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>won't purchase a game with yellow paint or white chalk
Yep, that's money saved for me.
Not sure I understand. Are you dismissing games if they dumb things down for casuals?
>Are you dismissing games if they dumb things down for casuals?
NTA but yes
Yes
BASADO
Yes. I can't help but feel insulted when I'm playing a game and it decides it suddenly needs to talk down to me.
>Are you dismissing games if they dumb things down for casuals?
duh
Some people don't like their intelligence insulted.
some people need to stop thinking everything is about them.
if you can navigate just fine cool. these things are the for the actual 5iq apes that also buy vidya
>some people need to stop thinking everything is about them.
So why should I play a game that's clearly not made for me?
>some people need to stop thinking everything is about them.
But it isnt?
They made it into a baby game.
I dont like playing baby games.
Their intention is irrelevant.
Make that shit an option in accessibility settings and we are golden but I might as well not play if all I do is follow glowing arrows.
>some people need to stop thinking everything is about them.
If the game isn't specifically made for me why should I buy it, crapshill?
I don’t care about games catering to casuals. The yellow paint specifically is lazy and fricking moronic
>wait a second…. that conveniently painted object….
>items shining bright from 200ft is not lazy and fricking moronic because I grew up with it
Items shining to the player is not as immersion breaking as someone in the game world getting a paint brush and painting only the places the player will go in contrasting colors
Nice strawman of me from my one sentence post
Wait motherfricker are you the one going around painting everything?
>items literally fricking glowing is not immersion breaking
Yes.
I dismiss games that are designed by women for women.
Unfortunately Ganker doesn't have yellow text.
Yes
I don't care if they do. Why the frick should I? You just need a new thing of the week to cry about. It's a total fricking nothing burger
Based. Start boycotting games that treat us like morons just because their testers couldn't pass kindergarten
Because if they made a significant difference between barrels you could and couldn't break, you'd be crying about how the unbreakable ones look so shitty compared to the ones you're supposed to break.
Why don't they just use a distinct texture that doesn't look like the wall behind it? Then they wouldn't need to paint it.
why don't they just assume that players understand ladders can be climbed
That ladder model looks like trash. Like plywood stapled together. If playtesters missed it, that's probably why. Just put in a metal ladder and people will know "this can fricking hold my weight and was designed to do so."
A metal ladder will also stand out more in the seemingly mineshaft looking environment. Provided they don't let their art monkeys go full moron and dip it in copious amounts of flith and grime.
They tested the games without yellow paint and the players were missing everything and got lost. Some anon from here thought he is better than the moronic test groups and used a mod to remove the yellow paint and had to admit he was wrong because he was missing everything as well. All the devs have to do is add an npc with a yellow paint bucket in somewhere to justify it better.
That's a failure in visual design.
I mean, with today's graphics trying to look as realistic as possible, you're on a tight rope balancing act between visual design for gameplay, and visual design for realism. If you go too realistic and don't signpost anything, the game can become easy to get lost in. If you signpost everything, it's a frickin video game and the point of the realistic visuals clash even harder with the gameplay intent. People act like they'd ace these sorts of things, but the reality is without firmly established rules of what you can or can't interact with that remain consistent, signposting is necessary at a compromise to reality.
There are better ways to address this. Like someone else said, use metal ladders to indicate ones you can climb or broken ones for those you can't. Unbreakable boxes can be braced with metal, light sources and proper camera orientation can indicate direction, rotting wood and solid wood to suggest what windows can be broken, etc.
It breaks immersion more if your brain has to actively focus on what can and what cannot be used.
Realism was a mistake, clearly.
For many, many reasons beyond just this shit, frankly. The industry is in such a stagnated arms race to the top of the graphics pile that games have suffered hard for it, as have the price points of viable computer builds for playing said games.
>The industry is in such a stagnated arms race to the top of the graphics pile
it's the opposite actually. The tech behind graphics is advancing far faster than these huge multi-year international billion dollar games can keep up with.
There hasn't been a period of stagnation, or calm as I prefer, where people can master the tools provided and instead the hot new shit is jammed in by people who are still learning.
I see where you're coming from. I guess a stagnation in my perspective is probably more along the lines of how we have shifted so much in the past couple generations, with Unreal Engine 5 being a whole different beast from 3 as one example, but many games still don't really look leaps and bounds above PS4 launch titles without direct comparisons, and after a point you reach the semantics like resolution and framerate rather than the fidelity. But even then that's all picking hairs since there's still a marked improvement unlike what some people try to proclaim.
I personally think the biggest issue is that not enough artists are actually good artists.
Even with very basic tools, or in this case graphics you can still make striking and good looking images. The task of bringing everything together, composing a look, is beyond the skills or even just natural talent of too much people.
12k textures, 1:1 facescans, 400trillion polys means nothing if you just don't have the 'eye' to make everything come together.
Realistic looking games in the 2000s didn't have this problem.
>Realistic looking games in the 2000s didn't have this problem.
Wonder where I'm supposed to climb?
You're right, it does stand out. But the game, even if it has a realistic style, still isn't actually particularly realistic, so obvious contrivances for the sake of gameplay aren't jarring. Chasing realism was never going to end well, but there was a long enough period where it was still abstracted enough that it worked. That's no longer the case.
No? The dark crevices are clearly visible and that's where Drake is holding on to.
Also
>Uncharted
Try Max Payne 2 or Half-Life 2.
it's obvious they just don't like it because it's a bright color
people were complaining about the white painted ledges before this
these remind me of the "you can't have bright colorful costumes in muh live action movies" types of people
It's a deliberately jarring color.
In pic
perhaps the stones just weathered that way or maybe the architect just used inconsistent stones here and there.
In pic
the only explanation is that some absolute fricking psychopath is running around Midgar with a bucket of yellow painting random ledges. And that's absolutely moronic unless you get to fight the mysterious yellow painter in a boss fight, which I'm fairly sure isn't the case. If a game did let me fight the painter I'd call it kino.
I wish I knew. Where's yellow paint man when you need him?
Only problem with this is devs didn't include extra rock crevices which lead to no where, with maybe having 1 or 2 that break and kill you
Simple solution.
: FRICK REALISM
Realism is just one of many methods of visually portraying something. Many games have benefited from it.
Telling a whole method to "go frick itself" is foolish. It's like being an art connoisseur but saying "FRICK OIL PAINTINGS!"
>with today's graphics trying to look as realistic as possible
Sounds like a design/art problem.
>Some anon from here thought he is better than the moronic test groups and used a mod to remove the yellow paint and had to admit he was wrong because he was missing everything as well.
Not only is this anecdotal, Ganker is normalgay central. And even setting these things aside, game designers actually used other methods to signpost interactables.
Or you know, actually make it visible without looking both moronic and out of place.
Yellow paint is better than glowing barrels in the original RE4.
Objects looking brighter to get your attention is way better than some unknown stranger covering everything obvious in yellow paint.
No.
Because modern level designers have to fill up every unused inch of an area with random props, debris, and greeble to up the polycount and convince normies that the game looks “next-gen.” Since many of these random assets thrown in by environment artists are indiscernible from things that are actually meant to be interacted with, level designers take the lazy approach and just color code the things that are useful. Your gamer instinct might have you try all the ladders in the room (and rightfully so), but due to poor design only the highlighted one will actually lead anywhere.
If I see a ladder, I assume I can climb it. Really no need for the paint.
we had fricking runner vision 15 years ago
this feels like regression in game design
Should've made the paint bright lime green
>bitching about realism in a childrens hobby
Great thread.
have a nice day homosexual
kids shouldnt play resident evil games
What game even is this
I think its re8 dlc where u play as ethans daughter
The DLC goes back to third person? Is the gameplay the "same"?
RE8 dlc
RE8 Village DLC where you play as the main dude's daughter
>introduce female protag in the DLC
>instead of the familiar first person mode it now needs to be in 3rd
>female just has to be front and center of what's interesting
typical
how was I supposed to know I could use bombs?
This is literally what the online messages are like
>hidden path ahead
dark sois gays are mentally ill
how do you morons still manage to miss the point. Random yellow paint on a ladder or a ledge makes 0 sense, why is the paint there? Messages appearing in Souls game have a lore explanation and can be turned off if you play offline.
This. Guiding the player is not the problem. The problem is not doing it in an immersive and lore-friendly way.
>Random yellow paint on a ladder or a ledge makes 0 sense, why is the paint there?
Shout out to Wo Long for being the only game where all the yellow paint makes sense.
You need to explain and if you say yellow turbans I'll whip your nutsack with a belt buckle.
Of course it is, it's their aesthetic.
Online services for prepare to die edition on pc were turned off
I stuck with the starting handgun all game because it was one of the 3 weapons that could use the laser sight
Using handgun in the remake actively gimps you. Blacktail is the gun that gives you the least disadvantage for using it and it doesn't have laser sight.
Mary where the frick are you!?
I mean
is this dead space?
Callisto protocol.
Prison shank a b***h - dead space.
It's ok. Looks pretty, dumb as hell. Don't pay more than $20 or preferably sail the high seas if you care.
It's Dead Space's moronic cousin.
When I see something meant to be as eye catching as that in a game I wonder why it's there. Who painted that ladder? Why did they do it?
In this case I'm also asking, from a game design perspective, why did they go with spilled paint instead of just making the ladder yellow and applying a worn texture over it like you'd see in older games?
Why can't they do it like Sekiro? Climbable surfaces being clearly communicated to the player without it looking moronicly out of place.
it needs even more yellow
I want to see you people haven an aneurysm and die
just follow the yellow brick road
What possesses a person to defend shit design entirely for free, without being asked, on multiple occasions?
because it's those kind of morons this design is built for
This is a fricking embarrassment. Why couldn't it have just been a lighter shade of stone?
Why is this highlighted? It's a linear route. Do you even do anything or just hold up/mash X?
To think that in the 90s jrpg made you walk around the entire zone randomly pressing x until you find some secret item. And now they're doing the complete opposite with this moronic feature. Both designs are shit
>Rebirthgays will defend this
Nope. This is the only valid criticism to come out of the demo
Something good TR reboot did was that it used white/grey to make the edges obvious to climb
Yellow looks bad and is too fricking distracting
I hate the bird shit/cum stain ledges too
This is the exact same shit as the yellow paint, it's not better or worse.
Sorry, but that's just video games. In the 90's either it was trial and error, or you had big ass arrows and interaction prompts telling you what to do. In the 00's onwards, it's marking what players can interact with or button prompts. It's entirely up to art designers as to whether the interactions are subtle or blatantly signposted. It's like b***hing about Uncharted 1 having suspicious waist-high ruin walls and crate boxes everywhere for an inevitable firefight, alongside having brighter edges for what you could climb in platforming sequences.
I'm not complaining.
I'm pointing out that it's the exact same thing as the yellow paint. I know why it's there and I don't care.
The only people bothered by signposting like this are nerds who feel for some reason they are being insulted when in reality they are there for the actual morons in the audience.
It's a total non-issue that's blown up for some reason.
Nah, since Anniversary they have done this and I've hated it since then.
Cloud could literally just jump up there
Reminds me of when Sonic Team just flat out copies a gimmick from Nintendo.
why does the animation look so bad, and why the need to highlight a path that only has one way? if you really need, paint he first ledge, but after the 3rd one there is literally no reason for it
stunning game design, games just keep getting better and better
>3rd person action combat
>climb up puzzle
>carrying thing through hallway and putting it down puzzle
>opening door/shimmying through crack to hide loading
>yellow/cum paint
YEP, IT'S SONY MOVIE GAME TIME
im more offended by the animations
As much as I liked the demo, seeing the yellow paint diminished my opinion of the game a bit. It's already a linear path, a straight climb up. No need to dumb it down that much.
We are entering a new age of appealing to casuals because game journalists have gotten even more moronic in recent years
This time however the defenders of casualism are going to be incredibly smug and paint anyone against handholding as the alt-right
Why do people get wound up by this sort of stuff? Companies need receptionists, HR, account managers, writers, etc that have nothing to do with gaming
You're fooling yourself if you think they are limited to those roles
OK so if she's an artist or coder, what's the problem still?
She has good milkers tho...
What else do you think she got hired for?
I'm still confused about how working at Blizzard was her "dream job" if she doesn't even play video games
She was paid without doing any actual work.
>When you have to pose for school picture day
what the frick is a taskatae
Save me in Anime language
Help me not save me 🙂
>taskatae
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I hate weeb homosexuals so much
Why can't they just add a light to the bottom and top of the ladder, like From does it?
It's also not realistic, but it doesn't stick out like a sore thumb.
Why yellow though? Yellow is such an ugly color
maybe for the same reason why red and yellow became warning sign color standards? i figure for someone with color blindness it may still stick out enough to be noticeable
garish colour, stands out. Red is almost universally in games a "bad" colour or blood. No one uses purple for some reason.
Probably because it's eye catching and their 5 iq play testers got stuck otherwise
its classic narrative color
Because modern games aren't using pure yellow for anything else in the environment.
yellow is a happy colour you horrible little man
if you defend this shit then you defend devs making games for moronic people like dsp
dsp beat dark souls through sheer autism and determination, so fundamentally every game is moronic
are you implying dark souls isn't simply half a notch higher than the average game in terms of difficulty? because it's not a difficult game by any means
i can't believe there is discourse around this
this is about as bad as that killmonger haircut twitter trannies keep complaining about
>bro why is there videogamey elements in my video game
i also love how all the brilliant suggestions are just yellow paint but a different color
autistic people shouldn't be allowed to use the internet
yellow paint isn't videogamey it's fricking lazy. OG had it right.
>i also love how all the brilliant suggestions are just yellow paint but a different color
There's plenty of games that didn't need any paint at all, literally just listen to the dev commentary in Half Life games. There are ways to direct players attention through level design itself or scripted events that happen near the area where you want the player to look.
just give us the option to turn it off
problem solved
>make the character stare at the ladder
>make the character react to the player leaving the area
>
How hard is that
Copying Zelda 64 would be too embarrassing for these devs.
- yellow paint general
>exploding barrels are red
AAAAHHHH MUH INTELLIGENCE
Yep. Red is rarely used for anything flammable in the real world. But many cultures do splash a little bit of yellow pain on things you can climb, break or interact with.
*paint
My keyboard is dying and that's a good thing.
Metal railings and ladders are painted yellow in industrial settings, to be visible. Not always , but they do do when building new
Wait until you guys hear about the Valve commentary on episode 2 about lights to secretly guide players to doors
The yellow paint is only the tip of the iceberg
What purpose does the yellow paint serve? I mean what property of yellow indicates "climable" that being a ladder does not?
The bright color causes the player to notice the item. Its a way of telling the player "you can use this thing" without giving it a glowing outline or having a floating arrow pointing at it. Bright yellow just happens to be good at being visible compared to other colors.
Glowing outline would be better tbh. KH3 did it to indicate flowmotion walls. Makes it clear that it's interactible and feels more like UI than part of the game world. I still used a mod to turn off all the wall glows and had no problems other than a bit of trouble finding one chest in Frozen, but that was more because Frozen is a shit world consisting entirely of samey mountains.
>mean what property of yellow indicates "climable" that being a ladder does not?
>red means danger
>green means good
>blue is calming
>white is clean and sterile
>yellow means guidance
On a traffic light green means go, yellow means slow down. But on a banana it's the opposite.
Yellow means climbable because you want to frick asian women. You mount yellow women therefore you mount yellow ledges.
Problem is that a lot of these games are filled with objects that can't be interacted with. Visual clutter, really. So the player has no way of knowing whether something is interactive or not without trying to engage with the object. Imagine there are 10 ladders in a game level and only 1 is interactive. Let's say the player tries to engage with a few and nothing happens. Without yellow paint indicating that ladder #10 is interactive he'd never know because at that point he'd have given up trying to interact with ladders.
>a conveniently placed large crack on the wall
>a conveniently placed item with a spot light on it
>a conveniently empty wide open room
>a conveniently safe room with tons of health and pick ups
why do game devs keep insulting my intelligence?
it's another autistic people getting mad at something hyper-specific
now this is accessible
>has to place vines so that morons know how to climb it
i hate it when nintedo insults my intelligence
But the vines are what you're climbing on. That's like complaining there's a ladder at all.
they shouldve just made almost all walls climbable and built around that
maybe a stamina bar too so you cant climb forever
and the ability to surf on your shield. That'd be fun to see in a zelda game
Still annoyed they cucked shield surfing with durability.
>heres a fun ass mechanic
>also you can only use it for 15 seconds and if you do use it you're fricked out of shields for combat
>have fun 😉
what are you talking about
If you shield surf in BoTW/ToTK your shield will dissolve into dust in mere seconds. Then you have no shields for fights. Which leads to the obvious consequence of people not using a fun mechanic when they could because some jackass developer hates fun.
They should have a rare shield that had poor defense but lasted much longer when surfing,
The ladder really shouldn't have a visually rendered model at all. It's too handholdy. Just put the collision for the ladder there to climb without the baby mode visual indicator, and if casuals can't find it then they deserve to be filtered.
Zelda is a puzzle game You don't give players the answer in those, not immediately at least
I have a better idea. Design your game better so that you can't arbitrarily interact with some objects and not others of the same variety. Don't have ladders if you can't climb them. Don't have a mechanic where you can climb walls but only some selected walls for some reason. Don't have doors you can't interact with, at least let the player walk up and try the handle even if it's permanently locked. And find a better way to stash loot, don't just hide it in wooden crates you have to smash in any game that's supposed to be remotely realistic. Leave that for cartoony platform games.
These are the problems, lazy design choices that lead to yellow paint being necessary in the first place.
moronic measures for moronic people.
Seems fitting.
Did anyone every figure out why, whenever a game uses yellow paint to indicate interactable objects, they are NEVER fully painted yellow but obviously haphazardly splashed with a bit of paint after the fact? Like someone was in a hurry and just threw a bucket of paint onto the ladder. Who is this man running around with a paintbrush drawing yellow X-es onto breakable crates and fixing broken windows with yellow tape, why does he appear in so many games, how does he travel between games, what is his goal? DEEPEST LORE
>he doesn’t use his going into video games machine for the betterment of gamers
I know what kind of man you are anon. Fricking sick.
The squid that vidya needs but doesn’t deserve
Why draw the line at the paint?
I can't believe the game has glowing pillars of light for pick ups. Just bullshit.
lmao ye, you got glowing pillars of light, and people b***h about the light
best part that without those pillars the game plain up wont work, as picking up resources is most important mechanic to keep going
pillars of light are video gamey visual cues. yellow paint is an visual signal that attempts to maintain a game's immersive elements but it ends up being the opposite because it suggests that someone in the game's setting went around painting everything
>something stupid in a movie
>"this is stupid"
>...
>something stupid in a game
>"this is stupid"
>OH MY GOD SHUT THE FRICK UP JESUS CHRIST GAMERS ARE SUCH FRICKING CRYBABIES
This shit annoys me to no end and you can't ever bring it up because people just shout back at you "HEUHEUHEU GAMERS ARE THE MOST OPPRESSED GROUP OF ALL" in that smarmy sarcastic fricking voice.
Like yeah, we kinda fricking are oppressed, actually. We aren't allowed to criticize shit.
>something stupid in a movie
>the movie was still good
>something stupid in a game
>the game is ruined, fricking piece of shit, I'm gonna post about it online for years
yeah because there aren't nerds out there who are still crying about the phantom menace
nope, its just a gamer thing!
The Prequels now look like work of exquisite genius compared to the sequels.
this. the prequels actually function as entertaining movies.
>erds out there who are still crying about the phantom menace
and every single one of them is just as if not more pathetic than the Final Fantasy 7 manbabies are.
Phantom Menace was fricking kino. Fight me.
>kino
You need to go back
can't hear you over the John Williams in my ears
And my wiener down your throat
I still don't understand why they went with yellow ladders and crates in Resident Evil. Why not have bright blood red handprints on ladders and crates? Makes much more sense in the setting for somebody with bloodied hands to use a ladder or for blood to splatter on a crate. And it's still a bright colour that attracts peoples attention. And there's already blood in the game, so it's not like it was a censorship problem.
Because yellow stands out more and is not a common color. Red is a color used as a warning. It would tell players not to break the barrels or climb the ladder because it would be dangerous.
What am I looking at?
why does yellow paint piss off autistic trannies so much?
Boomers really were the most powerful gamers
>spending hours running around just for the solution to be clicking a random pixel somewhere
I feel like some shit were designed just to sell gaming mags
adventure games actually did used to get mocked in magazines if they didn't have at least a couple of mean or obscure puzzles to bang your head against. there was a lot of pressure to be exactly what the stereotype is
i dunno if it was secretly a strategy to sell mags; from what i remember strategy magazines as opposed to regular review mags were mostly a later thing (lucasarts eventually more or less changed that part of the culture by marketing themselves as adventure games but not sadistic).
i think it was just a different market since we didn't have 1000 new games released a month back then. adventure games were almost like the open world games of their time; a setting you could dick around in (confused) for weeks and beating them too soon ruined it
it was that or solitaire
actually now that I think of it there weren't really strategy magazines, but they did sell hint books
space quest 4 had a whole gag puzzle about needing to find the hint book for space quest 4* in a mall to look up the solution
(*or possibly a different space quest, you time travel a lot)
(or possibly it was the hint book for space quest 4, but you visit a mall in a future sequel to find it. actually yeah i think I remember a bargain bin full of copies of liesure suit larry XIV or something)
they came with a special marker to reveal the invisible hints so you could smell your shame.
i don't know anyone who ever bought one, though
Myst doesn't really have anything like that, most of its moronic puzzles are interactions which aren't communicated clearly like the levers which need to be held down.
RIVEN, on the other hand...
MY MOM LOVED THESE GAMES AND WOULD HAVE NOTEBOOKS DEDICATED TO EACH GAME WITH CLUES SHE FOUND
i just realized caps lock was on and im not retyping this shit.
It's okay, clearly you love your point-and-click gamer mom
ha ha typelet
Hentai horror game but instead of yellow paint you follow mysterious trails of white cum in excessive amounts. You almost never see the gigacummer but you hear his gutteral moans in the distance. He is the final boss.
this must have sounded hilarious in your own head
I already subscribed to him on ci-en, stay mad.
The thought of that ladder
but with cum and distant moans still sounds funny in my head tbh.
It is funny though
Damn, you can really see a before and after aplword on this board. Now we get so many contrarians corporate bootlickers it's insane.
its insane how moronic you are
and yet here you are, defending yellow paint like a drooling shit eating homosexual, by fear to be banned from those "official dischord" and from asmongold chat if you dare to be toxic to those poor hard working talented devs you love so much
Never defending the yellow paint, homie.
Go back to playing your survival crafting slop with dollar store pokemon, homosexual.
>I'm not like those corporate bootlickers
>*licks corporations boot*
Yellow paint was a game design employed to show yellow people what to do.
>the image that kills Ganker
yeah, hl2 is overrated enough to kill
IS THAT FRICKING YELLOW PAINT INDICATING WHERE TO GO!?
Not the same shit, moron.
Those symbols tie in with the game's setting and mark completely optional stashes.
so who painted it? if not for the yellow paint man who ruins every game?
Have you played HL2? The first act of the game is following an Underground Railroad route.
???????????????
They're literally rebel territory markers
That entire sequence takes place on a refugee route
you're an actual idiot if you think that sign is to show you were to go.
It's to show that there's a Cache, an ammo box, around in that general area.
It has nothing to do with the ladder outside of just being somewhere obvious for the player to see and go "oh there's ammo around here" and not "oh there's a ladder here I can climb it"
like honestly if you think that symbol IS for the ladder, you're genuinely moronic
>you're an actual idiot if you think that sign is to show you were to go.
>It's to show where to go to find shit
The post implies the Symbol is for the ladder
I never said it wasn't to show the location of something, and honestly you know what? It doesn't
The Ammo cache isn't where that Symbol is, it's in the general area, if it was done today, the Cache would be directly underneath that symbol.
>if it was done today, the Cache would be directly underneath that symbol.
Oh no! Anyway you should get read up on next AAA thing so you can shill it effectively
My point still stands because of four reasons.
1. The majority of the Caches are still hidden away
2. This is during a firefight so it makes sense to have it out in the open when you are running around gunning enemies and not paying attention to the actual environment.
3. These are optional, you don't need to participate with these caches at all in the entire game, you aren't impeded from completing the game because you didn't grab the cache.
4. Not to mention, that Lambda spray has actual lore Significance.
Tell me, what Lore Significance does having Yellow paint on random bits of jutted out rock, crates, ladders, windows, explosive barrels, have?
lambda stands for ladder anon
It's an IRL hobo symbol
Fricking CHUD
Don't play it if you don't like it!
>why are we getting fired en masse, we made games for EVERYONE
>CONSOOOOOOOM
God I hate redditors so goddamn much
But how does that hurt sales
90% of people don't even finish games
50% don't even finish the first level
It's all marketing hype
Why dumb it down for people that will not play your games?
Games don't make money based on progression, what kind of reasoning is that?
Nobody looks at yellow paint in games, thinks "oh yes, finally a moronic game for morons such as myself" and buys it
It only makes people mad because it's fricking stupid
If you're not making your game accessible for the lowest common denominator then you are being ist of some kind.
>more sales
bloating your bugdet and time by 50% to potentially gain like 5% of a 3% occurence is caller losing money.
God, the way these motherfrickers type makes me irrationally angry. Who the frick write like this? Are these frickers autistic?
Each day I believe it more and more.
Do you have more of that NPC shit?
That's very frightening and depressing
There's a DnD campaign like this.
The party gets stuck in a realm that is sealed off from the rest of the world so the big bad can't escape it.
Not even the souls of the dead can escape the bubble. They continually get reborn as new children.
But there are more children born than the original number of souls in the bubble.
So there are people in this realm who are born without souls. Soulless husks that lack the humanity and emotions of regular people.
>At work
>trying to just get through the day
>some dude wants to have a deep heart to heart when I'm on the clock
>ignore him because I'm busy
>repeats himself 4 fricking times before just walking away
>what a weirdo
Anon, stop implying people have different perceptions of others and shouldn't immediately jump to "everyone around me is a soulless automata with no higher states of functioning in any context in their daily life"
Main character syndrome right here.
>mocks others for being npcs
>outs himself as a trump simp
The irony.
>citing a mentally ill twitter troon
not him but troon or not he says the truth
WHAT DO I DO
WHERE DO I GO
HELP ME, YELLOW PAINT
Eridani or Apodis, obviously.
You'll have fun
>Eridani
I'm not saying that the paint isn't obnoxious but all of the anti-yellow paint screeching feels so forced.
It's like people want to be praised for noticing a recurring design feature or something.
>yellow paint has now become the latest dickwaving culture war shit
What a miserable hobby.
This seems like something a few jaded neckbeards talked about and then everyone under the age of 21 adopted it to be pretentious. I don’t think anyone is really upset with this besides twitter troons. Reminds me of people parroting Egoraptors old game design videos.
God of War Ragnarok uses white and red sigils all over climbable surfaces and its shitty too. All of the rocks look the same so its hard to tell where you’re going when the next crevice is out of camera view.
There are people who need constant hand holding to play any videogame.
yes and its moronic, what's your point?
80iqs shouldn't be playing video games, let alone having them catered and designed for them at our expense.
its simple stuff. normies can frickoff
Why does yellow paint drive zoomers insane?
they're the same types of people who think you can't have bright colorful costumes in live action movies
>literally the rarest HL2 achievement
Funny how that werks.
>gen Z cannot figure this out
>has yellow on it
AAAAHHHHH GET RID OF IT!!!
WHY DO GAME DEVS THINK I'M moronic
>he unironically thinks it's about the presence of yellow and not the presentation
inbred
PLAK PLAK PLAK PLAK GET AMMO GET AMMO
"Valid"
kys homosexual
Devs could just put in an option to turn this shit off/make it less pronounced for non morons, but they decide not to (But we have accesiblity options for stuff that ~3 people in a given country have)
Devs are moronic. I don't care if the game has a "give me a story" mode, frick it, put a godmode option in every game, but maybe think about the 90% of your consumers who have played more than ONE videogame before.
>casuals are to blame for this
>games are too mainstream now, bringing in outsiders and ruining them
I don't think general audiences are inherently terrible at games; they just eat up whatever you give them. when most of what the mainstream gets is moron games then players themselves will become moronic.
old mainstream arcade, console and pc games in the past could be way harder and require more effort to get good at. freaking pac-man was a turbo-normie game and it required way more understanding & mastery than most games now.
i love how all the solutions to yellow paint is just yellow paint, but not yellow
WOW IT'S ALMOST LIKE ORGANIC SIGNPOSTING IS GOOD DESIGN AND THERE'S NOTHING WITH ENVIRONMENTAL VISUAL CUES SO LONG AS IT'S NOT FRICKING IMMERSION-SHATTERING YELLOW PAINT SLATHERED EVERYWHERE
>diagetic
my bad
>subtle
Yeah, it's a guidance chart, not a bamboozle chart.
>Ganker defending journalist arrows now
It's okay because it isn't yellow paint
Palworldags were never the rebel kind. they bought because journo told them so. Now they will make you obey their overlord. Or else.
Gamers are intelligent, we don't need yellow paint
If you're offended by the yellow paint instead of just ignoring it then I'm sorry to tell you that you're the exact low IQ mongoloid is was put there for in the first place.
why do you enjoy eating shit?
Please eat the paint to demonstrate your superiority
Imagine going into a maze and there's a yellow arrow on the floor leading you directly towards the exit.
What are you gonna do, just gaslight yourself into believe its not there and intentionally run off in the wrong direction?
They knew. And now the Line has escaped into other games.
Gamers are smart, this is insulting my intelligence!
*Buys a $70 AAA slop + season pass*
Yellow paint BAD
Instead of not supporting game with yellow paint, I'm going to consoom and b***h about it on the internet, gamers are too smart for yellow paint!
>dude just be quiet and ignore it, it will surely go away on its own like all those other cancerous vidya trends that- oh
Wow, a company that treats you like a brainless moron as their baseline decided to listen to your b***hing and remove the paint! Good job! That will show them!
>a company that thinks you're stupid actually listened to your feedback!
That's a bad thing now? Are you insane?
And then you buy the newest season pass and everybody claps and life goes on as if nothing happened
You don't know me, you have no right to assume what I do, but I see you're out of arguments so thanks for clarifying that
>correctly point out stupid thing
>"but you do other stupid thing (source: me) so deal"
It's just hilarious to me that people are making a problem out of such an insignificant thing and they will STILL buy games from that same company even though it's obvious by now you're viewed as a brain damaged moron by them but hey they yellow paint is gone, it's just insane to me
>continues to assume what I do
Don't they call this 'schizophrenia' around these parts
(me)
Okay, I speedread your post, but in this case its assuming what OTHERS do which is the same thing
I didn't refer to you one single time in my post, I was referring to gamers as a whole, who's being the schizo now? The world doesn't revolve around you sweetie
you talk as if like no-longer being treated like a moron is a bad thing
Except YOU aren't being treated like a moron, the actual morons who need to be are.
if you can intuit where to go and what to do sick, then the handholding means nothing, it's not slowing you down, it's not wrenching control away like
did which is double shit since it's already doing the dead space thing of having the very obvious instructions NOT stop the game.
>just gaslight yourself into believing that the blindingly bright yellow paint that you can't ignore isn't actually there.
would you say the same thing if it was drawings of bright red dicks instead of yellow paint?
sometimes the paint is white.
Pointing things out in the environment isn't the issue.
The issue is that the method they went with is just pic related.
You won't be able to find anything without yellow paint, chud.
>zoomers need yellow paint to leave their house
BRUH NO CAP LIKE HOW DO YOU FIND THE GROCERY STORE? IMAGINE STANNING FOR GROCERIES
>FR NO CAP
LEAVING MY ROOM BE LIKE:
*country road song*
*smashcut*
*adhd*
YELLOW BRICK ROAD
Context makes it funnier
> tutorial popup with a video of climbing, that pauses your game
> minimap, that shows that you can pass here
> linear map (you have to climb to progress)
Uhh, this i not what you should worry about, chud.
These are the kind of people who would rob stores during BLM protests then say "this is fine because police brutality is worse".
Why should I care about diversity hires in westoid studios being laid off? It's not like they'd ever be able to put out a good game anyway
X is fine because Y is worse, in my opinion.
Why are twitter morons like thih?
Hey if devs keep putting yellow paint in 100% of them can get laid off for all I care.
Fun Fact. Poppy Playtime last chapter didn't use this very much and people got lost. Believe it or not, people need the spponfeed to no get lost.
Poppy playtime target audience is little kids, so it is understandable
poppy playtimes main audience is streamers and youtube "creators" who have the actual child audience.
>Poppy playtime target audience is
coomers.
It's coomers.
You're wrong
>suddenly out of 10
Uhh you're kinda proving him right
I don't know what are you talking about. This is very tame and sfw
I do wonder if this is part of a greater thing than just vidya.
That with the advent of handheld GPS telling us where to go people stop just naturally building maps in their head and storing landmarks to orient themselves.
There's no need to know how to navigate yourself anymore so the basic skill of having an internal map is not developing.
That's once again down to the visual clutter of the levels.
But even there I'd argue it benefits more from dropping it than keeping it.
It's a horror game remember, from what I've seen of it the part people regarded as 'scariest' was also the one people got lost in the most.
Almost like getting lost while being hunted down by a monster can work to focus the experience.
Yellow paint should be a disability setting, like colorblind mode.
And it should be on by default considering the average gamer IQ
I want a game where we play as yellow paint man. Where you have to explore and experiment yourself and then mark the path.
Why are you trying to force this a meme? It's not funny and Mirror's Edge already did it ages ago.
The instantaneous smug-vexed defence of this shit from gamedevs makes me scared that companies internally want yellow paint to become an industry standard thing like minimaps.
I think that it's just people defending games that they like. Some people get emotional when something they enjoy is criticized in any way.
True but there's also the opposite where people think their brain dead criticism is actually worth anything and become emotional when people ignore them.
Why does it need to become an industry standard. It's so obvious that a plant can get the message.
they know full well they making games for buttom of the barrel morons
re8 is the most soulless re game
6 was kino in comparison
The sign of shit design
It usually means there are a ton of useless objects in the game which lead to player confusion given they look the same as interactive objects.
This is fixed by either making the game more interactive and fun (hard to do, few AAA games do this nowadays) or by removing useless clutter on screen (devs are unwilling to do this since clutter is also le detail le graphics and they'd never scale that down).
Yeah you're right. The devs just need to add more fun, it's literally that easy.
Game being more interactive means game is more engaging which means game is more fun(tm) (for me anyway)
I prefer games that let me interact with the environment instead of having everything be static and fake just for the sake of cluttering the screen
>Developers need to add visual aid because they clutter the game with so much visual noise it'd be impossible to find the objects you can interact with
Graphics were a mistake
when huge button prompt on screen near every interactable objest is not enough. i would love to see their playtesters would play old point and click adventure games lol
>this kind of handholding had been going on for over a decade easily
>only an issue now when the japs do it
hmm
Western games have been worthless garbage for a while so no one cares. No point trying to give feedback when the games are guaranteed to be shite
and we complained about the insulting propagation of white paint on stuff that didn't need it a decade ago too
the disease spreading is a good reason to remind everyone again
We need more games for hardcore gamers like Elden Ring that don't hold players hands! *looks up walkthroughs that guide you through every aspect of the game*
Projecting.
Not at all. There's a reason that the Ranni Ending has a higher achievement rate than the normal Ending.
>B-but it's possible to get it blind! That doesn't prove anything!
Possible? Sure. Likely? No. Plus it's very easy to look it up and verify that guides showing how to get it have millions of views.
Rannis ending has no failure states other than attacking ranni.
Every other ending can be failed before that.
>>B-but it's possible to get it blind! That doesn't prove anything!
Projecting.
it's a popular game. every single person in the world was asking how to frick ranni around the water cooler
Ranni's ending is not only barely hidden, but you have Rodgier's quest from the beggining of the game pushing you toward it.
I don't find it at all hard to believe players would find and progress her quest naturally and then choose it because it gets the most fleshing out besides maybe the frenzied flame.
yeah it's mostly stuff you'll trip over if you're exploring everything before moving on.
her mountain is also a big fricking mystery for most of the game and even has fromsoft-brand wienertease markers on it to troll you into remembering you want to get up there.
only exception I can think of is the dumb doll thing
I got it by bumblefricking my way through it and wanting to look through every square inch of every zone.
You're actually moronic
You'd have to not explore at all to not meet Ranni or Blaid
Sounds like you're defending yourself looking at guides
>game having commuities that share info is LE BAD
lmao not even subtle anymore mr Goldstein.
Why do people. Even on Ganker.
Defend yellow paint etc?
Webm very related.
Am I missing something or did almost all of those people stumble onto the solution by missing a shot? I'm not denying that it's an easy puzzle but it doesn't seem like most of them even solved it.
...it's not a puzzle. That's how you're supposed to proceed, but that guy played it like an old NES game by jumping and shooting horizontally instead of aiming and missing a shot.
>old NES game
Funny thing is you can aim up in the original Metroid, an NES game
The zoomer is intentionally placed there so you have a moment of discovery. it's a very metroid/oldschool nintendo/capcom thing to do
Obviously a few people will miss it but they can't progress so they'll just reach a short mini-version of the "run everywhere and try everything" mode of metroid.
It's a good example of why developers shouldn't be afraid of that, actually. When players get lost or confused it might be excruciating to watch them stumble around in a playtest session, but they're engaged and have basically created a puzzle for themselves that they'll get a little dopamine for eventually solving.
The design job is in rounding off the rough edges and controlling the frequency and extent of those situations so it's not a showstopper.
Removing all possibility for a sense of discovery or personal agency so the game plays itself on autopilot isn't the answer.
Even if not. There is a room prior to this segment where the game introduces breakable blocks and where you have to break blocks to proceed.
So even if you don't miss a shot. The fact that the room is just a dead end with a corridor proceeding forwards just above the one tile ceiling. Should clue you in even if you didn't stumble upon it.
>webm
I would do same and I'm a zoomer. Based old gamer.
OH MY GUCCII!!!!!!!!!11111111
IS THAT- LIMINAL SPACE WITH YELLOW PAINT?!
AAAAAAAAAAAA IM GOING DEADASSS FRRRRR
Damn you really really want that big fat corporate wiener in your mouth today
Anyone else find it oddly peculiar that there's been roughly 3-4 "yellow paint" threads today? Is this a raid doesn't seem genuine that today is why it's suddenly spiked.
It's went viral on Twitter, that's why.
Ahh newbies and tourists sperging out again over social media.
Say what you will but the average person is actually fricking moronic. Some dude at work was playing Neverwinter Nights and quit the game after spending 2 hours trying to leave the first campfire because the game wouldn't let him leave it. He just had to put on his equipment. People really are that stupid.
>european hours
>suddenly the board gets flooded with threads complaining about the yellow paint again
Get some new material already. Or scripts, for that matter.
Labor-intensive design: you use innate human characteristics (present in even the most moronic) to create intuitive environments where people can explore satisfactorily without outside help.
Lazy design: you paint things yellow
The yellow paint shows the problem with modern industry, it is extremely lazy. I don't know why, maybe modern food makes people lethargic, or maybe making games is so complex that if people don't always choose the path of least effort, the game will never get finished.