>bro you just gotta play 200 hours and it will get good

>bro you just gotta play 200 hours and it will get good

  1. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    shit game, shit community

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      seethe more wowchud

  2. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Have you taken care of the 1000 quests before the 'end-game' anon? Now you can play with humans, well if you want to.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      i'm not even very interessted in the MMO in itself, i just wanted to know if the story etc was really so great and fucking no, it's a fetch quests simulator, litteraly all quests are like that
      >hey moron go kill these sings for me please
      >Kill 5 mobs (with off course absolutly no difficulty, i can alt+tab during the fight and just wait until the end)
      >Hey thank you moron you effectivly killed these mobs!

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >play mmo
        >complains about fetch quest
        ?????

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          You can make questing fun if you design an actual world that you interact with other people as well and it isnt just a terrain that you use to travel with your mount from point A to point B but devs are just too much of a gays and XIV will never be not ultra casual

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Hey bro Mortal Online II is right there and you can play with all 5 people who own it.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >criticism xiv
              >gets shit on
              Everytime with the cultist

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I'M A CRITIC says every BR and shitposter

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >MY GAME IS PERFECT PERFEEEECT SHUT UUUUUP

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, they're aids

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        The story is great, not the quest style

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I literally don't remember a single kill x of mob quest since the literal first half hour of the game.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          It's not like these complainers actual play the game.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          It's not like these complainers actual play the game.

          Why the fuck are your lying? Whether you're a FF14 fan or not, it is literally factually true that there are "kill X of this mob" quests all throughout the MSQ from start to finish, even in Endwalker. There's no point denying this. It's not a big deal, it is what it is, you kill them fast then move on with your life, but why lie and pretend they don't exist? I just clicked a random EW quest for instance
          https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Strange_Bedfellows

          >Survey the designated locations and deal with any enemies that appear. 0/4

          And this is far from the only one.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Your example isn't even an example of what you're talking about.

            >go hunt 4 boars

            vs
            >survey these areas, and you might get jumped, or might not

            Unless you mean: do # number of tasks.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Are you really telling me you are psychologically weak enough to not consider "Go kill 4 boars" and "go to these 4 places where boars will show up" the same thing? I mean, I guess if FF14 fans are fooled by slight phrasing then that explains why they like the main quest so much.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                They're similar, but just different enough to make a difference. The latter has times where no enemies appear, and instead you get some flavor with "You sense no boars, but find tracks and blood leading to the glade north of you."

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, they aren't the same, just similar.

                I'm going to be real with you chief, you are psychologically weak. Kill 4 boars and "kill 3 boars except there's a throwaway line where the 4th doesn't show up" is not meaningfully different. And often times in FF14 there are enemies at all spots regardless. Anyway, I clicked around randomly and got an EW quest which even your easily manipulated mind can't argue against.

                https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/When_All_Hope_Seems_Lost
                >Defeat the beasts at Purusa. 0/3

                Note, I'm not using this as a smoking gun against FF14, just pointing out it's absurd + dishonest to say there's no "Kill X" quests past ARR. By EW there's certainly more of a story focus and less gameplay, but kill X monster never goes away. (Also, to pre-empt more psychological weakness: It is the case that FF14 "kill X monster" quests never go above 5 in the MSQ, it's always 3-5. So I expect a response like: "Bro it's only 3 monsters." Yeah yeah, it's always 3-5 in the MSQ, never very much.)

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >mfw I realize the psychologically weak response will be "but it's integrated into the story so it doesn't count like boars"

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >get 0 responses to your retarded opinion
                >Try to give more attention to it 6 minutes later to give it more attention
                honestly pathetic

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody responding is a sign im right because they cant deny what I said is true.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >he's mad his argument got called out before it happened
                Cope and seethe.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Calling out a response doesn't debunk the response though. If someone asks you what 2+2 is then goes "Heh I bet this loser is gonna say 4" that doesn't make him wrong or weird for saying 4.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                welcome to Ganker, where attention seeking is king and the actual discussion is secondary

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                That's not a pointless fetch quest at that point. That's moving the plot forward by reclaiming an area.
                You wouldn't say killing 0/1 Hades is a fetch quest.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I think XIV accomplishes this is because a lot of the time the "Kill X" quest mobs dont actually spawn there. In WoW, when you kill wolves you go to the designated eternal wolf spawn. In XIV, you go to a location where wolves are reported. Then you get ambushed by said wolves and kill them. Then you never see wolves there again.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >You wouldn't say killing 0/1 Hades is a fetch quest.
                It is given the WoL's powerlevel at this point

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                WoL in XIV is way too powerful indeed

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                the most powerful being we've taken out without direct assistance from a god, an ancient being of unfathomable power, fantasy dark matter or other ridiculous sources of power is...Shinryu____

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Wow how surprising

                >mfw I realize the psychologically weak response will be "but it's integrated into the story so it doesn't count like boars"

                Yes, FF14 has integrated the kill X quests into the story. You will not find a kill X that isn't integrated into the story, for example
                > https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Verdict_and_Execution
                >Face down the lykaon and its fireballs. 0/3
                Yes, by this point killing the 3 Iykaons or whatever for Hermes is a plot thing. If you want to say, "All the Kill X mob quests past ARR are better integrated into the story," that's probably marginally true. However, denying the kill X mob quests exist at all because they have story relevance is absurd.

                Basically, yes, FF14 puts a coat of paint over the Kill X Mob quests. They integrate them into the story and do what

                I think XIV accomplishes this is because a lot of the time the "Kill X" quest mobs dont actually spawn there. In WoW, when you kill wolves you go to the designated eternal wolf spawn. In XIV, you go to a location where wolves are reported. Then you get ambushed by said wolves and kill them. Then you never see wolves there again.

                says for the ones less well-integrated. All of this is a smokescreen that makes it look more like meaningful gameplay, even when fundamentally it's still killing X mobs. I guess the original poster was just so completely fooled by these surface level tricks that he didn't realize the quests existed at all. Perhaps the key to enjoying FF14 main quest is to be unobservant and be like those people who think "Go to these 4 places and kill anything that shows up" is flavorful and good gameplay.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Ah so you're going for the "Im such an genius I am above these foolish, blind sheep masses in society." angle huh. Everyone who likes the MSQ in the largest MMO is simply being tricked, bamboozled and fooled. But your third eye sees what they cannot.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                everybody's a master of the genre, easily sees through such developer ploys, and otherwise types like a yugioh villain monologue in these threads when criticizing this game's approach to questing (that isn't fundamentally different from any MMO's questing all the way back to MUDs)

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Its almost as if Kill X quests actually do become a little more compelling when presented alongside a narrative, context and presentation.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly, I could never deny the effectiveness when we can see before us people flocking to pretend they don't exist and defend them.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Could it be more likely that you are wrong, rather than everyone else, Mr. Skinner?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                There's nothing to be wrong about. Kill X quests do exist. I think the arguments for like "go to 4 places and kill boars that show up" being meaningfully different from "go kill 4 boars" are very weak and blatantly shallow. Since my position is only "X exists', when X does exist, that's that. I did underestimate the sheer cope though.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                But you are incorrect in stating the difference isn't enough to be compelling. Either of us merely stating we are right doesn't actually make us right.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                To be clear, I do think integrating them into the plot makes them more compelling, for example the killing 3 of Herme's creations is obviously more compelling than 3 boars. No disagreement there. I wouldn't say all of FF14's Kill X quests are literally on the level of theadbare kill X boars with no context. However, they're still Kill X quests. I should note I specifically chose EW even though the original poster just said "past ARR"; if I were to go to HW or SB the examples would be much worse as you can imagine.

                Your first example is "Survey areas".
                You could (it doesn't happen, but could) survey and nothing happens.
                No combat.
                It doesn't state boars will spawn each time; could be one boar, later one garlean soldier, etc.
                These aren't major differences but they are still distinct enough.

                Think more than 1 layer deep, anon. Firstly, a lot of the time in these quests there's a battle at each spot. Secondly, usually it's the same enemy each time, it's very rare (I can't actually think of an example) for an unexpected enemy to spawn. Third, going to 4 random areas and spawning enemies is not more engaging or interesting then going to 1 random area and killing 4 things. It's the same thing framed in a slightly different way; if you shifted your mindset away from "defend it at all costs" then you would see in practice it's the same thing. Do X menial thing Y times in a row.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                If you step back enough layers, everything quest is: "Do this"
                The target isn't killing a set number of a beast in a certain area.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It's intuitive that, for example, a quest "Go explore these ancient ruins" would not be considered a "Kill 0/3 skeletons" quest even if in the process of exploring an ancient ruins you kill 3/3 skeletons. The problem arises when it mandates the menial task multiple times in a row, and explicitly makes it the focus. If FF14 were more like "Explore Labyrinthos" and less like "talk to NPC, kill 3 plot-relevant boars, talk to NPC, kill 3 plot-relevant boars" in an endless chain of enforced steps then it would feel less mundane and repetitive.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                i think my main problem with xiv quests is that they’re never challenging
                they were made to individually be short and easy unironically so nobody would get filtered from getting to the endgame, funny how people get “filtered” from it being boring now
                there’s a lot of difference between a kill quest where you go kill 3 super easy monsters that barely fight back and are all two yards away from each other, and a kill quest where you go kill ten monsters that can actually put up a fight in an area that you actually have to fight through some things to get to, and who can easily pull other monsters in by proximity if you aren’t careful with your pull and then shit on you
                these are fundamentally the same but most people would probably enjoy the second one more, unless their goal in playing the game is to just do as much “ content” as they can as quickly as they can
                a quest is more rewarding simply for requiring more thought and effort from the player

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Well....this is a thing for the entire game. Anything even close to someone with more than 40IQ is on savage/ultimate, anything else is retarded snooze fest that at this point it isnt even a videogame

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                that’s just square enix for you
                i had a blast doing the data organization fight on critical mode in kh2, but literally everything before that except for roxas and the CoM organization fights they add for final mix was complete dogshit that you could sleepwalk through
                and as always it begs the question, why not just make the entire game good?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                because no one thinks hard=good

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                something doesn’t need to be hard to be good, but if something is actually effortless then it isn’t good
                mashing x to whack a bunch of heartless that can barely fight back to death isn’t fun

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                There's a middle ground between that, the Venat fight in Elips was cool.
                Probably hard to implement stuff like that constantly with different jobs and the solo nature of the story despite being a MMO though.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Some of the solo trials are pretty good. The group content that got reworked into solo trials (like Westwind) in ARR are fun.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I wish they'd go back and ramp up every solo encounter. Or I dunno, make the not-fetch quests more action packed. Like instead of kill 3 wolves, you get swarmed by like 50 wolves but they all die in like 1 hit. Or you're searching through a storage for an item and a mimic attacks, and its actually somewhat strong.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                They could make NG+ mode actually worth it by adding harder difficulties to the solo trials.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Nightmare hot take: They should lock a glamour or mount behind doing each expansion in NG+.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You couldn't pay me to redo post-ARR.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I did the revamped Ultima Weapon and it was pretty cool, doesn't get shitstomped by outgearing it either. If they really intend to keep the game running forever they'll probably keep going back and touching up important fights until they stop doing expansions, I guess.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                imagine having Data Xion be your tutorial on the Destiny Islands in KH1

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                hey if it’s on critical mode the game can safely assume you’ve played it before and you know what you’re doing, so why not have a hard tutorial fight on the highest difficulty?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                you ARE a dissidia master aren't you?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Fighting in another body in EW was straight up kino though.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                In FFXIV of the “collect ten 50% droprate bandanas” and “kill 20 bugbears” quests are sidequests that nobody does. Also, expansion power creep and combat mechanic redesigns made open world content much easier, same as WoW

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                i haven’t played wow in a very long time, but i’m assuming it plays pretty similarly to xiv now

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Your first example is "Survey areas".
                You could (it doesn't happen, but could) survey and nothing happens.
                No combat.
                It doesn't state boars will spawn each time; could be one boar, later one garlean soldier, etc.
                These aren't major differences but they are still distinct enough.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                But games like WoW have the narrative and context. Its in the quest text provided by the NPC. But players in WoW choose to not read those, while XIV players read their quests because they're convinced every single chore is necessary or relevant to the overarching plot.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                "it's better when i don't read it"

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Are you trying to argue that the WoW implementation is better because it's so shitty that no one even tries to care about it?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                you can skip cutscenes in xiv so it’s not actually that different from how wow does it
                that said i do prefer text boxes to cutscenes because i can read a single long text box much faster than a cutscene with randos talking to each other and using emotes takes to play out

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >there's a skip button so it's totally the same
                Jesus you're a fucking retard

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                you’re right, it’s not quite the same
                in wow you can not bother reading the quest but you still actually do the quest itself
                in xiv you can not bother watching the cutscene, but watching the cutscene usually IS the quest, so you wind up not doing anything at all

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                A lot of times a cutscene is more valuable than a fetch quest. Yes, gameplay is important, but its not that important in the leveling process of an MMO.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                i disagree
                maybe a big impactful story cutscene where a bunch of stuff happens every now and then, particularly after accomplishing some difficult task so it feels like a reward, but for the most part i find even mediocre gameplay far preferable to most cutscenes, and the msq is like 80% cutscene so i get sick of it real quickly

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                WoW doesnt have a MSQ though. Its quest chains are often limited to each zone. The vast majority of WoW quests are one offs. Famer John wants you to kill wolves because wolves eat his sheep. In XIV, you're killing wolves because you're stranded in a tundra because your airship crashed, and you wont survive without those pelts to make it to your next destination.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Quest text isn't the best way to present your narrative and context. Like FFXIV isn't some special and amazing story just from the subject matter, but its presented to you in an entertaining and compelling way that you enjoy it.

                Like I don't care what Urianger could be talking about but hearing his voice actor try to convince me that its important and necessary works

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                90% of the “writing” in ffxiv could be removed without negatively impacting the overall story, in fact i think it would improved
                i think it would be better if story quests were much fewer and farther between, but more involved and actually well written, with more typically mmo leveling filling the gaps
                i unironically preferred hunting goretusk livers and zhevra hooves in old wow to watching tons of boring cutscenes with irrelevant character saying nothing important or interesting

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Just go play a korean mmo ffs

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It sounds like you're just not the target demographic then. And theres very few irrelevant one off characters in XIV. XIV had a habit of reusing characters from previous expansions. The guy you though you'd never see again after you brought him potion ingredients in an earlier expansion is now brought into conversation thee expansions later because you need a sleeping potion for the plot.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                the gather 10 bear asses quests exist. they're just not mandatory for exp

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >90% of the “writing” in ffxiv could be removed without negatively impacting the overall story, in fact i think it would improved
                Playing ffxi teach me ffxiv writting have a fuckton of text that can be removed in favor of a more concesive message.
                Damn ffxi storytelling is just top kino i dont think it can be topped

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                XI is long-winded too let's not pretend

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                xi had a smaller number of longer cutscenes that more was happening in, and you had to work to get those story cutscenes for the most part
                it’s not comparable to xiv

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The dialogue is much more concesive tho like much much more. You can really tell if you play both games currently.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                No one isn't saying they COULDN'T do better quest structure. But they use the generic ones.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                what is good quest structure

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Probably some of Runescape's.
                Wouldn't necessarily work in FF though, people would be annoyed by collecting shit to progress the story.
                BUT! There does exist one, in the Uldah area. "Great story never told" I think?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >one
                there's a good deal more than 1 of those
                greatest story never told was a good quest though, until the last step where it turns into mit-level of numbers retardation

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, they aren't the same, just similar.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                they're not the same no
                they even have 100s of those in the yellow quests literally no one does because no one gives 2 shits about bear ass quests
                items just dropping on kill and not just being a 10% drop or some shit from monsters is anothe thing

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >ffxiv you play from first dungeon wich is like 2 hours in
      >weew you are alone no play with people
      >ffxi retail you never play with anyone until 100 hours in
      >weew masterpiece kinooo. A true mmorpg

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      ffxiv is the least social mmo by a mile, and no, ERP and afking in Limsa is not being "social"

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Why, cause you say so?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Yes.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          love a girl with lips

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Gaia's lips are hideous. She looks like she had botched botox.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Gaia has dick sucking lips
            >she can't suck dick as Ryne has taken ownership of her
            I guess she can suck clit...

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              she's waiting until Mitron reincarnates

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >All that encouragement and love Thancred gave her
              >She goes gay for some bitch that initially hates her

              The man has no luck lemme tell you

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                His relationship with Ryne isn't a romantic one anyway.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Lost his magic
                >Lost his first daughter
                >Lost suave nature
                >Adopted kid turns gay

                Thancred had a hard life

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Having her go lesbo is the best option. Can't be cucked. Now he has a goth daughter in law. Whom he can fuck.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                At least he has Urianger?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                yea my friend, we shall always have eachother. now if thou wouldst be so kind as to join me for the fitting of mine next astrologian artifact. i just cannot decide betwixt silver threading, or brass

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Thancred would never. He wouldn't even fuck the normal Minfilia.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Of course. Thancred took care of Minfilia like a daughter cause he feels partly responsible for her dad's tampling by the Gobbue in 1.0

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                ummm anon?? Ryne is his daughter. He encouraged her to keep going and get herself a hot goth gf.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I like the idea of blowjobs, but the reality is the teeth always get in the way.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Cant have pleasure without some pain i guess...is not even that bad anyway

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              There are solutions. Many are euphoric.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Man, this shit was way weaker than I thought it'd be. Everyone always went on about how fucking hardcore it was but there wasn't really anything that crazy.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yea, I think their other works tend be rougher. But for a normie, it would seem 'hardcore'. Rape, scat, and all source of other shit.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous
        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          love a girl with lips

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >socializing doesnt count .

        good one anon

  3. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck off we're full. Can't fucking finish a Limsa quest because the instance is full gdmi

  4. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    shadowbringers is kind of good but it peaks early on.
    But yeah, you kind of have to stuffer through the base game and most of heavensward before it starts trying anything new.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      yeah but seriously who has +200 hours to waste in a boring game
      Fuck i understand now why i've seen some skip for the early story in their shop

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        You're right, better to just stay here and not play any video games at all

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          the MSQ isn't a video game it's a visual novel

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            And not even a good one.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        the issue with the skips is that you toss so much free xp out the window it's kind of a waste. Like you still need to have a character up to the required level the only difference is that you need to do it through the leveling roulette.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          So fren do you think i need to force myself a bit?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            The reason why people complain about ARR isn't because of the main story, it's the post main story quests.
            Those are mandatory, give no meaningful rewards until the very end(IE everything is powercrept super hard) and is even longer than the main story.
            Like they've had to patch out a good portion of the filler and it's still unbearably long.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Is post-ARR really that bad or is it just people having their eyes on HW and not caring about it?
              It's been years but while I remember myself being giddy to get to HW, the only thing so actively bad I remember it was the Titan questline.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It’s a bit of a slog with having to refight primals and takes a bit to get moving but when dudes in blue outfits start to show up it gets better

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Kind of both honestly.
                The only meaningful reason to finish post-ARR is for the free fantasia. But the cost to skip is basically the same price as one.
                There was a point where I just didn't care and was skipping every cutscene and dialogue because the quest-rewards are total dogshit on top of being tedious. Like if you require a level 50 job then at least give more than 5k xp.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It's a mess of different story lines since it's effectively setting up the next 2 expansions while juggling a bunch of other sub-plots. The ending is good but getting there is such an unfocused, tedious mess. To make matters worse you get fuck all exp from it meaning your not making much character progress either

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >skipping the best part of the game for autistic "endgame"
      MMObrain

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        if the msq is the best part of the game then the endgame must be the vidya equivalent of stapling your testicles to a plank of wood

  5. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    No, it's good right away actually. ARR being bad is a meme.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      what is good about it? all jobs feel incomplete, every single dungeon and primal fight is braindead easy and forgettable, the story isn't engaging until the last 5-6 quests (if that) and then it grinds to a halt as soon as you start post-ARR.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        people still get filtered by the first room of aurum vale and thats ARR

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Imagine if Coinkeeper still had non-telegraphed attacks

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Meant Coincounter

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            even when he did it people rarely wiped to him, people would get hit by glower but thats because its hitbox was weird vs its animation

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              I remember when Amdapor Keep 1st released people were wiping like crazy to Demon wall

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I remember that too. And steps of faith being nerfed like 4 fucking times over the years when I cleared it on release pre nerf.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >90% of the “writing” in ffxiv could be removed without negatively impacting the overall story,
            10% tops, most of these quests build up to the things that happen in cutscenes

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              meant for

              90% of the “writing” in ffxiv could be removed without negatively impacting the overall story, in fact i think it would improved
              i think it would be better if story quests were much fewer and farther between, but more involved and actually well written, with more typically mmo leveling filling the gaps
              i unironically preferred hunting goretusk livers and zhevra hooves in old wow to watching tons of boring cutscenes with irrelevant character saying nothing important or interesting

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Agreed, at best its 10%. There are some unnecessary shit quests in all expansions, but no way we can take out 90%.

  6. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, now stay out

  7. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I played this for 500 hours, I didn't pay attention to the story at all, and I never talked to a single person. Yet I still had fun fishing.

  8. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I've also seen that it's not even the worst part, after ARR there will be a string of litteraly 100 fetchquests

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      That's the trudge. I found ARR to be fine when I first ran it last year, although it has been trimmed down over the years, but the bridge between ARR and HW was painful until the very end once it all came together. Still loved it all, but I can see people burning out there.

  9. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    FF after 7 was never good

  10. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    except it never actually gets good and its just a readathon about random shit

  11. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    baby's first mmorpg?
    the grind is the content, you play non-stop for two months then you get to end game content and meet people to continue that monthly grind
    you pay for what you get

  12. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why did this game mindbreak so many people?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      People cry and piss at the thought of *gasp* READING

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Not just that, but I've noticed a lot of ESLs struggle with the English translation

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Well no shit Koji is obsessed with his thesaurus

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Not just that, but I've noticed a lot of ESLs struggle with the English translation

            I'm really happy Koji is filtering people with his writing.

  13. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Single player game lobby with multiplayer tacked on

  14. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Play for 1hour
    >Game gets good
    >Play for 200 hours
    >Game keeps getting better and better

  15. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The most boring 200 hours in any game you will ever play. Literally puts you to sleep

  16. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    No stay away from FFXIV, I don’t need more of you morons being shitty in dungeons not using their skills right.

  17. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's a shame they wasted the best FF story on an MMO and all the downsides that come with it.

  18. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I wish they would patch in more of the duty supports. Going in blind is fun.
    I don't want to look up guides for certain fights but I'm gonna feel like an asshole if I'm the only sprout and blatantly eating mechanics when other people are just trying to level up quickly and get out of there.

  19. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Guide us, O mighty Fury
    Guide us to victory!

  20. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    200 hours is a light estimate. More like 1700 hours

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      How slow do you read?

  21. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The story is what's good. The endgame and raids are fucking trash. It's just pattern memorization.
    WoW raids are a gorillion times better.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I kind of like Orbonne. It's Dun Scaith and TaPB that I can't stand because they end up taking 60-70 minutes.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah Orbonne and the other SB Alliance Raids are fun. But a lot of the normal raids and trials are just the same shit over and over again. It has more to do with pattern memorization than actually reacting to what is happening. Unless you start moving BEFORE the attack happens you're fucked at higher difficulties.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        They really just need to increase the rewards for the third alliance raids because they are always much longer than the first two. Maybe then people would stop removing all their gear before registering for the roulette.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Maybe then people would stop removing all their gear before registering for the roulette.
          Unironically thanks for this advice. I'll do that from now on.

  22. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Hmmm later today I will run Orbonne Monastery a minimum of 4 times.
    Yes.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >wait nearly 30 minutes in queue
      >Syrcus Tower
      >no first timer bonus so it's all ilvl cheesers and the people they've cucked out of any other actually fun raid
      FUCK these gays

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        iLvl cheese is fucking cancer

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          small japanese company, please understand we can't create a system that checks all your inventories for your total ilevel

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            What they need to do is change the syncing to work like Bozja, then it doesn't matter what gear you have on at queue time, you're being set to either min or max for the given dungeon and your equipped ilvl is irrelevant, it's set to where it needs to be at the dungeon you're being sent to
            Roulette fails to be a roulette if you can influence where the system sends you, this shit needs to change

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >>no first timer bonus so it's all ilvl cheesers and the people they've cucked out of any other actually fun raid
        the only fun ARs are mhach, scaith, lighthouse, tower, and aglaia

        >FFXIV difficulty is artificial since it's gatekeeped by skill

        old shitpost just ignore it

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >mentor roulette pops
        >alliance setup 3/6/15
        If it's nier shit I take the 30 minutes, wait and requeue and pray for an extreme because holy fuck I'm not doing that garbage 24man series and fuck anyone who queues for it.

  23. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >200
    More like 2-3
    It starts getting good the moment you complete the starting city quest

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >It starts getting good the moment you complete the starting city quest

      Mid-ARR is the worst part of the whole game. The Titan timewasting arc followed by Coerthas timewasting and crystal collection timewasting are such fucking garbage.

      It only picks up again when you finally fight Garuda and by then you're nearly at the end of the original game.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >It only picks up again when you finally fight Garuda and by then you're nearly at the end of the original game.
        And it only goes downhill from the Ultima Weapon until the Crystal Braves were formed.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Titan is kino, no idea why so many people get filtered by the banquet

  24. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    HIGHER OH HIGHER

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      E'ER OUR VOWS ENDURE
      AND REMAIN FOREVER STRONG
      STANDING TALL IN THE DARKNESS YOU CARRY ON

      ON WINGS OF HOPE YOU RISE ON UP THROUGH THE NIGHT
      HIGHER, O HIGHER

  25. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    ARR questing is bog standard MMO questing, but with an actual plot. I dont know why people get so upset over it. Maybe they expected it to have the quality they hear about when people discuss later expansions.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >ARR questing is bog standard MMO questing
      Except the part where you can do it with friends
      Pretty much the whole MMO part lmao

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Who the fuck does random leveling quests with friends these days? I can understand dungeons.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          people that want to have a fun adventure with their friends, and maybe even make some new ones

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          What do you mean? Its literally the point of an MMO.
          The most social part of the whole leveling experience is standing next to someone who is also in a cutscene

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I mean you can do that.

  26. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    if fun in a video game can be roughly quantified by the number of meaningful decisions you make compared to the amount of time played, the. final fantasy xiv is the least fun game ever made
    your approach to every fight is identical, you spam your rotation and sometimes step out of a slow aoe telegraph, boss mechanics are rarely more complex than that
    you follow a linear and extremely long and tedious main story quest that chiefly consists of walking to a guy and then watching a cutscene and occasionally face rolling some really easy fight, and your “reward” is a bunch of trite, dull light novel-tier writing
    you don’t even play with other people, you play around them at best, but the overwhelming majority of the game is solo, defeating the purpose of being an mmo
    even the endgame stuff that’s difficult isn’t difficult because you need to come up with some clever strategy or anything, you just need to follow the exact pattern you’re supposed to or you die to a mechanic, it’s literally rote memorization
    there is no planning, no strategy, no character building, almost every ability on every class is just “do damage”, and the handful segments that actually resemble playing a game, like eureka and bozja, are completely optional and the only thing you get for doing them is glams
    it is the actual worst AAA game i’ve ever played and i actually think less of anyone that likes it for liking it
    and yes, i’m mad, i got tricked into playing this fucking thing for 200+ hours because my friends with bad taste and internet weirdos kept insisting it was god’s gift to video games

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      TL DR

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >even the endgame stuff that’s difficult isn’t difficult because you need to come up with some clever strategy or anything, you just need to follow the exact pattern you’re supposed to or you die to a mechanic, it’s literally rote memorization
      Try coming up with the strats without watching a video or reading a guide. You telling me pic related isn't clever? Or what about the person who took this, thought "this could be improved" and came up with the dps uptime version?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >3 baited cleaves from tornados
        >2 tank busters
        >3 baited cleaves from boss to closest targets
        After 1 wipe anyone with a brain will see what you have to do and there is no downtime for anyone. If the tanks take cleave and buster with invuln, you don't even gain much over just doing it the "intended" way.
        Blind progging is fun, but let's not pretend like that particular mechanic is particularly difficult

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Armchair raiders are only second to armchair generals in being unintentionally hilarious.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >one wipe
          That's bull and you know it, anon. The most obvious strat is Elmo, coming up with Myta definitely took more than one wipe, even figuring out nados are proximity vs any other target type is more than one wipe, it's at least 3 for someone who is smart.

          And besides that, someone who complains about "rote memorization" is someone who probably doesn't understand the mechanics he's resolving and just does it, like regurgitating answers for exams.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            lol pro WoW raiding guilds tried XIV and literally solved savage and ultimates within a half-dozen pulls.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              lol pro WoW raiding guilds are 99th percentile players and neither you nor I should be comparing the average player of any mmo to them.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Not a concession retard-kun, the first anon I replied to is probably too dumb to even figure out P1S. Those are the people who I'm saying should not have an opinion. That's also why I picked a fairly easy one rather than some shit like Light Rampart.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but none of them are 99th on 14

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but we're losing sight of my original statement. I believe that pro WoW raiders could figure out strats and beat a 14 raid week 1, assuming they're not entirely new to the game. The first retarded anon I replied to complaining about
                >muh rote memorization
                probably has zero clears, that's a guy who has no right to say shit.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                That doesnt make WoW raiding better. WoW raids are designed to have gear checks while XIV doesnt. Many of them have been literally impossible the first week.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not talking about that at all, I have never played WoW in my life, thank God. I am only talking about how you absolutely can and do come up with clever strategies in the endgame XIV content.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                FFXIV is only "difficult" because the classes are needlessly complex and the raids are bloated with mechanics. WoW difficulty is more genuine since it's based on gear checks, while FFXIV difficulty is artificial since it's gatekeeped by skill.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >skill
                i’m not defending wow raiding, but xiv raiding is a joke

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Post clears

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >FFXIV difficulty is artificial since it's gatekeeped by skill

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >classes are needlessly complex
                Which ones?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You are genuinely mentally disabled if you have difficulty with jobs and raid mechanics. The hardest part of the game is avoiding fuckwits like you to do basic content with.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >FFXIV Classes
                >Complex
                Maybe in 2015 but god you are such a retarded stupid gay for saying this in current year.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >needlessly complex
                just because you press a lot of buttons doesn’t mean it’s complex, you’re pressing the same buttons in the same order every time
                you could replace 90% of job abilities with an auto-attack and it would be the amount of decision making

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Some mechanics are introduced while leveling, they are not going to beat experienced 14 raiders ever considering most of them boosted. Also take into account most of those guys rely on addons to tell them what to do, they're not used to having to look at the boss/arena for tells

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              I'm still waiting for a single WoW team to beat DSR

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Did echo quit midway? I remember them making it to dragons phase at least.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                They said they are coming back to prog it after doing the next Pandaemonium tier

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              IS that who World 1st WoW raid group Echo got BTFO'd by DSR and quit it?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah Max solved mechanics BEFORE he saw them, guy is cracked. He predicted SoS EX unique interaction with DPS LB not seen anywhere else in the game while clearing the normal mode, nobody can compare to WoW's 5th best team.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Easy to know what happens when you look everything up beforehand.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Still remember when he knew SoS couldn’t be hurt by LBs when that mechanic has never been any part of the game before and it was his first time doing the fight?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >These tornadoes remind me of TEA/pepsiman
            >Oh tankbusters tethers from earlier in the fight
            >Did you see that? The boss shoots cleaves too
            Pretty sure my static said stuff like that after first wipe. We did it the "intended" way with tanks ne/nw, ranged bait n, healers e/w tornadoes and melee/caster baiting cleaves to south. It really wasn't difficult

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >boss mechanics are rarely more complex than that
      Post logs of your hardest cleared content.
      >inb4 it's yet another free trial retard that hasn't even cleared ARR extremes

  27. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    same thread every day

  28. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >once considered the worst game of the series in 2011
    >now carries the entire company for a decade

    This is easily this generation's most based game, by fucking far and away. I can't even imagine the effort it took to turn that sinking ship around and make it float again.

  29. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    If you don't like Kingdom Hearts or shounen anime and winning through faith in each other / the power of friendship reaching across time and space, you will not enjoy FFXIV. It is intentionally designed to be digestible by absolutely anyone that makes up a casual playerbase.

  30. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, I was burning out in post ARR, but the Shiva theme transition revitalized my desire to play. It makes me smile to remember, I like when I get Shiva in roulettes. I kind of wish that song would get remastered, but the way it sounds kind of aged compared to the newer OST is charming. It's like listening to a band's very first album.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      STARING AT DEATH
      I TAKE A BREATH
      THERE'S NOTHING LEFT

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      There's a reimagining of the theme

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I know, E8 is my favorite raid theme in the whole game. But I would've quit in ARR if not for Shiva.

        This raid tier's music sucks ass btw. "Hic Svnt Leones" is a shitty song, idc what any anon says.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          for me its e11...

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I know, E8 is my favorite raid theme in the whole game. But I would've quit in ARR if not for Shiva.

            This raid tier's music sucks ass btw. "Hic Svnt Leones" is a shitty song, idc what any anon says.

            for me? it's e621

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              I am not looking forward to the female hrothgar reveal, dear god that is going to suck.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I'm only gonna have sex with this hrothgar anyway so
                https://twitter.com/i/status/1554031039852359681

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                yeah. all that dev time for like 100 people

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >even less new gear
                Furries ruin games

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Eden's verse had some good music, minus E7

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >best girl
      >dies in the same expansion she was developed in to fit the writer's fujo agenda

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        HW wasn't written by the fujo.
        Unless there's ANOTHER one.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          there has been no major protagonist death since HW

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Retard.

  31. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I liked levelling but after reaching max level there was a “this is all there is?” moment and I quit. The idea of FFXIV was more interesting than the reality

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      This game has more general things to do at max level than most MMOs. But if you're just into dungeons and raiding then WoW is the game to play.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      what does that even mean? the content is locked behind story progress. your level is meaningless

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        The story literally has level requirements and at max level the game is just more quests but no more level ups or character growth unless you like collecting womens clothing. Use your brain before replying next time

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          No one would have inferred that from your shitty post.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      But you have all this shit to do... what does hitting max level have to do with anything?

  32. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    it’s an mmo designed for people that don’t like or play mmos
    it’s just content, no substance to any of it

  33. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    there’s a new ffxi pserver coming out soon that’ll be CoP with a bunch of job balance tweaks
    getting on the ground floor of that and leveling with everyone else will probably be pretty fun

  34. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    what if i was having fun right away?

  35. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Ah, yes, nothing can compare to the exquisitely crafted WoW raiding experience...

    http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/60ec621335f4b-the-average-wow-raider-experience.php

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      underrated post

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >2022
      >Not using addons in XIV raiding
      lmao

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >addon tells you exactly where shit is
        >people still died

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe they're shitters who don't use addons. Probably would have cleared if they were better like the dude from the pov

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        god THIS SHIT IS SO FUCKING CRINGE
        WHY ARE YOU CHEATING LIKE THIS
        YOU KNOW YOURSELF YOU CHEATED
        HOW CAN YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT YOURSELF

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Which add-on is that?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I kneel wow-sama

  36. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    You don't. Don't play it, game sucks and you won't like it. Play something else. We are full.

  37. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why shouldn't I just use cactbot or things like it?

    Does anyone here use it and was there any downsides?

    I don't care about getting better anymore, so I'm wondering what negatives there are.

  38. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    there some guy on youtube doing these videos where he and his friend do every dungeon in wow without any external gear or leveling with just the two of them being a pair of casters
    they had to really get creative with how they dealt with a lot of the pulls, los-ing things, rooting things, managing their aggro, and all i could think was how you’d never be able to do anything like that in ffxiv

  39. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    THE SAME THREAD,
    AGAIN AND AGAIN

  40. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    A Realm Reborn felt like such a chore, hopefully Heavensward fixes what the last story couldn't.

  41. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Only retards start a book from the first page too
    just skip to the last chapter lmao

  42. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    best part is that it doesnt even get that good

  43. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >bro you just had to be there 10 years ago when it was good

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      It was good. Homogenization was in its infancy, but classes still had unique bullshit like Thunderstorm or whatever that let everyone feel good about it. Looking for Raid killed the game, and it's why my friends and I abandoned ship when 3.3.5 made it clear which direction the game was going.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        LFR implementation was fucking retarded, it didn't kill the game, laser point focus on raiding over anything and everything else did. LFR didn't need a separate difficulty, all that was needed is keep 10m alive and add matchmaking to normal, you don't fucking need 4 difficulties for raids.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >you don't fucking need 4 difficulties for raids.

          You underestimate how fucking bad people are in Raid Finder difficulty

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I played wow till first half of bfa, i know full well how dogshit people were, doesn't mean you need a lfr difficulty, or even hard. It should be normal and mythic, that's fucking it. What blizzard should have done is branch content for casuals and not push them into raiding, and they had everything to make it happen, moonfaire alone is such a wasted opportunity it hurts.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          This, LFR never had an impact on the raiding community, it's always retards who never raided who bitched about it. Mythic raiding is what fucked everything up, since instead of raiding with 9 of your buddies you had to raid with 9 of your buddies and whatever 10 assholes you could wrangle up consistently. I understand their reasoning since all super serious esports gays did 25 man because it was more leniant, but the change fucked up a ton of other non-"pro" guilds. I unironically liked Flex though since you could do meta mount achievements without having to waste your "real" lockout

  44. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    when people say that it gets good they’re talking about the story
    the gameplay never improves
    and the story isn’t even anything special either unless you’re easily impressed by the writing in stuff like marvel movies and kingdom hearts games

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Whenever I asked about FFXIV, fans always tell me about "tHe GrEaT sToRy" it's never about the game itself.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        because it's an mmo the game's going to be shit regardless
        if I wanted a good game I'd play a real game and not a skinner box, the only reason 14's playable is it made all the skinner box shit optional for the terminally retarded people who actually want it

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Whenever I asked about FFXIV, fans always tell me about "tHe GrEaT sToRy" it's never about the game itself.

      because it's an mmo the game's going to be shit regardless
      if I wanted a good game I'd play a real game and not a skinner box, the only reason 14's playable is it made all the skinner box shit optional for the terminally retarded people who actually want it

      It's a tab target mmo. Everyone knows what they play like and you either like them or you don't. Parroting the same shit a million other retards have said on Ganker isn't going to make anyone that isn't also a complete fucking retard have some kind revelation.

  45. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    SAMbros, am I the only one getting a bit tired of the job and all their retarded changes? Kaiten aside tsubame feels really poorly implemented

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Idgaf about kaiten but if they really want to remove button bloating theyre too stupid for stoping at only removing kaiten

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        They wanted to get rid of Kaiten because they became tired of designing SAM around it

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Removing third eye. Consolidating ikkishoten and Shohas.
        It just doesn't make sense how much they completely fuck up SAM's button management.

        They wanted to get rid of Kaiten because they became tired of designing SAM around it

        Then at least give something new or actually change the job.
        Now it feels both odd AND barebones.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          I guess YoshiP just wanted to get rid of it early and got surprised by the reaction

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I think the funny part is how insane the SAMplayers have gotten

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              SAM players have always had latent seethe inside of them
              They still think only fair world is one where they also top dps charts too

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              SAM players have always had latent seethe inside of them
              They still think only fair world is one where they also top dps charts too

              if you want to be top you know what to do
              samurai is always going to be second fiddle at best

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                How do i black mage?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You need to be autistic (this is not an option) and just make your leader make strats around you

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                BLM autism always surprised me, the strats revolving around them having to move as little as possible and server tick tracking

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                i don’t understand the question
                you just spam your rotation like every other job in the game
                i guess blm is marginally different than some other jobs because part of its rotation is responding to procs
                the buttons literally light up when you’re supposed to press them, it’s not complicated

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >the buttons literally light up when you’re supposed to press them, it’s not complicated
                i thought it was hilarious when this happened on other jobs
                i also think the concept of a 123 existing at all is beyond hilarity

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Playing BLM on casual level is easy af and fun. In the other hand if you wanna do good dps then....

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Sometimes its better to hold off on the procs. I only use lightning during ice and i use fire 3 procs to keep my little fire ball friends floating around me when the timer is about to run out.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Imagine being the top dog and getting cucked by DRG/NIN while BLM only gets better.
              Also losing the thing that made you dcrit at 100k

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Direct crit will not survive for long
                to be honest direct hits are a retarded mechanic

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                No, I will not forfeit my 125k Hyosho dcrits

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              SAM players are based because their spergout made the devs hold back on fucking up DRG for now.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >please wait for 6.2 for the SAM changes
                >no changes

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                S O O N
                Im also impressed that the devs are so retarded for not fixing SAM on 6.18

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Removing third eye
          If this happens ill actually kill Yoshi. Rpg elements are ao fucking non existant in this game that i wouldnt be suprised tho

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Removing kaiten did not make SAM feel barebones. Literally the only difference is you're pressing shinten instead of kaiten.

  46. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    FFXIV would be good if they just retooled it into a Guild Wars 1 clone
    >zones are already tiny and instanced
    >the world is empty anyways with trannies AFKing is Limsa
    >modern MMO issue of too many skills/spells that you spam every GCD, so changing skills so you can only take 8-10 max with longer cooldowns and more MP to use would be less spammy and more tactical

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yes we all want changes but thats 100% never happening. Want anything new and experimental? Not happening. Ever. Period.
      Yoshi plays safe everytime and wont try shit

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >modern MMO issue of too many skills/spells that you spam every GCD, so changing skills so you can only take 8-10 max with longer cooldowns and more MP to use would be less spammy and more tactical
      Reminder that giving skill choices just leads to everyone using the same shit anyway. There will always be a meta when given a limited number of skills that you pick and choose. Even then lowering the amount of skills is total brainlet shit and would be horrifically dull. Why do you think basically every job sucks to play before like level 80?

  47. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's been 9 month since the release of endwalker and wow trannies are still seething.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      TALES OF LOSS

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      has to be bait, ff14 is /the/ chud game

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        never seen any trannies in this game and I play since ARR.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          anyone that says they're a girl in an mmo is one

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        in terms of players yes, in terms of devs wow is the chud game
        but complaining about trannies in an mmo is kind of like complaining about black people in an inner city, mmos are THE chud genre

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >projecting
        Sad!

  48. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It gets good 20 minutes in if you start in Limsa, because thats when the best fucking character joins you.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      MY WIFE

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      a cat is fine

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Y'shtola is a miracle of the universe.

  49. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    You know what
    Im running puppets bunker
    For absolutely no reason but being an asshole

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I would take that shit over Syrcus Tower or Labyrinth of the Ancients any day

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      hey it's better than running ivalice

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Ivalice are the best raids I don't understand the hate.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          They're exactly as "ok" as every other AR but they have voice lines so people can pretend they're hecking epic.
          Math bot and mustadio are the only notable fights in the series, I have no idea why people pretend cid is a good fight when he's less intensive than most of alexander normal even when he was unnerfed.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >I have no idea why people pretend cid is a good fight
            I would say it's the voice lines combined with absolute retards wiping the raid with Duskblade and Shadowblade which lead to the perception that it's a grander fight than it is.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Same with Agrias. The fight itself is really dull but her VA absolutely nails the lines.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Fights 2, 7, 8, 9, and 12 in the ivalice series are pretty interesting mechanically. especially phase 2 of Ultima and her gauntlet mechanic

            Orbonne Monastery is by far the most cinematic and has excellent spectacle of all the alliance raids. Excepting Paradigm's Tower if you're a huge Yoko Taro fan maybe

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            The Cid fight is great because of its presentation, all fights in XIV are trivial once you learn the song and dance, there are no complicated mechanics unless you are mentally stunted.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        The NieR content is by far the worst content XIV has ever produced. It's unfathomably bad, ugly raid environments, shit-tier music, garbage gear that looks identical across all roles, and boring encounters. And at the end of the day Yoko Taro dick suckers lapped it up because "no bro you don't get it it's SUPPOSED to be bad man haha fuckin' Yoko Taro man right?" god I hate NieR

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >The NieR content is by far the worst content XIV has ever produced.
          *blocks your path*

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Separate leveling that forces you to search fates to do with other people
            >market allowed rewards for fates
            >the final raid has to be coordinated and requires preparation beforehand
            >>>>This is the worst content
            Maybe MMOs aren't your thing

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              no they aren't lmao, mmos are cancerous garbage and the only reason 14 is halfway decent is because they explicitly at all times go out of their way to not be an mmo
              get the fuck out of my final fantasy game

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              BA is ok but don't pretend the rest of eureka isn't the worst slog in the game

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >shit-tier music
          Are you deaf??

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >shit tier music
          Damn bro, you didn't like the Weight of the World mix at least?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Hated it, felt like it was spitting in the face of Final Fantasy fans by attaching an important piece of fight to an absurd meme boss in a shitty raid. The Torn From the Heavens remix was even worse since that's such an important theme to XIV in general. Fuck NieR and fuck Yoko Taro.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Blew their load early on that one
            Some of the boss fights were cool but I wish we had gotten something original on the first, like a big treasure hunt through some ruined civilization's ruins or some shit. Most of the good stuff we got out of the Nier crossover could've been done in a typical event, the music and outfits.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          the 3rd raid had great encounters though it is disappointing they hardly used any of the good music from the franchise
          like you're already using all of the nier/dod stuff put in black song/white scales or something
          you only have a mediocre version of weight of the world as a ""good"" piece

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I loved the 3rd part necause the mechanics were pretty interesting and fun to do. Since in raids we had the same mechanics for a while just played slightly different
            >broooo remember limit cut?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            The fact that they didn't use blu-bird in the Hansel and Gretel fight is unforgiveable.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Cant agree more with you.
          Nier raid are pure garbage and when I'm in one I instant leave dont care about 30min penalty

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >shit-tier music
          The music was the only good thing of those raids

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Just imagine an alternate reality where
          >Nier became the crossover event where players just got the 2B and 9S outfit, and 3-4 orchestrions
          >Monster Hunter became the raid series with hugely unique fights, unique armor sets for every single job and not 10 pairs of black coats every tier

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          The worst part about Nier is that it's completely removed from the setting of the game. Every other Alliance Raid has at least made sense in the game world and been referenced in passing at some point. Nier just sits in it's little cuck corner of the game world.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >The worst part about Nier is that it's completely removed from the setting of the game.
            This is really the only objective criticism for the nier raids. At this point I'm convinced that people hate the nier raids because other people hate them.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >shit-tier music
          ok moron go away. I fucking HATED the entire raid series from the cutscenes to the actual fights, but the music was pretty great.
          I haven't run it since the first few times when they were new and will never run them again. Shittiest part of ShB.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Fights 2, 4, 6, 7, and 11 are really neat mechanically.

          of course i'm one of the few people who's actually played drakengard 1 to the point where i recognized what those bells meant when N2 let the light in, so i appreciate the cinematics of fights 5, 8 and 12 as well

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Nearly shit my self when I heard those bells
            >NO WAY NO FUCKING WAY THE MADMAN ACTUALLY FUCKING DID THE RHYTHM GAME OH FUCK OH FUCK WE'RE GONNA WIPE SO MUCH
            Was basically my reaction

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              was disappointed the black/white thing wasn't harder but ah well
              the only time I ever wished for ex/savage ARs

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Reminder that taro wanted to have a mechanic that wiped the whole raid if one person messed it up

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                yea he wanted all the red balls to be insta wipe

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                yea he wanted all the red balls to be insta wipe

                For the very last fight this would've been fine. None of the fights are really that hard

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                And then they gave us the qte in SoS where if one person doesn't mash hard enough or intentionally doesn't press anything the party wipes and there's no way to figure out who did it either, one massive gay can completely cockblock the party from beating the fight

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I think for 8 man that’s fine, 24 man has a higher fail chance

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Are you talking about the last fight? I was hoping for something much better but we just got worse suzaku

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                ?t=36

                we're talking pure spectacle here. drakengard's bosses are notorious for their true bullshit difficulty so anyone who recognized those bells probably had an inkling of what was to come

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Drakengard is such a fever dream.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Hey, Zero?
                >Yeah?
                >I-AUUUGGGGH

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                FUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKKK

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          You spelled "Ivalice Raids" wrong.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I always found the HW raid that had the Airship deck battle in the beginning filtered more people.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Fun Scaith is the only alliance raid that kills people nowadays. Ridorana and Orbonne have been mostly defanged.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          And raids STILL get rawdogged by ThunderCHAD Cid to this day
          Had a vote abandon a couple of days ago because of him

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            the hearts of shitters are black as night and must needs be filtered

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Bro you have to move an aoe to a safe spot and not stand in giant obvious attacks
            people pretending over shit like this is always funny

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >people so bad that we hit enrage on the first boss
          No wonder gays only want to do CT raids, 90% of pugs are stupid

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Eh, it's fast enough these days

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      There's a group of people on my DC who run the nier raids every week in PF for glam.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Its the better Nier raid anyway.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      *strips down to 50 ilvl*
      heh... nothin personell...

  50. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    More like you need a time machine to go back before every job was completely raped.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      every job besides dark knight has only been improved as time has gone on
      and no I don't even play dark knight

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      just play lost ark

  51. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I want an offline version

    I'm not playing an mmo square fuck off

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      me too
      if there was an offline version of ffxiv people would see it for how shit it is
      i want you to really think about this, would you find ffxiv’ as gameplay and questing acceptable in a single player game?

  52. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Getting dun scaith with a bunch of first timers is incredible. Watching half the raid die over and over on the first boss is great.

  53. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    when will they rerelease the original FF XIV or remaster it with the current XIV gameplay?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      They should just adapt it into an action rpg. No one would actually want to play 1.0 as an MMO but I think enough people are interested in it from a lore/history aspect.

  54. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The boss fights in this game, particularly the ex trials are some of the best video games in general have to offer

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Sadly ex fights offer nothing appart for a shitty mount hence no one wants to do them

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I know, it's a pain finding people who want to run them purely for the experience without resorting to using discords or a guild. But when I managed, those fights blew me away. The teamwork, the coordination, the godly music, even if the graphics are bit dated, the actual art design is great. It was amazing

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >even if the graphics are bit dated
          It's amazing how much better the game looks just with a simple shader. The vanilla lighting is washed out and ugly.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Some are insanely fun and you can convince people to do it. People do full blue mage alliance raids. There's always a chance.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Weapon and decoration mats

  55. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    stormblood ruined the experience for me
    what a shit bunch of characters
    im not putting more time in some maybe it will get better again
    titan was enough

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      tragic yet understandable, ala mhiggers is far worse than anything arr had to suffer through

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Maybe
      It DOES get better.
      Keep at it, even SB gets good.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Don't get filtered inches from kino.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I get it bro, I also almost quit when they literally tried to replace best Scion (pic related) with Lyse of all people.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Y'shtola is shit and best Scion is my boy Estinien

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          I respect your opinion, Estinien is pretty cool, but Shtola will remain my Number 1.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Worst character.
            Big bitch and useless.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Then how come she's the main representative to be in crossover Final Fantasy games like Dissidia, if she's so useless to you?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Then how come she's the main representative to be in crossover Final Fantasy games like Dissidia, if she's so useless to you?
                she's the black mage and black mages get top billing in ensembles like this because they're the most iconic job
                same reason shantotto is the rep from 11

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                yshtola is a white mage in dissida though

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                because they had a mixup of what the two jobs were going to be in 14
                which is kind of dumb but whatever, it didn't end up mattering in the end, conjurer was originally closer to "black mage" even though it didn't exist at the time

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Snatotoos the Dissodoa rep because she's beened into being the most powerful entity in the FF multiverse

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                didn't she lose her rift powers real quick or can she pal around with gilgamesh now

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                there's tiny pieces on the F and J keys to help you align your hands on the keyboard without you having to look at it

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                That's what I get for trying to phoneposf while eating breakfast

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                How many phoneposters exist ?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                i hated nt
                the first two games were actually fun and then they went and hollowed it out and made that downs baby of a game

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I am low key proud that Y'shtola sticks around with the other FF main characters. For all the shit she goes through on behalf of the WoL she deserves to be the rep. Also, since she isn't an angsty teenager nor a meme character, she meshes so incredibly well with the cast in the Crossover games. Her basically pulling another Magni when Zidane tries to hit on her was based.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >For all the shit she goes through on behalf of the WoL
                Such as?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                She once sat on a bench and refused to help me do the ACTUAL fetch quests I was given prior to Titan for the Company of Heroes.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Having to fake death for the 1000th time is hard.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You make her worry all the time

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >constantly throws herself in front of way stronger people to protect idiots like lyse
                >gets sliced in half by zenos
                >loses her eyesight in an attempt to save you, thancred and minfilia, doesn't cry about it, instead makes it work despite it being taxing on her body
                >loses her close friend Papalymo, doesn't cry about it, instead throws herself into her work to help the WoL
                >the ONLY fucking scion who doesn't want to go along with the 'Let's fill with WoL with LIGHT and see what happens plan', worrying about your health
                >never ever becomes mopey, secretive or anything of the like, always has your back 100%
                Also
                >if you talk to the nights blessed after you got knocked out from absorbing the lightwarden, they tell you they have never seen her being so worried and fearful before

                She is just someone who keeps her feelings mostly to herself but cares a lot about the player character.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Because COOMBAIT

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >Big bitch
              >Big
              you are correct xir

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Y'shtola is shit and best Scion is my boy Estinien

              Whatever loser.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Y'shtola is shit and best Scion is my boy Estinien

              I agree Estinien is probably the best Scion by far but I don't appreciate you talking shit about my wife pal. I for one am glad it seems thus far to just be the three of us going into the next two patches and hopefully 7.0

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly recommend paying for a story skip rather than suffer through Stormblood because Shadowbringers was worth it

  56. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Just play Classic for the non-pozzed experienc-

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >they kept the "body type" even in classic
      come on.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      kek it has to be fake, please tell me it's fake.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        You know it isn't.

  57. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Remember black mage chads rule this game and Yoshi will not allow anyone else to get close.

  58. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    ShB has way too many raids and trials where you lose control of your character to watch a 2 minute cutscene in the middle of the fucking fight. Tell me they don't do this in EW too?

  59. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Mama mia!

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      AY OH

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      No one can read that

  60. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I want an expansion where the WoL gets sent back in time, to the height of the Allagan empire. No scions. Just us.

  61. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    MMO's are just a shitty genre to begin with, the concept seems amazing but the actual experience is a tedious souless grindfest.

  62. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The worst part is that it is unironically true.

    ShB is really a special experience with very few equivalents in the industry, but it does require you to play everything up to it.

  63. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >queue for trials
    >all I ever get is titan, nabriales or steps of faith
    >queue for raids
    >all I ever get is alexander (and never the fun ones)
    >queue for alliance raids
    >all I ever get is crystal tower ones
    at this point I just stopped queuing entirely

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      When I got a Hades trial I was nearly through the roof

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Weird. I get Hades and Shinryu all the time.
      For alliance, its mainly Crystal tower, true, but sometimes HW. And I even got Orbonne twice this week (for obvious reasons)

  64. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Here is my GALAXY BRAIN suggestion for fixing Alliance Raid roulette. Make the Crystal Tower raids part of the Main Scenario Roulette.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Why not just overhaul those raids since they are now mandatory anyway? And then change the queue system to stop exploiting it. Make it so the game doesn't consider what you have equipped, but rather what you have available for the job even if its in your inventory, storage, etc.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Checking for potential ilvl in your Armoury Chest sounds like a lot of unnecessary coding work for something that people could just exploit anyways by putting all their high ilvl items in their retainers when you could just put it in the roulette that's for mandatory content.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          You actually believe their bullshit about coding being too difficult? The team is either just being lazy and lying to Yoshida, or are painfully incompetent and all need to be fired for younger people.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't say it would be difficult I just said it would be unnecessary because people will find a way to game the system. Even if you made it so the game checked every type of inventory storage possible people would probably just mail their high level armor to an alt or a friend to get around it.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >people would probably just mail their high level armor to an alt or a friend to get around it.

              can't do either of these things

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              You uh, cant mail bound equipment anon.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >people would probably just mail their high level armor to an alt or a friend to get around it.

                can't do either of these things

                Oh yeah....

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      My dream would be for SE to rework the CT raids and they take so much time, people don't want to do them again Which would result in people spamming Void Ark instead but whatever

  65. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Oh.
    I don't play short games.

  66. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw the WoL spends most of the Eden questline being a third wheel for Ryne and Gaia

  67. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I also have a problem with my mini map, the quests only show up when I'm near them, so I have to follow them by constantly opening the map and it's really annoying
    I only have 3 in my journal currently and it still doesn't work, even if I select them in the duty log , I don't know if it's normal

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      If you make the square box next to the quests in your journal filled with yellow, they should stick on your minimap permanently until they are completed

  68. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It starts good and gets better.

  69. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Nier raid series is a reminder that XIV will never try anything thats not 100% safe. Let this be a lesson

  70. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't they introduce Moen during the ARR .0 story instead of bringing her in just to kill her right away?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Takes four expansions to get Urianger to finally get to apologizing to her parents

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      god I just want to be choked between her fat thighs

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        You will NEVER have an alpha bitch max height femroe dominate and love you

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I am 100% convinced they had no idea what to do after pushing base ARR out. They needed someone to sacrifice themself to the Ascians to build up drama and make the red dinner a bit more believable so they came up with Moenbryda.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because her death allows you to take down Nabriales. He is your legitimate first Ascian kill since Lahabrea survives the events of Realm Reborn to take another host for himself.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I think hes asking "Why didnt they introduce her sooner and give her more screen time, so her death was more impactful than someone we just met 10 minutes ago?"

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          i dunno why did they try and pretend posessing thancred meant literally anything to you when you knew him for all of 10 minutes if you didn't play 1.0

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >he didnt start in UlDah
            Oh no no no no no

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Unanimously hated by Japanese audience (and rightly so), glad she got axed

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        let me guess, fujos?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      She wasnt really around long enough for me to give a shit.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      They had no idea what they were doing or where the story was going in ARR, by their own admission. Ascian Prime in HW is the absolute final vestige of whatever original story existed, and if it were written today it probably would have been Lahabrea turning into a Greek god like Hermes and Hades

  71. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >according to the lastest financials XIV is pretty much tne only thing keeping SE afloat again
    But Ganker insists daily that the game is dying

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      If its the only thing giving them money (wich is for sure the gachas but ok dude) why its treat it so badly?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        because squeenix is terminally retarded and has been for 15 years (bar minimum, also see: spirits within before)
        you should be glad squeenix has largely ignored the game otherwise you get shit like ff13 and ff15

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Square Enix is run by the biggest collection of narcissists in the entire video game industry who will burn hundreds of millions on vanity projects that are doomed to fail straight out of the gate for the sake of their "vision".

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          I'm frankly stunned they even agreed for XIV to get redone the way it happened.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds based to me. The japs seem to be the only ones with an passion left. These retards want their vision so badly they'll ruin their company for it. Better than ugly screaming moron bitch game #47

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            They have passion but a complete lack of skill. They're old fashioned. The programmers are terrible, especially when talking about XIV. They are still making excuses about 1.0 ten years later instead of just fixing the game, claiming impossibility left and right. And then a modder fixes the issue in a month.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              You're not wrong, but I still dont thing that passion is inherently a bad thing. They just need someone to help turn that passion in to something that works how they want it. Still, I'll take the flawed passion project over the worthless shit that aaa games have become.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >And then a modder fixes the issue in a month.
              This reminds me how people found out that hats actually work on Viera/Hrothgar and that theres literally just a toggle to make them all work, and the clipping isnt even that bad.

  72. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    tbqh it has one of the better early game sections of any mmo I've tried
    stopped playing eventually though because I actually bought the game when it was on sale, but found out later if you literally -don't- buy the game you can play indefinitely as a "free trial" until the most recent expansion, but if you've actually bought it you HAVE to pay the subscription even if you're at the beginning of the story, so I said fuck that shit and cancelled my subscription.

  73. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Hades and Hermes kind of make all the other Ascians look like bitches for dying without even transforming first

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      what about the ascian primes

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Lahabrea and Igeyhorm or whatever her name was merge into a 1.0 callback at the end of HW

  74. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    can we get a caster dps that works like invoker?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I would love a caster that combines runes or something like ninja does with mudras. It'll never happen though.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      What is ninja

  75. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I dont like mmos and I think that makes me unique and cool.

    Anyway when is zenless zone zero coming out, I wanma play the furry characters and ignore everything else.

  76. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I just got the feeling that they're going to nerf the WoL somehow like some gayass Dragon Ball GT shit.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      you mean like when they did that in hw
      or when you go back to fighting rats ever killing gods at the end of the previous expansion

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      They've so far played your phenomenal cosmic power completely straight and you've been along for the ride since Stormblood

  77. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >new screenshots on the website show us already having a chat with Zenos Voidsent
    I expected them to draw that out a bit more honestly

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      my husband is coming back anons

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I imagine that he'd recognize our presence the instant we entered the 13th. He seemed quite concerned about saviors.

      Also, his model's name is Zero in the files

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Well that pretty well sets him up to be the final villain of the new arc then.
        >spend the next few patches fighting notGolbez and the Four Fiends
        >turns out this is what Zero(mus) wanted and turns on everyone at the end, compelling notGolbez to switch sides and help us
        It writes itself, really.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          well they're pretty good about using old characters, but with a twist. Anima from 10 and 14 for example were about helping their son gain the power he wanted. Just 10 did it willingly.

          Of course I could be wrong. Zenos' Avatar may be disappointed that there are no saviors in the 13th because he enjoys killing them

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Zenos' Avatar is (You) from the 13th, we're going to end up eating it at the end to regain another shard and as a result the twist for jobs in 7.0 is that all their abilities are going to get a wild n whacky Void flavor to them

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              I think you're right about the plot element, but good luck with the latter

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                My real hope is that we get a job based around Creation magic some time in the future that creates all sorts of aetheric weapon constructs to shoot around at the enemy. Weapon is a cosmic cube type thing carried in a similar manner to the Red Mage crystal focus.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >people expected the 13th to be the next expansion
      >people expected the 13th to be the new Eureka
      >people expected the 13th to be the new raid series
      The 13th is going to be a dungeon with a few cutscenes and that's all. Maybe a small lobby area. It's like people never learn.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >new raid series
        what?
        do you mean trial series? because it IS going to be that
        raid is WILD FREAKS and AR is the gods

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        The 13th is almost guaranteed to be the trial series.

  78. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    mmorpg expects you to power through unreasonable time of time untill stockholm syndrome and sunk cost fallacy kicks in and you genuinely believe it's good and you're having fun.
    more news at 10:30

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I agree some do, but FF isn't one.
      People legit love moments in the storyline and will watch streamers play through those part. To relive those moments.

  79. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    As opposite to ...... MMORPG which is great from the start?

  80. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >First real MMO
    >No friends play it
    >Finish ARR alone
    >It was alright
    >Ended up skipping the cutscenes because they were boring
    >Endgame is literally log in, do dailies, log off
    >Spending money to do this
    Is this what all MMOs are? It's fucking trash

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >skip shit
      >i'm bored!
      no shit

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        if the fun part of ffxiv is the cutscenes then i’ve got some bad news

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          what was the last active player count again i haven't checked lucky bancho in ages

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Mcdonalds is popular so its good!

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >popular things are automatically bad
              This can be cut both ways you know

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >you're not REALLY eating

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Mcdonalds is objectively good based on popularity. People who trash it are being pretentious and contrarian. Yes obviously better options exist, but the idea that anyone who likes something popular is a sheep is just arrogance.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                mcdonald’s isn’t good, it’s easy
                nobody goes there when they want a good meal, they go there when they want a fast, cheap meal
                xiv is actually kind of similar, it’s fast and easy for people unfamiliar with the genre, or video games in general, to get through
                for a lot of people it’s the only rpg they’ve ever played through all the way because the entire story portion of the game is retard-proof

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >Mcdonalds is bad because it's popular!
              also
              >Food analogy

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              McDonald's fries are a chemical shitstorm that fossilize instead of going stale, I will still happily gorge myself on them

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      The only dailies are tribal quest and its your own fault if you do that shit

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Skip the game
      >Bored
      wow!

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        so you’re admitting the game consists of just watching cutscenes
        and you like that?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          yes now go shitpost in some other thread, moron

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            why even play the game then?
            you can just watch some gay on youtube play it and it would be no different, or better yet watch those cutscene compilations they have on youtube

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              now go shitpost in some other thread, moron

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                you keep using that word, but i don’t think you know what it means

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                now go shitpost in some other thread, moron

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                bang bang skeet skeet
                i will never leave
                if it’s triggering you so much why don’t you go play your favorite shitty vn and erp with some like-minded fags pretending to be bunny girls in limsa

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                now go shitpost in some other thread, moron

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >play cutscenes
              >do raids, dungeons, trials with interesting premises
              >level up classic jobs and chill with friends
              etc

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          yes

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Its a new genre: MMOVN.
          And not even a good VN at that.

  81. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I can't wait for him to come back as notZenos and join the Scions. Maybe the devs will even have him possess the WoL's body again for maximum seething.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      ratio

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      At best we'll be seeing his voidsent avatar again

  82. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Should 7.0’s level cap be 99 or 100?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      My autism will be rankled in one way or another no matter what they pick

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      99, level 100 only for people who have beaten every single Ultimate.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        No one cares about your clears

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      99 for XI parity
      I believe AF gear at EW 89 was to beta test the 99 level cap

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >XI parity
        >when the level cap was 99 in FF3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Those ones aren't MMOs

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        That was probably so you could get the freebie armor for the final stretch of dungeons instead of only before the very end

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Ew af was 89 but lvl sync you to 90 when you lvl up

          established precedent of getting your cap gear at X9

          trust the plan

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Ew af was 89 but lvl sync you to 90 when you lvl up

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      99 only makes sense if they don't keep going

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      99
      I fully expect them to have """prestige""" jobs except it's the same shit with class>job so it doesn't actually change anything.
      i.e. the last level of 7.0 will be you as a "level 0" (maybe 1) of whatever the new job is but you're just level 100 technically

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      99 and then implement horizontal gearing.

  83. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Presentation matters in video games. You do not have to have the most deep storytelling or unique ideas in a story, as long as you present what you want to tell in something engaging (i.e character dialogue, good voice acting and central themes you call back to)

  84. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Guys, this game is getting really fucked up.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Of course. Has rape caves too.

  85. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    do you wear your FF shirts often in public, Ganker?
    they don't look too durable.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      no but I do have my giant gaudy black mage job stone garden gnomeelry

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      The print on the Alexander shirt I bought I can already tell won't last, but it's a damn nice shirt and tagless so w/e

  86. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I want grown up Gaia to sit on my face

  87. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Okay guys, check it. Ironmode setting for XIV. But all it does is once locked in for that expansion, you cannot skip any cutscenes, or speed up any dialogue, its auto play or pause only. And at the end of the expansion you get a special title like "Listener".

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      i think i’d rather cut one of my own fingers off than do that

  88. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    bros why did Elidibus start forgetting shit?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Apparently when Ascians switch bodies, over time they forget things, go loopy, etc. I assume Emet avoided this by choosing bodies that avoided public attention so he could stay in them for ages at a time.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Unlike emet who actually rests and sleeps a few centuries laha and elidibus worked nonstop

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Lived too long, too many lives. He kept taking bodies

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      worked too much essentially

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      old, never refreshed his memory

  89. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I love XIV, but that is the biggest issue. The pre level cap experience, with incredibly incomplete jobs, most of which don't have an aoe ability till 40 something, is fucking dumb.

    Also the story is SUPER hit or miss, I just ran through it all again on a friends server. 2.x is hot garbage, 3.x is pretty good, 4.x is again fucking garbage, SHB has moments of pure kino, and EW has a few good moments, but the story culminating with a tulpa bird that has asspull magic that was near unheard of until the expansion and can't overcome babbies first existential crisis is..............quite possibly the dumbest way they could have written the ending.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, it should have been lavos

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        That's what I was thinking too honestly...
        But I think Nihilism bird was okay. It's a theme that FF did before.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          It was basically a sendup to all the SNES FF villains, worked well enough IMO

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      how did you have the time to play through this entire thing twice?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Every time they go back and redo jobs they push stuff earlier to make up for all the old shit the ARR jobs lost
      SMN is basically complete as soon as you have all 3 summons
      Chakra on MNK got moved from 56 to like level 15 which helps it a ton early
      The only jobs that are really still like 2 buttons for 50 levels are DRG and BRD, and maybe DRK could probably use a weaker pre-upgrade version of some of their very late defensive stuff. Like some kind of super parry to start with that upgrades to Blackest Night.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, they'll just give DRK
        ENHANCED UNMEND
        earlier.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, they'll just give DRK
        ENHANCED UNMEND
        earlier.

        dark knight will forever be fucked because it's a tank and not a suicidal dps

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          I can kind of understand making DRK a tank, but making GNB a tank class will always be puzzling to me.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            well it's a new job so it doesn't have much job hsitory even if it is "Squall but as a job because gunblades are cool"

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            They went for the bodyguard angle on it and they probably aren't ever gonna add 2 DPS in one expansion after it fucked up instance queues for half of Stormblood with a flood of people leveling SAM and RDM

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            To be fair, they did write some cute lore around it that justifies it not having anything to do with actual guns and being a tank.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          i could never understand the logic of making the class whose whole thing is killing itself for big damage into a tank
          i mean yeah xiv jobs often barely resemble what they’re like in previous games, but that was literally the dark knights whole thing

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            they at least TRY
            like, I personally think red mage is boring as shit but they absolutely tried to keep it in line with "what is a red mage"
            the only thing dark knight about 14 dark knight is it's edgy

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Should've done more with the Blood Gauge, make it act like a substitute health bar for abilities instead of it getting used for 1 move.
              A lot of jobs have a problem of having these resource gauges that only get used for 1 thing

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            PVP DRK is much closer to the traditional image of what the class should be.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              that's why I like new pvp a lot
              dragoon and white mage feel a lot more what they should feel like even if black mage feels like ass to play since they made it wrong as a joke, even if it's super buff now

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Nihilism bird was a straight slap in the face. The penultimate big bad is literally just a dumbfuck who couldn't cope with her first brush with nihilism during an existential crisis, who also happens to posess magic that was so SPESHUL that even 99% of Ascians had no idea it existed, and when more of them find out they get mind wiped.

      Its just a long run on string of overly convenient plot points pulled out of the writers asses its actually unbelievable. Yoshi did ask people to stop paying so much attention to every detail of the story, and I'm not surprised, because its bad.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        if she were truly nihilistic she wouldn't have interfered with the natural state anon. also, meteion is not the antagonist, hermes is. is meteor the antagonist of 7? time compression of 8?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, not a fan of EW. SHB was straight kino, then they end the big overarching story with pure garbage.
        And now they'll barely have to bother, because they are only writing oneshots per expansion from now on. Just fanservice.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >during an existential crisis
        Meteion didn't have any free thought, she was basically an AI that just parroted the emotions of what she encountered and all she found out in space was dying worlds.
        It's a mashup of like three pretty typical scifi plots.

  90. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Im gonna fucking laugh if one of the raids eventually has like a Typing of the Dead quicktime event. And you have to type exactly what the boss said a minute ago or you ge a vuln+damage down and he calls you stupid.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Free kupo nuts (Savage)

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