Anons
I'm losing hope , I just can't beat malenia
I started playing this game on release ,220h later and i still haven't finished the game yet
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Anons
I'm losing hope , I just can't beat malenia
I started playing this game on release ,220h later and i still haven't finished the game yet
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>I started playing this game on release ,220h later and i still haven't finished the game yet
Not even normalgays play this slow.
I gave up the main file and started new games with some of them being radomized enemies / items
>Stamp should send her flying into the air letting you followup with a charged R2
> Light roll makes it very easy to avoid waterfowl
this is exactly what i'm doing , i even got the timing of waterfowl
yet it only takes one hit from her to stagger me to death
To help your survivability since of course anybody is going to get hit eventually, find the dragoncrest greatshield talisman if you don't already have it. Or use a weaker version. It's actually a big boost to damage absorption in PvE. Plus greatjar for more load so you can use more armor while still light rolling.
>dragoncrest greatshield
that's actually a good idea , it raises my defenses by almost 19% and the greatjar talisman does keep me under the light roll threshold
ran out of stats to level
Should get 60 vig since that's the next hardcap
use your crouch+light attack poke. it staggers her big time and it's quick
i don't understand why randomly her attacks have hyperarmor
these are my stats
Stamp should send her flying into the air letting you followup with a charged R2. That's a lot of poise damage.
What exactly are you having trouble with? Light roll makes it very easy to avoid waterfowl. Some of her other attacks are harder to deal with imo.
You might want to replace one of your stamina talismans with a dragoncrest for physical resist, vs Malenia it really helps to be able to take an extra hit or two, or just barely be able to survive a failed waterfowl dodge.
>50 Endurance
>50 END
>no armor
>not even a talisman to boost attack with low equip load
fricking why?
that talisman raises my AR by mere 14 points
i really didn't have anything else to level up
you should wear the bull goat armor, it'll massively help with your defense against her mostly physical damage
You don't want to get hit by her or she heals.
yes i know and my ungabunga str/dex/end split build was able to blast her ass into space dual-weilding two axes regardless of her gay little life steal
either that or respec and put 10pts of end into vig, the health will help a lot more than end would at that point
>50 vigor
>50 end
>no armor
I imagine you're getting oneshot by half of her combos. You should at least upgrade your weapon to +25
i don't want to use those rock cause they're finite
and yeah she one shots me with almost all her combos
i really hate using shields
i bought both nioh and nioh 2 but i still haven't touched them yet
Refund them or get them deleted from your Steam account; those games are all about using every single mechanic available, from ki pulse to onmyo, from living weapon to demon cores.
Someone like you that sees his toolset as "cheese" will have a miserable experience with both games.
I'll put it like this, neither Nioh game has i-frames as cheap as Elden Ring Souls (they exist, but they're extremely limited compared to what From games use) so many times you have to BLOCK and sometimes you have to DODGE. . Not i-frame abuse but actually dodging the enemy's attacks so they don't touch you.
Disgusting, isn't it?
i'm not not that obstinate
if the game requires different tactics i'll do so
I got them in a sale , I don't want a refund even if I don't end up playing them at all
>50 END
not anymore , kek
I put 10 pts into vigor
>"I'm above shields!"
>"I'm above summons even when I've been stuck here for several dozen hours!"
Yes, you are that obstinate.
Trust me on this one; someone who refuses to explore other viable tactics beyond hitting his head against the wall has no business playing the Niohs. You wasted your money.
You will remember my words when you make the obligatory thread b***hing about how the first or second boss is filtering you and the game is a piece of shit and you can't simply i-frame everything.
alright that's on me
but that's how i have been playing all the soul games , using a 2-handed heavy weapon,learning the moveset/openings and timing dodges
And that's good, stick to your ideals.
You just have to git gud.
And funnily enough asking strangers for tips and suggestions is still cheating; you're using someone else's talents and experience to get over a hurdle rather than figuring it yourself.
Kind of true, I learned how to dodge the waterfowl dance by trial and error.
You just have to persevere and keep a clear head.
>REEEEE DON'T DO THAT THAT IS BAD JUST PRESS THE EASY BUTTON TO WIN
Hey, you do you. Never be ashamed of living the way you want.
That said, you are posting on an anonymous image board. It's our obligation to grill you. Take the plunge. Summon the bros!
i'm willing to use a bucler to parry her and that's it
no gay it's for the light roll
also i have a helmet
You should get a few more points into vigor, and at 50 endurance, you should be able to wear at least a few more pieces of armor while still maintaining light load.
Dual wield Chadagon greatswords instead of Gayhander, use R2 to stagger that b***h lol
Put some armor on you fricking moron
>159
>Can't beat prostitute
summon me I'll take care of it
Put some fricking armor on since you levelled up END already
Malenia is prone to getting stunlocked, just run once she jumps and halts in the air (waterfowl combo)
+25 your main weapon FFS
Replace that 2nd talisman with something useful like dragoncrest ones to bank on physical defense
>dragoncrest talisman
i already did that
i won't +25 any weapons at all
i will lose the light roll by putting armor
unironically yes
but being naked has a purpose now
Summon some fricking help. Ignore the "YOU DIDN'T BEAT THE GAME!!!1" gaytards. They are all tryhard gaystacks with no social interaction skills that are afraid of other people.
unfortunately, i'm one of those gaytards but for a good reason , i really do enjoy the rhythmic nature of the combat during boss fights
summoning will turn the fight into a chaotic gangbang and i won't feel good doing
I'm not looking for help , i'm just crying about it
I see. Then enjoy your suffering, I guess.
I watched a guy take 2999 attempts at her before he beat her. I'm sure you can do it if he did.
i have a fricking job
i did try
but i lose the light roll which is my main strategy to deal with waterfown
i already respec'd and got 60 vig and 40 end
anon just throw a freezing pot to deal with waterfowl
no thank you
i knew the frostbite staggers her out the attack but i rather learn the timing and positioning as anon says
i have the greatsword upgraded to +24 but i enjoy the zwei poke more even though it's has a better str scaling
Just cap vigor to 60 and upgrade the sword, keep trying anon.
thank you anon
>Not even the fricking pots, of all things
Now I'm 1000% convinced: stay away from any game that isn't DaS PTDE.
>how dare you not take the easy way out ugh
My strategy was
Phase 1: jump + strong attack with dial-wielding giant hammers; she staggers and is vulnerable to a critical hit after three or four hits. It's very important to only attack her with a full stamina bar so you have enough energy to escape. I think it's deliberate given how if you run to the other end of the arena she just walks, giving you time to regenerate your stamina.
When she used her anime attack, I just switched to the fingerprint shield and block; she earns health back but the stagger + riposte damages her way more. Repeat until she dies.
Second phase: I just summoned Tiche lol; that phase was just too hard and chaotic to me.
Worked on both NG and NG+.
i unironically found her 2nd phase easier
I also don't want to cheese her with summons or use shields
Not even shields? Enjoy retrying that fight forever, I guess.
And don't even bother with non-From games like a Nioh or a DMC game; refusing to use those games' gameplay mechanics won't get you far or will make the experience boring.
Get nagakiba
Put on unsheathe
Play like a b***h and get heavy unsheathes in when she's walking or after an attack.
If you light roll backwards she can't catch you except with the first attack of the combo.
If her attacks are too fast for you use one of the steam control layouts that let you roll on button press instead of button release.
Summon some dudes and cheese it. Who are you trying to prove what to? Use the game systems they give you.
>Summon some dudes and cheese it
what's the point of the fight if i did win that easily
>what's the point of the fight if i did win that easily
That's like saying you don't want to use the magnum in your hand because it's unfair to the bear about to eat your ass.
Kill the Elden Beast, become Elden Lord.
Spam Blasphemous blade special attack.
Humanity didn't evolve to be the dominant species on the whole fricking planet by refusing to use the pointy stick!
You're fricking naked you stupid c**t.
He doesn't want to cheese by using gear. "You didn't beat the game" and all of that.
I did it so you can too, simple as.
Took me like 6 hours in total
>Using a melee weapon and clothes
Something something you didn't beat her something something
Anything that isn't magic or dex is fine in my books.
Keep seething shitter.
Man this mindset really needs to frick off
Use the tools the game provides, beating her using only your flaccid dick isn't going to make you feel any better afterwards
Lmao I'm 225 hours and I'm about to finish my second play through.
have you tried to stop being a fricking moron and use mimic with two katanas and uplifting perfume like a normal person?
I was able to beat her and I'm at lvl124.
Just give up.
Is malenia another shitty berserk reference?
have a nice day moron.
>Naked and using the Zweihander and nothing else
I just realized that OP is one of those morons who got his brain so rotted by Dark Souls 1 that he can't play any other game without relying on that particular game's meta.
>naked
>dark souls 1 meta
speedtrannies are not meta
armor is moronicly op in 1 and is the reason why it's now useless
Use mimic
All you need to understand to beat her is you can only hit her right after she attacks. Make a habit of instantly running full speed backwards whenever she returns to idle animation, so you are safe in case of waterfowl. The most dogshit boss in history for sure
>dogshit boss in history for sure
Coming from the most dogshit player doesn't mean much.
I beat entire game RL1 cope harder
Malenia, buckbreaker of Miquella
lol just get the fallingstar beast jaw and spam the weapon art how is that hard?
what's with cheesy methods that Ganker is suggesting
did any of you beat the game ?
People that play the game for clout or peer pressure just wanting to get it over with as soon as possible
I sure felt that way once I reached the snowy areas but I still took a six months break before continuing
Nope, I'm a incantation enjoyer.
I've beat the game plenty.
>still no great fist weapons
i really need a fist weapon that has a kicks and something to close the gap
>no great fist weapons
anon, are you on crack again?
>spiked caestus
>heavy +25 cragblade
>60 vigor
>60 strength
>80+ poise, armor up
Enjoy.
fist weapons peaked with ds2
even the regular punches have no scaling in this game