>better than anything squeenix has put out in the last decade
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VI is literally the best Final Fantasy, SE will never make anything better.
7
>7
Only if you are edgy teenager.
Just say you haven't actually played FF7. It's painfully obvious you haven't if you all got was "lol edgy" from shitty memes that take more from Advent Children than FF7 proper.
I completed it. I played all of them, at release time, in their original consoles.
Sorry but FF7 is just not the best. The people that say that FF7 are the best are always the same gays that played that as their first FF.
But it is not the worst, it is still miles better than 8 or anything past X.
My first FF was 1, I have 2 copies of it on NES, my favorite is 5, I dumped hundreds of days into FFXI, I hated 8, 9 was okay. I loved 6 from front to back, but 7, 7 was the game changer and probably the "best" FF game ever made, there is no denying it. People who deny it are either trying to be clowns, FF6 dickriders because FF6 was the first one they played, or they don't understand the scope of how much FF7 totally mainstreamified and destroyed jrpgs as a whole.
It's the best one. Period, because it's from an era where trying new things didn't mean instant bankruptcy.
>FFVII was trying new things
>First FF with a Black person
Sorry mate. You just have babby tier taste.
The best FF is not even VI, but I'm not going to discuss further with plebs.
I’m not a pleb what’s the best one gay
>cries about Barret of all things wrong with ff7
lmao
not being a medieval/steampunk fantasy game within the series for one. It had the idea of being modern without being overboard sci-fi crazy. It was familiar yet unique. Having a setting like that is really hard to accomplish.
Also introducing FMVs and minigames that were actually fun to the series that are still used even today. One got so popular it has it's own vidya spin off. I'll let you figure out what it is.
>not being a medieval/steampunk fantasy game within the series for one
That's not trying new things and FF """settings""" have always been an incoherent, underdeveloped mess, with FF7 being no exception.
>It had the idea of being modern without being overboard sci-fi crazy.
I don't know bro, city wide cannons, arm vulcans, super robots and kaiju is pretty sci-fi crazy.
>It was familiar yet unique.
Meaningless buzzwords
>Also introducing FMVs and minigames that were actually fun
None of those minigames were fun, though admittedly the core gameplay of FF7 is so atrocious I guess they were indirectly elevated, and FMVs were the warning sign that the series turned full moviegame on that spot.
Were's the actually new stuff? The game is linear as shit, there's zero player agency as usual, Materia is just Esper 2.0 which in itself was just a watered down skill slot system like FF5's job system, there's nothing new in actual game terms, even Limit Breaks were already done in FF6 and that's just another gimmick at the end of the day.
Why not just admit you don't like the game and move on? No one cares what you think, as it's clearly still going to be the best Final Fantasy game ever made no matter how much you try and mind-cope yourself into thinking it wasn't the biggest title to ever drop for the JRPG genre.
This dumbass forgot about General Leo and Vargas from FFVI. Nice try, newbie
>FF7
>New things
such as?
Sci-Fi aesthetics in FF
*laughs in Flying Fortress, Tower of Babel and Ronka*
Mirage Tower is the remains of a OE. The desert surrounding it is implied to have once been a city.
>Sci-Fi aesthetics in FF
Absolute moronic 7 dick sucker
go frick yourself
>Muh numbers
Thanks for confirming you're a brainless shit eating normalhomosexual
>numbers run reality
>numbers are dumb
huh?
>Incoherent moronic babbling because ff7 still didn't brought sci fi to FF
Seethe
>rides FF7 dick all day long
>point out favorite is 5
>y-you're d-dickriding 7
Cope, 7 is the best "final fantasy" because it literally is that. The best.
There's a reason for it, no amount of crying will change it.
>continues to ride dick
>continues to cope
>continues to cuck
>continues to cry that his favorite isn't the best
Literally is
is what? the best? yes we've established this.
>1
>2
>5
>XI
>8
>9
>6
>7
Make up your mind moron.
>i can't read
typical of Ganker
Or since honestly.
7 absolutely falls apart after midgar coz they ran out of money and had to patch together the rest of the game from leftover assets and crap prototypes they had laying around.
6 remains consistently good until the end.
since yeah, shame.
>7 absolutely falls apart after midgar
Midgar is the dullest part of the game, it gets a lot better after that, you mindless moron.
yeah it starts after Midgar in a way
IX
9 is dogshit and anyone that thinks it's a good game, let alone a great game, let alone the best final fantasy game is out of their fricking mind.
Nobody cares about your shit taste moron LOL
Based, I care about your opinion
Legitimate tastelet, 9 is so bad there's little to no reason to like that crap
IX is good you just have to be more patient zoom zoom
That was Square Soft, SE will never make a good FF.
Dragon Quest XI is way better than any FF in the last decade too, it's not Enix dragging them down it's 100% on Square.
I know DQ is managed Armor Project mostly but how much is Squeenix still two separate companies? It's been ages since the merger
I like VI a lot. But I like V more. And then there is Bravely Default.
>Bravely Default.
going into Bravely Default completely blind was one of the best jrpg mindfricks Ive ever had. Good times
I love this meme but VI has nothing going for it outside of the sprite work and music, both of which get mogged by its sister title Chrono Trigger. The cast is lame, half of them are filler, and the story falls apart the minute Kefka blows the world up.
chrono cross is ever better than chrono trigger
true. I've been playing it for the last months and it is awesome.
why do people love this game so much? cuz its kinda dark/tragic?
nostalgia
VIgays are just older versions of VIIgays
VII is objectively great tho and still holds up
...
>has no refutation so simply tries to imply something with ellipses
you are both as bad as each other
i don't like either games
It's true, I replayed 7 like 2 years ago and it honestly does hold up
I replayed 8 last year and it doesn't hold up nearly as well
VI is good but massively overrated
75% nostalgia
This is a man who knows how to start a flamewar and has been doing so since geocities pages were all the rage.
I like it for its atmosphere, but
>the combat system that is based mostly on spamming character abilities (or spells, in case of spellcaster builds) is kind of boring, last time Inhad to avoid Sabin because I just can’t be arsed to input and watch the same Blitz animations every turn
>there are too many characters in the party, and some get kind of forgotten due to that
>the last half of the game could have used a bit more plot than just ”gather party, kill Kefka”
dragon warrior VII
And best music of all FFs, by far.
8, 10 and 11 were better but yeah 6 was the best of the 2D ones
Tactics was better.
Tactics > VI > IX
is the psn network version for PS3 good to play?
Tactics is one of the few FF games which is equally bad as 6. Both games have some of the worst gameplay in their genres.
t. Filtered by Archers
you gotta be less obvious
>I died in the Dorter back alleys like a b***h homie
lmao
this, plus Tacticsissies will never get their remaster while the SE devs already said they want to make 6
Tactics will get the pixel treatment next
never finished a final fantasy game, they're really long
6 sucked ass, the Esper system is convoluted and boring in execution and trying it again as GFs in 8 didn't do it any favors
The less I say about Kefka the less likely I am to go on an unhinged rant
Lack of a clear protagonist is a pointless story endeavor that they shouldn't have tried, it ends up not being able to make up its mind whether Terra or Celes is the MC, and every single crossover game defaults to Terra anyways
Terra is the MC for the first world
Celes is the MC for the world of ruin.
But since most of WoR is just going around and recruiting your allies and then going to the final dungeon, there's not much 'story' for Celes to be the MC for.
There is no main character; it is an ensemble cast
You are too conditioned by rigid structures that as soon as the structure is even slightly changed, you fall apart mentally
I suspect you really struggle with jazz music
No main character makes for an unfocused and weak narrative, even FF6 knows this with how fast it drops subplots to go back to Celes and Terra
for me, it's Celes
More like sexles
yes
more like SEXMORE
The sprite rules and I hate when they use the worse one based off the art. Same with all the characters, really.
Honestly, Locke almost feels like the co-protagonist for WoB. IIRC, the only times he's not forced into the party are Zozo and the Esper Cave.
Generals in the Imperial Army look like THAT??!!
used goods
that's the best part
10/10 thread
>for me, it's Celes
>t.
>Celes is literally more of a FEMC than Terra
>Is also Locke's love interest
>They put Locke in Dissidia but not Celes
Those gays at square enix deserve to be butchered.
Terra is more of the mc during WoB, Celes during WoR
Terra / Tina is never the FeMC.
She's the living embodiment of the plot mcguffin, which makes her the leading object.
Anon, the whole game is Terra learning to understand what exactly she is and where she falls on the human/esper thing.
The final scene of the game is terra wanting to be human enough that she survives the death of magic.
don't bother, these people ignore terra being the character for FF6 in crossover games
Who actually uses the term macguffin and what does it even mean? Sounds like some homosexual would say.
everyone over 25 knows what a MacGuffin is zoom zoom
I’m in my 30s. Sounds like a term fanfic schizos use
found the mutt
okay pajeet
This, and I don’t understand why it’s even a conversation. Celes is gone a lot of the time. Even when Terra isn’t in the party for Zozo, she is still central to the everything going on.
But really I just remember when people would just admit is no central protagonist.
The world needs more women in skimpy leotards large capes and pauldrons.
Seriously, even with the ridiculously fantasy world isekai oversaturation, you can count the bawds who actually wear a costume like celes with one finger...
And yes, i said finger.
Anything done by the name of Square ENIX is and forever will be trash.
>Anything done by the Square part of the SquareEnix is and forever will be trash.
ftfy
>better than anything squeenix has put out since
Fix'd
gameplay systems are pretty bad in this but brave new world mod fixes them and makes it a god game imo
how does it fix it?
It really doesn't. Brave New World adds in a gimmick to where every enemy has a near-party-wipe counter attack to certain moves. Like you try stealing from one of the regular field enemies right after Narsche with Locke because why wouldn't you want to try out different moves and just wipes your whole party. Pretty much all enemies are like this. Use suplex against a new enemy? Might just do a counter and destroy your whole party. It turns the combat into tedious trial and error. It also turns a lot of the relics into very generic stat sticks (I think there's even a relic call "stat stick"). But what it does do right is that it changes up how espers increase your stats letting you use exp how you want instead of just having the right esper equipped on level up.
Also Brave New World localizes the dialogue to have a lot of childish swearing and it even has a whole fanficion re-write for Celes' character because the romhackers probably really like Celes.
It's fun for a hard type playthrough once if you have played through FFVI a dozen times already, I guess. There's some Japanese romhack that was translated recently that is supposed to be far superior, but I haven't gotten around to it.
I played BNW first and regret it. Game became more tedious than fun
seems like it was made exclusively for turbo autists
/vr/ kept telling me to play with it so yea, it is
It was made by actual bronies. The password for the unlock file is/was cupcakes and the readme proceeds to tell you its a mlp reference. I shit you not. So yes, made for autists by autists.
was lorerunner involved in the development?
I have no idea. Just played the romhack and read the unlocked readme after beating it. Wouldn’t have even known cupcakes was an mlp reference if they didn’t tell me in the unlocked readme.
Another thing that BNW does, that I personally like, is that it restricts espers from being used on certain characters, so you can't just turn everyone into a quad casting ultima machine. The revamps to character special abilities is also a must-have. Now the game incentivizes you to actually use special character abilities like gau's rage, or Sabin's blitzes, or Cyan's bushido. Gau in particular really got a rework by cutting his rages down to 50 or something instead of the almost 300 that he had prior.
>Gau in BNW
>Rework
Dude he's complete ass now , almost all of his useful rages got removed for no fricking reason and now he only has 64 rages , 60% of which are world of balance enemies that have non existent damage output
>or Sabin's blitzes, or Cyan's bushido.
Bum rush is awesome and just as powerful as any magic spell, and you get it early and more easily/ealier than the espers/weapon that teach you Ultima. Bushido isn't that bad if you queue it up after other characters start attacking, pretty much giving you 4x hit wtihout genji gloves. If you're going to b***h about a skill being useless, then choose maybe Runic since it also absobs your own magic.
the best part about Runic is they remembered it in Jack's Game and made it good as frick
> it even has a whole fanficion re-write for Celes' character because the romhackers probably really like Celes.
Anon...don't make me post "that" moment , the shit that Brave New World has done to celes character when you're escaping the floating content is a fricking travesty and the cringiest shit to ever grace Final fantasy 6 romhacking.
nta but i'm curious now, post it
I like how they end up shipping Celes with General Leo, too, giving her a whole scene at his grave even though if anything Terra was the one who liked him.
I wish I had the screencap posted, but I'll give you the cliffnotes version.
>Narappa at the end of the continent casts ultima
>kills everyone but Celes
>"wtf how are you still alive"
>"I'm a creation born from the deaths and souls of espers. I'm a demon and a monster and I don't deserve to live"
>uses Leo's shock ability
Yeah it's this , but there was more , someone posted the gif here and seeing it in motion it was the most tryhardy edgy shit ever
It's a tryhard and edgy take for sure. But even canonically Celes really does resent what she is.
To the point that she sees being jailed after her attempts at desertion, as penance for her existence.
Seems like they removed this in the newer versions
fricking what? thats 10 year old fanfiction-tier writing.
fricking hell.
https://files.catbox.moe/mqcq9b.png
also found this alongside it, good fricking god
https://files.catbox.moe/ka6nyd.jpg
is one of the games of all time
Yes, it sure is a game. I think.
>those links
It's even worse than I remembered.
I'll bite, what did they do? I honesty try to keep away from turbo autist romhacks that instakill you if you breath on it wrong like a pitbull with a toddler.
>There's some Japanese romhack that was translated recently that is supposed to be far superior, but I haven't gotten around to it.
ffvi t-edition, its quite nice.
Black person, post it, i will never play that shit.
Unironically filtered. BNW only punishes A spammers in random encounters. Also,
>It also turns a lot of the relics into very generic stat sticks
??? did you even play the game. Are you actually claiming BNW relics are more generic than vanilla ones
If any game badly needs an HD-2D remake, its FFVI.
If they haven't done it yet, it's probably because they're thinking of a full remake
Nobody talks anymore how terraria stole ff7 sprites just adding a singular nose pixel. But now as Red sold out to the current agenda, I feel like people should be reminded.
nobody gives a shit about terraria
>the central romance is between a sad thief chasing after myths to bring back his own happiness and an abused, suicidal victim of experiments
No other FF did this
Not even 16 with "two abused slaves slowly fixing each other".
They souls remake the first one but make our longer than 15 hours
can't tell if ESL phoneposter or drunk
>Fromtroony
Is this a bot post or just plain moronic? ESL was trying to say they should remake FF1 but make it longer than 15 hours.
I liked its simplicity
>last decade
That aint hard when square makes like 1 horrible FF every 5-6 years since the merger unless it's an asset flip game like ff13/ff14.
SE hasn't put out many good games since it became a thing
*two decades
company has been irrelevant since vagrant story. not one product meaningful to gaming industry in that time
why would you ever play a modified version of an original game as your first exposure to it
unless its a case like VTMB where the game is broken in a lot of ways and *needs* it because the studio didn't get paid to patch the game..
I mean to be fair theres like 10-20 games as good or better than FFVI in general.
V is better
*blocks your path*
what?? I dont get it
It's a better game, what was hard to understand?
Are the pixel remasters a good way to play FF3 - 6?
For 6, no. The best way to play 6 is the SNES version with the 2019 retranslation patch.
Tell me about the FFVI translation lore. Was it that fricked?
It's a typical SNES-era translation rife with mistranslations due to misunderstood context and censorship combined with Woolsey's penchant for needless rewrites. The translation was fixed up in later releases except the GBA port censored it in a different way and the Pixel Remaster censored it again.
Yes. Even 1-6. SNES version have horrible translations. Be aware that they slightly changed some Empire depictions in 6 from GBA onward so they don't salute like nazis
>FF6
I tried to get into this game three times but I got bored and quit. I really did try to like it, but the pacing was hampered by character back stories. I was hoping it would ease up, but it was just relentless that I stopped caring. A shame because the visuals and music are amazing.
Who's this supposed to be. Looks like Tifa with socks
My imported copy of the pixel remaster finally came in because SE is full of morons who can't produce enough domestic copies.
I'm starting with IV, and then playing VI.
not FF but for me, it's Riesz.
Sex with Terra(Esper form)
Not even close, FF6 is one of the worst games in the franchise, the gameplay is truly abysmal, the story is disposable, and without the immersive visuals of subsequent games it really has nothing to recommend about it whatsoever. It's time to stop letting your opinions be formed by internet communities, engage your brain, and see things for what they truly are.
75th post best post
This but unironically
I couldn't even finish IX or X and still thought they were less of a waste of time than VI
FF6 is a glitchy piece of shit, what are you on about?
unless you’re talking about the PS1 port idk wtf you’re “on” about britbong
>Stats and moves just not working (evade and blind come to mind)
>Useless party members (Gau is complete garbage unless you grind him up and use only specific rages. Only 2-3 out of the 256 rages are useful
>Speaking of, most abilities are downright useless and become forgotten before you even hit the late game (you are a codfish if you think anyone ever unironically used Bushido or Sabin's Blitzes after Magicite becomes available) Speaking of...
>Magicite is broken and makes everyone into clones into each other since you can just shove Quadcast Ultima onto anyone
>There is a noticeable lack of difficulty at every point in the game, due in part to bosses having broken AI half the time, and the tons of glitches and bugs don't help
is broken and makes everyone into clones into each other since you can just shove Quadcast Ultima onto anyone
I mean this is kind of a problem with V, VII and VIII as well. You just find the busted combos and put them on everyone. It's just more noticeable in VI because doing so overrides their unique abilities
It's made worse in FF6 because this is ontop of every other problem. FFVI had the courtesy of being the last final fantasy for the SNES, so you'd think they would have things down to a science. FFVII and VIII at least have the excuse of being pioneers for sony's new console, so slipups and problems are to be expected.
nta but it's known that in the original release, a programming error rendered the Evade stat entirely useless, along with any status effects or equipment associated with it such as Blind and Prayer Beads
>Last decade
Last decade doesn't cover XIII, dude.
Your brain is fricking leaking if you think FF6 is a better game than FF13. There is more enjoyment to be found in a single battle in 13 than there is in the entirety of 6. To claim otherwise, either your mind must literally be entirely governed by slavish adherence to the ancient consensuses of moronic 12 year old GameFAQs forum posters, or you just haven't played the games in question.
everyone loves FF 6 and always names it on "Greatest Games" lists
nobody gives a shit about 13 at all and the only time it's ever mentioned is by contrarians on Ganker
lmao
lol
reality hurts
So yes, your mind really is entirely governed by slavish adherence to the ancient consensuses of moronic 12 year old GameFAQs forum posters. thanks for demonstrating the level of stupidity necessary to worship a piece of shit like FF6.
lol not reading that post but I'll bet you're upset
true
make it two decades
VI > V > VIII > VII > IX >>> all
We are getting a remake eventually.
I hope not
needs more chibi celes
It wasn't even better than RS3, let alone RS2 or any of the following games
is RS3 translated yet?
The game has been localized since years already
All of the RS games are translated and on most systems and Steam. Just to note, RS1's PS2 remake is the one that is currently used for it's current version, 2&3 are outright pixel remasters.
Seeing Shadow's dreams without knowing anything about them and not expecting them was really kino.
>my homie Edgar is really terrible in this game
>I still use him
where'd you get the key for theatrhythm?
? The NSP?
I'll spoonfeed you because the game is fun as frick
nsw2u
NSPs are always clean but don't go to the site without ublock Origin and the usual shit
wish they remake it. It would suck but more people would learn about it
I love FF6
wow actually good fan art for VI is rare
>this is supposed to be scary
They failed hard.
>an otherworld being capable of destroying nations with a thought
i think i'd understand why they'd be scared
>although.......
I beat FF6 for the first time this year. Celes best. I enjoyed Setzer's Master Scroll + Fixed Dice.
XIV blows it out of the water once you reach Shadowbringers.
>MMOgay
>it gets good after 300 hours!
If only the same could be said for you
>I swear it gets good after the worst FF game of all time gets released, they remake the game entirely, then after another 500 hours of larping with trannies and homosexuals
>once you reach Shadowbringers
But that's way after best part of the game
VI > XIII > the rest
For me it's VI > IV = VII > V > VIII > III > II > I > IX
I know it's baby's first for a generation but I really didn't like IX when it released and haven't touched it since.
Sorry but no retro RPG can be good.
The games have limited combat due to being an old game, small tiny text boxes, horrible kid-friendly translations, nothing but palette swaps, etc etc
This is the one genre that is better with time by default, every old RPG is trash.
>games have to be mature for mature gamers like myself
>hhehhee boobies... hehehe frick!
No, they just have to be good.
I miss this little homie like you wouldn't believe
Octopath 2 has monstergirls
I heard Octopath 2 is really good, I want to try it.
FF6 is my favorite game, I resprited the portrait art not too long ago.