The four Starter Pokémon of Johto.
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The four Starter Pokémon of Johto.
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Why are the sizes so fricked up?
Also this doesn’t work due to Crystal.
>Gold/Silver/HeartGold/SoulSilver
That's four games against one, sorry bucko
And now you know why Crystal is never above Gold/Silver in any real tier list.
I tried to use Flaafy on my last playthrough of Gold and he sucked so I just taught Magmar Thunder Punch and dealt with the loss of STAB
Mareep is retconned in Crystal aka the ultimate Johto experience so nah
Anti-Mareepgays are the worst group of posters on this entire board.
>The four Starter Pokémon of Gold/Silver.
Let me help you correct it.
I'd agree with you but they took mareep out of crystal
Why is Totodile such a moron?
If your team's Fire type wasn't Typhlosion, your Electric type wasn't Ampharos, your Grass type wasn't Victreebel eventually and your Water type wasn't the red Gyarados, do you even play a Johto game?
Yep
>Feraligatr
>Crobat
>Heracross
>Slowbro
>hm slave mon
Don’t need any more than them.
Sorry, my Water-type was him.
Based
Quagsire could shelf Swampert with his little finger
Yeah cuz I used Quagsire/Typhlosion/Ampharos/Jumpluff/Noctowl/Furret instead. Why would I use Pokemon that didn't premiere in the region? By the time I run into Gyarados my Quagsire will have more Stat EXP so it's better anyway. It doesn't have sky-high attack but it gets STAB on EQ (which it gets via level-up) so it's not crippled by having to run Hidden Power for STAB.
Using gyarados
No thanks
>If your team's Fire type wasn't Typhlosion
G/S: your Magmar, bro?
Crystal: your Growlithe, bro?
>Soul Silver
>boxing your first new friend
Sounds like the way Silver would do
I already used all starters.
I got Houndour and Spinarak from trading in Silver.
You can catch Onix in Union Cave before Bugsy. Additionally, you might want to considering picking a grass type as your sixth team member. You have a huge weakness to water and ground types.
Insanely good Silver team
I'm a fan of the SS team
Ah yes the only valid johto starter
Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, Pikachu
Ah yes, the four starters of Kanto
The fact Johto captured the same soul is remarkable. Every gen after has tried to again capture this lightning in a bottle effect of "these four Pokemon are the core of this game", and none can do it. Hoenn went the wrong direction, and instead started the "everyone's first [region] team" issue. They tried to fix this after Gen 4 made it even worse, and I couldn't tell you for the life of me what you're supposed to use in Gen 5. After that it falls apart, which may or may not be a good thing depending on your thought process.
But Kanto and Johto... They perfectly established the starting duo of a starter and a good electric type. So much so that I always find myself underwhelmed waiting in Hoenn for Slateport, only for my electric options to suck ass. It's palpable, and even as GF fumbles trying to make the next pikaclone, they never get back to what made them work.
I still think Johto is the strongest in this sense for the fourth starter fitting all the categories that starter Pokémon (or at least the Johto starters) require:
>three stage line
>first evolution in the mid-teens, second in the 30s
>first stage bst: ~300, second stage: ~400, third stage: ~500
>each evolution stage makes drastic visual changes
>based on an animal + element
I think Luxray comes close, but the Sinnoh starters are more jobmon-like which makes it feel out of place with them. Of course, Bulba/Char/Squirt/Pika will always be the most iconic group.
>Hoenn went the wrong direction, and instead started the "everyone's first [region] team" issue
Johto started this, though. The average Hoenn baby will have a more varied team compared to the average Johto baby. Though Sinnoh did have it the worst I agree.
Johto has more options in the story than
>Kanto
>Hoenn
>Sinnoh
>Unova (BW)
I disagree. Outside of perhaps Ampharos and maybe Crobat, there is enough variety to keep things interesting. Sure, they could have done better with some distributions (swap Sneasel and Delibird, find a decent home for Slugma) and original learnsets, but overall the dex has some good stuff in it. I think it actually helps a lot that early mons range from shit to mid, as that forces you to keep a few slots open as you move through Johto.
> Gen 4 made it even worse, and I couldn't tell you for the life of me what you're supposed to use in Gen 5
???
Not even close to my sinnoh team. I had Empoleon and Garchomp but none of the rest
Yes cause you only need Mareep and your Starter in Johto, i.e 2 in the starter pack. The same goes for KANTOOOO starters with Pikachu.
How did you fly?
If you're attempting to detract from my point, you have actually supported it. Sinnoh is as cookie cutter as it gets.
okay
see
This picture is accurate, hah.
It bothers me you don't have the box legendaries stacked
Glad the "cookie cutter team" problem won't apply to the upcoming BW remakes
I’ve played G/S and the remakes a lot of times, the only time I ever used Mareep was on a HG run after seeing people hype it up so much, I was underwhelmed.
>why yes I used two gyarados (one blue, one red, both male) how did you know that?
I want my HGSS team to be Magcargo, Mismagius, Steelix, Tyranitar, and Mamoswine, but all of these except for Slugma are locked behind the 5th badge so I'm stuck with just him for now
I've played this game so many times that I can't use the regular Starter/Ampharos/Quagsire/Heracross team anymore, the fact that you get so many powerhouses right at the beginning makes it difficult to pick unconventional stuff
Powerhouses are irrelevant, you're canonically supposed to go with your favourites in Gen 2. That's what I always did and it was kino.
Anon, just play a romhack that opens up distribution.
I did a HGSS one and had a Steelix by fifth gym.
that's also where you get it in the vanilla game, you can farm a metal coat right after the fourth gym and then just catch an already-evolved steelix right after the fifth gym
You can actually get it much earlier with the Pokeathlon
Huh? I don't remember catching a Steelix in the vanilla game unless trading.
Steelix is a rare encounter in Cliff cave along with Misdrevaus
Yeah, but that only happens in HG/SS.
Oh I think I got the idea, vanilla in your case means HGSS instead of the modding HGSS. I was thinking it was Gold Silver
>Anon, just play a romhack that opens up distribution.
Why would you play some non-canong fanhack instead of just playing a better game altogether? You have Platinum right there in the same gen.
Same issue
>non canon
Oh no the canon police are coming!
>Why eat a bowl of berries when you can have this plate of polished shit?
But enough about your daily lunch
clinically insane
True Starter
What's this obsession with "the perfect team to play through the game?". Is it stuck in your childhood? To relive the magic? Let's not kid ourselves we all beat the game the first time with just our starter with moves like cut and flash and a few underlevelled secondary pokemon.
I get the fascination from a gameplay's technical viewpoint. Like seeing the developers and understanding why they put this pokemon here and that pokemon there.
But at the end of the day, it really doesn't fricking matter.
My Blastoise has Strenght and Surf. Could have done worse.
my team was something like this when i originally played silver. I think I boxed xatu for lugia
Geodude, Abra, and Machop, the true gen 1 starters for people who have friends
Kind of based but why no Ghastly?
Too unique. Ghastly line is the Ampharos on them.
Why the frick are you mispelling Gastly?
Because its the correct spelling of Ghast
Feraligatr still the best
Only in the remakes when Water stopped being special
>not using Golem in Johto
>using geodude any further than Bugsy
>not only using Dunsparce and paraflinching everyone to death