Are you referring to the "read-only" pieces of plastic that you can only use on a DRM-certifying machine? If this is what you mean by "physical games", try reading their license which is what you can and cannot do with what you "own".
The problem isn't the way the game is distributed, it is DRM, which you as a console user and "owner" of physical games are the biggest supporter of.
It's well established that a EULA is not a legally binding agreement. Violating it breaks a contract that binds the company to give you an extremely limited amount of service surrounding the game, such as accepting a support ticket from you when you log on to their website to say you get an error code when you try to play matchmaking (something they don't verify EULA integrity for anyway).
The point is, with a physical game, you paid for a product, and a product is something that you keep whatever state its in. Even if it's "read only," if you can figure out a way to make it NOT read only that's your prerogative to with what you please. With a game service client like steam, you have no such guarantees.
>Even if it's "read only," if you can figure out a way to make it NOT read only that's your prerogative to with what you please
debatable
for instance, in japan modifying consoles to be able to run backups is illegal and penally prosecuted
it's a legal grey area where people do things out of habit because what's legal and what isn't hasn't really been clearly defined
Ubisoft is shutting down the servers for a select number of older games of theirs. Whether or not you purchased said games physically or digitally has zero effect on the fact that they are no longer playable for you, because both physical and digital versions require you to connect to the no longer available servers as part of their DRM. Why is this so difficult to understand for some people? Your physical copy of AC: Liberation doesn't have the capability to be installed and played on a console without internet connection. It's like trying to play Diablo 3 without a battle.net account and offline, it doesn't matter whether or not you have a physical copy of the fricking game.
Legally speaking, they're still only licenses and the companies actually owning the games have any right to revoke them whenever they want for whatever reason. At that point, playing your physical games is the same as committing piracy, which is also what you can do to play any of those steam games.
>Man in sent to jail for killing a company exec that claimed he was "just trying to keep my games from being stolen"
You do realize gamers aren't respected, right? The world kinda hates your kind on sight. If anything you'd likely get the death chair for it too if you tried to fight back.
Not him, but the main thing this specifically will cause is increased amounts of pirating of Ubisoft games which may lead to Ubisoft focusing more on consoles again. That's not good, no; but I can't see it leading to much worse than that unless you're actually dumb enough to actually buy Ubisoft games on PC from this point forward.
>illegal
What are they going to do? Send me a letter? No ISP ever follows up on a suit, let alone an arrest. And even if they did, I can prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that I own a license for the game - ergo, I can torrent it without worry as long as I dont redistribute.
At one point nearly a decade ago, I got blocked from buying/trading/playing multiplayer on steam because apparently I used a stolen credit card to buy Far Cry 3 or something? (I already owned this game). I went to Reddit to complain and they called me lol hacker scammer. I complained to Steam support until they finally reverted the change and apologised, citing a mistake on their part. Don't give Steam a fricking cent.
>I worked with Steam and they corrected their mistake >FRICKING STEAM
they're not omniscient, idiot. I could see complaining if you got stuck permanently. but you're just being illogical here over feefees.
I lost 20k out of my savings because someone working for my bank punched in the wrong number in one of the digits for account numbers on some business transaction 4 years ago
They fixed it in like 4 days
big whoop
Your bank is absolute SHIT if they allow tellers to make unchecked business transactions that withdraw from consumer accounts. There should be a strict boundary in place there as part of standard operating procedures.
>sub to water delivery in march >receive 2 bills >sub amounts overlay each others so it's no clear if I'm paying twice or if the documents lacks informations >call the company >dude tells me it's normal, but I don't buy it >call days later >w*man find the mistake and puts up a refund
It's about finding the good links in the system and being a good link yourself so the system can continue to serve us instead of making us miserable
>I complained to Steam support until they finally reverted the change and apologised, citing a mistake on their part. Don't give Steam a fricking cent. >reverted the change and apologised
lol why are you still mad about this a decade later when they fixed it?
I've been having issues with steam for my Steam Deck order.
I needed to change an address and let steam know like 5x and each time they said they let the delivery service know, but according to the delivery service steam never reached out to them once.
My only option was to have my deck sent back so it wasn't delivered to an address that doesn't exist.
its already removed from sale
in september you wont be able to download it anymore
https://store.steampowered.com/app/260210/Assassins_Creed_Liberation_HD/
>in september you wont be able to download it anymore
Even if you install it before that date, you still won't be able to play it anymore.
Its DRM requires server-side authentication each launch, and the servers will be down at that point.
This is exactly it. Steam could allow you to download the files they have on the steam server if you've already bought it, but you still wouldn't be able to play the game because it requires Uplay and Ubisoft are removing it from their servers.
It's exactly the same as Tera shutting down their servers, because even if you bought it on steam you can no longer play it.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/212740/TERA__Action_MMORPG/
Except that's an MMO and this is a single player game.
>https://www.ign.com/articles/ubisoft-to-shut-down-multiplayer-and-online-services-for-15-games-in-september-2022 >https://www.ign.com/articles/ubisoft-removing-access-assassins-creed-liberation-hd >As stated in our support article, only DLCs and online features will be affected by the upcoming decommissioning. Current owners of those games will still be able to access, play or redownload them. Our teams are working with our partners to update this information across all storefronts and are also assessing all available options for players who will be impacted when these games’ online services are decommissioned on September 1st, 2022. It has always been our intention to do everything in our power to allow those legacy titles to remain available in the best possible conditions for players, and this is what we are working towards.
What this means is that anything that requires phoning home to the Ubisoft servers won't work which includes single player DLC across all platforms, not just Steam. You could have it all on a physical disk and it still won't work without a crack come September.
It's steams fault if they allow it to continue to happen instead of protecting their customers from bullshit refund the games and blacklist ubisoft, whats so difficult about that? not going to even hurt ubisoft because their homosexual games install their shitty gay homosexual assfrick launcher anyways
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/retire_app >Before reaching out, take a moment to carefully consider whether or not pulling your game down is actually the right choice. Are you acting based on an emotional response to negative feedback, or is retiring your game the appropriate next step? We take our relationship with customers seriously, so if you choose to cancel development of a game and retire it from the store, we will not republish it again later and we may offer refunds to any users who purchased it.
It's "may" because it's subject to applicable law and the consumers affected actually speaking up and addressing the problem to Steam.
Basically: it's "may" because you may be stuck in the anti-consumer shit-hole called the USA which trains consumers to "shut up and CONSOOM," rather than the EU which has legislation that tells traders they can stuff their EULAs where the sun don't shine.
Can this be explained to me? I thought Steam worked in such a way that the developer/publisher deliberately had to pull the data from Steam's servers in order to make the game inaccessible.
What could possibly be the reason for Ubisoft to do this? From where I am sitting it only looks like terrible PR
>Can this be explained to me?
Ubisoft's shitty game has DRM on it that Ubisoft doesn't want to keep online anymore. The game cannot be run without the DRM. Since Ubisoft wants to save money by shutting down the DRM they have to also shut down the game since it's an always online game that doesn't function without the DRM.
They need to locate the source code and the team that made the game might exist no more. Being able to compile the game again could be not that simple and that takes time and money.
But for Ubishit it seems that it's better destroying what's left of your reputation instead of wasting a few days of work.
>game is always online >be warned that servers may shut down one day >buy it anyway >serves shut down >HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!
The future you have chosen
Looks like nobody learned from Darkspore and countless dead mmos. Yeah goyim keep buying Always Online DRM games you will love it when we take your toys.
I literally can play the game and nothing the company can do will stop me. What are you talking about? If you are referring to it being cracked on PC, then no shit, but I am talking about the officials means.
The person claimed it applied to all platforms, so the post you responded to was correcting that erroneous claim. You seemingly were not looking at the comment via that lens.
Also that comment was correct that DRM is included in a lot of PC single-player games while the console versions don't, but that isn't really the point, and it is true the DRM can eventually be removed from the PC version.
2 years ago
Anonymous
My comment was made regarding the claim that consoles don't have DRM. My understanding is that consoles (8th gen and onward) have as much DRM as PCs. Therefore, the only reason people will still be able to play this ubishit game on their chosen console is that ubishit isn't turning off the service on that platform.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>My understanding is that consoles (8th gen and onward) have as much DRM as PCs.
Xbox might, since a lot of the time, the game isn't actually on the disc and the digital versions might have it. PlayStation and Switch however are actually on the disc/cart and do not have DRM. You can play the games even if you didn't have internet access for years.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I would have figured that the PS4/5 would be in the same league as Xbox One/Series. Switch, I can believe.
Even so, any console that can phone home is a risk in that an update could be pushed to disable access to certain games (maybe I'm being overly paranoid)
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I would have figured that the PS4/5 would be in the same league as Xbox One/Series.
I think the difference is a result of what Xbox has done in order to have seamless backwards compatibility. That's my understanding anyways. But in any case, I know for a fact that both Playstation and Switch do not have DRM. >Even so, any console that can phone home is a risk in that an update could be pushed to disable access to certain games (maybe I'm being overly paranoid)
Yes, that is possible on all consoles for digital versions of the games when you have an internet connection. You see it happen sometimes when something goes wrong and a preload game or whatever somehow is accessible too early, and later the game license gets revoked. But since there is no actual DRM, you could avoid that if you were to stay off of the internet, and in the case of physical versions, you always are able to just put the disc/cart in and play the game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Damn, I have reasons to hate snoy, but I suppose locking people out of their physical games isn't one of them. I concede the point.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I know for a fact that both Playstation and Switch do not have DRM.
I don't think you know what DRM is.
What do you think happens if you try to run a pirated game on Switch or PS5? Or an amateur game that doesn't have permission from Sony or Nintendo?
Spoiler alert: you won't be able to unless your device is hacked.
You simply cannot access illegal digital content on consoles, the hardware itself serves to enforce copyright.
It's well established that a EULA is not a legally binding agreement. Violating it breaks a contract that binds the company to give you an extremely limited amount of service surrounding the game, such as accepting a support ticket from you when you log on to their website to say you get an error code when you try to play matchmaking (something they don't verify EULA integrity for anyway).
The point is, with a physical game, you paid for a product, and a product is something that you keep whatever state its in. Even if it's "read only," if you can figure out a way to make it NOT read only that's your prerogative to with what you please. With a game service client like steam, you have no such guarantees.
>The point is, with a physical game, you paid for a product, and a product is something that you keep whatever state its in.
The same with digital.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I don't think you know what DRM is.
You are misunderstanding my point. Yes, there is DRM in some form. But my point is that in the form people are concerned about the most - that is, can the company stop me from playing my legal purchased game, at least if it is a physical version - Playstation and Switch do not have that.
You are right about pirated content, and yes, that is a form of DRM certainly, but that isn't the subject here. What I was saying is that what is happening to ACL cannot happen on most consoles it is on (at least not the physical versions)
2 years ago
Anonymous
The point is that having the game in physical form doesn't guarantee you anything, in fact Nintendo and Sony may decide to prevent your access to them right now as long as you keep your console updated, which they don't do because of business decision and probably because of laws. I have a Nintendo Switch and the digital games work exactly like the physical ones, once I download them legally, I have infinite access to them even with the console offline, even if I don't keep the console and games up to date.
There's only one real advantage of physical games, you can legally resell them to another player, which is impossible with digital games for now. Other than that, you are in the hands of corporations in the same way as people who consume digital games, in fact it is even worse, because digital games are easier to backup and crack.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The point is that having the game in physical form doesn't guarantee you anything
But you just in a following sentence ("I have a Nintendo Switch and the digital games work exactly like the physical ones, once I download them legally, I have infinite access to them even with the console offline, even if I don't keep the console and games up to date.") explain exactly what guarantee you do get. If I have a physical copy of a Switch game, there is absolutely nothing Nintendo can do to permanently block me from playing it. Are you trying to say they could stop me from playing them physical game that I have? Even if I play offline? They cannot. That is what I am saying With those physical versions (at least of the current console generation), you can NEVER get into the scenario that is threatening the Steam version of the Assassins Creed game (although again, you can crack the game and the problem goes away from the Steam version).
False. Bayonetta collection, Megaman and megamanX collections have only 1st half on-cart, and you download 2nd half. Heaven forbid they print two carts or make bigger cart sizes!!!
Those are not actually totally physical versions and are thus irrelevant to what I talking about. I am talking about games (the majority of games) where everything is on the disc and playable.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Just to clarify, when I say "everything', I mean all the content for the game to be in a complete state. Obviously there will be patches that fix or add things. I am excluding games that need a day one patch to even be playable.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Are you trying to say they could stop me from playing them physical game that I have? Even if I play offline? They cannot.
NTA, but yes they can, look at XBOX, the vast majority of physical games, even ones that have the entire game on disc, will install but refuse to launch if your console is offline or not logged into your microsoft account. >inb4 it's not sony or nintendo
my point is they, console companies in general, can indeed stop you from playing even your legally owned physical copies if they so desire
2 years ago
Anonymous
Xbox I have acknowledged that such is the case, but for Nintendo and Sony, you at least have the obvious workaround of playing offline, which is an extremely straight forward workaround.
2 years ago
Anonymous
yes, but unless you always play offline as a habit, your console will eventually need an update, or even one of the games you want to play might need the latest update, and nothing stops nintendo and sony from implementing the same measures in such update the same way xbox did
basically, replying directly to what you said so far, sony and nintendo don't stop you from playing physical games offline, but can they stop you if they want? Yes, they absolutely can
2 years ago
Anonymous
I suppose in the sense that Sony/Nintendo could patch the system software so that it won't play any games without validation check, okay, I acknowledge it is within the realm of possibility. It at least isn't the case right now for those two consoles.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>If I have a physical copy of a Switch game, there is absolutely nothing Nintendo can do to permanently block me from playing it.
There's nothing about the physical media itself preventing Nintendo from doing that, it's just their business decision.
They could in the next firmware force all players to log on to the internet once a week, even those who use physical media, but they don't do that because it's obviously bad business (Microsoft tried to do that though, I don't know how it works currently).
They don't force you to log in for digital games either (if you're on your primary Switch), except to download for obvious reasons. At this point, it is "better" than Steam which needs to verify your account every now and then, but only because the PC is open while the Switch is closed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There's nothing about the physical media itself preventing Nintendo from doing that, it's just their business decision.
You are correct and I have acknowledged that in
I suppose in the sense that Sony/Nintendo could patch the system software so that it won't play any games without validation check, okay, I acknowledge it is within the realm of possibility. It at least isn't the case right now for those two consoles.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But even if you go that far, they can't force you to install it. You might be unlucky and install it without knowing about that check, but if you know about what the update does, you can simply choose not to do it. You might not be able to play online anymore, but at least you can still play physical games up to that date.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The point is, with a physical game, you paid for a product, and a product is something that you keep whatever state its in. >The same with digital.
I mean, that's true, but the company that sold it to you can just arbitrarily say 'okay, you're done playing now'. They can't send their men to your house to take back the disk you paid for, that will work as long as you have a console that plays it and as long as the disk works. Your access to the game is limited by the medium it is stored on, rather than whether or not the publisher decides to keep their DRM 'service' running.
To make a more accurate comparison it's like selling someone a car, only the seller can remotely and permanently lock all of its doors and windows, preventing you from getting in. No one in their right mind would support something like that, but that's exactly the precedent Ubisoft is setting.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No one in their right mind would support something like that
Ever looked at the specs for a Tesla, anon?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You mean the company with a soon to be monopoly on car manufacturing after everyone's vehicles die because Biden forced gas companies to include more ethanol?
Good times ahead.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Don't remind me about the current state of ICE vs EMVs - I fricking can't stand the holier-than-thou smugness of people that actually believe highly poisonous limited lifetime lithium batteries recharged from a power grid predominantly relying on a backbone of burning coal during peak use, is somehow the god-given answer to the climate problem. Bunch of fricking virtue-flagging auto-fellating eco-homosexuals.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There is no climate problem. Never was. Just another case of stupid people being used to drive a unrelated agenda.
2 years ago
Anonymous
When the PS4's CMOS battery dies, if replaced, the console will require Sony's servers to still exist in order to enable the use of discs once again. When those servers go down, every single console is destined to become a brick.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not anymore. It has been fixed since the controversy.
False. Bayonetta collection, Megaman and megamanX collections have only 1st half on-cart, and you download 2nd half. Heaven forbid they print two carts or make bigger cart sizes!!!
2 years ago
Anonymous
I dont know why the frick they do that shit, but the resident evil origins collection is the most egregious one >physical copy of fricking Resident Evil 0 >digital download for REmake
Absolutely fricking disgusting
What big racing game was it that recently had a server outage? Because it stopped you from playing the game AT ALL, including single player.
Also isn't denuvo an always-online DRM? Those games can't be played alone without internet.
>Also isn't denuvo an always-online DRM? Those games can't be played alone without internet.
Denuvo has a few different operating modes.
iirc one where it requires a consistent connection with a rolling key that is good for a few minutes only.
another where it authenticates only on launch and has a session key that remains good while the game keeps runnign.
and one where it stores a longer term key on disk for re-use offline, but which expires after a set time window - where you're required to reauthenticate.
Making a simple search for a repeated phrase through recent archives is "schizo" now? You were found out and you look like an obsessed bootlicking moron, deal with it.
>repeated phrase
it's not searching for a phrase. just people saying vegan and pirate on the same sentence. it found less than 200 times people said that and that's not even a copypasta
>Even if you already bought it
How can they do that if you already have it downloaded?
Also why don't we have class action law suits to rape the frick out of the executives that make these decisions??
And? You pussies won't do anything about it, as usual.
2 years ago
Anonymous
at least it's illegal here while you have no rights LOL
2 years ago
Anonymous
>europe better because we pretend to be better
Eurotards
2 years ago
Anonymous
Are you expecting this situation to get overturned in Europe? There is no loophole or something that Ubisoft is aware off that made them think this decision would fly?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You'd think they consider European law as a European company, but who knows honestly. EA thought they could push their lootboxes through European law too until their gave up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You can refund games right now because of the EU moron
2 years ago
Anonymous
Wrong, you can refund games because Gabe needed to apologise for paid mods, it has nothing to do with yuropoors.
Can't. Not until there are actual damages, come September.
Also; in the EU it's not Ubisoft that's liable. It's Steam, since EU legislation holds the TRADER liable for failure to supply and non-conformance in general - which is what this is.
Basically; once we hit September and the games and DLC content become inaccessible, there will be failure to supply.
This means EU consumers can contact Steam Support and ask them to fix their failure to supply / non-conformance issue.
Steam will reply they can't.
The consumer at that point is entitled to terminate the contract and be due a full refund from the trader, i.e. Steam.
The trader, i.e. Steam, can at that point use their right of redress to claim those refunds as damages with their supplier, i.e. Ubisoft.
>even console CDs, so Ubishit is still liable.
The retailer is the liable party in the EU, when you've purchased physical.
If you were DUMB enough to purchase physical and STILL hold the false belief that that somehow gives you any form of advantage over digital, other than a nice (but otherwise completely fricking worthless) box to put on display and look at -- then I hope you've kept your receipt...
>in the EU it's not Ubisoft that's liable. It's Steam, since EU legislation holds the TRADER liable for failure to supply and non-conformance in general - which is what this is.
Thats fricking moronic, it's Ubisoft doing this shit, how the frick is the middleman at fault?
Because the EU makes the trader the single point of contact for the consumer and being the professional party to the contract of sale, deems them responsible to sort that shit out on THEIR time rather than YOU being forced to do it on YOURS.
Note that the same set of legislation gives the trader a so-called right of redress vis-a-vis their suppliers, that is: gives them legal recourse to sue the supplier for damages equal to what they had to spend to fix the supplier's shit breaking.
That's not failure to supply, the game has been supplied, the license has been supplied. That's the failure of the product to perform as advertised and that's the fault of the producer/manufacturer, not the middleman.
>That's not failure to supply
The correct answer is: it depends on the specifics. Which is why I also mentioned non-conformance in general.
If the title actually becomes completely unavailable for download and installation, then that is failure to supply. Because as per the 2019/770 directive, the EU codifies 'supply' as being provided the means to access (for online content) or download and install (for local content) your purchase.
If it becomes unplayable because the DRM doesn't pass the license check and immediately closes, then that's a bit ambiguous if it's failure to supply - given you COULD interpret 'access' as actually completely starting the game and being able to consume it. But even without, it certainly falls foul of conformance.
But note that in either case, the EU holds the trader liable and not their suppliers.
Caveat venditor - trader beware, i.e. know what you are selling because you are liable for it.
this is due to the game having an online DRM, not being bootable offline. Which is moronic for a single player game. But Ubisoft didn't bothered not removing it
I don't own a single one of these that haven't been given out for free at some point. It's sad that it happens even for online only games, but paying for something and then having it taken from you isn't entirely unavoidable
so you get to keep drm free games on steam? same is true for any platform if you put it somewhere. there are also games that have been sold on steam you can't currently play.
and yes it's ubisofts fault, but what does that matter?
Doesn't matter which storefront you bought it from, all PCúcks get fricked like they all deserve.
Meanwhile, my physical copy on PS3 will continue work just fine.
Because no one is buying it anymore and it has the same style of DRM as ass creed 2 in that it has to constantly phone home or else it kicks you off. No server means no game, and the DRM is so hilariously invasive that it would probably cost them more to remove it than it would make in future sales.
When you "buy" something on steam or any of these platforms you're only really getting the keys to updates and multiplayer, YOU OWN NOTHING AND YOU VILL LIKE IT.
So basically piracy wins again.
Pay for a VPN instead, frick these companies and never let some butthole guilt trip you with cost for overhead on the developers end.
It isn't the end users problem, it never was.
Although I agree to an extent, steam shouldn’t even have the ability to allow it in the first place. Something like this would require some government intervention but you know how much Ganker hates communism
>steam shouldn’t even have the ability to allow it in the first place
it's literally nothing steam/valve can do anything about, ubisoft games require you to use ubisoft launchers and/or in-game ubisoft log in, if ubisoft decides to stop providing network access from a game, valve is powerless to stop them
and im pretty sure all of this is in their partnership contract, as well as the TOS players carefully check "i read and accept" when they start the game
>pc bros will keep getting fricked by these drm inducing shit companies so long as they buy from them
i buy from them, and backup my games with cracks and steam emus
it takes just one brain cell to not get fricked by them
This isn't a problem because there are no good Ubisoft games anyway.
You should value your hard drive more than to even pirate that garbage.
The only other companies that would do this are also shit like EA and Activision. So just please play better games if this is a problem.
It literally wouldn't matter if steam still offered the game, or if you had a local file on disk. The game has built in DRM the servers that UBISOFT HOSTS THEMSELVES to validate drm requests are going offline. The game would be unplayable, which is why steam is removing it.
Plenty of games are removed from sale that users can keep in their library, like Dark Souls Prepare to Die; which can work since there is no DRM to validate access to the game.
Ubisoft has never liked PC, more than 10 years ago they would deliberately delay PC releases and make sure the ports was shit, blame low sales on them all being pirates. Even now today, they make new content for the new games but only consoles get this content but PC does not. This will not be the first or last time Ubishit decides to frick over PC
You people realize less games than ever actually have DRM? Steam doesnt even work in the same way something like a music streaming service where the downloads are sneakily hidden or encrypted so you cant transfer to another device, the tools to make Steam drm free are also completely available to anyone and Valve has never done anything against it. If you are not a moron you could "own" more games than you actually will ever play compared to a few generations ago or even today with how Xbox games can only be played in a Xbox device despite MS dropping out of console exclusives.
how is this even allowed?
they should literally be RAPED TO DEATH IN COURT, having to file for bankruptcy, thrown in prison and fricked by a pack of Black folk in prison until they hang themselves Epstein style.
Why do people even buy ubishit games? There are games that differ more after few patch cycles than how Assassin's Creed 1 is different from Odyssey. Do they have a specific way to market it to gullible plebs?
It seems to me that you'll still "own" the game's license but you won't be able to play it anymore because as soon as you boot the game it will fail to login to the Ubisoft servers.
>IMAGINE buying any nUbishit game that isn't Anno lmao
Anno 2070 is also going bye-bye: >Notice: Please note this title will not be accessible following September 1st, 2022
Check for yourself:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/48240/Anno_2070/
It's probably because Anno 2070 uses the always-online Solid Shield DRM from Tages.
>God please someone save the Anno devs from that god forsaken company
You may get that wish. Rumors through the grape vine have it that Ubisoft has been positioning itself to prominent industry members within the market as ready, able and willing to be taken over.
>IMAGINE buying any nUbishit game that isn't Anno lmao
Anno 2070 is also going bye-bye: >Notice: Please note this title will not be accessible following September 1st, 2022
Check for yourself:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/48240/Anno_2070/
It's probably because Anno 2070 uses the always-online Solid Shield DRM from Tages.
apparently the Anno 2070 devs are trying to make it that you wont need the always online to play , if they can fricking do it Assassin creed , Far cry and Splinter cell ones can
Steam and other stores should be required to put a warning on the store page for always online games like this. And I don't mean some small info box about a third party client or denuvo drm - I mean a big fat box that clearly states in simple words that the user might loose access to the game in the future if the publisher decides to shut down the servers. God that would be glorious. I would want to see the face of the ubishit marketing subhumans when all their games have to have a big "smoking can kill you" warning sings.
The EU already literally requires that for distance sales consumers are informed up front of the conditions that could lead to the termination of a contract of indeterminate time. Duration of contract and terms for termination are part of the formal information requirements for distance sales. As these are legal requirements the trader must adher to, the consumer is reasonably allowed to assume that for any game-software where the trader does NOT inform them of this fact up front - the standard practice of 'will work forever, but maybe the multiplayer will go down at some point' applies.
A case where the DRM servers are taken offline and the game or its bought DLC is made inaccessible, constitutes non-conformance / failure to supply - unless the trader explicitly (note: cannot be done via general terms and conditions or EULA and burden of proof that it WAS done is on the trader!) informs the consumer up front that they or their supplier reserve themselves the right to at any point in time at their sole discretion pull the plug.
refunded 3 ubisoft games I bought on summer sale. Asked them to refund ALL ubisoft games if they don't I guess I just wont buy any games from steam anymore as it sets a precendant for other devs to do the same thing >spend thousands on gaming library >devs decide they don't want you to play anymore so they just remove the game
Yeah frick you I'm going to start pirating games.
>thats a nice single player game you got there , would be a shame if we made you unable to play it cause it need our servers to launch
you cannot tell me that they cannot just code easily a "does it need only indentification to launch game and dlc ? no" into it
Depending on how the DLC actually works; no, they can't. It may actually store a partially encrypted executable and encrypted content files on disk, that are decrypted via a key you get back from the authentication challenge.
Make that key and the encryption scheme dependent on the system's unique hardware configuration.
And add the ability to run the game's executable partially in a virtual machine where the op-codes are part of the encryption scheme itself, so the executable is never available in its fully decrypted state, and you basically have Denuvo.
(cont.)
Well, except Denuvo has an optional (!) offline mode where it can somehow store locally a temporary key that is good for X amount of time before its window expires and it must reauthenticate.
I especially like how anyone can post anything and people just believe it. I mean, why not? Even with horrific typos like "hospitals nationwide murderer people", you'd think someone would proof read a simple image macro, but no. It gives it added credibility when the people making it don't even speak English
Valve is also better at managing an online DRM than EA is. Also AC is their game running on their servers. That's not the case with 99% of steam games.
The actual fun thing here is that with the way contracts are formulated, were Steam to actually issue refunds to EU consumers they might very well get away with demanding the full refund in damages from Ubisoft under the right of redress. Effectively allowing them to double-dip and turn a literal profit off of the refund, because it leaves their initial 30% cut they took at sale, untouched.
>obviously ubisofts fault with their shit drm servers being taken out back >still rampent anti-steam shit posting
This is either Epic-funded slander or people are really this committed to trolling whatever defense force they can. Probably a combination of both.
>A Ubisoft Decision >A Ubisoft Decision that has to do with Uplay >Steam is mearly the middle man >Somehow Steam gets blaimed >Despite the fact that steam still %100 lets you keep, redownload, and play games that you've bought but are taken off of their storefront
As someone who has three games that stopped being sold on steam, I can still download and play them with steam. They removed it from purchase but I've never seen them restrict me from playing games I've bought in the past. It sounds like you read a news article and then made your own assumptions about it while not asking any more questions or experiencing it yourself.
It did technically happen once before, but only for a weekend, and the developer claims (and it seems true) that it was just a bug, where something got renamed in the steam depot and caused the game to "update" itself to a blank folder, and it was fixed immediately after.
>state fact >israeli DICK is the first thought on your mind
I'm not even saying I like steam, you moronic Black person. I bet you're one of Epic's shills given you want to push the blame onto Steam for something decided by Ubisoft.
I don't use Steam and I spit on digital shit. I'm more worthy than you can ever hope to be.
2 years ago
Anonymous
In other words you know nothing of this situation and jumped into the thread to be angry at a launcher you dont even use. Great.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Slurp it all up, goy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Stop being moronic and jumping to get angry at things you dont even have a grasp at. I swear, it's like I'm talking to an actual child now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anyone defending Valve in this day and age is a complete moron and doesn't deserve a lick of respect.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I don't use Steam and I spit on digital shit
You do realize modern day physical games aren't any better for the most part right? The moment online updates became the norm is the day physical games died. Granted it hasn't infected every game, but it still effects many of them now as most companies go "well we can just push an update to fix it later" all the way to "we can just make them download the rest of the actual game" without thinking about what would happen if someone didn't have the ability to download those updates.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Can anyone translate this autistic babble? All I heard was that digital and physical are somehow in the same boat because physical has patches.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He isn't wrong though. Even if the game comes on a disc, there will be online checks before you can even install it. Your piece of plastic means nothing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
On what console? None of my PS4 games do this.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yet.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Maybe once you stop thinking about wiener all day you'd be able to understand.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not just patches now, some of these games are so big they are just a code so you can download them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
> waaah mommy poo poo he says something me no like
Frick. Right. Off.
You're fully justified in pirating any game you've already paid for in the past and have been denied access to. I don't even consider it stealing, just reclaiming possession of your property.
>he thinks the disc's he has are more than a CD-key
lol, lmao even, seriously though, i couldn't handle consoles because i would get a game and have to download day one patches or the entire game through the internet or it wouldn't let me play
>people blaming steam when it applies to literally everything else and is solely a ubisoft problem
You Black folk are real quick to become rabid towards steam
Its likely the resident Epic shills. The love pinning the blame on Steam for every single thing, even if its quite literally not Valve's fault for something.
There are a million other things they could use to actually bring up why Steam is bad, but they always choose shit that's not even their fault.
fricking offline mode, why the frick does it not work like intended? every time i've tried to use my games while offline it says frick off or something or it tells me to retry later instead of letting me go into offline mode
Guaranteed this is a moronic panic and nothing else. It's exactly the same as when people sperged out Fifa only allowed a few game installations and it turned out to be dumb bullshit.
Basically when you boot it up, it calls the server to make sure it's allowed to run. They're taking away the server, so the program doesn't get an ok, so it doesn't run.
You don't 'make' a precedent you set one, holy frick this bothers me so much. Game '''''''journos'''''' once again ousting themselves as drooling neanderthals.
They're programmed to just say 'epic' just like they have to mention the switch when talking about the deck.
They can never look at steam or valve as an independent company it always has to be someone else's fault
Fricking what the frick are you talking about? People have been saying constantly that its Ubisofts fault and Epic Black folk have been trying desperately to pin this as a steam issue.
Yeah no shit.
People got so so accustomed to steam being the defacto store on PC when they forgot publishers DONT HAVE TO USE STEAM and can remove the game.
Its Valve's Netflix moment. Now hopefully these morons will start pirating shit instead of dumping thousands of dollars on renting titles.
>install the no-cd crack
Can play with all friends regardless if they purchased it from best buy, cicrut city or compusa.
Valve really did frick PC gaming didn't they?
>Ubisoft does something scummy >BUT MUH STOREFRONT
You can still play the base game if you got it installed, but Ubisoft is really fricking the industry sideways.
>Epic chink shill try to meme as Steam stealing games >Turns out the game will still be avaiable on Steam but won't require Uplay anymore
Frick might as well buy Far Cry 5 in the next sale if it's cheap enough and wait until it becomes Uplay DRM free
You can really tell this entire controversy has become a way for Epic shills to try to blame this on Steam when Steam has no control over Ubisoft's decisions and Ubisoft itself has stopped releasing new games on Steam altogether.
The steam chair!
>t. Davros
you own nothing either way, brainlet
do some legal reading every now and again
Try to break into my house to steal my physical games and you'll see what happens to you.
Post address
1600 Pennsylvania Ave, DC. I'm in the big, white house.
Go away pedo peter
hes your next door neighbor, just walk over and steel his games
>ur a b***h thats to scared to lmao
Are you referring to the "read-only" pieces of plastic that you can only use on a DRM-certifying machine? If this is what you mean by "physical games", try reading their license which is what you can and cannot do with what you "own".
The problem isn't the way the game is distributed, it is DRM, which you as a console user and "owner" of physical games are the biggest supporter of.
It's well established that a EULA is not a legally binding agreement. Violating it breaks a contract that binds the company to give you an extremely limited amount of service surrounding the game, such as accepting a support ticket from you when you log on to their website to say you get an error code when you try to play matchmaking (something they don't verify EULA integrity for anyway).
The point is, with a physical game, you paid for a product, and a product is something that you keep whatever state its in. Even if it's "read only," if you can figure out a way to make it NOT read only that's your prerogative to with what you please. With a game service client like steam, you have no such guarantees.
>Even if it's "read only," if you can figure out a way to make it NOT read only that's your prerogative to with what you please
debatable
for instance, in japan modifying consoles to be able to run backups is illegal and penally prosecuted
it's a legal grey area where people do things out of habit because what's legal and what isn't hasn't really been clearly defined
My console is not connected to internet ,try to steal my games now
Ubisoft is shutting down the servers for a select number of older games of theirs. Whether or not you purchased said games physically or digitally has zero effect on the fact that they are no longer playable for you, because both physical and digital versions require you to connect to the no longer available servers as part of their DRM. Why is this so difficult to understand for some people? Your physical copy of AC: Liberation doesn't have the capability to be installed and played on a console without internet connection. It's like trying to play Diablo 3 without a battle.net account and offline, it doesn't matter whether or not you have a physical copy of the fricking game.
you can play diablo 3 offline on consoles, pc users get shafted as always
if I have better guns and preparation, you're fricked.
but you don't
>better guns
I'm black. Your wife, girlfriend, mother and/or sister will beg me to frick them
And I'm trans (forgot to mention in my post), so you better watch yourself chud
physic-ACK
Legally speaking, they're still only licenses and the companies actually owning the games have any right to revoke them whenever they want for whatever reason. At that point, playing your physical games is the same as committing piracy, which is also what you can do to play any of those steam games.
>Man in sent to jail for killing a company exec that claimed he was "just trying to keep my games from being stolen"
You do realize gamers aren't respected, right? The world kinda hates your kind on sight. If anything you'd likely get the death chair for it too if you tried to fight back.
>>Man in sent
Fricking esl kys
>One typo
>Spergs out
It checks out.
That's not a typo you fricking moron
>That's not a typo you fricking moron
>Man IS sent to jail
Who needs meds now?
A typo is a misspelling of a word,not a grammar error you fricking moronic esl now rope yourself already
>house burns down
>you now own nothing
>I kill you
>I now own your soul
This is my worst nightmare. I own thousands of dollars worth of videogames
Do you own your house? Or the land it is on?
You pay rent to the government called taxes where they """promise""" not to seize it
this level of israeliteism is an affront to God
you should. their eula's don't change the law, they're there in hopes that you won't do anything about it.
>T. Buygays problems
Bro I just open my bible and there's nothing there about defending infinite israeliteery wtf bro why are you lying?
>own game on steam
>have clean files
>download 50kb crack from cs.rin.ru
>?????
>profit
It's not going anywhere.
>profit for the russian who installed a miner on your pc
Either a shill or so braindead he actually managed to get infected from downloading a game crack somehow
>Companies are conspiring to take away your right to legally own anything.
>Heh... yeah but if you do illegal thing, then what?
Surely you can see this leads nowhere good.
Not him, but the main thing this specifically will cause is increased amounts of pirating of Ubisoft games which may lead to Ubisoft focusing more on consoles again. That's not good, no; but I can't see it leading to much worse than that unless you're actually dumb enough to actually buy Ubisoft games on PC from this point forward.
>which may lead to Ubisoft focusing more on consoles again
oh no anything but that
>illegal
What are they going to do? Send me a letter? No ISP ever follows up on a suit, let alone an arrest. And even if they did, I can prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that I own a license for the game - ergo, I can torrent it without worry as long as I dont redistribute.
Dude they literally took away something you paid for. Frick them.
yeah frick em and not just accept it because you can pirate it
fire with fire
>illegal
where?
when the villains write the laws then there are simply no laws
the only legal doctrine I obey is the bible
Just shoot them.
Digital property rights are only respected out of respect.
At one point nearly a decade ago, I got blocked from buying/trading/playing multiplayer on steam because apparently I used a stolen credit card to buy Far Cry 3 or something? (I already owned this game). I went to Reddit to complain and they called me lol hacker scammer. I complained to Steam support until they finally reverted the change and apologised, citing a mistake on their part. Don't give Steam a fricking cent.
>I worked with Steam and they corrected their mistake
>FRICKING STEAM
they're not omniscient, idiot. I could see complaining if you got stuck permanently. but you're just being illogical here over feefees.
I lost 20k out of my savings because someone working for my bank punched in the wrong number in one of the digits for account numbers on some business transaction 4 years ago
They fixed it in like 4 days
big whoop
Your bank is absolute SHIT if they allow tellers to make unchecked business transactions that withdraw from consumer accounts. There should be a strict boundary in place there as part of standard operating procedures.
>sub to water delivery in march
>receive 2 bills
>sub amounts overlay each others so it's no clear if I'm paying twice or if the documents lacks informations
>call the company
>dude tells me it's normal, but I don't buy it
>call days later
>w*man find the mistake and puts up a refund
It's about finding the good links in the system and being a good link yourself so the system can continue to serve us instead of making us miserable
>I complained to Steam support until they finally reverted the change and apologised, citing a mistake on their part. Don't give Steam a fricking cent.
>reverted the change and apologised
lol why are you still mad about this a decade later when they fixed it?
So you don’t like steam because they have good customer service?
Man that's rough.
I've been having issues with steam for my Steam Deck order.
I needed to change an address and let steam know like 5x and each time they said they let the delivery service know, but according to the delivery service steam never reached out to them once.
My only option was to have my deck sent back so it wasn't delivered to an address that doesn't exist.
It sounds like your gripe is with reddit autist-kun. Maybe you should GO BACK and work it out with them
Give it back Jamal
>redditgay goes to reddit
>they call him a gay
>redditgay goes to steam
>they fix his problem
steam is the bad guy here
>I went to
You should go back
STOP
KILLING
GAMES
>Even if you already bought it
Source? Every other time someone said this about a Steam getting removed from sale it ended up being bullshit.
its already removed from sale
in september you wont be able to download it anymore
https://store.steampowered.com/app/260210/Assassins_Creed_Liberation_HD/
Removing games from download has never happened in the history of steam, even for games that violated the law. It seems VERY unlikely.
>in september you wont be able to download it anymore
Even if you install it before that date, you still won't be able to play it anymore.
Its DRM requires server-side authentication each launch, and the servers will be down at that point.
That doesn't sound like a Steam problem that sounds like a Ubisoft problem and it's exactly what everyone gets for using UPlay.
This is exactly it. Steam could allow you to download the files they have on the steam server if you've already bought it, but you still wouldn't be able to play the game because it requires Uplay and Ubisoft are removing it from their servers.
It's exactly the same as Tera shutting down their servers, because even if you bought it on steam you can no longer play it.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/212740/TERA__Action_MMORPG/
Except that's an MMO and this is a single player game.
where have you gotten this inaccurate information? or do you count being able to boot to a menu, a steam game not being removed?
>https://www.ign.com/articles/ubisoft-to-shut-down-multiplayer-and-online-services-for-15-games-in-september-2022
>https://www.ign.com/articles/ubisoft-removing-access-assassins-creed-liberation-hd
>As stated in our support article, only DLCs and online features will be affected by the upcoming decommissioning. Current owners of those games will still be able to access, play or redownload them. Our teams are working with our partners to update this information across all storefronts and are also assessing all available options for players who will be impacted when these games’ online services are decommissioned on September 1st, 2022. It has always been our intention to do everything in our power to allow those legacy titles to remain available in the best possible conditions for players, and this is what we are working towards.
What this means is that anything that requires phoning home to the Ubisoft servers won't work which includes single player DLC across all platforms, not just Steam. You could have it all on a physical disk and it still won't work without a crack come September.
You were all warned yet you refused to listen.
A pirate has more control than a consumer.
>anyone in the industry does anything bad
>IT'S STEAM'S FAULT
Absolutely rent free.
I guess success really does breed jealousy.
It's steams fault if they allow it to continue to happen instead of protecting their customers from bullshit refund the games and blacklist ubisoft, whats so difficult about that? not going to even hurt ubisoft because their homosexual games install their shitty gay homosexual assfrick launcher anyways
Well I mean these are some pretty outstanding circumstances that'll probably prompt Valve to add a clause to their store for delisted games.
They're very reactionary when it comes to policies. Only when things start hitting the fan do they actually do something.
>ubishit
nothing of value was lost
and even then steam is just a platform, literally just a store app
blame publishers
>Ubisoft disables access for AssCreed Liberation HD on all platforms it is currently available on
Why is this a Steam problem exactly?
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/retire_app
>Before reaching out, take a moment to carefully consider whether or not pulling your game down is actually the right choice. Are you acting based on an emotional response to negative feedback, or is retiring your game the appropriate next step? We take our relationship with customers seriously, so if you choose to cancel development of a game and retire it from the store, we will not republish it again later and we may offer refunds to any users who purchased it.
>we may
>may
What's your point?
It's "may" because it's subject to applicable law and the consumers affected actually speaking up and addressing the problem to Steam.
Basically: it's "may" because you may be stuck in the anti-consumer shit-hole called the USA which trains consumers to "shut up and CONSOOM," rather than the EU which has legislation that tells traders they can stuff their EULAs where the sun don't shine.
Can this be explained to me? I thought Steam worked in such a way that the developer/publisher deliberately had to pull the data from Steam's servers in order to make the game inaccessible.
What could possibly be the reason for Ubisoft to do this? From where I am sitting it only looks like terrible PR
>Can this be explained to me?
Ubisoft's shitty game has DRM on it that Ubisoft doesn't want to keep online anymore. The game cannot be run without the DRM. Since Ubisoft wants to save money by shutting down the DRM they have to also shut down the game since it's an always online game that doesn't function without the DRM.
>Ubisoft's shitty game has DRM on it that Ubisoft doesn't want to keep online anymore.
Ah that explains everything, thank you.
literally just get an intern to remove the DRM from the game, it'll cost nothing
They need to locate the source code and the team that made the game might exist no more. Being able to compile the game again could be not that simple and that takes time and money.
But for Ubishit it seems that it's better destroying what's left of your reputation instead of wasting a few days of work.
they could LITERALLY steal a crack, clean it up, and distribute it as a patch in 2 hours.
>game is always online
>be warned that servers may shut down one day
>buy it anyway
>serves shut down
>HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!
The future you have chosen
>single player game
>always online
Why?
jews
YO HO HO
enjoy your virus
GameCopyWorld is still a thing?
yes, and it still steals trainers from the people making them, which also makes them easier to download since i don't need an account
Lmao, this is exactly how this site looked in 2004, I think even GameFaqs has changed it's design in 18 years, thouh I am not sure
Looks like nobody learned from Darkspore and countless dead mmos. Yeah goyim keep buying Always Online DRM games you will love it when we take your toys.
>blaming the israelites for your small penis
Sup JIDF.
>Steam
but that applies to all platforms
Console versions of the game obviously can still be played, because unlike what is common on PC, consoles do not have DRM on single player games.
I'm not sure if you're just being dishonest or are genuinely this moronic
I literally can play the game and nothing the company can do will stop me. What are you talking about? If you are referring to it being cracked on PC, then no shit, but I am talking about the officials means.
You're a moron.
Did you even read the post he was replying too?
Yeah what'd I miss?
The person claimed it applied to all platforms, so the post you responded to was correcting that erroneous claim. You seemingly were not looking at the comment via that lens.
Also that comment was correct that DRM is included in a lot of PC single-player games while the console versions don't, but that isn't really the point, and it is true the DRM can eventually be removed from the PC version.
My comment was made regarding the claim that consoles don't have DRM. My understanding is that consoles (8th gen and onward) have as much DRM as PCs. Therefore, the only reason people will still be able to play this ubishit game on their chosen console is that ubishit isn't turning off the service on that platform.
>My understanding is that consoles (8th gen and onward) have as much DRM as PCs.
Xbox might, since a lot of the time, the game isn't actually on the disc and the digital versions might have it. PlayStation and Switch however are actually on the disc/cart and do not have DRM. You can play the games even if you didn't have internet access for years.
I would have figured that the PS4/5 would be in the same league as Xbox One/Series. Switch, I can believe.
Even so, any console that can phone home is a risk in that an update could be pushed to disable access to certain games (maybe I'm being overly paranoid)
>I would have figured that the PS4/5 would be in the same league as Xbox One/Series.
I think the difference is a result of what Xbox has done in order to have seamless backwards compatibility. That's my understanding anyways. But in any case, I know for a fact that both Playstation and Switch do not have DRM.
>Even so, any console that can phone home is a risk in that an update could be pushed to disable access to certain games (maybe I'm being overly paranoid)
Yes, that is possible on all consoles for digital versions of the games when you have an internet connection. You see it happen sometimes when something goes wrong and a preload game or whatever somehow is accessible too early, and later the game license gets revoked. But since there is no actual DRM, you could avoid that if you were to stay off of the internet, and in the case of physical versions, you always are able to just put the disc/cart in and play the game.
Damn, I have reasons to hate snoy, but I suppose locking people out of their physical games isn't one of them. I concede the point.
>I know for a fact that both Playstation and Switch do not have DRM.
I don't think you know what DRM is.
What do you think happens if you try to run a pirated game on Switch or PS5? Or an amateur game that doesn't have permission from Sony or Nintendo?
Spoiler alert: you won't be able to unless your device is hacked.
You simply cannot access illegal digital content on consoles, the hardware itself serves to enforce copyright.
>The point is, with a physical game, you paid for a product, and a product is something that you keep whatever state its in.
The same with digital.
>I don't think you know what DRM is.
You are misunderstanding my point. Yes, there is DRM in some form. But my point is that in the form people are concerned about the most - that is, can the company stop me from playing my legal purchased game, at least if it is a physical version - Playstation and Switch do not have that.
You are right about pirated content, and yes, that is a form of DRM certainly, but that isn't the subject here. What I was saying is that what is happening to ACL cannot happen on most consoles it is on (at least not the physical versions)
The point is that having the game in physical form doesn't guarantee you anything, in fact Nintendo and Sony may decide to prevent your access to them right now as long as you keep your console updated, which they don't do because of business decision and probably because of laws. I have a Nintendo Switch and the digital games work exactly like the physical ones, once I download them legally, I have infinite access to them even with the console offline, even if I don't keep the console and games up to date.
There's only one real advantage of physical games, you can legally resell them to another player, which is impossible with digital games for now. Other than that, you are in the hands of corporations in the same way as people who consume digital games, in fact it is even worse, because digital games are easier to backup and crack.
>The point is that having the game in physical form doesn't guarantee you anything
But you just in a following sentence ("I have a Nintendo Switch and the digital games work exactly like the physical ones, once I download them legally, I have infinite access to them even with the console offline, even if I don't keep the console and games up to date.") explain exactly what guarantee you do get. If I have a physical copy of a Switch game, there is absolutely nothing Nintendo can do to permanently block me from playing it. Are you trying to say they could stop me from playing them physical game that I have? Even if I play offline? They cannot. That is what I am saying With those physical versions (at least of the current console generation), you can NEVER get into the scenario that is threatening the Steam version of the Assassins Creed game (although again, you can crack the game and the problem goes away from the Steam version).
Those are not actually totally physical versions and are thus irrelevant to what I talking about. I am talking about games (the majority of games) where everything is on the disc and playable.
Just to clarify, when I say "everything', I mean all the content for the game to be in a complete state. Obviously there will be patches that fix or add things. I am excluding games that need a day one patch to even be playable.
>Are you trying to say they could stop me from playing them physical game that I have? Even if I play offline? They cannot.
NTA, but yes they can, look at XBOX, the vast majority of physical games, even ones that have the entire game on disc, will install but refuse to launch if your console is offline or not logged into your microsoft account.
>inb4 it's not sony or nintendo
my point is they, console companies in general, can indeed stop you from playing even your legally owned physical copies if they so desire
Xbox I have acknowledged that such is the case, but for Nintendo and Sony, you at least have the obvious workaround of playing offline, which is an extremely straight forward workaround.
yes, but unless you always play offline as a habit, your console will eventually need an update, or even one of the games you want to play might need the latest update, and nothing stops nintendo and sony from implementing the same measures in such update the same way xbox did
basically, replying directly to what you said so far, sony and nintendo don't stop you from playing physical games offline, but can they stop you if they want? Yes, they absolutely can
I suppose in the sense that Sony/Nintendo could patch the system software so that it won't play any games without validation check, okay, I acknowledge it is within the realm of possibility. It at least isn't the case right now for those two consoles.
>If I have a physical copy of a Switch game, there is absolutely nothing Nintendo can do to permanently block me from playing it.
There's nothing about the physical media itself preventing Nintendo from doing that, it's just their business decision.
They could in the next firmware force all players to log on to the internet once a week, even those who use physical media, but they don't do that because it's obviously bad business (Microsoft tried to do that though, I don't know how it works currently).
They don't force you to log in for digital games either (if you're on your primary Switch), except to download for obvious reasons. At this point, it is "better" than Steam which needs to verify your account every now and then, but only because the PC is open while the Switch is closed.
>There's nothing about the physical media itself preventing Nintendo from doing that, it's just their business decision.
You are correct and I have acknowledged that in
But even if you go that far, they can't force you to install it. You might be unlucky and install it without knowing about that check, but if you know about what the update does, you can simply choose not to do it. You might not be able to play online anymore, but at least you can still play physical games up to that date.
>The point is, with a physical game, you paid for a product, and a product is something that you keep whatever state its in.
>The same with digital.
I mean, that's true, but the company that sold it to you can just arbitrarily say 'okay, you're done playing now'. They can't send their men to your house to take back the disk you paid for, that will work as long as you have a console that plays it and as long as the disk works. Your access to the game is limited by the medium it is stored on, rather than whether or not the publisher decides to keep their DRM 'service' running.
To make a more accurate comparison it's like selling someone a car, only the seller can remotely and permanently lock all of its doors and windows, preventing you from getting in. No one in their right mind would support something like that, but that's exactly the precedent Ubisoft is setting.
>No one in their right mind would support something like that
Ever looked at the specs for a Tesla, anon?
You mean the company with a soon to be monopoly on car manufacturing after everyone's vehicles die because Biden forced gas companies to include more ethanol?
Good times ahead.
Don't remind me about the current state of ICE vs EMVs - I fricking can't stand the holier-than-thou smugness of people that actually believe highly poisonous limited lifetime lithium batteries recharged from a power grid predominantly relying on a backbone of burning coal during peak use, is somehow the god-given answer to the climate problem. Bunch of fricking virtue-flagging auto-fellating eco-homosexuals.
There is no climate problem. Never was. Just another case of stupid people being used to drive a unrelated agenda.
When the PS4's CMOS battery dies, if replaced, the console will require Sony's servers to still exist in order to enable the use of discs once again. When those servers go down, every single console is destined to become a brick.
Not anymore. It has been fixed since the controversy.
https://www.vg247.com/ps4-cmos-battery-issue-fixed-with-firmware-9-0-0
False. Bayonetta collection, Megaman and megamanX collections have only 1st half on-cart, and you download 2nd half. Heaven forbid they print two carts or make bigger cart sizes!!!
I dont know why the frick they do that shit, but the resident evil origins collection is the most egregious one
>physical copy of fricking Resident Evil 0
>digital download for REmake
Absolutely fricking disgusting
>consoles do not have DRM on single player games.
The console is hardware DRM, dumbass.
Read the thread before responding next time.
Idiot.
What big racing game was it that recently had a server outage? Because it stopped you from playing the game AT ALL, including single player.
Also isn't denuvo an always-online DRM? Those games can't be played alone without internet.
>Also isn't denuvo an always-online DRM? Those games can't be played alone without internet.
Denuvo has a few different operating modes.
iirc one where it requires a consistent connection with a rolling key that is good for a few minutes only.
another where it authenticates only on launch and has a session key that remains good while the game keeps runnign.
and one where it stores a longer term key on disk for re-use offline, but which expires after a set time window - where you're required to reauthenticate.
well you actually own nothing in this world
private ownership after all is merely a social contract
So why are pirategays so insecure?
It's like they can't go a minute without mentioning they pirate stuff.
So pirategays are schizos too?
Making a simple search for a repeated phrase through recent archives is "schizo" now? You were found out and you look like an obsessed bootlicking moron, deal with it.
Bruh making shit up is schizo shit.
>repeated phrase
it's not searching for a phrase. just people saying vegan and pirate on the same sentence. it found less than 200 times people said that and that's not even a copypasta
>Even if you already bought it
How can they do that if you already have it downloaded?
Also why don't we have class action law suits to rape the frick out of the executives that make these decisions??
Europe does.
Mutts don't
Rent free
>post fact
>you get mad
?
>fact
eurotards always go on about their consumer laws and shit but not once have they actually done anything
it's illegal in the EU anon
And? You pussies won't do anything about it, as usual.
at least it's illegal here while you have no rights LOL
>europe better because we pretend to be better
Eurotards
Are you expecting this situation to get overturned in Europe? There is no loophole or something that Ubisoft is aware off that made them think this decision would fly?
You'd think they consider European law as a European company, but who knows honestly. EA thought they could push their lootboxes through European law too until their gave up.
You can refund games right now because of the EU moron
Wrong, you can refund games because Gabe needed to apologise for paid mods, it has nothing to do with yuropoors.
Ubisoft is a french company you Eurohomosexual, so do something about it.
Can't. Not until there are actual damages, come September.
Also; in the EU it's not Ubisoft that's liable. It's Steam, since EU legislation holds the TRADER liable for failure to supply and non-conformance in general - which is what this is.
Basically; once we hit September and the games and DLC content become inaccessible, there will be failure to supply.
This means EU consumers can contact Steam Support and ask them to fix their failure to supply / non-conformance issue.
Steam will reply they can't.
The consumer at that point is entitled to terminate the contract and be due a full refund from the trader, i.e. Steam.
The trader, i.e. Steam, can at that point use their right of redress to claim those refunds as damages with their supplier, i.e. Ubisoft.
Well this doesn't just affect Steam. It affects all platforms, even console CDs, so Ubishit is still liable.
>even console CDs, so Ubishit is still liable.
The retailer is the liable party in the EU, when you've purchased physical.
If you were DUMB enough to purchase physical and STILL hold the false belief that that somehow gives you any form of advantage over digital, other than a nice (but otherwise completely fricking worthless) box to put on display and look at -- then I hope you've kept your receipt...
>in the EU it's not Ubisoft that's liable. It's Steam, since EU legislation holds the TRADER liable for failure to supply and non-conformance in general - which is what this is.
Thats fricking moronic, it's Ubisoft doing this shit, how the frick is the middleman at fault?
Did you not read the last part you double Black person?
Because the EU makes the trader the single point of contact for the consumer and being the professional party to the contract of sale, deems them responsible to sort that shit out on THEIR time rather than YOU being forced to do it on YOURS.
Note that the same set of legislation gives the trader a so-called right of redress vis-a-vis their suppliers, that is: gives them legal recourse to sue the supplier for damages equal to what they had to spend to fix the supplier's shit breaking.
That's not failure to supply, the game has been supplied, the license has been supplied. That's the failure of the product to perform as advertised and that's the fault of the producer/manufacturer, not the middleman.
>That's not failure to supply
The correct answer is: it depends on the specifics. Which is why I also mentioned non-conformance in general.
If the title actually becomes completely unavailable for download and installation, then that is failure to supply. Because as per the 2019/770 directive, the EU codifies 'supply' as being provided the means to access (for online content) or download and install (for local content) your purchase.
If it becomes unplayable because the DRM doesn't pass the license check and immediately closes, then that's a bit ambiguous if it's failure to supply - given you COULD interpret 'access' as actually completely starting the game and being able to consume it. But even without, it certainly falls foul of conformance.
But note that in either case, the EU holds the trader liable and not their suppliers.
Caveat venditor - trader beware, i.e. know what you are selling because you are liable for it.
this is due to the game having an online DRM, not being bootable offline. Which is moronic for a single player game. But Ubisoft didn't bothered not removing it
>pirate game
>crack it
>save it to an external hd
Many physical copies for free. Physicalgays that want some company """certification""" need to die.
GOG
Lots of games are not sold anymore on steam and people can still play it.this is 1009% ubisoft fault
ubisoft clearly want you to play their game for free
You own nothing on any digital store. Remember the Deadpool game and all that Marvel shit they removed from everywhere? Thank frick for piracy.
this is the future of always online games. say bye bye to the likes of nu hitman the moment it becomes unprofitable
I hate that this is true. Numan is one of the greatest videogames of all time and it will be lost soon. Less than 10 years, I'm sure.
if you hate it don't support it stupid
I don't own a single one of these that haven't been given out for free at some point. It's sad that it happens even for online only games, but paying for something and then having it taken from you isn't entirely unavoidable
Ate steammies finally realizing their entire library is just a rental?
There are hundreds of other games not being sold anymore that steam users can still play
Frick some people can still play onimusha3 on steam and that game was removed from steam over 12 years ago
This is ubishit fault
so you get to keep drm free games on steam? same is true for any platform if you put it somewhere. there are also games that have been sold on steam you can't currently play.
and yes it's ubisofts fault, but what does that matter?
>bar new low
how is this going to work in countries where consumers actually have rights? can euros demand a refund for this?
Euros can cope and pretend like they will do anything, as usual
Digital cucks BTFO.
NUUUUU
EPIC ARE THE TRUE EVEIL
nothing to do with steam
have you bought any games from the Epic store?
Doesn't matter which storefront you bought it from, all PCúcks get fricked like they all deserve.
Meanwhile, my physical copy on PS3 will continue work just fine.
my pirated version still works perfectly fine too
Why that game specifically?
Because no one is buying it anymore and it has the same style of DRM as ass creed 2 in that it has to constantly phone home or else it kicks you off. No server means no game, and the DRM is so hilariously invasive that it would probably cost them more to remove it than it would make in future sales.
When you "buy" something on steam or any of these platforms you're only really getting the keys to updates and multiplayer, YOU OWN NOTHING AND YOU VILL LIKE IT.
So basically piracy wins again.
Pay for a VPN instead, frick these companies and never let some butthole guilt trip you with cost for overhead on the developers end.
It isn't the end users problem, it never was.
>a bar new low for consumers
ESL hands typed this
Watch, this'll be a test. If no one chimps out over this, all the big companies will start following suit.
Doubt, if this shits becomes common it will just erode trust on Steam and cause a resurgence in piracy
How is Ubisoft pulling its game Steams fault? Are you fricking stupid?
Where was the game sold, moron?
Youre actually fricking dumb
What does it not being Steams fault change for the end consumer you stupid Black person
>always online game from a scummy company shuts down servers making game unplayable
>FRICKING STEAM
oh no not the hecking liberation HD
>oh no not the heckin horse armor
>Ubisoft
Ew
I only buy DRM free on Steam. What now?
You're based
that's all
>ubisoft takes away game from you
>FRICKING STEAM!!!!!
moron
It's not exclusively a steam problem
this
it's ubisoft the ones who are taking away your games, not steam
Although I agree to an extent, steam shouldn’t even have the ability to allow it in the first place. Something like this would require some government intervention but you know how much Ganker hates communism
>steam shouldn’t even have the ability to allow it in the first place
it's literally nothing steam/valve can do anything about, ubisoft games require you to use ubisoft launchers and/or in-game ubisoft log in, if ubisoft decides to stop providing network access from a game, valve is powerless to stop them
and im pretty sure all of this is in their partnership contract, as well as the TOS players carefully check "i read and accept" when they start the game
Yeah that’s why I said the next sentence
as the retailer steam has the ethical responsibility to ensure that the customer has access to the games they sold
>Far Cry 3
>What happens to Blood Dragon?
pc bros will keep getting fricked by these drm inducing shit companies so long as they buy from them, gog and itch.io are your best options
>pc bros will keep getting fricked by these drm inducing shit companies so long as they buy from them
i buy from them, and backup my games with cracks and steam emus
it takes just one brain cell to not get fricked by them
Tell me when GOG gives a shit about Linux and I might buy from them.
>gog and itch.io are your best options
GoG bent the knee and allow DRM now.
This isn't a problem because there are no good Ubisoft games anyway.
You should value your hard drive more than to even pirate that garbage.
The only other companies that would do this are also shit like EA and Activision. So just please play better games if this is a problem.
It literally wouldn't matter if steam still offered the game, or if you had a local file on disk. The game has built in DRM the servers that UBISOFT HOSTS THEMSELVES to validate drm requests are going offline. The game would be unplayable, which is why steam is removing it.
Plenty of games are removed from sale that users can keep in their library, like Dark Souls Prepare to Die; which can work since there is no DRM to validate access to the game.
Ubisoft has never liked PC, more than 10 years ago they would deliberately delay PC releases and make sure the ports was shit, blame low sales on them all being pirates. Even now today, they make new content for the new games but only consoles get this content but PC does not. This will not be the first or last time Ubishit decides to frick over PC
isn't ubisoft an european company? come on yuros do something i thought you were super pro consumer or some shit like that
ubisoft is fr*nch, not scandinavian. big difference
Nowadays, ubisoft is as French as Sony is Japanese.
Another ringing endorsement of piracy from Ubisoft.
You people realize less games than ever actually have DRM? Steam doesnt even work in the same way something like a music streaming service where the downloads are sneakily hidden or encrypted so you cant transfer to another device, the tools to make Steam drm free are also completely available to anyone and Valve has never done anything against it. If you are not a moron you could "own" more games than you actually will ever play compared to a few generations ago or even today with how Xbox games can only be played in a Xbox device despite MS dropping out of console exclusives.
Don't care. Will still pirate.
As long as you have no access to nuclear weapons you own nothing period.
how is this even allowed?
they should literally be RAPED TO DEATH IN COURT, having to file for bankruptcy, thrown in prison and fricked by a pack of Black folk in prison until they hang themselves Epstein style.
Why do people even buy ubishit games? There are games that differ more after few patch cycles than how Assassin's Creed 1 is different from Odyssey. Do they have a specific way to market it to gullible plebs?
This is going to happen to nu-Hitman soon and a legit good games will be forever lost just because they put fricking unlockable items on a server.
It seems to me that you'll still "own" the game's license but you won't be able to play it anymore because as soon as you boot the game it will fail to login to the Ubisoft servers.
>days ago at a major Ubisoft press conference
Kek they're teasing buygays and not even being subtle about it
Deserved for buying Reddit's Creed, the series that killed Prince of Persia
>finish game
>ubisoft takes it down
>write steam for a refund
>win
IMAGINE buying any nUbishit game that isn't Anno lmao
Fricking imagine
Couldn't be me
>IMAGINE buying any nUbishit game that isn't Anno lmao
Anno 2070 is also going bye-bye:
>Notice: Please note this title will not be accessible following September 1st, 2022
Check for yourself:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/48240/Anno_2070/
It's probably because Anno 2070 uses the always-online Solid Shield DRM from Tages.
Black folk
God please someone save the Anno devs from that god forsaken company
>God please someone save the Anno devs from that god forsaken company
You may get that wish. Rumors through the grape vine have it that Ubisoft has been positioning itself to prominent industry members within the market as ready, able and willing to be taken over.
are you fricking serious
can't even play single?
You won't even be able to install it
fricking Black personhomosexuals
This is disgusting. I actually liked that one.
Frick Ubisoft.
>they remove Anno 2070
>meanwhile, Anno 1404, which is even older, remains perfectly playable
Ironic.
apparently the Anno 2070 devs are trying to make it that you wont need the always online to play , if they can fricking do it Assassin creed , Far cry and Splinter cell ones can
Steam and other stores should be required to put a warning on the store page for always online games like this. And I don't mean some small info box about a third party client or denuvo drm - I mean a big fat box that clearly states in simple words that the user might loose access to the game in the future if the publisher decides to shut down the servers. God that would be glorious. I would want to see the face of the ubishit marketing subhumans when all their games have to have a big "smoking can kill you" warning sings.
The EU already literally requires that for distance sales consumers are informed up front of the conditions that could lead to the termination of a contract of indeterminate time. Duration of contract and terms for termination are part of the formal information requirements for distance sales. As these are legal requirements the trader must adher to, the consumer is reasonably allowed to assume that for any game-software where the trader does NOT inform them of this fact up front - the standard practice of 'will work forever, but maybe the multiplayer will go down at some point' applies.
A case where the DRM servers are taken offline and the game or its bought DLC is made inaccessible, constitutes non-conformance / failure to supply - unless the trader explicitly (note: cannot be done via general terms and conditions or EULA and burden of proof that it WAS done is on the trader!) informs the consumer up front that they or their supplier reserve themselves the right to at any point in time at their sole discretion pull the plug.
yes i own the game
i'm entitled to access it however and whenever i like
you cannot stop me
That's illegal in the civilized world. No reason to worry
Lmao I bought it on sale and never played it, what a waste of money
What sort of moron pays for a single player game?
refunded 3 ubisoft games I bought on summer sale. Asked them to refund ALL ubisoft games if they don't I guess I just wont buy any games from steam anymore as it sets a precendant for other devs to do the same thing
>spend thousands on gaming library
>devs decide they don't want you to play anymore so they just remove the game
Yeah frick you I'm going to start pirating games.
Why did they do it? Are they back on trying to push their own shitty launcher?
We warned you like 10~15 years ago and you didn't listen. Eat shit you fricking c**t.
Wow who knew?
PCgays are moronic.
Uhm, PCmasterrace? What happened?
>can still play all the delisted games I have because they dont rely on the bumfrick moronic online drm ubisoft had
God i hate these frogs so much
>I'm black. Your wife, girlfriend, mother and/or sister will beg me to frick them
This is purely ubisoft, you can still play games deplatformed on steam like the poker night series for example.
when are we going to stop letting companies steal from us
Never now eat za bugs and stay in your pods goy
>thats a nice single player game you got there , would be a shame if we made you unable to play it cause it need our servers to launch
you cannot tell me that they cannot just code easily a "does it need only indentification to launch game and dlc ? no" into it
Depending on how the DLC actually works; no, they can't. It may actually store a partially encrypted executable and encrypted content files on disk, that are decrypted via a key you get back from the authentication challenge.
Make that key and the encryption scheme dependent on the system's unique hardware configuration.
And add the ability to run the game's executable partially in a virtual machine where the op-codes are part of the encryption scheme itself, so the executable is never available in its fully decrypted state, and you basically have Denuvo.
That's what Denuvo DOES.
(cont.)
Well, except Denuvo has an optional (!) offline mode where it can somehow store locally a temporary key that is good for X amount of time before its window expires and it must reauthenticate.
>DLC
*DRM.
(Frick. I need to get some sleep...)
Considering it requires Uplay, they're probably removing it from their own service, which is the only reason Steam is affected at all
You moronic little niglets were told this YEARS ago. Eat shit and suffer.
I get my news on Facebook too
Superior than any major news network.
I especially like how anyone can post anything and people just believe it. I mean, why not? Even with horrific typos like "hospitals nationwide murderer people", you'd think someone would proof read a simple image macro, but no. It gives it added credibility when the people making it don't even speak English
You will never be fully vaccinated.
Just 2 more weeks, surely
And a bahhh bahhh to you too.
>murderer
Which ESL garbage site does this come from?
Why are you pretending to be so hung up on a typo? Were you too moronic to get the message?
that's not a typo it's a fundamental misunderstanding of how english works, esl poltard b***h
Please show some understanding towards FSB interns.
based Steam cleansing the gaming industry from Ubishits.
Based DRMchads shitting on buytards while doing nothing to stop piracy enjoyers
>game's DRM promotes piracy
huh, I thought it was supposed to be the other way around
>buy
That's a strange way to spell donation. Steamgays donated all their money to a rich israelite and got nothing in return.
Valve is also better at managing an online DRM than EA is. Also AC is their game running on their servers. That's not the case with 99% of steam games.
>Ubisoft closes servers
>b-b-but muh steam
pathetic consolebabbies
If you bought a ubisoft game you kinda deserve this, hope they remove more
Gaben owns that 30% of the price, no refunds
The actual fun thing here is that with the way contracts are formulated, were Steam to actually issue refunds to EU consumers they might very well get away with demanding the full refund in damages from Ubisoft under the right of redress. Effectively allowing them to double-dip and turn a literal profit off of the refund, because it leaves their initial 30% cut they took at sale, untouched.
Anno 1404
LOL Ubisoft, setting a dangerous precedent.
Gamers are relentless and cruel. The backlash on this is going to be glorious and fun to watch.
>obviously ubisofts fault with their shit drm servers being taken out back
>still rampent anti-steam shit posting
This is either Epic-funded slander or people are really this committed to trolling whatever defense force they can. Probably a combination of both.
It's ubishills trying to deflect their moronation to steam because valve didnt try to stop them from being moronic.
Always buy games on PlayStation, Xbox has DRM for physical, Steam is DRM, Nintendo closes the E shop and the games aren't on the cartridge.
>A Ubisoft Decision
>A Ubisoft Decision that has to do with Uplay
>Steam is mearly the middle man
>Somehow Steam gets blaimed
>Despite the fact that steam still %100 lets you keep, redownload, and play games that you've bought but are taken off of their storefront
gay
This isn't even steam doing this, its entirely on Ubisoft for being homosexuals as per usual.
How does that israeli dick taste?
Why does your brain race towards gay sex after being faced with literal facts?
If you bought this shit anywhere, even at Ubisoft's own store, you would equally lose access to it, you absolute spergmuffin.
Steam has removed games from their library before you clueless wienersucking sheep.
at the publishers/developers request or because of community outcry
Which games? I know games have been pulled from the store, but I still have access to download and install anything I bought that's happened to.
As someone who has three games that stopped being sold on steam, I can still download and play them with steam. They removed it from purchase but I've never seen them restrict me from playing games I've bought in the past. It sounds like you read a news article and then made your own assumptions about it while not asking any more questions or experiencing it yourself.
It did technically happen once before, but only for a weekend, and the developer claims (and it seems true) that it was just a bug, where something got renamed in the steam depot and caused the game to "update" itself to a blank folder, and it was fixed immediately after.
Ganker had a 2 day meltdown over it though.
I still have mine. Cope.
And you could still play delisted games because they don't have moronic always online DRM, you waste of oxygen.
List them
>state fact
>israeli DICK is the first thought on your mind
I'm not even saying I like steam, you moronic Black person. I bet you're one of Epic's shills given you want to push the blame onto Steam for something decided by Ubisoft.
>so mad you reply twice
Eat all that israeli dick.
>you're mad!
More like baffled at how someone could be as moronic as you.
I don't use Steam and I spit on digital shit. I'm more worthy than you can ever hope to be.
In other words you know nothing of this situation and jumped into the thread to be angry at a launcher you dont even use. Great.
Slurp it all up, goy.
Stop being moronic and jumping to get angry at things you dont even have a grasp at. I swear, it's like I'm talking to an actual child now.
Anyone defending Valve in this day and age is a complete moron and doesn't deserve a lick of respect.
>I don't use Steam and I spit on digital shit
You do realize modern day physical games aren't any better for the most part right? The moment online updates became the norm is the day physical games died. Granted it hasn't infected every game, but it still effects many of them now as most companies go "well we can just push an update to fix it later" all the way to "we can just make them download the rest of the actual game" without thinking about what would happen if someone didn't have the ability to download those updates.
Can anyone translate this autistic babble? All I heard was that digital and physical are somehow in the same boat because physical has patches.
He isn't wrong though. Even if the game comes on a disc, there will be online checks before you can even install it. Your piece of plastic means nothing.
On what console? None of my PS4 games do this.
Yet.
Maybe once you stop thinking about wiener all day you'd be able to understand.
It's not just patches now, some of these games are so big they are just a code so you can download them.
> waaah mommy poo poo he says something me no like
Frick. Right. Off.
Is it worth playing tho? I stopped paying attention to Asscreed after 3.
>making a precedent
Setting a
>Open yandex browser
>Type "download *gamename* torrent ENG repack"
Congratulations, now you own literally every single PC game ever for free
>gaben dindu nuffin
>ha a good boy
You're fully justified in pirating any game you've already paid for in the past and have been denied access to. I don't even consider it stealing, just reclaiming possession of your property.
AC Liberation
we should take this opportunity to accuse Ubisoft of being racist
The only precedent this will make is that everyone "in the know" will pirate Ubisoft's games from now on.
That's what you get when you go digital only. That's why PC has died as a gaming platform and will never recover.
>he thinks the disc's he has are more than a CD-key
lol, lmao even, seriously though, i couldn't handle consoles because i would get a game and have to download day one patches or the entire game through the internet or it wouldn't let me play
You can refuse patches and still play it offline, moron.
>you have to pull the wire out to have basic function of your console and game, bro!
Ubishit responded
https://www.ign.com/articles/ubisoft-removing-access-assassins-creed-liberation-hd
>try to frick over people
>that didn't went well . lets fix it
frick them
Do you have Liberation on Steam or Ubiplay/connect? Isn't ubishit's launcher needed even when you have steam?
>people blaming steam when it applies to literally everything else and is solely a ubisoft problem
You Black folk are real quick to become rabid towards steam
>he's still sucking israeli penis for free
>being mad that you cant be irrationally angry
Do you ever use that logic center of yours instead of being an emotional homosexual all day everyday?
Don't speak like you know me, coward.
Its likely the resident Epic shills. The love pinning the blame on Steam for every single thing, even if its quite literally not Valve's fault for something.
There are a million other things they could use to actually bring up why Steam is bad, but they always choose shit that's not even their fault.
fricking offline mode, why the frick does it not work like intended? every time i've tried to use my games while offline it says frick off or something or it tells me to retry later instead of letting me go into offline mode
>Epic is bad... because.. it just is!!! Stop talking about Steam
Post one Epic game that doesn't work anymore
the shopping cart
Not him but, I never buy anything from Epic, is the shopping cart as buggy as the rest of their site and launcher?
the shopping cart doesn't work on the launcher for some people, i wouldn't call it a big deal tho since no one actually fricking shops at epic store
Unreal Tournament 4
Paragon
It's just Timmy's army of pajeet shills smearing shit all over themselves.
I've always been saying that when you buy a digital license to play a game on steam you don't actually own the game and I was always ignored.
Funny how the turntables
Sick. Love having an ethical reason to pirate any future Ubisoft games.
?t=40
>on steam
Shit can happen on just about anything.
How do you explain the fact that I have Space Hulk in my account? And I mean "that" Space Hulk, not the available for purchase one.
Which one theres like 3 that have been de-listed lmao
Guaranteed this is a moronic panic and nothing else. It's exactly the same as when people sperged out Fifa only allowed a few game installations and it turned out to be dumb bullshit.
why do EGSdrones pretend like this doesn't affect the AC3 on Epic too?
Who the frick are you trying to fool here?
It doesn't because the one on Epic is the ReSHARTerd Edtion
But i do OP
Another proof that nobody called it PSX before 2022
is the PSX ps1?
PSX is a hoax
Umm schizobtros how do we explain epsxe.... http://www.epsxe.com/download.php
>This thread again
>Zero mention of Ubisoft
>Trying to shift the blame onto valve
Epicshills are so easy to spot.
>steamtroony trying to shift the blame
if this was epic you'd be salivating.
t.piratechad
shills go away
Shhh, Ganker is about to admit it secretly loves AC Liberation
thats good now they just gotta announce that you can still have acces to single players dlcs and the controversy will end
You will own games
And you will be happy
But i only buy from GOG.
Most physical AAA releases are always online even if singleplayer. It won't be hard for them to do this with physical games too.
You can only trust Gaben
Why can't we fricking play the DLCs? I don't understand how the games stay up but the DLCs don't.
Basically when you boot it up, it calls the server to make sure it's allowed to run. They're taking away the server, so the program doesn't get an ok, so it doesn't run.
You don't 'make' a precedent you set one, holy frick this bothers me so much. Game '''''''journos'''''' once again ousting themselves as drooling neanderthals.
This is just more evidence that we NEED to start switching to EGS/alternatives immediately. The steam monopoly is destroying PC gaming.
Vice City was just removed from the Play Store too. Probably nothing new for mobile apps but it sucks that can happen.
Yes I do, I own game licenses
So worthless 1s and 0s
every game is 1s and 0s
Yes, which is why you shouldn't pay for them.
You already own nothing in the video game sphere, and in every sphere.
oh, i don't buy assassin's creed, i don't enjoy the taste of shit
>what is tribes ascend
>what is ghost in the shell stand alone complex online
>people ragging on Steam and Valve for this
Is it just ignorance of how Ubisoft games work or what?
They expected Gaben to hold Ubisoft to his standards and Gaben didn't.
>buy game to support developers I like
>pirate games as well
What's wrong with this?
I have an original boxed half life ultimate edition which has keys registered on steam. Bite me
All Ubisoft ex employees I've met are fat French women who hate computers and men who play video games.
Fake news, the game will be retired from the store but owners can still use it.
Like in the other hundreds of cases when this happen.
No, they won't be able to because Ubisoft is taking down their always on DRM servers.
Fake news
https://www.polygon.com/23203824/assassins-creed-liberation-steam-availability-drm
>polygon
homosexual I...
> I can't say anything about the message so I attack the messenger
moron I...
>Messenger is known to be a lying rat
Black person I...
weird, my torrent directory has been fine for years.
Why are steam trannies so desperate to pin this on epic. What the duck epic having anything to do with this
They're programmed to just say 'epic' just like they have to mention the switch when talking about the deck.
They can never look at steam or valve as an independent company it always has to be someone else's fault
Fricking what the frick are you talking about? People have been saying constantly that its Ubisofts fault and Epic Black folk have been trying desperately to pin this as a steam issue.
Then why is the constant "but Epic" being in this thread
Is that because people found out about the key exploit and ubisoft is moronic and can't fix?
I recommend you guys to get all ubisoft games on steam now, don't open it, copy the key and enable it on uplay, then refund from steam. Frick ubisoft
Just another fake story for poorgays and chuds to propagate and feel better about their own misery.
Yeah no shit.
People got so so accustomed to steam being the defacto store on PC when they forgot publishers DONT HAVE TO USE STEAM and can remove the game.
Its Valve's Netflix moment. Now hopefully these morons will start pirating shit instead of dumping thousands of dollars on renting titles.
I own everything and I am happy.
This makes people seethe and whine that they are too stupid to understand how or why things are the way they are.
>AC Brotherhood being removed from steam
>But not AC1, AC2 or Revelations
???
AHEM
>buy game on disc
>install xfire
>add game to xfire and enjoy ingame overly
those were the days
>install the no-cd crack
Can play with all friends regardless if they purchased it from best buy, cicrut city or compusa.
Valve really did frick PC gaming didn't they?
>Ubisoft does something scummy
>BUT MUH STOREFRONT
You can still play the base game if you got it installed, but Ubisoft is really fricking the industry sideways.
Frick steam
>Epic chink shill try to meme as Steam stealing games
>Turns out the game will still be avaiable on Steam but won't require Uplay anymore
Frick might as well buy Far Cry 5 in the next sale if it's cheap enough and wait until it becomes Uplay DRM free
>Ubisoft robs you
never pay them again if u have been
Ubisoft are doing people a favor with this. Liberation was absolute dogshit.
You can really tell this entire controversy has become a way for Epic shills to try to blame this on Steam when Steam has no control over Ubisoft's decisions and Ubisoft itself has stopped releasing new games on Steam altogether.