Are people ready to accept that these are great games?
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they are shit games and your skin is brown
Nope, but keep projecting
I'm brown and all rpg are trash
Play real games
They always were. Only millennial ecelebs hated them.
Why bother tbh? Online FF gays are insane. Everyone else already knows XIII is one of the good modern ones along with XV.
>Everyone knows 13 is one of the good modern ones
Yeah
>Along with 15.
No.
3 is fun
First one is dog shit
Never played 2
I decided to actually revisit 13 and yeah it's still a fricking tedious bore to play. If you like theae games you need to be locked in a sensory deprivation chamber.
if you liked that shit unironically you should really consider suicide
13-1 might have the worst game mechanics. But I enjoyed its story. 13-2 and 13-3's story is so atrociously confusing and dogshit, I couldn't bring myself to play an hour in each game.
JRPGs are finicky for me. I can play one where the gamplay is shit, bit if the story is good/decent I won't mind playing thru it. But if the story is shit, I don't care how good the gameplay is, I'm not finishing it.
>A series of hallways with borderline automatic combat featuring a character whose name is literally synonymous with "character who is widely reviled but the company keeps pretending everybody loves her and keeps shoving them in your face anyways"
>great
But enough about FFX
FF13 trilogy was probably the most ambitious FF series. It's true value won't be recognized for decades when the stigma is entirely irrelevant.
>It is true value
Why are people pushing revisionism for some of the shittiest games ever made?
The people responsible for them still work, changing the common consensus means they wouldn't need to justify a defense of [hot upcoming product] when people identify the presence of maligned figures, example the FF7 Remake series having the same director.
FINALLY, a good thread
Always were
>it's bad because a youtuber said so
probably the biggest example of millennial brainrot
I vaguely recall playing the one where the party was basically just two people and it was kinda eh.
after beating 15 (no DLCs.patches), I see these games as "okay" at best
>3,4 and 5 in different tiers
You didnt play the games
3 was the DS version
4 is okay but is clouded by Nostalgia
5, I gained better appreciation after Fiesta runs
Damn, that's a really, really bad tier list lmao.
>Swap II with XII
>Swap VII with X
>Put IV in A
That's my list
>millions of gaymers get filtered by having to read a log
Tone is awful
Level design is awful
Worldbuilding is awful
Naming convention is awful
Combat is autobattler tier awful
Characters are (majority) awful whiny and/or moronic
Creator thinks his OC donutsteel is the best thing ever and forces out two more shits on my plate
I'll be cold and dead in the ground before I recognise it as even a game, let alone a mainline FF
They aren't great, but I'll admit I did like them.. you now remember that scene where Hope tried to stab Snow and how ridiculous it looked.
13-2 and Lightning Returns are great. 13 is more like a visual novel than an actual game tho.
Youtubers went into a schizo crusade against it, probably because it was the first mainline FF not exclusive to Playstation in a while. They shat on it for being a movie game but the same people today love The Last of Us and God of War, they complain about linearity but are big fans of FFX, they say Lightning is too cold and aloof but their favorite FF characters are Cloud and Squall.
>probably because it was the first mainline FF not exclusive to Playstation in a while.
That is 100% the core reason. Notice how after the PS3 version came out, a decent chunk of them 'came around'
Never forget this one fact with XIII-2
>Introduces an Item that you get from doing paradoxes
>Straight up tells you it's optional
>First paradox that you can access has Tonberrys, leaving the implication that you should save them for later
>Get to just certain point in game
>lol you actually need those items to progress loser
Frick that game
I actually enjoyed all three but also they are abhorrent abominations with dozens of glaring flaws.