Best system for Dragon Ball games.

So recently after Toriyama's death I rereaded the original Dragon Ball manga and I rewatched some of the movies again, after this I had a question in my mind, wich is the tabletop gaming system wich bests captures the spirit of the fights in Dragon Ball?
To clarify I mean the battles of the "Dragon Ball Z" part of the series, with flying at high speeds, big ki attacks and explosions everywhere.
I know about pic related and I heard it's fine but since I can't currently tested it, I want to know your opinions.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Either Exalted 2E or the dice pool game in the AnimeRPG rebrand.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous Magnate

      Exalted are street level. Roshi solos that entire setting in a day.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong. Exalted are weird because they scale infinitely upward. They have Charms that stop, kill, rewrite, remake, etc, anything, but anything is only as impressive as the opponents. They even have the ability to force a setting to obey their settings laws.

        Problem is brainlets run Exalted and think fighting a dude in armor is cool.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Being able to hit ghosts and block some attacks a few times per fight doesn't make them strong. At best they can become Bulma and craft some mcguffins, but only in the lore, they can't do it in actual games.

          i understand that dbz is so stupid that enough push ups allows you to crack planets and no-sell nukes but even you should recognize that goku could not beat someone capable of rewriting reality at will
          his number is not sufficiently big. sorry.

          First of all, they can't do shit to reality. Secondly, DB characters can nosell conceptual nonsense with raw power levels.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >hit ghosts
            Yes, and also eat the souls of cthonic entities that ate a universe.

            >a few times
            3e revisionist horse shit, Exalt's problem used to be it was impossible to kill them because they could infinitely use their perfects.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >3e revisionist horse shit, Exalt's problem used to be it was impossible to kill them because they could infinitely use their perfects.
              They couldn't, you dumb frick nogame. They also have no defined feats in the lore outside of losing to what's supposed to be the weakest exalt type in the setting, so you can't even ballpark their capabilities, all you have are these esoteric misinterpretations of awful rules.

              But let's stick to the horrendous game mechanics for a second. A round takes roughly 3 seconds. This means an exalt can attack ONCE per 3 seconds unless they burn their limited mana to attack maybe up to 5 times in 3 seconds. Wow!

              Excellencies boost their capabilities up to TWICE that of a normal human of regular skill.

              Exalts couldn't even beat fricking Spiderman, let alone anyone in Dragonball.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >hit ghosts
                Yes, and also eat the souls of cthonic entities that ate a universe.

                >a few times
                3e revisionist horse shit, Exalt's problem used to be it was impossible to kill them because they could infinitely use their perfects.

                I made a thread about dragon ball and powerscalers appear, it's like pottery

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Power scaling is the sole reason you're not just using D&D with Monks only for your Dragonball game.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                well also because dnd is shit and wouldn't represent it well.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Hasn't stopped people from suggesting shit like Exalted and Anima which are both borderline unplayable.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >not just using D&D with Monks only for your Dragonball game.
                This somehow sounds less fun than playing Mage entirely rules as written.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You really think that the power scaling is the thing that makes me playing that shit?

                >do not let this turn into a powerscale wank thread
                The very first time we see a kamehameha it destroys a mountain
                The second time we see it, it destroys the moon
                Roshi, who invented the technique and is responsible for one of the above two feats, said the Kamehameha doesn't hold a candle to the kikoho
                We see the kikoho used three times, each time it only blows a hole in the ground.
                Logically speaking, 22nd budokai Tien should've been a planet buster. Also Devilman solos the Freeza Force and Beerus would be wise to fear Monster Carrot.
                Also Jesus and Buddha are both canon, but I don't know where in the ever changing hierarchy of divines. This also raises questions like whether Jesus could beat Radditz.

                None of the above is a joke by the way.

                Toriyama GMing would be making up the entire thing every night before the session and not taking any notes hoping to remember everything but it would still work out because everything is very cool as long as you don't think about it too much

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty much
                >The final floor of the vampire's castle is guarded by three ogres, each as strong as the strongest guy in the party.
                >Wait, didn't we defeat the king of ogres three sessions ago? Didn't you say he was the strongest ogre in the world?
                >Oh yeah... I guess I did say that! *raughs*... anyway the ogres attack!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Your character finally gets a his own girlfriend
                >The DM forgets about her and you never see her again
                Also he would make human only gays mad because only freakshit races have any relevance

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Humans but with tails isn't much of a freak race, anon.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Reminder at this juncture that Exalted became popular on RPGnet at the exact time that RPGnet became populated with people who take pride in never actually playing rpgs, so more than likely, the average exalted fan (or hater) has never played the game once in their life, but is certain that it's good (or terrible) based on vibes and impeccable math

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >he didn't have infinite mote generation engines
                Very sad and never played the game, clearly.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i understand that dbz is so stupid that enough push ups allows you to crack planets and no-sell nukes but even you should recognize that goku could not beat someone capable of rewriting reality at will
        his number is not sufficiently big. sorry.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    shameful bumb

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anima Beyond Fantasy can get the moronic powerlevels.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's got tactical combat, but also has all the fun stuff like massive AoE Ultimate attacks, Transformations, slamming people through terrain, and doing crazy shit with special resources.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah that's the kind of game I wanted to know about. I'm interested in this kind of games because apart from my interest in Dragon Ball, I actually never played a game when we actually get to the part when we can do crazy shit. Everytime I participate in a combat focus campaign and it progress to the point in wich we actually start feeling to be really strong something happens and it ends, so I never got to do a power trip like that in a game.

      It's not really fine. If you just pump hit and defenses no one can touch you and no one can avoid you. It's a simple kinda dumb system.

      Sad to hear but I'm not surprised because I started to read it after making the thread and It really was kinda meh

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        One of the enemies I prepared for the party's next encounter has an attack that is a 25 space line that knocks anyone back 3 spaces and blows through walls damn good, and that's just at level 5

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's not really fine. If you just pump hit and defenses no one can touch you and no one can avoid you. It's a simple kinda dumb system.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    BESM
    Marvel TSR

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    GURPS

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Please dear God, do not let this turn into a powerscale wank thread. I've been trying to find a system to run DB since I started rewatching the series in order.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >do not let this turn into a powerscale wank thread
      The very first time we see a kamehameha it destroys a mountain
      The second time we see it, it destroys the moon
      Roshi, who invented the technique and is responsible for one of the above two feats, said the Kamehameha doesn't hold a candle to the kikoho
      We see the kikoho used three times, each time it only blows a hole in the ground.
      Logically speaking, 22nd budokai Tien should've been a planet buster. Also Devilman solos the Freeza Force and Beerus would be wise to fear Monster Carrot.
      Also Jesus and Buddha are both canon, but I don't know where in the ever changing hierarchy of divines. This also raises questions like whether Jesus could beat Radditz.

      None of the above is a joke by the way.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >None of the above is a joke by the way.
        No shit, unlike most Dragon Ball fans I've actually watched and read Dragon Ball instead of consuming powerwank threads.
        "Muh Goku solos Exalted" does not remotely help in finding a system for a Dragon Ball game.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Use the OP or make your own. No game works well for DB. Run it in BESM or M&M.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    try dragon ball universe

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