Yeah, it's really bad too. Not scary in the slightest and it's about teenage social media bullying. Also Silent Hill in this game came from Covid (I'm not kidding).
I think I can see where they wanted to go with this, but ended up botching the delivery. We know that the fog world can be accessed by psychics, brought forth via ritual, and people with only the thinnest of latent ability can still slip between the cracks when experiencing extreme emotional distress. Queue the coof, the worldwide mass hysteria that went with it, and the feelings of isolation that grew and ate into people because they were afraid of getting the disease. Call it a ripe situation for a shitload of people to be stepping onto the threshold all at once.
Jesus. Not only does this date the game horribly and makes it set in our world but it also tries to ape Resident Evil in the worst possible way. Viruses do not belong in Silent Hill.
Anon, you do know that SH1 is really about a guy fighting against a drug cartel?
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Anonymous
why is Ganker full of morons who blatantly misinterpret these stories even when they're not that complex? the drug cartel shit was a 20 minute side quest, not the full game. SH1 and 3 are about the cult, not the drug cartel that funds their operations.
>Dr. XXX >XXX University
They couldn't even invent a fricking name?
How is that difficult???
Wtf is that lazy af writing I swear...
Not to mention protagonists from the same franchise 20 years ago looked more charismatic.
>They couldn't even invent a fricking name?
Blame the Japanese and their "A certain organization" grammar where they can write sentences that don't have a subject.
That's extremely common in Japanese media. They do the same thing with dates and license, phone numbers, and pretty much everything of the sort to create a sense of mystery and prevent accidentally naming it after something real.
>forced to live in this society >just suffer pushing through, enduring the best I can >normalgays lives a year in my reality >shit, piss and kill themselves
Best thing to have ever happened, shit was cathartic
Yeah it was the response to a disease that killed millions, not the disease that killed millions.
I swear to christ you homosexuals have just made up a completely different history of what happened.
If anything the LACK of a strong response was the problem. It destroyed whatever little faith was left in public institutions.
>Yeah it was the response to a disease that killed millions, not the disease that killed millions.
That has nothing to do with the post that you responded to.
>Normalgays who don't even know how to wash their hands try to be more hygienic >Somehow this is bad
???
Unless you're Chinese nobody was forcing you to partake in this behavior
4 months ago
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>clearly shows UK and aussie lockdowns >Unless you're Chinese nobody was forcing you to partake in this behavior >I swear to christ you homosexuals have just made up a completely different history of what happened.
4 months ago
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>clips from American and Brazilian cities = clearly showing UK & Aussies
Huh?
>This was a vanity project for some rich guys kid.
It's literally directed by the guy who controls the entire Silent Hill franchise. It's like saying Ground Zeroes is a vanity project. (It was.)
What's interesting is that The Short Message is directed by Motoi Okamoto, who is the producer in charge of the entire Silent Hill franchise. So The Short Message is very much the foundation for the future of the franchise, and his particular interpretation of it.
I haven't seen a lot of people talking about who made this game, and it's role within the larger series. (It is a teaser for Silent Hill 5, whatever that is. Maybe it's SH f, maybe it's the SH game that the internal SH team is making, who knows.)
She had a shitty mother that neglected her and her brother to the point the brother died from starvation.
She is basically a loner that befriended a depressed artist, only go indirectly cause her suicide because she was jealous she was more close to another friend of her (woman moment).
Than she feels guilty for this, getting chased by an weird looking entity shattered memories style.
It end with the protagonist realizing what she has done, but before suiciding herself by jumping from the building, she get an sms from that one alive friend of her that ask her for go togheter shopping.... So she realizes someone cares for her and decide to not jump (happy boring ending).
Silent hill here is just a psicological effect (but is real and actual magic) some teens experiences when guilty of something....
Basically a generic teen drama with the monster being the trauma with the name Silent hill slapped on it.
Also the gameplay is a cheap reash of PT.
How hard is it to just make a game IN SILENT HILL? I don’t understand the obsession with making it a phenomena that happens globally. Just get back to the basics with the cult.
The last One is like that and it can be a bit tricky of you don'tget the "mechanic" and you have to redo all over again if you die,the others are just running trying to find the exit,just like Shattered Memories.
Honestly, I have high hopes for F since it seems to have strong Japanese roots and is taking the concept in a unique direction that isn't stupid, teen drama bullshit like this game.
> is taking the concept in a unique direction that isn't stupid, teen drama bullshit like this game > Trailer for f shows a teen running away from red rape tentacles and looking over some friend's grave.
Yeah, but the story is based in Japan and because of that, will likely have a far more mature approach to the concept. Especially if it is a story dealing with loss and is written by Ryukishi. I trust him to do this story right because he has people to reign him in and his previous works show a good track record when dealing with similar themes. Silent Hill F gives me strong Higurashi and Higanbana vibes especially, which is good because Higanbana is one of his most passionate, yet underrated works.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>because he has people to reign him in
This is really the key point. If R07 has a team who are willing to stand up to him it could be good. If he gets free reign it will turn out garbage just like everything Higurashi related in the past decade.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I hope there a DBZ scene where are MC fights the final boss in sky combat shooting kamehameha's.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Old DBZ fight scene bad >New DBZ fight scene good
4 months ago
Anonymous
>will likely have a far more mature approach to the concept
07 is a fricking hack lol, dude is stuck in his old japanese village sandpit in between inserting terrible dragonball z action sequences and memberberry shit
4 months ago
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>reducing an entire story down to one short scene at the very end
Sh2 is fricking shit lol, fighting a floating bed what is this Guilty Gear nonsense
I've watched 10 videos and the only person to even somewhat I like it was Voidburger. And she was wishy washy on liking it and even her buttbuddy Bobsvids hated it.
she basically said that yeah the game is hammy and dumb but they did try and there is empathy to it
The morality side people like PatStaresAt have been bringing up she didn't really comment on, other than basically saying the main character is an idiot but that's excusable because she's 15
I don't really trust Pat though, literally every time I've seen him say anything on any subject it's been groan-inducing and moronic so... he also seems to be doing the poor media literacy thing where he's saying a story depicting something means it approves of that thing
4 months ago
Anonymous
> he's saying a story depicting something means it approves of that thing
to be fair the game really hammers in your head about how suicide is a beautiful thing through Maya and some notes
4 months ago
Anonymous
That's just typical Jap culture. They're been doing honorable suicide for the last 1000 years.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I just get a really cringe feeling out of watching all these 30+ year old motherfrickers break down and psychoanalyze such a horribly shallow story because they can't let go of Silent Hill and need it to be this deep, important pillar of video games
This series hasn't been worth talking about for 20 fricking years, everyone has moved on, why couldn't they just let it die
4 months ago
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I'm of this mindset as well, we got three GREAT games and a bunch of mid to bad ones, culminating in the second worst portable dungeon crawler of all time in 2012, and I thought that was it. Thank God it's over.
But it wasn't. And thr narrative is "SH fans" should be "thankful" the "franchise tm" is getting another shot.
No.
"Why should I?"
I dont understand this pathological need for anything with a sequel to continue forever.
I can't believe I'm agreeing with GameSpot, but I'm with them on every point except the monster design. I thought it looked like those tall monsters from SH3, just with cherry blossoms all over it.
>Chase sequences that feels frustratingly trial-and-error
Skill issue. I managed to beat all of them on the first try, and it was not even that hard. Also, some horror games have a mechanic that when you die and retry the same section, it will be now easier, to help you to not get stuck i guess. This game does not have that, i bet that the reviewer got stuck in the last chase sequence, dying over and over, he got filtered and came up with this bullshit about trial-and-error LMAO
The only hard chase sequence is the final one and it mostly just depends on how quickly you can figure out what you're supposed to do. I can't believe game reviewers are so shit they are losing at linear haunted house games designed for fricking zoomers lmao
>game set in germany >you play as some brown mutt >theme is "internet bullying" >silent hill came from covid >jump scare walking simulator
i hate every single thing about this
watched a play-through on israelitetube, checked out in the first 2 minutes.
don't even know the story but listening to a whiny teen doing that "shivering girly" voice for 2 hours would just drives me up the fricking wall.
why do normalgays treat Silent Hill like some kind of sacred cow?
2 is only talked about because of le twist ending and 3 is a decent game overall. that's it. the franchise as a whole is absolute garbage.
because they saw the hollywood movies and saw how spooky pyramid head was. i don't think there's really anything konami can do to bring the series back without a major change in management. a lot of the old developers that were in their prime in the 90s don't really have any good ideas anymore. The longer you stay in game dev the more you become irrelevant it seems.
Isn't Silent Hill f the real litmus test?
Then again, with how shit these other projects have been, maybe f won't even matter even if it's somehow excellent.
There's a reason why silent hill essentially ended after 3. The Japanese basically did everything they wanted to with the series. Everybody in charge of silent hill these days is so out of touch with what made the trilogy so good to begin with. They are clearly making it for a younger demographic but it just comes off more like a parody of silent hill than an authentic physiological horror story.
When I was in highschool I got bullied pretty hard, I almost lost an eye because a homosexual tought it was funny throwing chemicals at me during chemistry lab. This game is shit
I don't think the leftovers at Konami are that talented, but I do think Sony contracted them to make this game so they called all the shots like the protag must be an ugly mutt.
>girl was bullied into depression and suicide attempts >she was never called anything worse than bully/coward/liar/bawd
it feels like this was a T rated game except for the gore
So half of those new SH super projects were shitty apps that flopped on launch day.
Also SH2 remake looks like an action third person Resident evil, ruining the concept and soul of the series...nice
it will bring waves of braindead coomer weeb rats into SH fanbase
but at least it would be funny to see them clashing with the twitter/reddit posers over the sexualization of minor girls in SH
>Also SH2 remake looks like an action third person Resident evil, ruining the concept and soul of the series...nice
Silent Hill was always Konami's store brand Resident Evil knockoff so it's perfectly fitting that they're still trying and failing to copy it.
Not many zoomers can grasp how to move a character with tank controls, so it's the best bet they got. Besides RE2/4 Remake sales are a good incentive to copy this camera.
>Contracted to make the Chris DLC for RE7 >Capcom found it so irredeemably bad they decided to spend more money to just redo it from scratch themselves
so why is Silent Hill of all franchises suddenly this designated whipping boy for the shittest vaguely-horror-related concepts that dinosaurs in business suits can think up of?
First it was Ascension and trying to sell you a "legendary sticker" of "it's TRAUMA!" for $15 alongside some kind of "interactive community CYOA" that doesn't even work anywhere as intended and now we have Short Message which is about "cyberbullying"
What's next, a Silent Hill where the game is a collab with Raid shadow legends?
I think the recent REmakes have made konami want to try their luck with something similar, but the problem is they're just throwing the same old shit against the wall and using the SH name in hopes it'll be the glue to make it stick.
>it's a silent hill game about fricking HIGHSCHOOL TEENAGE GIRLS being suicidal over namecalling and likes on social media
Are the people making these games and the zooms they're trying to pander to seriously this devoid of real life problems, adversities and struggles that we're getting big name horror games about "cyberbullying" now? Jesus frick. We're gonna need another world war for videogames, TV, movies and books for to get good again.
Just make Silent Hill 1/2/3 again but with different characters and have them go in different buildings than we saw in the first 3
You need to keep tank controls, going the RE2 remake route like (SH2 remake is) will suck any suspense and horror right out and make it an action game
Don't make it a shitty Outlast clone where the 'gameplay' is just managing batteries and walking through areas until a monster jumps out and you just run away
The original games were action games too >boss fights >grenade launchers >rocket launchers
Survival horror have always been action games. When will Ganker posers learn this? I guess when they actually play the fricking games which is never
If you fail to see the differences between SH and even classic RE's approach to gameplay and combat then you're far too low IQ to be discussing anything, that is if you've even played either before and not just a zoomer who formed their opinions from e-celebs and let's plays.
>Survival horror have always been action games. When will Ganker posers learn this?
no, RE was always survival horror with some action packed moments until 4 when it started swinging the other way around and then we had 6 which was an action game in a RE setting.
also >boss fights make it an action game
lol
Yes and survival horror have always been action focused you fricking morons. They've always been action games. A game doesn't become an action game just because it has a higher number of enemies on screen. Did you know that Rythm games are action games too? Platfomers? Action simply means the game relies on the player's reflexes and skills to complete its tasks. RE4/RE2R is just as much a survival horror as every game preceding it because it still plays clunky with a limited FOV and ammo conservation.
You fundamentally don't understand what survival horror even is yet you love to proclaim yourselves experts on it. If you homosexuals are still here answer me this: what is survival horror?
>Yes and survival horror have always been action focused you fricking morons.
having elements of action and being an action game are two different things. >RE4/RE2R is just as much a survival horror as every game preceding it >When will Ganker posers learn this? I guess when they actually play the fricking games which is never
lol
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Anonymous
You aren't actually addressing any of my points. Tell me what isn't action about any of the stuff I just mentioned that's been a part of the RE games since the beginning? It's not just "elements of action" because it's a video game, not a movie. You're thinking that "action" means Michael Bay explosions because you're looking at it through a cinematic lens. That's not how this works for video games which is an interactive medium. RE4/RE2R has more in common with the classic RE games than something like F.E.A.R. which is an actual full blown shooter. Further, you use action and action-adventure interchangeably which aren't mutually exclusive.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>You aren't actually addressing any of my points.
because they're fricking stupid, anon.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not the one who can't grasp the concept of a video game genre.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm not the one who can't grasp the concept of a video game genre. >The original games were action games too
>Survival horror have always been action games. When will Ganker posers learn this?
no, RE was always survival horror with some action packed moments until 4 when it started swinging the other way around and then we had 6 which was an action game in a RE setting.
also >boss fights make it an action game
lol
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Yes and survival horror have always been action focused you fricking morons. They've always been action games. A game doesn't become an action game just because it has a higher number of enemies on screen. Did you know that Rythm games are action games too? Platfomers? Action simply means the game relies on the player's reflexes and skills to complete its tasks. RE4/RE2R is just as much a survival horror as every game preceding it because it still plays clunky with a limited FOV and ammo conservation.
You fundamentally don't understand what survival horror even is yet you love to proclaim yourselves experts on it. If you homosexuals are still here answer me this: what is survival horror?
Yeah that's what I thought you fricking poser homosexual.
You aren't actually addressing any of my points. Tell me what isn't action about any of the stuff I just mentioned that's been a part of the RE games since the beginning? It's not just "elements of action" because it's a video game, not a movie. You're thinking that "action" means Michael Bay explosions because you're looking at it through a cinematic lens. That's not how this works for video games which is an interactive medium. RE4/RE2R has more in common with the classic RE games than something like F.E.A.R. which is an actual full blown shooter. Further, you use action and action-adventure interchangeably which aren't mutually exclusive.
What is survival horror? Why can't you answer this question? Are you too stupid to articulate your thoughts?
What is survival horror?
>Silent Hill has guns so it's just like Resident Evil
So this is the audience the SH2 remake is being made for.
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Yes and survival horror have always been action focused you fricking morons. They've always been action games. A game doesn't become an action game just because it has a higher number of enemies on screen. Did you know that Rythm games are action games too? Platfomers? Action simply means the game relies on the player's reflexes and skills to complete its tasks. RE4/RE2R is just as much a survival horror as every game preceding it because it still plays clunky with a limited FOV and ammo conservation.
You fundamentally don't understand what survival horror even is yet you love to proclaim yourselves experts on it. If you homosexuals are still here answer me this: what is survival horror?
Can you just do me a favor and leave the hobby as a whole?
Thanks in advance.
Probably take a cue from Disco Elysium and make it about an addict struggling with his demons. I'd also set it in daylight since Team Silent was going to do that with Silent Hill 5 before they were disbanded. Then I'd force my writers to watch True Detective and learn basic subtlety.
Wait this shit came out? Holy frick
It looks kind of bad and nothing I expected from the trailer years ago.
Silent hill just needs to stay dead, they're trying to give it the re7 re2r treatment but none of it works.
Was Covid really this horrible traumatic experience for normies or something? My life literally didn’t change, still stayed in my room neeting it up with games. People who need face-to-face social interaction to survive are so pathetic.
covid was a speeding up of the descent of western society into mass hysteria that showed that you can literally make people believe anything if you just scream it loud enough on the television and in articles, the lunacy of that time is something everybody wants to move past but shouldn't, all of it needs to be adressed
My life might be better off because of Covid. And apparently it traumatized normies and they consider it one of the worst historical events they've had to live through.
Was Covid really this horrible traumatic experience for normies or something? My life literally didn’t change, still stayed in my room neeting it up with games. People who need face-to-face social interaction to survive are so pathetic.
>Covid landed me a job
Sounds like a lot of people had skill issues.
You know, shit like this makes me really worried about the future of media as a whole. I feel like the old guard that used to deliver the good stuff is slowly wintering away or losing it's edge while a bunch of new comers are just ruining their legacy while also not delivering any new that is also good.
I am sure we still get good things every now and then but during my teenage to college years it used to be banger after banger. Maybe there a tad of nostalgia there but that is how i feel about it.
How did they even get the budget for this + that live show abortions?
Literally ANYONE could predict they would bomb hard.
Even the pachinko versions probably had more thought put into them.
>...but you gays dick ride SH2 soo hard that it become this shitty ´´Its trauma!`` crap. >can't even remake a 20 yr old game without royally fricking it up
tomm, is that you?
tomm also claimed to be a huge fan of 2 while also shittalking it constantly; that's pretty much par for the course with remakes.
SH2 was the weakest out of 1-3 because it didn't capture the atmosphere of 1, the horror aspect was much more passive than 3, and the puzzles were worse than both games.
SH4 is just a good premise wrapped up in joke,
>tomm also claimed to be a huge fan of 2 while also shittalking it constantly;
I don't see the problem there. SH2 is a fricking dogshit videogame with a decent story. Being in denial of that doesn't make you a fan. It makes you a moron.
>I don't see the problem there. SH2 is a fricking dogshit videogame with a decent story.
you don't see a problem with hating a video game for being a video game, but like the story so you're trying to change other people's opinion on the game.
the one you didn't like except for the wiki plot summary you read.
What's interesting is that The Short Message is directed by Motoi Okamoto, who is the producer in charge of the entire Silent Hill franchise. So The Short Message is very much the foundation for the future of the franchise, and his particular interpretation of it.
I haven't seen a lot of people talking about who made this game, and it's role within the larger series. (It is a teaser for Silent Hill 5, whatever that is. Maybe it's SH f, maybe it's the SH game that the internal SH team is making, who knows.)
>game has four fricking suicide warning
Are people just that weak willed now that a game needs to lay down multiple times that it is about suicide and that people shouldn't kill themselves?
Finally someone who isn't a contrarian and can see that this game isn't actually some underappreciated gem. It's literally a walking sim "psychological horror" like every Bloober game made post-PT
I get trying to appeal to a younger crowd with the cyberbullying slop, but why exactly did they make the protagonist some goblina? Do people look at her and think "Yep, this is who horror game enthusiasts would identify with and want to play as"?
I never was a fan of silent hill really, I played them but they were never great to me and even I can see how israeliteed this franchise is getting, this is bad.
Konami hires Motoi Okamoto as the lead producer for the Silent Hill -series in 2019.
Konami's idea is to give the Silent Hill IP to multiple different parties to create their own version of the series for the relaunch of the franchise.
There are also staff internally at Konami, who love Silent Hill and horror games in general, so Konami starts their own Silent Hill -project
Because it has been 20 years since The Room or any horror game in general at Konami, they decide to start with a smaller scale project to see if they can create a horror title and then with the experience from this project, start working towards a fuller title
They wanted to partner with a developer from Japan, who have experience on working with horror games, to work on the project, so they went with HEXADRIVE, who had already pitched their version of Silent Hill 2 Remake to Konami earlier (also Konami had offered them to port earlier titles, but HEXADRIVE wants to create a new title for current generation consoles).
Okamoto/Konami has the idea/scenario for The Short Message and they hire Kiichi Kanoh to flesh it out. Also Masahiro Ito is hired to create the monster design and Akira Yamaoka as the composer/sound director.
The work for The Short Message happened between 2020-2022 (the developer interviews were done in September-December 2022 and the game had finished by then), but due to reasons such as COVID, the release didn't happen until 2024.
i dont know about any of those except for yamaoka. sh is the product of the auteur of toyama. its basically his work. without toyama, nobody can make any decent sh game. the dude is such a talented man but the higurashi hill will be probably a much better spin off than that and as interesting as sh3 which wasnt toyomas work.
I miss when seeing Akira Yamaoka involved gave me some hope but then countless fans blew so much smoke up his ass and his contributions got so inflated that he's become massively overrated. His music in 2 was great but in the other games it ranges from serviceable to forgettable for the most part.
Frankly I cannot wait for 07 and his console lackey to be absolutely fricking exposed by an actual video game fanbase instead of hiding behind "it's just a shitty VN/gacha/side manga!" and only people into it were watching Gou/Sotsu.
Also wtf is this
I know it was by the console arcs guy but didn't he say he delayed Ciconia Phase 2 because he didn't want to bring up covid?
I do kinda like what Konami is trying to do with the SH effect so it can take place in other areas around the world. Setting the game in the same town or just shitty crapshoots around it really doesn't work too well after the first 3 games and becomes more contrived. But the way they handled it is dumb and I don't have any hopes F will explain it well but I'm buying it anyways because it's set in Japan and I'm a weeb.
Before release I was interested in the flower/sticky note theme and was wondering how they'd integrate that into the otherworld. After watching a playthrough, it's apparent they didn't even try and just fell back on the usual rust, grates and blood.
Overall though I didn't hate it. The music was good as expected and the monster was interesting enough. I liked how the cellphone was integrated. The story is another SH2 clone but I didn't expect anything different from Konami in 2024. I think it could've used more horrific imagery and if they're ripping off PT then they should have obfuscated how you get the real ending. I feel like the original plan was your character would keep killing herself until you figured something out but that fell by the wayside and it became a much more linear experience. I'd give it like a 5/10.
This is a prime example of why "write what you know" is so important. The director is an old Japanese man, so him writing an western zoomer getting bullied on social media comes off as laughable. This is why Silent Hill 4 worked. The creator clearly did understand how it felt to be trapped in an apartment. It unironically would have been far better to rehash 4 with covid shit.
At this point I don't even know how organic it is, it's clear that they unironically want to create a Silent Hill Cinematic Universe based around generic therapist town one shot stories.
Dyke Hill
i always knew one of these new SH projects will have homosexualry pandering in them but i thought it would be done by weternid i did not expect it to be done by a japanese studio
Silent Hill was always about the west as perceived by the Japanese. In this case instead of Hollywood movies as inspiration they are using zoomer social media posts. AKA, they're idiots.
the old games had that Japanese touch to them like the J-horor elements (especially in SH4) but there is non of that in Shit Message, i literally tought it was made by a Califronian studio or some shit until i saw the names in the credits
ngl it's impressive in a negative way seeing japanese studio managing to create their own goyslop undistinguishable from it's western goyslops
ASScnesion flopped so hard
Shit Message is also flopping and even critics are shitting on it
Troonfall will also flop because
Silent Hill homosexualry will flop because the majority of SH gays don't care about weeb shit
the remake will probably sell well and e-celebs will shill it but after some time passes it will get forgotten and by the time Bloober released their Born From A Wish paid DLC no one would be hyped for it anymore
>the majority of SH gays hate Japs
Konami did nothing wrong by giving the franchise to western devs like Boober. Apologize.
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Anonymous
>Bloober >western
Poolish games are western as much as Mount&Blade is
4 months ago
Anonymous
Tom was a bit of a dick but we give him too much shit for SH Collection, even Konami has scrapped their final builds. They don't give a shit. Don't give Shitnami attention. Go play the old games with enhanced mods.
Unironically Japanese woke is still "subtle" compared the US one.
If this game was made from amerimutts, the protagonist would've been 100% explicit dike, and the themes would've also involved sexism, bigottism, fascism and racism somehow.
when you're an adult with more media literacy you'll realize japanese, and chinese for that matter, media has had a focus on female friendships+ for millenniums
NTA but dykes were always more common than gays in tranime and manga but they were rare in vidya until the 7th generation
take for example Dragon's Dogma a certified LGBT game /vpol/ gives a pass
>What's up Silent Squad, it's ya boy JamesOfDaHillHD and today I've got something super special for you guys and I'm honestly really excited about this, but first... a word from our sponsors- >[5 minutes of unfunny "shitpost" advertisement for some mobile game or subscribtion service later] >ANYWAY! Let us get right into the topic of today's video. As you may know, I've recently received a letter from what seems to be my wife, who you may know as MaryDeets441... rest in peace. It seems like she actually... hang on... *paper rustling* sent me some kind of letter, so let me just... >*clears throat* >A-HEM! Okay, uh... ""In my restless dreams"... yeah, she sure had a lot of restless nights with me if you know what I'm saying, hehehe... okay, sorry. >"I see that town. Silent Hill." Wow thats crazy, I actually wanted to make a vlog there... >"You promised me you'd take me there again someday. But you never did." Wow, even after death? Come on gurl, chill out... geez... okay okay, I'll shut up now. >"Well, I'm alone there now... In our 'special place'... Waiting for you..." >LOOKS AT CAMERA >VINE BOOM.MP3 >DESK SLAM >GUYS >WHO WHOA WHOA >GAPING FACE.PNG >DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT MEANS??? >WE'RE GOING TO SILENT HILL BABEEEEE! >THAT'S RIGHT, I'M GONNA TAKE YOU GUYS THERE WITH ME >YOU'RE HEARING IT FROM ME RIGHT NOW, NEXT VIDEO IS GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE LONGER BUT ITS GONNA BE AN >EPIC >SPINE-CHILLING >EXCLUSSIVE >VLOG FROM MY TRIP TO SILENT HILL!!! WOOOOOO! GUYS I ALREADY CAN'T WAIT TO GET HERE! >MAKE SURE TO SMASH LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE IF YOU'RE AS HYPED AS I AM, AND I'LL SEE YOU GUYS... NEXT TIME!!! >outro
Gay blog post ahead.
If I was involved in making a SH game, I would >Make it about a city that's based on Tokyo but is set in America.
Make it a soulless drone town. >The plot is about a town learning to become a tightly knit community. About how disconnected citizens are from each other, even though they all live so close together - how people ignore issues and are eager to demonize each other - tie it to Alessa's death. Alienation; being overworked; collapsing on the street etc. >The ending is the city with all the lights out, everyone going outside and singing like it's Christmas. >amp up the David Lynch inspirations in terms of narrative and even gameplay, even if it filters some people.
That sort of thing during the Otherworld Midwich part of the first game when you exit one of the toilets and end up in a different version of the previous corridor? More of that. >Playstation 1-2 graphics make a return, since they've made a nice comeback nowadays. Maybe not too scarce on polygons like the first game, since stuff like the Otherworld looks much better in later games, but maybe more like in Source games. >The soundtrack is 80s music: inspirations ranging from early Swans, to Talk Talk, to Billy Idol.
TLDR: Just combine OK Computer with Silent Hill 1 and 4 and this is it.
>About how disconnected citizens are from each other, even though they all live so close together -
90% of stories set in cities are this
Please stop, we get it already.
I agree, but the LE CITY BAD theme is just a backdrop for character development and for some connection with Silent Hill, because that place was also a shithole with drug addicts, cults, and witch hunting. Imagine that but on the scale of New York or Tokyo.
>About how disconnected citizens are from each other, even though they all live so close together -
90% of stories set in cities are this
Please stop, we get it already.
>About how disconnected citizens are from each other, even though they all live so close together -
90% of stories set in cities are this
Please stop, we get it already.
Civilization can be measured in the amount of freedom you can have from interacting with others, people don't actually want to live in a tribe handholding singing kumbaya together all the time.
You see how those kind of themes may seem moronic but at least encourage discussion unlike >im getting le cyberbullied waah
Just make it a critique of the Japanese social life.
The cyberculture thing could be interesting if well executed and written by someone smart, the problem is that people making games today have never heard of Baudrillard.
hardest red pill to swallow:
Silent Hill 2 is not a good game.
It was just the first (at least in mainstream) game to has a big twist ending tat also included repressed memory nonsense.
it was the time where normalgays tried to force the meme that video games can be equal to movies in terms of writing and directing.
>It was just the first (at least in mainstream) game to has a big twist ending tat also included repressed memory nonsense.
You moron. >equal to movies
And that's why SH2 isn't very good.
>in America and Japan FF7 was several times more mainstream
because of Aerith's death. Literally no one was talking about that fricking part of the story.
they nailed the vibes i want from new sh, i cant with the walking sim gameplay. if it was 5 hours longer, had some extra enemies and a little combat (maybe just a pipe or knife and keep it close quarters) and a few puzzles it coulda been true kino
Yeh, maybe if they turned the sledgehammer that they used to fricking hammer the "online bullying is bad mmkay" down my throat and put it into the game so I can smash some physical representations of evil bad high school bullies, then it'd be good! It's only weakness was the lack of combat and it's short length!
>Silent Hill - good >Play Novel: Silent Hill - bad >Silent Hill 2 - good >Silent Hill 3 - good >Silent Hill 4: The Room - only half good >Silent Hill (mobile game) - bad >Silent Hill: The Arcade - bad >Silent Hill: Origins - bad >Silent Hill: Orphan - bad >Silent Hill: The Escape - bad >Silent Hill: Orphan 2 - bad >Silent Hill: Homecoming - bad >Silent Hill: Shattered Memories - passable >Silent Hill: Orphan 3 - bad >Silent Hill: Downpour - bad >Silent Hill HD Collection - bad >Silent Hill: Book of Memories - bad >P.T. - good >Silent Hill: Ascension - bad >Silent Hill: The Short Message - bad >Silent Hill 2 (remake) - looks bad >Silent Hill: Townfall - likely bad >Silent Hill f - trends forecast bad
4 out of 23 entries to the series are good and one of those was just a demo for a cancelled game. A mere 17% of games with "Silent Hill" in the title are actually good. The last truly good Silent Hill game is over 20 years old now, part of a production pan of a mere 5~ years. There was a 9 year gap between P.T. and Ascension. Of the stuff that's bad, some of it is SHOCKINGLY bad.
This doesn't count the other media either: one film is good, the other terrible, the pachinko machine is awful, all of the comics are awful. Any other crossover material is weak but whatever. Branded merch is usually garbage.
"Silent Hill" is usually a stamp of poor quality. The good games were a fluke in this context. You have a better chance of getting quality from almost any other video game brand name than "Silent Hill".
It set off a shitty trend, but it was amazingly frightening and did a lot with a little. I didn't even want to count it because it's just a promotional thing and I'm not convinced it was ever actually going to be a "Silent Hill" in the true sense, but it was technically a game.
The fricking creepy ass wife ghost. Her design was feverishly scary without rethreading established Masahiro Ito tropes (like every other monster in the series), and despite basically being a corpse, little tweaks like her jerky movements and her awkward way of standing made her uncanny as all hell. The general rendering style being so photorealistic added to it. And I get that once you play it and realise there's nothing she actually do to you/any sort of game mechanic that allows a fail state she stop being scary, you have to actually play the whole thing before you realise that. Plus some of the subtle mechanics that were there (events being triggered by where your camera was facing mostly) was pretty fresh.
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It was jumpscare galore with Kojima's nonsensical placement of random objects everywhere (e.g. see Death Stranding 2's trailer). It was not Silent Hill in the slightest. There were no Silent Hill visuals apart maybe for the eyeball paintings. I keep calling it discount Sadako simulator.
I wouldn't say it was very jump scare heavy. The more effective scares are when she's just standing there, looking at you.
Complaining about tropes... then praising a generic twitchy ghost...? Also, she can technically kill you and send you back to the starting room. This gives you a feeling of losing progress which counts as a fail state if you ask me.
It set off a shitty trend, but it was amazingly frightening and did a lot with a little. I didn't even want to count it because it's just a promotional thing and I'm not convinced it was ever actually going to be a "Silent Hill" in the true sense, but it was technically a game.
It was jumpscare galore with Kojima's nonsensical placement of random objects everywhere (e.g. see Death Stranding 2's trailer). It was not Silent Hill in the slightest. There were no Silent Hill visuals apart maybe for the eyeball paintings. I keep calling it discount Sadako simulator.
The first one. It's a different story from Silent Hill/has a whole different setting at the heart of it, but it's a competent plot with solid visuals pulled from the games. It's worth watching, maybe a solid 7/10 film. The sequel, Revelations, is hilariously bad. It's a direct sequel, but also somehow an adaptation of 3, so it doesn't work from the very beginning.
Why can't Konami revive Silent Hill PT, give it to Kojima and resume the development? Why did they have to create like 5 different games that no one asked for?
PT is a good proof of concept, but with how Death Stranding and now DS2 is turning out I have zero faith he will do the series justice either. Can't be any worse than Bloober though.
Kojima cannot make a Silent Hill. He just doesn't get the aesthetic.
He will make a mishmash with concepts he steals from a couple horror movies and insert himself in it as Le Pyramid Creatividad.
The big reveal is that the Otherworld Phenomenon is now public knowledge and world events such as COVID-19 are causing the Fog, now deemed the "Silent Hill Effect", to spread to locations around the globe. Basically this game's story was a glorified excuse to explain why F will be set in Japan instead of rural America.
The cult version of the Otherworld with all the rust and blood seems to still be unknown to the public though.
If the shitty movie never became mainstream do you think konami would have at least killed it and left the corpse in peace or would they have tried banking on it as an IP again at some point either way?
I'm saying would those flops have even existed without the film? They killed Team Silent after SH4 and I feel like they were intent on keeping SH dead as it wasn't enough of a big seller to them. After SH became a huge hit on dvd only then did they start trying to market it as a major IP. I'm convinced the film is the worst thing to happen to the series second only to being owned by Konami.
>I'm saying would those flops have even existed without the film?
Yes probably? Konami is clearly content with whoring out their IPs otherwise they clearly they would've stopped after the fourth spinoff failed long after the movie was successful.
Silent Hill is split generally into two camps: people who prefer Silent Hill 1/3 and people who prefer Silent Hill 2. The former deal more with the actual setting itself, the cult shit, the who/what/when/where/why of the town of Silent Hill (in this case through the Mason family). The latter, however, prefer SH2's near-complete detachment from the other games as a mysterious place of personal punishment and purgatory. Unfortunately, SH devs have never been able to choose between these either so every Silent Hill game since 3 has been either terrible, somewhat passable at best, or decent but runs like dogshit like Downpour.
Until someone actually decides a direction to take this series, preferably a new direction, Silent Hill will continue to suck dick.
>Shooting a zombie dog in Resident Evil
Hell yeah!!!! >Shooting a zombie dog in Silent Hill
This is shit gameplay..... for some reason I wont explain.....
kek this thing is out? I thought it was canceled
Yeah, it's really bad too. Not scary in the slightest and it's about teenage social media bullying. Also Silent Hill in this game came from Covid (I'm not kidding).
>Silent Hill in this game came from Covid
goodness sh has become a dumping ground for shit videogames
>Naming covid cultists being suicidal after a town with a drug problem
This doesn't seem like a good idea
This could work as a concept but they had to slap Silent Hill on it for sales. Pretty gay
>Dr. XXX at XXX University
sound like a porn title or some alcoholic, but certainly not someone trustworthy
I think I can see where they wanted to go with this, but ended up botching the delivery. We know that the fog world can be accessed by psychics, brought forth via ritual, and people with only the thinnest of latent ability can still slip between the cracks when experiencing extreme emotional distress. Queue the coof, the worldwide mass hysteria that went with it, and the feelings of isolation that grew and ate into people because they were afraid of getting the disease. Call it a ripe situation for a shitload of people to be stepping onto the threshold all at once.
That could work as an explanation for sure but the game was really lackluster.
There's no hope for this franchise anymore
Just let it die already
Jesus. Not only does this date the game horribly and makes it set in our world but it also tries to ape Resident Evil in the worst possible way. Viruses do not belong in Silent Hill.
Anon, you do know that SH1 is really about a guy fighting against a drug cartel?
why is Ganker full of morons who blatantly misinterpret these stories even when they're not that complex? the drug cartel shit was a 20 minute side quest, not the full game. SH1 and 3 are about the cult, not the drug cartel that funds their operations.
doesn't the cult themselves traffic PTV?
Why is everyone on Ganker afraid of games being dated?
>That DAMNED disease does not belong in Silent Hill
Ok James
I don't think Silent Hill is now a virus, they were trying to say SH is now a state of mental illness before you commit sudoku.
>Dr. XXX
>XXX University
They couldn't even invent a fricking name?
How is that difficult???
Wtf is that lazy af writing I swear...
Not to mention protagonists from the same franchise 20 years ago looked more charismatic.
>They couldn't even invent a fricking name?
Blame the Japanese and their "A certain organization" grammar where they can write sentences that don't have a subject.
I'm honestly more annoyed that both are named XXX, I would have been fine with Doctor X from Y University
That's extremely common in Japanese media. They do the same thing with dates and license, phone numbers, and pretty much everything of the sort to create a sense of mystery and prevent accidentally naming it after something real.
They just keep finding new and inventive ways to rape this series.
>suicide rate increased because of covid
lol
lmao
Normies can't handle the neet life.
Covid proved that hard.
LOREgayS WON
>The Silent Hill Phenomenon
I hate the japanese more than anyone could possibly imagine.
>Dr. XXX
Honestly, the response to covid that was forced on us has done a lot of harm to a lot of children's mental health.
Oh for sure, and it could be an excellent foundation for some great horror content. This is just a really fricking stupidly written is all.
we might get a Howard Hughes out of it though!
totally, but the alternative was letting hospitals collapse due to covid patients and pneumonia
there was no winning move to be frank
Nobody had to go to the hospital for covid other than geriatrics
>forced to live in this society
>just suffer pushing through, enduring the best I can
>normalgays lives a year in my reality
>shit, piss and kill themselves
Best thing to have ever happened, shit was cathartic
I really dont even know what normalgays were doing.
Yeah "Covid Sucked tm" for me, because I had to work 6 days a week because no one else would, but nothing other than that.
Yeah it was the response to a disease that killed millions, not the disease that killed millions.
I swear to christ you homosexuals have just made up a completely different history of what happened.
If anything the LACK of a strong response was the problem. It destroyed whatever little faith was left in public institutions.
>Yeah it was the response to a disease that killed millions, not the disease that killed millions.
That has nothing to do with the post that you responded to.
A disease killing millions of geriatrics doesn't mean you need to destroy the lives of everyone in existence.
>cant go to the movies
>life destroyed
the absolute state of the normalgays
>a flu that kills obese 70yo? QUICK, THREATEN EVERYONE NOT TAKING OUR SKETCHY MRNA SHOT AND JAB CHILDREN WHO ARE NOT IN DANGER WITH IT
I wish I could slice your throat you golem
>THREATEN
you are mentally ill
People were literally arrested for not wanting to take it
Bootlicking history revisionist scum like you are why things dont get better
have a nice day
>I swear to christ you homosexuals have just made up a completely different history of what happened.
>Normalgays who don't even know how to wash their hands try to be more hygienic
>Somehow this is bad
???
Unless you're Chinese nobody was forcing you to partake in this behavior
>clearly shows UK and aussie lockdowns
>Unless you're Chinese nobody was forcing you to partake in this behavior
>I swear to christ you homosexuals have just made up a completely different history of what happened.
>clips from American and Brazilian cities = clearly showing UK & Aussies
Huh?
>Also Silent Hill in this game came from Covid (I'm not kidding).
What the frick are you talking about?
Read the thread bra
why you shitpostan in a thread you didn't read over a game you didn't play?
It didnt come from covid. can you esl Black folk read english? it just accelerated people’s issues and drove people to the otherworld
It's free on PS5 but don't bother downloading it
They knew this game was horse shit. That is why they dumped it out without much of a peep.
This was a vanity project for some rich guys kid.
>This was a vanity project for some rich guys kid.
It's literally directed by the guy who controls the entire Silent Hill franchise. It's like saying Ground Zeroes is a vanity project. (It was.)
I'm sure they lost their will to work hard looking at that face
She looks like that Chris chan troll.
Why does that b***h look triracial, isn't she supposed to be jap?
No, it takes place in Germany. Don't ask why because I don't know.
>japs
With that design and game, it’s westaboos
Ito did the design
MARY
WHERE THE FRICK ARE YOU
Just spoil me: what's the twist? Is she dead? Is her asian lesbian friend also dead? Is this all just purgatory like Dante's Inferno?
She had a shitty mother that neglected her and her brother to the point the brother died from starvation.
She is basically a loner that befriended a depressed artist, only go indirectly cause her suicide because she was jealous she was more close to another friend of her (woman moment).
Than she feels guilty for this, getting chased by an weird looking entity shattered memories style.
It end with the protagonist realizing what she has done, but before suiciding herself by jumping from the building, she get an sms from that one alive friend of her that ask her for go togheter shopping.... So she realizes someone cares for her and decide to not jump (happy boring ending).
Silent hill here is just a psicological effect (but is real and actual magic) some teens experiences when guilty of something....
Basically a generic teen drama with the monster being the trauma with the name Silent hill slapped on it.
Also the gameplay is a cheap reash of PT.
can anyone deESLfy this for me?
Mutt woman bad, friend chin chong good, mutt woman did nothing wrong in the end, end
How hard is it to just make a game IN SILENT HILL? I don’t understand the obsession with making it a phenomena that happens globally. Just get back to the basics with the cult.
Aliens blew it up.
they look like downvotes to you
Underrated.
Haha holy shit
>albeit limited to a single creature
what the frick were they thinking
aren't the chase sequences literally run around and grab items and you're done? how did the journo get filtered?
The last One is like that and it can be a bit tricky of you don'tget the "mechanic" and you have to redo all over again if you die,the others are just running trying to find the exit,just like Shattered Memories.
>Dialogue is so on-the-nose that it feels allergic to subtlety
fricking NUCLEAR
>Dialogue is so on-the-nose that is feels allergic to subtlety
Yamaoka worked on this? Jesus. At least I can give the ost a try and forget about the game.
I only listened to the menu track and it was alright. I wonder if he'll work on F.
Honestly, I have high hopes for F since it seems to have strong Japanese roots and is taking the concept in a unique direction that isn't stupid, teen drama bullshit like this game.
> is taking the concept in a unique direction that isn't stupid, teen drama bullshit like this game
> Trailer for f shows a teen running away from red rape tentacles and looking over some friend's grave.
It's probably the same shit, only more animu.
Yeah, but the story is based in Japan and because of that, will likely have a far more mature approach to the concept. Especially if it is a story dealing with loss and is written by Ryukishi. I trust him to do this story right because he has people to reign him in and his previous works show a good track record when dealing with similar themes. Silent Hill F gives me strong Higurashi and Higanbana vibes especially, which is good because Higanbana is one of his most passionate, yet underrated works.
>because he has people to reign him in
This is really the key point. If R07 has a team who are willing to stand up to him it could be good. If he gets free reign it will turn out garbage just like everything Higurashi related in the past decade.
I hope there a DBZ scene where are MC fights the final boss in sky combat shooting kamehameha's.
>Old DBZ fight scene bad
>New DBZ fight scene good
>will likely have a far more mature approach to the concept
07 is a fricking hack lol, dude is stuck in his old japanese village sandpit in between inserting terrible dragonball z action sequences and memberberry shit
>reducing an entire story down to one short scene at the very end
Sh2 is fricking shit lol, fighting a floating bed what is this Guilty Gear nonsense
But the Youtubers said it was le good!
>But the Youtubers said it was le good!
literally nobody said it was good
Bruh every video I've seen on it says it's good.
Which ones?
I've watched 10 videos and the only person to even somewhat I like it was Voidburger. And she was wishy washy on liking it and even her buttbuddy Bobsvids hated it.
she basically said that yeah the game is hammy and dumb but they did try and there is empathy to it
The morality side people like PatStaresAt have been bringing up she didn't really comment on, other than basically saying the main character is an idiot but that's excusable because she's 15
I don't really trust Pat though, literally every time I've seen him say anything on any subject it's been groan-inducing and moronic so... he also seems to be doing the poor media literacy thing where he's saying a story depicting something means it approves of that thing
> he's saying a story depicting something means it approves of that thing
to be fair the game really hammers in your head about how suicide is a beautiful thing through Maya and some notes
That's just typical Jap culture. They're been doing honorable suicide for the last 1000 years.
I just get a really cringe feeling out of watching all these 30+ year old motherfrickers break down and psychoanalyze such a horribly shallow story because they can't let go of Silent Hill and need it to be this deep, important pillar of video games
This series hasn't been worth talking about for 20 fricking years, everyone has moved on, why couldn't they just let it die
I'm of this mindset as well, we got three GREAT games and a bunch of mid to bad ones, culminating in the second worst portable dungeon crawler of all time in 2012, and I thought that was it. Thank God it's over.
But it wasn't. And thr narrative is "SH fans" should be "thankful" the "franchise tm" is getting another shot.
No.
"Why should I?"
I dont understand this pathological need for anything with a sequel to continue forever.
this youtuber i follower who lookss like the bald Soijak with his mouth opened meme played it and he was extremely dissapointed with it
pipero
I can't believe I'm agreeing with GameSpot, but I'm with them on every point except the monster design. I thought it looked like those tall monsters from SH3, just with cherry blossoms all over it.
>Chase sequences that feels frustratingly trial-and-error
Skill issue. I managed to beat all of them on the first try, and it was not even that hard. Also, some horror games have a mechanic that when you die and retry the same section, it will be now easier, to help you to not get stuck i guess. This game does not have that, i bet that the reviewer got stuck in the last chase sequence, dying over and over, he got filtered and came up with this bullshit about trial-and-error LMAO
The only hard chase sequence is the final one and it mostly just depends on how quickly you can figure out what you're supposed to do. I can't believe game reviewers are so shit they are losing at linear haunted house games designed for fricking zoomers lmao
>game set in germany
>you play as some brown mutt
>theme is "internet bullying"
>silent hill came from covid
>jump scare walking simulator
i hate every single thing about this
>1800s German village's center of commerce is driven by a single Japanese witch
came here to ask what the frick they were smoking when they came up with that shit. probably just ai generated honestly
>German economy was doing good in the 30s, then was completely fricked up by 1947
What could have happened??? Must have been a witch!
whut?
Arent Germans brown tho.
you clearly didnt play it dumb homosexual
watched a play-through on israelitetube, checked out in the first 2 minutes.
don't even know the story but listening to a whiny teen doing that "shivering girly" voice for 2 hours would just drives me up the fricking wall.
Townfall is what i'm most excited about after hearing it's the same studio that made Stories Untold. Very much enjoyed that game.
Townfall looked to be the only real serious sh project shown recently. I just hope it’s not filled with Black folk and other gay shit.
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why did ps1 games have combat and like 20 different enemy types with unique animations but modern horror games have 1 enemy chasing you with no combat
why do normalgays treat Silent Hill like some kind of sacred cow?
2 is only talked about because of le twist ending and 3 is a decent game overall. that's it. the franchise as a whole is absolute garbage.
>why do normalgays treat Silent Hill like some kind of sacred cow?
because most of them are pajeets
because they saw the hollywood movies and saw how spooky pyramid head was. i don't think there's really anything konami can do to bring the series back without a major change in management. a lot of the old developers that were in their prime in the 90s don't really have any good ideas anymore. The longer you stay in game dev the more you become irrelevant it seems.
Isn't Silent Hill f the real litmus test?
Then again, with how shit these other projects have been, maybe f won't even matter even if it's somehow excellent.
>you have to be Indian to like atmospheric horror
I've seen some really moronic takes on Ganker but this is next level
It was good though, and better than any of the other SH shit.
There's a reason why silent hill essentially ended after 3. The Japanese basically did everything they wanted to with the series. Everybody in charge of silent hill these days is so out of touch with what made the trilogy so good to begin with. They are clearly making it for a younger demographic but it just comes off more like a parody of silent hill than an authentic physiological horror story.
4 had some good ideas. PT was mostly inspired by 4
she looks like Mia Khalifa, no one would bully her irl.
Ew
reminder that youre not the target audience
There is no target audience because nobody likes this garbage
>23 years old guy
If I'm not the main audience.... Than who is?
Yeah, nobody will buy it
Now go catch another flavor of the month bait
When I was in highschool I got bullied pretty hard, I almost lost an eye because a homosexual tought it was funny throwing chemicals at me during chemistry lab. This game is shit
and youre female?
Too bad you wouldn't die
I don't think there is a target audience
The target audience for media like this DOES NOT PLAY VIDEO GAMES. That's why shit like this never works.
I don't think the leftovers at Konami are that talented, but I do think Sony contracted them to make this game so they called all the shots like the protag must be an ugly mutt.
>girl was bullied into depression and suicide attempts
>she was never called anything worse than bully/coward/liar/bawd
it feels like this was a T rated game except for the gore
I like that the final chase is filtering people.
I mean it is complete trash and clearly designed by a hard but you can just loop the monster.
how long is this shit? I played for 30 minutes and I'm thinking of dropping it, but if it's like 2 hours total I might finish it
So half of those new SH super projects were shitty apps that flopped on launch day.
Also SH2 remake looks like an action third person Resident evil, ruining the concept and soul of the series...nice
Is there any hope for Silent Hill f?
the hope was that this franchise would die peacefully, but now that hope is dead and gone
>Ryukishi
>chink studio
It was over before it even began
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe R07 ever wrote a "normal" game before. He has only ever did VNs. I'm curious to see how he handles it.
hey Rose Guns Days had very intense clicking gameplay
it will bring waves of braindead coomer weeb rats into SH fanbase
but at least it would be funny to see them clashing with the twitter/reddit posers over the sexualization of minor girls in SH
>trying to gatekeep silent hill
everyone knows about silent hill. yes even coomer weebs on twitter
I'm going to assume Rugal is broken?
A Mexican governor made it illegal to pick him. Not joking.
What the frick
>Also SH2 remake looks like an action third person Resident evil, ruining the concept and soul of the series...nice
Silent Hill was always Konami's store brand Resident Evil knockoff so it's perfectly fitting that they're still trying and failing to copy it.
Not many zoomers can grasp how to move a character with tank controls, so it's the best bet they got. Besides RE2/4 Remake sales are a good incentive to copy this camera.
Silent Hill only forced tank controls in the first game. The rest had directional controls as an option.
>Developed by HexaDrive
>whose last original game was the 3rd birthday
no wonder its shit
>Contracted to make the Chris DLC for RE7
>Capcom found it so irredeemably bad they decided to spend more money to just redo it from scratch themselves
if you thought that was fun wait until you play Silent Hill F developed by the world renowned NEOBARDS known for classics such as REverse
that's their last silent hill project, right?
so far, every single one was a disaster
>that's their last silent hill project, right?
Nope it doesn't end there. We also still haven't seen much of Silent Hill townfall.
isn't townfall being published by annapurna? sounds like the most promising project of the whole thing if you ask me
annapurna is woke as frick. we already know townfall has a black protag
Hey, the developer for f did the Megaman Battle Network Collection. So they at least CAN do good work.
handling an emulation collection doesn't really indicate how well they would do with an original game.
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume REverse was on a shoestring budget
Is even a single one of these Silent Hill projects Japanese developed??
Really? Any details on how bad it was before it had to be remade?
Why is Konami picking such shit studios for their flagship horror IP? Are they really that cheap?
they're throwing enough shit at the wall hoping something sticks. It won't.
Don't get me started on Parasite Eve.
so why is Silent Hill of all franchises suddenly this designated whipping boy for the shittest vaguely-horror-related concepts that dinosaurs in business suits can think up of?
First it was Ascension and trying to sell you a "legendary sticker" of "it's TRAUMA!" for $15 alongside some kind of "interactive community CYOA" that doesn't even work anywhere as intended and now we have Short Message which is about "cyberbullying"
What's next, a Silent Hill where the game is a collab with Raid shadow legends?
I think the recent REmakes have made konami want to try their luck with something similar, but the problem is they're just throwing the same old shit against the wall and using the SH name in hopes it'll be the glue to make it stick.
>suddenly
Did you forget the lightgun arcade game and dungeon crawler?
Silent Hill Arcade is frickin dope dude
t. bought a Sinden Lightgun and spent hours getting it working on my PC
Book Of Memories was a proper video game compared to this shit
yeah? you played it did you?
>it's a silent hill game about fricking HIGHSCHOOL TEENAGE GIRLS being suicidal over namecalling and likes on social media
Are the people making these games and the zooms they're trying to pander to seriously this devoid of real life problems, adversities and struggles that we're getting big name horror games about "cyberbullying" now? Jesus frick. We're gonna need another world war for videogames, TV, movies and books for to get good again.
there is a growing number of adults that are so sheltered that just trying to order food from a menu that has more than one page is overwhelming.
How would you make a GOOD Silent Hill game, Ganker?
Just make Silent Hill 1/2/3 again but with different characters and have them go in different buildings than we saw in the first 3
You need to keep tank controls, going the RE2 remake route like (SH2 remake is) will suck any suspense and horror right out and make it an action game
Don't make it a shitty Outlast clone where the 'gameplay' is just managing batteries and walking through areas until a monster jumps out and you just run away
The original games were action games too
>boss fights
>grenade launchers
>rocket launchers
Survival horror have always been action games. When will Ganker posers learn this? I guess when they actually play the fricking games which is never
If you fail to see the differences between SH and even classic RE's approach to gameplay and combat then you're far too low IQ to be discussing anything, that is if you've even played either before and not just a zoomer who formed their opinions from e-celebs and let's plays.
Yes and survival horror have always been action focused you fricking morons. They've always been action games. A game doesn't become an action game just because it has a higher number of enemies on screen. Did you know that Rythm games are action games too? Platfomers? Action simply means the game relies on the player's reflexes and skills to complete its tasks. RE4/RE2R is just as much a survival horror as every game preceding it because it still plays clunky with a limited FOV and ammo conservation.
You fundamentally don't understand what survival horror even is yet you love to proclaim yourselves experts on it. If you homosexuals are still here answer me this: what is survival horror?
probably MY FAT wiener IN YOUR butthole
Yeah that's what I thought you fricking poser homosexual.
SEETHE
>Yes and survival horror have always been action focused you fricking morons.
having elements of action and being an action game are two different things.
>RE4/RE2R is just as much a survival horror as every game preceding it
>When will Ganker posers learn this? I guess when they actually play the fricking games which is never
lol
You aren't actually addressing any of my points. Tell me what isn't action about any of the stuff I just mentioned that's been a part of the RE games since the beginning? It's not just "elements of action" because it's a video game, not a movie. You're thinking that "action" means Michael Bay explosions because you're looking at it through a cinematic lens. That's not how this works for video games which is an interactive medium. RE4/RE2R has more in common with the classic RE games than something like F.E.A.R. which is an actual full blown shooter. Further, you use action and action-adventure interchangeably which aren't mutually exclusive.
>You aren't actually addressing any of my points.
because they're fricking stupid, anon.
I'm not the one who can't grasp the concept of a video game genre.
>I'm not the one who can't grasp the concept of a video game genre.
>The original games were action games too
Yes, exactly. Glad you're agreeing with me.
lol
What is survival horror?
they're action games, but at night.
God shut the frick up you dumbass gay
What is survival horror? Why can't you answer this question? Are you too stupid to articulate your thoughts?
this moron really dying on technicality hill over here
>Survival horror have always been action games. When will Ganker posers learn this?
no, RE was always survival horror with some action packed moments until 4 when it started swinging the other way around and then we had 6 which was an action game in a RE setting.
also
>boss fights make it an action game
lol
>Silent Hill has guns so it's just like Resident Evil
So this is the audience the SH2 remake is being made for.
can't wait for them to have the nurses and enemies randomly spawn in rooms and hallways so you can never fully clear areas.
Can you just do me a favor and leave the hobby as a whole?
Thanks in advance.
Probably take a cue from Disco Elysium and make it about an addict struggling with his demons. I'd also set it in daylight since Team Silent was going to do that with Silent Hill 5 before they were disbanded. Then I'd force my writers to watch True Detective and learn basic subtlety.
was the writer really japanese? i dont even a single video about that shit since it looks only like "for westerners" trash. it cant be good obviously.
the real sh would be that higurashi hill set in japan. ill buy it.
Why are you surprised by this? We already saw the leaks a year ago
Wait this shit came out? Holy frick
It looks kind of bad and nothing I expected from the trailer years ago.
Silent hill just needs to stay dead, they're trying to give it the re7 re2r treatment but none of it works.
Was Covid really this horrible traumatic experience for normies or something? My life literally didn’t change, still stayed in my room neeting it up with games. People who need face-to-face social interaction to survive are so pathetic.
no, but if we pretend the vast majority of people were horribly affected by it then that might make some people look a little silly.
Nope. Still seething I couldn't have a proper party for the end of my maturity exam tho.
covid was a speeding up of the descent of western society into mass hysteria that showed that you can literally make people believe anything if you just scream it loud enough on the television and in articles, the lunacy of that time is something everybody wants to move past but shouldn't, all of it needs to be adressed
My life might be better off because of Covid. And apparently it traumatized normies and they consider it one of the worst historical events they've had to live through.
>Covid landed me a job
Sounds like a lot of people had skill issues.
Covid causing us to work remotely, instead of commuting, and still doing it because is more convenient for everyone is the best shit ever.
That and Gen Z's social skills are worse than ever.
Of course not. Covid came and went like nothing ever happened.
It's still killing loads of people, all that's changed is no-one cares anymore.
>not one post mentions minger
this place truly is 99% nugays
Shani louk was a german
how is she even uglier than in the leaked stuff
Probably for esg reasons.
did anyone think minger's game was really going to be good though?
Here's your Silent Hill protagonist, bro.
Would. Shame about her feet though.
do i want to know?
Lmao it really is that same "I like to torture cats" phenotype. They all look like that
Empty shark like eyes. A slight grin.
I never understood the hate she got for helping lock up a mother fricker like Chris Chan.
Chris Chan is an icon
she and her friends literally convinced him to do it. also she tortured animals and was as revolting as a homeless dude
DAMN THAT'S A UGLY b***h
She’s cute though.
No she isn't frick you ugly mutt.
You know, shit like this makes me really worried about the future of media as a whole. I feel like the old guard that used to deliver the good stuff is slowly wintering away or losing it's edge while a bunch of new comers are just ruining their legacy while also not delivering any new that is also good.
I am sure we still get good things every now and then but during my teenage to college years it used to be banger after banger. Maybe there a tad of nostalgia there but that is how i feel about it.
There are some dropped plot points.
Like the boy the japanese girl was interested in that got taken away?
Amelie and her brother....and some version of her dies in the fog world.
I wasn't expecting this honestly, after the Ascension debacle I had zero expectations. The game was good, clearly made by japanese people.
How did they even get the budget for this + that live show abortions?
Literally ANYONE could predict they would bomb hard.
Even the pachinko versions probably had more thought put into them.
SH should be about the town and the cult...but you gays dick ride SH2 soo hard that it become this shitty ´´Its trauma!`` crap.
>...but you gays dick ride SH2 soo hard that it become this shitty ´´Its trauma!`` crap.
>can't even remake a 20 yr old game without royally fricking it up
tomm, is that you?
Tomm was another gay obsessed with muh trauma crap the frick you are smocking dumbass?
SH4 have a good idea to expand the cult land town lore too bad the repetition kinda ruins the game
tomm also claimed to be a huge fan of 2 while also shittalking it constantly; that's pretty much par for the course with remakes.
SH2 was the weakest out of 1-3 because it didn't capture the atmosphere of 1, the horror aspect was much more passive than 3, and the puzzles were worse than both games.
SH4 is just a good premise wrapped up in joke,
>tomm also claimed to be a huge fan of 2 while also shittalking it constantly;
I don't see the problem there. SH2 is a fricking dogshit videogame with a decent story. Being in denial of that doesn't make you a fan. It makes you a moron.
>I don't see the problem there. SH2 is a fricking dogshit videogame with a decent story.
you don't see a problem with hating a video game for being a video game, but like the story so you're trying to change other people's opinion on the game.
the one you didn't like except for the wiki plot summary you read.
I legit thought she was that forspoken girl but modded with glasses
What's interesting is that The Short Message is directed by Motoi Okamoto, who is the producer in charge of the entire Silent Hill franchise. So The Short Message is very much the foundation for the future of the franchise, and his particular interpretation of it.
I haven't seen a lot of people talking about who made this game, and it's role within the larger series. (It is a teaser for Silent Hill 5, whatever that is. Maybe it's SH f, maybe it's the SH game that the internal SH team is making, who knows.)
>femoid trauma dumping: the game
here a decent video about it:
>game has four fricking suicide warning
>game has four fricking suicide warning
Are people just that weak willed now that a game needs to lay down multiple times that it is about suicide and that people shouldn't kill themselves?
people donate money to streamers to remind them to drink some water and act like they just helped someone move.
>literally makes the worst silent hill canon
How?
Finally someone who isn't a contrarian and can see that this game isn't actually some underappreciated gem. It's literally a walking sim "psychological horror" like every Bloober game made post-PT
>mfw Silent Hill too blue
SIRS! PLEASE!
>makes the worst silent hill canon
But that's not downpour
Shattered Memories didn't had combat making it shit.
>Liking the combat in any Silent Hill ever
lol
This game could have worked without Silent Hill slapped on it.
That's not Homecoming.
Homecoming was great. Book of memories, is the worst.
the monster is pretty cool
>literally flower head
Always love me some bare legs. Shame they're getting increasingly rare these days.
It's just a tall teenager with flowers for a head, not scary at all. Ito lost his touch with this one.
Ugh, it's just a woman with bandages on her face, not scary at all. Silent Hill has fallen.
it's really not thoughbeit
would
nice knees
I get trying to appeal to a younger crowd with the cyberbullying slop, but why exactly did they make the protagonist some goblina? Do people look at her and think "Yep, this is who horror game enthusiasts would identify with and want to play as"?
Is this that silent hill tv show you watch on twitch?
Bully and how technology contributes to it has always been a popular theme in Japanese media.
Bullying*
Black person fatigue is real.
I never was a fan of silent hill really, I played them but they were never great to me and even I can see how israeliteed this franchise is getting, this is bad.
Konami hires Motoi Okamoto as the lead producer for the Silent Hill -series in 2019.
Konami's idea is to give the Silent Hill IP to multiple different parties to create their own version of the series for the relaunch of the franchise.
There are also staff internally at Konami, who love Silent Hill and horror games in general, so Konami starts their own Silent Hill -project
Because it has been 20 years since The Room or any horror game in general at Konami, they decide to start with a smaller scale project to see if they can create a horror title and then with the experience from this project, start working towards a fuller title
They wanted to partner with a developer from Japan, who have experience on working with horror games, to work on the project, so they went with HEXADRIVE, who had already pitched their version of Silent Hill 2 Remake to Konami earlier (also Konami had offered them to port earlier titles, but HEXADRIVE wants to create a new title for current generation consoles).
Okamoto/Konami has the idea/scenario for The Short Message and they hire Kiichi Kanoh to flesh it out. Also Masahiro Ito is hired to create the monster design and Akira Yamaoka as the composer/sound director.
The work for The Short Message happened between 2020-2022 (the developer interviews were done in September-December 2022 and the game had finished by then), but due to reasons such as COVID, the release didn't happen until 2024.
i dont know about any of those except for yamaoka. sh is the product of the auteur of toyama. its basically his work. without toyama, nobody can make any decent sh game. the dude is such a talented man but the higurashi hill will be probably a much better spin off than that and as interesting as sh3 which wasnt toyomas work.
There were 3 good/great sh games without Toyama
I miss when seeing Akira Yamaoka involved gave me some hope but then countless fans blew so much smoke up his ass and his contributions got so inflated that he's become massively overrated. His music in 2 was great but in the other games it ranges from serviceable to forgettable for the most part.
Can someone please tell me why they felt the need to make a Silent Hill-themed teen suicide PSA. Why not just make a normal game
Silent Hill 2 is LITERALLY about that and you gays love it. Yes, the In Water ending is canon.
Please try harder next time
Time to grow up.
no it's not. James was an adult that was fricked up over serious shit and not some emo social media dislikes.
*leans forward*
Wrong
I just remembered that the Silent Hill: Ascension web show slop was still going. I can't believe they're still people watching.
I like the massege though. Single mothers are the scourge of the earth.
>Wholesale ripped off SWERY's the missing
Vindication. The plagerizer has become the plagiarized
Shattered Memories did teen issues better than this goyslop.
Even the japs only ever made 2 good Silent Hills.
Eileen shaving
>Written by the guy who wrote the Higurashi console arcs
07thsissies....
they should just adapt any Shion story to Silent Hill, would be great
But Shion is literally worse girl.
Her story is pretty great though.
You know there is a pretty good chance that F might start out really cool and promising and then just become generic sappy bullshit like this game
seeing Ganker pull out the emergency copium at higurashi jumping the shark was somethin else
Frankly I cannot wait for 07 and his console lackey to be absolutely fricking exposed by an actual video game fanbase instead of hiding behind "it's just a shitty VN/gacha/side manga!" and only people into it were watching Gou/Sotsu.
Also wtf is this
I know it was by the console arcs guy but didn't he say he delayed Ciconia Phase 2 because he didn't want to bring up covid?
I do kinda like what Konami is trying to do with the SH effect so it can take place in other areas around the world. Setting the game in the same town or just shitty crapshoots around it really doesn't work too well after the first 3 games and becomes more contrived. But the way they handled it is dumb and I don't have any hopes F will explain it well but I'm buying it anyways because it's set in Japan and I'm a weeb.
Is there anywhere to watch the full story so far or anything like "recaps" of it? I want to see how shit it is
That pic fricking rules
>worst girl
there is no worst girl, all Higus are perfect. Especially pic related
Before release I was interested in the flower/sticky note theme and was wondering how they'd integrate that into the otherworld. After watching a playthrough, it's apparent they didn't even try and just fell back on the usual rust, grates and blood.
Overall though I didn't hate it. The music was good as expected and the monster was interesting enough. I liked how the cellphone was integrated. The story is another SH2 clone but I didn't expect anything different from Konami in 2024. I think it could've used more horrific imagery and if they're ripping off PT then they should have obfuscated how you get the real ending. I feel like the original plan was your character would keep killing herself until you figured something out but that fell by the wayside and it became a much more linear experience. I'd give it like a 5/10.
Where’s my homie Henry at
Fricking Eileen
Where’s Eileen
With Henry
Where’s my homie Henry at?
With Eileen
But where the FRICK is EILEEN?
With Henry
YES I KNOW SHES WITH HENRY BUT WHERE ARE THEY
idk
Then how do you know Henry is with Eileen?
Because he's fricking her.
Shaving
Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree SH4 was an underrated masterpiece?
It's no masterpiece but it is a solid game.
It's unique and the apartment is my favorite location in the serie. Last time silent hill was truly scary.
Nah it sucks. The only good parts are inside the apartment, which should be the case, but it is.
It has a lot of problems, but it was the last Silent Hill.
This is going to be the best of the nu-Silent Hill titles. I can feel it.
This is a prime example of why "write what you know" is so important. The director is an old Japanese man, so him writing an western zoomer getting bullied on social media comes off as laughable. This is why Silent Hill 4 worked. The creator clearly did understand how it felt to be trapped in an apartment. It unironically would have been far better to rehash 4 with covid shit.
all of this shit can be blamed on Reddit Hill 2 posers for their revisionism of Silent Hill into ''Le therapist magical town!''
At this point I don't even know how organic it is, it's clear that they unironically want to create a Silent Hill Cinematic Universe based around generic therapist town one shot stories.
are there any rule 34 of the girl though? i have a thing for brown women
begone coomer swine
>Lesbo Hills
LOL, LMAO, ROFLMAO EVEN!
Dyke Hill
i always knew one of these new SH projects will have homosexualry pandering in them but i thought it would be done by weternid i did not expect it to be done by a japanese studio
Silent Hill was always about the west as perceived by the Japanese. In this case instead of Hollywood movies as inspiration they are using zoomer social media posts. AKA, they're idiots.
the old games had that Japanese touch to them like the J-horor elements (especially in SH4) but there is non of that in Shit Message, i literally tought it was made by a Califronian studio or some shit until i saw the names in the credits
ngl it's impressive in a negative way seeing japanese studio managing to create their own goyslop undistinguishable from it's western goyslops
Like it or not your 'goyslop' outsells quality products so it's all you're gonna get from here on out.
ASScnesion flopped so hard
Shit Message is also flopping and even critics are shitting on it
Troonfall will also flop because
Silent Hill homosexualry will flop because the majority of SH gays don't care about weeb shit
the remake will probably sell well and e-celebs will shill it but after some time passes it will get forgotten and by the time Bloober released their Born From A Wish paid DLC no one would be hyped for it anymore
>the majority of SH gays hate Japs
Konami did nothing wrong by giving the franchise to western devs like Boober. Apologize.
>Bloober
>western
Poolish games are western as much as Mount&Blade is
Tom was a bit of a dick but we give him too much shit for SH Collection, even Konami has scrapped their final builds. They don't give a shit. Don't give Shitnami attention. Go play the old games with enhanced mods.
Unironically Japanese woke is still "subtle" compared the US one.
If this game was made from amerimutts, the protagonist would've been 100% explicit dike, and the themes would've also involved sexism, bigottism, fascism and racism somehow.
There would have been AfD zoomers telling her to go back to Turkey and heiling Hitler on Tik Tok
Anita iss a Pajeeta
it's an Indo-Aryan name
man, they are pushing dyke shit really fricking hard recently
when you're an adult with more media literacy you'll realize japanese, and chinese for that matter, media has had a focus on female friendships+ for millenniums
NTA but dykes were always more common than gays in tranime and manga but they were rare in vidya until the 7th generation
take for example Dragon's Dogma a certified LGBT game /vpol/ gives a pass
My idea for silent hill one off, the mc is a gamer trapped in a town fillled with spooky brats trying to stab him.
Bros... we might be getting too old for this shit...
SH2 really do be like that
Someone unironically is going to make a video like that and Ganker will be on fire
>What's up Silent Squad, it's ya boy JamesOfDaHillHD and today I've got something super special for you guys and I'm honestly really excited about this, but first... a word from our sponsors-
>[5 minutes of unfunny "shitpost" advertisement for some mobile game or subscribtion service later]
>ANYWAY! Let us get right into the topic of today's video. As you may know, I've recently received a letter from what seems to be my wife, who you may know as MaryDeets441... rest in peace. It seems like she actually... hang on... *paper rustling* sent me some kind of letter, so let me just...
>*clears throat*
>A-HEM! Okay, uh... ""In my restless dreams"... yeah, she sure had a lot of restless nights with me if you know what I'm saying, hehehe... okay, sorry.
>"I see that town. Silent Hill." Wow thats crazy, I actually wanted to make a vlog there...
>"You promised me you'd take me there again someday. But you never did." Wow, even after death? Come on gurl, chill out... geez... okay okay, I'll shut up now.
>"Well, I'm alone there now... In our 'special place'... Waiting for you..."
>LOOKS AT CAMERA
>VINE BOOM.MP3
>DESK SLAM
>GUYS
>WHO WHOA WHOA
>GAPING FACE.PNG
>DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT MEANS???
>WE'RE GOING TO SILENT HILL BABEEEEE!
>THAT'S RIGHT, I'M GONNA TAKE YOU GUYS THERE WITH ME
>YOU'RE HEARING IT FROM ME RIGHT NOW, NEXT VIDEO IS GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE LONGER BUT ITS GONNA BE AN
>EPIC
>SPINE-CHILLING
>EXCLUSSIVE
>VLOG FROM MY TRIP TO SILENT HILL!!! WOOOOOO! GUYS I ALREADY CAN'T WAIT TO GET HERE!
>MAKE SURE TO SMASH LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE IF YOU'RE AS HYPED AS I AM, AND I'LL SEE YOU GUYS... NEXT TIME!!!
>outro
Leave is canon, James overcomes his anguish and fulfills Mary's wishes.
Games are made for consumers, not gamers.
Gay blog post ahead.
If I was involved in making a SH game, I would
>Make it about a city that's based on Tokyo but is set in America.
Make it a soulless drone town.
>The plot is about a town learning to become a tightly knit community. About how disconnected citizens are from each other, even though they all live so close together - how people ignore issues and are eager to demonize each other - tie it to Alessa's death. Alienation; being overworked; collapsing on the street etc.
>The ending is the city with all the lights out, everyone going outside and singing like it's Christmas.
>amp up the David Lynch inspirations in terms of narrative and even gameplay, even if it filters some people.
That sort of thing during the Otherworld Midwich part of the first game when you exit one of the toilets and end up in a different version of the previous corridor? More of that.
>Playstation 1-2 graphics make a return, since they've made a nice comeback nowadays. Maybe not too scarce on polygons like the first game, since stuff like the Otherworld looks much better in later games, but maybe more like in Source games.
>The soundtrack is 80s music: inspirations ranging from early Swans, to Talk Talk, to Billy Idol.
TLDR: Just combine OK Computer with Silent Hill 1 and 4 and this is it.
Thanks for reading my gay blog post.
Anon, your plot is just racism.
Good
I agree, but the LE CITY BAD theme is just a backdrop for character development and for some connection with Silent Hill, because that place was also a shithole with drug addicts, cults, and witch hunting. Imagine that but on the scale of New York or Tokyo.
>About how disconnected citizens are from each other, even though they all live so close together -
90% of stories set in cities are this
Please stop, we get it already.
Civilization can be measured in the amount of freedom you can have from interacting with others, people don't actually want to live in a tribe handholding singing kumbaya together all the time.
You see how those kind of themes may seem moronic but at least encourage discussion unlike
>im getting le cyberbullied waah
Just make it a critique of the Japanese social life.
The cyberculture thing could be interesting if well executed and written by someone smart, the problem is that people making games today have never heard of Baudrillard.
if i made a silent hill game it would be about fricking the nurses
But this shitty edgy zoomer game is from Cuckgermany
This revival of Silent Hill has been a bigger disaster then letting the West take over after SH4.
I don't think we know that yet.
Is 2 Remake releasing in a few months time?
We have not been given a release date yet.
What's next?
SH2 remake
Townfall
SH f
Needs dance scene and a rock opera.
hardest red pill to swallow:
Silent Hill 2 is not a good game.
It was just the first (at least in mainstream) game to has a big twist ending tat also included repressed memory nonsense.
it was the time where normalgays tried to force the meme that video games can be equal to movies in terms of writing and directing.
>It was just the first (at least in mainstream) game to has a big twist ending tat also included repressed memory nonsense.
You moron.
>equal to movies
And that's why SH2 isn't very good.
Silent Hill 2 was talked about in mainstream media. No one talked about fricking wheelchair Cloud.
I don't know where you're talking about, but in America and Japan FF7 was several times more mainstream than MARY WHERE THE FRICK R U.
>in America and Japan FF7 was several times more mainstream
because of Aerith's death. Literally no one was talking about that fricking part of the story.
What "mainstream media" are you talking about exactly where they'd post major spoilers regarding the plot?
they nailed the vibes i want from new sh, i cant with the walking sim gameplay. if it was 5 hours longer, had some extra enemies and a little combat (maybe just a pipe or knife and keep it close quarters) and a few puzzles it coulda been true kino
Yeh, maybe if they turned the sledgehammer that they used to fricking hammer the "online bullying is bad mmkay" down my throat and put it into the game so I can smash some physical representations of evil bad high school bullies, then it'd be good! It's only weakness was the lack of combat and it's short length!
Someone post the it's trauma sticker
there's an it's trauma shirt and mug now
Damaged girls are somehow hotter.
Modern Konomi making a bad game wow what a surprise its not like there last silent hill project wasn't also hot garbage
>Silent Hill - good
>Play Novel: Silent Hill - bad
>Silent Hill 2 - good
>Silent Hill 3 - good
>Silent Hill 4: The Room - only half good
>Silent Hill (mobile game) - bad
>Silent Hill: The Arcade - bad
>Silent Hill: Origins - bad
>Silent Hill: Orphan - bad
>Silent Hill: The Escape - bad
>Silent Hill: Orphan 2 - bad
>Silent Hill: Homecoming - bad
>Silent Hill: Shattered Memories - passable
>Silent Hill: Orphan 3 - bad
>Silent Hill: Downpour - bad
>Silent Hill HD Collection - bad
>Silent Hill: Book of Memories - bad
>P.T. - good
>Silent Hill: Ascension - bad
>Silent Hill: The Short Message - bad
>Silent Hill 2 (remake) - looks bad
>Silent Hill: Townfall - likely bad
>Silent Hill f - trends forecast bad
4 out of 23 entries to the series are good and one of those was just a demo for a cancelled game. A mere 17% of games with "Silent Hill" in the title are actually good. The last truly good Silent Hill game is over 20 years old now, part of a production pan of a mere 5~ years. There was a 9 year gap between P.T. and Ascension. Of the stuff that's bad, some of it is SHOCKINGLY bad.
This doesn't count the other media either: one film is good, the other terrible, the pachinko machine is awful, all of the comics are awful. Any other crossover material is weak but whatever. Branded merch is usually garbage.
"Silent Hill" is usually a stamp of poor quality. The good games were a fluke in this context. You have a better chance of getting quality from almost any other video game brand name than "Silent Hill".
P.T. was not good and I'm sick of pretending otherwise. It was Slender tier walking simulator garbage.
It set off a shitty trend, but it was amazingly frightening and did a lot with a little. I didn't even want to count it because it's just a promotional thing and I'm not convinced it was ever actually going to be a "Silent Hill" in the true sense, but it was technically a game.
What aspect of it did you find frightening?
The fricking creepy ass wife ghost. Her design was feverishly scary without rethreading established Masahiro Ito tropes (like every other monster in the series), and despite basically being a corpse, little tweaks like her jerky movements and her awkward way of standing made her uncanny as all hell. The general rendering style being so photorealistic added to it. And I get that once you play it and realise there's nothing she actually do to you/any sort of game mechanic that allows a fail state she stop being scary, you have to actually play the whole thing before you realise that. Plus some of the subtle mechanics that were there (events being triggered by where your camera was facing mostly) was pretty fresh.
I wouldn't say it was very jump scare heavy. The more effective scares are when she's just standing there, looking at you.
But Masahiro Ito's monster designs are why people like SH. The wife just looks like any other ghost ever.
Yeah but they're long played out now. They were running out of steam before The Room was over. I was happy for something new.
But that "new" thing is what everyone is doing.
NOW it's what everyone was doing. Plus P.T was simply better at it.
Japs were doing it well before P.T.. Now garbage asset flips are doing it too.
Complaining about tropes... then praising a generic twitchy ghost...? Also, she can technically kill you and send you back to the starting room. This gives you a feeling of losing progress which counts as a fail state if you ask me.
It was jumpscare galore with Kojima's nonsensical placement of random objects everywhere (e.g. see Death Stranding 2's trailer). It was not Silent Hill in the slightest. There were no Silent Hill visuals apart maybe for the eyeball paintings. I keep calling it discount Sadako simulator.
If it were a Sadako simulator at least the ghost would've been hot.
>one film is good
Which one? I didn't watch any of them.
The first one. It's a different story from Silent Hill/has a whole different setting at the heart of it, but it's a competent plot with solid visuals pulled from the games. It's worth watching, maybe a solid 7/10 film. The sequel, Revelations, is hilariously bad. It's a direct sequel, but also somehow an adaptation of 3, so it doesn't work from the very beginning.
I'd say that Silent Hill Downpour is good, especially emulated. It was panned when it came out because it ran like absolute shit on the PS3.
What happened to that Silent Hill twitch series that everyone was mocking every time it went live?
I'm really curious how this sticker came to be.
Is it Japanese trolling?
Isn't that sticker from the twitch game?
Im watching this shit as we speak and I dont even see the point in this tripe. Pure comedy.
Why can't Konami revive Silent Hill PT, give it to Kojima and resume the development? Why did they have to create like 5 different games that no one asked for?
I asked for Silent Hill f.
Kojima is cancer. His only addition is to spend money so he can hang out with pop stars and make everything stupid.
PT is a good proof of concept, but with how Death Stranding and now DS2 is turning out I have zero faith he will do the series justice either. Can't be any worse than Bloober though.
Kojima cannot make a Silent Hill. He just doesn't get the aesthetic.
He will make a mishmash with concepts he steals from a couple horror movies and insert himself in it as Le Pyramid Creatividad.
How would you make a SH game that is neither "le scary cult" or "le supernatural therapy town"?
Take the best bit of the franchise (haunted room you need to escape) & expand upon it. No cult or "I'm the bad guy?" bullshit necessary.
But I like cults
Ok then we can add a twist where the protagonist is the leader of an evil cult
I like the game. And I only come into these threads to see if there are Anita lewds.
it's so hamfisted and unsubtle. did japs really make it?
So what's the connection to Silent Hill F that someone mentioned? I'm actually going to buy that game so I'm curious.
The big reveal is that the Otherworld Phenomenon is now public knowledge and world events such as COVID-19 are causing the Fog, now deemed the "Silent Hill Effect", to spread to locations around the globe. Basically this game's story was a glorified excuse to explain why F will be set in Japan instead of rural America.
The cult version of the Otherworld with all the rust and blood seems to still be unknown to the public though.
If the shitty movie never became mainstream do you think konami would have at least killed it and left the corpse in peace or would they have tried banking on it as an IP again at some point either way?
The movie is like 20 years old, Anon. There have been tons of flop Silent Hill games that came out after it.
I'm saying would those flops have even existed without the film? They killed Team Silent after SH4 and I feel like they were intent on keeping SH dead as it wasn't enough of a big seller to them. After SH became a huge hit on dvd only then did they start trying to market it as a major IP. I'm convinced the film is the worst thing to happen to the series second only to being owned by Konami.
>I'm saying would those flops have even existed without the film?
Yes probably? Konami is clearly content with whoring out their IPs otherwise they clearly they would've stopped after the fourth spinoff failed long after the movie was successful.
I never understood the appeal nor what fans want out of this series nowadays.
Silent Hill is split generally into two camps: people who prefer Silent Hill 1/3 and people who prefer Silent Hill 2. The former deal more with the actual setting itself, the cult shit, the who/what/when/where/why of the town of Silent Hill (in this case through the Mason family). The latter, however, prefer SH2's near-complete detachment from the other games as a mysterious place of personal punishment and purgatory. Unfortunately, SH devs have never been able to choose between these either so every Silent Hill game since 3 has been either terrible, somewhat passable at best, or decent but runs like dogshit like Downpour.
Until someone actually decides a direction to take this series, preferably a new direction, Silent Hill will continue to suck dick.
I am one of those fans who love 1,2,3 and recently I've grown to like 4 as well.
From the westerners, Origins had a bit promise, the captured the atmosphere for sure, but they decided to retcon some things which was like "why".
I got triggered just looking at that cover
SH is one of those franchises that people have described as dying ever since I learned how to use the internet.
>Shooting a zombie dog in Resident Evil
Hell yeah!!!!
>Shooting a zombie dog in Silent Hill
This is shit gameplay..... for some reason I wont explain.....