I joined a Pathfinder 2e game, starting at 11th, with free archetype and ancestry paragon. It was a homebrew setting. We had to help the fairy Summer Court against Spring, Autumn, and Winter.
I created an archer fighter. We were entitled to an 11th-level item. I picked up +2 resilient explorer's clothing. I spent 2,850 gp on a +2 striking longbow with astral and flaming runes and a greater phantasmal doorknob.
During the first two sessions, no PC ever rolled a critical failure on an attack roll, in part due to Hero Points, while I am fairly certain that some enemies did.
In the middle of the third session, an ancient white dragon attacked a festival from the sky. I acted first and launched a Felling Strike. Critical hit. The dragon's flight was shut down, the flaming rune generated persistent damage that would constantly trigger its fire weakness 15, and the greater phantasmal doorknob automatically blinded it. It was epic and satisfying.
I used my final action on a vanilla longbow Strike. Due to a natural 5 and −5 MAP, I rolled a critical failure. I elected against rerolling it with a Hero Point, because it was not worth it.
The GM declared that my character accidentally broke their entire magic bow. The GM read that dry firing a bow breaks it. Forgetting to nock an arrow and thus dry firing the bow seems like something that would happen on a critical failure.
I protested. I said that this was arbitrary and unfair, that it would be patently absurd for a master archer to commit such a mistake, and that enemies previously rolled critical failures on attacks to no ill effect.
The GM replied by saying that RPGs are about telling interesting stories, and that highs need to be balanced out by lows. The GM said that the rules empower the GM to declare what happens on a critical failure (and no, this is not quite right).
I protested further, but the GM either booted me from the Discord server or deleted it outright.
How could this have been better handled?
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>How could this have been better handled?
By not having a GM that's an butthole.
>verification not require
>the GM either booted me from the Discord server or deleted it outright.
are you the same guy who either got booted or the game server deleted during session one, about a week ago?
Copypasta
Either that or the bits are slipping
Do you not know how many pickup group DMs are b***hes and flakes?
they actually are the same person.
see
Yes anon, it's the same guy and he's talking about two separate incidents. Believe it or not but this shit actually happens.
To the same person, posted to as many places as possible? No. They're an attention prostitute making shit up for upvotes and (you)s.
>To the same person
No, two different b***h DMs, two different incidents. It's all real and you are a irony poisoned zoomer thinking nobody could be that dedicated to finding gaming groups.
The only reason i can think of that you're defending OP so hard is that you ARE OP, so edna, please.
You're not fooling anyone. Stop posting here. Stop posting the same thing to every single applicable subreddit to get as many eyes on it as you can. You aren't important.
Mindbroken.
True story or not, it's clear that you are attention seeking and hunting for validation.
Posts fueled by resentment like this rarely if ever make for good threads. If you knew that you'd have at least been honest about it.
If you both knew 2hugay you'd understand the guy is too autistic to try and samegay in his defense. That anon probably just better knows the autist.
cool story bro
DM's a moron, play with less moronic people, end of story.
>RPGs are about telling interesting stories
If all the group at the table is in for collaborative storytelling, maybe, and even then it would be collaborative, not the GM's axclusive story the players need to listen to with no agency. Breaking the character's main weapon is something that can lead to a minor arc sidequest about repairing it, or replacing it completely. It's not something you do on a whim unless you have magic item stores with oddly specific bows lying around, in that case I would question your worldbuilding.
>enemies previously rolled critical failures on attacks to no ill effect
If true, all the more reason not to enforce a rule on the PCs.
>The GM said that the rules empower the GM
That's basically in almost every system.
>to declare what happens on a critical failure
Ok, must be consistent though.
>(and no, this is not quite right).
What system is it anyway?
>the GM either booted me from the Discord server or deleted it outright.
Hilarious.
>How could this have been better handled?
By not joining a discord game. By having a chat before hand to set the tone of the game, the way narrative can move (high, low or no lethality, setbacks, character arcs, sandbox or driven and all that). By asking questions about some rules and the way they are handled. By staying consistent when the same situation (in this case, a critical failure) occurs. You're not playing with friends at a table, you're playing with random idiots from the internet. Always assume they're going to be some flavor of mentally deranged until proven otherwise.
>What system is it anyway?
He's talking about PF2e, which has no consequences to critfailing attacks besides a guaranteed miss.
>a greater phantasmal doorknob
A what?
implement for humiliation rituals
'meta' item for pf2e fighters.
Makes it so you temporarily blind people you critically hit.
>pathfinder 2e
i should have stopped there
>starting at 11th
i should have stopped there
>homebrew setting
i should have stopped there
>playing through discord, and ending getting banned by the autists in there
amateur, power fantasy dm probably dumped by his dnd group, then heard pathfinder was better by its shills and thought to try again there. Also i feel like there's context on your part, like you nerding about your bow and abilities to the point that made him believe youre too powerful/broken and he took the first chance to cut you short
>How could this have been better handled?
nothing more you could do from your part, it was decided it would end like that from the moment you spoke to that dm
(pic to feen te thread)
setting
>i should have stopped there
Setting =/= System
>using the canon setting in D&D or a D&D adjacent system
Kinda cringe, ngl
>How could this have been better handled?
You could have realized that playing PF 2e is a terrible idea.
It could have been better handled by an actual game master, not some fake who goes on about "muh stories".
Playing actual games tend to help you avoid the problems that crop up from narrative-focused theater-kid systems.
>OP posted this exact same post on reddit
>look through their reddit history
>it's the same guy that posted about the oath of devotion charm aura bs
>both stories are posted on as many subreddits as possible
On second thought, I think OP is a homosexual that just wants attention and is making up stories.
He's not the only one, there's the puckee21 gay who posts his commissioned art on here usually within the same hour he posts it on reddit
they're also a degenerate and genshin/star rail fan. yikes.
Critical misses are extremely common given the encounter building rules in the system. Thus, anything even approaching this is moronic, but obviously taking your primary weapon that costs, what, thousands of GP? is absolutely unfair and moronic. So he's just a moron and there's nothing you can do about that. If you really wanted to keep playing with a moron, you could have let him break your character without saying anything.
Yup. Unless the enemy has some sort of special disarm/destroy weapon ability that triggers on crit fails, removing a powerful item arbitrarily is totally shit.
Items and abilities should be countered by an enemies power, not the dice decreeing a player's random incompetence.
>natural 5
>break your bow
I think the GM just hated your character. Or maybe you
PF2e did this idiotic thing where crits aren't about the roll but how much you miss/hit by. So high accuracy builds will crit all over the place while those favoring damage over excessive attack bonuses risks fumbling every attack.
"idiotic"
Yeah, it's idiotic that you automatically crit the level 1 kobold when you're a level 10 fighter.
Additionally, you still crit on 20s and crit fail on 1s.
Know what you're talking about before posting.
No, I will continue to talk out of my ass and face no relevant consequences for being wrong and spreading misinformation.
>gigachad.jpg
I dunno if they fixed it but on release playing monk was hardcore, literally everybody and their mothers crit you super easy. And as a melee forced class with no weapons (unless you spend feats) you were cucked beyond belief
Not quite. Crit fails are actually things specified by individual rules, rather than a general rule. Roll 10 under an Orc's armor and... You miss. Roll 10 under the super counter attack robot, and you get counter attacked. It's honestly pretty good. High accuracy characters triggered crits more often, balancing them against the utility of characters like casters by being the highest straight damage dealers. Critical failures, on the other hand, represent the danger of an enemy rather than pc incompetence. No level 10 fighter is going to huck stab himself on a bad roll.
>No level 10 fighter is going to huck stab himself on a bad roll.
You would be surprise how moronic some GMs can be
Shut the FRICK up go back to your reddit post
aren't critical failures only when you roll a natural 1 on dice and not 10 below the AC or whatever?
>I attack the magic weapon with my bare hands
>You do nothing, it's magic, your hands can't do shit
This is the thing about games with a time-investment on Character Creation, if creation is a breeze and you just rolled the magic weapon from a random table or even found it on the ground, you would be way less likely to drop the game for said weapon breaking like that.
Bulkier systems demand a different approach to storytelling.
If you can break powerful magic artifacts without even intending with your bare hands go full monk. Start punching through magic armors, magic shields, magic barriers. If you can do that by mistake, imagine when you put all your will into it
GM is a master of foreshadowing, OP missed a great campaign.
What happens on critical failures is a mandatory session 0 topic if it's not defined in the rules and you play with strangers. Especially when you have valuable things you could lose or magic is involved.
I cannot help you, but you just freed some of my disk space by making me delete PF2e PDFs.
Do you ever find yourself wondering why every game you join goes to shit?
Just quit the game. I had a DM do the same shit, but worse.
>What'd you roll?
>With my bonuses, I have a 25.
>YEAH, BUT WHAT DID YOU RRROOOLLLLLL?
>A 5.
>You trip over your own boots and stab yourself and you're blind now and you shit your pants.
Just quit. Quit and never look back.
A five or lower? The statistical average is that one player is going to shit themselves every round of combat, for your average group of four members. A hurr-durr one-off like that could be pretty fun.
Frick off Colette.
You always hear about weapon breakage on a critical miss, but when was the last time you heard about a weapon gaining power on a critical hit?
GM is a fricking moron. Find another group.
>I protested further, but the GM either booted me from the Discord server or deleted it outright.
I'm pretty sure you used this exact phrase for a different scenario before. It's really sad that there are so many anons that reply genuinely and since you, instead of at least making shit up to create interesting discussion, seem to intent to test how many bait boxes you can tick (Hoyoverse images, spaced formatting, issue with leading conclusion, etc.) until you get someone I can only say, this sucks, get better material.
I'm pretty sure you've never been in a pickup game before.
I'm pretty sure you've attempted to have a nice day multiple times.
Shame you failed.
I'm certain you're projecting. May you get the help you need soon.
>https://old.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/1bnzf0d/the_dm_either_booted_me_out_or_ended_the_game/
kind of curious now what else you do since you seem to get thrown out of games so often
He either keeps making fanfiction to post here, or he genuinely keeps being booted out a lot, which really puts in perspective who is the real red flag lmao
newbies lmao
Bad selection of games?
He's just immensely autistic, really. Most people can't actually deal with genuine autism and more so newbie GMs who aren't used to player pushback because the resistance to their authority is easy to read as hostile.
he just genuinely cannot fathom that other people
>do not hold and process information like him
>do not think on exactly the same lines as him
and is exhausting and excruciating to argue with as a result, because he assumes he's right and that you are just misinformed, and if he words it right you'll magically come around to his way of thinking.
it's part of why he's so fricking hated on this board. Most people go away if you call them shitwiener c**tstains enough, or refuse to listen to them for long enough, but him? He's built different and I am being derogatory
He's built different and I'm not being derogatory.
Touhouchad makes /tg/flakes seethe and scream.
Why do you post this shit on like 5 different subreddits and here all at the same time?
What the actual frick is wrong with you, mentally?