Black library

What do you consider to be the best additions black library and it’s authors have contributed to the lore of 40k/30k in the last couple of years, and what do you consider to be the worst.

  1. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Dan Abnett tends to write god-tier stuff that really does deep dives into the contents setting and background. CS Goto tends to write weird non-cannon stuff that somehow manages to have a dorky/cheesy feel whilst also being oddly greasy and sleazy.

    Also, every female character in a goto novel will spend the entire story being tortured before dying. Every single one.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck off dan Abnett has ruined so much lore it’s insane yet he’s not targeted like the likes of ADB. All the bad things in Horus heresy are from him, the changes, rewrites, it’s Abnett

      Ooooooo but dude he wrote Eisenhorn!!!! Gaunts ghooosts

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        HH is shit anyway so I don't care. Abnett wrote the best 40k fluff and nobody else has come close.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          Abnetts rewrites have harmed all of 40k he’s also a literal marvelfag

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            Abnett has only improved 40k. You can't name a single thing he's done to harm 40k.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              nta but perpetuals, the matt damon ripoff who maybe shot mlk specifically but the entire concept is fucked and lame

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                NTA, but they'll probably say perpetuals, true names, and enuncia.

                Perpetuals are 30k not 40k, true names aren't an abnett invention, and Enuncia is cool

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                My friend, don't act like 30k is a different setting.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                I started this conversation saying HH is shit and that I don't care about it. It's a different setting.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                Ok.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                Unless all the perpetuals die in 30k, they're still in 40k. Guess what abnett is going to do.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous
              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                🙁

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              NTA, but they'll probably say perpetuals, true names, and enuncia.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              >You can't name a single thing he's done to harm 40k.
              Ravenor as professor X ripoff.
              A child making a
              >bad chair day
              pun for reals.
              jfc the ravenor series was bad except for the pariah.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              When he Marvel'd the end of the second book of the Bequin trilogy, spoiling a decade-long wait for more good shit.
              Most of Ravenor is bad also.

              Enuncia is good though.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              Perpetuals and pic related

              Fuck off dan Abnett has ruined so much lore it’s insane yet he’s not targeted like the likes of ADB. All the bad things in Horus heresy are from him, the changes, rewrites, it’s Abnett

              Ooooooo but dude he wrote Eisenhorn!!!! Gaunts ghooosts

              >dan Abnett has ruined so much lore it’s insane yet he’s not targeted like the likes of ADB
              It's because Abnett has also wrote some of 40k's best stuff like Eisenhorn and Gaunt's Ghost. So he's viewed as more of a mixed bag than a negative element.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                What’s this with Matt Damon assasinating mlk in 40k?

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                I think it was in Legion, so 30k if you think its that distinct, where a perpetual has a flashback to shooting mlk, I think to emphasis how much of an assassin he is? It wasn't one of the better anachronistic references. fwiw some of them are flat out retarded like the model of the soviet space ship in Bequin.
                Still on the fence about the soup base infantry.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                What’s this with Matt Damon assasinating mlk in 40k?

                In Unremembered Empire, Damon recalls killing "The Good Man in Memphis" on orders of The Cabal after they recruited him from Iwo Jima.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                What could an galaxy wide cabal of aliens have against a single person?

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                The Cabal thinks humanity is a threat to the galaxy because of its close connection to the warp and chaos. So they try to hamstring or destroy it.
                They also tried to get Damon to kill Vulkan so they may just be the Space KKK.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                I still don't see how killing MLK furthers that goal in the grand scheme of things.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                The Cabal studied crime statistics

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                Black people are so powerful that they would have risen to dominate the galaxy if Whitey and the Cabal hadn't teamed up to keep them down. Seriously, that's the implication. That this is established in the novel where Vulkan is betrayed and assassinated is not exactly subtle, is it?

                Chris Wraight and Josh Reynolds are (or were for Reynolds) the two writers at BL who can actually produce entire novels (and even series) that are good quality, and have actual literary qualities like character arcs, theming, and metanarratives- AND also don't abuse the lore and setting. Other BL writers can write compelling individual scenes and establish interesting ideas for characters, with varying levels of consistency (ADB and Guy Hayley come to mind), but they ultimately aren't novelists. Their best books just happen to have enough cool scenes to distract from all the meaningless filler. One of the biggest issues with BL is that every writer less Reynolds and Wraight abuses foreshadowing like a redheaded stepson. It's fucking tiresome after a while.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, and ADB with fucking flashbacks. Echoes was 40% flashbacks ffs

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                Fehevari is my favorite writer right now. Man leans into the horror-vibe of 40k hard and it works wonders.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >unremembered empire
                Of course I forget that one.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                This post was made not long after Unremembered Empire

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Does Goto even write for BL anymore?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, you've been in a coma. Goto has been gone for years and Abnett has been shit for longer.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        I think its someone who got their info from 1dGanker

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      HAHAHA

  2. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >in the last couple of years
    The Fabius Bile stuff and the Inquisitor Covenant stuff was okay. Nothing great but that's not really what I'm reading franchise fiction for. Haven't gotten around to the warhammer horror short story collection but it seems at least a bit different.
    There's an odd short in inferno or whatever that is a good time like the one about the blood axes teaming up with an imperial guard army to fight nids.
    I hear good things about the Evil Suns book, haven't gotten to it. I mostly read BL when I'm hung over.

  3. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Abnett can write good characters but let's not pretend Abnettverse was ever close to 40k, even back in the day he wrote everyone and their mum flying anti-grav speeders like it was Star Wars and he's only gotten worse since the HH started, especially since GW incorporated primarchs into 40k and the implied canonicity of the BL drivel with it. Naming the guardsman was a sin.

  4. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    I've just started Dead Men Walking (Necrons Vs DKK).
    I'm still in the set-up chapters in the opening stages.
    There have been more than one reference that I can only conclude is an author forgetting to CTRL+F his placeholders - like references to "fuel-burning engines" that should surely be a more interesting noun than fuel.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Dead men walking is great.
      Story is an absolute gut punch in every regard and really drives home the hopeless suffering you would expect from a oldcron vs Krieg Deathkorps conflict. Everything human comes to an end there.

  5. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Infinite and the Divine and The Twice Dead King are legitimately good science fiction. Not good for 40k, but good for the genre- they actually raise some interesting characters and are accessible enough to go in with no knowledge of the setting.

  6. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    john grammaticus dies

  7. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Abnett writes 30+ books/short stories/novellas about the fucking Sabbat Crusade
    >I sleep
    >The Horus Heresy has over 40 books
    >THEY RUINED IT

  8. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    I unironically liked Chosen of Khorne.

    Mainly because it gave some clarity to Kharn's mad-lad ways and how the nails create a dream like state in t he mind whilst the body is going full berserker.

  9. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    I did not care for Eisenhorn.

  10. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    none

  11. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    the Cain books and non-perpetual wank Abnett shit are like the only stuff I really like.
    any author with painfully obvious daddy issues like ADB is automatically disqualified

  12. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I’ve been keeping a list of my favorite books from 40K as I’ve read through Black Library. I really enjoy Andy Clark’s novels. Shroud of Night was an absolute banger. Storm of Iron is a GOAT novel. Dawn of Fire is actually a sleeper hit series IMO. Gate of Bones has some incredible combat scenes and Mordians. I’m going to try to find the first novel in the Vaults of Terra series or pick up Soul Drinkers Omnibus 1 next.

    1. DoF: Gate of Bones
    2. Storm of Iron
    3. Shroud of Night
    4. Volpone Glory
    5. DoF: Throne of Light
    6. DoF: Avenging Son
    7. DoF: Wolftime
    8. Indomitus

  13. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Is the dark coil stuff worth reading?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, in that it’s pretty good. No, because it probably will never get a meaningful conclusion.

  14. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Reading twice dead king currently and it's really good.
    Was going to start reading about necrons with infinite and divine but the shipping was delayed

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I ordered two Sentinels with Archaeon's Made to Order and now I'm afraid they're gonna send me the new Sentinels. GW might just be running behind atm

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