if it crashes, the gpu just returns to an idle state after resetting the driver, you can reset the profile and try again until you get your desired stability with no risk of harming the card. As you're benchmarking if your temperatures are stable and you're not crashing you're all good.
you literally can't mess up overclocking or undervolting because the pc will just reset to defaul and tell you you fricked up.
You are basically leaving free performance on the table due to being stupid.
>its now an insult to have a job that lets me spend a small amount of money of a hobby every few years
Ok. So you dont play video games, or youre extremely poor, got it.
except undervolting makes the card run cooler
running undervolted with a higher clock means you're running the card cooler and faster, and in my case running 4k is magically 60fps now instead of 40-50
I'll need to keep that in mind for if I get a smaller form factor case. The Fractal Terra looks like it's so much fun to build in and cute to use
You are just plain verifiably wrong, and very arrogant about your wrongness too. Pinning the voltage at something lower than stock, i.e. 925mV, gives a dramatic wattage reduction (= lower die temp, fan noise, heat generation and power consumption), but adding more clock speed back to that newly edited V-F curve has almost zero impact on wattage. In other words achieving a clock speed (e.g. 2800MHz) with a lower voltage WILL give you lower wattage for the same performance, and therefore higher perf/W. The only catch is the need to do your own stability testing to find exactly what clock speed your individual unit can handle at each voltage step.
The only thing that higher clock speed might be independently causative of to an appreciable magnitude (other than performance obviously), is dielectric breakdown. But even overclocked, that is irrelevant on modern GPUs as they will surely either 1) die from soldier joints cracking due to thermal cycling or 2) outlive their useful lifespan anyway.
and given that 67c is still more than acceptable and won't really extend the lifespan of your GPU in a considerable way compared to 61c, and that 30% less watt power won't really translate in any significant savings, it's literally not really worth it, just like that anon said
this is like those who tweak their house lights and power outlets to deliver 2-3% less power which will still allow lights and appliance to work as intended but results in cheaper bills, except the "cheaper" bills are actually around 3 dollars saved in a year, which is literally less than a cent a day
I'm not really care about saving money but since you gave me an autistic answer I tried to calculate the money I saved for UV my PC.
it gave me almost 77 watt less power, for a month that gave me US6.60, so around a year that's around US$80 less power bill.
I built in a micro atx case with bad airflow and had to because the case wasn't dissipating heat faster than it was generating it, gpu was at 89c under load, undervolting dropped it where it is now lmao and it will run like that for hours no problem.
Just undervolting these days. Live in a hot country and bought the cheapest of cheap 3080 on launch that runs at max fans within 5 minutes of gameplay.
Undervolt = stock performance at 250w instead of 320
OC with modern rig is not as fun compare to back then during Voodoo and Geforce era, most GPU and CPU these days already default factory OC to almost max setting, so even if you OC your GPU to used 30% more power it barely hit 10% more performance.
Meanwhile if you DC and DV your rig to actual performance you can get almost half the power while maintaining less then 10% performance loss.
I really miss the day when I can OC my Pentium or Athlon CPU for 30% more performance without it shitting itself, now everything already done in the factory because they want to show the media that their brand is the fastest in the market out of the box.
You are just plain verifiably wrong, and very arrogant about your wrongness too. Pinning the voltage at something lower than stock, i.e. 925mV, gives a dramatic wattage reduction (= lower die temp, fan noise, heat generation and power consumption), but adding more clock speed back to that newly edited V-F curve has almost zero impact on wattage. In other words achieving a clock speed (e.g. 2800MHz) with a lower voltage WILL give you lower wattage for the same performance, and therefore higher perf/W. The only catch is the need to do your own stability testing to find exactly what clock speed your individual unit can handle at each voltage step.
The only thing that higher clock speed might be independently causative of to an appreciable magnitude (other than performance obviously), is dielectric breakdown. But even overclocked, that is irrelevant on modern GPUs as they will surely either 1) die from soldier joints cracking due to thermal cycling or 2) outlive their useful lifespan anyway.
I just set a 90% power limit so it draws like 40% less power for 5-10% less performance.
Less temp also mean less fan noise.
based moron
Of course. I can't stand fan noise.
imagine being so poor your pc ever goes above 50c even on 4k
Nah, a zen 2 processor (ryzen 5 3600). It gets hot a lot and most of the times just sucks. Feels like most of the time my GPU is just chilling while the CPU just can't keep up.
What GPU?
I got 2600 and it feels bottle necking my 6700 XT in some game.
Soon I'm gonna upgrade to 5600 which can double or triple my performance in some game.
I am a proud gayming laptop gaymer so no.
Wouldn't there be more reason then as gaming laptops are prone to cooking themselves?
I'd you are a laptop gaymer,
Google undervolting
Yes but this anon doesn't know
I pray for people like them
I'm too scared of ruining my GPU to mess with any overclockimg software. Most I do is fan control to keep my pc quite most of the time.
if it crashes, the gpu just returns to an idle state after resetting the driver, you can reset the profile and try again until you get your desired stability with no risk of harming the card. As you're benchmarking if your temperatures are stable and you're not crashing you're all good.
you literally can't mess up overclocking or undervolting because the pc will just reset to defaul and tell you you fricked up.
You are basically leaving free performance on the table due to being stupid.
i have a 4090
no thanks
Oh so you got more money than brain.
Good for you.
>its now an insult to have a job that lets me spend a small amount of money of a hobby every few years
Ok. So you dont play video games, or youre extremely poor, got it.
i undervolt by 30mv
The returns just aren't worth it for me anymore. It used to be an immense gain in performance, now it's pretty marginal.
10% is immense, any improvement is good especially one that involves running the card cooler
Wow you went from 130 fps to 140 fps and made your gpu hotter and louder.
Enjoy the summer.
except undervolting makes the card run cooler
running undervolted with a higher clock means you're running the card cooler and faster, and in my case running 4k is magically 60fps now instead of 40-50
I use a thermaltake versa h17
>except undervolting makes the card run cooler
Undervolting+Overclocking doesn't you fricking moron.
based moron
You are just plain verifiably wrong, and very arrogant about your wrongness too. Pinning the voltage at something lower than stock, i.e. 925mV, gives a dramatic wattage reduction (= lower die temp, fan noise, heat generation and power consumption), but adding more clock speed back to that newly edited V-F curve has almost zero impact on wattage. In other words achieving a clock speed (e.g. 2800MHz) with a lower voltage WILL give you lower wattage for the same performance, and therefore higher perf/W. The only catch is the need to do your own stability testing to find exactly what clock speed your individual unit can handle at each voltage step.
The only thing that higher clock speed might be independently causative of to an appreciable magnitude (other than performance obviously), is dielectric breakdown. But even overclocked, that is irrelevant on modern GPUs as they will surely either 1) die from soldier joints cracking due to thermal cycling or 2) outlive their useful lifespan anyway.
>cooler
not an issue if you arent poor and have good cooling. if your rig goes above 60c in any game, youre poor.
I got 30% less watt power with 1% less performance.
GPU now only hit 61c most of the time compare to 67c at stock.
and given that 67c is still more than acceptable and won't really extend the lifespan of your GPU in a considerable way compared to 61c, and that 30% less watt power won't really translate in any significant savings, it's literally not really worth it, just like that anon said
this is like those who tweak their house lights and power outlets to deliver 2-3% less power which will still allow lights and appliance to work as intended but results in cheaper bills, except the "cheaper" bills are actually around 3 dollars saved in a year, which is literally less than a cent a day
I'm not really care about saving money but since you gave me an autistic answer I tried to calculate the money I saved for UV my PC.
it gave me almost 77 watt less power, for a month that gave me US6.60, so around a year that's around US$80 less power bill.
Less temp also mean less fan noise.
I haven't tried undervolting before, just overclocking
I built in a micro atx case with bad airflow and had to because the case wasn't dissipating heat faster than it was generating it, gpu was at 89c under load, undervolting dropped it where it is now lmao and it will run like that for hours no problem.
I'll need to keep that in mind for if I get a smaller form factor case. The Fractal Terra looks like it's so much fun to build in and cute to use
Just undervolting these days. Live in a hot country and bought the cheapest of cheap 3080 on launch that runs at max fans within 5 minutes of gameplay.
Undervolt = stock performance at 250w instead of 320
theres no reason not to undervolt your cards
i dont bother with that shit, my gpu is great out of the box
What the hell is undervolting?
>have good cooling
>always 40c max even in intensive games
So why should I undervolt? is this just for people in 40c with no AC and it throttles?
No, I want my computer to last 10 years, which it almost has
i only overclock because im not poor (i have ac and good cooling for my pc)
No. If I want a stronger GPU... I buy a new GPU
>b-b-but I don't have money for a new GPU!
Then you shouldn't be fiddling and potentially fricking up with the only one you have
Overclocking is moronic
Of course. I can't stand fan noise.
I just set a 90% power limit so it draws like 40% less power for 5-10% less performance.
OC with modern rig is not as fun compare to back then during Voodoo and Geforce era, most GPU and CPU these days already default factory OC to almost max setting, so even if you OC your GPU to used 30% more power it barely hit 10% more performance.
Meanwhile if you DC and DV your rig to actual performance you can get almost half the power while maintaining less then 10% performance loss.
I really miss the day when I can OC my Pentium or Athlon CPU for 30% more performance without it shitting itself, now everything already done in the factory because they want to show the media that their brand is the fastest in the market out of the box.
imagine being so poor your pc ever goes above 50c even on 4k
brown hands typed this post
yes. these brown hands bought a 4090 and good cooling.
>now everything already done in the factory because they want to show the media that their brand is the fastest in the market out of the box
It's more like moore's law is dead and now there' diminishing returns compared to the excessive heat generation from more clock cycles
I undervolt both coz they are damaged and i managed to squeeze in 5+ more years of usage
My GPU is fine
I need a new processor though. and not AMD, I got bamboozled. Ryzen sucks.
Let me guess, Zen 1 early adopter?
Nah, a zen 2 processor (ryzen 5 3600). It gets hot a lot and most of the times just sucks. Feels like most of the time my GPU is just chilling while the CPU just can't keep up.
What GPU?
I got 2600 and it feels bottle necking my 6700 XT in some game.
Soon I'm gonna upgrade to 5600 which can double or triple my performance in some game.
i would if i knew how... games i run generally do fine on stock settings, though.