Win 11 LTSC releases at the end of the year. ExplorerPatcher fixes enough for me, so assuming Microsoft doesn't completely shit the bed I'm happy with moving to Windows 11.
For those of you who don't want to move to Windows 11, Win 10 gets 3 years of extended security updates after 2025, and Win 10 21H2 IoT LTSC is supported until January 2032.
>1703-1709 had interns work included for some reason and fricked with memory management >system timers were accidently set too fast and fricked with performance / precision / latency >1809 added more shitty timers to try save more power >2004 added an updated kernel / scheduler >22H2 added another power saving feature that fricks with high precision / latency tasks (gaming) and can only be turned off on Windows 11
1607 and 1803 were the only half decent versions of Windows 10. 1607 being that obsolete that even Windows 7 has better hardware support..
Well my main source has privated his github guides as he couldn't take the slander from normalgays / redditards anymore but I'll see if I can find another source. He had proper testing and evidence, not just snakeoil shit.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Dude I trust you.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
https://github.com/amitxv/TimerResolution
The main article he wrote is private now but you can still use his tool.
You are. "High precision" tasks are ran on real-time kernels - NT isn't one; and gayming isn't "high precision" either, because it implies that even the slightest clock deviation will result in failure. You can drop frames in your bibogaymes and nothing will happen. Real tasks that require high precision are industrial machinery and the like, not fricking games.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ummm are you telling me I bought this 540,000 DPI mouse and 800hz monitor to help my sick noscope flicks for nothing?
im still using 7 on my desktop. this laptop has 10 and it's shit. 11 is much worse though. cant imagine being one of these goy Black folk actually defending this trash
If you're a legitimate owner of Windows 10, and especially if you run a business, then yes the ESUs cost money and are fricking expensive. However, Windows and it's ESUs are both easily pirated.
iot (internet of things) is windows embedded. i'm running it right now on this drive and it's effectively the same damn thing as non-iot ltsc (maybe some little stuff under the hood)
only major difference: for 2021 - regular ltsc support ends Jan 2027 while iot ltsc ends Jan 2032.
i personally am having issues with 2021, bluetooth doesn't work even after hours of troubleshooting and update is a little wonky there's an update that isn't for me that it keeps failing to install i looked it up also it'll bog down on restart often and i'll have to kill the power or wait till it admits it had an oopsie
i'm sticking with iot ltsc 2019 that i've had for years because it just werks and it's supported until Jan 2029. but i'm keeping this drive with 2021 on it to run the occasional game that requires a later version of windows, as few and far in between as those are. currently playing ratchet and clank. frick starfield lol
if you're looking for genuine iso's google 'mass grave windows' and go to the .dev then find 'download windows' there's also activation guides its so fricking simple. remember to deny all data collection options on install. also don't connect to the internet while installing so you don't have to use a microsoft account massgrave (.) dev/genuine-installation-media
exactly.
i'm considering trying it just to see what it does. even if it fixed bluetooth, i'm pretty sure i'm not sticking with 2021. like i said there's just something about it that feels a little worse than 2019
>For those of you who don't want to move to Windows 11
I'm not doing it because it would require reformatting my drives or some shit because if i turn on secureboot or whatever the frick win 11 says it needs it doesn't see any of my drives in the bios anymore
i am simply not doing that
7gays are in mega cope mode right now. A friend of mine is one, and he has to deal with at least five different kinds of crypto malware because his antivirus dropped support and he's unable to do a clean install anymore. Well, he can do a clean install, he'd just have to do it on 11.
7jeet? pajeets are the ones making windows post 7, which are free incidentally...windows 7 is the last white operating system. But here I'm lecturing zoomer hispanics so whatever
Are you starting to realize how moronic your shill campaign for 10 was?
A 10 anon is starting to understand 7 anons. He's starting to believe
Its okay, he'll be ridiculed by 11gays eventually. It's already started happening.
7gays are in mega cope mode right now. A friend of mine is one, and he has to deal with at least five different kinds of crypto malware because his antivirus dropped support and he's unable to do a clean install anymore. Well, he can do a clean install, he'd just have to do it on 11.
>and he's unable to do a clean install anymore. Well, he can do a clean install, he'd just have to do it on 11.
I used a bootable thumb drive with fedora I think on it to download 7 and turn that into an install drive..... like 12 years ago
>Nothing is wrong with windows 7 or 10. OP is just lonely tonight and wants someone to keep him company with a steady supply of (You)s.
Why do you sound so upset over it? lmao
My desktop still runs w7. It's completely offline. It exclusively plays emulators from NES up to about the Wii + arcade through a CRT.
I don't have to "update" it because it works perfectly.
What do you mean by ads, and every 5 minutes?
The only ads you might see if you use web search in taskbar. Maybe in File Explorer if you kept OneDrive installed, it will 'recommend OneDrive'.
been trying out linux i only tried 3 games one via lutris it was a vn it worked, 2 games through steam one worked but had issues/required tweaking and the other wont run at all despite it being the native linux port. windows justwerks im sorry my man
same, friend I'm doing a lot better adapting than I did in my last attempt 12 years ago
My favorite software is pic related, it lets me pipe any programs sound output into any input. Pretty great for soundboard/recording funnies multiplayer games. It like the one thing I've seen so far that linux actually does better than windows in terms of convenience
You absolutely weren't there. XP is the best! WIN 7 is bloatware! Look that aero, just there to drain resources!
Don't speak of shit happened when you were still on diapers.
The point is, it happens every fricking time. It's human nature to reject new stuff, then the litteral 99% of the human race stick with it and there will be always a 1% screaming of shit nobody cares about.
People screaming about muh spyware or muh bloatware are people cut off from reality. The normal user doesn't give a single shit windows is using 2gb of my ram and is perfectly aware that litterally anything i do send my data to god knows where.
Guess what? Normal people go home and want to turn off their pc, then steam, then play a game. Or i am using my pc for work and i don't have the time nor interest to give a single shit of reading what windows update is doing.
baby duck syndrome is entirely justified when it comes to windows. look how awful the consumer releases are. 10 had ads everywhere, moved or removed features and bungled everyone's butthole every other update. the release that actually works like an os should was hidden from the public (ltsc) because little piggies aren't allowed to have nice things.
then, once everyone finally settled into 10, they shit out 11.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>10 had ads everywhere
Not for Education Edition chads
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Microsoft seems to frick up every modern release of windows that takes a few years to unfrick
It's happened so often I'm shocked they haven't figured out what people want out of an OS
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
When they were pressed to actually explain what the frick they were thinking when they released 8, it turned out that a few homosexuals just really really liked tablets and they could not fathom the possibility that not everyone was going to ditch their PCs to use tablets instead.
Microsoft's disconnection from reality is astounding.
At the time vista/7 did bog shit down, mostly a hardware problem for people who'd used the same hardware for 2000/me/xp. My decade old hardware could run 10, so that wasn't an issue, but I have seen people who had craptops (newer than my hardware at the time) that got shafted with the forced 10 upgrade fiasco.
I said that, the only reason I swapped was 64bit support. 7 has worse menu design than XP (menus, breadcrumbs, shell selection moronation, start menu hotkeying broken), that fricking low vram aero bug that you can only disable with a hex patch, sleep/hibernate being fricked up for no reason etc.
though at least they fixed the task manager priority and one or two other things
Yeah yeah sure is just a command line this, a command line there, oh no wait that thing updating caused a problem over another thing, just 10 minutes to look a solution, oh no wait that driver doesn't work so my card runs at 20%, oh that game needs a fix because of goddamn knows what because i have to lose a fricking hour to get something run.
windows 10 on my main machine, linux mint on the home server pc. im probably just gonna go to 10 LTSC for main machine at some point. simple fix really
My 10 pc doesn’t even meet the requirements for 11, not that I’d upgrade anyways
I’m sure tons of pcs built before 2017 don’t support w11, what’s gonna happened to them? Doesn’t Microjeet care about the climate change and environment? Are they just gonna have people throw away millions of tons of toxic e-waste
Arch is pretty easy to install nowadays and offers good gamer performance on pretty much everything that isn't slop. Use the archinstall script, learn to use and love your package manager, bite the bullet and stop procrastinating your escape from microshit, it's the perfect time to do it.
Feel free to go for as long as you can. Being obstinate is admirable in it's own way. But staying still is how you age. Your neuroplasticity and ability to learn new shit degrades every day and even more if you don't keep things fresh. Eventually you'll be facing a future you haven't kept up with and find you no longer can. Like
I don't even feel like you're talking to me anymore. Nobody is more tech illiterate than the whippersnappers fresh out of school. If someone is updating everything just because the device they're using is telling them to, they're the luddite. They've been hearing fairy tails about boogeymen hackers their whole life and it's got them spooked. A fear of technology is born from ignorance. I don't fear modern versions of Windows; I work on them (among others) for my job. I just have a genuine distaste for them because they're repulsive and cause my clients (and subsequently me) more trouble.
This isn't a symptom of age. It's a symptom of experience. I don't want to drive around in a smart car that tells me the vibrating princess plug in my ass has a low battery. I want to drive around in my busted ass jeep.
Except I know how to use linux, but my experience generally revolves around migrating linux servers to OpenBSD solutions. TCO drops due to the consistency of releases and the lack of bleeding edge homosexualry implemented in the kernel and the thousands of possible userlands.
That's cool anon. You should try a linux desktop environment where the "bleeding edge homosexualry" is arguably actually useful, instead a server environment where it's only ever going to be sheer detriment, so you can form a more well rounded opinion about the work being done.
Why? If it ain't broke, don't fix it, and Windows ain't been broke in years.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's fun to try new things, and potentially helpful to yourself and others. Plant some trees for future generations to enjoy, test some shit you don't even want to personally use. Provide to the development ecosystem so things become less shit.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I came out of the womb solo. I do what works for me.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I know anon, this is why I called you a midwit earlier. Imagine being a network tech and having this kind of mindset. Are you sure you're not a pajeet?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Imagine being a network tech and having "linux" in your vocabulary. Are you sure you're not 12?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm going to tell you that it's pathetic to be in any tech discipline without an appreciation and engagement with the development processes that lead historically to your livelihood being possible. This kind of shit is why "end users" exist and why as one, you're suffering the consequences of businesses like Microsoft having way more market share, dev hours, and adoption towards horrid software than they deserve. Don't complain about being served shit on a platter (new windows bad!!!) when it's all you show interest in eating (7 still good actually!!!)
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Imagine not being able to follow the thread of a conversation. It must be hard to live with a sub-150 IQ.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm just speaking my own truth. Feel as emasculated by it as you want, maybe you'll better yourself as a result.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes, your own truth, which is assembled from misreading the conversation or (most likely, given Ganker) outright lies.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Provide an actual point of argument against what I said or frick off secondary.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>new windows bad, old windows good homosexualry
I never said or implied any of that. You made that up completely out of whole cloth, making your entire statement a lie as a result. There's no reason to continue the statement or a conversation with you, because you have been known to lie, and anything else coming from you can be assumed to be lies as well.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I never said or implied any of that.
Cool, so why does my statement bother you? I'm not arguing with you then dumbass.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I never said or implied any of that.
Cool, so why does my statement bother you? I'm not arguing with you then dumbass.
Cont. for your benefit, the truth is I'm not really arguing with you with a mind to change your opinion, or even pretending I care about your shit, because I know you're just a set in your ways boomer. These are just talking points that arise out of making fun of you a little. You're not the kind of target I'd actually try to attack with rhetoric, you're just my case study. Don't spiral out on me here.
arch would be immmensly easier if nvidia didn't exist, it fricked up my DXVK so bad that i need to use lutris to run most shit. half tempted to start over but would have no idea how to do that on arch.
Honestly I dunno why Valve worded it that way
What actually happens now is that they won't test shit on 7 anymore and if a future Steam update just happens to break 7 support they won't fix it
They made it sound like Steam would suddenly just stop running on 7 at a specific date
The only thing that I had to work around on 7 was python, but even that was solved with a simple git pull. So many people I interact with accuse me of being a luddite when they find out I still use 7 at home, but then they get confused when they learn I'm a network engineer. People foolishly updating software unnecessarily costs companies billions of dollars per year. It's common sense that if it's not broken don't fix it. Let the professionals sandbox it first if you have security concerns.
You are a luddite and in the early stages of becoming a boomer, but if the people accusing you of being one are still also using windows they're worse than you. Paradigm shift away from Windows, it's fricked.
You missed the part where I mentioned my profession. I work on (almost) cutting edge hardware and software on a daily basis. I prefer using 7 at home because my home PC isn't for cutting edge shit. It's for shitposting and relaxing. Is new software going to make that better?
>Is new software going to make that better?
Yes. Your answer is fair, though.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Yes.
Enlighten me.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Try a tiling WM for extreme shitposting comfort and efficiency.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Not interested. Anything else?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's tough to make earnest suggestions without a good grasp of what you tend to use already. List some applications you use.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
What you're not understanding is that everything I use functions exactly as I want it to. Every inconvenience I've ever encountered I've found a solution for. I'm asking something impossible from you so I was never expecting an earnest answer. I was illustrating that the newer versions of Windows don't actually improve a user's experience. In most cases it makes things measurably worse. Just like with Unix systems there's a tremendous benefit of using a static OS that always operates exactly as you expect it to without some busybody company poking its nose in and telling you that your computer needs to change something. It might be different if this PC were used for sensitive or financial things, but it doesn't. It's a true shitbox that is only used to goof off on the Internet.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No, use bleeding edge software and provide bug reports for it and testing to improve things for others, even on your home shitbox. Ride and die on every commit and if it breaks your entire install, good, it's your shitposting PC so by your admission its stability doesn't even matter. You've simply become old.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't even feel like you're talking to me anymore. Nobody is more tech illiterate than the whippersnappers fresh out of school. If someone is updating everything just because the device they're using is telling them to, they're the luddite. They've been hearing fairy tails about boogeymen hackers their whole life and it's got them spooked. A fear of technology is born from ignorance. I don't fear modern versions of Windows; I work on them (among others) for my job. I just have a genuine distaste for them because they're repulsive and cause my clients (and subsequently me) more trouble.
This isn't a symptom of age. It's a symptom of experience. I don't want to drive around in a smart car that tells me the vibrating princess plug in my ass has a low battery. I want to drive around in my busted ass jeep.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I don't even feel like you're talking to me anymore.
I'm not really, the dialogue I'm provoking is more for the benefit of other readers of the thread who're witnessing you being an admittedly slightly higher-end midwit about this shit. Your comfy setup is fine for you, but a kind of little-death retirement home others should be viscerally aware of though.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i dunno anonymous,
No, use bleeding edge software and provide bug reports for it and testing to improve things for others, even on your home shitbox. Ride and die on every commit and if it breaks your entire install, good, it's your shitposting PC so by your admission its stability doesn't even matter. You've simply become old.
sounds like a blatant bait, are you sure you are not bulshitting anybody?
distributors wouldn't provide LTS versions if updating was always the right choice, they wouldn't keep old programs
wait until you hear about c99 and the age of toolchains that support it
the whole DUDE UPDATE attitude is extra weird when it comes down to windows, since even the most idiotic user can see how the ""modern"" black settings ui is nothing but plaster over the actually useful older ones
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I literally don't care about windows. When I say "Bleeding edge" I really mean "use linux instead you fricking moron" hope that explains my thought process so you understand it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
then skip this song and dance and go straight for the shilling
you should know how much 30 year old shit linux has, compared to windows that keeps reinventing the wheel, so UPDATE TO THE CURRENT THING is a stupid point
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
already on it chief
That's cool anon. You should try a linux desktop environment where the "bleeding edge homosexualry" is arguably actually useful, instead a server environment where it's only ever going to be sheer detriment, so you can form a more well rounded opinion about the work being done.
I'll admit there's a ton of old as frick problematic shit i hate in linux too, but adopting greater support and interest is the gateway to those problems eventually being solved.
I HATE MSEDGE SO GOD DAMN MUCH. FRICKING GAY ASS WINDOWS UPDATES. FRICKING DIE! FRICKNIGNSADUIFJHNSD AIUP FHNSADOI[LGF]SD
FSDAJMF KHJSADF UI=SEAJFHNENUISEJDMOFKEDASVFSEADFVSD 6 GORILLIAN SVCHOST PROCESSES
Windows 10 just cannot remember window positions. What is that? what the frick even is that? I swear that shit was fixed back in pre Win7 windows. SO why not now? I'm so god damn angry. I have to use a 3rd party program for that shit? I swear I will celebrate any mass casuality event that occurs in Redmond. frick tehm.
I'm convinced all operating systems are dogshit and it's a matter of picking your poison when it comes to your daily driver. >t. works on loonigs and windows for a living
I will unironically become a Linux gay or just straight up stop using my PC before I use an OS with fricking advertisements in the menus and extremely limited user control
just dual boot another os to frick around with it (even multiple windowses, but they can be pretty heavy)
you do know how to control boot order, right?
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/14312-restore-windows-photo-viewer-windows-10-a.html#option2
Just download & run that registry edit.
Yes, it works for IoT LTSC 2021.
No, it's not a virus. You can open it in notepad and see for yourself what it does. >I can't even find it.
It's technically not an exe.
>tiktok 10
Brother fricking nerds got v122 of chrome to work on xp. When they is an autistic there is a way
https://github.com/Alex313031/thorium-legacy/releases/tag/M122.0.6261.168
I really don't wanna use Windows anymore, but there just aren't any other viable options out there without giving up most of my vidya and other applications.
I just want something that's compatible with all the things that I'm running on Windows right now. I could probably learn how to use a new OS, even though it would be annoying with left-click is now right-click and vice versa, and some other stuff. But it would still be really annoying transition and starting over learning something new.
I'm actually looking at ZorinOS right now. It looks good with the ability to make the desktop even look like Windows. It also seems to have ways to be compatible with Steam and most games even. However, it doesn't seem be work with Foobar2000 and I really NEED that program on my computer.
>swap between windows/linux whenever
How does this work exactly. Do you get an option when booting up the PC as to which OS you want to it launch during boot?
>Do you get an option when booting up the PC
yes.
it's better to have a separate imo because of boot partitions. as a matter of convenience. google can help you out but once you figure out the basics it's really fricking simple
I'm actually looking at ZorinOS right now. It looks good with the ability to make the desktop even look like Windows. It also seems to have ways to be compatible with Steam and most games even. However, it doesn't seem be work with Foobar2000 and I really NEED that program on my computer.
i recently found out about atlasOS, somehow modded windows. idk if i'd ever try unless 11 is really bad, mite be looking into if linux is too much. hopefully 11 ltsc doesn't suck ass when it finally comes out.
how are we in 2024 when people on this site have no idea what dual-booting is
it's so fricking over
don't be a Black person, tech illiteracy is only going to get worse. might as well be nice to those trying to climb out of it.
Do not ever upgrade to Windows 11. This is the worst fricking operating system I've ever seen. There are so many issues with it from top to bottom that will just brick your PC because Microsoft forces updates on you, even if they frick up other processes. Frick Windows 11
I got a new laptop and it came preinstalled with Windows 11. After setting it up without linking a microsoft account, it occasionally tries to trick/force me into linking one. This always online bullshit is annoying
You can hack a new install with it removed, but otherwise, it REALLY wants you to. I use one because it allows me to use Windows Hello, which speeds up login (and also thwarts keyloggers for Windows itself).
Literally no reason to be using 10 at this point. Yah 11 has that dumb requirement bs, but anyone with half a brain cell can bypass it. Other than that, 11 performs better than 10.
Steam should support the same operating systems as the games it's selling. How is it even legal to have access to your purchases arbitrarily restricted?
>frick you, we need a cpu from at least three years ago to update >nooooo you can’t run it on anything older than that because…well you just can’t!
lol, lmao
Windows is the only desktop OS. I'm just imagining all the weeb linux fatties who might change their tune knowing it's popular in the land of subway groping.
They couldn't "tinker" with their OS, just like they "tinker" with their genitals if they used Windows. >it's popular in the land of subway groping.
I think that troonix is perfect for them then.
I will switch to 11 once it becomes somewhat usable and doesn't have a shit stuffed into every feature.
It took Win 10 over 4 years to become usable as well, so I expect roughly the same time here for it to become less shit.
What's happened? I was using steam on win 7 like 3 weeks ago (moved to new hardware and the pain of some games requiring 10 or running them on 7, which would be unstable with the provided work arounds) was getting annoying. Like MOST stuff I played worked, it seemed to be MS related things that wouldn't run.
I hate 10 so much. Took a week to finally lock down this LTSC. Only problem is every time I've wanted to install something (like lang packs, or some other .net package I have to spend an hour allowing update+services, installing shit, then murdering all the services/registry/elevated user privs to stop the update orch again). Eventually I hope I'll get to the point I don't need to do that, but I'm paranoid that I'll forget something one time and I'll be met with the ever wonderful 'you're updating right now, I don't care what you're doing' bullshit. Frick off miscroshit.
I'll never understand why people don't upgrade. My brother is still on 7.
11 is better in every way. You don't even have to pay for it. Just pirate it, load O&OShutUp to kill all the privacy issues (update when necessary), have full backup harddrive ready, and boom you're done.
And this is coming from someone who used to loathe Windows like you wouldn't believe. So much so, I bought a early '08 Mac Pro on a retail paycheck (finally sold it a several years ago). I decided to give Windows just one more try and 10/11 worked just fine. I did have one issue where I had to do a re-install. But I had a backup, so I was done in an hour or so.
You guys are making a bigger deal out of upgrading than it needs to be. It's free. It works great. And it's what we got until Linux stops being fricking stupid and launches an actual competition gaming OS. And no, there's nothing even close on the market (need HDR, easy to install and backup, and complete oculus 2 connectivity).
What does 11 let me do that 7 can't do? Nothing. Windows has not added anything since 8.1 that actually improves the experience, stability nor provides something that is an actual improvement to quality of life.
What does 11 no longer allow me to do that 7 allowed me to do? A lot.
It is absolutely moronic that I need to bother with a bunch of third party programs and registry/policy editing to do things that the older version of the OS actually has options for. Even something as fricking simple as changing the desktop/system font is no longer an option in 11. It USED TO BE and then they patched it out.
>I'll never understand why people don't upgrade. My brother is still on 7.
Show me the setting in Windows 11 that gives me a vertical taskbar. It's ridiculous that 11 has stripped out basic features like that have been in Windows since fricking XP.
It's THE argument. If you want to suck wiener, linux will let you have a circular taskbar that teleports around the screen to the beat of "It's Raining Men."
>just upgreate >what are you poor? >just buy the Windows 12 subscription >just upgreate to the mentally ill OS instead, where you have to upgreate even more often >Valve is innocent, they just built their shitty DRM garbage client using Google Chrome garbage >it's it's Google >Google added loot boxes and battle passes!!!
>TSSD LIITSKH
>SDZHDYADBD
>RFYA D SFESTIVIBDB
What did they mean by this?
"Use linux, get vodka" and "receive a free e-girl"
зaчeм
USA LINUX
CAMARADA
POR LA
COLECTIVIDAD
chiyo-chan is so cute!
culturally relevant chiyo!
You will never be a real woman, lintroony.
I am still using 8.1 and don't plan to leave no sir
POST DESKTOP
Literally a default black screen
Post backlog
>720P
>21:47 p.m.
>19/04/2024
Serial killer vibes.
Enjoy your malware.
Post antivirus voucher
malware developers go to where they can target the largest population of morons which will always be the most recent version
spoilers: he's referring to 8.1
You had better be using open shell
ayy 8.1 brother
the worst windows ever if you're not trolling you must be a masochist or just moronic since the update is free
7 > 10 > 8.1 > 8
but mine is supported until 2032?
"Yours" that you didn't pay for?
Indeed
Can't exactly pay for something that isn't sold to consumers
Problem there matey?
Even better
Feels good man
>"mine"
I think you mean "This computer is supported until 2032"
You own nothing.
Win 11 LTSC releases at the end of the year. ExplorerPatcher fixes enough for me, so assuming Microsoft doesn't completely shit the bed I'm happy with moving to Windows 11.
For those of you who don't want to move to Windows 11, Win 10 gets 3 years of extended security updates after 2025, and Win 10 21H2 IoT LTSC is supported until January 2032.
I would have stayed on 7 forever if I could have.
same
Me too.
10 was bad at launch but after a couple years it was better than 7 ever was
>1703-1709 had interns work included for some reason and fricked with memory management
>system timers were accidently set too fast and fricked with performance / precision / latency
>1809 added more shitty timers to try save more power
>2004 added an updated kernel / scheduler
>22H2 added another power saving feature that fricks with high precision / latency tasks (gaming) and can only be turned off on Windows 11
1607 and 1803 were the only half decent versions of Windows 10. 1607 being that obsolete that even Windows 7 has better hardware support..
>22H2 added another power saving feature that fricks with high precision / latency tasks (gaming) and can only be turned off on Windows 11
QRD?
Well my main source has privated his github guides as he couldn't take the slander from normalgays / redditards anymore but I'll see if I can find another source. He had proper testing and evidence, not just snakeoil shit.
Dude I trust you.
https://github.com/amitxv/TimerResolution
The main article he wrote is private now but you can still use his tool.
QRD is stop believing every bullshit you hear on the internet.
This included.
>high precision / latency tasks
>(gaming)
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you stupid or something?
You are. "High precision" tasks are ran on real-time kernels - NT isn't one; and gayming isn't "high precision" either, because it implies that even the slightest clock deviation will result in failure. You can drop frames in your bibogaymes and nothing will happen. Real tasks that require high precision are industrial machinery and the like, not fricking games.
Ummm are you telling me I bought this 540,000 DPI mouse and 800hz monitor to help my sick noscope flicks for nothing?
Same.
im still using 7 on my desktop. this laptop has 10 and it's shit. 11 is much worse though. cant imagine being one of these goy Black folk actually defending this trash
>admits to being a israelite
Nu-Ganker, everyone.
Also, there's no compelling reason for me to use anything but 11. It just works.™
They forced me to change to 11 at work. It’s less intuitive and uglier. At least they moved the task bar icons out of the middle I guess.
So far there are three games I'm missing out not using w10-11 which is KH, Death Stranding and gear tactics. I can live without those.
so I read in a lot of clickbait sites that you need to pay for updates of windows 10 past 2025?
Yes for the consumer version. If you install a LTSC one you get until 2032 if I remember correctly
If you're a legitimate owner of Windows 10, and especially if you run a business, then yes the ESUs cost money and are fricking expensive. However, Windows and it's ESUs are both easily pirated.
extended updates, yes (ESU).
Though, LTSC 2021 has support until 2032.
>Win 10 21H2 IoT LTSC
whats the difference between it and windows 10 ltsc NON ioT?
iot (internet of things) is windows embedded. i'm running it right now on this drive and it's effectively the same damn thing as non-iot ltsc (maybe some little stuff under the hood)
only major difference: for 2021 - regular ltsc support ends Jan 2027 while iot ltsc ends Jan 2032.
i personally am having issues with 2021, bluetooth doesn't work even after hours of troubleshooting and update is a little wonky there's an update that isn't for me that it keeps failing to install i looked it up also it'll bog down on restart often and i'll have to kill the power or wait till it admits it had an oopsie
i'm sticking with iot ltsc 2019 that i've had for years because it just werks and it's supported until Jan 2029. but i'm keeping this drive with 2021 on it to run the occasional game that requires a later version of windows, as few and far in between as those are. currently playing ratchet and clank. frick starfield lol
if you're looking for genuine iso's google 'mass grave windows' and go to the .dev then find 'download windows' there's also activation guides its so fricking simple. remember to deny all data collection options on install. also don't connect to the internet while installing so you don't have to use a microsoft account
massgrave (.) dev/genuine-installation-media
>there's an update that isn't for me that it keeps failing to install i looked it up
is it the one they want you to resize the recovery partition for
exactly.
i'm considering trying it just to see what it does. even if it fixed bluetooth, i'm pretty sure i'm not sticking with 2021. like i said there's just something about it that feels a little worse than 2019
>For those of you who don't want to move to Windows 11
I'm not doing it because it would require reformatting my drives or some shit because if i turn on secureboot or whatever the frick win 11 says it needs it doesn't see any of my drives in the bios anymore
i am simply not doing that
Still using steam on 7 get bent homosexual
Thank You, sir.
If Windows 7 gays are still using Windows 7 despite having their support "dropped" by Steam, why shouldn't I keep using Windows 10 then?
A 10 anon is starting to understand 7 anons. He's starting to believe
He's still using 10, so there's a lot more work that needs to be done
I don't care if he's on 10 anisoy
7gays are in mega cope mode right now. A friend of mine is one, and he has to deal with at least five different kinds of crypto malware because his antivirus dropped support and he's unable to do a clean install anymore. Well, he can do a clean install, he'd just have to do it on 11.
That's not a windows 7 issue. It's called your friend is a fricking moron downloading god knows what.
I would say your friend is a moron for not saving clean install disks or bootable usb, if he is that moron to using 7 like a caveman.
>computer illiterates need to use antiviruses still
how quaint, maybe someone should tell them they can just not install viruses
Oddly enough, I find myself agreeing with a 7jeet.
7jeet? pajeets are the ones making windows post 7, which are free incidentally...windows 7 is the last white operating system. But here I'm lecturing zoomer hispanics so whatever
Yes, but pajeets are poor. Poor people don't have hardware that necessitates modern Windows.
you mean the "modern" windows, designed for phones?
Last version of Nvidia drivers supported by Windows 7 was released over a year before the first version supporting my GPU, Rajesh.
Mazel tov, Hyman Goldblatt. I play vidya (hence Ganker). Moar power makes vidya smoother and purtier, which makes it a more enjoyable experience.
so you made this post to tell me you dont understand what drivers are?
So you responded to tell me you're poor and stupid? I found a job for you.
Anti virsus? I stopped using those like 15 years ago. Commonsense is just too good. If you ARE worried, VM it.
Are you starting to realize how moronic your shill campaign for 10 was?
Its okay, he'll be ridiculed by 11gays eventually. It's already started happening.
>and he's unable to do a clean install anymore. Well, he can do a clean install, he'd just have to do it on 11.
I used a bootable thumb drive with fedora I think on it to download 7 and turn that into an install drive..... like 12 years ago
Why is there no e-girl windows mascot? Firefox has e-girl, why not windows?
bro? your ME-tan?
Why is there exclamation mark on that button?
Steam still works fine on Windows 7. What's the issue with Windows 10?
Nothing is wrong with windows 7 or 10. OP is just lonely tonight and wants someone to keep him company with a steady supply of (You)s.
>Nothing is wrong with windows 7 or 10. OP is just lonely tonight and wants someone to keep him company with a steady supply of (You)s.
Why do you sound so upset over it? lmao
Update to 11 sirs
You have two (dos) ((deux)) ~~*שתיים*~~ ~~*(twee*~~) ~~*((iki*~~)) ~~*~~*2*~~*~~ years Steamtards
My desktop still runs w7. It's completely offline. It exclusively plays emulators from NES up to about the Wii + arcade through a CRT.
I don't have to "update" it because it works perfectly.
is it true Win 11 has ads every 5 minutes?
What do you mean by ads, and every 5 minutes?
The only ads you might see if you use web search in taskbar. Maybe in File Explorer if you kept OneDrive installed, it will 'recommend OneDrive'.
No, I haven't seen ads in Windows 11
i took the linux pill and i wont be mad until a game i wanna play doesnt work (hasnt happened yet)
been trying out linux i only tried 3 games one via lutris it was a vn it worked, 2 games through steam one worked but had issues/required tweaking and the other wont run at all despite it being the native linux port. windows justwerks im sorry my man
same, friend I'm doing a lot better adapting than I did in my last attempt 12 years ago
My favorite software is pic related, it lets me pipe any programs sound output into any input. Pretty great for soundboard/recording funnies multiplayer games. It like the one thing I've seen so far that linux actually does better than windows in terms of convenience
>I'll never switch to 7!
>OK I switched to 7 but I'll never switch to 10
>OK I switched to 10 but I'll never switch to 11
>I'll never switch to 7!
Said nobody ever. Still on W7. The last decent windows OS
You absolutely weren't there. XP is the best! WIN 7 is bloatware! Look that aero, just there to drain resources!
Don't speak of shit happened when you were still on diapers.
To be fair XP was the peak and I would pick it over 7 if I had the chance, but 7 is still good all things considered.
The point is, it happens every fricking time. It's human nature to reject new stuff, then the litteral 99% of the human race stick with it and there will be always a 1% screaming of shit nobody cares about.
People screaming about muh spyware or muh bloatware are people cut off from reality. The normal user doesn't give a single shit windows is using 2gb of my ram and is perfectly aware that litterally anything i do send my data to god knows where.
Guess what? Normal people go home and want to turn off their pc, then steam, then play a game. Or i am using my pc for work and i don't have the time nor interest to give a single shit of reading what windows update is doing.
baby duck syndrome is entirely justified when it comes to windows. look how awful the consumer releases are. 10 had ads everywhere, moved or removed features and bungled everyone's butthole every other update. the release that actually works like an os should was hidden from the public (ltsc) because little piggies aren't allowed to have nice things.
then, once everyone finally settled into 10, they shit out 11.
>10 had ads everywhere
Not for Education Edition chads
Microsoft seems to frick up every modern release of windows that takes a few years to unfrick
It's happened so often I'm shocked they haven't figured out what people want out of an OS
When they were pressed to actually explain what the frick they were thinking when they released 8, it turned out that a few homosexuals just really really liked tablets and they could not fathom the possibility that not everyone was going to ditch their PCs to use tablets instead.
Microsoft's disconnection from reality is astounding.
7 was just a clean/modern-looking XP so it just worked.
At the time vista/7 did bog shit down, mostly a hardware problem for people who'd used the same hardware for 2000/me/xp. My decade old hardware could run 10, so that wasn't an issue, but I have seen people who had craptops (newer than my hardware at the time) that got shafted with the forced 10 upgrade fiasco.
I said that, the only reason I swapped was 64bit support. 7 has worse menu design than XP (menus, breadcrumbs, shell selection moronation, start menu hotkeying broken), that fricking low vram aero bug that you can only disable with a hex patch, sleep/hibernate being fricked up for no reason etc.
though at least they fixed the task manager priority and one or two other things
That means everyone has two years to switch to Linux.
Sure i am tired of playing videogames and using my pc for work like a normal person.
u must play fortnite only and use adobe if this is a big concern to u
Yeah yeah sure is just a command line this, a command line there, oh no wait that thing updating caused a problem over another thing, just 10 minutes to look a solution, oh no wait that driver doesn't work so my card runs at 20%, oh that game needs a fix because of goddamn knows what because i have to lose a fricking hour to get something run.
skill issue
windows 10 on my main machine, linux mint on the home server pc. im probably just gonna go to 10 LTSC for main machine at some point. simple fix really
>computer crashes
>boots into forced update despite updates being paused for another few weeks
I love windows 10
My 10 pc doesn’t even meet the requirements for 11, not that I’d upgrade anyways
I’m sure tons of pcs built before 2017 don’t support w11, what’s gonna happened to them? Doesn’t Microjeet care about the climate change and environment? Are they just gonna have people throw away millions of tons of toxic e-waste
YOU CAN TAKE WINDOWS 7 FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!
Arch is pretty easy to install nowadays and offers good gamer performance on pretty much everything that isn't slop. Use the archinstall script, learn to use and love your package manager, bite the bullet and stop procrastinating your escape from microshit, it's the perfect time to do it.
Sorry, but I'm sticking with Windows 11.
Feel free to go for as long as you can. Being obstinate is admirable in it's own way. But staying still is how you age. Your neuroplasticity and ability to learn new shit degrades every day and even more if you don't keep things fresh. Eventually you'll be facing a future you haven't kept up with and find you no longer can. Like
Except I know how to use linux, but my experience generally revolves around migrating linux servers to OpenBSD solutions. TCO drops due to the consistency of releases and the lack of bleeding edge homosexualry implemented in the kernel and the thousands of possible userlands.
That's cool anon. You should try a linux desktop environment where the "bleeding edge homosexualry" is arguably actually useful, instead a server environment where it's only ever going to be sheer detriment, so you can form a more well rounded opinion about the work being done.
Why? If it ain't broke, don't fix it, and Windows ain't been broke in years.
It's fun to try new things, and potentially helpful to yourself and others. Plant some trees for future generations to enjoy, test some shit you don't even want to personally use. Provide to the development ecosystem so things become less shit.
I came out of the womb solo. I do what works for me.
I know anon, this is why I called you a midwit earlier. Imagine being a network tech and having this kind of mindset. Are you sure you're not a pajeet?
Imagine being a network tech and having "linux" in your vocabulary. Are you sure you're not 12?
I'm going to tell you that it's pathetic to be in any tech discipline without an appreciation and engagement with the development processes that lead historically to your livelihood being possible. This kind of shit is why "end users" exist and why as one, you're suffering the consequences of businesses like Microsoft having way more market share, dev hours, and adoption towards horrid software than they deserve. Don't complain about being served shit on a platter (new windows bad!!!) when it's all you show interest in eating (7 still good actually!!!)
Imagine not being able to follow the thread of a conversation. It must be hard to live with a sub-150 IQ.
I'm just speaking my own truth. Feel as emasculated by it as you want, maybe you'll better yourself as a result.
Yes, your own truth, which is assembled from misreading the conversation or (most likely, given Ganker) outright lies.
Provide an actual point of argument against what I said or frick off secondary.
>new windows bad, old windows good homosexualry
I never said or implied any of that. You made that up completely out of whole cloth, making your entire statement a lie as a result. There's no reason to continue the statement or a conversation with you, because you have been known to lie, and anything else coming from you can be assumed to be lies as well.
>I never said or implied any of that.
Cool, so why does my statement bother you? I'm not arguing with you then dumbass.
Cont. for your benefit, the truth is I'm not really arguing with you with a mind to change your opinion, or even pretending I care about your shit, because I know you're just a set in your ways boomer. These are just talking points that arise out of making fun of you a little. You're not the kind of target I'd actually try to attack with rhetoric, you're just my case study. Don't spiral out on me here.
Consoomer
arch would be immmensly easier if nvidia didn't exist, it fricked up my DXVK so bad that i need to use lutris to run most shit. half tempted to start over but would have no idea how to do that on arch.
I'm swapping to linux and haiku lol
Oh no. My arch nemesis. Deadlines other people decided.
jej
Honestly I dunno why Valve worded it that way
What actually happens now is that they won't test shit on 7 anymore and if a future Steam update just happens to break 7 support they won't fix it
They made it sound like Steam would suddenly just stop running on 7 at a specific date
They probably want people to be on something else so it won't break on them. I agree it could be worded better but people are moronic.
I farmed points like mad
The only thing that I had to work around on 7 was python, but even that was solved with a simple git pull. So many people I interact with accuse me of being a luddite when they find out I still use 7 at home, but then they get confused when they learn I'm a network engineer. People foolishly updating software unnecessarily costs companies billions of dollars per year. It's common sense that if it's not broken don't fix it. Let the professionals sandbox it first if you have security concerns.
You are a luddite and in the early stages of becoming a boomer, but if the people accusing you of being one are still also using windows they're worse than you. Paradigm shift away from Windows, it's fricked.
You missed the part where I mentioned my profession. I work on (almost) cutting edge hardware and software on a daily basis. I prefer using 7 at home because my home PC isn't for cutting edge shit. It's for shitposting and relaxing. Is new software going to make that better?
>Is new software going to make that better?
Yes. Your answer is fair, though.
>Yes.
Enlighten me.
Try a tiling WM for extreme shitposting comfort and efficiency.
Not interested. Anything else?
It's tough to make earnest suggestions without a good grasp of what you tend to use already. List some applications you use.
What you're not understanding is that everything I use functions exactly as I want it to. Every inconvenience I've ever encountered I've found a solution for. I'm asking something impossible from you so I was never expecting an earnest answer. I was illustrating that the newer versions of Windows don't actually improve a user's experience. In most cases it makes things measurably worse. Just like with Unix systems there's a tremendous benefit of using a static OS that always operates exactly as you expect it to without some busybody company poking its nose in and telling you that your computer needs to change something. It might be different if this PC were used for sensitive or financial things, but it doesn't. It's a true shitbox that is only used to goof off on the Internet.
No, use bleeding edge software and provide bug reports for it and testing to improve things for others, even on your home shitbox. Ride and die on every commit and if it breaks your entire install, good, it's your shitposting PC so by your admission its stability doesn't even matter. You've simply become old.
I don't even feel like you're talking to me anymore. Nobody is more tech illiterate than the whippersnappers fresh out of school. If someone is updating everything just because the device they're using is telling them to, they're the luddite. They've been hearing fairy tails about boogeymen hackers their whole life and it's got them spooked. A fear of technology is born from ignorance. I don't fear modern versions of Windows; I work on them (among others) for my job. I just have a genuine distaste for them because they're repulsive and cause my clients (and subsequently me) more trouble.
This isn't a symptom of age. It's a symptom of experience. I don't want to drive around in a smart car that tells me the vibrating princess plug in my ass has a low battery. I want to drive around in my busted ass jeep.
>I don't even feel like you're talking to me anymore.
I'm not really, the dialogue I'm provoking is more for the benefit of other readers of the thread who're witnessing you being an admittedly slightly higher-end midwit about this shit. Your comfy setup is fine for you, but a kind of little-death retirement home others should be viscerally aware of though.
i dunno anonymous,
sounds like a blatant bait, are you sure you are not bulshitting anybody?
distributors wouldn't provide LTS versions if updating was always the right choice, they wouldn't keep old programs
wait until you hear about c99 and the age of toolchains that support it
the whole DUDE UPDATE attitude is extra weird when it comes down to windows, since even the most idiotic user can see how the ""modern"" black settings ui is nothing but plaster over the actually useful older ones
I literally don't care about windows. When I say "Bleeding edge" I really mean "use linux instead you fricking moron" hope that explains my thought process so you understand it.
then skip this song and dance and go straight for the shilling
you should know how much 30 year old shit linux has, compared to windows that keeps reinventing the wheel, so UPDATE TO THE CURRENT THING is a stupid point
already on it chief
I'll admit there's a ton of old as frick problematic shit i hate in linux too, but adopting greater support and interest is the gateway to those problems eventually being solved.
luddites were right, the industrial revolution disaster etc etc
works on my machine
wat gpu
RTX 2080
official win 7 drivers still?
Yes. Even 3000 series have Windows 7 drivers.
I HATE MSEDGE SO GOD DAMN MUCH. FRICKING GAY ASS WINDOWS UPDATES. FRICKING DIE! FRICKNIGNSADUIFJHNSD AIUP FHNSADOI[LGF]SD
FSDAJMF KHJSADF UI=SEAJFHNENUISEJDMOFKEDASVFSEADFVSD 6 GORILLIAN SVCHOST PROCESSES
install linux.
Windows 10 just cannot remember window positions. What is that? what the frick even is that? I swear that shit was fixed back in pre Win7 windows. SO why not now? I'm so god damn angry. I have to use a 3rd party program for that shit? I swear I will celebrate any mass casuality event that occurs in Redmond. frick tehm.
SIR YOUR COMPUTER WILL CATCH VIRUS SIR
YOU MUST ACCEPT THE WINDOWS AND I RECEIVE YOU Amazon GIFT CARD
I'm convinced all operating systems are dogshit and it's a matter of picking your poison when it comes to your daily driver.
>t. works on loonigs and windows for a living
yes but the problem is things keep getting worse now
phonegays have doomed us
Gentoo is the only non-shit OS, it's just a lot of work.
I can comfortably run like a 300 package system because I don't have to enable optional features at build time.
Stable packages are always actually tested by real humans so malware or serious issues is highly unlikely.
I will unironically become a Linux gay or just straight up stop using my PC before I use an OS with fricking advertisements in the menus and extremely limited user control
just dual boot another os to frick around with it (even multiple windowses, but they can be pretty heavy)
you do know how to control boot order, right?
how the frick do I get photo viewer to work
I can't even find it.
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/14312-restore-windows-photo-viewer-windows-10-a.html#option2
Just download & run that registry edit.
Yes, it works for IoT LTSC 2021.
No, it's not a virus. You can open it in notepad and see for yourself what it does.
>I can't even find it.
It's technically not an exe.
Does 10 really have ads? Built-in?
Not my problem. I will also buy Windows 12 on release. I like collecting the boxes.
Wow. They still do media kits? I always set up PXEBoot installations.
They do, but they come with in a small USB now. I just hope they keep making them.
I'm on the lsct so I actually have 10 years.
But will Steam have 10 years?
bro im still on windows 7 rofl
>tiktok 10
Brother fricking nerds got v122 of chrome to work on xp. When they is an autistic there is a way
https://github.com/Alex313031/thorium-legacy/releases/tag/M122.0.6261.168
I really don't wanna use Windows anymore, but there just aren't any other viable options out there without giving up most of my vidya and other applications.
There are and you know it, you're just lazy.
Sometimes you need to let go of you have before you can move on to greener pastures..
I just want something that's compatible with all the things that I'm running on Windows right now. I could probably learn how to use a new OS, even though it would be annoying with left-click is now right-click and vice versa, and some other stuff. But it would still be really annoying transition and starting over learning something new.
Loonix troons really do sound like cheap marketers.
>buy a $30 ssd 240gb
>install linux
>swap between windows/linux whenever
>figure out what works, alternatives etc
problem solved
I'm actually looking at ZorinOS right now. It looks good with the ability to make the desktop even look like Windows. It also seems to have ways to be compatible with Steam and most games even. However, it doesn't seem be work with Foobar2000 and I really NEED that program on my computer.
>foobar2000
Any specific reason? You can run it through wine if you really need, but music players are dime a dozen on linux.
>swap between windows/linux whenever
How does this work exactly. Do you get an option when booting up the PC as to which OS you want to it launch during boot?
how are we in 2024 when people on this site have no idea what dual-booting is
it's so fricking over
Fine, forget I even asked.
Yeah
>Do you get an option when booting up the PC
yes.
it's better to have a separate imo because of boot partitions. as a matter of convenience. google can help you out but once you figure out the basics it's really fricking simple
i recently found out about atlasOS, somehow modded windows. idk if i'd ever try unless 11 is really bad, mite be looking into if linux is too much. hopefully 11 ltsc doesn't suck ass when it finally comes out.
don't be a Black person, tech illiteracy is only going to get worse. might as well be nice to those trying to climb out of it.
No realistically Steam users who refuse to move on from 10 probably have well over 10 years if fricking Windows 7 is anything to go by.
I'm still using Windows 7
>two (2) years
EOL is october next year so 1.5 years.
Look at all these Windows 10 baby ducks. Just upgrade to the new version already. Quack quack!
If I am ever forced to update to Windows 11, I think that might be what makes me install and learn Linux
Windows 7 still works on steam. Isn't it time to shit in the streets, pajeet?
>rendering in Blender
>system still snappy, responsive, and useful
Windows 11 seems fine here.
>blender
>windows 11
>laughingprostitutes.jpg
I will literally never downgrade from 7.
I already use Linux and windows 11. I'll be fine.
>Uses windows 11
>doesn't use Windows 11
windows 10 is mid af only cringe incels still use windows 10
us stacie's all use windows 11 now because its so based and full of SOVL it literally mogs everything like a bbc
sisters vibin with 11 and incel cucks coping and seething with 10
if you dont want us to laugh at you then upgrade to the windows 11 experience rn because it legit fricks and has that big dick energy
Do not ever upgrade to Windows 11. This is the worst fricking operating system I've ever seen. There are so many issues with it from top to bottom that will just brick your PC because Microsoft forces updates on you, even if they frick up other processes. Frick Windows 11
Imagine being too dumb to use Windows.
>quality updates
how about taking me back to a better version of windows, that'd be a quality update
Good old Windows Vista. People give it a bad press, but I'm never upgrading - why would I? It just feels like a good old pair of jeans.
I got a new laptop and it came preinstalled with Windows 11. After setting it up without linking a microsoft account, it occasionally tries to trick/force me into linking one. This always online bullshit is annoying
You can hack a new install with it removed, but otherwise, it REALLY wants you to. I use one because it allows me to use Windows Hello, which speeds up login (and also thwarts keyloggers for Windows itself).
>always online bullshit is annoying
>but when Steam does it, it's fine
???
hmm ackshually I have until 2032
For the past few years, I've only used Windows for VR and Genshin. Almost everything else I can do/play on my Lunix desktop and Deck.
>Genshin
Zoom zoom.
I wish.
Literally no reason to be using 10 at this point. Yah 11 has that dumb requirement bs, but anyone with half a brain cell can bypass it. Other than that, 11 performs better than 10.
Steam should support the same operating systems as the games it's selling. How is it even legal to have access to your purchases arbitrarily restricted?
>frick you, we need a cpu from at least three years ago to update
>nooooo you can’t run it on anything older than that because…well you just can’t!
lol, lmao
>TPM 2.0 has been standard on motherboards since 2016
>2024-2016=8
>Can't be bothered to upgrade in 8 years
Seriously?
> Install SteamOS.
Problem, officer?
Good morning xirs!
JAPANU IZU ZA BESUTSU INU ZA HO WARUDO. AI RAIKI WINUDOSU NAO
>I HATE WINDOWS
Anything else, superpoowerOS by 2030 enjoyer?
Windows is the only desktop OS. I'm just imagining all the weeb linux fatties who might change their tune knowing it's popular in the land of subway groping.
They couldn't "tinker" with their OS, just like they "tinker" with their genitals if they used Windows.
>it's popular in the land of subway groping.
I think that troonix is perfect for them then.
I will switch to 11 once it becomes somewhat usable and doesn't have a shit stuffed into every feature.
It took Win 10 over 4 years to become usable as well, so I expect roughly the same time here for it to become less shit.
I'd use 10 if it didn't have things I vaguely complain about. If it would stop doing that stuff and those things, it'd be great.
??
Also
>/pol/
>date order
I knew you guys were poor browns.
i could buy better PC but then I would need install win10 or win11
I applaud you for keeping with 7. I switched to 10 at the end of 2020.
see no reason to switch honestly, have dual boot win10 for some win10 games but like 99,997% I am on win7
What's happened? I was using steam on win 7 like 3 weeks ago (moved to new hardware and the pain of some games requiring 10 or running them on 7, which would be unstable with the provided work arounds) was getting annoying. Like MOST stuff I played worked, it seemed to be MS related things that wouldn't run.
I hate 10 so much. Took a week to finally lock down this LTSC. Only problem is every time I've wanted to install something (like lang packs, or some other .net package I have to spend an hour allowing update+services, installing shit, then murdering all the services/registry/elevated user privs to stop the update orch again). Eventually I hope I'll get to the point I don't need to do that, but I'm paranoid that I'll forget something one time and I'll be met with the ever wonderful 'you're updating right now, I don't care what you're doing' bullshit. Frick off miscroshit.
The moment steam kills windows 10 support I'll just change to Linux, simple as
LTSC IoT is until 2029
I'll never understand why people don't upgrade. My brother is still on 7.
11 is better in every way. You don't even have to pay for it. Just pirate it, load O&OShutUp to kill all the privacy issues (update when necessary), have full backup harddrive ready, and boom you're done.
And this is coming from someone who used to loathe Windows like you wouldn't believe. So much so, I bought a early '08 Mac Pro on a retail paycheck (finally sold it a several years ago). I decided to give Windows just one more try and 10/11 worked just fine. I did have one issue where I had to do a re-install. But I had a backup, so I was done in an hour or so.
You guys are making a bigger deal out of upgrading than it needs to be. It's free. It works great. And it's what we got until Linux stops being fricking stupid and launches an actual competition gaming OS. And no, there's nothing even close on the market (need HDR, easy to install and backup, and complete oculus 2 connectivity).
Cry about it pajeet
What does 11 let me do that 7 can't do? Nothing. Windows has not added anything since 8.1 that actually improves the experience, stability nor provides something that is an actual improvement to quality of life.
What does 11 no longer allow me to do that 7 allowed me to do? A lot.
It is absolutely moronic that I need to bother with a bunch of third party programs and registry/policy editing to do things that the older version of the OS actually has options for. Even something as fricking simple as changing the desktop/system font is no longer an option in 11. It USED TO BE and then they patched it out.
>What does 11 let me do that 7 can't do?
AI
it has AI
AI
AIIIIIII
Steam will require AIIII
We got AI at home.
Poorgay arguments and MS Store concerns. Who uses the MS Store?
>I'll never understand why people don't upgrade. My brother is still on 7.
Show me the setting in Windows 11 that gives me a vertical taskbar. It's ridiculous that 11 has stripped out basic features like that have been in Windows since fricking XP.
Show me a heterosexual with a vertical taskbar.
Not an argument.
It's THE argument. If you want to suck wiener, linux will let you have a circular taskbar that teleports around the screen to the beat of "It's Raining Men."
>just upgreate
>what are you poor?
>just buy the Windows 12 subscription
>just upgreate to the mentally ill OS instead, where you have to upgreate even more often
>Valve is innocent, they just built their shitty DRM garbage client using Google Chrome garbage
>it's it's Google
>Google added loot boxes and battle passes!!!
>but what about steam sir