im a hardcore guy i only play hardcore games.... i fricking hate the fact they do not kill ppl...
... w8... didnt we had this convo before?
people do die in these games all the time though, and plenty of it is because of people siding with the protagonists. half the antagonists in Y1-3 get clipped by a supporting character
ye but i only want to play as manly b@d@ss guys lik me who arent afraid to get teir hands dirty..... im sick n tired of playing poossies...
you are so tiresome, troony
... who teh frick r u calling a troony...? id stomp ur head until you'd cry like a baby... and i wouldnt stop.... im not a poossi
it's ok to defend your opinions without resorting to acting like a cretin straw man on the internet, not sure who needed to tell you this
yea ur a strawman bcus id rip u apart loser
Ya~Kuze would be nice to imagine. Playing as him, intimidating, killing, raping, money making....
Finished Yakuza 0 in Hard Mode.
What is next? Do I run everything by playing Kiwami 1 2 and the remakess and then 7 and 8?
Forgot to add, not 100%, and neither all quests to unlock the hardest battles.
bros...?
Any help?
what do you mean
can you count?
can you fricking COUNT?
I WANT TO KNOW IF I SHOULD REPLAY THIS ON LEGEND
OR MOVE ON
THE GRIND ON THE CABARET WAS CRINGE
there are like 13 games in this series now with 1-2 being released every year, unless you're a neet replaying them twice in a row seems like a waste of time
okay fine anon, thanks
I SUFFERED BECAUSE I HAD NO MONEY
I WANTED TO RUN THE GAME WITH THE LEGEND STYLE EARLY (like I did witth Kiryu since chapter 7) BUT I WAS FORCED TO PROGRESS INTO THE FINALE
JUST TO GET MONIES
did you abuse the giant guy that takes your money like you're supposed to? as soon as I finished the kiryu grind in real estate and got sent back to majima I finished the cabaret shit all in one go and was set long before the finale
yes
the issue is that Majima doesn't have deep pockets, so I cannot get x1.7 times the amount I can grind with him, therefore I grinded with Kiryu, advanced all the way into the finale, and finished the cabaret minigame and stuff to get all the properties
WHAT
I THOUGHT IT WAS EASIER
Legend mode is avaliable from the start right?
>Legend mode is avaliable from the start right?
it's been a while since I played K1 but I believe progression in it is related to the majima everywhere system which advances rather slowly for the time you put into it. it's not terrible anyway and you get some cool moments out of it at least
>Legend mode is avaliable from the start right?
you have to farm the majima everywhere system that steadily opens up as you complete the story mode while grinding out specific requirements within it to unlock each upgrade instead of using money or xp. its "available" but you don't have the full use of it until near the end of the game
sorry, I esl'd there I tried to say Legend difficulty
nah, sorry. completion data only as usual but you can still do legendary with NG+ unlike most games
dammit
I am forever casted to be a casual
Thanks still anon
you're the only one seeing the save game data, so as long as you are having fun it literally does not matter if you are "casual" on hard or using legend difficulty
K1 also has an annoying grind for legend style unfortunately
but at the very least you can still get it fairly early
cabaret club is the best minigame you fricking loser
how the frick am I supposed to do the final bouncer mission in k2 with the three amon
I can barely get axe c**t down before the adds start destroying me, or if I get rid of them, the other two c**ts range me to death faster than I can attack
Wear a sacrifice stone and try your best to keep your heat bar filled by beating each amon's group of goons
where do I find them and how much health do they restore on revive?
full heal, ebisu
You can find them in Ebisu Pawn for 3 million yen, expensive as frick but they fill your entire health bar up
>3 mil
guess I have to brush the dust off the caba club and farm more money
the closest I got was two amons down with the gun amon on his last bar but he sidestepped me and insta nuked me while I was in an animation
I mean if you don't have enough money you can also find two of them for free, one is found in the Sotenbori Locker D2 and the other is in the Tojo Clan's hidden room
this bouncer mission is the second to last thing in the game I have to complete before uninstalling forever, so I've already gotten and used those two long ago
Figures, good luck with the grind then, and especially with the mission itself
cabaclub netted me 10 mil on the fourth level last time I ran it with all 6 plats and yuki, so I'm not too concerned about that grind
Does this agility buff apply before the fight begins? Which is to say, will it ensure I get a Blazing Arrow out before everyone else?