All DLSS modes look like turbo dogshit on 1080p as it's upscaling a microscopic resolution to an already low resolution. If you are looking at a card that can't do 1080p you shouldn't be buying it, don't get that GT 1630 equivalent and just save up for an actual, human card.
>All DLSS modes look like turbo dogshit on 1080p
Agai, DLSS Quality looks better than native, because TAA itself is worse at 1080p. DLSS's AA is better than bog-standard TAA, and the AI step can help reduce TAA's artifacts.
And that's not to mention DLAA.
Yes. 6700XT is the bang for buck offering right now. The new 7000 cards are launching at lackluster MSRPs.
>All DLSS modes look like turbo dogshit on 1080p
It depends on the game's implementation of TAA and its implementation of DLSS. DLSS is trash in some games, especially the older DLSS versions. In most games it's 99.9% identical to 1080p native. And in some games the native resolution's TAA implementation is trash and DLSS is just a straight up upgrade with no downside. (And this is starting to happen more and more often.)
https://imgsli.com/MjExODg3/1/2
This game's a great example. The native TAA implementation has the this very noticeable ghosting for all the movement, and it doesn't handle jagged lines all that well at 1080p. I can upload a video showing you how the robot on the character's back visibly ghosts when moving around on the native resolution, like there's an afterimage to its motions. In the DLSS version there's no ghosting at all, and DLSS also handles the jagged lines more naturally at 1080p as you can see in this comparison. And comes with a 36% framerate boost.
DLSS is just a straight up upgrade in some games and it's cope or sour grapes effect to say otherwise. Hell, you can even supersample to 1440p and turn on DLSS and you'll have a noticeably better image at the exact same framerate as native 1080p, and with no ghosting.
FSR is also a lot better than it used to be, though it's still behind DLSS.
you are a moron. DLSS 2+ at quality looks better than native at 1080 for a few reasons.
Firstly, it is using deep learning algos to resolve sub-pixel detail so you get better detail, especially at a distance.
Secondly it is replacing the native anti aliasing solution with DLAA which pretty much gets rid of aliasing in the image without blurring it like TAA would.
Thirdly, there is zero ghosting or smearing in DLSS at this point (unless you are using cherry picked videos of ray reconstruction which isnt even used unless pathtracing is enabled).
If you go down to balanced or performance, then you begin seeing the oil painting effect and everything looks smeared and weird. But at quality there is enough data for the tech to do it's job.
>Comparing visual quality by showing compressed israelitetube video at 1080p
Love to see it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
This. I, stupidly, did that when I bought a 3060 thinking it'd be a decent replacement for my fried 1080. "DLSS is unnoticeable!" I thought.
I was so wrong. DLSS is horrible and FSR is even worse. Returned that shit card and spent a bunch extra to get a 3080. It sucks, but I'll never play a game that needs DLSS to hit 60fps at medium settings.
>All DLSS modes look like turbo dogshit on 1080p
Agai, DLSS Quality looks better than native, because TAA itself is worse at 1080p. DLSS's AA is better than bog-standard TAA, and the AI step can help reduce TAA's artifacts.
And that's not to mention DLAA.
literally improves image quality but okay
It does. Cope.
>better than native >cope
The one who's coping is you, trying to justify the leather jacket man's highway robbery.
I have a 7900 XTX in my desktop and a NVIDIA GPU in my laptop. My experience with DLSS is from playing on the laptop's GPU at 1080p, because that's what it's capable of. And when I do, I use DLSS Quality because it looks better than native 1080p. Please stop trying to bring fanboyism into this.
I have a 7900 XTX in my desktop and a NVIDIA GPU in my laptop. My experience with DLSS is from playing on the laptop's GPU at 1080p, because that's what it's capable of. And when I do, I use DLSS Quality because it looks better than native 1080p. Please stop trying to bring fanboyism into this.
>You have direct image comparisons in this very thread.
Okay, where?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Here:
Yes. 6700XT is the bang for buck offering right now. The new 7000 cards are launching at lackluster MSRPs.
>All DLSS modes look like turbo dogshit on 1080p
It depends on the game's implementation of TAA and its implementation of DLSS. DLSS is trash in some games, especially the older DLSS versions. In most games it's 99.9% identical to 1080p native. And in some games the native resolution's TAA implementation is trash and DLSS is just a straight up upgrade with no downside. (And this is starting to happen more and more often.)
https://imgsli.com/MjExODg3/1/2
This game's a great example. The native TAA implementation has the this very noticeable ghosting for all the movement, and it doesn't handle jagged lines all that well at 1080p. I can upload a video showing you how the robot on the character's back visibly ghosts when moving around on the native resolution, like there's an afterimage to its motions. In the DLSS version there's no ghosting at all, and DLSS also handles the jagged lines more naturally at 1080p as you can see in this comparison. And comes with a 36% framerate boost.
DLSS is just a straight up upgrade in some games and it's cope or sour grapes effect to say otherwise. Hell, you can even supersample to 1440p and turn on DLSS and you'll have a noticeably better image at the exact same framerate as native 1080p, and with no ghosting.
FSR is also a lot better than it used to be, though it's still behind DLSS.
>ray tracing >3060/3060 ti
Black person what
im laughing everytime they come up with a new meme setting that wont be usable until 20 years after release but then i start crying when i see people like you who fall for it
recommend a card without the meme setting then, every new card has it. a 1660 super is just a reskinned 1060 6gb basically. so what choice do we have left?
It probably could do some games @ 1440p, but yeah that definitely passes the 1080p threshold. Smoother frametimes than the 6500 and 6600. iirc 6700XT even has FSR3 support when that comes out. Solid AMD card to hold one off for a few years until another upgrade, imho.
7600 for $250 if you only care about native 1080p without raytracing.
4060 for $300 if you care about DLSS, frame generation, or raytracing. AMD's equivalents just aren't up to snuff.
7600 for $250 if you only care about native 1080p without raytracing.
4060 for $300 if you care about DLSS, frame generation, or raytracing. AMD's equivalents just aren't up to snuff.
RT especially is an absolute joke at XX60 tier, always has been. You are cutting your already dogshit performance essentially in half for better lighting. Activating DLSS 3.0? Enjoy your artifacting and input lag just for some lighting effects lmao.
RT and DLSS isn't great at 1080p, sure. Frame gen is still worth it, however.
>AMD's equivalents just aren't up to snuff.
I'm trans btw xD
I got it for 1440p and it runs great for every game I've played.
FSR 3 is good you fart huffing moron.
AMD is just using simple software algorithms. NVIDIA is using a supercomputer to train their AI and dedicated hardware on your card to achieve their results.
>NVIDIA is using a supercomputer to train their AI and dedicated hardware on your card to achieve their results.
And yet FSR 3 gives you just as many frames with comparable image quality using that "simple algorithms." And that's without mentioning the "hardware" Nvidia features that managed to get modded onto older cards. Stop falling for marketing hype brainlet.
is there any explanation of why amd pajeets have taken over? is everybody poor? what made nvidia lose sales? the memes of poor performance and else, can't be true. What's the real reason? even AI hasn't turned the tables.
>is everybody poor?
Anyone paying more than what a product is worth to prove that they are not "m-muh poorgay" is irremediably moronic and deserves whatever they get.
>what made nvidia lose sales?
Nvidia's extreme israeliness to the point of having the consumer darling known as EVGA exiting the market for good, their upgrade programs and bulletproof RMAs were effectively gold standard and nothing else in the industry remotely comes close.
Believe it or not but that rattled a lot of Nvidia diehards.
oh i totally forgot about evga. guess that's most of it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Keep in mind this applies doubly so to the US market where companies will do everything possible to frick you out of an RMA.
t. had Gigabyte RMA a GPU back to me with no work done on it 3 days after warranty ended and refused to help further.
>is there any explanation of why amd pajeets have taken over? is everybody poor?
Why are you morons trying to defend Nvidia's moronic business decisions? People only went to AMD because they didn't completely frick over their customers, and people will move to Intel's Battlemage GPU if they priced it right with decent features. This corporate wienersucking is moronic.
All corporations are bad, what a new and impressive discovery. I still trust shitvidia more than amd, homosexual.
I want my anime breasts, and I am gonna get them, frick off.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>I still trust shitvidia more than amd, homosexual.
lmao sure buddy, you are a fricking drone giving your money to "shitvidia". Enjoy your garbage AI porn.
8 months ago
Anonymous
I do, anon. And it is free, and no dumb artist is demanding gorillions for a simple sketch, nor do they refuse my requests. You say shitty porn like AI draws in ms paint doodles, but you are very wrong.
DLSS looks better than native if enabling DLSS lets you crank some settings. Otherwise it's obviously inferior.
DLAA, however, is the best form of antialiasing.
It's a good card and UE5 games aren't playable without FSR 3 anyway. Why not AM5 though? Am4 is a dead platform anon, at least this way you get DDR5 and 9900x3d access.
Unironically I would rather get 4060, they are nearly the same price at least in my c**try and performance but nGreedia just has better features. They both have only 8GB of VRAM so that sucks.
If games keep being so poorly optimized you won't get native 1080p 60 with decent settings anyway.
Nshitia features aren't that much better to justify settling for 8gb vram and the nvidia tax in the current year. He could get a 12gb 6700 XT for like $300 instead with the same performance.
no you don't get it, buy your amd trash. when you realize it can't even do AI shit and the drivers suck, you will come back crying to daddy nvidia, kiddo. So use and enjoy your garbage. There is a reason why every AI server is nvidia only, sweet heart.
>He can't even say anything about all servers for AI shit being basedvidia
Just what I thought. the aymd shill can lie and say drivers work, and their hardware is great, but when faced with big servers all using nvidia, he has 0 arguments.
What argument? I am playing videogames not generating porn all day. Nobody needs AI shit on consumer cards
8 months ago
Anonymous
>NOBODY NEEDS IT
first cope. And still not even trying to counter the fact that even servers without AI shit use nvidia, and not gaymd- Cope accepted.
8 months ago
Anonymous
imagine paying $1500 more for less performance
8 months ago
Anonymous
AMD has no high end cards though
8 months ago
Anonymous
And yet the 7900XTX manages to compete with the 4090 in some titles
8 months ago
Anonymous
>even servers
What servers, troony? The ones on debian? Wtf I love linux now time to buy amd
8 months ago
Anonymous
>troony
opinion disregarded
and even linux has nvidia drivers.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Linux Nvidia drivers
BAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHHAA
8 months ago
Anonymous
>>"amdiot" >not amdrone >immediately thinks of nvidiot instead of his own insults
KEK
Servers use Nvidia gpus because AMD doesn't create cards for that market. Coincidentally server shit is the only reason why Nvidia stock is doing well. Most of 40 series is flopping hard for consumers and is getting buttraped by the 7800 xt.
You’re too stupid to see the big picture. Sorry you’re a little gamer boy who doesn’t know how the real world works. Stay mad that Nvidia can outspend AMD
>>"amdiot" >not amdrone >immediately thinks of nvidiot instead of his own insults
KEK
Servers use Nvidia gpus because AMD doesn't create cards for that market. Coincidentally server shit is the only reason why Nvidia stock is doing well. Most of 40 series is flopping hard for consumers and is getting buttraped by the 7800 xt.
8 months ago
Anonymous
the insult of amd shills is only nvidiot. However there is gaymd, which you can't refute. Because you are all unironic homosexuals.
8 months ago
Anonymous
And yet your tiny underage brain couldn't even think of it when you sent that original reply, or defend your moronic argument when I actually refuted it. Enjoy your $800 70 series cards dumbshit.
8 months ago
Anonymous
I used it earlier and I use it all the time, homo. Also cope accepted.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>still no argument
Concession and cope accepted sir
8 months ago
Anonymous
not coping, i have a nvidia card, you don't. end of discussion.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah and I'll enjoy my superior card pricing, superior vram, frametimes and free open-source features that even Nshitia manchilds can take advantage of. You're welcome gayboy.
Not really if you intend to play new AAA garbage, 6700XT is only ~15% faster than 7600 or 4060. Going from 1080p to 1440p will cost you 30-40% FPS. No unstable 60FPS isn't enough.
nah 4060 is. You are outdated.
I search my local ebay and 4060 non ti costs the same as a 3060 non ti, uses less power and gives more performance. Charts hate the 4060, though.
we were talking about the 3060 compared to 4060. You can't get a better card for the same price of the 3060, frick off brain dead idiot. Also that's why people buy the 4070/4060 with 16gb or don't upgrade.
shut up gaymd homosexual. I rather play games on igpu than use your trash brand ever again.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>"my" brand >implying I simp for corporations over value for money
Oh you poor little man rajesh
8 months ago
Anonymous
you are a frogeposter, everything you say is null and void.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>frogeposter
Compared to what, your inability to type in English?
8 months ago
Anonymous
>imbecile frogeposter doesn't get that "froge" is to insult further his shitty underage meme
typical. stay in school, kid.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Sounds more like you need to go back Patel.
Maybe sell that RTX GPU for a bus pass so you can go to the local community college?
Lord knows you need it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
pure copium. insult me more, if it can even be called that. Maybe you can say you fricked my mum next? surprise me, clown.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Maybe you can say you fricked my mum next?
Your dad is my submissive bottom.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Will you revive him as a zombie from the grave, or will you frick his rotting corpse and bones?
i have noticed this smearing with RR as well. I thought it was me fricking with DLSS settings in the ini that did it but it seems to be RR. Kind of annoying because otherwise RR is great for reflections and stopping that annoying light trail thing you get with normal path tracing.
You described TAA.
If your game uses older version of DLSS with graphical issues you can just swap .dll for newer version and you'll see huge difference.
DLSS looks like shit on 1080p because it's rendering at 720p, but you can try DLSS + DSR to get effectively DLAA.
And that looks good even on crappy monitor.
I just started playing Cyberpunk 2077 with my RTX 2060. My settings? 2560x1440 resolution, DLSS set to balanced (barely any difference to native 1440p presentation), all settings set to high except goytracing off. My FPS? around 70-80fps and game looks fricking great. DLSS is unironically so fricking good and amd WISHES they could compete with it.
I built a pc just like half a year ago and I am craving to build a new set up. How do I deal with these feels bros
please no bait. I do use my two desktops, one in bed and the other at work. I don't just buy shit to let it get dusty.
I need to get a new GPU because my last one died, I don't have a lot of money so I'm looking at a 6750 or 3060ti, both are at the same price for me, what do you guys think?
I have an older i9900k and a 1440p screen.
Since you have a 9900k, get the 6750xt. Radeon drivers scale better with older cpus.
That is assuming you don't care about generating ai anime breasts. But if you're even considering amd then I assume you don't.
Do you know if any card would have advantages for playing ARMA 3? It's the main game I'll be playing, I wonder if the higher VRAM from AMD will help? I'm leaning towards it to be honest.
6600 is true 1080p king for the price but 6700xt is second best card even great for 1440p excluding all the trash they call recent games that are not optimized
>have a 1070 >only care about 1080p because i'm a cheap frick but also only really care about big budget triple a stuff with great graphics and horrible optimization >thought about buying a used 6800 on ebay but terrified of making a terrible investment
I hate being a cheap bastard
>I play everything at 1080p with a RX580 8gb 60+ fps
No you don't. You turn things down to 720-900p or pray for FSR, and you turn settings way down. Or you play older games.
t. rx 480 user who knows you're full of it
>"Hey bro, you should buy this rip-off of a GPU because you can turn on some shitty AI upscaling to play your video games at 1080p, if you don't agree that the shitty AI upscaling is better than native, you're coping"
genuine mental illness
> if you don't agree that the shitty AI upscaling is better than native, you're coping
You literally have image comparisons in this very thread showing you that it's the same at worst, and often better.
You have countless videos on youtube to choose from showing you it's the same fricking thing in motion. I can record one for you if you really want but it'll take time to edit in the 400% zooms for motion detail and it'll likely be done after the thread's gone though.
works on my machine
same
fits my metalfish s3 case perfectly
same
id rather a 3060 for dlss
>DLSS at 1080p
The absolute STATE.
DLSS Quality looks better than native at 1080p. And I wouldn't mind dropping down to Balanced if needs be. As the generation progresses, for example.
All DLSS modes look like turbo dogshit on 1080p as it's upscaling a microscopic resolution to an already low resolution. If you are looking at a card that can't do 1080p you shouldn't be buying it, don't get that GT 1630 equivalent and just save up for an actual, human card.
>All DLSS modes look like turbo dogshit on 1080p
Agai, DLSS Quality looks better than native, because TAA itself is worse at 1080p. DLSS's AA is better than bog-standard TAA, and the AI step can help reduce TAA's artifacts.
And that's not to mention DLAA.
so nothing nvidia then?
Obviously. Budget cards have always favored AMD. Except this gen everything below the 4090 favors AMD.
Yes. 6700XT is the bang for buck offering right now. The new 7000 cards are launching at lackluster MSRPs.
>All DLSS modes look like turbo dogshit on 1080p
It depends on the game's implementation of TAA and its implementation of DLSS. DLSS is trash in some games, especially the older DLSS versions. In most games it's 99.9% identical to 1080p native. And in some games the native resolution's TAA implementation is trash and DLSS is just a straight up upgrade with no downside. (And this is starting to happen more and more often.)
https://imgsli.com/MjExODg3/1/2
This game's a great example. The native TAA implementation has the this very noticeable ghosting for all the movement, and it doesn't handle jagged lines all that well at 1080p. I can upload a video showing you how the robot on the character's back visibly ghosts when moving around on the native resolution, like there's an afterimage to its motions. In the DLSS version there's no ghosting at all, and DLSS also handles the jagged lines more naturally at 1080p as you can see in this comparison. And comes with a 36% framerate boost.
DLSS is just a straight up upgrade in some games and it's cope or sour grapes effect to say otherwise. Hell, you can even supersample to 1440p and turn on DLSS and you'll have a noticeably better image at the exact same framerate as native 1080p, and with no ghosting.
FSR is also a lot better than it used to be, though it's still behind DLSS.
you are a moron. DLSS 2+ at quality looks better than native at 1080 for a few reasons.
Firstly, it is using deep learning algos to resolve sub-pixel detail so you get better detail, especially at a distance.
Secondly it is replacing the native anti aliasing solution with DLAA which pretty much gets rid of aliasing in the image without blurring it like TAA would.
Thirdly, there is zero ghosting or smearing in DLSS at this point (unless you are using cherry picked videos of ray reconstruction which isnt even used unless pathtracing is enabled).
If you go down to balanced or performance, then you begin seeing the oil painting effect and everything looks smeared and weird. But at quality there is enough data for the tech to do it's job.
>DLSS Quality looks better than native
It does. Cope.
DLSS can absolutely resolve better sub-pixel detail like chain link fences and hair compared to TAA at 1080p.
it does look better
But FSR looks better there
the foliage is all fricked up on the left
and there's shimmering on the tree bark edges
it looks so bad compared to how smooth dlss is
>FSR3
>native
Back in my day Native used to mean something
fsr native means native resolution plus aliasing done by fsr upscale and downsample to native
moron. Why the frick do i still come here when i have to share the board with brain slugs like this?
>blah blah bloo bloo reeee
>Comparing visual quality by showing compressed israelitetube video at 1080p
Love to see it.
This. I, stupidly, did that when I bought a 3060 thinking it'd be a decent replacement for my fried 1080. "DLSS is unnoticeable!" I thought.
I was so wrong. DLSS is horrible and FSR is even worse. Returned that shit card and spent a bunch extra to get a 3080. It sucks, but I'll never play a game that needs DLSS to hit 60fps at medium settings.
Because native is TAA, TAA is shit.
It looks better because it's DLAA.
if the game needs AA at 4k, then the devs need schooling (*coughs* cyberpunk)
Yes I'm sure artificially rendering what a concept SHOULD look like vs rendering what the image IS would look "better".
But we don't pay hundreds of dollars for graphics cards to interpret what an image should be. We pay for them to make the image
>better than native
>cope
The one who's coping is you, trying to justify the leather jacket man's highway robbery.
I have a 7900 XTX in my desktop and a NVIDIA GPU in my laptop. My experience with DLSS is from playing on the laptop's GPU at 1080p, because that's what it's capable of. And when I do, I use DLSS Quality because it looks better than native 1080p. Please stop trying to bring fanboyism into this.
it fully and unironically provides better quality everything except decals
Not at 1080p.
DLSS Quality is barely good enough at 1440p. Using DLSS at 1080p is a total crutch.
>DLSS Quality looks better than native
What form of copium is this?
It does. You have direct image comparisons in this very thread. Are you afraid to click them because they'll confuse you?
>You have direct image comparisons in this very thread.
Okay, where?
Here:
3060 is great for dlss performance at 4k, easily better than consoles
>$350-400 for a 1080p card
Yeah no a 7600 is enough
It's a viable 4k 30fps card
Picked one up for $220 a couple of weeks ago. I love it so far
It's $320 nowdays
for raster yes
for ray tracing, 3060/3060 ti would be better.
Meme tech. Will wait for 5060
>ray tracing
>3060/3060 ti
Black person what
im laughing everytime they come up with a new meme setting that wont be usable until 20 years after release but then i start crying when i see people like you who fall for it
recommend a card without the meme setting then, every new card has it. a 1660 super is just a reskinned 1060 6gb basically. so what choice do we have left?
I have a 3060 dlss is gey
thats 6600
FSR3 is a fricking disaster
Gangraped by bad frame times
Cope post of the week.
Screech harder, Dlssidiot.
Love my 3060, do not regret my purchase
It probably could do some games @ 1440p, but yeah that definitely passes the 1080p threshold. Smoother frametimes than the 6500 and 6600. iirc 6700XT even has FSR3 support when that comes out. Solid AMD card to hold one off for a few years until another upgrade, imho.
i'd look into used cards if i were you. got a barely used completely fine working 6900xt for like 400 bucks
I have a 6650, it's pretty good for what I use it for
7600 for $250 if you only care about native 1080p without raytracing.
4060 for $300 if you care about DLSS, frame generation, or raytracing. AMD's equivalents just aren't up to snuff.
>4060 for $300 if you care about DLSS, frame generation, or raytracing
All homosexual meme shit.
RT especially is an absolute joke at XX60 tier, always has been. You are cutting your already dogshit performance essentially in half for better lighting. Activating DLSS 3.0? Enjoy your artifacting and input lag just for some lighting effects lmao.
RT and DLSS isn't great at 1080p, sure. Frame gen is still worth it, however.
AMD is just using simple software algorithms. NVIDIA is using a supercomputer to train their AI and dedicated hardware on your card to achieve their results.
Meds
>NVIDIA is using a supercomputer to train their AI and dedicated hardware on your card to achieve their results.
And yet FSR 3 gives you just as many frames with comparable image quality using that "simple algorithms." And that's without mentioning the "hardware" Nvidia features that managed to get modded onto older cards. Stop falling for marketing hype brainlet.
>AMD is just using simple software algorithms
Nvidia said that doing frame generation using software alone was impossible. AMD proved them wrong.
i got some snake oil in the back to sell you as well
>AMD's equivalents just aren't up to snuff.
I'm trans btw xD
Once again, AMD's response to nVidia is a year late and worse quality.
is there any explanation of why amd pajeets have taken over? is everybody poor? what made nvidia lose sales? the memes of poor performance and else, can't be true. What's the real reason? even AI hasn't turned the tables.
>is everybody poor?
Anyone paying more than what a product is worth to prove that they are not "m-muh poorgay" is irremediably moronic and deserves whatever they get.
shut up, I am talking to the circus owner not THE ANIMALS
>what made nvidia lose sales?
Nvidia's extreme israeliness to the point of having the consumer darling known as EVGA exiting the market for good, their upgrade programs and bulletproof RMAs were effectively gold standard and nothing else in the industry remotely comes close.
Believe it or not but that rattled a lot of Nvidia diehards.
oh i totally forgot about evga. guess that's most of it.
Keep in mind this applies doubly so to the US market where companies will do everything possible to frick you out of an RMA.
t. had Gigabyte RMA a GPU back to me with no work done on it 3 days after warranty ended and refused to help further.
>is there any explanation of why amd pajeets have taken over? is everybody poor?
Why are you morons trying to defend Nvidia's moronic business decisions? People only went to AMD because they didn't completely frick over their customers, and people will move to Intel's Battlemage GPU if they priced it right with decent features. This corporate wienersucking is moronic.
All corporations are bad, what a new and impressive discovery. I still trust shitvidia more than amd, homosexual.
I want my anime breasts, and I am gonna get them, frick off.
>I still trust shitvidia more than amd, homosexual.
lmao sure buddy, you are a fricking drone giving your money to "shitvidia". Enjoy your garbage AI porn.
I do, anon. And it is free, and no dumb artist is demanding gorillions for a simple sketch, nor do they refuse my requests. You say shitty porn like AI draws in ms paint doodles, but you are very wrong.
In the EU the 6700XT is only a few euros more expensive than either and it's much faster still.
I got it for 1440p and it runs great for every game I've played.
FSR 3 is good you fart huffing moron.
>"dude, using some shitty AI upscaling is better than native lmao"
Nvidrones are worse than cattle.
literally improves image quality but okay
DLSS looks better than native if enabling DLSS lets you crank some settings. Otherwise it's obviously inferior.
DLAA, however, is the best form of antialiasing.
pixelated billboards, no thanks. rather run native or actually lower the res myself
Nah
I have it for 2k gaming, so I guess no?
>5600X + RX7600
yay or nay
You're just asking to get raped by UE5.
>UE5
What about it?
It's a good card and UE5 games aren't playable without FSR 3 anyway. Why not AM5 though? Am4 is a dead platform anon, at least this way you get DDR5 and 9900x3d access.
>Why not AM5 though?
Cheapest one costs $80 more than the 5600X here. Is it worth it?
Unironically I would rather get 4060, they are nearly the same price at least in my c**try and performance but nGreedia just has better features. They both have only 8GB of VRAM so that sucks.
If games keep being so poorly optimized you won't get native 1080p 60 with decent settings anyway.
Nshitia features aren't that much better to justify settling for 8gb vram and the nvidia tax in the current year. He could get a 12gb 6700 XT for like $300 instead with the same performance.
wrong. 4070 is
>AMD
holy fricking cringe
I'm a trans 40 series owner btw not sure if that matters
>A year ago the 6700 non XT was the 1440p king
>Now the more powerful XT model is the 1080p king
This shit truly needs to stop asap.
>This shit truly needs to stop asap.
In case you haven't noticed, new titles run at near 720p on current gen already.
console homosexuals are content playing 720p 30fps capped with their 4k TV screens, it will never stop
>AMd poojeets at it again
SIRS YOU NEED THE 40 SERIESES DO THE NEEDFUL
no you don't get it, buy your amd trash. when you realize it can't even do AI shit and the drivers suck, you will come back crying to daddy nvidia, kiddo. So use and enjoy your garbage. There is a reason why every AI server is nvidia only, sweet heart.
>it can't even do AI
lol
>drivers suck
Were you hibernated 15 years ago and just now woke up?
>He can't even say anything about all servers for AI shit being basedvidia
Just what I thought. the aymd shill can lie and say drivers work, and their hardware is great, but when faced with big servers all using nvidia, he has 0 arguments.
What argument? I am playing videogames not generating porn all day. Nobody needs AI shit on consumer cards
>NOBODY NEEDS IT
first cope. And still not even trying to counter the fact that even servers without AI shit use nvidia, and not gaymd- Cope accepted.
imagine paying $1500 more for less performance
AMD has no high end cards though
And yet the 7900XTX manages to compete with the 4090 in some titles
>even servers
What servers, troony? The ones on debian? Wtf I love linux now time to buy amd
>troony
opinion disregarded
and even linux has nvidia drivers.
>Linux Nvidia drivers
BAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHHAA
You’re too stupid to see the big picture. Sorry you’re a little gamer boy who doesn’t know how the real world works. Stay mad that Nvidia can outspend AMD
You type like a fricking homosexual lol. My amd card gives me better frametimes than either of my nvidia ones did. Cope sir.
cry more amdiot. still waiting for your refutation of big real servers all using basedvidia, and not amd garbage.
>>"amdiot"
>not amdrone
>immediately thinks of nvidiot instead of his own insults
KEK
Servers use Nvidia gpus because AMD doesn't create cards for that market. Coincidentally server shit is the only reason why Nvidia stock is doing well. Most of 40 series is flopping hard for consumers and is getting buttraped by the 7800 xt.
the insult of amd shills is only nvidiot. However there is gaymd, which you can't refute. Because you are all unironic homosexuals.
And yet your tiny underage brain couldn't even think of it when you sent that original reply, or defend your moronic argument when I actually refuted it. Enjoy your $800 70 series cards dumbshit.
I used it earlier and I use it all the time, homo. Also cope accepted.
>still no argument
Concession and cope accepted sir
not coping, i have a nvidia card, you don't. end of discussion.
Yeah and I'll enjoy my superior card pricing, superior vram, frametimes and free open-source features that even Nshitia manchilds can take advantage of. You're welcome gayboy.
still rocking my RX 5700 from 4 years ago for 1080p without any problems for modern gayms
at least 1440p, can max armored core 6 at 4k with 50ish fps
6700xt is over kill for 1080p. That's a 1440p GPU
Not really if you intend to play new AAA garbage, 6700XT is only ~15% faster than 7600 or 4060. Going from 1080p to 1440p will cost you 30-40% FPS. No unstable 60FPS isn't enough.
3060 is the new 1060
nah 4060 is. You are outdated.
I search my local ebay and 4060 non ti costs the same as a 3060 non ti, uses less power and gives more performance. Charts hate the 4060, though.
>Charts hate the 4060, though
Statistics hate the 4060 because its a piece of shit. It's a 4050 with a 60 moniker.
>8GB vram piece of shit
Worse gpu you can buy at $300 price range.
we were talking about the 3060 compared to 4060. You can't get a better card for the same price of the 3060, frick off brain dead idiot. Also that's why people buy the 4070/4060 with 16gb or don't upgrade.
>buy the 3060
>when you can get a RX 5700xt that gets within 2% of the 3060 for $100 less
shut up gaymd homosexual. I rather play games on igpu than use your trash brand ever again.
>"my" brand
>implying I simp for corporations over value for money
Oh you poor little man rajesh
you are a frogeposter, everything you say is null and void.
>frogeposter
Compared to what, your inability to type in English?
>imbecile frogeposter doesn't get that "froge" is to insult further his shitty underage meme
typical. stay in school, kid.
Sounds more like you need to go back Patel.
Maybe sell that RTX GPU for a bus pass so you can go to the local community college?
Lord knows you need it.
pure copium. insult me more, if it can even be called that. Maybe you can say you fricked my mum next? surprise me, clown.
>Maybe you can say you fricked my mum next?
Your dad is my submissive bottom.
Will you revive him as a zombie from the grave, or will you frick his rotting corpse and bones?
>BRO LE VRAM IS SO IMPORTANT
>literally 3 games require over 8gb of vram and one of them fixed the issue within a month.
It is important, but for video rendering, phoshop and AI stuff. and amd fails at AI stuff, so even the ram is useless there.
All modern games require over 8GB of VRAM at 4K+
by "all modern games" do you mean, hogwarts legacy, resi4make with the moronicly high res max texture setting, immortals of aveum and the last of us?
>4070
>7700x
There. You're set for 1080p gaymen for the next decade.
The iGPU in my 7950x3d alone mogs every single card mentioned ITT.
nvidia's new tech is so heckin amazing
Thats ray reconstruction for Pathtracing though
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DELETE THIS NOW
YOU ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO COMPARE SCREENSHOTS OF STATIC SCENES
i have noticed this smearing with RR as well. I thought it was me fricking with DLSS settings in the ini that did it but it seems to be RR. Kind of annoying because otherwise RR is great for reflections and stopping that annoying light trail thing you get with normal path tracing.
That's not upscaler smearing, that's ray reconstruction smearing.
Yes, because this is the generation of the Linux desktop, and you need AMD on Linux.
I'm using a 3060 Ti with an i5-12400. It works for 1080p pretty well.
It's about perfect 1080p performance this gen.
6700 XT with 5600 is essentially the same, a little better in some titles.
I bought a 6700 XT STRIX during the height of covid prices, and the only game i played on it that was made in the last 20 years was Kenshi.
it's a 4k card
Good morning sirs
For me its the all white
for me it's the $70 vega 56
1080p is all you need.
I can't take seriously people who advocate DLSS
I can't take seriously people who are stuck with 1080p 60Hz displays.
enjoy your fake framey, dude.
[shimmers uncontrollably in the distance]
You described TAA.
If your game uses older version of DLSS with graphical issues you can just swap .dll for newer version and you'll see huge difference.
DLSS looks like shit on 1080p because it's rendering at 720p, but you can try DLSS + DSR to get effectively DLAA.
And that looks good even on crappy monitor.
>DLSS looks like shit
say no more senpai
I know I'm on the wining side, I just wanted to help you.
how can you help him if you can't even help yourself? now, kneel.
>wining
>whining
Clearly.
DLSS is new "eye can't see past 30fps"
Only antisemites can spot ghosting.
>defending israelitery
WOW HOW UNEXPECTED
Ye
>AMD
Lmao.
I just started playing Cyberpunk 2077 with my RTX 2060. My settings? 2560x1440 resolution, DLSS set to balanced (barely any difference to native 1440p presentation), all settings set to high except goytracing off. My FPS? around 70-80fps and game looks fricking great. DLSS is unironically so fricking good and amd WISHES they could compete with it.
dont care about 4k wankery. just need solid performance at 1440p
>7800x3d
>7900xtx
>7800x3d
your cpu is too weak for that card
>bottleneck calculators
>1080p
for $750 would this piece of shit run any game made from 2015 and back at full settings?
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tpzcbL
easily, but I would bump the cpu up to a 3600 or 5600 if you can manage it.
Buying used should save you a lot of cash if you don't mind used parts.
I built a pc just like half a year ago and I am craving to build a new set up. How do I deal with these feels bros
please no bait. I do use my two desktops, one in bed and the other at work. I don't just buy shit to let it get dusty.
I need to get a new GPU because my last one died, I don't have a lot of money so I'm looking at a 6750 or 3060ti, both are at the same price for me, what do you guys think?
I have an older i9900k and a 1440p screen.
use amd or Ganker poojeets will say you are stupid in every "post your gpu" thread. it is the current law of the land.
Do you know if any card would have advantages for playing ARMA 3? It's the main game I'll be playing, I wonder if the higher VRAM from AMD will help? I'm leaning towards it to be honest.
Since you have a 9900k, get the 6750xt. Radeon drivers scale better with older cpus.
That is assuming you don't care about generating ai anime breasts. But if you're even considering amd then I assume you don't.
Really happy with my $320 6700 XT on Linux
7W idle usage and the fan turns off, low profile card, runs at 95C at max load but that's just the new normal.
Great performance, RE4 ran typically 80+ fps on 1440p max settings with (no FSR or RT)
>RE4 pozz
the power of "muh nu card" homosexuals.
We hate RE4 now?
I am not a zoomer, so i am not Ganker.
ada's voice actress is so bad in this one. whoever did her voice in re2make was so million times better
Weak cooler. My red devil 6700xt idles around 38c with fan stop and hits 55c/70c edge/hotspot at max load with 60% fan.
>runs at 95C at max load but that's just the new normal.
It is not, anon. You have a problem there.
It's good enough for 1440p 144hz tbqh.
6600 is true 1080p king for the price but 6700xt is second best card even great for 1440p excluding all the trash they call recent games that are not optimized
>have a 1070
>only care about 1080p because i'm a cheap frick but also only really care about big budget triple a stuff with great graphics and horrible optimization
>thought about buying a used 6800 on ebay but terrified of making a terrible investment
I hate being a cheap bastard
Checking in
Nah. I play everything at 1080p with a RX580 8gb 60+ fps
>I play everything at 1080p with a RX580 8gb 60+ fps
No you don't. You turn things down to 720-900p or pray for FSR, and you turn settings way down. Or you play older games.
t. rx 480 user who knows you're full of it
I have a 6800XT. Is that good for ray tracing? Got a free copy of starfield with it too
>"Hey bro, you should buy this rip-off of a GPU because you can turn on some shitty AI upscaling to play your video games at 1080p, if you don't agree that the shitty AI upscaling is better than native, you're coping"
genuine mental illness
real chads use DLSR to upscale the image to 1440p/4k and then DLSS to downscale it back to 1080 for a better final image.
https://imgsli.com/MjExODg3/1/2
it is better than native most of the time though
you are talking to unironic corporate shills that are making it their mission to fool everyone into thinking that DLSS is the best feature ever.
I just assume they have terrible eyesight because it looks like smudges on a window especially with textures.
> if you don't agree that the shitty AI upscaling is better than native, you're coping
You literally have image comparisons in this very thread showing you that it's the same at worst, and often better.
Now post a video instead of a cherry picked screenshot.
You have countless videos on youtube to choose from showing you it's the same fricking thing in motion. I can record one for you if you really want but it'll take time to edit in the 400% zooms for motion detail and it'll likely be done after the thread's gone though.
Let me guess, you need more?
My gf bought it, seems pretty happy about it.
>1080p in 2023
Your point being?
Yes.
>1080p in 2023
Why is everyone shit on here...
This badboy Let's me play at 2k with no problem, to think i almost buy a 3070 AND it's cucked vram instead