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this kinda killed my collector mindset. kinda wished i bought more of it on ps4 discs thatll always be around
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you can avoid disc rot by keeping your discs in storage boxes from Walmart
Stop treating your discs like shit, moron
I have PS1 discs that are literally over 20 years old and still work fine
Its easy To take care of your childhood toys if you never move out of your parents house. Unfortunately when people move out and things gets packed away they tend to get banged up. Nerd
Enjoy trying to emulate your games, moron.
I got CD's from the 90's that play just fine. People abuse their shit and are surprised when they begin to fail.
Fricking morons.
I have 11 year old discs working fine and I'm in a humid climate most often than not. I just use a disk case.
Really just depends on the materials used and manufacture quality. Some Xbox 360 discs are rotting like crazy while Sega CD discs are fine
Those I'm talking about are pirated PS2 ISOs flashed on DVDs. I'm assuming they aren't high quality if I had to take a guess.
Stop using sprayers and actually clean shit properly, the solvent they use goes through plastic as causes this even if your shit is in a case it WILL go right through it STAY AWAY FROM SPRAY SCENT SHIT LIKE FEBREEZE
My CD music collection from the 90-00s is fully functional down to the last disc
honestly who knows if we even exist in 20 years
You wont cuz you got vaxxed. You will die next year.
2 more weeks
Tumor weeks.
I have my money on Taiwan conflict spiraling out of control
Pringle turned tail and is marching on Moscow. Banana man will launch the nukes before he gets dethroned.
Two more weeks.
Most of you will die in your 50s with your drinking and sedentary lifestyles.
but I drink only water
Post body with timestamp.
Nah they'll probably last longer than that.
Nobody expected people to still be using their nes and genesis thirty years later either.
In fact the one part that is actually a problem on old carts is the save battery dying, and they can be easily replaced.
the entire switch cart will die.
Damn, I'm convinced.
From now on I'm only buying products from Nintendo's competitors.
lasted longer than my halo 2 steel case
It's just becoming more soulful with time. Bungie was truly on another level during that era.
do the carts just die at some point w/o use or wat?
Flash memory will degrade without being used. Literally the electrons (your data) "escape" from their gates through quantum tunneling.
If you just plug the cart in and play the game for a few minutes it'll get juiced back up and stay fresh for a few more years.
It depends on the chip construction and temperature how long it will take for the data to corrupt like that though.
But 20 years? That's a shorter shelf life than magnetic floppy discs which are rated for 30 years and routinely exceed that considering that FDS disks haven't universally shit themselves.
If anything switch cartridges are more resilient than older consoles like nes, snes, genesis, etc. I haven't heard of those ceasing function on mass yet? These people are insane claiming switch games aren't going to be the same
I'm not doing any "lol esl" bullshit, I'm not shitting on you in any way.
It's en masse.
Thank you, carry on.
and you base this assumption on what? yeah just ignore what is known about nand longevity, DUUUR NEWER THING HAS TO BE BETTER THAN OLDER THING
Off his ass, Mask ROMs are going to last well over 100 years. Switch games won't last 6.
The Switch is over 6 years old anon, launch copies of 1-2 switch should be going sudoku right now if your theory was correct
>launch copies of 1-2 switch
too bad no ones gonna bother playing it to find out lmao
Could be happening soon with the sequel coming out
Like I said, it partially depends on the chip construction. can't comment on how long Switch carts will last. Get in your time machine and tell us how long it takes.
The problem with magnetic tape is that it's flimsy and degrades easily. The actual data is physical and will stick around forever as long as you keep the tape physically intact (and don't expose it to magnetic fields).
No I get what you're saying. And obviously the lifetime in practice will typically exceed what it's rated for. I just have a hard time believing that the NAND flash would have such pitiful "official" longevity.
Think of it like CPU chip binning. They make everything 8 core chips, sell the ones that are fully functional 8 cores, then sell the ones which are only semi-functional as 4 core CPUs. They guarantee that it has four functional cores, that's it. Maybe your CPU was actually a luck one that has 7 functional cores (the remainder disabled) or it was actually a fully functional 8 core that they disabled because they needed more 4 core stock? It does not really matter, because they're selling it as a four core, so long as it has four cores, that's all that matters.
Apply the number of cores to be a metaphor for the amount of years of longevity in your product.
Here's a quick rundown:
With magnetic media, you only have to be paranoid about where you put it and whether it was made well in the first place. Dropping your phone next to a floppy disk could wipe it if it has a magnetic charging port, but should technically last indefinitely assuming no outside forces act upon it.
Optical media's data is burned to a film, usually pasted to the underside of the label. As long as the label remains intact, the data will remain readable unless you somehow frick it up with a high powered laser or accidentally try to (and successfully) write to it with your own optical media writer. Like magnetic storage, the longevity of optical storage depends on the quality of its manufacture and if it's subjected to a hostile environment. It can technically keep indefinitely.
But flash memory media uses general purpose electrically charged solid state components to store data and there's no real permanence because the logic gates aren't comprised of physical switches. If the captured charge becomes too weak, and there isn't enough consistency for error correcting algorithms to do their magic, your data will be corrupted. Imagine the captured charge like a bunch of lazy Black folk: they only pick cotton properly while their master and whip are present. When the master takes a break, they slow down and will eventually believe they're free, then flee.
Flash is really volatile storage in general.
This is incredibly stupid. EEPROM would be better.
Yeah, but EEPROM density is really low and flash is really cheap by comparison.
If anything, business like Nintendo are happier to have planned obsolescence built into their components naturally, rather than needing to deliberately engineer it.
>EEPROM
It's a strange sounding word, indeed!!
>Imagine the captured charge like a bunch of lazy Black folk: they only pick cotton properly while their master and whip are present. When the master takes a break, they slow down and will eventually believe they're free, then flee.
This is Ganker, I demand a food analogy
gotchu fampai
>Imagine the captured charge like wheat picked by some wetbacks, stored in a silo. No matter how dry or well conditioned the silo is, some and eventually all of the wheat will inevitably mold and degrade after some time, and must be cycled and replaced by freshly immigrant-harvested wheat to prevent total loss of the silo's contents.
consumer tech always are rated to 10-20 years. Enterprise grade electronics, for industrial and military are designed for longer lifespan with better NANDs. Sometimes you read clickbait articles ("There are people using outdated tech of 1980-1990") because the Enterprise hardware have a longer lifespan that software
I don't think nintendo would cheap out on something they know would become a pr nightmare twenty years down the line if they half-assed it, and judging from how much some third parties b***h hard about cart costs convinces me even more.
They sell hardware that breaks within months of regular use. They sell the switch lite with integrated joycons so when the drift inevitably happens the whole thing is trash. Why would you think Nintendo gives a shit about bad PR 20 years from now when they don't give a shit about the bad PR today?
Literally if you haven't kept your Wii U plugged in, it's likely dead now
I've bought a used wiiu last year and it works fine.
I was talking about the carts specifically, dipshits.
Joycons can be replaced, controllers and handhelds can be sent to nintendo or third party shops for repairs, and nobody gives a shit about the wiiu.
Carts have to work with 100% success 100% of the time.
People ARE going to give a shit if they take a pile of twenty physical switch games to a retro game store in twenty years and none of them work.
>and nobody gives a shit about the wiiu.
Not yet. It'll take about 5 more years for the first waves of nostalgia to crest.
It may not happen for Wii U because most of anything that people would care about was ported to Switch. There are like 4 exclusives worth a damn left on the thing.
It's really been that long already huh?
But like
said, nearly everything of value has already been ported off of it.
About the only things that haven't yet are twilight princess and wind waker, and they WILL come to either the switch or its successor eventually, I can 100% guarantee that.
I just don't know why they are holding out on xenoblade x. While not as monumental as having the entire pikmin series on one console (not including the 3ds one). That's just one odd missing piece.
>hurr just emulate xd.
Let me just fricking consoooooommmmn
There are like 30 or so known cases of this- and its speculatively tied to a singular variation/manufacturer of NAND that isn't standard in Wii Us.
just plugged it in after not using it for years, it's fine.
You're a bunch of moronic parrots that don't know what you're talking about.
>through quantum tunneling.
sounds like bullshit
I heard these two lines in their voices.
Quantum tunneling just means "oops that election wasn't supposed to go there". Think of it like trying to contain water in a canvas bag. It holds larger other objects without them leaking through, and it'll hold tiny objects like water too, but it has a tendency to leak through regardless.
Quantum tunnels just flew over my house!
Wow you're an actual moron. I can't believe they let you on the internet.
Quantum is just a word used when talking about things on an extremely micro scale.
It's not solely associated with theoretical mumbo jumbo.
This is due to the rotational velocidensity, correct?
TLDR it is unlikely it would happen in 20 years. Even shitty sd cards from yesteryear aren't generally this bad.
Is there actually a source for this? Sounds like bs.
There's not much going on with these things anyway when you aren't using them, I HIGHLY doubt this will actually happen and you are only spreading misinformation to scare these low iq shit posters.
>Literally the electrons (your data) "escape" from their gates through quantum tunneling.
just reading the data stored on them wears out the cells. do switch games store saves on the cart? if so then they will wear out even faster.
nintendo probably sees this as a plus. now you have to buy the same game again on their future consoles
No, thankfully the save data is saved to the console so at least they should last longer than DS games. And other than bad presses like Persona Q and PAL Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire I haven't seen anything about DS games dying en masse
are you gotta be playing those games tho? or are you collecting them as an collectible items
I collect vinyls but rarely listen to them, most I keep wrapped
Thats horrible listen to your fricking records
My switch collection is free and on an SD card.
You didn't beat those games
What difference will it make? Collectors don’t even play the games. How will they know?
Things that will last over 20 years however:
Switch battery
Dualsense battery
Windows 7 support
Wut? Is this true?
same shit happens with your SSDs and NVMes. HDD chads, we won
no it won't
We need to make this widespread so that the switch game price bubble will pop
By then i'll just emulate them, so i'm olay with that.
The fun memories will be there and Switch emu is already great. Things will be fine.
>Old gba and ds cartridges I keep like shit still work
In all likelihood nothing will happen for a long long time
It's why I dump a lot of physical games for my cash back or part of it back
I used to worry about this but the amount of times I've gone back to games 5th+ gen games that aren't the current generation is minimal. If I feel like retro, I'm doing NES or SNES, maybe GBA. If I want to play a modern game, I'll play something recent on my backlog. I just no longer care about anything in between. If it was good, it'll get remastered
If I care in 20 years I'll send a letter to the universe letting everyone know you were right.
In 20 years I'll be 39 and would have stopped playing games years ago so who cares.
This. I'll have long been married with kids by then and will likely stop caring about video games.
lol
I too remember being young and naive
>larping
You're both going to be sad, pathetic Gankerirgins for the rest of your lives just like the rest of us. Don't kid yourselves.
Well that sucks
good thing i collect mtg cards and not vidya!
>paid at best $19
>to grade a 49 cent card
>in the hopes that this extremely common card will be worth more one day
I don't know if this is a wise strategy, anon.
why would you even pay money for basically pic related
I'll never understand these sigma grindset collectors
I can admit that the idea behind having the quality of your item professionally graded seems like an attractive prospect. It proves to any curious party the authenticity of what you have.
OTOH, the various grading companies have proven themselves to be wildly inconsistent and in some cases damn near fraudulent. And of course the entire market that is propped up specifically by these companies only exists as long as the company is respected. It's a precarious basket to store apples in.
>mint 9
crack it open and send it again to try to get gem mint 10 or throw it out.
I have NES carts over 30 years old working fine.
nes carts are not the same as switch carts
>nes carts are not the same as switch carts
QRD?
NES carts, and carts up to the GBA era, are memory chips like what you put in your PC, but read-only. Carts from the DS and up are just glorified SD cards.
Those are actual ROMs
Switch carts are basically SD cards that have been set to read only via software configuration
But I've never seen or heard of an sd card failing?
How many frickers on this site are still going to be around here in 2043 assuming it doesn't get purged
Probably me
I'm a late 2017 newbie and in almost six years haven't found any better place to chat online, even if a lot of Ganker is shit.
I'll be laughing when 20 years later, the games still work
>Waifu Uncovered
>stores them sideways
>in no particular order
just buildin a fort or smthin?
That's a lot of ports
Either you bought those and have no time to play them or you have plenty of time to play them. Either way, it's pretty sad.
Whoever took that picture needs to seek help. That's 15-20k worth of games there, almost entirely multiplats, that nintendo's going to take a torch to at some point or another. I have a collection 3 times as big on pc that play better and I have more control over for 1/20th that price, not including emulation. Exclusives are whatever, you want to pay a premium instead of emulating go for it, but anyone using a console for multiplats has brain damage and is wasting a shitload of money for a worse experience.
You can't take your PC on the go.
>but muh steam deck
Not even as good as the Switch. It would have to at least have modular controllers for that to be true.
>but muh steam deck
Yes, muh steam deck. I can take all those games on the go, install them on any system I want.
>It would have to at least have modular controllers for that to be true
>implying any modular controller you attach to your switch is going to be better than what the deck comes with by default or all the other controllers you can just plug into the deck
Stick to your oled shitpost, it's all you got.
>Steam client goes down
Nice "collection"
Even if gayben goes full evil and kills steam, I'd just pirate all my games right back. I use steam for convenience and it's worked out just fine for me for the past 15 years, never had a single game left behind.
Nevermind the fact that my emulation collection is twice as big as the games I've paid for with how easy it is to just download an entire system's catalogue, so I would say that is also a nice collection.
Your steam collection is worthless.
I spent far less money on it than you'll ever get back selling off and losing access to all your games. I buy games to play games, not keep them mint hoping for some future investment at the expense of being able to play them. You want to do that buy some baseball cards or something.
NINTENDO DESERVES ALL YOUR MONEY
I swear to god the switch 2 better fricking have backwards compatibility for physical and digital
Or what?
What's going to be the long-term solution for Switch preservation? It's the most sold console of all time, and has a pretty fierce collector's market. Surely something will come about
The same way every system is preserved, Pinky.
Careful curation and humidity-free rooms?
>What's going to be the long-term solution for Switch preservation?
Play EACH of your Switch games every year for a few minutes. Like an Anon said, if you don't play them they die.
I have over 80 physical switch games, that's going to be a pain in the ass. I also have my cases in protective bags so they don't get shelf wear, the clear plastic scuffs really easily
I wonder if there's a good "holds a bunch of game cards at once" case for the switch because all i see are either shitty foam or PVC sleeves
These magnetic acrylic card cases are alright.
I'm cracking up thinking about some Retrobit accessory coming down the line that's just a giant box with a hundred Switch game slots designed to recharge people's libraries all at once.
kek I thought the same shit, like an usb hub but for Switch games
Some of those retro accessories are pretty legit; one really great one was an optical SNES mouse so you don't need the shitty ball mouse for Mario Paint/Mario and Wario
remake those 20 year old games
In twenty years I'll be fifty one
any switch game not played for about 8-10 years will stop working. It's a dead-end console, thankfully all of its games are multiplats and ultimately none are anything special.
It'll likely die with the system anyway. Backwards compatibility is a massive loss for nintendo for no reason when they could just sell ports and remasters over and over again every generation.
You'll be seething about this fricking system 20 years from now.
The irony about the whole thing is that if it's true that playing the games extends their lifespan then sealed copies will get hit first but nobody will know it until it's too late and they're all toast.
What does that do to the collector's market? A used game, sure, you can test. But would sealed collectors be willing to pay for Shrodinger's Mario Kart or whatever?
nobody cares about plastic boxes. emulators exist morons
Emulator gays having to spurt there opinion in anything to do with collecting and gaming hardware are the vegans of nerds. If you like emulating so fricking much then go in an emulation thread, not a thread about physical hardware you stupid frick
Savior complex.
It's more like it's just baffling how people waste their money on a corporation that's going to frick them over when far better alternatives exist. It'd be one thing if you at least got a digital key with your physical purchase and there was a guarantee of backwards compatibility, but goddamn do people just enjoy spending shitloads of money to get fricked by a corporation or what. And then they get super offended over it when that fact is pointed out.
Like if they just want to support the exclusives, sure okay, exclusives are cancer but whatever, someone needs to spend money on them or they'll stop getting made. But at least don't bend over for multiplats.
You gays make these shitposts every single day either grossly exaggerating the fragility of physical media or spewing outright misinformation in order to try and sell people on your way of life. It's disgusting. 99% of the time you're not getting yourself fricked by buying a physical disc or cartridge. The actual fact is the vast majority of physical games will outlive everyone in this thread so long as they're well taken care of, which is not difficult at all seeing as discs and cartridges aren't nearly as fragile as shit like tape and film.
Don't mistake that as me turning my nose up at the merits of digital preservation. Rom sites are doing god's work as far as I'm concerned and if you feel the physical market is just too expensive to be worth it, then by all means go ahead and emulate everything. But the more you keep trying to convert people who are perfectly happy with their physical collections by butting in with your moronic garbage posts, the more emulatorgays are gonna be compared unflatteringly to vegans. And for frick's sake man this is Ganker nearly everyone here has emulated a game at least once in their lives. I'm 33 and I've been emulating as far back at the nineties when I was eight years old, I just like collecting.
I've literally had my hardware and games die. Yes, your switch is far more likely to die before your games do, but that means having to buy another switch every time that happens and after they stop making them that's going to become a more and more common occurrence. So it's more a matter what happens first, you stop buying the hardware that can play your games or your games stop working. Neither are great outcomes. This is not some what if bogeyman, it's an inevitability. Unless you can freely back up your games, you're on borrowed time.
You talk about disgust and how dare someone come in here saying they could save money and have far more control over their games, but for me it's more about how disgusting these corporations treat their consumers knowing they'll not only get away with it but defended for doing so. There is no good reason why nintendo can't tie your games to an account and guarantee that you will be able to download and play them on all their future hardware. None, besides money. Far as I'm concerned supporting physical is just supporting shitty business practices that hurt everyone, so forgive me if I don't care how angry people get when I point all this out.
every single one of my physical games since the NES days still works including the hardware.
Every single one of the switch games will work in 20 years except for the saving system.
Keep been disingenuous and keep being poor.
Good for you, but if you've bought any gameboy games those are dead. If you had any digital games on the ds, 3ds, wii, or wii u, those are also likely dead. I know mine are.
You can cope about it until you're blue in the face, but you have no control and your systems will inevitably die.
>Keep been disingenuous and keep being poor
The irony.
>And I've had a 3DS game shit itself for literally no reason, doesn't make your bullshit any more valid or any less annoying
Props for admitting it, but if you've had that happen you should know where I'm coming from.
>My disgust is that yet again
I don't think you'd be this angry about it if you didn't know full well what I was saying was true. You're simply grappling with the facts and don't like it. You're right though that I am being a pest. I don't have any respect for anyone amassing these collections as again they hurt everyone with this mindless consumer behavior so I really don't care if I upset them and arguing about it is fun.
>but that's a hell of a lot more work
I don't care. I'm not going to go to bat defending a corporation because they'd have to put some work in to not screw their consumers over. They don't get a pass just because they know they have their fans so whipped that they've either accepted and don't question it or actively defend it. They have full control over their hardware, they can plan for it, they've done it before, they have no excuses. Unless they do that, PC will always be the superior consumer friendly option.
>Buying physical isn't encouraging the death of backwards compatibility
It wouldn't be if they at least tied those games to your account, but they don't. Which ironically they used to, but then they killed that whole club nintendo system out of nowhere without anything coming of it just because they could. But not like it matters right now anyway because as it stands even all those digital games will die with the system too.
everything will die and worrying for something that might happen is beyond pitiful. Try not going into threads you don't like.
I prefer things not die well within my lifetime especially when the only reason they die is because a corporation wants to sell them back to me over and over again.
>if you've had that happen you should know where I'm coming from
I do, it can hurt to have something you paid for just become inert one day, but I'm not going to let paranoia over it stop me from doing something I love.
>I don't think you'd be this angry about it if you didn't know full well what I was saying was true. You're simply grappling with the facts and don't like it.
I'm this angry about it because we have these threads every mother fricking day and you homosexuals always act smug as shit. Just like you're doing now, in fact. No, what you're saying is not true. You grossly exaggerate and some of you spew outright lies. Honestly surprised that old gem about day 1 patches hasn't been dropped yet, so props for not going that far I guess.
>I'm not going to go to bat defending a corporation because they'd have to put some work in to not screw their consumers over.
"Some work", lol you really have no idea, do you? It can take a dedicated team months to port a game from one piece of hardware to another. Now try applying that to an entire library. It would be a monumental task that would never see a return. Not to mention it wouldn't finish before the new hardware itself was retired. We're talking libraries in the thousands. No, it's just not reasonable in any respect, I'm sorry you're too stubborn to admit that.
>It wouldn't be if they at least tied those games to your account
Do you listen to the shit you suggest? That would kill the second hand market. Microsoft already tried to do that, even. The Xbox brand nearly died because of it. Club Nintendo had nothing to do with digital games, by the way. It was a rewards program. Did you even use it?
>all those digital games will die with the system too
Maybe, maybe not. Depends on what Nintendo's next hardware is like. Historically they've included BC if it's feasible. The only reason it's ever been dropped in a shift from one gen to another is if it's not.
>on model hex of truth
>stop me from doing something I love
If you just love the act of collecting in and of itself than more power to you I suppose. It's not something I can understand, I'm speaking purely from being burned on the buying and playing these games side of things.
>day 1 patches
I don't really care about those or see how it's all that relevant so yeah I wouldn't bring it up.
>"Some work", lol you really have no idea, do you?
I don't think you do and again I'm not interested in defending a corporation here. It is not hard for them to create an emulator if need be. They have everything they need. If random unrelated hobbyists can do it, nintendo can do it. And if they simply plan for backwards compatibility to be a core feature going forward I'm sure they can create architecture that works natively. They don't because again they just want to sell you these games over and over again, or have you buy into a rental service.
>Do you listen to the shit you suggest? That would kill the second hand market
Nintendo hates the second hand market anyway, they don't see a dime from it, but I suppose there'd be nothing stopping someone from selling the cartridge after getting the key. So maybe the key can only become active on future systems where it can download the game while the cartridge is needed for the current system. Who knows, I'm sure they could come up with something if they wanted to do right by their consumers while keep physical around for whatever reason.
>Club Nintendo had nothing to do with digital games, by the way
Games came with a key that you got points from. Used to actually get some decent rewards from those points too instead of this trash new service. They knew you bought those games and it was tied to your account. They could've easily done something with that instead of killing it.
>Maybe, maybe not.
It's not a maybe, it's a when. You are at the mercy of locked down hardware. At the very least dump your roms for personal use.
>It's not something I can understand
It's sure not for everyone, I'll say that. Which is why on my end I'm not opposed to the existence of emulators or digitalgays.
>I don't really care about those or see how it's all that relevant so yeah I wouldn't bring it up.
It's a nonsense argument digitalgays love to use to claim that physical copies are no different from their digital cuckery.
>It is not hard for them to create an emulator if need be. They have everything they need.
The hardware power necessary to support emulating a Wii U and the gamepad functionality that numerous Wii U games utilized. Emulators aren't magic and even with the most intimate knowledge of the platform you're emulating, there's still hardware limitations to be mindful of.
>Nintendo hates the second hand market anyways
The whole industry does, but it's a necessary "evil." Funnily enough, digital distribution also aims to change this. But as things are, you can't challenge the second hand market without pissing off pretty much all of your consumer base. People at least like the OPTION of buying discs, even if they never use it. Interesting psychology, isn't it?
>They could've easily done something with that instead of killing it.
People traded and sold those keys like currency. What you're suggesting is turning something that was never intended as a backup service... into a backup service. And no matter what implementation, someone's getting fricked. Either us or them.
>It's not a maybe, it's a when.
It's still a maybe. You said those downloads would "die with the system", which is presumably the current gen Nintendo Switch. There's no guarantee whether or not they'll dump BC with the Switch 2. Depends on the hardware they go with. Now if you meant just eventually somewhere down the line, yeah, probably. No one supports shit forever.
If I'm ever in need of a rom I'll just go to one of the many rom sites I have no opposition whatsoever to existing and download it. Frick text limtis btw
>I've literally had my hardware and games die.
And I've had a 3DS game shit itself for literally no reason, doesn't make your bullshit any more valid or any less annoying.
>Yes, your switch is far more likely to die before your games do, but that means having to buy another switch every time that happens and after they stop making them that's going to become a more and more common occurrence.
There's over 120m Switches out in the wild now, which means after the platform retires they'll be easy as shit to find for decades. You know what else will be easy to find? Parts to repair Switches. That's the great thing about a platform that's sold a ton, there'll be spare parts for it on the market for decades to come. But that even assumes Switches are so fragile that they'll be breaking real easily to begin with. They won't. Yes, yes, I know, the joycons are shit, but the rest of it is pretty solidly built. The only thing that really worries me is the NAND and thankfully that's replaceable.
My disgust is that yet again you've spewed bullshit and half truths to try and sell your particular brand of consumption, but of course you justify it like you're totally doing people a favor when all you're doing is being a pest.
>There is no good reason why nintendo can't tie your games to an account and guarantee that you will be able to download and play them on all their future hardware.
There's actually a couple good reasons. Remember how the PS4 can't play PS3 games? It's because the hardware inside is so different that it's not workable. Same shit between the Wii U and Switch. You can port games, sure, but that's a hell of a lot more work. You're literally asking them to do it for free because that's how you feel it should be. And sure, it'd be nice, but you're moronic for vilifying them for not.
Buying physical isn't encouraging the death of backwards compatibility, that's just another disingenuous claim.
you sound mad so I came here to make fun of you
hardware, disks and memories die all the time
you're an idiot
if you want to have stuff 20 years from now you have to copy them digitally and store back-ups which you refresh every few years. anything else is random chance
>not a single counterpoint
I accept your concession.
>dinosaur-wiping meteor falls on your house
>lose collection
heh, emulatorCHADS win again
I bet the deceased carts CiB will still be worth money. Still don't see how I'm losing here.
I'll die a few years later so who cares
You ok bro
>These 8 track tapes will never be obsolete media
>These cassettes will never be obsolete media
>These compact discs will never be obsolete media
>These DVDs will never be obsolete media
>These blurays will never be obsolete media
>These nand carts will never be obsolete media
ok but blu-rays aren't obsolete unless you specifically mean ps3/4 games
Not yet, very soon. They were already going away, but Covid absolutely obliterated film sales. Not just on discs, but even now after the pandemic theaters are closing left and right and even a blockbuster like guardians is getting 1/3 of what it would have gotten in 2019. Telling everyone not to go outside for two years was the death knell of physical media.
>emuNAND which completely bypasses the internal NAND
>CFW
Nah, I'll be fine.
Nostalgia itself is going to change. More than 50% of all game sales are digital nowadays and people are buying fewer physical games period. Microsoft recently admitted that Gamepass has hurt game sales. Zoomers aren't going to get the same feels from shelves of games the way Millennials do. And Gen Alpha probably will never even know what a physical game is. Collecting them will seem like some stone age nonsense.
To anyone thinking 20 years is a long time, the Wii is already 17 years old.
Anyone old enough, according to the ESRB, to play GTA3 at release is at least 40.
Stop it.
I've had big hit and miss with my hardware over the years. N64 still works, gameboy advance still works, 2 gamecubes dead, wii still works, ds and 3ds both dead, wii u dead. I don't think my switch will last considering I've already dealt with drift twice and nintendo wanted to pretend drift wasn't real for years.
we will all die and lose our games forever
I stopped collecting when i realised minimalism is a good pursuit. I think aesthetic is important and media collections arent nice.
Just in time to buy the exciting remakes!
>emulation exists already
I don't care.
good thing my "collection" is pirated roms
Where get rom?
so many bad faith reddit Black folk
Tell me why an Atari 2600 chips still work today?
Who cares? Everything in my collection is graded and never going to be opened anyway.
My piracy collection will last until the collapse of society