TOW was dead the moment GW decided to appeal to the fantasy fanbase: obese grogs who haven’t bought a model in 20 years and moronic poor total war secondaries.
Right back to trannies since your Hispanic ass got caught comparing warhammer fantasy to fricking dark souls you stupid ESL b***h. Dont you have russian tartar sauce to complain about
And they are borring because..?
Also, what is FEC?
6 months ago
Anonymous
>constant discussion of FFFFFFlesh EEEEEEEEEater CCCCCCCCCCourts going on in thread >you, an idiot, a buffoon, a veritable test tube homunculus: "what could FEC possibly stand for??? I just don't get it....."
TOWcucks really aren't sending their best.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Well sorry, I am not playing AoS and I am surely not wasting time reading every post in 2 days old thread.
So what is FEC?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Instead your seething at posts you don't even read, apparently. >So what is FEC?
I won't deprive you of this knowledge journey, my precious lil brainlet.
>repeating yourself with the same moronic strawman twice
Now now anon, we're talking about AoS here, not HH.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>only talks about FEC >muh strawman
I accept your concession
6 months ago
Anonymous
>jumps into a discussion about FEC and gets mad that people are discussing FEC >meanwhile remains hyperfixated on one (1) model in an otherwise alright range for coming up on 3 months now
Genuinely unhinged behavior
6 months ago
Anonymous
>OP about TK release for TOW >uhmm ackshually its an FEC thread
what goes on between you and your fec models in the privacy of your own home is your own business but dont shart up /tg/ with your necro fetish
Flesh Eater Courts are the best idea AoS had and it's not even close. Plus they got lucky with getting new models now, when GW are finally beginning to learn not to overdesign everything in CAD. Something it's taken them 20 years almost to do.
This is honestly the funniest picture i've ever seen on the internet
The hair, the nose, the vaguely threatening gesture in the chair, the white men carrying her as her inferiors, versus the Bretonnian woman on her horse in her flowing gown, the difference in size between the AoS womans massive skull and the Brets, her caveman-tier bone structure making her look like a baboon versus the Brets elegant face, the remnants of what appear to be sideburns on the side of her face versus the Bretonnian's clear cheeks, the intense expression on the PoC face versus the feminie expression on the bret, the sheer difference in size between their torsos - hers is probably double the size of the Brets due to scale creep, her masculine profile with his chin jutting out and her ugly face. i could go on, but you get the idea
all of this contrasted with the constant assertion that these people are identical to Empire character and there is no meaningful difference between them makes for the most exquisite form of irony when their differences are juxtaposed so vividly
the contrast is almost divine - on the left is man's hubris, his desire to capture the beauty of nature and make it his own, his cerebral and conscious understanding of what it means to be what he thinks he is, his intentional "becoming", while on the right is nature, effortless being, no doctors appointments or hormones or surgery, just an "is" that needs nothing added to it in order to be complete
he tries so hard and yet, the harder he tries to "become", the further he takes himself away from the effortless "is" that is the thing he wants to be
it's comedy on a cosmic scale, a joke only god himself could come up with
You cannot convince me someone in GW didn’t do this intentionally. Same with the other awful models, I think they want TOW to fail, none of it fits the aesthetic at all.
Oh yeah I'll go play TOW with my Skav- oh.
Never mind that; I can just use my chaos dwa- oh.
Well oh well, at least I can pick up Vampire Counts; I've always wanted to try th- oh.
There's already model lines for skaven and undead though, and chaos dwarves are a dlc faction for game already made of of dlc factions
6 months ago
Anonymous
>There's already model lines for skaven and undead though
That's not the issue. The issue is that they're getting "here your bare minimum; now frick off" Legends-in-all-but-name rules.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>"here your bare minimum; now frick off"
Precisely what ratgays deserve until they are finally squatted.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Gotta love how Ganker morons are so brain-rotten that they are mentally incapable of not missing the forest for the trees.
In case your desiccated and dust-choked brain forgot, skaven are not the only army getting this treatment.
They're getting rules but not new models or model refreshes because their ranges are still available for use in AoS (except for chorfs because they'll be hitting Age of Sigmar in 2 years tops)
Except AoS buldozez those armies all the time without any care for compatiblity, basedou can't actually play Vampire Coutns because all the characters are squated and some basic kits have replacments that don't fit aesthetically
>They're getting rules
They'll be getting never-updated pdfs with the most barebones rules imaginable that will be incompatible with the game within a year
Wrong. The post is moronic. I'm one of those old grogs and I'm gonna paypig like you wouldn't believe. I'm gonna buy the shit out of this game, I'm gonna throw money at GW with the speed of light. And I can, because old grogs have one in common - they can afford it.
You misunderstand me. I am interested in GW product. But not only in GW product.
How many threads have the warhammer-haters made just about this single bone dragon model?
While other manufacturers get zero attention at all.
It's real but he's left GW already. Though with posts like that they probably are gonna have NDA's that will continue x amount of years after employement has ended.
paid by games workshop to make it so they never have to credit sculptors and sculptors never get to credit themselves.
I don't get how you can be sculpting the centre piece for a main faction and just a year or two later be OUT of the company.
there's no lore inconsistency, in warmaster the undead army that also represented tomb kings had a dragon, there were undead dragons in one of the old tk artworks and there have been mentions of tk fighting dragons at times
There's no lore issue. Nehekhara is situated close to the Plain of Bones which was home to dying dragons as well as a source of corpses to animate. Its referenced as the Plains of Plenty in the 6E book and is old Nehekharan territory.
There's artwork depicting Nehekharan dragons as well.
The issues are that:
A. The design is shit and looks nothing like a classic dragon or those depicted in earlier Nehekharan imagery.
B. It's likely to be an extremely expensive mount for Lords, which means it's maybe one per army and competes directly with the existing Warsphinx option.
C. It could have been anything else that the TK range is desperately lacking.
Sorry just havin a laugh. The last one is an AoS name and complaint, I know they're for placing (Your Dudes) in.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Oh I am all for laughs. There are places called old asses, circumcision of virigins etc No shortage of funny and "funny" names in real life. Just wanted to explain. I was never in favour of the "Others can't make fun of the things I like" especialy if they go hand in hand with "I have full rights to make fun of their stuff".
true although it's called a 'necrolith' dragon, so either it's fossilized and reanimated like other stone constructs or it has been carved out of stone. Or GW just forget what necrolith refers to.
There are tons of good examples of this being stupid and true in AoS, but in this case it actually makes sense. He's the leader of a group of feral monsters, of course they're going to look up to the biggest, nastiest guy. The same is true of orcs and other savage factions.
He's not just a big ghoul, though. He's like 20-times the size of a ghoul. Orcs are a special case, as well, as not only is their social hierarchy based upon size, but an Orc will also become larger simply from being in charge.
Do ghouls have a bigness-savageness inverse relationship? Meaning, are the Horrors also more bestial/dumber than regular ghouls? I could accept (and prefer) Ushoran the size of one of those, except much smarter.
He's a dark souls boss, it's fine.
>videogameification of tabletop
Not sure about this.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Sort of. It depends on what they eat. Horrors drink some of the Ghoul King's blood and so become bigger, stronger and with regeneration to be their bodyguards. Flayers eat Terrorgheist flesh and so get bigger, get wings and the ability to supersonic scream to become skirmishers. Offal hounds eat shitty animals and so turn into pets.
To be fair, those are the mordants (living) rather than the abhorrents (undead). But archregents do change somewhat and the new gorewardens somehow grow wings. It's not unlikely that as the most ancient abhorrent, Ushoran has ate the best and so grown into a big boi.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Thanks, anon. I ask because the basic ghouls are look like they're using real weapons, while the more monstrous ones are using either clubs or just their claws/teeth; as if there's an association between ghoul size and intelligence. Not meaning that a big ghoul has to be dumb, but there's usually a trade-off.
There are tons of good examples of this being stupid and true in AoS, but in this case it actually makes sense. He's the leader of a group of feral monsters, of course they're going to look up to the biggest, nastiest guy. The same is true of orcs and other savage factions.
It's a good design, but should be significantly scaled down. Scenic bases are moronic; the model's footprint is twice as large as it needs to be even at Ushoran's current size (reminder: it needs to be moved around on a gaming table). They didn't go overboard with MUH DETAILS, which is nice, but it could be toned down/made slightly less EXTREME.
It's the only GW product, outside of some side game stuff, that has any passion behind it.
40k is a semi-automated 9-5 grind and tOw is an actual corporate mandated slop nobody wants to do but has to
I don't see "passion" in AoS, but their visual design staff are apparently given wide reign instead of having strict guidelines. For better and worse.
I'm not interested in Horus Heresy at all, but that's the best GW range in terms of model design (remember kids: sometimes less is more), and probably has the most care put into it by the staff. (note: don't like the Primarch models. Frick off with the scenic bases).
>I'm not interested in Horus Heresy at all, but that's the best GW range in terms of model design
Lmao, get a load of this marinepiggy shill tryna be subtle
>but that's the best GW range in terms of model design
marine fricker alert
Spess Marine wankery is the worst thing about 40k; I'd never collect them myself. I like the Horus Heresy model range because they aren't moronicly over-designed and the sculptors seem to understand the setting.
> HH designers UNDERSTAND the SETTING
Topkek the H community has shit on damn near every release for the past year.
You don't own any models you secondary homosexual
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Secondary! Secondary!
Is this supposed to be a put-down? You sound like a little homosexual.
And yes, I don't own any HH models, as previously stated. As I understand, the HH community has mainly objected to releasing too many giant vehicles instead of basic infantry, as well as not even attempting to equally represent the different Legions, but, I am looking at it all from a distance.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>I think HH looks the best! >no, I don't actually own any models >no, I haven't actually looked at the models enough to realize how poorly modeled they all are >but they're the best! honest!
Loretuber binging tertiary detected
> but that's the best GW range in terms of model design (remember kids: sometimes less is more)
I don't hate HW era marines, but come the frick on.
[...]
Spess Marine wankery is the worst thing about 40k; I'd never collect them myself. I like the Horus Heresy model range because they aren't moronicly over-designed and the sculptors seem to understand the setting.
My thoughts as well. Horus Heresy narrative is moronic but the models are cool. Modern models are too over designed. There were some silly old models (like Necrons wraiths) but none of them came off as over designed to me until 5th with the vehicles and it’s only gotten worse since then since they want to sell centerpiece characters.
You meant to say necromunda, AOS is just as uninspired as the rest. Unfortunately, GW's stuff aren't passion projects like the past, it's just work for them.
This has to be bait. Smegmar is the epitome of "corporate-mandated slop". From tol to bottom, it is utterly soulless, asagend was in fact designed from the beginning to be soulless, so that anything and everything could be injected by committee design decree. From the marketing department's PoV, it's not a bug, it's a feature.
> Is the only GW game with creative freedom and artistic licence > Use pseudo intellectual buzzwords and catchphrases like *corporate* to rail against said game
I don't want inconsistency and fairweather design. I want vision and cohesion. All artists and writers should be pulling in the same direction. Otherwise, they're pulling against each other with whatever seems cool (or more importantly: marketable, nice freedom there) at the moment.
If your freedom gives me concepts as trite and dated-at-conception as steampunk dwarves in tophats, I'm ok with that shit idea getting filtered out.
I mean Death, Chaos and Destruction grand alliances follow pretty cohesive design philosophies. I'll take it over a setting that can't do anything new or creative. People are still shitting themselves over Tau and it's been 20 years.
And why must these criticisms always fall back on such tiresome hyperbole, there is literally a dwarf in a top hat and theyre only steampunk in the sense they vaguely imitate steampunk aesthetic with bronze pressure suits. Airships are fricking cool.
>heavy armor guy with tower shield and sword gear, who's helmet is a face mask, he can raise his weapin to have it struck by lightning
Who am i talking about?
>Who am i talking about?
About sigmarine, since you've missed plenty of DS2 details
6 months ago
Anonymous
Are you just that unwilling to admit you're wrong or is it computer day at the hospital for mentally chellanged?
6 months ago
Anonymous
I will easily admit that I am wrong once you show me the same european cuirass on sigmarines, calm face instead of copy of Dante's helmet, rich thorns decoration instead of random lighting bolts motifs
6 months ago
Anonymous
>minor details are off, so sce and lgk aren't related >but Ushoran is totaly an Elden Ring boss
6 months ago
Anonymous
God damn grogs b***h about troon secondaries all day, just for Gankerermin ESL to be just as bad. Christ
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Texture >Form and angles >Emotions >Minor details.
>>but Ushoran is totaly an Elden Ring boss
Care to show where I said it?
6 months ago
Anonymous
this is literally an elden ring boss
I'm not gonna dox your IP just to check if you're the same anonymous. Argument has been made and you joined into the discussion
6 months ago
Anonymous
>you're not allowed to hijack my inane conversation so flat and moronic in tone anyone can look like me
Sorry :~~* wanna call a janny? This isnt an organized session of age of shitmar tard this is a fricking thread about a tabletop game, something your trooned out mind is too rotted to handle hence why you need to compare everything to a fricking action "game" that basically plays itself
6 months ago
Anonymous
On a battle armour or any armour, because some of the XVIth century and later habsburgian armour, and some early XVth century Burgundia armour looked like an unholy fusion of lorica musculata with late medival armour designs from italy. Because when the boys are starting to model armour parts for the mustache and add glasses to the armour, you know that that year the harvest has happned during a rain seson.
The the Vienna collection for example has a curious suit of armor designed for a woman with a full metal skirt and a rather amble chest allowance, one of the more unique examples to be found anywhere. So asking for single examples is a dangerous thing anon, because there were some really wierd suits of armour. like the one created for the young boy, who would later become emperor Charles the Vth from the house of Habsburg.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Okay how it relates with sigmarines and their power armor?
Also, skirts weren't alien for full plate armor sets
NTA but while I can't point to any one boss, it certainly has that same "ruined regal glory" vibe that permeates much of From Soft games. He's very close to Godrick the Grafted imo, even if he lacks Godrick's iconic grafting.
But really the sentiment is less that he's a copy of any one specific boss and more that you could plonk him down in Dark Souls or Elden Ring completely unchanged and he'd fit right in.
Well for starters, have you played Dark Souls before? Because I'm not going to spoonfeed you the game's aesthetic cues just because you are apparently blind.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Well for starters, have you played Dark Souls before?
Played even Demon Souls and King's Field (but remember my first experience with Severance much better)
nah, bloodbowl is much better. Has that good WFB feel and little to no of the new stuff. If they added the old dwarven deathroller and classic goblin experimental weapons, it would be perfect.
How does it feel knowing you're that easy to identify? We're not talking about people seeing you IRL and immediately feeling disturbed, but an anonymous discussion relating to completely unrelated matters. A living stereotype. It really is that glaring.
ntg but when your use of a term boils down to "anyone who disagrees with me" (let's cut the bullshit: we both know that you don't actually think that poster is a transsexual) it's not actually very impressive to "accurately" use it
No, I don't condone carelessly trowing around "troony" as in insult. It's usually weak and inapt, and makes the accuser look worse that the target. But after some time on /tg/, it's become evident that there's a suite of behaviors seemingly unrelated to gender dysphoria which nevertheless align with the anon behind the screen being a man in a dress. Namely:
- Fondness for newer game systems and concepts
- hostility to older systems/concepts/aesthetics
- and most importantly: a fixation on grog boogeymen (see also: "fake grog")
...combine this with a histrionic, snarkily-aggresive, disturbed personality type. It's not even the typical anon who mockingly says "Old good, new bad," but a type of displaced hostility to conventional practices and mores. Intriguing phenomenon.
It's from being both an entryist and a progressive. You end up with an individual who joins a community they hate because of what they think they can turn it into. The effect on the community is basically a human tornado. >there goes the neighborhood
It's from being both an entryist and a progressive. You end up with an individual who joins a community they hate because of what they think they can turn it into. The effect on the community is basically a human tornado. >there goes the neighborhood
These types have a chip on their shoulder over everything that came before because of their own insecurities. They worship "progress" and want to dab on old shit so they can feel hip and superior. Most new shit in the modern era is bad because of a general death of creativity.
It is sad that some people can't build their identy on "I/We are X", but rather only on the "I/We are anti Y". What and why should AoS people care for WFB releases? At worse maybe some parts or some models for some faction can be used by them. They should be happy, same way an Alpha Legion player is happy about any imperial marine release.
The odd protectivness of a range that decides to put goat heads of pegasi or make female vampires semi dragons (just to better IP protect the product) is odd. There are AoS models that look great. The wood elf line for example. The tree man, the mini treeman, the bug Ariel. All great models. Lumineth Lords Cavalery on horses? Great models. My soul doesn't die from the fact that I can admit that, and my social standing doesn't drop either.
Meanwhile an AoS player is going to claim that "WFB" models are shit, while their "cities of sigmar" model line is attrocious and replaces a perfect Imperial model line. Volkmar on war altar was a giga chad. The new pope looks like a baboon, and to make matters worse it happens to be a female on top of everything.
NTA but you bet your ass it's a troon. They're all like this, and the most obsessed free-tier shills, irrevocably moronic, self-hating, corporate reddit slopsters. They're usually incredibly easy to spot. Their malding isn't just evident in real life (they will never pass), it is actually tangible through text.
there's some supports holding it to the dragon, but it looks like a really unstable ride. If the dragon was doing anything but walking slowly, the dude in the platform would spend the whole time being wildly swung around and desperately holding on. Game designers seem to have a poor idea of what riding atop an animal should be like.
It's solidly strapped to the spine and lower ribs,and the rider probably only stands up when the dragon is on the ground. For anything else the rider can sit on the saddle and just stay seated, since, I assume, this ain't their first rodeo.
Bone Dragon rodeo is obviously something that exists, and you can't convince me otherwise.
I still can't understand why any Warhammer Fantasy enjoyer would ever even want the people behind Age of Smegmar and nu41k anywhere near their setting. It beggars all belief that people would want them to go back and actively ruin something great.
New models, at least the bretonian ones look nice. I would love for them to be in plastic, but getting nice resin models, is better then not getting anything at all.
Only good new bret is the unicorn b***h. Everything else looks stuck in 2003, but with computer desigbed soullessness added, like the guy with a lantern just having it mirrored 4 times
I am not sure I am following you. I love the new updated bretonian look. The pre 4th ed ones were nice, but I own maybe 1 model from that range (a foot knight with a pole ax) and the lizardsman vs bretonia starter set was the starter that brought me to the hobby. I love those models, the snap fits, the metals. Only thing I maybe like less are the errant knights without helmets, but it is not like they are bad models, just I like my dudes to have their tournament gear on them.
i love how ToW existing is enough to mag AoS troonys seethe uncontrollably because they know their shitass game is on borrowed time. you idiots could just ignore ToW but no, you scream "grog!" and just post your gay bullshit over and over. i love it and cant wait to get my tomb king army.
Here's the thing. It's not TOW that makes AOS *trannies* or anyone *seethe*. I played VC and Wood Elves in WHFB, I bought every TW expansion up to Chaos Dwards and now play AOS. It's when we see secondaries that will at best give up after painting one unit getting FOMOed for factions that where never popular even by the standards of a dead game. We see these people trying to be part of the discussion in which they have no skin in the game and they are rightly called out for it.
Tomb King's and Bretonia where litteraly the least popular factions unless you count shit like Kislev and Dogs of War. Tomb Kings had vocal minority fanbase but if you where drawn to undead then VC where just infinitely cooler and also one of the most popular factions in the game. Empire was just a cooler human faction then Brettonia and their identify of being badass knights got crept one when other factions would get cooler looking cavalry. There's a reason why they where culled off fast after end times but FOMO and nostalgia are a hell of a drug.
it's impossible for me to less surprised that you think Tomb Kings and Bretonnians are simply less cool than other armies, and that it isn't worth mentioning that Bretonnians last saw an army book in 6th, Tomb Kings didn't see an army book in 7th, and when they finally got their update in 8th the army sucked and they were still stuck with 5e skeletons with hats on when the Vampire Counts got their skeletons updated a whole edition prior
> Surprised I think other armies where cooler > Lists reasons why they suck
7 months ago
Anonymous
funny how you were waffling on but didn't write "I" let alone "I think" once in your prior post nor did you mention any of that studio neglect and incompetence
>whaaaa its not popular when I played it but now that I was suckered into playing its soulless slop replacement no one else can possibly like it
seethe troony
This isnt the only thing, they already showed a tomb king on foot.
Besides they clearly have more old tomb king kits from when they squatted them they need to shift than any other army so they can’t make too much new stuff.
"The Old World" is a joke. If it happens in the next 3 years, I'll be impressed- because it seems like they've been talking about this damned thing "Coming Soon" for the last 6 years or so, and only recently have we gotten some actual images of models.
Wouldn't be shocked if they just repurposed them to AoS and said 'frick it'.
Because there will be like 3 grognards that actually buy TOW shit. They'll try the game, then start bringing the models to play AoS as proxies- and all they'll do is stand around complaining about how much better TOW is.
Shut up and read the room homosexual we're having an intense discussion on whether or not modern gamesworkshop takes influence design from a series of video games no one has ever played
Eh, if Old World gets a decent Kangz vs Brettonia starter set I'll probably get it just to paint it but I'm not gonna lie, after they revealed that Brettonia will get like 3 new kits and everything else is repackaged ancient fantasy shit my enthusiasm went way down.
>this is where my enthusiasm went way up
You're enthusiastic about shitty 20 year old kits being charged at modern day prices? Old world gays are the new extreme paypigs
I don't get why they didn't just put Tomb Kangs and Bretonnia into AOS especially if they had no intention of bringing back cool factions like skaven and VC.
Brets and TKs sold incredibly poorly and weren't really "generic" enough to be bootstrapped into AoS. Other shitty-selling lines like Ogres and Welves could so they got included
I dislike the direction of "Skeletons with Egyptian style decoration" they are taking. It is fair enough for the basic infantry and horses, but for anything bigger than that they should lean in hard on monumental statues of the King/the Gods/mythical beasts given life by the same animating magic used to command the rest of the army.
Also for the love of all that is holy, less of the whole "Super fancy giant centrepiece unit" lark. They are shite to transport and just don't work well with the otherwise more sensible infantry/cavalry units in the game.
Idk if it's "DOA" I think it will probably be almost as popular as Horus Heresy, the old heads I know are gearing up for it. I just think better options have come out in the intervening years for me personally.
Okay how it relates with sigmarines and their power armor?
Also, skirts weren't alien for full plate armor sets
I think the question was for odd helmets, musculata style breastplate and wierd helmets (thunder bolts etc). In VIennas Imperial Armour Museum you can find examples of those things mixed or even all one one suit of armour (mostly those ment for boys). And if we go further and look at the XVII-XVIIIth century full ceremonial suits of armour, then sky is the limits how wierd those can get. Same thing happened in Japan and helmets after the Sengoku Jidai has ended. Data Masamune started the trend durning the reign of Yoritomo , and when the civil war era ended, people started to wear some really crazy stuff.
Not everyone in the world wore the really ugly british style armour. Or had the XVIII-XIXth century hate for everything old the british custodians and historians had.
There are many groups of tatar living around the world anon. There are tatars living in Tatarstan, Tashkient, China, Russian, Ukraine, Poland, Turkey etc.
>I am tatar >you are russian!
Are you moronic? Is this American education? Can you not tell the difference between nation and state? The Tatars are (generally) subject to the "Russian" state, but that does not make them Russian. The Tatars do not have a national state of their own, just like many other peoples (including Russians).
The difference is pure academic, not practical. It does speak russian language (basically mongolic bastardization of slavic languages), it's live in Russia, ergo it's not a human being and his opinion is worthless by default
6 months ago
Anonymous
But I don't. I don't read cirilic, never mind speak or write. Plus tatars are peak humanity. Best look, smartest, best horse ridders, best poetry. It is like being turkish, but without all the degeneration.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>But I don't. I don't read cirilic, never mind speak or write.
->
>its just like Souls games bros!!!
Holy shit I cant believe they put mirror knight from the worst souls game that sold like shit in my best selling fantasy tabletop game holy shit so exciting cant wait to buy 5 for my whole family
At first I thought it was a cool nod to the Warmaster TK roster.
But the more I looked at it the more questions appeared.
Does it even fly? Does it have a breathe attack? And if it has none of those then does it have rules that make it stand out? Why the crock muzzle?
And then why give the TK another centerpiece unit if they already had two pretty good ones? Why not add stuff from the lore like Sky-Boats and Sky-Boxes? Why not give them the actual centerpiece unit that people wanted and which is the friggin Khemric Titan?
It's kinda funny how Sigmarines are pushed as the default good guy faction but I've never seen them actually fielded at our LGS, not even when there was a 25 person escalation league going on.
>They are predominantly just dudes
Eh not really. Less than half the roster was human before daemons were split into their own book. And even after WoC became a thing, they still had most of their special and rare units being various monsters.
I would be very surprised if this was all they were redoing for TK. Even if they redid some of the kits as FW resin, I would expect atleast the tomb scorpion and ushabti to get new plastic.
Rules are looking all right. Basically 7th edition with most of 8th ed's fixes tossed in, along with a sprinkling of Warmaster to taste.
If nothing else, I'll get the rulebook just so I can bring out my Dwarves again.
Any other Chaos Warriors chads laughing at the whole aos-tow spergstorm? >Your faction is obviously part of ToW, there never was any doubt about it >if the AoS playerbase fricking dies you can just rebase everything or even come up with stackable/swappable bases and just have your dudes with you no matter the game >old metal models still perfectly usable in AoS, not even the pickiest autist could object to your lord on chaos dragon being used as a lord on manticore, or archaon as a knight leader >Most of the new AoS stuff actually looks good and could easily be used in ToW >Every version of the chaos warrior still looks good, mix and match for soulful troop variety >Perfect "bad guys" miniatures for most TTRPGs, even more value for your money >So simple and perfect that the entirety of 40k is based around exploring infinite variations of your basic troop >endless supply of bits to create fun, unique heroes and deformed mounts out of anything >at the end of the day, you are just playing faceless armored guys that just want to slaughter everything
It really does feel good to play the eternal favored creatures of GW, if it wasn't for the new Archaon they would have a perfect track record.
>>Most of the new AoS stuff actually looks good and could easily be used in ToW
All of the Khornate Bloodskullers would look moronic in a proper Chaos army. And since WHF chaos is so closely tied to Norsca the rest of the chaos lines will look equally out of place
The design of the Bretonnian foot knights is a bit too much in terms of silliness but I'm still glad someone is making a knight faction that looks like what people a hundred years ago thoughts knights looked like.
Just isn’t for a lot of people really, myself included. The problem with Fantasy and AOS is that one is predominantly high fantasy and the other is relatively low fantasy in setting and aesthetic. It’s like comparing 40k and lotr, just isn’t really a one size fits all and you’re always going to get people who want one or the other because that’s “their thing”.
Right, but I'm talking about game play. WS and to wound charts, toned down magic, paying to wheel on charges, etc. Stuff like that was striped out of the game to attract these AoS players in the first place, and it will surely repel them. I'm grateful for that because seriously, frick those guys.
TOW was dead the moment GW decided to appeal to the fantasy fanbase: obese grogs who haven’t bought a model in 20 years and moronic poor total war secondaries.
t. bought 50th cuckmaris release this year: $3000
third vax this month: 1 donut
doing it for free: priceless
ESLs should be ban from Ganker.
I wonder if this ESL is even aware that he's parodying a commercial for an American product
No one has ever done it for free with you Cletus
Lmao on the money. Trannies seething over fantasy and ToW will never not be amusing. AoS has such garbage aesthetics.
Right back to trannies since your Hispanic ass got caught comparing warhammer fantasy to fricking dark souls you stupid ESL b***h. Dont you have russian tartar sauce to complain about
Anon, there is more then 2 people here. Don't attack the "Dark Soul" anon for things I did, and vice versa.
>dead on arrival
Shitmar gays furiously coping their axe-wound abortion of a game will be dead soon.
Yeah dude! TWW secondaries and 5th edition grognards who haven't bought a model since '98 are the perfect audience for your new game!
DOA
>TWW secondaries and 5th edition grognards who haven't bought a model since '98
Fricking hilarious cope
I still have my balls unlike most AoS players
>I still have my balls unlike most AoS players
really? could have fooled me with that OP vs the ABSOLUTE CHADS of the Courts that got revealed.
>We only play for one factions models
the balls you have to post this with that abomination in the op
When the Flesh Eater courts mog the Bretonnia and TK reveals combined into oblivion AHHHHH I'M COOOOPING
>When the Flesh Eater courts mog the Bretonnia and TK reveals combined
> Shows two boring models side by side neither of which are FEC
And they are borring because..?
Also, what is FEC?
>constant discussion of FFFFFFlesh EEEEEEEEEater CCCCCCCCCCourts going on in thread
>you, an idiot, a buffoon, a veritable test tube homunculus: "what could FEC possibly stand for??? I just don't get it....."
TOWcucks really aren't sending their best.
Well sorry, I am not playing AoS and I am surely not wasting time reading every post in 2 days old thread.
So what is FEC?
Instead your seething at posts you don't even read, apparently.
>So what is FEC?
I won't deprive you of this knowledge journey, my precious lil brainlet.
>your seething at posts
Where?
>we all just play AoS for FEC models
cope shifting more than the sands of Nehekhara
>repeating yourself with the same moronic strawman twice
Now now anon, we're talking about AoS here, not HH.
>only talks about FEC
>muh strawman
I accept your concession
>jumps into a discussion about FEC and gets mad that people are discussing FEC
>meanwhile remains hyperfixated on one (1) model in an otherwise alright range for coming up on 3 months now
Genuinely unhinged behavior
>OP about TK release for TOW
>uhmm ackshually its an FEC thread
what goes on between you and your fec models in the privacy of your own home is your own business but dont shart up /tg/ with your necro fetish
>Flesh Eater Courts
Oh you mean Strigoi Bloodline vampire Counts!
I agree Prince Ushoran and his flesh eaters are a cool faction and I think their new models are neat.
Flesh Eater Courts are the best idea AoS had and it's not even close. Plus they got lucky with getting new models now, when GW are finally beginning to learn not to overdesign everything in CAD. Something it's taken them 20 years almost to do.
>Strigoi Bloodline Vampire Counts!
No, they're dead and gone
This is honestly the funniest picture i've ever seen on the internet
The hair, the nose, the vaguely threatening gesture in the chair, the white men carrying her as her inferiors, versus the Bretonnian woman on her horse in her flowing gown, the difference in size between the AoS womans massive skull and the Brets, her caveman-tier bone structure making her look like a baboon versus the Brets elegant face, the remnants of what appear to be sideburns on the side of her face versus the Bretonnian's clear cheeks, the intense expression on the PoC face versus the feminie expression on the bret, the sheer difference in size between their torsos - hers is probably double the size of the Brets due to scale creep, her masculine profile with his chin jutting out and her ugly face. i could go on, but you get the idea
all of this contrasted with the constant assertion that these people are identical to Empire character and there is no meaningful difference between them makes for the most exquisite form of irony when their differences are juxtaposed so vividly
the contrast is almost divine - on the left is man's hubris, his desire to capture the beauty of nature and make it his own, his cerebral and conscious understanding of what it means to be what he thinks he is, his intentional "becoming", while on the right is nature, effortless being, no doctors appointments or hormones or surgery, just an "is" that needs nothing added to it in order to be complete
he tries so hard and yet, the harder he tries to "become", the further he takes himself away from the effortless "is" that is the thing he wants to be
it's comedy on a cosmic scale, a joke only god himself could come up with
if only you could put even a fraction of this effort into your daily life
>pseudy outpourings saying nothing
Not sure if autismo or French
You cannot convince me someone in GW didn’t do this intentionally. Same with the other awful models, I think they want TOW to fail, none of it fits the aesthetic at all.
Oh yeah I'll go play TOW with my Skav- oh.
Never mind that; I can just use my chaos dwa- oh.
Well oh well, at least I can pick up Vampire Counts; I've always wanted to try th- oh.
Post 1 model from each of the lines you mentioned or keep your shithole closed.
How can I post a model from a line that I admitted to not playing
His point is that he's interested in finally owning these lines after discovering WHF through TWW, only to learn he won't be catered to
There's already model lines for skaven and undead though, and chaos dwarves are a dlc faction for game already made of of dlc factions
>There's already model lines for skaven and undead though
That's not the issue. The issue is that they're getting "here your bare minimum; now frick off" Legends-in-all-but-name rules.
>"here your bare minimum; now frick off"
Precisely what ratgays deserve until they are finally squatted.
Gotta love how Ganker morons are so brain-rotten that they are mentally incapable of not missing the forest for the trees.
In case your desiccated and dust-choked brain forgot, skaven are not the only army getting this treatment.
They're getting rules but not new models or model refreshes because their ranges are still available for use in AoS (except for chorfs because they'll be hitting Age of Sigmar in 2 years tops)
Except AoS buldozez those armies all the time without any care for compatiblity, basedou can't actually play Vampire Coutns because all the characters are squated and some basic kits have replacments that don't fit aesthetically
>They're getting rules
They'll be getting never-updated pdfs with the most barebones rules imaginable that will be incompatible with the game within a year
Really needs to be a big 'Neutral' Header in the middle with the Empire, Wood Elves and Tomb Kings beneath it.
They backtracked from goid and evil separation after backlash
They backtracked in 1 piece of promo material, not game design and understanding of the factions
fpbp
Wrong. The post is moronic. I'm one of those old grogs and I'm gonna paypig like you wouldn't believe. I'm gonna buy the shit out of this game, I'm gonna throw money at GW with the speed of light. And I can, because old grogs have one in common - they can afford it.
>old grogs can afford it
Does matured bottled piss sell for prime dollar these days? Where did they hide it all in WFB 6th-8th?
bring back Vampire Counts
>been slowly building a vampire counts force in preparation of the old world
>they’re not even a faction.
Cool!!!!
They are a faction, they just wont get new models
Couldn't post this in the TK whining thread that was already up?
>Captcha: PPKYS
>yet another model that blends invisibly into the background
These people are moronic, they do it every fricking time. This one isn't even dead white so they changed the BG especially just to make it invisible
>another thread about Games Workshop product added to the catalogue
Good work, anon. It would be a shame if anything else was ever visible here.
You know you can filter threads?
You misunderstand me. I am interested in GW product. But not only in GW product.
How many threads have the warhammer-haters made just about this single bone dragon model?
While other manufacturers get zero attention at all.
You're arguing with a GW marketer
moronic ESL makes himself even less understandable by mashing up several unrelated memes
>So TOW is dead on arrival, huh?
That sand effect is so unbeleivably disgusting. The grains are irl scale on a miniature, so it results in ping-pong balls of sand.
If this is real there is NO chance he will stay employed.
It's real but he's left GW already. Though with posts like that they probably are gonna have NDA's that will continue x amount of years after employement has ended.
paid by games workshop to make it so they never have to credit sculptors and sculptors never get to credit themselves.
I don't get how you can be sculpting the centre piece for a main faction and just a year or two later be OUT of the company.
the bits he did were still shit too
good riddance
Whats the lore inconsistency with this? Dragons didn't live in the area of the tomb kings or what?
there's no lore inconsistency, in warmaster the undead army that also represented tomb kings had a dragon, there were undead dragons in one of the old tk artworks and there have been mentions of tk fighting dragons at times
There's no lore issue. Nehekhara is situated close to the Plain of Bones which was home to dying dragons as well as a source of corpses to animate. Its referenced as the Plains of Plenty in the 6E book and is old Nehekharan territory.
There's artwork depicting Nehekharan dragons as well.
The issues are that:
A. The design is shit and looks nothing like a classic dragon or those depicted in earlier Nehekharan imagery.
B. It's likely to be an extremely expensive mount for Lords, which means it's maybe one per army and competes directly with the existing Warsphinx option.
C. It could have been anything else that the TK range is desperately lacking.
Plain of Bones? Plains of Plenty? Haters Choice? These maps suck and the names are unimaginative
they are based on historical names of places translated in to english.
Sorry just havin a laugh. The last one is an AoS name and complaint, I know they're for placing (Your Dudes) in.
Oh I am all for laughs. There are places called old asses, circumcision of virigins etc No shortage of funny and "funny" names in real life. Just wanted to explain. I was never in favour of the "Others can't make fun of the things I like" especialy if they go hand in hand with "I have full rights to make fun of their stuff".
true although it's called a 'necrolith' dragon, so either it's fossilized and reanimated like other stone constructs or it has been carved out of stone. Or GW just forget what necrolith refers to.
damn. respect for him saying that. I actually feel like theres people inside of GWs design team I can agree with.
how come AoS wins all the reveals?
>he's the leader, that means he needs to be huge!
in the case of these ghouls, yeah
He's not just a big ghoul, though. He's like 20-times the size of a ghoul. Orcs are a special case, as well, as not only is their social hierarchy based upon size, but an Orc will also become larger simply from being in charge.
Horrors are already giant ghouls, he's a +1 from them
Do ghouls have a bigness-savageness inverse relationship? Meaning, are the Horrors also more bestial/dumber than regular ghouls? I could accept (and prefer) Ushoran the size of one of those, except much smarter.
>videogameification of tabletop
Not sure about this.
Sort of. It depends on what they eat. Horrors drink some of the Ghoul King's blood and so become bigger, stronger and with regeneration to be their bodyguards. Flayers eat Terrorgheist flesh and so get bigger, get wings and the ability to supersonic scream to become skirmishers. Offal hounds eat shitty animals and so turn into pets.
To be fair, those are the mordants (living) rather than the abhorrents (undead). But archregents do change somewhat and the new gorewardens somehow grow wings. It's not unlikely that as the most ancient abhorrent, Ushoran has ate the best and so grown into a big boi.
Thanks, anon. I ask because the basic ghouls are look like they're using real weapons, while the more monstrous ones are using either clubs or just their claws/teeth; as if there's an association between ghoul size and intelligence. Not meaning that a big ghoul has to be dumb, but there's usually a trade-off.
There are tons of good examples of this being stupid and true in AoS, but in this case it actually makes sense. He's the leader of a group of feral monsters, of course they're going to look up to the biggest, nastiest guy. The same is true of orcs and other savage factions.
He's a dark souls boss, it's fine.
Yes. Funny how even grogs need to accept this model is amazing and have to grasp at BIG MODELS BAD
It's a good design, but should be significantly scaled down. Scenic bases are moronic; the model's footprint is twice as large as it needs to be even at Ushoran's current size (reminder: it needs to be moved around on a gaming table). They didn't go overboard with MUH DETAILS, which is nice, but it could be toned down/made slightly less EXTREME.
He's Ushoran, he was the ORIGINAL Strigoi Vampire, he's lived for a gorillion years in AoS feeding and gaining power, of course he's going to be huge
It's the only GW product, outside of some side game stuff, that has any passion behind it.
40k is a semi-automated 9-5 grind and tOw is an actual corporate mandated slop nobody wants to do but has to
I don't see "passion" in AoS, but their visual design staff are apparently given wide reign instead of having strict guidelines. For better and worse.
I'm not interested in Horus Heresy at all, but that's the best GW range in terms of model design (remember kids: sometimes less is more), and probably has the most care put into it by the staff. (note: don't like the Primarch models. Frick off with the scenic bases).
>reign
~rein
FRICK
>I'm not interested in Horus Heresy at all, but that's the best GW range in terms of model design
Lmao, get a load of this marinepiggy shill tryna be subtle
Spess Marine wankery is the worst thing about 40k; I'd never collect them myself. I like the Horus Heresy model range because they aren't moronicly over-designed and the sculptors seem to understand the setting.
Get that marine out of your ass
>if you don't like [thing], that means you need to mindlessly dislike anything related to [thing]
> HH designers UNDERSTAND the SETTING
Topkek the H community has shit on damn near every release for the past year.
You don't own any models you secondary homosexual
>Secondary! Secondary!
Is this supposed to be a put-down? You sound like a little homosexual.
And yes, I don't own any HH models, as previously stated. As I understand, the HH community has mainly objected to releasing too many giant vehicles instead of basic infantry, as well as not even attempting to equally represent the different Legions, but, I am looking at it all from a distance.
>I think HH looks the best!
>no, I don't actually own any models
>no, I haven't actually looked at the models enough to realize how poorly modeled they all are
>but they're the best! honest!
Loretuber binging tertiary detected
>but that's the best GW range in terms of model design
marine fricker alert
Like when they made the SW bolters upside down?
Same sculptor that made a lot of the mechanicum. No idea how you make pic related and frick up a bolter.
As stated above, I'm not intimately familiar with HH. From what I've seen, the designers seem to "get" the setting better than with 40k.
> but that's the best GW range in terms of model design (remember kids: sometimes less is more)
I don't hate HW era marines, but come the frick on.
Just play historical or something.
I like the tree thing riding the bug?
>I don't see
of course you do not
My thoughts as well. Horus Heresy narrative is moronic but the models are cool. Modern models are too over designed. There were some silly old models (like Necrons wraiths) but none of them came off as over designed to me until 5th with the vehicles and it’s only gotten worse since then since they want to sell centerpiece characters.
You meant to say necromunda, AOS is just as uninspired as the rest. Unfortunately, GW's stuff aren't passion projects like the past, it's just work for them.
This has to be bait. Smegmar is the epitome of "corporate-mandated slop". From tol to bottom, it is utterly soulless, asagend was in fact designed from the beginning to be soulless, so that anything and everything could be injected by committee design decree. From the marketing department's PoV, it's not a bug, it's a feature.
> Is the only GW game with creative freedom and artistic licence
> Use pseudo intellectual buzzwords and catchphrases like *corporate* to rail against said game
>GW game with creative freedom
>2023
Nah.
It's the current year!
Who are you quoting, troony?
I don't want inconsistency and fairweather design. I want vision and cohesion. All artists and writers should be pulling in the same direction. Otherwise, they're pulling against each other with whatever seems cool (or more importantly: marketable, nice freedom there) at the moment.
If your freedom gives me concepts as trite and dated-at-conception as steampunk dwarves in tophats, I'm ok with that shit idea getting filtered out.
I mean Death, Chaos and Destruction grand alliances follow pretty cohesive design philosophies. I'll take it over a setting that can't do anything new or creative. People are still shitting themselves over Tau and it's been 20 years.
And why must these criticisms always fall back on such tiresome hyperbole, there is literally a dwarf in a top hat and theyre only steampunk in the sense they vaguely imitate steampunk aesthetic with bronze pressure suits. Airships are fricking cool.
Some of it looks cool I just don't get it.
Have you tried putting on cynicism glasses?
No need, I mostly play historicals. People should play what they want, I just can't wrap my head around AOS as a setting and am not a big GW guy.
Before or after last king of Scotland model?
this is literally an elden ring boss
Stormcast are just recoloured Dark Souls 2 boss, so Fromsoftware is in game's DNA
Don`t insult Glass Knight like this please
Broad strokes are basically identical, down to lightning powers. You have to start going into detail like horizontal vs vertical helmet spikes
>Stormcast are just recoloured Dark Souls 2 boss
Not even close
>heavy armor guy with tower shield and sword gear, who's helmet is a face mask, he can raise his weapin to have it struck by lightning
Who am i talking about?
>Who am i talking about?
About sigmarine, since you've missed plenty of DS2 details
Are you just that unwilling to admit you're wrong or is it computer day at the hospital for mentally chellanged?
I will easily admit that I am wrong once you show me the same european cuirass on sigmarines, calm face instead of copy of Dante's helmet, rich thorns decoration instead of random lighting bolts motifs
>minor details are off, so sce and lgk aren't related
>but Ushoran is totaly an Elden Ring boss
God damn grogs b***h about troon secondaries all day, just for Gankerermin ESL to be just as bad. Christ
>Texture
>Form and angles
>Emotions
>Minor details.
>>but Ushoran is totaly an Elden Ring boss
Care to show where I said it?
I'm not gonna dox your IP just to check if you're the same anonymous. Argument has been made and you joined into the discussion
>you're not allowed to hijack my inane conversation so flat and moronic in tone anyone can look like me
Sorry :~~* wanna call a janny? This isnt an organized session of age of shitmar tard this is a fricking thread about a tabletop game, something your trooned out mind is too rotted to handle hence why you need to compare everything to a fricking action "game" that basically plays itself
On a battle armour or any armour, because some of the XVIth century and later habsburgian armour, and some early XVth century Burgundia armour looked like an unholy fusion of lorica musculata with late medival armour designs from italy. Because when the boys are starting to model armour parts for the mustache and add glasses to the armour, you know that that year the harvest has happned during a rain seson.
The the Vienna collection for example has a curious suit of armor designed for a woman with a full metal skirt and a rather amble chest allowance, one of the more unique examples to be found anywhere. So asking for single examples is a dangerous thing anon, because there were some really wierd suits of armour. like the one created for the young boy, who would later become emperor Charles the Vth from the house of Habsburg.
Okay how it relates with sigmarines and their power armor?
Also, skirts weren't alien for full plate armor sets
Who?
NTA but while I can't point to any one boss, it certainly has that same "ruined regal glory" vibe that permeates much of From Soft games. He's very close to Godrick the Grafted imo, even if he lacks Godrick's iconic grafting.
But really the sentiment is less that he's a copy of any one specific boss and more that you could plonk him down in Dark Souls or Elden Ring completely unchanged and he'd fit right in.
>, it certainly has
Where?
Well for starters, have you played Dark Souls before? Because I'm not going to spoonfeed you the game's aesthetic cues just because you are apparently blind.
>Well for starters, have you played Dark Souls before?
Played even Demon Souls and King's Field (but remember my first experience with Severance much better)
Because AoS is the most SOVLFVL game in the current GW lineup, unironically
nah, bloodbowl is much better. Has that good WFB feel and little to no of the new stuff. If they added the old dwarven deathroller and classic goblin experimental weapons, it would be perfect.
Not really. GW have always been hacks that store their aesthetics from elsewhere.
Fantasy just had a bit better taste historically (until latter editions) as to where it did its thievery.
But honestly, fantasy would have probably turned into AoS or something close to it given enough time.
>But honestly, fantasy would have probably turned into AoS or something close to it given enough time.
It was well on its way
>This was literally all TKs got.
you expected everything in one stream when the bret stuff was spread through 3 streams and other monday reveals?
at least WGA is making skeleton cav finally
Why would they give TK a new giant monster instead of some skeletons that don't look like dogshit
>wah wah my fantashit doesn’t look like a half melted plastic army man
Grog spotted
How does it feel knowing you're that easy to identify? We're not talking about people seeing you IRL and immediately feeling disturbed, but an anonymous discussion relating to completely unrelated matters. A living stereotype. It really is that glaring.
ntg but when your use of a term boils down to "anyone who disagrees with me" (let's cut the bullshit: we both know that you don't actually think that poster is a transsexual) it's not actually very impressive to "accurately" use it
No, I don't condone carelessly trowing around "troony" as in insult. It's usually weak and inapt, and makes the accuser look worse that the target. But after some time on /tg/, it's become evident that there's a suite of behaviors seemingly unrelated to gender dysphoria which nevertheless align with the anon behind the screen being a man in a dress. Namely:
- Fondness for newer game systems and concepts
- hostility to older systems/concepts/aesthetics
- and most importantly: a fixation on grog boogeymen (see also: "fake grog")
...combine this with a histrionic, snarkily-aggresive, disturbed personality type. It's not even the typical anon who mockingly says "Old good, new bad," but a type of displaced hostility to conventional practices and mores. Intriguing phenomenon.
It's from being both an entryist and a progressive. You end up with an individual who joins a community they hate because of what they think they can turn it into. The effect on the community is basically a human tornado.
>there goes the neighborhood
These types have a chip on their shoulder over everything that came before because of their own insecurities. They worship "progress" and want to dab on old shit so they can feel hip and superior. Most new shit in the modern era is bad because of a general death of creativity.
It is sad that some people can't build their identy on "I/We are X", but rather only on the "I/We are anti Y". What and why should AoS people care for WFB releases? At worse maybe some parts or some models for some faction can be used by them. They should be happy, same way an Alpha Legion player is happy about any imperial marine release.
The odd protectivness of a range that decides to put goat heads of pegasi or make female vampires semi dragons (just to better IP protect the product) is odd. There are AoS models that look great. The wood elf line for example. The tree man, the mini treeman, the bug Ariel. All great models. Lumineth Lords Cavalery on horses? Great models. My soul doesn't die from the fact that I can admit that, and my social standing doesn't drop either.
Meanwhile an AoS player is going to claim that "WFB" models are shit, while their "cities of sigmar" model line is attrocious and replaces a perfect Imperial model line. Volkmar on war altar was a giga chad. The new pope looks like a baboon, and to make matters worse it happens to be a female on top of everything.
NTA but you bet your ass it's a troon. They're all like this, and the most obsessed free-tier shills, irrevocably moronic, self-hating, corporate reddit slopsters. They're usually incredibly easy to spot. Their malding isn't just evident in real life (they will never pass), it is actually tangible through text.
amazed that GW have done exactly the same thing they did with 8th, new centrepiece models with the same 5th ed was it VC skellies with hats stuck on
the ugly fricking things were mogged as soon as the VC ones were updated what, almost 2 decades ago?
Alright, someone explain to me how the frick does that howdah stay upright? What the hell is supporting it?
It's simple the bone dragon maintains the exact position pictured at all times.
there's some supports holding it to the dragon, but it looks like a really unstable ride. If the dragon was doing anything but walking slowly, the dude in the platform would spend the whole time being wildly swung around and desperately holding on. Game designers seem to have a poor idea of what riding atop an animal should be like.
It's solidly strapped to the spine and lower ribs,and the rider probably only stands up when the dragon is on the ground. For anything else the rider can sit on the saddle and just stay seated, since, I assume, this ain't their first rodeo.
Bone Dragon rodeo is obviously something that exists, and you can't convince me otherwise.
>So TOW is dead on arrival, huh?
Always was.
I still can't understand why any Warhammer Fantasy enjoyer would ever even want the people behind Age of Smegmar and nu41k anywhere near their setting. It beggars all belief that people would want them to go back and actively ruin something great.
New models, at least the bretonian ones look nice. I would love for them to be in plastic, but getting nice resin models, is better then not getting anything at all.
Only good new bret is the unicorn b***h. Everything else looks stuck in 2003, but with computer desigbed soullessness added, like the guy with a lantern just having it mirrored 4 times
I am not sure I am following you. I love the new updated bretonian look. The pre 4th ed ones were nice, but I own maybe 1 model from that range (a foot knight with a pole ax) and the lizardsman vs bretonia starter set was the starter that brought me to the hobby. I love those models, the snap fits, the metals. Only thing I maybe like less are the errant knights without helmets, but it is not like they are bad models, just I like my dudes to have their tournament gear on them.
i love how ToW existing is enough to mag AoS troonys seethe uncontrollably because they know their shitass game is on borrowed time. you idiots could just ignore ToW but no, you scream "grog!" and just post your gay bullshit over and over. i love it and cant wait to get my tomb king army.
Here's the thing. It's not TOW that makes AOS *trannies* or anyone *seethe*. I played VC and Wood Elves in WHFB, I bought every TW expansion up to Chaos Dwards and now play AOS. It's when we see secondaries that will at best give up after painting one unit getting FOMOed for factions that where never popular even by the standards of a dead game. We see these people trying to be part of the discussion in which they have no skin in the game and they are rightly called out for it.
what factions weren't popular and why?
Tomb King's and Bretonia where litteraly the least popular factions unless you count shit like Kislev and Dogs of War. Tomb Kings had vocal minority fanbase but if you where drawn to undead then VC where just infinitely cooler and also one of the most popular factions in the game. Empire was just a cooler human faction then Brettonia and their identify of being badass knights got crept one when other factions would get cooler looking cavalry. There's a reason why they where culled off fast after end times but FOMO and nostalgia are a hell of a drug.
it's impossible for me to less surprised that you think Tomb Kings and Bretonnians are simply less cool than other armies, and that it isn't worth mentioning that Bretonnians last saw an army book in 6th, Tomb Kings didn't see an army book in 7th, and when they finally got their update in 8th the army sucked and they were still stuck with 5e skeletons with hats on when the Vampire Counts got their skeletons updated a whole edition prior
> Surprised I think other armies where cooler
> Lists reasons why they suck
funny how you were waffling on but didn't write "I" let alone "I think" once in your prior post nor did you mention any of that studio neglect and incompetence
>whaaaa its not popular when I played it but now that I was suckered into playing its soulless slop replacement no one else can possibly like it
seethe troony
>I played VC and Wood Elves in WHFB,
>and now play AOS.
But enough of your poor taste anon
Wood elves and vc were great lines
>Wood elves
Only wardancers and spellweaver.
And you kind of missed the point
This isnt the only thing, they already showed a tomb king on foot.
Besides they clearly have more old tomb king kits from when they squatted them they need to shift than any other army so they can’t make too much new stuff.
"The Old World" is a joke. If it happens in the next 3 years, I'll be impressed- because it seems like they've been talking about this damned thing "Coming Soon" for the last 6 years or so, and only recently have we gotten some actual images of models.
Wouldn't be shocked if they just repurposed them to AoS and said 'frick it'.
Why are AoS players quaking in their boots at the thought of TOW?
Because there will be like 3 grognards that actually buy TOW shit. They'll try the game, then start bringing the models to play AoS as proxies- and all they'll do is stand around complaining about how much better TOW is.
Are they? I don't think they even register it unless a gay like you goes and tries to bait with it.
Shut up and read the room homosexual we're having an intense discussion on whether or not modern gamesworkshop takes influence design from a series of video games no one has ever played
Go fellate yourself, oh wait you it's too small to reach
>ran out of arguments
>pwease frick off 🙂 45s back to back posts
state of GW fanboys baka
I wasn't arguing, i was calling you a stupid c**t
I accept your concession
I'm glad you accept you're a stupid c**t
>GW fanboys
*AoS fanboys
Eh, if Old World gets a decent Kangz vs Brettonia starter set I'll probably get it just to paint it but I'm not gonna lie, after they revealed that Brettonia will get like 3 new kits and everything else is repackaged ancient fantasy shit my enthusiasm went way down.
>will get like 3 new kits and everything else is repackaged ancient fantasy shit
this is where my enthusiasm went way up
Right? People are saying this like it's a bad thing lmao.
>this is where my enthusiasm went way up
You're enthusiastic about shitty 20 year old kits being charged at modern day prices? Old world gays are the new extreme paypigs
Old kits are better. I also don't expect any company to charge 20 year old prices. I don't really see the issue Sigtroony
>Old kits are better.
>I also don't expect GW not to charge 20 year old prices.
This is what we call the textbook definition of cope
Many of the old kits are better than modern stuff. I mean, the old metal Eternal Guard are far superior to the new ones. Same goes for Wild Riders.
>Many of the old kits are better than modern stuff
See
I don't get why they didn't just put Tomb Kangs and Bretonnia into AOS especially if they had no intention of bringing back cool factions like skaven and VC.
Sells. VC and Skaven sold, TK didn't. Having free space on the shelf was seen as better investment than having TK be there
Brets and TKs sold incredibly poorly and weren't really "generic" enough to be bootstrapped into AoS. Other shitty-selling lines like Ogres and Welves could so they got included
>This was literally all TKs got.
Still better than the Marinepiss 40K got last weekend
I dislike the direction of "Skeletons with Egyptian style decoration" they are taking. It is fair enough for the basic infantry and horses, but for anything bigger than that they should lean in hard on monumental statues of the King/the Gods/mythical beasts given life by the same animating magic used to command the rest of the army.
Also for the love of all that is holy, less of the whole "Super fancy giant centrepiece unit" lark. They are shite to transport and just don't work well with the otherwise more sensible infantry/cavalry units in the game.
Idk if it's "DOA" I think it will probably be almost as popular as Horus Heresy, the old heads I know are gearing up for it. I just think better options have come out in the intervening years for me personally.
Some of the wierder armours that could be used for AoS.
But AoS armor looks nothing like that
Look how some vampire ladies look like then.
I think the question was for odd helmets, musculata style breastplate and wierd helmets (thunder bolts etc). In VIennas Imperial Armour Museum you can find examples of those things mixed or even all one one suit of armour (mostly those ment for boys). And if we go further and look at the XVII-XVIIIth century full ceremonial suits of armour, then sky is the limits how wierd those can get. Same thing happened in Japan and helmets after the Sengoku Jidai has ended. Data Masamune started the trend durning the reign of Yoritomo , and when the civil war era ended, people started to wear some really crazy stuff.
Not everyone in the world wore the really ugly british style armour. Or had the XVIII-XIXth century hate for everything old the british custodians and historians had.
>Look how some vampire ladies look like then
1) we were talking about sigmarines
2) they doesn't look lik pics you've posted
>In VIennas Imperial Armour Museum you can find examples of those things mixed or even all one one suit of armour
So nothing like sigmarines
>sokrovishnitsa
Go to bed slav
I am tatar anon, at least technicaly.
Here are some examples from the armour of the duke of Tyrol. His armour and that of his sons.
Doesnt look like a sigmar space marine very much no.
>I am tatar anon, at least technicaly.
So you are russian, Shouldn't yoiu guys die in trenches?
There are many groups of tatar living around the world anon. There are tatars living in Tatarstan, Tashkient, China, Russian, Ukraine, Poland, Turkey etc.
Okay whatever subhuman, now go and die for your sugar daddy dictator.
There are no dictators in my country we are free.
Also Tang era cav armour.
>There are no dictators in my country we are free.
You don't have country, central asiatic mongoloid
>Also Tang era cav armour.
Still nothing like SCE
have you seen how the wing boys for SCE look like ?
>I am tatar
>you are russian!
Are you moronic? Is this American education? Can you not tell the difference between nation and state? The Tatars are (generally) subject to the "Russian" state, but that does not make them Russian. The Tatars do not have a national state of their own, just like many other peoples (including Russians).
The difference is pure academic, not practical. It does speak russian language (basically mongolic bastardization of slavic languages), it's live in Russia, ergo it's not a human being and his opinion is worthless by default
But I don't. I don't read cirilic, never mind speak or write. Plus tatars are peak humanity. Best look, smartest, best horse ridders, best poetry. It is like being turkish, but without all the degeneration.
>But I don't. I don't read cirilic, never mind speak or write.
->
That's looks like translit from cyrilic
>its just like Souls games bros!!!
Holy shit I cant believe they put mirror knight from the worst souls game that sold like shit in my best selling fantasy tabletop game holy shit so exciting cant wait to buy 5 for my whole family
I can just feel that model breaking random pieces off from a slight glance.
>What if we just put a leader on top of a giant monster
Brilliant, GW. Brilliant.
Are any of these peripheral models enhanced in any way?
Nope. It's the same kit as in 1967
exactly as it should be.
>old skeletons in the bottom left
oh my god it's fricking over
Seethe, Age of Ligma will never be a game
whats ligma?
A condition which forces you to search out nutsack to fellate.
Ligma Nutz!!
At first I thought it was a cool nod to the Warmaster TK roster.
But the more I looked at it the more questions appeared.
Does it even fly? Does it have a breathe attack? And if it has none of those then does it have rules that make it stand out? Why the crock muzzle?
And then why give the TK another centerpiece unit if they already had two pretty good ones? Why not add stuff from the lore like Sky-Boats and Sky-Boxes? Why not give them the actual centerpiece unit that people wanted and which is the friggin Khemric Titan?
>secondaries still coping about AoS after the FEC reveals
LMAO
This is what passes for OC these days on this god forsaken website.
I've been lazily editing other peoples stuff with comic sans in mspaint for well over a decade.
It's kinda funny how Sigmarines are pushed as the default good guy faction but I've never seen them actually fielded at our LGS, not even when there was a 25 person escalation league going on.
>25 person escalation league going on
not memeing, at all
imagine the smell
>kings of war
>9th age
>based
How so? Not memeing just asking.
Apparently human factions have historically always underperformed even going back to WHFB. Turns out people prefer fantasy races in a fantasy game
That depends on if you count Chaos as a human faction or not I'd say. They are predominantly just dudes. Mutated dudes sometimes, but generally dudes.
>They are predominantly just dudes
Eh not really. Less than half the roster was human before daemons were split into their own book. And even after WoC became a thing, they still had most of their special and rare units being various monsters.
Since when warcraft fans counts as human beings?
I would be very surprised if this was all they were redoing for TK. Even if they redid some of the kits as FW resin, I would expect atleast the tomb scorpion and ushabti to get new plastic.
Frick it, here goes.
I like it.
Like it enough to pay Forge World price for it?
Surely it's gonna be in the starter box.
I don't play Fantasy. I just use the models to play Dragons Rampant.
So, no.
Tell me about Dragon Rampant. I like that you have to check to see if a unit successfully activates or not.
Just pick a skirmish game and go with it.
Warlords of Erehwon,
Dragon Rampant,
One Page Rules,
etc.
28mm fantasy models really shine at that scale.
Why does GW only release good models for Age of Sigmar
I don't care for this or AoS models.
(heh... nuthin' personal)
>TK a joke
Ninth edition is back!
Rules are looking all right. Basically 7th edition with most of 8th ed's fixes tossed in, along with a sprinkling of Warmaster to taste.
If nothing else, I'll get the rulebook just so I can bring out my Dwarves again.
Any other Chaos Warriors chads laughing at the whole aos-tow spergstorm?
>Your faction is obviously part of ToW, there never was any doubt about it
>if the AoS playerbase fricking dies you can just rebase everything or even come up with stackable/swappable bases and just have your dudes with you no matter the game
>old metal models still perfectly usable in AoS, not even the pickiest autist could object to your lord on chaos dragon being used as a lord on manticore, or archaon as a knight leader
>Most of the new AoS stuff actually looks good and could easily be used in ToW
>Every version of the chaos warrior still looks good, mix and match for soulful troop variety
>Perfect "bad guys" miniatures for most TTRPGs, even more value for your money
>So simple and perfect that the entirety of 40k is based around exploring infinite variations of your basic troop
>endless supply of bits to create fun, unique heroes and deformed mounts out of anything
>at the end of the day, you are just playing faceless armored guys that just want to slaughter everything
It really does feel good to play the eternal favored creatures of GW, if it wasn't for the new Archaon they would have a perfect track record.
>>Most of the new AoS stuff actually looks good and could easily be used in ToW
All of the Khornate Bloodskullers would look moronic in a proper Chaos army. And since WHF chaos is so closely tied to Norsca the rest of the chaos lines will look equally out of place
Are you trying to say that undivided chaos is the best? Because that's what I'm saying too!
I'm saying that while all of the new God specific models are great they'd clash hard with WHF's aesthetic
Tk's don't really need anything though? The old models are what people want
Why do you keep making this thread? Can't you find anything better to do?
The design of the Bretonnian foot knights is a bit too much in terms of silliness but I'm still glad someone is making a knight faction that looks like what people a hundred years ago thoughts knights looked like.
>So TOW is dead on arrival, huh?
Thank God we have AoS as a containment game.
Just isn’t for a lot of people really, myself included. The problem with Fantasy and AOS is that one is predominantly high fantasy and the other is relatively low fantasy in setting and aesthetic. It’s like comparing 40k and lotr, just isn’t really a one size fits all and you’re always going to get people who want one or the other because that’s “their thing”.
Get outta here with your reasonable take!
Right, but I'm talking about game play. WS and to wound charts, toned down magic, paying to wheel on charges, etc. Stuff like that was striped out of the game to attract these AoS players in the first place, and it will surely repel them. I'm grateful for that because seriously, frick those guys.
> toned down magic
Did you actually play WHFB not see certain armies generate so much power dice their magic was impossible to dispel
Looks more like something from AoS.
nah, if it looked like something from AoS it would actually look good
this looks straight out of 2005