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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What campaigns are actually good? I have 1100 hours and barely touched, them only have done the Japanese campaigns. Tried the El Cid campaign and didn't like it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      all of them are good, attila is the best

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Burgundian is kino, but most are good. The only truly terrible ones are Tariq ibn Ziyad, Le Loi and Pachacuti.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Let first start from the question why didn't you like El Cid campaign?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        not him but El Cid campaign has aged terribly and didn't do a great job of portraying El Cid by having conquistadors and bombard towers everywhere. Not as bad as Hastings and Agincourt though.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Tbh all the Conquerors battles are piss easy. I played Manzikert for the first time in years earlier and it was so anticlimactic. It was literally:

          >Fire one trebuchet shot at a few town centres so they ally with you
          >Spawn some cav archers and camels
          >Attack the Byzantines
          >Job done

          Now the Forgotten battles, on the other hand. They are all absolute works of art.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            the original scenarios were designed with 800 x 640 resolutions and 75 pop limits being the max a computer could handle in mind. They're practically a different game.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Joan of Arc, Saladin, Ghengis Khan, Attilla the Hun, Montezuma, Sundjata, Yodit and Bayinnaung

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Joan of Arc is chronologically one of the latest campaigns in AoE2 and the French army under Joan was famed for its effective use of cannons in sieges
        >most of the missions lock you in castle age so you can't even use trebs, let alone cannons
        I'll never not be annoyed by this

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The newest are fun. The original ones are lame. Start with the Khans, they are the most fun by far.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >didn't shed a tear when his dead body is propped on the horse to motivate the soldiers

      ABSOLUTE fricking pleb

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Japanese campaigns
      ??

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I think he's talking about the Kyoto mission. Not a campaign but still related i guess.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Atilla is absolute kino, so is Jadviga

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The new Rajendra campaign is my fave so far

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The classic ones from the original AoE 2 and The Conquerors are probably the best, especially Atilla, Genghis Khan, Barbarossa and Saladin.

      I'm a huge fan of the historical battles though. Also there are some amazing custom campaigns, especially Apranik and Belisarius.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Start with the Ensemble Studios campaigns for AoK and AoC, most of them are golden if a bit too easy. I agree that El Cid is probably the weakest of the bunch except for the fun cutscenes and dialogue. You could always check out Ornlu's campaign tier list, he goes really in depth.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Dawn of the Dukes did a really cool thing where you go chronologically through the ages for lithuania, then poland, then bohemia, with recurring characters and interconnected storyline.
      Its been some of the most kino RTS storytelling I've ever played.

      Lord of the West campaign for England was also really fun, especially the defense of jerusalem mission where you have to dead ass fend off endless muslim hordes. Really did an amazing job capturing the 'surrounded and outnumbered' feel.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        My only complaint is that the Poland scenarios are a little "too" well designed. The mechanics in those scenarios don't appear anywhere else, like the day/night, or leveling up heroes.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This post is like a month old but I'd think AoK + AoC and most of DE's campaigns (including the DLCs) are generally the better ones holistically. The rest vary a lot in quality, some of the worse campaigns are just a bit dry.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Started playing recently. Completed so far the two tutorial campaigns, Joan of Arc and the two first scenarios of Saladin. Going through Horns of Hattin later today. I'm playing on Hard. So far it has been smooth sailing, no roadblocks, just that some missions are very time consuming. Has anyone here completed everything on this difficulty? Am I for a world of pain later?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Am I for a world of pain later?
        Depends on the campaign. I think Bohemians Prague mission is the hardest one on the highest difficulty but I haven't played through them all. Others I didn't find too bad even on the highest difficulty.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I did not find Hard AI behavior any different from Moderate when it comes to aggressiveness or tactics. The differences that I did notice are
          >AI is more stubborn and doesn't resign easily
          >AI actually bothers to upgrade their units
          >AI gets more stuff (more resources, extra castles and towers), while the player gets less
          >AI has more villagers

          Nothing that actually makes a real difference, difficultywise

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Just FYI, the AI in skirmish never cheat, they're just really good

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              This is a lie. They can see everything near their base.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >citation needed

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I have the game, dumbass. I tried to wall their berries. Checked the replay. Out of LOS, but they immediately sent multiple vills to fight when they'd, in that same situation, repeatedly only send villagers once they were ready to put down a mill for berries.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Japs don't have a campaign.
      But Genghis Khan, Tamerlane, The Grand Dukes of the West and Jadwiga are all great.
      Peple also usually recommend Barbarossa, Attila, Kotyan Khan and Hautevilles.
      My rather unpopular take is that Saladin and Montezuma are both very good.
      But avoid all Rise of Rajas and African Kangdoms. Those consist of boring grindfest against multiple enemies with infinite resources.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >But avoid all Rise of Rajas and African Kangdoms
        Agreed except the Portuguese campaign. That one is pretty fun and different.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, true. Francisco is a good and unorthodox campaign.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Bayinnaung got improved a lot with the Indian dlc and the Gajah Mada one is ok tbh. Le Loi, Tariq and Yodit chug balls.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Francisco de Almeida
      Sforza
      Bari
      Gajah Mada (Mission 5 is aids though and melee unit pathing completely craps out in the city which really fricks with playing a spam faction.)

      Generally Med campaigns are usually pretty fun. The first three also teach you one important lesson; never trust a fricking Venetian. Francisco de Almeida is my favorite so far, it's comfy world exploration.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Viper gets less than a 10th of his views on the youtube channel since he switched to AoE4, hold me bros

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's ok bro, he is coming back to AoE2 tomorrow after failing to win big at AoE4. I'm even suspecting he lost Golden League because his head was already at AoE2. Dude was on stream last week saying he watched the Resurgence with his friends on discord and how much he missed team games with his AoE2 teammates.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        he lost a big tourny? a final?

        >ow much he missed team games with his AoE2 teammates.
        yeah he had some kino nomad teamgames series right before he switched

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >a final?
          He got 3rd place.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            tab back in Hera, you will always be discount biper

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Dunno why you think I like Hera when I'm just saying Viper was having AoE2 withdrawals. Viper got at least 3rd on the latest big event, Hera got rekt so hard he went to LoL and then back to AoE2.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's ok bro, he is coming back to AoE2 tomorrow after failing to win big at AoE4. I'm even suspecting he lost Golden League because his head was already at AoE2. Dude was on stream last week saying he watched the Resurgence with his friends on discord and how much he missed team games with his AoE2 teammates.

      he lost a big tourny? a final?

      >ow much he missed team games with his AoE2 teammates.
      yeah he had some kino nomad teamgames series right before he switched

      >video game celebs
      Yawn.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      holy shit vipey is back a day after I posted this

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        BUILT FOR BIG HUSSAR wiener

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        prepare for my big ram m'lady

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >no exceptions
        god fricking dammit when must you make me coom to my childhood game ;_;

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ornlu is the best AOE2 Youtuber anyway.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Wish there was more campaigns/scenarios where you dab on the steppeBlack folk. The devs clearly think the Mongols and Tatars were ebin badasses and they glorify them. Give us an Ain Jalut scenario, or a campaign about the Japanese fending the Mongols off.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Frick you houseBlack person, horse nomads 4 life.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >be me
    >que ranked
    >arena, random berbers, opponent is goths
    >beat him by 1 tc imp play
    >go to unranked to relax
    >que with the same idiot that deletes his vills and tc at the start of the game sveral times

    what is wrong with some people

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      another one just now
      >be me
      >randomed burgundian
      >vs a teuton
      >get rekt by his knight spam, opponent declares he won
      >give me the good old FU
      >he leaves me to do his meme boom thinking he will do the final blow
      >he sends out a wave of champions for some reason thinking he can take me by surprise
      >little did he know I started making archery ranges
      >start spamming HC
      >they shred his champion wave and I push up to his base
      >gives me the ggwp and quits

      So yeah burgundian HC are underrated, seem to do fine even against knight spam

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Once I forgot loom after drushing. Got to castle age with like -10 vills. He never stepped on the gas so I make monks knights, convert his knights, convert his stables, ram down TCs. He makes useless castles and tries to take my gold because his isn't safe, I convert his villager and make a stable to kill everything he makes there. In the end I had like 50 villagers and cavaliers killing all his eco. He didn't gg because he was mad he sucked so much

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      how do you get it this zoomed out?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I think alt or ctrl+ mouse wheel down

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How do I get these small trees

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        There are numerous mods you can use for that

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >small trees
      Just play AoE 1 then.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Be me
    >usually go random for 1v1s
    >Nomad in rotation, always get "random" huns
    >Always play against Spanish players
    >Say frick it, go Sicilians
    >make everyone rage quit with castle drops
    Can't wait for land nomad tbh

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    is mid elo 12XX-14XX always like this?

    >land madness, randomed burgundians
    >opponent pics berber, think nothing of it
    >straight away comes with a vill and lames my deer
    >kill an unloomed vill that was hanging out around my berries
    >he lames my boar with a vill, intercept the vill and kill
    >he sends another vill to lame, this time it escpaes, but two minutes after I see the board returning
    >keeps sending vills abusing the berber bonus
    >make wheelbarrow in dark age because why not
    >he makes a lumber camp next to mine
    >feudal age arrives for me, not for him, he tries to douche me, prop up a tower that tips the balance for me in the TC war, I keep pumping vills while he sloply lets vills get killed

    felt so good when he resigned and called him out

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      checked the replay and he even lamed 5 of my sheeps

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      last time i played some guy was walling in my berries and boars and shit, was so happy when i won was 100% focused out of pure rage

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      why are you so salty?
      tourneygays truly are mentally ill

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >DOODE IT'S JUST A GAME HOW DARE YOU CALL OUT PLAYERS FOR USING DISHONEST STRATEGIES THAT ARE NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF THE GAME
        don't reply to me ever again unranked scum

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >dishonest strategies
          >"not in spirit of game"
          lol get good and whine less homosexual loser

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            have a nice day

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      talk about a sore winner lol

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I still get a dopamine rush even when today when thinking about it
        he fricked up against the wrong civ, wheelbarrow nullified his ebin sonic vills, and I did the eco upgrades way early, meaning my lumber gathering could sustain a TC repair 20% better than his

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          if him playing like that directly lead to you having such an enjoyable and memorable game retrospectively do you really think it was necessary to cuss him out?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Be glad it was berbers and not viets, he would have sent vills from the very start of the game
      But yes, sadly theres nothing i can say but get good, and this time im not even shitposting nor bantering.
      As soon as the game starts, scout the front of your base, the one facing the enemy, then explore the flanks. Dont wander too far with sheep scouting.
      I always get loom at my 6th villager and lure boar
      Dont get greedy dont lure deers.
      Dont hesitate to put down outposts.
      As soon you find both boars go scout the enemy base and see if he has an early barracks, if hes drushing or not
      Yes these players are a massive pain in the ass but a man gotta do what he gotta do

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >get good

        >I always get loom at my 6th villager and lure boar
        >Dont get greedy dont lure deers.

        What did you mean by this?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The guy cannot lame your boar if you take it before he gets to it
          While luring deers is objectively good, you are completely blind to what the enemy is doing, if you get drushed when luring deer it will set you back a lot

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I think he's more confused over needing loom to lure the boars.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Oh, that, safety measure, if the guy sends his scout to try to lame your boar, but then finds you luring it, then he can try attack the luring villager. Actually happened to me once.
              Also he wont hesitate to attack lone loomless vills, or drush you.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >I always get loom at my 6th villager and lure boar

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    1100-1200 elo experience:

    >vils overchop a tree
    >cav runs in, kills everything
    >TCs garrisons 15 pop, the arrows are absolutely useless

    >archer gay runs around and keeps sniping my vills
    >skirms don't work, mangonels don't work, cav doesn't work, even 125 stone towers don't work bc of min range

    >castle drops almost every game

    That's it, uninstalled and won't be coming back in a long time (hopefully, since this is like the 4th time in the last month). Honestly, frick this bullshit frickin game. I literally had a nightmare about it last night (the opponent was rushing me and countered my every defense) and I woke up at 4 am and couldn't fall asleep again Bye "homosexual knight-archer-castle for 20 years" game.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Holy skill issue.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ever hear of walling?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's for pussies. Even Viper doesn't use walls most of the time.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Even Viper
          >Even
          Viper is a top 2 all time AoE player and is more than capable of quick walling if his vills get pressured.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The sweet spot with archergays is when you get to castle age earlier, get +1 knights out and skirms, if you see a small group of archers fleeing send a knight or two, if he heavily invests in skirmishers knights do a lot of damage

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Just be a shitterchad like me a keep sucking at the game until you derank and play with other mentally handicapped mongoloids.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Hindustanis are ultra fricking OP. They are now my go-to civ if I want to win a game. My winrate with them is probably like 85%, maybe higher. If I get to castle age and have enough gold, it's over for the other guy.
      >archergays fricked
      >knightgays fricked
      They got a counter for every fricking thing AND their counters actually do damage on their own. They have the best camels in the game and ghulams cover their every weakness. Probably the best hc in the game too. Great eco and good hussars for raiding when you run out of gold.They even got nice architecture tbh.

      this was me when i got bored of based hindus and kept losing, back on track now

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Have you tried playing Persians/Celts/Vietnamese/Goths/Byzantines/Lithuanians/Tatars/Gurjaras?
      idk sounds like a personal problem, there are so fricking many anti-archer civs

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Pidgeonholing someone into anti-archer civs instead of listing fundamental strats
        Despicable.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      just do like me and have that 1 friend on steam who is equally bad with and we keep playing against each other while taunting each other on discord
      for variety we team up against a bunch of AI
      random map random civs always

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Still can't get through Lake Poyang. That whole scenario is basically:

    >Herro! You save shipment! You save shipment with rittle time to get resource! Save shipment from big China navy with vely rittle ship!"

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Socotra 1v1s
    Onto the ban list it goes.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >favor arena in team games
      >favor socotra in 1v1

      I am but a simple man

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >favor arena in team games
      >favor socotra in 1v1

      I am but a simple man

      >socotra
      >7 ai
      >tiny
      >start game
      >try to build a starting house
      >huge vilfight with two ais at once that never stops and just keeps escalating for the rest of the game
      >same settings but arena
      >my TC is halfway through a wall and half my vils are standed between other walls
      I've always played with so fricked settings that when I started playing multiplayer meta builds meant nothing to me.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >que for unranked game
    >pairs me up wit a guy 500 elo above

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's why ranked exists.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Play team game
        >chink 4 stack
        >2k
        >2k
        >2k
        >unranked

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >mid elo talking shit
    Lmk when you get out of the baby leagues

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      cope troon

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You nees to be 18+ to post here.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    vills with loom are so strong it's insane
    >beats dark age scout 1 on 1
    >beats militia 1 on 1
    >beats feudal age upgraded skirm 1 on 1
    >beats feudal age upgraded spear 1 on 1

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >get btfo by someone using average player tactics
    >cry on Ganker about it
    Yikes.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    So does this mean that PS5 sucks? Never had any gaming console only pc

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What is this autism that drives someone into acting like a moron, getting called out on it and then posting basedjaks over and over again
    I'm genuinely almost impressed

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    [...]

    What's your favourite civ?
    What's your favourite campaign?
    Who's your favourite pro?
    What is your fetish?
    Thoughts on the DoI expansion?
    What's your favourite unique unit?
    What's your favourite unique tech?
    What's your favourite architecture style?
    What do you think about Steppe Lancers?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      NTA but
      >Bulgars
      >Grand Dukes
      >Haven't watched any pros in ages so can't say
      >Futanari
      >8/10
      >Ballista Elephant
      >Bagains
      >Middle Eastern
      >Buffs when

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >food intensive opener like scouts or FC knights
    >eat absolute shit if the opponent fends off or counters my strategy, since my boom food went into these units
    >eat absolute shit if the opponent cheeses me with a dumb power spike like a Spanish castle drop, because I don't have a key advantage against cheese which is a better eco
    >eat absolute shit if this is a patch where for some reason melee unit pathfinding is even more slow and moronic than usual

    vs

    >drush or m@a into archers, or even naked archers
    >have a shit-ton of leftover food to boom and tech while still having an army
    >can defend a ton of cheese just by virtue of having ranged units and the wood/gold income for siege
    >don't have to hit the panic button if the other guy walls out my initial army, can often outright harass through walls
    >counter most Black person cheese UUs like conqs and arambai out of hand
    >counter your composition's counter (skirms) out of hand because you can make skirms yourself without tech switching

    There is ZERO (0) (zero) reason not to be archer-pilled on literally any map except a full water map, in which case you must be galley-pilled. Prove me wrong. The complete worthlessness of CA infantry and the way Feudal and CA cavalry has been steadily declining in use make for an overwhelming body of evidence. Maybe the one time you wouldn't want to go straight archers would be vs a Meso civ due to e*gles, but then outside of Aztecs on clown maps even mediocre cavalry or infantry will hard-counter an eagle switch - and you'll be able to afford it because you'll have surplus food due to having gone archers.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >There is ZERO (0) (zero) reason not to be archer-pilled on literally any map except a full water map, in which case you must be galley-pilled. Prove me wrong.
      My skirms suck, and I don't struggle with early feudal food eco management. I don't mind making a market while I'm in feudal, and I don't want to encourage my enemy to build archers.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    is water more about galleys or more about fires

    i always just go for mass fires

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Small number of fire galleys > galleys, but when you scale up fire galleys get shredded.

      War galleys > fire ships in pretty much any situation.

      Fast fire ships > absolutely anything besides demos.

      Demos themselves are almost not worth making until Heavy Demo since they die quick and their damage isn't that impressive if the opponent splits. If you're making them it's generally as a desperation move to try to get back in the fight when your opponent makes a mistake. Heavy Demos are ridiculous though because they do so much damage over such a large AOE that it's almost impossible not to get value out of them.

      For UUs:
      Longboats are absolute bullshit and beat galleys, fires and demos due to their insane range and their armor piercing due to multiple arrows.

      Turtle ships will win against just about anything except maybe longboats due to the armor pierce, or to heavy demos if they're super clumped.

      Dravidian UU shits on standard navy due to their aoe, but loses to longboats (god what a bullshit unit) and to turtle ships since it actually has less HP than turtles.

      Caravels are worse war galleys/galleons until you reach a critical mass of them, at which point they become... marginally better war galleys/galleons. Like just about everything Portuguese, they're underwhelming in practice.

      A good rule of the thumb in water maps ever since UUs stopped requiring castles is to just gg out vs Vikings if he hits Castle Age and isn't crippled. Which he likely won't be since he gets free wheelbarrow and cheaper ships for the Feudal galley wars.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    what should i do as malay early game? all i really feel comfortable doing with malay right now is raw fc into elephants / karambit or fi into 2hs, and either option leaves me vulnerable to early aggression. i feel like spending gold on swords is a waste as malay, so i don't ever do drush fc or maa. should i just try opening archers or something?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >should i just try opening archers or something?
      That's the only viable opening these days.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Just played scouts > elephantos (+onager because the opponent went archers instead of pikes and monks) > karambit spam today after seeing the snakeboi do it and absoultely destroyed the other guy. It's pretty fun tbh

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >snakeboi
        homosexual.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Seething hera fanboi detected

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Maa rush opener into archers, theres no reason to not, you can't say maa rush is a waste because you age up faster as well going trash 2handers later anyways

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ethiopians are the fricking gayest civ in the game
    >archer civ
    >faster attacking archers (exacerbating the biggest problem with archers already)
    >mangonels that have a bigger splash (most threatening thing about mangonels already)
    >free resources on age up means they always have a healthy eco even if they age up early
    >free pikes means they can immediately respond to knight push even if they completely ignored their barracks until then
    >only civ in the game with a fully upgraded siege workshop (even Mongols, Tartars, Turks, Slavs, Saracens, Teutons, and Celts are missing some siege)
    >can go knights of their own in castle age
    >fully upgraded shotel warriors are basically a more useful version of a champion, and a replacement for missing paladin
    after all, we all know the ethiopians were famous for their crossbows and siege weapons, and all those famous sieges they participated in, such as...

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Archers branch into a pointlessly-different unit line. European Crossbows would be a definite downgrade for anyone not facing heavily-armored enemies, since they sacrifice fire rate for energy. Ethiopians, representing the Nubians, get improved firing rate because a few desert-dwelling archers militarily held off and threatened the cores of Islam at each of the Caliphates' peaks.

      As for siege engines, that just comes down to gameplay. Ethiopians are primarily an archer civ, and they miss the final cavalry armor tech. That means either infantry or siege get the benefit, and this time, they wanted to give the spacial efficiency to the Ethiopians, so they gave them a full siege workshop to match that.
      Very practical design. I personally love the way they play.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Took you long enough to realize, all archers civs are fricking gay and borderline OP
      The only I can tolerate is Italians

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >indians armored elephant can't win 1v1 against a regular wild elephant because of the negative melee armor and taking ram damage
    moronic

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      In my headcanon, those are African Elephants which would indeed frick up an Indian Elephant, even if it was armoured

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >African bulls literally winning
        hehe

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Mutt's law at it again

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Are Sicilians the most annoying civ?
    >50 PERCENT less bonus damage
    >counters don't work??? even though the whole game is based around counters
    >castle drops even faster and gayer
    >donjon rush
    >serjeants in feudal age, created in fricking towers in your base, you need to get to castle age to counter them with knights???
    >maa sort of works but is weak against donjon fire
    >first crusade, insta 35 units
    I'm considering maybe using alt+f4 to counter this civ whenever I see it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Map dependent.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >>50 PERCENT less bonus damage
      don't work??? even though the whole game is based around counters
      The whole gist of Sicilians is being an anti anti-counter unit civs, which makes them based
      Maa rush works against them, dont be afraid to pull vills to raze a donjon, infantry knights and mangonels works wonders vs Sicilians

      I honestly don't get why people complain so much about them

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Sicilians aren't that bad, they are kinda slow early on and you will have to remember that horse collar is more important than wood upgrade.

      Sergeants can be good but huskarls and ghulam do the same niche better.

      Their hauberk cavalier are pretty strong but Poles cav spam is way stronger.

      >>50 PERCENT less bonus damage
      don't work??? even though the whole game is based around counters
      The whole gist of Sicilians is being an anti anti-counter unit civs, which makes them based
      Maa rush works against them, dont be afraid to pull vills to raze a donjon, infantry knights and mangonels works wonders vs Sicilians

      I honestly don't get why people complain so much about them

      >infantry
      Longswords and pikes are pretty bad vs Sicilians, Sicilian knights can even beat full pike and longswords aren't going to do anything once they have donjons or castles in their base

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Pikes
        Like I said before, Sicilians are supposed to excell at countering counter units, pikemen is a counter unit against knights, you shouldn't be using pikemen against Sicilian knights
        >Longswords wont do anything
        Bitch, what? Longsword spam counters both knights and Serjeants provided you got supplies and your blacksmith upgrades, you shouldn't let donjons go up in the very first place, but if they do, just overwhelm the sicilian with sheer numbers, throw a few rams or send a mangonels with a dedicated repairing villager, or just outmuscle them with knights of your own, or use elephants
        If the guy has a castle, just go imp and treb it down.
        Any good infantry or cavalry civ should easily beat Sicilians

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Sergeants can be good but huskarls and ghulam do the same niche better.
        Those are for different civs.

        >Pikes
        Like I said before, Sicilians are supposed to excell at countering counter units, pikemen is a counter unit against knights, you shouldn't be using pikemen against Sicilian knights
        >Longswords wont do anything
        Bitch, what? Longsword spam counters both knights and Serjeants provided you got supplies and your blacksmith upgrades, you shouldn't let donjons go up in the very first place, but if they do, just overwhelm the sicilian with sheer numbers, throw a few rams or send a mangonels with a dedicated repairing villager, or just outmuscle them with knights of your own, or use elephants
        If the guy has a castle, just go imp and treb it down.
        Any good infantry or cavalry civ should easily beat Sicilians

        >Like I said before, Sicilians are supposed to excell at countering counter units, pikemen is a counter unit against knights, you shouldn't be using pikemen against Sicilian knights
        It's still the best option around.
        >Bitch, what? Longsword spam counters both knights and Serjeants provided you got supplies and your blacksmith upgrades
        NTA, but I can say with certainty that it doesn't without a considerable numbers advantage. It's an eco trade at best.
        Your advice sucks, and is unrealistic at its core. Rams aren't going to work there. Mangonels, for the same reason. You can't even go for s monk rush since the units get early Faith with their CT, then later access to Faith itself in Imperial.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >I can say with certainty that it doesn't without a considerable numbers advantage
          Which is what I implied on my previous post, Longswordmen with Supplies and equal blacksmith ups are cost effective and win vs same resources number of knights and donjons
          >It's an eco trade at best.
          Thats quite literally the point of what am saying
          Longswordmen will always beat both kts and serjeants with some ease. It's not completely one sided but you can comfortably win.
          >Your advice sucks, and is unrealistic at its core
          It really isnt, it's very easy to amass huge numbers of Longswordmen, the only problematic aspect of doing this is that you need a lot of houses to keep up the spam and several barracks but other than that you can comfortably beat a sicilian on it's own game.
          You can easily pull this off and I dont know why you act like it wasnt.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Which is what I implied on my previous post, Longswordmen with Supplies and equal blacksmith ups are cost effective and win vs same resources number of knights and donjons
            Stop watching SotL. Those fights don't happen, and even if they did, that's rarely a deciding factor.
            >Longswordmen will always beat both kts and serjeants with some ease. It's not completely one sided but you can comfortably win.
            You can comfortably get him to back off until his archers are up. Enjoy the tech switch to more inefficient trash.
            >It really isnt, it's very easy to amass huge numbers of Longswordmen, the only problematic aspect of doing this is that you need a lot of houses to keep up the spam and several barracks but other than that you can comfortably beat a sicilian on it's own game.
            I'm not having trouble facing them down. The issue is defeating them or reversing momentum. You can't push off an infantry horde. Without siege or some pressure on their economy, or they'll just expand to the map in spite of the slightly-inefficient trades. Maybe they'll move a few pikes to the side as a defense, but as long as you're holed up and trying to prevent a massacre on the battlefield, you can't adequately contest them in the larger game, especially once they have both archers/siege and knights in their composition.
            The only real answer here is upgraded siege with supporting structures or early momentum to prevent the gold flood.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Those fights don't happen, and even if they did, that's rarely a deciding factor.
              They do happen, I play a lot of infantry civs and always go mass Longswordmen against knightgays, the ones that refuse to counter my infantry dies like little b***hes.
              Just dont let the Sicilian go on the offensive, MAA trush him and keep up the aggression

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >They do happen, I play a lot of infantry civs and always go mass Longswordmen against knightgays, the ones that refuse to counter my infantry dies like little b***hes.
                Depends on the way things went in feudal.
                >Just dont let the Sicilian go on the offensive, MAA trush him and keep up the aggression
                That's what I do. Momentum is crucial in dealing with Sicilians.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >check screenshot
                >Poopmaster
                Yikes!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                1vs1 me

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Doing this shit every other time you lose a match
    Stop

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      ??

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      ???

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      ????

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If you are playing Cumans, try scouts plus skirms into a second TC. Does wonders against pure archer rushes giving you the time and resources to go 2 TC. No need for deers, just put 2 on wood at start and go 20 pop up, you will want to see if the enemy is going MAA

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The original Forgotten campaigns (which are still available in the mod shop) are the ultimate pleb filter. The creators were experimental and made them fun, which upset the babbies who just want generic and unimaginative build and destroy scenarios where all you do is collect resources and defeat the enemy.

    At least DE Sforza still retains that RPG-esque feel to it, which is why it's one of the best campaigns.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      based opinions, HD/FE Sforza campaigns are the best, i like the first mission and that one where you have 2 spies(buffed up m@a) in a pseudo stealth mission, you can kill a whole camp of champions if you know not to set the trigger

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the original Prithviraj 1 is dangerously kino

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's a great scenario. I love the concept of it being about this guy just trying to go about his daily business and getting caught up in all this bullshit going on. Compared to the DE Prithviraj 1 which is just "collect three relics or kill the enemy hero unit". Boring.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Why did they change it?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Some players might have complained about its design.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Do people here still organize weekend games or did this little community die out because 1 of the players was too good for noobs?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Someone was talking about organizing a game but I don't know if it ever happened.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Well, there used to be a troonycord of people from Ganker who made games titled "/v/" but I decided to quit when I found myself with less time to play while remaining bad at the game and the one or two poopsockers were whining daily about not enough people active at once.
        it's probably dead by now due to drama I guess

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much died due inactivity I suppose.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I hope the next big patch fixes melee pathing

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I hope the next big patch nerfs archers

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I hope the next big patch nerfs archers

      I hope next patch does both

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why are there no berries on Land Nomad?

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I really wish South America and China were region locked.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The average fellow countrymen are fricking moronic I assume?
      t. spic

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They all b***h and moan the entire game and can't handle any pressure. Unless they're on the other team where they play like gods and my 1800 team looks like 1200s.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >They all b***h and moan the entire game and can't handle any pressure
          Yeah that sounds about right, you stumble upon the normie Hispanic players
          One day you will stumble upon a good and cooperative Hispanic. One day.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Tibetans for next civ please

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      China would ban the game.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Tibetans for next civ please

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Given the timeframe, it shouldn't be a problem.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Tibetans for next civ please and rename Chinese to "Tibet 2"

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Name China to "Worse Tibet" instead

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Also good.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They haven't banned other strategy games with Tibet in them

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You sure? I heard a few months ago that they banned all but something like 81 approved games (or developers?) from China entirely.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They ban loads of shit just because they can, but not everything involving tibet. Their claim is that Tibet became part of China under some treaty but that treaty happened way after the aoe2 historical period.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Hispanic talks shit
    >remind him he's a third worlder
    >Immediately shuts up and resigns
    Kek

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Get Black Forest/Arena
    >Immediately Alt f4
    >30m ban
    Worth it.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Get Arabia
    >Immediately Alt f4
    >30m ban
    Worth it.

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Arabia is just as shit as BF/Arena, you'll get no arguments from me there.

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What other maps do you like then?

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    NOMAD

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Bloodlines should not be available in feudal age, it should be a castle age upgrade.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Would only buff Franks further.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Franks should get many nerfs anyway. Scout rushes are annoying as frick, because they just run away from your spearmen, and it's worse with bloodlines.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I'd rather deal with scout rushes than morons spamming archers as Mayans/Britons.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Both are stupid. I only play civs that have camels and good skirmishers.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No, that would only buff the archer meta

        For God's sake. These suggestions don't happen in a vacuum. OF COURSE there should be other adjustments to offset imbalances caused by this.

        bloodlines is an on-the-way-up tech anyways

        Not always.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Scouts aren't a problem, don't try to fix whats not broken

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          admit it anon no one at your shit-tier elo is winning because he does bloodlines in feudal
          >ah yes I would waste 250 resources on shitty scouts instead of clinking to castle

          stop larping, you are not jordan or Biper beating +2000 elos with all in feudals

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            How about you ask me questions before you make such wild and baseless assumptions about me?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Frick off Hera

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No, that would only buff the archer meta

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      bloodlines is an on-the-way-up tech anyways

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    hate closed maps
    simple as

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >simple as
      as what?

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    For me it's Drush into CA

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >haha...please don't rush me cavarly-kun

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Bratty villager... seducing MY troops with her loom... rape correction is needed...

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Pick Burmese
    >Every single player you encounter is doing a straight archer rush, except for one Mongols player who goes M@A trush -> Archers
    How is it that Burmese Elite Skirmishers lacking a single Pierce Armor in Castle Age is enough to solidify their status as a hopelssly weak civ, but archers still aren't considered OP?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      can you beat viper with burmese?
      nope
      that means it's not OP

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Repeat that for me?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          can you beat viper if he is playing with burmese?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            A unit having disproportionate weight is a design/balancing issue, even if the average player can't use just that to beat the #1 player.
            Separate question: What's with the massive E-celeb culture here? I swear AoE2 discussion just comes down to a "Hera said"/"T90 said".

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Separate question: What's with the massive E-celeb culture here? I swear AoE2 discussion just comes down to a "Hera said"/"T90 said".
              God I hate that.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Hera said
              Hera has a huge crew of dicksuckers that have to insert him into conversations and treat his word like gospel.
              >T90 said
              I hope no one repeats what T90 says. The fact he's 2.3k 1v1 elo is honestly fricking scary and says a lot about the rest of the ladder

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                post elo
                >you won't

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Frick off Dave

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >The fact he's 2.3k 1v1 elo is honestly fricking scary and says a lot about the rest of the ladder
                Why?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                because his envy can't cope with the fact that some guy is making a living streaming AoE2 while also being in the 99.99 percentile

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      because every other civ in the game besides turks can deal with archers just fine with no issues

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >How is it that Burmese Elite Skirmishers lacking a single Pierce Armor in Castle Age is enough to solidify their status as a hopelssly weak civ,
      It's not though. It's not great, sure, but it's not the reason they're so poorly rated.
      Your eco bonus (free wood upgrades) is nice but it doesn't help your military which is more melee heavy, since you lack arbs and thumb thing, and armor. This also means your CA are mostly useless (except Arambi). They have good infantry but that's harder to play until very late game (though improving) and you don't have a eco bonus that pushes your towards infantry. Ok cavalry and pretty good elephants but elephants are situational. Siege is mediocre other than access to BBC, and pretty good monks but what are you going to do, monk/halb/elephants? Even without the range disadvantage that's super gold heavy.

      They're a badly designed civ.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You are meant to deal damage with your own man at arms + archer/skirm

      Burmese is good at collecting relics and booming, you just need your enemy weak first

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    T90 said that in team games the cold colour team has a whooping 55% chance of winning
    in 1v1s, blue has an advantage over red
    and picking yellow in ranked gives you a 45% win rate

    make of this info what you will

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Where does grey fit into all this

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Where does grey fit into all this
        Nobody likes Grey.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Lol that TheViper shitter always picking yellow, single handedly bringing down the win rate

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    playing Italians feels similar to eating chicken without spices

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Analyze them first.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They are a good pick on hybrid or water maps

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why are the Byzantine so fricking weak? I mean seriously. What's a "defensive" civ even good for? They're supposed to be a strong fricking empire and they made them the pussiest of all together with Koreans.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      byzantines are fine and balanced, upper mid tier for arabia

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    byzantines have a strong spear+skirm opening with easy switch in castle age to skirm+camel. then they get full gunpowder in imp (and faster imp) for easy gg. opponent can't siege you because of your insane building hp and you just snipe their siege with camels and bombards and go siege them back. easy gg.

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    For me it's Cataphracts and Camels.

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >South Americans
    >Chinese
    What's up with these shitty cultures and smurfing/boosting?

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The only good map types are Arena, Black Forest and Amazon Tunnel. All others are wrong.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Having tastes this shit

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >500 elo

        I lie: the only good map type is a custom scenario I made that looks like a normal Arena / Black Forest map mushed together, but secretly has Archery Ranges disabled and I don't tell people that beforehand.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >500 elo

        cope arabiacuck

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Jokes on you I hate arabia, I'm a nomad chad

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >He doesn't play islands and megarandom

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >500 elo

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What would you do to fix Burmese without erasing their identity as an infantry/elephant/monk/cav-archer civ

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Rework Siege towers, rework Elephants, make Arambai deal physical damage and benefit from Cav armor techs, and give them 6,7 range.
      Then I'd move Yeomen to the Imperial Age.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >make Arambai deal physical damage
        Big thonk

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Shit accuracy is shit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Howdah and Manipur cavalry both affect arambai

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Give them an eco bonus that actually helps them build those units. Farmers work 20% faster, deer last 50% longer, relics generate 2x gold, fricking something.

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    how do i counter maa+archer if i can't do one of my own?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How are you unable to?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        because i suck

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The answer is M@A + Skirms. Practice that.

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    My rams are being killed by villagers. What should I do to prevent this?

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    garrison longswords in your rams

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Has 2 pierce armor
    >Still dies to archers
    Is it time to give the tuetonic knight 3 pierce armor?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Archer-resistant
      >Cavalry-resistant
      >Infantry-resistant
      >Monk-resistant
      >Hits like a truck
      NO THANKS

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        And they should get a +20 bonus vs Saracens, Berbers, Turks and Tatars.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        -resistant
        Jaguars, Samurai, Urumi swordmen and Gbetos say 'Hi'.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Jaguars, Samurai, Urumi swordmen and Gbetos say 'Hi'.
          Look at the entire list.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            ALRIGHT
            Jaguars, Samurai, Urumi Swordmen, Gbetos, Leitis, War Elephants, Khmer Battle elephants, Obuchs, Archer Line, all archer UUs, cavalry archers, all mounted archers UUs, elephant archers, siege onagers, heavy scorpions, all siege UU, towers, literally all gunpodwer, castles, walls, Atlat aztec skirms/vietnamese imp skirms, dravinian halbs

            I dont know why you Black folk genuinally believe TKs are actuall good or are an actual threat, they are nowhere as dangerours except for a very specific civs (like goths or franks)
            This is yet another reminder that people here are nothing but armchair players that never actually played a serious match of aoe2 in their fricking lifes
            For fricking shame.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >ALRIGHT
              Somehow, you've either completely misinterpreted everything, or you're just bored. Are you really unable to see the difference between a unit being resistant to infantry and a unit being resistant to everything except castles and siege units?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                P.S: We were talking about a hypothetical change to TKs

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Somehow, you've either completely misinterpreted everything
                This one

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the whole point of teutonic knight is that it's countered by archers and siege

  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is not quoting people some new meme I've not been informed of yet, or is there just an autist or two in this thread?
    Or is something broken for them? idk, one of the three.

  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's not a meme. It's a way to prevent trolling. Works wonders in /gsg/, since people farming for (You)s don't get the reward they want.

  58. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's just confusing as frick for outsiders to your conversation to try and follow what the frick you're talking about.

  59. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's a good enough trade.

  60. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >the Malian warrior qwaanz don't belong to their civilization historically
    Lmao
    Any other UUs like this?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Malians represent the whole of West Africa, since Microsoft knows Africans don't sell well in any context.
      For other UUs like this:
      >Arambai
      >Cataphract
      >War Elephant
      >Kipchak
      >Keshik
      Not sure though

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      the ballista elephant and flaming camels take the cake tbh

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        both have historical backing within their respective civilizations, however flimsy. arambai are from the manipur region and exclusively fought against the burmese. war elephants are supposed to be an indian import but the variety persians have are african. genitours would more accurately be called jinete and given to the iberian civs.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          > genitours would more accurately be called jinete and given to the iberian civs.
          The iberian got their jinetes from the berbers. Specifically, from the Zenata tribesmen (Zenata being the root word fro jinete)

  61. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    an archer fricked my wife

  62. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a mod to add an in-game timer? I want to see how long time has passed in-game in real-time. My early game is bad and I want to practice reaching feudal age sooner than 15 minutes.
    I play on the 2013 HD edition if that matters.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      press F11

  63. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Should cav archers cost food instead of wood

  64. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Should war wagons cost food instead of wood

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      no. war wagons are a siege weapon, and all siege weapons cost wood and gold

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      no, war wagons are a cav archer, and all cav archers cost wood and gold

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Should war wagons cost food instead of wood

        demented samegay?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        if war wagons are a cav archer then hussite wagons and siege towers are also a cav archer

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          War wagons are literally firing cases to be ported around by horses. Hussite wagons are generally only used as stationary blocking tools.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          war wagons are affected by thumb ring, parthian tactics, ballistics, and the archer blacksmith upgrades

  65. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Thoughts on the El Dorado campaign?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's kinda alright

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Kinda garbage

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The Amazon units have big boobs and you were able to fight a tribe of blacks literally called "Los Blacks", but as a whole it was way too gimmicky, you were Spanish AGAIN for most of the campaign, and when you finally did get to play as the Incas in the Inca campaign (without being an Inca leader, mind you) you were in a shitty water map where you couldn't utilize the civ's strengths properly.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I'm glad the devs kept the amazons in DE

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  66. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Get FE campaigns mods
    >Click English version
    >Everything is in French anyway
    I still hate the Argentinians more.

  67. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Did they add any woke crap in DE? I'm thinking of buying it during the sale.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Well, as much as I can look at the pandering to LGBT in June with contempt... There are worse offenses. I meant in the game.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I love this game's community. Woke devs and crap cannot subvert it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They do women's history month events

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The villager event was a pretty good one, but if it didn't exist then we'd definitely have an event related to Pride Month.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >see someone with a pride month icon
          >proceed to lame

          I mean, chinks also love some AoE II so I'm not sure if the team would have the balls to do that either.

  68. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    how about all of effrikan KANGdoms
    >ethiopians are overall the strongest civ in the game on land maps because of rapid-fire archer spam and mangonels with bigger aoe. plus they get a fully upgraded siege workshop which even actual siege civs like mongols and tartars don't get
    >berbers get almost every tech in the game for some reason (more techs than literally any other civ in the game), plus a trash unit that beats every other trash unit in the game, plus camel archer (strongest cavalry archer in the game), and they are also a top-tier water civ
    >malians are the only civ that gets arrow armor on infantry. also their light cav is the strongest light cav in the game
    >insinuation that portuguese are black
    they so desperately wanted people to think that wakandans are "cool and strong" and made them all fricking broken overpowered in their attempt to "prove" that effrikans are "strong independent civiliZANGtions who DON'T NEED NO COLONIZER"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Ethiopians
      Sub 50% win rate (random map 1v1) at every elo except sub 1k
      >Berbers
      >trash unit that beats every other trash unit
      Please don't be talking about Genitours.
      are the only civ that gets arrow armor on infantry.
      *Besides unique units like ghulams and huskarls
      >Portuguese
      What

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Well, that makes no sense and is clearly there for the woke agenda, but it could be worse, I guess.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Since we're responding to bait now...

      >Devs choose to make civs with practical tech trees and boni to fit in the game instead of emptying out the tech tree and giving Africans 15 Unique/Regional Techs to simulate differences in warfare
      >This is bad now
      The Portuguese replaced a slot that would've been reserved for an African kingdom due to popular demand.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >everyone who disagrees with me is le bait boogeymang because i said so xdddd xdddd xdddd xdddd
        have a nice day israelite

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like you messed up your quote link! Here, let me fix that for you:

        how about all of effrikan KANGdoms
        >ethiopians are overall the strongest civ in the game on land maps because of rapid-fire archer spam and mangonels with bigger aoe. plus they get a fully upgraded siege workshop which even actual siege civs like mongols and tartars don't get
        >berbers get almost every tech in the game for some reason (more techs than literally any other civ in the game), plus a trash unit that beats every other trash unit in the game, plus camel archer (strongest cavalry archer in the game), and they are also a top-tier water civ
        >malians are the only civ that gets arrow armor on infantry. also their light cav is the strongest light cav in the game
        >insinuation that portuguese are black
        they so desperately wanted people to think that wakandans are "cool and strong" and made them all fricking broken overpowered in their attempt to "prove" that effrikans are "strong independent civiliZANGtions who DON'T NEED NO COLONIZER"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      > Ethiopians
      Torsion Engines are violently strong only in x276 techs, their siege is fairly average.

      > Berbers
      Oh look, another fricker who gets bamboozled by genitours being faster skimishers, and getting assmad that they need to rub two neurons together instead of sending a bunch of pikes/halbs in a straight line against them.

      > Malians
      Ignoring huskarls, I see. Also, in what universe is their light cav the strongest in the game?

      Since we're responding to bait now...

      >Devs choose to make civs with practical tech trees and boni to fit in the game instead of emptying out the tech tree and giving Africans 15 Unique/Regional Techs to simulate differences in warfare
      >This is bad now
      The Portuguese replaced a slot that would've been reserved for an African kingdom due to popular demand.

      > The Portuguese replaced a slot that would've been reserved for an African kingdom due to popular demand.
      Or, y'know, interacted a frickton with Africa on both sides for the entire time period.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Or, y'know, interacted a frickton with Africa on both sides for the entire time period.
        That one didn't happen. They only began to interact with Africa around 1450, toward the end of the game's time period. These interactions were minimal, resulting only in the introduction of a lightweight crossbow to Tropical Africa, and short involvement in a conflict between multiple Ethiopian factions (and the growing Ottoman Empire) in the East.
        The Portuguese were added because the devs thought Westerners wouldn't buy a DLC that only had Africans in it.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >around 1450, toward the end of the game's time period
          They added Mesoamerican civs even though the conquest of the Americas happened at that similar time period

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >They added Mesoamerican civs even though the conquest of the Americas happened at that similar time period
            Yeah, because the expansion pack was focused on that specific interaction. This isn't the Portuguese mod. The African Kingdoms expansion is about Africa.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      None of them are OP though or they'd top the leaderboards.
      Of the campaigns the only good one is the Portuguese. Malians are ok, Ethiopians are meh. Berbers suck ass, worst campaign in the game by far.

  69. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Do we need a third Aoe2 thread?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's the AoE2 board. It needs a third AoE2 thread.

  70. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Guys, what's your favorite gunpowder civilization?
    I'm a newbie, I wanna get good with Turks but can't set up fast enough, maybe I should try Bohemians

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Byzantines

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Portuguese have the strongest gunpowder with the unique tech arquebus

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Italians and Bohemians are both great to play. Not sure how often you'll win, but they feel nice.

        I see
        Sell me on these 3 civs

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Italians
          Their siege is great as their BBC are really cheap, but they're a pretty general archer/naval civ, with cheaper Dock & University techs, armoured archers, and a fantastic cavalry counter in the Genoese Crossbowman.
          >Portuguese
          Gunpowder-wise, they're much more focused on it than the Italians. Organ Guns are fun as frick when massed, Arquebus makes all their gunpowder the best in the game, because lol Ballistics
          Their navy is also great - Caravels demolish massed ships, and Portuguese ships are pretty damn tanky. I'd also point out that their Monks are underrated: full Monastery and cheap Monks are nothing to scoff at.
          >Bohemians
          Three words: Castle Age Chemistry.
          Overpowered Crossbows, great defences, great Castle drops (especially with free Mining Camp Techs) and early Hand Cannons makes them a major force. Add almost literal tanks, beefy & fast Villagers to the mix, and Bohemians are a real b***h. Also, trash Monks.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Portuguese
            >Best 1v1 gold economy, bar none. Make it to Feitorias and you're home free. No need to go for additional TCs in Castle.
            >Your UU is a tankier Hand Cannoneer that doesn't take bonus damage from Skirms
            >Great naval civ with a fairly wide tech tree.
            Italians
            >Forgiving early build orders.
            >They have a ranged counter for anything, and bonus armor for Arbs.
            >Due to the way stats are set up for their UUs, you can use them as replacements for a unit line you haven't invested into when they first become available.
            >Condotierri are an excellent infantry unit due to their high speed.
            >Discounted gunpowder units and university techs.
            >Only civ that could reasonably try to make 1v1 trade carts work.
            >Great naval civ with a fairly wide tech tree.
            Bohemians
            >Has a good archer rush, like the Portuguese
            >Spears can potentially 2-shot unupgraded scouts (reqs forging and the scouts having no defensive upgrades)
            >Access to Chemistry and Hand Cannoneers in feudal
            >UU is a micro-intensive siege unit that can potentially act as a wall and lower enemy projectile damage. Can also kill skirmishers and completely block building projectiles for units 3 tiles behind it, making petards efficient.
            >Fully-upgraded monks that only cost food
            >Actual deathball civ
            >Terrible cavalry
            >No cav archers
            >Not a naval civ

            Thank you guys, how would you compare them to the Turks?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Portuguese and Italians are decidedly more "Normal" civs, just with their own gimmicks.
              Turks are an extreme "Gold or nothing" civ. If Turks don't need gold to make it, it's just not worth making. If it does require gold, Turks can definitely make it work nicely.
              Portuguese get a nice gold discount instead, and Italians can blend in their gold units no matter what the enemy's doing. They have more of an economic focus there.
              Bohemians don't care about the question of gold. They just care about getting guns, monks, spears, and siege up, sacrificing their cavalry for it. If you can play well without cavalry, Bohemians are for you.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I think they are fairly similar, but Bohemians and Portugese have halbs as their main trash unit, while Turks can only rely on their hussars. The other day I lost to Poles because I couldn't counter their cavalry spam in the late game.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Portuguese
          >Best 1v1 gold economy, bar none. Make it to Feitorias and you're home free. No need to go for additional TCs in Castle.
          >Your UU is a tankier Hand Cannoneer that doesn't take bonus damage from Skirms
          >Great naval civ with a fairly wide tech tree.
          Italians
          >Forgiving early build orders.
          >They have a ranged counter for anything, and bonus armor for Arbs.
          >Due to the way stats are set up for their UUs, you can use them as replacements for a unit line you haven't invested into when they first become available.
          >Condotierri are an excellent infantry unit due to their high speed.
          >Discounted gunpowder units and university techs.
          >Only civ that could reasonably try to make 1v1 trade carts work.
          >Great naval civ with a fairly wide tech tree.
          Bohemians
          >Has a good archer rush, like the Portuguese
          >Spears can potentially 2-shot unupgraded scouts (reqs forging and the scouts having no defensive upgrades)
          >Access to Chemistry and Hand Cannoneers in feudal
          >UU is a micro-intensive siege unit that can potentially act as a wall and lower enemy projectile damage. Can also kill skirmishers and completely block building projectiles for units 3 tiles behind it, making petards efficient.
          >Fully-upgraded monks that only cost food
          >Actual deathball civ
          >Terrible cavalry
          >No cav archers
          >Not a naval civ

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Italians and Bohemians are both great to play. Not sure how often you'll win, but they feel nice.

  71. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    how to play bengalis?
    their rathas are very cool, but
    >need 1 trillions resources invested
    >empty stable except for elephants

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Leave Bengalis alone for now. Elephants are in a weird place, due to the conflict between Closed map TG elephants and 1v1 Open map elephants.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Bengalis are just trash on Arabia right now because they have zero stable options, they need a buff badly. It is a different story on Arena where they do decent because they don't get rushed

        How would they work as pocket in a team game? Ratha or elephant spam?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, but there really are better options.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Bengalis are just trash on Arabia right now because they have zero stable options, they need a buff badly. It is a different story on Arena where they do decent because they don't get rushed

  72. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Huns are huns

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Damn huns burned my Roman Empire

  73. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Be infantry
    >Countered by archers
    >Countered by cav
    >Countered by towers
    >Countered by boats
    >Can beat down house and palisades though
    >But so can everyone else

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      by cav
      Your new is showing

  74. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    "Burmese don't work"-anon, I concede.
    Done trying to invent ways around the lack of Leather Archer armor. It's really just a bad civ. EVERYONE goes straight archers without a second thought. Even FC 5+2 Xbows on a skeleton economy. It's all too much. I'm switching to a civ with LAA.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It just to show how fricking strong and predominant archers are in this game

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Swapped to Bohemians and made Archers in Feudal. Enemy made knights. A few pikes and I won that engagement by just dancing around and waiting for the knights to die.
        I hate this game.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >I hate this game.
          Yet we keep coming back despite its glaring flaws
          Man, we truly are hostages of this game

  75. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just give Archers the same frame delay as CA reeee

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Would a movement speed nerf equivalent to pre-Squires Militia line work better or nah

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        lower their ms just a bit theyre archers, theyre supposed to be faster than your avg infantrymen(less armor yadda yadda), frame delay def gotta be as low as CA, so even infanty could catch them while theyre reloading

  76. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What are the best campaigns? Especially for doing co-op.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Anybody? Also I don't suppose campaigns can be done with more than two players? I'm not sure how this works yet, all we've done so far is comp stomps.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        In DE there are only a handful of campaigns that have been remade for 2 player co-op
        If you want more than two players I think you are limited to custom content if you can find any, maybe have a look at diplomacy/roleplay maps and fill the other slots with AI.

  77. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Uninstalled the game after dropping nearly 200 ELO and getting btfo on three different maps in a row.
    Goddamnit. I really want to play ranked, singleplayer doesn't satisfy me anymore but losing streaks like that only fill me with self-destructive rage.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Dropped 200 elo on 3 maps
      Just start playing?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Hard to break to you, noobie, but the path to victory is paved in defeats, you will lose a dozens of times until you start winning, you will get your shit pushed in multiple times until you pick up the adequate skill, mental speed, gamesense and will power to win.
      That or you quit, like you did.

      If you want your dopamine, work for it, otherwise play Farmville.

  78. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The old Prithviraj was kino. DE ruined it by making it a boring and generic build and destroy.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I played the old indian campaign and its no way different than before
      Also the indian campaign in general is a fricking slog and it sucks, I don't know why you like it

  79. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What's a good build order I should be roughly following to FC with the Poles? I've been practising all day and getting worse.

  80. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Daut slapping liereyy and mbl

  81. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Put Jordan in
    >Strat goes to shit
    Bring back Daut

  82. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Surround a stack of archers with walls.
    What now meleelets?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >skirm your ass

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Archers do a better job of fighting cavalry than Militia-line units
      >They can attack from a distance
      >They can hide behind walls
      >They can kill their siege counters
      >This is all okay

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I will just wait until you leave your base while booming at home

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Archergay gets a massive get
      THEY CANNOT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

  83. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Double siege pierce armor
    Disable ballistics if shooting over wall
    FIX MELEE PATHING
    The latest patch made pathing even worse, didn't think it was possible

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Double siege pierce armor
      Already pretty high, would just make Mangudai less effective

  84. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Teammate goes fast imp hussars again Teutons, Italians, Franks, and Mongols
    Holy frick please reset elo these people are moronic. How the frick are you a 2k

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      but bro hussar are the best unit in the game . hera said so

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >hera
        Hera should've made more Hussar yesterday then so Lierry didn't have to carry his ass so hard

  85. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    how to counter Bri'ish xbow + mangonels?
    I genuinely feel like I'm cheating when I play this comp and win basically every game.
    >t. low 1200 elo

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      cav + bombards

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Hope you're playing Sicilians, Goths, or Hindustanis.

  86. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    mass eskirms, ram, knights
    >b-b-b-but archers counter knights
    brits don't get thumb ring they can't snipe knights like other archer civs can
    remember what happened when vikings lost thumb ring

  87. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    siege pierce armour actually sucks and most siege weapons can be sniped if you have about 20 crossbows/arbs (not hard to come up with and will usually give more value overall than most siege weapons)
    even low elo legends know how to split micro as well
    not to mention there are some unique archers that have even stronger attack than an arb
    basically siege weapons need something like bloodlines that gives them +20 hp, and they need a line of armor upgrades

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      A mangonel takes 1 dmg from crossbow already, buffing its pierce armor will just help it with cavalry archers, if you want to deal with imperial age archers upgrade it to onager

  88. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How would you massively improve AoE's gameplay?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Make melee pathing not shit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Castle build time increased. Default number of arrows fired and damage of each arrow decreased. -3 melee armor.
      >Trebuchets no longer produced at the castle, but instead, the Siege Workshop. (Petards may produced at either building.) Accuracy decreased to 10% with a 9-tile radius when attacking anything other than a Castle or TC.
      >Rams completely immune to arrow damage, has new anti-villager armor.
      >Melee units swing instantly and continue their movement during their attack while the animation plays
      >Melee units all now have 0.5 tiles of range
      >Villagers now have an auto-repair mode
      >Monk de-selection macro built into the game
      >Gold counterparts to halberds and skirmishers introduced with 2.0 attack speed and +1/1 armor. Costs 20 gold and 40f (spear) or 40w (skirm)
      >Siege towers no longer flee when hit
      >Briton range bonus only +1, and Yeomen only affects Longbows.
      >Mangonel projectile speed tripled and start with 12 PA.
      >Onager upgrade cost reduced to 400f 400g
      >Archer frame delay increased to 50
      That should do it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        How would you massively improve AoE's gameplay?

        I liked the idea of storage pit and granary in AoE1. It is more aesthetically/autistically pleasing that storage pit is about scavenging stuff outside far from your camp, whereas granary is simply about collecting crops.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Leave Britons archers alone, they are meant to be the best in the game despite lacking thumb ring, maybe take away archer armor or infantry/cav upgrades, they can beat most infantry civs with a combination of champs and arbs (Ethiopians lack champion and cav armor + bloodlines, Britons only lack bloodlines and hussar). Maybe take away blast furnace so huskarls can trade better vs champ/arb

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Leave Britons archers alone, they are meant to be the best in the game despite lacking thumb ring, maybe take away archer armor or infantry/cav upgrades
          They can still be the best without being 11/12 range.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Add like 10 more civs

  89. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is it possible to do multiple players controlling one civ in DE? Myself and 3 friends are toying with the idea of adding our dogshit elos together to form a single competent player vs a single competent player, if that's possible.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I've heard that picking the same number/color lets multiple people control the same civ but I've never seen this in practice.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I have done that, 2 players controlling the same civ, it's fun but hard to pull off, you'd need to set roles, strategize and use VC to play effectively

  90. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Who is a good civ to play as a beginner in DE?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Italians, easily. You can stick with them forever. Vanilla civ.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Civs with simple bonuses and straightforward tech trees like Franks, Britons, Celts.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Making more of them
        Frick you

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Chinese.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Would be great, but the start filters newbies.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >queue loom
          >kill sheep

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Forgot they fixed sheep-finding.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Noobs have always loved the Britons for some reason.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >9-range Xbows in Castle
        >Freeboom TC
        >12-range, 7+4 Archers in Imp
        >Sniper trebs
        >Archer meta
        >"for some reason"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Franks or Teutons.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Any civ with pikemen, cavalry/eaglewarrior, archer, skirmisher and siege engines. Don't go full petard.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Byzantines.

  91. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Cumans can't research husbandry
    >they can research steppe husbandry
    wtf bros

  92. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Odds 1v1s evens team games

  93. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How to report smurfs after a game?

    This jigger dabbed on me and my friends

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >600 team game elo
      You probably just suck

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        why are all his losses 5 minute games

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >600 elo
      >In team games
      Huh

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        we're new to this game

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I report smurfs by checking off every box on the report button (exclamation point) and saying they're smurfing. It will do absolutely nothing, as I don't think anyone actually reads reports. I've insulted other players and the devs in reports and nothing has ever happened.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I report smurfs by checking off every box on the report button (exclamation point) and saying they're smurfing. It will do absolutely nothing, as I don't think anyone actually reads reports. I've insulted other players and the devs in reports and nothing has ever happened.

        One of the friends here: 4vs4 ranked is almost all smurfs it seems. We've had like two or three "real" games total (mostly in 3vs3) and the rest are all homosexuals.
        Like, the last 3 games we had were all the same Chinese homosexuals that we'd spam Winnie the Pooh and Tienanmen Square at etc and compete to see who could resign at 5 min first.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Frick the Chinese. All of them are smurfing homosexuals. Best bet is to just get out of that elo. I think once you get to around 1500-1600 TG elo the smurfs almost disappear. You'll still get games where someone is playing with a 2k+ but it's not too common.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >I think once you get to around 1500-1600 TG elo the smurfs almost disappear.
            We're honestly like 500s at best, we managed to beat the hard difficulty AI once on Amazon Tunnel (and got dabbed on every other time) and that's like our greatest achievement.

            I get brain freeze as soon as I have to deal with more than one thing at a time, the second guy is decent but not much better than me, the third guy is usually shouting on mic and giving me a headache because he either gives me no info for what he's talking about or way too much, and the fourth guy's just happy to be here.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              If you homies need help at the game I cam help, or play a few games together
              t. Celtgay

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, we can try if you want. Gimmie a way to add you on Steam and I'll add you to the group. We're mid day euro times though and given when you replied I suspect you're a burger.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >We're mid day euro times though and given when you replied I suspect you're a burger.
                Yes and no, I'm southamerican

                160320221
                Here's my friend code, but knowing you're an euro I'm fairly sure our aoe2 times wont overlap

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Here's my friend code, but knowing you're an euro I'm fairly sure our aoe2 times wont overlap
                Waiting on you to accept. We most commonly play games in general around 1pm Universal Coordinated Time but we've been known to start up to 4 hours earlier than that and play to 8 hours past that point.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >We most commonly play games in general around 1pm Universal Coordinated Time but we've been known to start up to 4 hours earlier than that and play to 8 hours past that point.
                Yeah sorry I'm kinda moronic and mainly coordinate using Ganker hours

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >and mainly coordinate using Ganker hours
                I'm fairly sure that Ganker time is unique to the person viewing it, because if it's not then it's the same as UCT.

  94. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Get Arabia 1v1
    >Go check on my opponent
    >Already started walling
    Really homie

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Go Arabia 1v1
      >My opponent walls ASAP
      >Break through his walls
      Every time

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Go towers if he has bad res positions, going straight archers isn't the worst but get a decent castle time, if he is playing defensive and not moving out you can go for mega walls.

      What is an even bigger brain play is going scouts plus towers

      >1400 1v1 elo soon
      Road to 1600 going well.

      Congrats dude.

  95. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >make wall
    >put house behind wall
    nothing personal

  96. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Hit a different location every time the enemy makes a house
    >Add more M@A

  97. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >add a single archery range
    >M@as cry

  98. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Add skirms or scouts to the composition

  99. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >go up to castle age
    >start pumping knights from two stables

  100. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Pumping knights
    >With no gold

  101. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >posting on Ganker instead of playing the game

  102. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Had my fill earlier.

  103. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I've filled your mom earlier if you catch my drift

  104. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    In your dreams. Play the game. You're becoming delusional.

  105. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >1400 1v1 elo soon
    Road to 1600 going well.

  106. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    "How do you turn this on"
    >Refuses to elaborate
    >CTRL+C, CTRL+V

  107. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >can't garrison kings into anything in Regicide

    The frick happened?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Regicide got fixed just now, so whatever bullshit happened should now be gone.

  108. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What is a good hotkey profile if I just have a regular mouse?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why do we call Bombard Cannon "BBC"?
      For the vast majority of internet users BBC stands for "Big Black wiener". For some other people it stands for a british tv channel.

      You see, "BBC" is already used for other things. We should start to call Bombard Cannon just "BC".

      the one viper or hera use, search youtube

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        "BC" doesn't flow. I'm pretty sure that's one of the reasons given

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Not pasta
        >Just a reddit repost

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Because girls love the bombard cannon.
        We say arb instead of arbalest and halb instead of halberdier

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Champ instead of champion
          Pala instead of Paladins
          Skirm instead of Skirmishers
          Rams instead of... battering/capped/siege rams
          Etc etc etc, you get the idea

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Paladin usually isn't shortened

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Wrong

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Pala instead of Paladins
            Pal is better

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              You know what
              You're right

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Paladin usually isn't shortened

            >Pala instead of Paladins
            Pal is better

            There are people who don't say "Pally"?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              That sounds gay as frick

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              What the frick is a pally

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Why do we call Bombard Cannon "BBC"?
        >For the vast majority of internet users BBC stands for "Big Black wiener".
        maybe for schizo Ganker-brain-fried losers like you, but most normal real-life people have no idea what any of that shit means

  109. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I have no intention of playing multiplayer, is it worth it to pick up this game just to play through all the campaigns?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yes

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Campaigns will probably get you a couple hundred hours counting custom ones so yeah.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Meh, not really. I hear they cooked up some cool things in the DLCs but the vanilla stuff is boring. You turtle a bit, build an army, babysit your rams, wait for them to tear down a castle, then another one, then another one, then another one... Sometimes you get to use trebs but it doesn't make it much more exciting. I only finished Mongols and Saracens, tried a bunch of different ones but they all play the same.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Try playing the expansion campaigns before forming up an opinion.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >t. Only played AoK and Conquerors campaigns

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, there are around 200 scenarios available in total, each of them taking hours to complete. And yet, every single of them is memorable in some way, you'll remember every single one that you play. Some are really easy but fun as frick, others are insanely difficult but the crazy shit that happens on them make them unforgettable. You can spend more than 500 hours in official stuff alone, and there's custom fanmade campaigns if you want more.

  110. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    not that anon but the hd edition campaigns are all buggy as hell (i assume they're fixed in de however)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >(i assume they're fixed in de however)
      Yes

  111. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >400 1v1 rm elo
    >having an immense amount of fun
    this is what it's all about

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >>400 1v1 rm elo
      How is that even possible

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        by being new to the game and pretty terrible all around. would highly recommend

  112. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    1v1 maps are ass this rotation. Atacama is boring feudal shit fest, Steppe is a horrible nomad (but at least it's a nomad I guess), Arabia is Arabia, frick Arena, Golden Pit/Rush blows, and Marketplace is just moronic.

  113. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >random civ
    >always burmese or malians
    how to avoid this? I actually want to play random civ

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Random civ
      >Always get Huns on nomad
      >Burmese/Bengalis on Arabia
      >Franks on islands

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Take a number generator and ask it to produce a number from 1 to 42.
      Going alphabetically, choose the corresponding civ.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      literally and unironically the random generator is busted
      a lot of times you will get 3 times in a row the same civ

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Stop going random civs then.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >a lot of times you will get 3 times in a row the same civ
        >tfw get meso pocket 6 games in a row
        They didn't end well.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        How do you frick up to code simple "pick a random number from 1 to 42"?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous
  114. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >aoe2 but resources it's more like rise of nations and resources never run out so you can have gigantic neverending macro wars

  115. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Second Hun campaign mission (in Co-op at least) gets a lag spike every second because the Scythian wild woman trigger is badly coded and keeps checking constantly if the requirements for it have been met until you fulfill it
    What did they mean by this?

  116. 2 years ago
    Sage

    >Burmese are just worse Bulgarians
    Prove me wrong

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What? They're nothing alike.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Infantry civ with a strong M@A rush, lategame infantry, and strong cavalry with a functional siege workshop and poor archery range
        >Nothing alike

        Sure a civ focused on elephants and a cavalry archer UU is exacly the same as a civ focused on defenses, heavy cavalry and siege.

        >Sure a civ focused on elephants and a cavalry archer UU
        Burmese don't focus on elephants, and Bulgarians do have good Cav Archers. Better than the Burmese.

        I tried using my normal Burmese BOs and followups with Bulgarians. It all just works so much better. Your bonus is used on your offense from the dark age, allowing you to better time your wood eco tech, and letting you catch up to burmese with half-cost, half-time blacksmith techs.
        Your light cavalry gets a bonus to its attack speed with the CT, your Cav Archers are cheap to upgrade and mass (not gated behind a castle), and their range advantage and accuracy allow you to make better use of them in small numbers.
        The Krepost gives your infantry and siege exactly the backup they need to make them worth using. Miniature fortifications and fortified walls, with a stone bonus and no need for garrisoned archers. It gives the perfect support to infantry, who're otherwise lacking a purpose in the midgame.
        They're cheap to repair, quick to construct, and their damage is similar to that of a castle.
        Finally, in castle age, your 2HS are given the melee armor necessary to take knights on their own, forcing your enemy to go into archers or siege, which your buffed cavalry does well against (and has since late castle).

        Tell me Bulgarians aren't better. If you think the monk techs, Battle Elephants, or Arambai really provide something that can hold up, explain, and explain clearly.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Sure a civ focused on elephants and a cavalry archer UU is exacly the same as a civ focused on defenses, heavy cavalry and siege.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Are you the same moron who was saying Japanese and Britons are the same civ?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        more like japs and vikings are the same civ

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No, I am not he.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Malay are just Goths if they were based instead of cringe
      Prove me wrong

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I'm might be new to the game, but I don't get why players play Malay on land maps. Like over a half of their civilization bonuses and one of their unique technologies are exclusively related to water. Are Karambit Warrior and Forced Levy really that good? Or is it because they have fully upgradable arbalesters?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Malay have just enough of a tech tree to seem viable, and some people really just like them conceptually. That's why they're used.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Malay have one of the best eco bonuses and a wide enough tech tree to get by (FU arb, BBC, redemption, block printing). Also, if it does go post-imp then trash 2HS are great as long as you can protect your farms from hussar raids. They're a top tier Arena civ and a little underrated on Arabia I think. With Vikings losing thumb ring, I think Malay are a good alternative

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >one of the best eco bonuses
            I mean if there is no water on the map they only get faster advancing ages and is it really one of the best bonuses?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Each time they age up, they save enough time to make 2 villagers. That's +4 by castle age which is massive

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I dare you to say it isn't when your enemy suddenly ages up and you're desperately trying to get pikes up.

  117. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Open scouts
    >Killed by M@A
    >Killed by spears
    >Killed by archers with micro unless you can get a decent mass/get them in small groups
    >can't get a decent mass without going double stable
    >or your opponent is an idiot
    >Which will prevent you from doing 3 farms
    >Archers will always be teamed with spears in a 1v1
    >Going scouts hurts your castle time
    >There is no punishment for going archers for castle age because you don't need food production for military and gold is easily massed with an archer build order
    >A scout into knights opening requires you to swap over different unit from the stable
    >Unit has a longer recruitment time requiring you to add more stables that you probably don't have
    >Eco behind archers is extremely easy to balance and maintain
    >Melee pathing is fricked
    >Easy to minimize damage/idle time caused by scouts by just walling
    Holy frick is there any reason to actually go scouts in a 1v1 anymore? All it does is punish players who you probably would've killed in feudal if you went archers anyway. A few spears is all it takes to minimize the damage to your archers from anything the opponent tries to mass, you can't hurt the eco because everyone walls.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Dont you know? This is an archer world. Honk honk.

      But seriously speaking now, try playing with no walls mod or super open maps like Land Madness or Atacama.
      If you want, open a MAA trush and tower either his gold or his wood, then follow with scouts, but at that point is better to go skirms instead
      Sorry cavalrybro, melee has no place im this game
      t. Infantrygay

      On another subject, I have been really pondering on making an aoe2 official forum account just to make a thread pointing out how stupidly strong archers are in this game rn.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >I have been really pondering on making an aoe2 official forum account just to make a thread pointing out how stupidly strong archers are in this game rn.
        Don't bother. Everyone has pointed it out and nothing has been done.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Wait really? I didnt notice this before, I need to give it a gander.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What if you open scouts with a trush on the wall segment they attack? Easy raid?

  118. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Galactic battlegrounds is better.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody cares

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Nobody cares

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, nobody cares.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Yes, nobody cares.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Yes.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Galactic Battlegrounds DE when?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Likely never because of some copyright frickery.

  119. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the menu for definitive edition is the epitome of soulless. the history texts? they are just another pop up. the ethnic songs that played with the selection of each civ is now gone

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      they play when you start the game though

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The history section still actually does that but it's just really quiet and obfuscated by the overlaying music, they're seemingly unique from the actual game start jingles too.

      Still, DE even got an update that removed the shields you'd click on to initiate single or multiplayer games so the new main menu basically has very little in common with the original, needs more clicks to do shit even. I'm glad they did a title screen backdrop in the style of the original game's own, but that was tied to an event whose content for some reason I no longer have access to compared to some others. At least there's a reupload but still.

  120. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Want to play Arabia
    >Get Steppe
    >Enemy goes drush trush trush trush trush trush crush crush crush
    >Still win through the bullshit of trebuchets and basic game sense
    >He folds the second I have the upper hand
    I wasted 57 real-life minutes on this.
    If you star Arabia and don't get it, your opponent must, logically, be a shitter.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Actively scout the enemy base, if you see a barrack early then wall yourself up, then prepare to do a man at arms rush

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I shortened it to make a point. I didn't have an issue until just after he switched into spears and made a few towers far from my base, along my wall, then snaked towards my TC. I used towers to hold him at bay, but eventually we both teched up, and he had just enough resources to go for a castle. One villager left alive when it was finished.
        He pushed in, I kept making towers between him and my new TCs, and finally made a castle in the back. He made trash, I made trebs/camel archers, and I pushed through everything until I hit his base. It was the chain-towers I didn't expect or know how to deal with.

  121. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I expected more from that moonlight mod tbh

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah it's just the night mood lighting

  122. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Black Forest > Amazon Tunnel > Most map types > Arena > Arabia
    (for team play)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Holy frick you have shit taste.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Arabia is full of tryhard smurfs so it's an easy veto, while the likes of Mountain Ridge and Dry River are "rush Feudal archers or get rushed" and lead to a bunch of miserable games.
        Arena you're all just too far apart and it's the illusion of safety.
        Black Forest we've had so many top tier games on that it is staying favourited forever.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Arena you're all just too far apart and it's the illusion of safety.
          This, arena clowns are a menace to society

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >socatra
      >tiny
      >8 players

  123. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I bought the new civ DLCs yesterday. I have never been much of a cav guy but Poles economy is really comfy and I really like the Folwark.

  124. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >event only exclusives
    >they're mods anyone can make

    Double shit

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >event want me to sign up to Xbox Live
      No nah, I'm not gonna do it.

  125. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How viable is Vikings? Just played a few skirmish games vs AI with friends and they're a blast
    Team islands fc into longboat just shreds their navy, fun

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Vikings are great on both land and water maps. Have fun.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Good naval civ (and was the best in AoC), free Wheelbarrow/Hand Cart is also pretty great regardless of land or water if you can still shit out villagers non-stop.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      vikings are alternate japs

  126. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Steppe civs need to lose access to the knight-line and have the steppe lancer buffed.
    Turks also need to have acces to the SL and lose knight-line

    this is the undeniable truth

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Don't know about that, but Cumans shouldn't get Paladin.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Cumans shouldn't get Paladin
        They have nothing else going for them to compliment their boom. If you buff Lancers and give them bracer I'm fine with removal of Paladins.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          They're a momentum civ. They shouldn't have that strong of an endgame.

  127. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a single Civ that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Celts on Black Forrest? Let alone defeat them.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Vikings if they fat slob

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Bohemians with Houfniza spam

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      FU ethiopian siege mogs you, as will bohemians

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Spread out english longbows.

  128. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Crossbow/Knight vs Skirm/Camel?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Crossbow/Knight because the frontline needs to be tanky against the enemy backline, even if it's weak to the enemy frontline, your own backline should have enough DPS to quickly burn the enemy frontliners.

      Long ago I was Aztecs vs a Mayan, my comp was Atlat Skirms and Jags vs Plummies and his eagles, his composition won because despite my jags brutally clubbing the eagles to death, the plummies were murdering my jags faster than they could kill the eagles, then the eagles pounced my skirms and it was gg.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There's a reason nobody opens camels if they have knights.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Ethiopians and Hindustanis do against Cav Archer civs.

  129. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I just got the game and I'm playing some campaigns. I'm on the sixth Joan of Arc mission, once you've boomed up and can max out your army are you supposed to go for combined arms or is it better to just go full paladin or full hand cannoners with some trebs/bombard cannons to clear castles?

  130. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Does cracked sand still make buildings weaker or did DE remove that?

  131. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Are there any eco/boom focused campaigns?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      goth campaign?
      you go full 3tc boom and right click with 30 barracks

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Are the missions specifically made for booming or is that just the goth playstyle?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          the 3rd and 4th mission has a popcap of 210 and let you pretty much boom uninterrupted

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I'm on the last mission now and I thought I was doing good but holy shit they're all attacking together at once, I barely had time to recover from the last attack.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              The last Goth mission is one of those missions for which you need advanced knowledge. Some scenarios are only realistically beatable if you rush a specific enemy, or immediately do something specific like find gaia units. This is bad scenario design. The final Alaric mission gets a lot easier if you take all your starting soldiers and just attack Sarus' base, doesn't matter that you lose all your soldiers. Doing this will trigger Sarus to attack early, which is a good thing because he'll attack all by himself and you kill him with your TC. If you don't do this you'll have 4 enemies attacking you at once, which is not impossible, but it's so incredibly difficult that it almost seems as if the devs want you to rush Sarus. Bad scenario design.

              Pic related: Sarus attacking all by himself because you triggered him.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I went to the wiki for tips and rushing Sarus was the recommended strategy. I had a really good feeling about this run because I rushed stone and had 3 castles up with some pretty big garrisons, enough trebs to start pushing out to demolish red but then non-stop floods of enemies appeared, when you're done defending one front the other one is already under attack again, which is frustrating. I'm a bit ambivalent about missions that can be cheesed, I speedran a Joan of Arc mission because I destroyed the enemy castle before even getting to the town so I immediately won the scenario upon doing so, which felt cheap but in a way I also like missions that aren't on strict timers so you can frick around and do some damage with your starting troops if you feel like microing a bit. I'll restart and try rushing Sarus this time, thanks.

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