Yeah, I actually just checked the COMG numbers and they were higher than I expected. It's like up to 160 now. It's going to be fun to see how it turns out regardless. I do think people were overly pessimistic on it
11 months ago
Anonymous
The numbers will be massively inflated by bundle sales that are being sent to China.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Cmon anon, FF still has massive pull in JP. It'll boast healthy numbers and be a good success.
you think this is an own but the reason the Switch doesn't have any movie games is because it's an underpowered POS that can't run them so it's not like they have a choice lol
BotW and TotK are far from perfect games, but they at least tried to push forward more complex physics interactions in games. On the Switch of all platforms. I have no idea why it was Nintendo of all companies to try it. It feels like all progression on that front has stopped from every dev since the early 2000s.
>I have no idea why it was Nintendo of all companies to try it
Because it's Nintendo almost always the company who creates a new golden standard in videogames. It happened with Super Mario 64, it happened with Ocarina of Time, it happened with the N64 joystick, with the Wiimote that Sony shamelessly copied years later and it once again happened with BotW as evidenced with the several clones that popped later which used a lot of the same mechanics that game brought, such as Genshin Impact. The Switch itself is a new standard as shown by Valve creating the Steam Deck or Sony and their pathetic attempt at a Wii U tablet knockoff.
How do they do it? The Switch is the most underpowered hardware and isn't even really a console. The current gen console run circles around it in just from their boot up UI alone and THIS is the one that has all the actual video games.
How? Someone explain how the least powerful console is the one that has the games?
Nintendo's hardware is shit so they live or die on releasing games to bait people into buying it. Sony and Xbox have way lower attach rates for games because bored teenagers and bachelors just buy them for the sake of owning them, maybe buying 1 game a year if that.
>most underpowered hardware and isn't even really a console
They do it precisely because of this, not in spite of it. PlayStation, Xbox, and PC games taking advantage of the powerful hardware focus on looking closest to reality. Nintendo isn't shackled by realism, they focus on what will be fun to play.
Because, moron, what you're looking at is the result of companies pandering to graphics/realism gays. Games so big that they tank hard drives, demanding absurd amounts of spaces, uncompressed and lazily put together to avoid time because they're already on a deadline with an 80 hour crunch week to appease their corpo overlords to line their pockets.
You are witnessing a potential second vidya crash. One led by the lost sight of innovation, blinded purely by haphazard greedy fricks who think that more detail in a game = more sales. And then when homosexuals, geniune numb minded, sub IQ, near clinically braindead NPC's buy it, the cycle deepens. Now everyone's putting money up for brand recognition of other IPs, not because they could make a new game, but so to goad players with a theoretical carrot stick. Sony freaking out over losing COD is a pure example. They can just have the westoids shit out a game and it'll print money because of NPCs.
Most AAA games aren't design to be fun, they're designed to be consumable. That's how it's been for the past 10 years. Now Nintendo is definitely resting on their laurels with the Switch's success, and I do hope someone can force them to panic, but their games STILL adhere to fun. Whether it's appealing to your own sensibilities is a different subject, but there is some sort of soul in each game of theirs.
Frick, if anything, I hope a crash happens. I hope we get worse consoles with worse graphic capabilities and teraflops or sharts or whatever bullshit they spew, frick the whole thing and go back to square one. Force devs to bring out the maximum potential in a limited console, make the company earn their millions for less time and better optimization. I think that's the only way this market can truly turn around, because what we have now is just a front row seat to the endgame: a market where Nintendo is the ruler again. And I don't think that'd be a good thing.
Because they (mostly) keep identity politics out of their games.
People don't want fantasy to remind them of the real life things that piss them off.
Go figure.
Because that's not why people buy consoles anymore. I don't know why so many on Ganker can't see the obvious. In some ways Sony won the console war back in the N64 days, but definitely around Gamecube. The result of Nintendo losing meant they bowed out of the hardware arms race and approached different avenues. You buy a switch for portability, exclusives, and hardware gimmicks. Nowadays everyone is multiplat either via your phone and your PC. The need for a bulky black gaming box is VERY niche now. You're never going to need more than one, so why compete on that front?
PC and Switch is all you need. And I'm hesitant to get into PC gaming because it sounds like a colossal pain in the ass to troubleshoot everything and keeping up with hardware seems expensive. I like my Switch because when I want to play something I'm playing it in less than a minute. Not fricking with an emulator or waiting for Steam to boot then having to troubleshoot to figure out why the game keeps crashing.
PC gaming is fine, but you have to accept that every 5-8 years you'll have to dump a few hundred dollars into it to keep things up to date if you want to play new games above the quality of consoles.
I'll say this. The "you have to troubleshoot" everything is very much overblown. No doubt you'll probably run into 1 or 2 problems every few years, but it's in no way a regular occurrence. Go for it man. I say this as someone who is also PC + Nintendo as of last gen.
I don't know you're friend, but all I can speak on is my own personal experiences. For me, I love having the PC and rarely ever have any issues with it. There's a good chance that since you're here, you're at least familiar with PCs on a basic level and understand that just having a "gaming PC" doesn't mean you're going to be playing something like Starfield at 4K 60 on all ultra settings unless you have the components for that.
Seriously, look at PCPartpicker and go check out the PC build general on Ganker to get a good idea for how you should go about building yours. There are also a load of videos on YouTube you can use too.
As someone who used to be pretty much nintendo only and am now pc only, I play far more games on pc that I never have problems with that I would never be able to play on the switch to begin with. Shit just works, even on the deck. If I do have an issue it's almost always with an ancient game, but there's so many community patches, fixes and guides, it's painless. You'll inevitably run into some game that's too much effort to get working, but chances are that game isn't available anywhere else anymore anyway and there's such a massive amount of cheap or free games on pc you're spoiled for choice.
>Someone explain how the least powerful console is the one that has the games?
Because in order to develop for a Nintendo handheld you do not need powerful equipment and the gradual advance allows developers to accommodate and adapt. The Wii U was rough because Nintendo admitted their developers were getting used to developing Xbox 360 era games and the time and budget for the projects was larger than they had anticipated.
In contrast, Microsoft and Sony started selling hardware at a loss to beat the competition and invested heavily into few multimillion projects and the cost are so massive they had to eventually port the titles to PC to break even but simultaneously did not have experienced developers to use the new hardware and therefore have NO GAMES.
So it is safe to assume that the next Nintendo platform might be as powerful as Ps4 or early Xbox One models in 2026 but will have more games while MS will have no exclusives and Sony will only have temporal exclusives and it is safe to assume that the complete PS5 game library counting only exclusives might be composed of about 10 titles, same as Vita.
And this is all MS fault for trying to play catch up with PC users and even the most popular PC games use yesteryear GPUs. You can still get a good mileage out of a 1660 Super.
they're actually taking advantage of their consumer grade hardware unlike snoy and might-get-soft almost any dev studio in the market right now to make game development easier and quicker, so they're cranking out a lot of gaemz, and they're still using their own engines assuming they didn't just pay the fee to remove the start up "made in unity" logo
>Final Fantasy XVI >Final Fantasy VII ReBirth >Spider-Man 2 >Horizon Forbidden West >God of War Ragnarok >Returnal >Dragon's Dogma 2 >Horizon Burning Shore >Armored Core VII >Wolverine >Ghosts of Tsushima 4K >Grand Turismo 7 >Foamstars >Metal Gear Solid Triangle >Forspoken >Death Stranding 2 >Ratchet and Clank A Rift Apart
>could be good but also coming to other consoles this is square you know this >same as above >okay i guess >also inevitably coming to PC >same as above >shit >also coming to other consoles its capcom >dont know it >dont know it >also inevitably coming to PC >same as above >fair >lol >lol >shit >shit >ratchet hasnt been good in years
>could be good but also coming to other consoles this is square you know this >same as above >other two games are on pc >also inevitably coming to PC >same as above >on p >no exclusive, confirmed for pc and xbox >same as forbidden west >coming to pc and xbox >also inevitably coming to PC >same as above >same as the other driving games >lol >lol >shit >first is on pc, will be too >ratchet hasnt been good in years
PC. >b-but that's not a c-cons-
PC. >b-but p-portabi-
PC.
It has all your games in a far better state with far more freedom and you're not locked down to some israelite corporation's shitty drm hardware and anti-consumer bullshit.
too bad there's no freedom in where i can take it >but you can carry it
can't play it during a lecture, so i'll play on my vita instead >but steam deck
i like my handhelds built for humans
>enjoy playing shit officially on real hardware >emulating switch just makes everything look and in some cases run so much fricking better
I fricking hate this shit. Where the frick is the Switch 2?
February: >Metroid Prime Remastered >Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Expansion Pass Wave 3 >Kirby’s Return to Dream Land Deluxe >Splatoon 3 Expansion Pass Wave 1 - Inkopolis
March: >Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass [Wave 4] >Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon >You Are Already Thin! Fitness Boxing Fist of the North Star
April: >Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp
May: >The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
June: >Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope - DLC 2: The Last Spark Hunter >Pikmin HD >Pikmin 2 HD >Everybody 1-2-Switch >Master Detective Archives: RAIN CODE
July: >Pikmin 4 >Disney Illusion Island
September: >Baten Kaitos I & II HD Remaster
October: >Silent Hope >Detective Pikachu Returns >Super Mario Bros. Wonder
November: >Fashion Dreamer >WarioWare: Move It! >Super Mario RPG Remake
December: >Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince
Announced for 2023: >FANTASY LIFE i: The Girl Who Steals Time >Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass [Wave 5] >Natsu-Mon! 20th Century Summer Vacation >Pokémon Scarlet & Violet: The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero >Samba de Amigo: Party Central
Beyond: >Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon Remaster >Metroid Prime 4 >Penny's Big Breakaway >Unnamed Princess Peach game >Professor Layton and The New World of Steam >Resident Evil Outrage aka Revelations 3
Nope.
Cope Snoy troony, enjoy beta testing spidey 2 for us PC master Race.
>someone expresses opposing opinion
>REEEEEEEE SONY FANS
calm down schizo.
Games that hold back the industry from advancing and becoming true art? Yep, tendie pedo games do just that.
gonna cry?
See you in the Famitsu thread!
Tomorrow should be be fun since it's right after the Direct and then next week will be fun because we'll see FFXVI numbers
FFXVI is set to do huge numbers in Japan so far. It's tracking way higher than expected.
Yeah, I actually just checked the COMG numbers and they were higher than I expected. It's like up to 160 now. It's going to be fun to see how it turns out regardless. I do think people were overly pessimistic on it
The numbers will be massively inflated by bundle sales that are being sent to China.
Cmon anon, FF still has massive pull in JP. It'll boast healthy numbers and be a good success.
>true art aka movie """games"""
you think this is an own but the reason the Switch doesn't have any movie games is because it's an underpowered POS that can't run them so it's not like they have a choice lol
They could make movie games in an aesthetic the Switch could handle easily.
Nintendo just isn't run by morons or Americans (whats the difference?)
BotW and TotK are far from perfect games, but they at least tried to push forward more complex physics interactions in games. On the Switch of all platforms. I have no idea why it was Nintendo of all companies to try it. It feels like all progression on that front has stopped from every dev since the early 2000s.
>I have no idea why it was Nintendo of all companies to try it
Because it's Nintendo almost always the company who creates a new golden standard in videogames. It happened with Super Mario 64, it happened with Ocarina of Time, it happened with the N64 joystick, with the Wiimote that Sony shamelessly copied years later and it once again happened with BotW as evidenced with the several clones that popped later which used a lot of the same mechanics that game brought, such as Genshin Impact. The Switch itself is a new standard as shown by Valve creating the Steam Deck or Sony and their pathetic attempt at a Wii U tablet knockoff.
Art is inherently inferior to video games
But video games are art.
>true art
Someone searching for true art wouldn't be wasting his time shitposting in a videogame imageboard, you stupid monkey.
Wii would like to play
How do they do it? The Switch is the most underpowered hardware and isn't even really a console. The current gen console run circles around it in just from their boot up UI alone and THIS is the one that has all the actual video games.
How? Someone explain how the least powerful console is the one that has the games?
You answered your own question dumbo. It's because it's the least powerful they can crank out games for it.
Nintendo's hardware is shit so they live or die on releasing games to bait people into buying it. Sony and Xbox have way lower attach rates for games because bored teenagers and bachelors just buy them for the sake of owning them, maybe buying 1 game a year if that.
>most underpowered hardware and isn't even really a console
They do it precisely because of this, not in spite of it. PlayStation, Xbox, and PC games taking advantage of the powerful hardware focus on looking closest to reality. Nintendo isn't shackled by realism, they focus on what will be fun to play.
Because, moron, what you're looking at is the result of companies pandering to graphics/realism gays. Games so big that they tank hard drives, demanding absurd amounts of spaces, uncompressed and lazily put together to avoid time because they're already on a deadline with an 80 hour crunch week to appease their corpo overlords to line their pockets.
You are witnessing a potential second vidya crash. One led by the lost sight of innovation, blinded purely by haphazard greedy fricks who think that more detail in a game = more sales. And then when homosexuals, geniune numb minded, sub IQ, near clinically braindead NPC's buy it, the cycle deepens. Now everyone's putting money up for brand recognition of other IPs, not because they could make a new game, but so to goad players with a theoretical carrot stick. Sony freaking out over losing COD is a pure example. They can just have the westoids shit out a game and it'll print money because of NPCs.
Most AAA games aren't design to be fun, they're designed to be consumable. That's how it's been for the past 10 years. Now Nintendo is definitely resting on their laurels with the Switch's success, and I do hope someone can force them to panic, but their games STILL adhere to fun. Whether it's appealing to your own sensibilities is a different subject, but there is some sort of soul in each game of theirs.
Frick, if anything, I hope a crash happens. I hope we get worse consoles with worse graphic capabilities and teraflops or sharts or whatever bullshit they spew, frick the whole thing and go back to square one. Force devs to bring out the maximum potential in a limited console, make the company earn their millions for less time and better optimization. I think that's the only way this market can truly turn around, because what we have now is just a front row seat to the endgame: a market where Nintendo is the ruler again. And I don't think that'd be a good thing.
Because they (mostly) keep identity politics out of their games.
People don't want fantasy to remind them of the real life things that piss them off.
Go figure.
Because that's not why people buy consoles anymore. I don't know why so many on Ganker can't see the obvious. In some ways Sony won the console war back in the N64 days, but definitely around Gamecube. The result of Nintendo losing meant they bowed out of the hardware arms race and approached different avenues. You buy a switch for portability, exclusives, and hardware gimmicks. Nowadays everyone is multiplat either via your phone and your PC. The need for a bulky black gaming box is VERY niche now. You're never going to need more than one, so why compete on that front?
PC and Switch is all you need. And I'm hesitant to get into PC gaming because it sounds like a colossal pain in the ass to troubleshoot everything and keeping up with hardware seems expensive. I like my Switch because when I want to play something I'm playing it in less than a minute. Not fricking with an emulator or waiting for Steam to boot then having to troubleshoot to figure out why the game keeps crashing.
PC gaming is fine, but you have to accept that every 5-8 years you'll have to dump a few hundred dollars into it to keep things up to date if you want to play new games above the quality of consoles.
I'll say this. The "you have to troubleshoot" everything is very much overblown. No doubt you'll probably run into 1 or 2 problems every few years, but it's in no way a regular occurrence. Go for it man. I say this as someone who is also PC + Nintendo as of last gen.
All I hear from my friend who has a gayman PC is b***hing about hardware issues, I don't know, maybe he's just moronic.
I don't know you're friend, but all I can speak on is my own personal experiences. For me, I love having the PC and rarely ever have any issues with it. There's a good chance that since you're here, you're at least familiar with PCs on a basic level and understand that just having a "gaming PC" doesn't mean you're going to be playing something like Starfield at 4K 60 on all ultra settings unless you have the components for that.
Seriously, look at PCPartpicker and go check out the PC build general on Ganker to get a good idea for how you should go about building yours. There are also a load of videos on YouTube you can use too.
As someone who used to be pretty much nintendo only and am now pc only, I play far more games on pc that I never have problems with that I would never be able to play on the switch to begin with. Shit just works, even on the deck. If I do have an issue it's almost always with an ancient game, but there's so many community patches, fixes and guides, it's painless. You'll inevitably run into some game that's too much effort to get working, but chances are that game isn't available anywhere else anymore anyway and there's such a massive amount of cheap or free games on pc you're spoiled for choice.
It's all Wii U ports and remakes
>Someone explain how the least powerful console is the one that has the games?
Because in order to develop for a Nintendo handheld you do not need powerful equipment and the gradual advance allows developers to accommodate and adapt. The Wii U was rough because Nintendo admitted their developers were getting used to developing Xbox 360 era games and the time and budget for the projects was larger than they had anticipated.
In contrast, Microsoft and Sony started selling hardware at a loss to beat the competition and invested heavily into few multimillion projects and the cost are so massive they had to eventually port the titles to PC to break even but simultaneously did not have experienced developers to use the new hardware and therefore have NO GAMES.
So it is safe to assume that the next Nintendo platform might be as powerful as Ps4 or early Xbox One models in 2026 but will have more games while MS will have no exclusives and Sony will only have temporal exclusives and it is safe to assume that the complete PS5 game library counting only exclusives might be composed of about 10 titles, same as Vita.
And this is all MS fault for trying to play catch up with PC users and even the most popular PC games use yesteryear GPUs. You can still get a good mileage out of a 1660 Super.
I'd bet money it launched YouTube or Hulu faster than either of the others. I know the PS4 takes an eternity to navigate to and launch any video app.
they're actually taking advantage of their consumer grade hardware unlike snoy and might-get-soft almost any dev studio in the market right now to make game development easier and quicker, so they're cranking out a lot of gaemz, and they're still using their own engines assuming they didn't just pay the fee to remove the start up "made in unity" logo
>The current gen console run circles around it
Or they might if they had any games.
it actually has fun games though
Hardware is just a means, not an end.
Anyway, looks like the Switch is gonna be the last emulatable console.
Dedicated consumers could rarely be good businessmen. Case in point.
The only reason to ever get a console is for the exclusives so which console out of the PS5, Xbox and Switch has the most exclusive games?
PS5
>Final Fantasy XVI
>Final Fantasy VII ReBirth
>Spider-Man 2
>Horizon Forbidden West
>God of War Ragnarok
>Returnal
>Dragon's Dogma 2
>Horizon Burning Shore
>Armored Core VII
>Wolverine
>Ghosts of Tsushima 4K
>Grand Turismo 7
>Foamstars
>Metal Gear Solid Triangle
>Forspoken
>Death Stranding 2
>Ratchet and Clank A Rift Apart
All shit
*Also on PC
Not a switch
>could be good but also coming to other consoles this is square you know this
>same as above
>okay i guess
>also inevitably coming to PC
>same as above
>shit
>also coming to other consoles its capcom
>dont know it
>dont know it
>also inevitably coming to PC
>same as above
>fair
>lol
>lol
>shit
>shit
>ratchet hasnt been good in years
your point?
Gonna fix some things in anons list
>could be good but also coming to other consoles this is square you know this
>same as above
>other two games are on pc
>also inevitably coming to PC
>same as above
>on p
>no exclusive, confirmed for pc and xbox
>same as forbidden west
>coming to pc and xbox
>also inevitably coming to PC
>same as above
>same as the other driving games
>lol
>lol
>shit
>first is on pc, will be too
>ratchet hasnt been good in years
definitely not the switch
If we're counting emulation, you can emulate most PS5 games on any device that has YouTube.
Not the shitch
PC.
>b-but that's not a c-cons-
PC.
>b-but p-portabi-
PC.
It has all your games in a far better state with far more freedom and you're not locked down to some israelite corporation's shitty drm hardware and anti-consumer bullshit.
too bad there's no freedom in where i can take it
>but you can carry it
can't play it during a lecture, so i'll play on my vita instead
>but steam deck
i like my handhelds built for humans
t. "human"
The Switch by far has more than any other and it isn't even close.
oh great, more fricking woke bullshit in my videogames.
>Eric seething already
Hilarious
I'm not "Eric" you dumbass tendie chud
Then why did you reply to him, Eric?
>enjoy playing shit officially on real hardware
>emulating switch just makes everything look and in some cases run so much fricking better
I fricking hate this shit. Where the frick is the Switch 2?
It doesn't have Persona 3 Reload, tendie.
Why no M? There are plenty of M rated games on the Switch.
Nintendo Switch 2023 so far
January:
>Fire Emblem Engage
February:
>Metroid Prime Remastered
>Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Expansion Pass Wave 3
>Kirby’s Return to Dream Land Deluxe
>Splatoon 3 Expansion Pass Wave 1 - Inkopolis
March:
>Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass [Wave 4]
>Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon
>You Are Already Thin! Fitness Boxing Fist of the North Star
April:
>Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp
May:
>The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
June:
>Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope - DLC 2: The Last Spark Hunter
>Pikmin HD
>Pikmin 2 HD
>Everybody 1-2-Switch
>Master Detective Archives: RAIN CODE
July:
>Pikmin 4
>Disney Illusion Island
September:
>Baten Kaitos I & II HD Remaster
October:
>Silent Hope
>Detective Pikachu Returns
>Super Mario Bros. Wonder
November:
>Fashion Dreamer
>WarioWare: Move It!
>Super Mario RPG Remake
December:
>Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince
Announced for 2023:
>FANTASY LIFE i: The Girl Who Steals Time
>Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass [Wave 5]
>Natsu-Mon! 20th Century Summer Vacation
>Pokémon Scarlet & Violet: The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero
>Samba de Amigo: Party Central
Beyond:
>Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon Remaster
>Metroid Prime 4
>Penny's Big Breakaway
>Unnamed Princess Peach game
>Professor Layton and The New World of Steam
>Resident Evil Outrage aka Revelations 3
Feels good lads
>3D allstars
>god tier
Never stop being funny Ganker, you guys make my day
Eric and Barry are in full multithread seething more right now. Tomorrow we'll encounter both in the Famitsu sales thread most likely.
>Nintendo Switch has Remakes and Ports
FTFY
Isn't one of PS5s big games a PORT of the FF7 REMAKE?
*remakes and remasters
Ninten-dose what gay station don't
Nintendo can't get Persona 3 Reload and Metaphor.
Oh yeah? then name 1000.
Lucky I have one along with 20 other consoles