I like Alpha Protocol THIS MUCH!
I consider it unironically the best RPG that you cannot purchase anywhere anymore. Because GOG is either selling all the old ones or giving them out for free.
Name one other RPG where being disliked also has potentially positive consequences. You can't.
>actual gameplay perk if your handler hates you, the more they hate you the better
>can defeat a boss character early (so he won't show up in the finale) if you piss him off but the right way
>can make someone so angry that he helps you in the finale just because he wants to kill you after personally
>you can kill every woman you can romance and more
>you can tell the ugliest girl that she's ugly and that you would never fall in love with her and that she's delusional after building up the relationship, or shoot her in the head when she thinks you came to rescue her
We will never again have a game like this. NEVER.
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I thought the title was bait. The only thing that I remember about this game is that I watched Day9 play it (because he was paid to do it probably) in the early days of Starcraft 2 popularity and even then I was like .. what is the selling point? Like no marketable feature and an impossible to sell title. Good job!
I wanted to like this so bad. Skill trees were neat, combat chakram animations were cool as a kid, and the pale goth chick wearing nothing but belts was hot, but when I found out she never gets with you it felt like being robbed of a key advertised feature.
Maid of Windamere was in the right and whole House of Ballads were fricking c**ts.
Is it the game that bankrupted the Rhode Island?
Fallout 3 is one of my favorites that causes the most kvetching online. Of course, many games receive b***hing nowadays, and it never matters outside the internet.
This. It's the best of Bethesda's hiking sims, there's nothing quite like wandering into the radioactive winds with nothing but your dog, your gun and some vaguely racist showtunes playing from your nuclear-powered wristwatch. Absolute kino, only major issue with it is it should've been a prequel set a generation after the war.
>It's the best of Bethesda's hiking sims
this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. One of 3's biggest negatives is the open world being garbage.
The only thing that New Vegas failed to improve was the feeling that you were actually in a post apocalyptic world. For once in gaming history it actually worked in favour of the game to have an empty world. Mind you, it's not actually that empty and the atmosphere was perfect. Walking out of the vault and facing a fricking desert that you could explore was a great start. A shame the main story was moronic but all the small side content was so much worth it. Like that small plot irrelevant community of friendly cannibals that you can just randomly run into and you have to really go out of your way to uncover their secret without any real incentive. It made the world feel real and not a collection of places and npcs that revolve around you and your story.
Still though, New Vegas mogs the shit out of F3 and most rpgs in general and will forever be the better game despite being lesser in one critical component.
I liked that it went in the direction of exploring what kind of societies would arise in the inevitable bounce-back. It's hardly realistic to expect that conditions of anarchy would persist forever, and some kind of order would gradually be reimposed that would be a series of competing daughter-civilizations wewuzzing over who was the real America all along, and even went so far as to make them all shades of grey with none having a clear moral superiority over the other
Completely agree. It's just not what I'm looking for when I'm thinking post-apocalyptic.
Has any other game gotten faction politics as right as New Vegas?
>implying NV has good faction "politics"
Geneforge
I, too, think that Fallout 3 is the best Fallout. It's not as hated as the hivemind makes you think.
is this a fartquaad thread
>fartquaad
A what thread? The guy from Shrek 1? Or is that a nickname for Feargus Urquhart?
Lionheart: Legacy of the Crusader and/or Inquisitor. The first one has a great start and then becomes shit as soon as you leave Barcelona, the second has a slow start but great rest of it. Coincidentally, both games have Inquisition.
The 3DS Pokemon games. People make a big deal of hating the games that came after they "aged out" of the franchise but I played all of them as an adult and USUM is my favorite.
>The 3DS Pokemon games
The only 3DS Pokemon game I liked was ORAS due to the breadth of the content (being based on a Gen 3 game helps a lot) and the ease of access to almost all of the Pokemon that had been released up until that point. XY and SM were embarrassingly content light. After SM I stopped buying mainline Pokemon games.
>Duel-wielding Gunblades
I see someone at Nintendo was a FF8 fanboy...
shroud of the avatar.
i played years after the scandals so don't get the hate, its Ultima 10 in all but name
the fact that you even acknowledge 8 and 9 as part of the series tells me you have no soul with which to understand your lack of taste
Ultima 8 wasnt THAT bad. It belongs in this thread too actually. Yes it had a moronic jump mechanic but it had Ultima soul
No.
Great concept, absolutely botched execution due to being rushed out in a few months.
Ultima 8 was fine. Shit movement is the only valid complaint. Everything else is user error.
Only morons would put 8 on the same level as 9.
just because 9 is worse doesn't mean 8 wasn't really bad. even ultima 7 was already becoming something other than an rpg and 8 extends that trend while being a dumpsterfire. utlima 8 is an incredibly malformed game, beset by developmental problems. i don't even believe you actually like it anyway.
Star Ocean 4. It has the best, most fluid and satisfying combat with the least jank, and the best item creation. yeah the plot and characters suck, but they suck in every SO game so you can't hold that against 4.
Also, Diablo 3 and 4. Diablo 3 is legitimately a great game now, and 4 is getting there.
>the plot and characters suck, but they suck in every SO game so you can't hold that against 4
Lmao what reasoning is this?
I'm not giving a game's writing a pass because the whole series it's part of has shit writing.
That said the only SO I've played is SO3TTEOT and the writing felt tolerable. Not *good* per se, but inoffensively bad.
How does it compare to 4 in that regard?
>Lmao what reasoning is this?
people here frequently say 3 is the best game in the series and that 4 has bad characters, which makes it worse for some reason. But 3 has bad characters too, so I legitimately don't understand these people's reasoning.
>How does it compare to 4 in that regard?
If you could tolerate 3 and its moronic plot twist, then you can tolerate the rest of the series no problem.
>Star Ocean 4. It has the best, most fluid and satisfying combat with the least jank, and the best item creation. yeah the plot and characters suck, but they suck in every SO game so you can't hold that against 4.
that's such a good point. it's like playing ys. the stories are gay and moronic, but the gameplay is enjoyable and you can ignore the story or just loosely pay attention to it.
sonic chronicles the dark botherhood, it is still not good, but i did have fun playing it 17 times to try and max out the special move's, turns out that you can't, oh and i remember that i always had a hard time recruiting omega-123
FF8. No I'm not the autist, I just really enjoy the first two discs a lot and was very annoyed for a decade after Spoony's vid where everyone pretended like every facet about the game was trash. Same shit happened with FFX.
Spoony was a based motherfricker for making FF8 fanboys butthurt for literally years. It's a shame he got consumed by political brain worms.
Spoony wasn't consumed by political brain worms, he was consumed by brain worms. He'd been spiraling for a lot longer than this stupid modern shit.
It's like oil on fire, vulnerable people get eaten up by the bullshit because the ideology at play is one of nihilistic loathing. "This stupid modern shit" has been going on for decades, by the way, and was particularly prevalent among tabletop nerds.
politics didn't turn him into a mentally ill sloth, anon
It gave him an excuse to continue doing so, to ignore ideas about self-help. That's what this stuff is all about, conditioning people to enter unproductive mental states.
>Spoony was a based motherfricker for making FF8 fanboys butthurt for literally years.
Did he? I'd consider myself a FF8 fanboy and I never even heard of the dude until this thread. What's his relevance to the scene and why should I care?
He made a comedic review of it before your time, don't worry about it.
God damn, has it really been 16 years? These Zoomers will never know the wonder and mystery of the early internet, and what a big deal it was for us to transition from 500+ channels on cable TV that all sucked balls to YouTube where you could search for the one show that you actually wanted to watch and covered topics that were relevant to more than the lowest common denominator
16 years, he wasn't "before my time", rather the opposite, he was too late to the scene to be noticed.
What's he going to 'review' next, Farscape...
Thanks for letting us know you're not a young guy who doesn't know any better, you're an old guy who is out of touch. I remember laughing my ass off to Spoony's review and feeling grateful that somebody finally outlined all the things that make FF8 trash
>He made a comedic review of it before your time, don't worry about it.
I think you're missing the mark there, my first family computer was a 464.
Cool, my first computer was a Sanyo MBC-550, but your actual age doesn't matter, It's the timeframe of your connection to and awareness of the internet. Like I said, don't worry about it.
>/vrpg/-Black folk nostalgia-gayging over an e-celeb
lmfao
Spoony was a lolcow, especially when he was having his spastic meltdowns and burning down all his bridges. Whoever said fame is conspicuous misery wasn't kidding.
I like it too and I think so did most people who actually played it. Yeah it's flawed, but it's weird in an interesting way. As for Spoony, his purpose is to entertain and not inform and people really shouldn't be taking him as their sole source of opinions on things.
Trails of Cold Steel
I liked Breath of Fire DQ quite a bit, beat it when it was new and thought it was interesting. I liked the feeling of being rushed to make progress, the difficulty being fairly high, and honestly not being sure it was even beatable after nearly getting filtered by the mid game. I can get why people dislike it, but thats ok.
unlimited saga is the only one that comes to mind
the list of rpgs that i hate that everyone else loves is a much bigger list
>Name one other RPG where being disliked also has potentially positive consequences.
Dragon Age 2? Both friendship and rivalry with companions have bonuses iirc.
Septerra Core, it is better than Final Fantasy VII
Fable. The first one. Apparently everyone hates it because it was created by a homosexual that is notorious for lying and overpromising. Don't care now and I especially didn't care back when I first played it. I didn't read reviews, I didn't follow creator blogposts and interviews, I didn't wait for someone to tell me what to think not shill me their product. I pirated blindly and enjoyed. Still one of my favourite games.
>Fable. The first one. Apparently everyone hates it
Meh, everyone loved it when it came out, and when TLC came out too.
Possible. I only used the internet to download shit which I was instructed how to do by a friend and nothing more. I started casually browsing many years later and was completely surprised by all the negative opinions.
>Fable. The first one. Apparently everyone hates it because it was created by a homosexual that is notorious for lying and overpromising.
That's not "everyone" that's just contrarian homosexual pretentious pseuds on vrpg. I played the shit out of Fable 1 and even though it wasn't the paradigm-shifting masterpiece that I was promised it was still a charming, quirky, likable fantasy romp with a sense of humor and that was good enough for me
>it was still a charming, quirky, likable fantasy romp with a sense of humor
It still blows my mind how you cam go from chicken kicking competitions and farting in front of children during class to dead serious family drama and grim darkness without it feeling jarring. Maybe it's the nostalgia glasses.
Fable 1 released about 2 years after I graduated high school so I wouldn't call it nostalgia goggles, and I felt that there were enough distractions and side quests in between the chicken chasing versus the epic final clash with the bad guy that I felt eased into it and grateful that a fantasy game was willing to take a risk with the light hearted moments instead of trying to be serious business
Fabe 1 is a universally beloved timeless cult classic. It's just not the game from its marketing campaign, and the creator completely failed to capture the same magic again (aside from that chicken trailer for the third game).
To be fair Fable 2 is definitely a step up from Fable 1 imo for player choice. It's really only Fable 3 that devours massive amounts of ass
Along with FNV and TW2, one of the games with the most reactivity of all time. Shame Sega fricked-up the project's development.
In their earliest release footage, they talked about wysiwyg. Not having any bs dice-rolls to decide accuracy. It's shooter mechanics.
moronic nipponese who sucks at shooters had them change it. This resulted in the shitty
>wait to shoot
mechanic.
>Ex-KGB guy offers a proposal
>One of the dialogue options is "Proposal?"
Now guess what Thorton actually says if you pick this:
A) Asks for the terms of the proposal
B) Asks why the guy would think to make a proposal
C) Gives his own counter proposal
D) Makes a "lmao u gay for proposing to a man" joke
>Same convo, the KGB guy says he is acquainted with the mafia boss you are about to confront
>Dialogue option "Dealings?"
>If you pick this Thorton will shit all over the KGB guy for being stupid and wearing bad clothes
This is like a parody of Mass Effect at times
The positions of the dialog options are consistent between suave/aggressive/professional, so you do know what stance you're taking
i stand by that this game would be way less hated if it weren't for one (1) bad dungeon. smt dungeon crawling at it's finest.
It really isn't good. The only reason to play 1 & 2 were their stories, the combat and exploration was bad even for the time (and I say this as someone who likes first person dungeon crawlers). Remove the compelling plot and throw in really weird ass-backwards mechanics like
>having to refuse the first person who asks to join you to get the true final boss
>the guardian system making you need to die to get new skills
>the world of sloth
>the MC having magic skills from guardians that but for some reason they don't have access to
>literal asset flip before it was commonplace, vast majority of music and sprites stolen from 1 & 2
and it's a recipe for a genuinely bad RPG.
>t. played up until the world of wrath on Charlie's route, got bored
>1&2 only good for story
exceptionally hard disagree
Yep. World of Sloth is cancerously bad but the rest of the game is good.
I think an underrated element of why people hate If is how annoying the intro in the school is, having to run around trying to find the next plot flag makes people run out of patience for an old SNES game fast
>harkens back to old-school playground rumors with the secrets and bosskilling methods
>good writing, hated because it comes from a toad and not a Blibity Sclunko from the Frunkle kingdom
>combat is unique and the lack of progression allows you to skip it if you want
>contender for the best OST in the series, extremely bright and colorful like the game itself
>side content and missions that aren't literally rock paper scissors matches or backtracking simulators
>actually fun level design
It's one of the best RPGs on the system imo. I still replay it from time to time
Best bait I've ever seen holy shit.
Hint: it's because I'm being genuine 🙂
I will die on the hill that Sticker Star is a good game. Keep in mind the paper mario community is mostly composed of children and trannies, and they are the ones who hate this game so much.
I would advise interested parties to go into it with an open mind.
I like Persona 1 a lot and I think a lot of the people who talk shit about it have probably never played it
Yeah, you basically just took the words out of my mouth. Love Alpha Protocol, better than Mass Effect, actually had real endings, just spittin' facts here.
Problem with AP is it requires multiple replays to really shine, and there were cases at launch when people blatantly didn't even finish Saudi Arabia aka tutorial before writing their reviews.
Dark souls 2, wasn't burned out on souls yet and had time to play it.
Alpha Protocol needed at least another year in development. It would've been an all-time great RPG, but instead Sega rushed it out the door because of Obsidian's incompetence.
It had been delayed before and was already embarrassing because it mimicked mass effect 1 systems and gameplay after mass effect 2 had already come out. Can't really blame sega for obsidian robbing them
Lost Odyssey
People only hated it because it was a 360 exclusive, though.
Pathfinder Kingmaker...I absolutely love this game despite its flaws...no idea why it filtered Gankerermin so badly.
I like the game, but played it when it was done. I understand someone who played it at release being salty about it being unfinished and buggy.
If you're not into stats and build autism, there's not much else to like about the game.
>not into stats and build autism
weird way of saying you don't like RPGs
your tabletroony shit isn't rpgs
yeah bg3 and persona 5 is more suited to you I guess
buid autism, alignment autism and choice autism.....you can't atleast do two of them right you dun fricked up your rpg is shit.
>bg3
I already said your tabletroony shit isn't rpgs
well I was half right.... have fun playing shitsona 5 I guess.
What does roleplaying mean to you?