DIABLO 4 and POE2 thread

I'm so excited Ganker. OUR lives will once more have purpose.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    honestly looking forward to summer
    still disgusts me inside that I have to pay blizzard

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same here. Who would have thought that you will be buying the game out of spite, because poe turned to literal shit over the last couple of leagues.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why would you want to play blizzards outsourced chink mmo that looks and plays like every other chinkoid SK mmo game like lost ark etc etc
      get real

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PoE2 is still being made? I haven't heard any news about it in a long time.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's coming out this year and I'm 100% sure GGG will plan their launch window around syphoning as many Diablo players as possible

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        At best, it's coming late this year, and maybe invitation based for streamers or 'buy in' with expensive supporter packs only. As little as they've shown over the years, I can't imagine that they're anywhere close to a finish line.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Eh I'm guessing they're saving it for Exilecon this year

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And that falls together with Diablo 4's release. Can't imagine that many people are watching exilecon online this time without being baited in with mtx. They are quite fucked to be honest, and also sabotaged their streamers by more or less forcing them to attend the show, instead of streaming d4. Lol

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They've been finished for years. They've been waiting for a D4 release date so D4 doesn't snipe theirs (which Blizzard is known to do)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            chris wilson can't pay streamers enough to stay away from D4 unless tencent gets behind the campaign.

            [...]
            qrd?

            some canadian kid called the lead dev a fat bald retard fuck and the lead dev fired him from streaming his game on twitch.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah no shit. That's why he's waiting for after D4 to be out and stale before he released PoE2. My guess is they plan to try and snipe the D4 playerbase whenever there's a lull in content

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I remember he waited to do a league because of cyberpunk release LMAO

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not a bad idea, they changed the league schedule for Elden Rings release too.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so the game is purely based on MTX sales and not gameplay?
                WHAT THE FUCK?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think D4 and PoE audiences will overlap much if at all. PoE is barely even a video game, it's an addiction simulator where gameplay is an afterthought.

              Diablo 4 is a video game first and foremost and its focus is on gameplay.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You should focus your advertising on Twitter and Reddit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                upvoted, where's the link to your patreon?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Completely agree, and people lashing out just indicates that it's addicts raging. PoE turned into an online casino, coated as an arpg.

                Yeah no shit. That's why he's waiting for after D4 to be out and stale before he released PoE2. My guess is they plan to try and snipe the D4 playerbase whenever there's a lull in content

                I can't imagine people going back to poe once they tried it, except for the people who are used to it. Think about all the quality of life features in d4, and then about poe. Yeah, are you really going to put up with picking up all the atomised currency items, one by one, by hand? No chance.
                And melee will feel super clunky with your character walking to each monster, instead of the magnetism that is in d4 (already implemented in wolcen lol).

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Shill Blizzshart post

                so the game is purely based on MTX sales and not gameplay?
                WHAT THE FUCK?

                What the fuck are you even saying?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Quite pathetic to be honest, to call everything you don't like to hear a shill.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the lead dev has no competence that his game can make money because the release of another game might take sales of overpriced MTX.
                pretty fucking simple.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Even though delusional PoE fags will roast you, you're right. PoE is a trading sim economy game and an ARPG second.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                play ruthless

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This *sniff* is where the irony lies. Ruthless is Chris' league to cope with his midlife crisis. It's a nostalgia callback trip to simpler times, when people had nothing, and farmed docks tirelessly. An overall slower experience where you knew specific monsters, read their names and so on, and so on. Boomers might remember. The change is completely in line with them throttling down the game's overall speed and experience to make it nu-boomer looter poe2.
                The problem is, that the game can't be turned back to what it once was with all the shit they added. Monsters with their damage and speed, for example, are a complete different calibre today than they were back then. You can't revert years of league mechanics that force you to go fast. And forget the necessary layers up on layers of defence to not get vaporised
                But nu-male gays who can only make this about themselves have only currency per hour in their head. It's perverted ideas about optimisation of builds and grind that they have in their skulls. It's a retarded warped perspective that came to them through a perceived competition which they have to opt out of by choosing a shit league mode. They see themselves always in comparison to imaginary, more successful black bulls, so to say. Their game is their girl, and they see it fucked by stronger males. Them speaking about SSF/hc/ruthless/lgbtq and what else is the ultimate coping mechanic to convince themselves that they are not wasting their time grinding for items that could have been bought for one chaos orb.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                my favorite part about poe is how the game is so "complex" that every single build just ends up being the exact same aoe spam that kills everything instantly.

                PoE started out fine but over the years it has become an actual parody of itself.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Chris is trying to change PoE back into what it used to be but the zoomer fanbase throws a shitfit any time something slightly difficult

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The problem lies more in the fact that he deleted the sandbox approach to the game and increases the grind with each fucking league. Everyone would be fine with a slower game, if the game would give you meaningful drops. But, nobody but neets and streamers like this game becoming a pastime job without pay.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah i remember there was that one league a while back where they made monsters a bit harder to kill and the addicts absolutely lost their shit lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >slow players down
                >don't slow down monsters
                That's where the problem lies. If he blanket nerfs it'd be fine but he is insistent on only pulling back on player power when monster power has been powercrept along with players

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its graphical overhaul + new 6 link system + 1 extra subclass for each class. Not like they have to code the entire game from scratch. Thing about visual assets like modeling and animation is that shit takes time even if you're good at it. Animation isn't expensive because you need some wunderchild maestros to do it, Golden Age Disney hired and trained any young dude they grabbed from the streets. Its expensive because its time-consuming job so you need huge teams if you wish to make something big in relatively short amount of time.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's an expansion for PoE. Not "PoE2". If you think otherwise you're mazed beyond belief.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          7 acts + New gear socketing system + 7 new subclasses is a pretty big expansion.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >acts

            They have the opportunity to make it so you don't need to actually get through the campaign anymore and they just... make another campaign for you to have to get through.

            Bravo Chris.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              BFR is a turbo moron who has some sort of acid trip rose tinted glasses about his "D2 experience". I can't wait to see all the QoL poo2 was supposed to bring disappear in the exilecon reveals.

              GGG has been skullfucking the game for the past 7 leagues. Current league is the worst league of all time, Ritual was the peak of the game, and they're hemorrhaging players every league

              poe 2 will continue the trend of worsening the game each new release. D4 as saddened as I am to admit it will be a total hit.

              Harvest scared them so badly they scorched earth'd the fucking game. Shouldn't have exposed how fucked your loot is in a loot based game when you continually make loot increasingly more important faGGGots.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >more than half the game's ascendancies are garbage that nobody uses
            >trusting GGG with making new ones that won't be DOA or nerfed into uselessness the next patch

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              GGG only ever let builds accidentally be good. the more combo bloat there is the less chance they will catch an op combo.
              The most OP build in the game (herald stackers) came from GGG trying to add cluster garden gnomeels and not having the proper time to check all the combos since they did it last minute. PoE2 will be fun for at least 2 leagues since the first nerf is always a non-nerf.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          u r a retard

          7 acts + New gear socketing system + 7 new subclasses is a pretty big expansion.

          it is a full fledged sequel. Gameplay centric entries like poe dont give a shit it is on the same expanded engine

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it is a full fledged sequel
            >with the exact same endgame (which is THE GAME period) as current PoE
            "PoE2" is PoE. Simple as.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            These are the gays defending poe... Holy shit.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >nooo I obey absolute labels, you can't be saying things I don't like, you are satan trying to trick my faith! Save me Blizzardman!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        GGG has been skullfucking the game for the past 7 leagues. Current league is the worst league of all time, Ritual was the peak of the game, and they're hemorrhaging players every league

        poe 2 will continue the trend of worsening the game each new release. D4 as saddened as I am to admit it will be a total hit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          factually incorrect

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Drone moment

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            your game will die chris

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >expansion vs the league after kalandra
              >barely 20% more players
              keep seething

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Still fries my brain whenever I see someone praising the current state of the game over ritual and before. The game got destroyed so hard over the years that even the slightest "buff" is considered a game changer. Those freaks must have come late to the game and are completely overcompensating with time and money, and therefore taking it personally when someone says 'game bad'. gays don't even realise how much was deleted from the game over the years, and that they being sold breadcrumbs as gold nuggets.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >D4 as saddened as I am to admit it will be a total hit.
          I wish you were wrong but I've been alive long enough to see the history and trends of video games to know that you're probably right.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Current league is the worst league of all time
          You mean League before this one? Kalandra had multiple major balance issues at the same time ruining the game for everyone from casuals to veterans and nolifers. Sanctum is like Blight League but less rippy.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            sanctum is a garbage mechanic. the rewards don't exist until you get to floor 4 and only meta builds can think about doing that fast enough that it's worth leaving maps for. melee gets utterly screwed as usual.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >the rewards don't exist until you get to floor 4
              Kek I got my first okay global Charm item in floor 2. Main problem with the mechanic is that the rewards are sporadic as fuck. Lycia should guarantee a decent Charm but sometimes you get nothing. Meanwhile you can just get lucky and get a decent Diablo 2 Charm in early floors.
              >only meta builds can think about doing that fast enough that it's worth leaving maps
              It gives a decent chunk of xp on room clear, so if you just rush the trap rooms you get xp worth of 3 Syndicate members in 10 seconds with very minimal risk.
              >melee gets utterly screwed as usual.
              Thats why Sanctum is like how Blight League used to be. Melee builds couldn't beat the early Blight mechanic at all without failing them. Except Sanctum doesn't randomly one-shot you like early Blight used to do.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >skullfucking the game for the past 7 leagues
          The only (rational) explanation I have for this is that they're removing everything good only to bring it back later to the praise of all the idiots. The problem is, it's the equivalent to bloodletting and there's no guarantee people will come back. It's like a drug dealer stepping on the cocaine, losing all their customers, hoping that 1-2 years down the line once their reputation is in the shitter that the return of the good cocaine will bring people back.

          It doesn't help that Chris is probably a clinical sadist and enjoys the suffering. Anything is possible now with how much flesh they've carved from the game. Hell, you can expect CI to get changed or just straight up telling Standard players their Remove-Only tabs are getting deleted and they had "fair warning" once you couldn't sell anything out of them. Nobody's complaining about how shit the current league is because all the people with half a brain have left.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Chris making Exalts worthless destroying Standard is a next-level sadist move. All those people with Exalts tattooed on their bodies - get fucked.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Now question is will my potato pc able to run it?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can your potato run current PoE? If so, then yes. It's the same game.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            As long if poe smoother work then I in.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    On D4 announce I was interested only in D4. Now I'm interested only in POE2. Funny, huh.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am baffled people still trust Blizzard at this point after Diablo 3 and Immortal.
    Diablo 4 is going to have a psuedo MMO experience thanks to it's always online instanced world.
    PoE2 is a hard pass considering the developers of PoE purposely make item drops rates insufferably low to help boost the trade e-con players. PoE is a Stock Broker Sim/Money Laundering scam.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      me like diablo me buy it

      simple

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Never played immortal but 3 was fun despite the usual Ganker sperg anger over it not being just like diablo 2, which they now claim has also always been bad. This board is terrible and barely anyone plays anything

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >3 was fun
        Not on launch it wasn't.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am hoping that immortal being received so bad is causing a lot of course correction with D4. Battle pass and store is reduced to cosmetics only currently, so it's a start.

      Just a wait and see if the game itself is worth it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        From the beta, character systems in D4 don't even have a good avenue to sell player power or boosts. I don't think it'll stray away from cosmetics only unless they end up having some reason to sell stash tabs like PoE.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >From the beta, character systems in D4 don't even have a good avenue to sell player power or boosts.
          I get the impression that as a NA player of D3, the collection menu where you can see your pets, pennants & wings was a literal cash shop window in korea and china, but I don't know anyone who played it there. They built it for more microtransactions, but the NA and EU gamer culture was highly resistance to it then. Now, in a post-Fortnite world, I feel like the D4 cash shop will be a little bolder.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I am baffled people still trust Blizzard at this point after Diablo 3 and Immortal.
      Blizzdrones are the most mentally unstable retarded fanbase that exists.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A lot of people are also burned out by PoE and want to see it crash and burn at this point. I can imagine diablo being only mediocre, but that's probably enough for a lot of folks to fuck off for good from baldo's wild ride. The only people liking poe currently, seem to be people who came late to the game and don't know it any better.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >A lot of people are also burned out by PoE and want to see it crash and burn at this point. I can imagine diablo being only mediocre, but that's probably enough for a lot of folks to fuck off for good
          No that's wrong. 95% of the people who will buy D4 before release have never heard of PoE. They're just subhuman blizzdrones

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That might be the case. They are my guinea pigs trying the game out in early access.
            My entire friend list from poe's early days is dead, and actively hates on poe. Nobody wants to return to it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Pretty much this. D4 can be average. but there's practically 0 competition until PoE 2 comes out.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >paying price of entry for a game I might come back to seasonally for a few years
        >blizzdrone
        Blizzdrones are the brain damaged fucks trying to convince people that Dragonflight is good. I just like ARPGs.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    both look like shit, but at least poe has 11 years worth of content and wont make me pay for expansions every year

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish I could sell this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there are a few mtx that you can buy/sell on steam
      wich is weird since with all that stuff GGG can make more money

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >PoE 2
    >it's not a new game

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait what?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's pretty much an Overwatch 2 kind of deal. Some new systems replacing old ones (links etc), a new campaign, but much of gameplay remains fundamentally the same.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man, POE ran so fucking bad.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeha it sucks dick, I've got 2400 hours played.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    D4 is a shitty mmo with dailies and raids, it's not surviving the streamer-sponsored first week.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's sad but both are going to be shit.
    >Nu-Blizzard making anything that isn't a overtly cancerous cash grab full of chud shit
    >The kiwi morons have been going out of their way to murder their game over the last 2 years
    It's sad but D2:R is still the only thing that I enjoy for short spurts when they ladder reset.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is D4 going to make me give them my phone number?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They already have it

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i have zero faith in blizzard making a good game anymore, i'm not even gonna think about picking up D4 until at least a month after release so i can see how everything shakes out.

    personally i found poe kinda boring in terms of plot which is really a shame because the game had some amazing setpieces, i just couldn't bring myself to really give a shit about them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      D4 is a shitty mmo with dailies and raids, it's not surviving the streamer-sponsored first week.

      I am baffled people still trust Blizzard at this point after Diablo 3 and Immortal.
      Diablo 4 is going to have a psuedo MMO experience thanks to it's always online instanced world.
      PoE2 is a hard pass considering the developers of PoE purposely make item drops rates insufferably low to help boost the trade e-con players. PoE is a Stock Broker Sim/Money Laundering scam.

      Fuck you, when did Ganker hate Diablo?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        are you living in the 00s, blizzard gone to shit a long time now.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't hate diablo, I hate blizzard

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Since D3 came out.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          D3 is good thought

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i bought it on release date. it sucked. i heard it eventually got better/good. fuck off, the minute i buy the game i expect to have fun, not in some time later in the future.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I dont think that ARPG games have ever been good as the gameplay kind of always remains the same of grind so you can grind. Theres very little skill involved in the game where say player decisions effect gameplay, its instead, how good are your talents, how good is your gear, have you copied some autists build?

        I think if the game was very good then the best builds should be intuitively understandable, the gear should come to you in a manner that provides sensibility, not an endless pursuit of I need x y and z until I can then grind out better misscelaneous stats on my gloves or item enchantments or farming this rare boss.

        The game becomes boring as its just farming for the sake of farming. You know what would be cool is if there was genuine AI in the game so no two encounters were the same or bosses would adapt to your playstyle.

        I feel like for these types of games the budgets/technology is not there yet and we are basically just playing repeats of 90s games with better graphics and minor feature tweaks here and there.

        For all intents and purposes diablo type games you move around and shoot alegebra at circles until they go away and drop loot.

        Why not say have genuine unique items where no two players can have the same build so you cant farm shit or do cookie cutter builds?

        I feel like what ruins the genre right now is everything is figured out to a fine detail and if you dont use the resources on a site like say Icyveins or you arent autistic enough to do the math and spreedsheets on the best build/gear set up then you are actively gimping yourself.

        What really weakens these games is that a genuine sense of mystery and adventure are missing from them and it instead devolves into procedurally generated math problems that award you with dopamine if the stuff you want drops.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think there are games that lean more to the mechanical side of skill checks, rather than making it all about grinding and time.
          But I agree, the genre should have evolved from focusing on grind to a game focused on a more mechanically and movement based gameplay across the board. Maybe some sort of twin stick shooter with an elaborate item system, and monsters that don't just walk in a straight line into you or fling some brown pixel sized shit projectile at you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nioh 2 is kinda like that. Has a pretty simplistic Diablo-esque loot system.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Has a pretty simplistic Diablo-esque loot system
              Lol what
              Nioh's loot system is far more complicated than diablo's

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Last Epoch allows for craftable gear and difficulty that scales with your skill rather than gear.
          Shame it will never leave Early Access

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty sure they said that they should have official launch before next year but we will see. The two subclasses I want to play still aren’t in. Feels bad man

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This multiplayer shitshow is pretty bad for them. It'll be a year since the last patch once it's "fully rolled out" and the most frustrating part of all of this is they are acting like the game is in full release despite, 'muh 1.0 release milestone'.
            On top the fact they barely were developing until this past year. Lol. Lmao. Shame because I fundamentally like the game.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              MP focus ruins ARPGs. I hope to God and the Bear that they don't balance drop rates and other shit around some gay twitch streamer trade economy like poe does
              Fuck I hate trade so fucking much

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So what arpgs/single player arpgs do you recommend?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh forgot that the multiplayer is coming soonish. I'm still hyped for it, and will play it over any other most likely.

            Nioh 2 is kinda like that. Has a pretty simplistic Diablo-esque loot system.

            Nioh 1's DLC filtered me hard with too much bullshit enemies and placement, and overall the game was simply too hard for me. Can't go back to it, as my girlfriend doesn't want to hear me rage all the time. LOL

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Nioh 1's DLC filtered me hard with too much bullshit enemies and placement, and overall the game was simply too hard for me. Can't go back to it, as my girlfriend doesn't want to hear me rage all the time. LOL
              Put a lot of points in HP just like in Diablo 2/Path of Exile/Souls games. Then balance your gear weight so that your Toughness is A, while Agility is at least B. Should be way easier.

              Also you can cancel blocking into a dodge roll, that then cancels itself right into a block again, so technically as long as you have Ki you can defend indefinitely. Finally spells and ninja stuff levels up by using them, just like in Elder Scrolls games. So spam those free health regen/lifesteal spells to your hearts content.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >be fundamentally best ARPG on the market
            >keep procrastinating endlessly
            >take 4 years to release 14 small updates
            >sold out to Tencent
            >scrap trade
            >add MTX cosmetics
            What is happening to this game?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Last Epoch is exactly at the level of complexity I want in this genre and I love the current class design but holy shit the development is moving at a glacial pace. If they were hitting 1.0 a few months ago when PoE players were dooming during Kalandra the game would've been absolutely set by picking up fed up PoE players, but I think they totally missed their window of opportunity now.

            >From the beta, character systems in D4 don't even have a good avenue to sell player power or boosts.
            I get the impression that as a NA player of D3, the collection menu where you can see your pets, pennants & wings was a literal cash shop window in korea and china, but I don't know anyone who played it there. They built it for more microtransactions, but the NA and EU gamer culture was highly resistance to it then. Now, in a post-Fortnite world, I feel like the D4 cash shop will be a little bolder.

            There are MTX in Asia for D3, and you're right about those menus in particular. Ironically, the resistance to MTX in the west is probably why D3's continued development was so shit. Blizzard had no incentive to do anything big for their seasons since there was no recurring income from it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah I'm afraid they took too long to get the bun out of the oven. It's a shame because it's my favorite game currently in the genre but it's clear that it's mismanaged and they didn't have the manpower/funds to get it together when the window of opportunity was there.
              I figure after the Tencent investment cash dries up it'll just fade away like Wolcen.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Last Epoch are ARPG's last hope

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        When it became a mmo lite with no itemisation, mounts, and daily raids.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hate Diablo 3 and I've hated Blizzard every since they changed Alterac Valley in WoW to have a ticket system. What changed from a fun intense battleground became a boring snoozefest

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        (almost) Everyone loves Diablo 2. I like Diablo 3 but understand why some people might have a bad opinion about it. Nobody believes current Blizzard can produce anything good, in this case Diablo 4, simply because they prove over and over again that they really can't.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Diablo - Immortal is the most profitable video game on the market, rivaling Genshin Impact.
          Blizzard lost their Chinese userbase, so they have no reason to continue to bend the knee at their behest.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the most profitable
            And not good.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >when did Ganker hate Diablo?
        Have you been sleeping since before D3 released?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ganker hates all the cool games now because of contrarianism. TLOU2, Elden Ring, D2Ressurected, D4. Like what the fuck

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          [...]

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
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          Fuck you, when did Ganker hate Diablo?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Elden Ring won GOTY 2022.
            Cope.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can tell you the exact date. It's whenever diablo 3 launched.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Diablo 1 is a flawed classic, an unpolished gem.
        Diablo 2 is a timeless classic.
        Diablo 3 has combat like buttered silk but the writing is intense cringe and the endgame is bizarrely dumbed down. Very much a product of its studio, which has had a long and painful decline in ability to make good games.
        Diablo 4 is quite definitely going to shit the bed, modern Blizzard couldn't find its own ass with both hands and an atlas.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PoE2 is LITERALLY, unironically just PoE. D4 will be shit but ostensibly it's a "new" game.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >modern blizzard shit

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t like RPGs with rare random loot that only have minor drop chances even from bosses, which force you to farm. I prefer RPGs we’re you can acquire the best items through normal gameplay through the story.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I prefer RPGs we’re you can acquire the best items through normal gameplay through the story.
      Okay, but why did you wrote this in thread about diablo?

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nah Diablo is dead now. The series died at 3.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Diablo 3 and PoE are mid games, nothing will change. If you like them great for you I guess.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      poe is a direct evolution upon d2 and improves upon it in every conceivable way. It is impossible to go back to d2 with how fucking clunky and archaic it is

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Except that Diablo 2 is fun and PoE isn't, so... not quite an evolution where it matters.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        diablo 2 actually had items you could use dropping on the ground. and also had an identify all function.
        poe has all loot you find on the ground except currency be completely worthless. the opposite of what aRPGs should be.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >diablo 2 actually had items you could use dropping on the ground
          kek no it didn't. You did Baalruns and Gambled with Gheed for your gear.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            diablo 2 100% has good gear you can find that just drops. Im pretty sure you never played the game you just saw some streamer gambling for some random shit.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >diablo 2 100% has good gear you can find that just drops
              But so you can do the same in PoE as well. The problem is that you play Softcore Trade so you tweak your filter to only show currency so you can buy the desired gear you want from a chinese farmer bot. So of course you don't find anything valuable on the ground because you press the "win the game"-button too early. Play SSF.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I wasnt the guy arguing against PoE. I'm strictly a diablo 2 guy but I have nothing against PoE.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you play ssf, you have a defeatist mindset, and do so to remove yourself from a pseudo perceived competition. You cope by saying that you are enjoying it, that you are now free to use currency, but you know deep down that using currency is a waste, and ssf is pure cuckoldry that tunnels you into meta builds and absurd hours of grinding if you want to go anything but meta. It's a mode solely for racing, streamers, and neets who want to prolong the time to not think about their lives.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                casual detected, opinion discarded. Why don't you go back to playing your match 4 mobile games.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                While I can agree on that hc is complete bullshit due to one shot fiestas, ssf is just a waste of time. The idea to lock yourself up with the online casino is just beyond me. You might trick yourself into believing that you are now free to use currency for crafting, it is a waste of time and limiting you on so many aspects of the game.
                In the end, ssf cultists come across to me as people who simply want to drop out of a competition, they themselves put up in their head. As if it is important to compete in a video game.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                SSF is more fun because it promotes hoarding anything that might be even slightly useful later in the game. Trade League turns too much into EVE Online where you're just grinding for resource to use in Trade and nothing else.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                SSF rekindled my interest for this game after 8 years of sitting in hideout multimanaging tabs on my browser to get marginal upgrades on my character. That, and the fact that you can just slap on 2 obliterations on most characters, scale some generic damage and cruise through the entire game exploding screens due to the dumbfuck monster life scaling explosions. Walking around watching fireworks is not gameplay. SSF let me enjoy the game for a few more months, actually felt like I was playing something past PoB. Even then, I ended up quitting. Game's in a shit state, a clean start would help it so much. Just delete all the fucking bloat already.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Walking around watching fireworks is not gameplay
                The thing is, PoE players don't care about gameplay. They just want to farm currency like chink gold farmers and follow whatever FOTM build guide is popular.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >PoE players don't care about gameplay
                isn't PoE all about how fast you can pull the slot machine handle and chris wilson(10 cent) is slowing that down so he can keep and control how long you stay in the casino?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >tunnels you into meta builds
                >I don't make meta houses i build them with bird shit
                >I don't make meta cars i build them with straw
                >I'm not a meta doctor i use alternative medicine

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You could have simply said that you hate options and follow your favourite streamer's guide. Creating your off-meta builds was literally the genre about before poe ruined it, but okay.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Creating your off-meta builds
                >Hehe finally after 2 hours in the fan made autism calculator i've made my 300k DPS build
                >Look at all those losers playing their 3m DPS day two builds hehe

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ssf is pure cuckoldry
                the fuck is this beta cope?
                SSF is the best way to play ARPGs, sitting in trade and paying someone to kill monsters for you so you can get X or Y drop is cuckoldry. Why would you willing pay someone to play the game for you?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                PoEfags are mentally ill. They play for the casino aspect, not the video game aspect.

                I'm so glad Blizzard will never implement full trading in D4.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            have a nice day stupid little zoomer bitchgay retard.

            >PoE2? Same thing with some updates, except you'll be losing all your buyfag shit from PoE
            this is factually wrong what the fuck

            What's so different about PoE2 except it no longer running on a potato engine and having a simpler talent system?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >have a nice day stupid little zoomer bitchgay retard.
              chud confirmed. You've never played Diablo 2, have you?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                youre the subhuman retard who thinks items dropping on the ground are unusable in a game that lives and dies on its rare drop table

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              the fuck are you talking about, poe 2 runs on the same garbage engine they've always been using and there's no "talent system" to even simplify what the actual fuck
              you fucking schizo retard redditfrogposter there is 0 reason to be excited for path of excrement but youre making me look bad with your made up babble.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Retarded newgay tryhard ESL retarded waste of oxygen. Read the posts before replying to them with your autistic rage fueled misinformed shitposting. Die in a fire.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                have a nice day

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Stay mad.

                Why click on a thread of a game and genre you have no interest in, Mr reddit spacer? Literally woman on her period behaviour.

                Why make shill threads on my website? You're not free from being criticized. Deal with it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you sound pretty retarded anon

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you never played D2 dumb moron
            you grind 85 zones for months to get shit like deaths fathom/griffons/arach/god roll rings and cows for high runes to make nigma/infinity/fort/grief

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ARPG's went down the path of being just autistic loot grinds rather than one-and-done adventures like Diablo 1 with magical items that are very humble by comparison.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >game genres evolve past barebones garbage
      shocking

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you don't like THIS?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nice flicker strike you have there.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what class is this? I want to go fast.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          monk

      • 3 weeks ago
        2Guns0Fucks

        I bet you only have to pay 10k for this build

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's D3, you can gear into that build with slightly less dashing usually within a day or two with some luck.

          Your tone and post have opened my eyes though as a D3 player. Immortal really has soured so many people on Diablo as a brand that it really bums me out. D3 has plenty of problems but the core combat is actually pretty fun, but it's impossible to make a case for this(or D4 going forward) because people hate everything Blizzard and Diablo by default now. Just bums me out.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I wish we could get a game with PoE's depth but with gameplay as smooth and polished as D3.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >PoE's bloat
              ftfy

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not that anon, but PoE actually has a beautiful amount depth in character building when it comes to mechanics. That doesn't deny that it's gated behind tons of unecessary bloat that should be removed. It also needs better clarity with their text. I swear GGG can't into hyperliteral.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >poe
              >depth
              moron, what

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean compared to every other ARPG PoE's skill system has the depth of the ocean

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                poe skill system is "what if we took all the abilities and put them on gems"
                its a mess

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                filtered

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so what are the three viable skills this league?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                People are killing ubers in HC with unlinked melee skills, anon.
                You're living in the past.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                post the three viable skills this league

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                seismic trap, ea balista, boneshatter, cold dot, toxic rain - is it enough?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                where the minion build?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                JESUS CHRIST CHRIS WILSON

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not that knowledgeable about those. I think srs is alright, absolution too and maw of something I think counts as a minion build as well

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                damn thought she'd look more autistic than that, she's kind of cute
                minionchads win again

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                too bad, she got nerfed to literal death
                thanks again chris :
                poefags get lose Kay but get to keep Lily

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry. This post

                I'm not that knowledgeable about those. I think srs is alright, absolution too and maw of something I think counts as a minion build as well

                is for (You).

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >PoE's depth
              You mean bloat? No thank you. D4 has actual builds and combat instead of the same AoE blob spam that is every single build in PoE.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >attack
                >defense
                >actual builds
                maybe if you're retarded

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What's the difference to total DPS and eHP?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >whats the difference between equiping items with the green arrow pointing up vs figuring out 60340202 mod and mechanic interactions
                You're unironically this retarded? No wonder poe makes you seethe

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >figuring out 60340202 mod and mechanic interactions
                "Will my AoE blob be purple or green" <--- PoE "mechanics" and "interactions"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >does this item have a bigger dps number than this other one
                >spam single skill
                damn these diablo mechanics are fire

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >does this item have a bigger dps number than this other one
                and then you look at the affixes and see they have zero synergy with the rest of your build and your actual dps has massively decreased

                >spam single skill
                LMAO
                what you're describing is PoE, not D3 or D4. Take your meds.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >or D4
                I played 2 characters in the beta, my blood necro was basic builder spender with retarded burst every 5 casts, and my sorc just held down incinerate while he automatically shit meteors all over my screen.

                I don't think they're making particularly complex options in D4 based on what I saw.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thats because you're retarded. Its like a monkey looking at math equations

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                PoE babby got blasted the fuck out by a simple question. Amazing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The only one getting blasted the fuck out is you for being a drooling retard

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This, Diablo 3 is fun but holy shit the set system makes making builds completely pointless and rifts being the only endgame is just sad.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          diablo 3 is a game that lasts for about 2 weeks and then youre done now

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            but so does a fresh poe league if it's not shit, which as of late they are

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Will 4 nerf our skills a bit? I hated the Xmen skills I had in 3 after a while, like the laser beam disintegrating everything. It wasn't about the fight anymore but the loot and grind gambling.
        I physically felt ill after a few hours each time, like I have been doing something wrong or unhealthy with 3. It had its moments but overall it is an unhealthy game to play.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, 4 is toned down quite a bit compared to 3. Maybe too much actually.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >hating on fucking Disintegrate
          Fuck you.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        loved the monk class, all the sets were so much fun. I keep watching diablo 4 videos and it seems like they discarded everything that made reaper of souls fun. None of the classes or abilities look interesting. The combat looks slow/boring but its also gameplay from earlier levels. I would like them to post some videos of what we might expect from end game content/playstyle

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >loved the monk class
          Bro could you export the model using renderdoc?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The best thing they can do for "endgame" is that you kill Diablo and the credits roll and you're free to go play whatever's next in your backlog.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Then you don't understand this genre.
            >but Diablo 1!
            Is almost a completely different game from D2 and beyond.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Endgame in the beta was open world bosses, bounties, and nightmare dungeons

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is literally the only build that goes this fast across the entire game
        And it's subpar as fuck

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    poe has been shit since a4 was put into it and diablo is dead. so poe2 will be absolute shit and d4 is just wow.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Western Woke games
    Hard pass

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PoE has started having more tits with new monsters and characters. And PoE 2 is going to have a fantasy Dejah Thoris/Mata Hari in it in Act 2:

      Its graphical overhaul + new 6 link system + 1 extra subclass for each class. Not like they have to code the entire game from scratch. Thing about visual assets like modeling and animation is that shit takes time even if you're good at it. Animation isn't expensive because you need some wunderchild maestros to do it, Golden Age Disney hired and trained any young dude they grabbed from the streets. Its expensive because its time-consuming job so you need huge teams if you wish to make something big in relatively short amount of time.

      Also posting PoE2's Ranger concept art has gotten me banned from Ganker twice now.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would shill for PoE2 if the direction PoE has had for the last couple of years left me with any inspiration. Fuck me, what a fall from grace. Not that I think D4 is gonna be anything to write home about but frankly, fuck GGG.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >PoE 2 will be an even worse RNG fest because of Chris Wilson's "Vision".
    >D4 will be microtransaction and battle-pass driven mobile port.
    I don't know whether I should envy people's hope or feel sorry for their stupidity.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >battleslop pass diablo 4
    >"increasing engagement" exile
    fuck of chris wolcen, both are garbage, arpg as genre should follow up rts example and fade into obscurity if this and torchlight/wolcen are all we get

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Still looking forward to Last Epoch and the Wolcen update...A man can dream.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Last epoch is the only one I still have any hope for but eternal waiting for multiplayer kills me

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Multiplayer beta starts in like 15 days dude.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I wait since may 2021

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man you guys are a bunch of bitchass retards in here and are pissing me the fuck off with how utterly unintelligent you are. Borderline retards. Diablo "4" is LITERALLY Diablo 3.5 in the most literal sense possible. The game looks almost exactly the same. It's the same engine and everything. The entire game has been recycled. You can't call this a new game in any way shape or form. It's literally a Diablo 3 patch at most.

    PoE2? Same thing with some updates, except you'll be losing all your buyfag shit from PoE. Go for it if you like PoE I guess. Being excited for either though? Lmao what?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who care? I will still play both.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The game looks almost exactly the same.
      Seek an ophthalmologist ASAP.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are a little disingenuous gay and I would beat the shit out of you, stupid gay cunt shill. It's the exact same game with a different color palette and some new models and changes to the lighting. It's not a new game by any means. At all. Literally a D3 expansion. Lowest effort shit of all time. gay bitch.

        Who care? I will still play both.

        >I have shit taste and am clinically retarded

        All I read.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm serious, get your eyes checked.
          You need urgent medical care.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      west cuck have nothing else meanwhile true ARPG chad will play Wu Long.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not even the same genre of games. Dumb ESL. WE true ARPG chads will be playing single player non resurrected grail collecting Diablo 2.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it's not the same genre

          lol cope you just suck

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But it literally is a different game genre, retard.

            I'm serious, get your eyes checked.
            You need urgent medical care.

            >no argument

            Yeah ok stupid shill gay. Enjoy your 0.02 cents.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >reddit spacer is freaking out

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >newgay using buzzwords he doesn't know the meaning of trying his hardest to fit in

                Yeah stay mad shill retard.

                >But it literally is a different game genre, retard.
                >both are ARPG
                >one is just a click simulator
                >the other one has actual gameplay

                >isometric rpgs are the same as souls like third person action rpg games

                Retard.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                rpgs are the same as souls like third person action rpg games

                you never played Nioh. Nioh is not like Souls kys retarded click monkey.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I've never played Nioh, because I like isometric rpg games, and not games like Nioh. Retarded russian subhuman.

                If you unironically believe D3 and D4 look 1:1 graphically, yes, you need to get your eyes check. You likely suffer from cataracts, glaucoma or jus bad vision in general.
                Have someone drive you to the hospital, I do not recommend you attempt to drive.

                >same animations
                >same UI
                >same skill effects
                >same world design
                >same everything else except with new models, darker colors, and some gameplay changes

                Get cancer you worthless shill tumor.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah I've never played Nioh, because I like isometric rpg games, and not games like Nioh. Retarded russian subhuman
                I'm not russian you ape stop getting butthurt over Nioh because it filtered you

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It didn't filter me because I've never played it. Stop typing like a retarded monkey.

                Imagine telling lies, being called out and now raging so hard. Bet you are already stomping with your feet. LOL!
                [...]
                Too sissy to answer. Close the thread and move on. It's that simple, woman.

                Where's the getting called out part, shill?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Imagine telling lies, being called out and now raging so hard. Bet you are already stomping with your feet. LOL!

                Stay mad.

                [...]
                Why make shill threads on my website? You're not free from being criticized. Deal with it.

                Too sissy to answer. Close the thread and move on. It's that simple, woman.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fuck, I'm starting to think that you're legally blind.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why click on a thread of a game and genre you have no interest in, Mr reddit spacer? Literally woman on her period behaviour.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that's not reddit spacing newfag

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >But it literally is a different game genre, retard.
              >both are ARPG
              >one is just a click simulator
              >the other one has actual gameplay

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If you unironically believe D3 and D4 look 1:1 graphically, yes, you need to get your eyes check. You likely suffer from cataracts, glaucoma or jus bad vision in general.
              Have someone drive you to the hospital, I do not recommend you attempt to drive.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >PoE2? Same thing with some updates, except you'll be losing all your buyfag shit from PoE
      this is factually wrong what the fuck

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    someone fucking please export the druid model from IV to other game, he doesn't deserve to be in a shitty cookie clicker RPG. I could put him in Bannerlord, if you guys want to. Just give me the raw model with bones and textures.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    poe is just not fun anymore

    every build has to be
    1) invincible
    2) boss tier single damage
    3) fast

    and onyl a few skills can achieve this outside of trade league

    i stopped playing this league, everyone seems to like sanctum but to me it's just not solving the real problems. don't ahve any desire to play, still my favorite game, but it just needs to turn the clock back on itself, sort of like classic wow.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i'm not paying 70+USD for a game and i'm not buying stash tabs for a tencent slot machine casino game.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was in the D4 closed endgame beta, ask me anything.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How did you like it?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A little mixed. My initial impression was pleasantly surprised, but the more I got into it the more worried I got. The very small amount of legendaries and uniques made the build variety feel very limited, but I'm optimistic that release will have more of both. I am more worried about how fun the endgame grind will be in the long term. World bosses are alright but mindless since never once did we fail to kill them. Nightmare dungeons are an alright idea, but feel like tedious GRs with extra steps in practice. Also, the enemy balance was kind of wack with bosses being generally easy but elites being potential unkillable oneshots with the correct modifiers.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What's GR? And what class did you try out? Is the barbarian fun and varied in its play style? Was hoping that the game doesn't spiral down in shooting one-shot projectiles back and forth like in a certain other arpg...

          I like the genre, just not your garbage game. Also nice one exposing yourself as a pathetic shill with your tattoo comment. You can stop projecting too. Little gay.

          >Definite mad reddit freak spouting the same buzzwords to fit in

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            GR as in Greater Rifts from Diablo 3. I only played Necro, which was alright. Don't know about Barbarian except that they had some sort of damage stack exploit that let them oneshot world bosses, but I only saw one barb so it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >gay that has never played D3 comes in a thread to argue with others and share his worthless opinion

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That describes most blizzard haters tbh

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No I don't look like a cat.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I played it on release and dropped the game and company until I got d2:r gifted. Not sure why you discard anyone's 'opinion' if they didn't throw about their glorified DLC.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how were endgame builds? do sets offer enough changes to builds to change playstyle? The only class i am interested in playing is a melee druid/not shapeshift.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sets did not exist in the beta, only legendaries and uniques. There were some cool modifiers, like an unique chest for necro that added shadow damage to bone storm that could potentially make for a shadow bone storm build, but in practice, a pure bone build still felt better. Overall, can't say too much on the variety of endgame builds since I only played the Necro, the beta had a limited amount of legendaries and uniques, and due to NDAs no one was sharing builds online.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How does melee feel, more like D2 or D3? I'm guessing attack rating is gone and will never come back. But does every attack that the barbarian has cleave everything? That was a huge change from D2 to D3, you never had to worry about your AoE vs your single target DPS in D3.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        From the very limited time I spent on Druid; no attack rating and in general attacks have some AoE, but I generally used Hurricane and Rabies to clear groups of enemies.

        Not sure why you clicked on me, but I'm not a nioh-fag.
        [...]
        Doesn't sound too bad from what you said so far. Do you have to run to each nightmare dungeon, or can you start it from where ever, like the mapping system in Path of Exile? Would probably be my only minor gripe to be forced to run over to each dungeon.

        You use a Sigil that determines the tier (pretty much GR level) and modifiers of the nightmare dungeon to activate, but you have to actually run to the dungeon entrance in the open world in order to enter it. Honestly, I would prefer an instant teleport (unless I completely missed such an option in the beta).

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I liked the Diablo 3 RMAH

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      me too, made my money back selling a few shit yellows and Blackthorns Breeches

      I really dont see a huge difference between launch RMAH and POE's trading site where you copy paste API links to whisper people "I want such-and-such map for my Atlas, here's one Blessed" or whatever orb currency now. D2 spam in 2003ish on was just fucking crazy and letting people sell their shit made sense since thats what they wanted to do to one another anyways.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        RMAH was shit on because it was the first instance of it and was in your face.
        PoE gets a free pass because they slowly introduced all that greed under people's noses
        D3 and PoE ruined ARPGs.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no it wont you stupid moron

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lol
    lmao

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reminds me of that Celtics fan that got a 2022 championship tattoo and then they lost in the finals.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As someone who doesn't have tattoos, some looked quite nice and didn't even 'reveal' that it is video game related.

      It didn't filter me because I've never played it. Stop typing like a retarded monkey.

      [...]
      Where's the getting called out part, shill?

      Completely mad and wasting his time on a thread of a genre he doesn't like. I'm calling it's a twenty-something gay who has nothing but outrage in his life going.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >thread about ARPGs
        >nioh fags interjecting their game
        I'm not even that anon but what is the point of bringing in souls shit in an ARPG thread?
        Nioh isn't Diablo, so why do we care?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because Nioh 1&2 has a super simple Diablo 2 loot system?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So does Borderlands, but that doesn't make it an ARPG.
            Go away.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're probably the type of gay that tells people asking for MMO recs to play MOBAs.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like the genre, just not your garbage game. Also nice one exposing yourself as a pathetic shill with your tattoo comment. You can stop projecting too. Little gay.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because Nioh 1&2 has a super simple Diablo 2 loot system?

        Wow, I can't believe I'm going to defend that visually impaired anon, but he is 100% right that Nioh is irrelevant to this discussion because it isn't a Diablo-Like/ARPG. It has no reason being even brought up in a thread discussing PoE/D4/Last Epoch and the like. They're not even in the same genre.

        Please go fuck off, Niohfag.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not sure why you clicked on me, but I'm not a nioh-fag.

          GR as in Greater Rifts from Diablo 3. I only played Necro, which was alright. Don't know about Barbarian except that they had some sort of damage stack exploit that let them oneshot world bosses, but I only saw one barb so it.

          Doesn't sound too bad from what you said so far. Do you have to run to each nightmare dungeon, or can you start it from where ever, like the mapping system in Path of Exile? Would probably be my only minor gripe to be forced to run over to each dungeon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus christ all of these are the exact same person.

        I played it on release and dropped the game and company until I got d2:r gifted. Not sure why you discard anyone's 'opinion' if they didn't throw about their glorified DLC.

        Shut up retard.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Mad
          lol

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Who are you quoting?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The bible

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >work at company
        >refuse tattoo
        >get fired

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >record scratch
        >you're probably wondering how I got here

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    GGG will drop POE2 beta on Exilecon.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Diablo 4 will be fun for the first two weeks and then die off like all other Blizzard games. PoE2 is probably going to be shit, everything they have done recently in PoE has been ultra cancer.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I will consider buying it if there are no browns on the cover

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i will play the one with a better story.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >storyfag

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rather PSO style game. I loved PSO1 and want something like it. I wish PSO stayed true to it's roots.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's pretty sad that no other company has taken up PSO's mantle. Sega is a shitshow these days.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Niohchads dab on fucking PoE and Diabo loser. Play a real game not cookie clicker.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am responding to this bait because I want to warn everyone to not feed this retard any further.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        t. conquered

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Damn that's a vintage meme

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >tfw nioh 1 beta threads
            comfy

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I miss the Nioh Alpha.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ever thinking in playing PoE2
    You are worse than fat bald "my vision" retard

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hope GGG re-learns how to make a good boss fight
    They haven't done a good one since Uber Elder and Uber Atziri

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you will play his game
    you will buy the supporter packs
    you will share in his vision

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      did he rehired that twitch streamer that called him baldo yet?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lol nah that gay is done
        you don't fuck with chris

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          did he rehired that twitch streamer that called him baldo yet?

          qrd?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            a schizo streamer called our lord and saviour Chris Wilson bald and said he should kill himself on stream because of balance changes
            schizo was then banned

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >two online-only SaaS
    into the trash it goes

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Will play both regardless

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this
      poe2 is free and I bought D4 by selling wow gold

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You know what you have to do

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stream that movie if you're so great

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >playing Di*blo
    >ever
    PoE and PoE2 all the way. For how much of a retard Chris and his vision is, it's still the best in its genre BY FAR
    That could of course change, but based on what Blizzard have shown of D4 so far I doubt it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like the words of an addict.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I play two weeks at most every league. I'm fine

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PoE fags be like: ay yoo this game be poppin fr fr

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a huge d2 nerd. I remember the first weeks of d3 you could buy a weapon vs 240 bucks. Then, the next day, as they didn't fucking test the game, changed how the attack speed worked and now that 240 bucks weapon was worth nothing LMAO

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PoE has trash, overdesigned, too many mechanics and skill system for its own good.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >le braindead piniata clicker
    TPP ARPGs like Souls are the next step for the ARPG genre, Blizzard just didn't get the memo

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Friendy reminder Quin could not beat Nioh because he was to shit for it. This is your high skilled PoE streamer.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Quin a shit. Literally one of the worst PoE streamers
      That being said, Nioh 2 is kino but they really aren't comparable games. You're only after set bonuses. It's more like WoW in that regard.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You mean D3

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Never played. Does it have set bonuses?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The entire game is literally based around set bonuses that give the flavor of the month skill 10000000% more damage

            >slow players down
            >don't slow down monsters
            That's where the problem lies. If he blanket nerfs it'd be fine but he is insistent on only pulling back on player power when monster power has been powercrept along with players

            >player power is 10000x higher than monsters
            >balance the equation
            >"NOOO YOU CAN'T DO THIS IT IS LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE GARBAGE HOW CAN I ZOOMZOOM IN THIS"

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >make monsters take 3000x longer to kill
              >they still drop the same loot
              If they want to make shitmobs relevant they need to give them actual drops.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              white mobs can 1 shot you in this game dont be an idiot

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nioh and PoE are two completely different types of games.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why are PoE fags so fragile?

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PoE is the antithesis of ARPGs, imagine purposely cutting drop rates to astronomically abysmal rates just so you can make a financial profit off player trades.

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    D4 lost my interest when I heard it was an open world thing with other players randomly popping in and EPIC WORLD MULTIPLAYER ONLY RAID BOSSES that'll be mandatory for progression
    Fuck those cunts, just let me play a single player game

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why do you suffer from social anxiety

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't want to play online
        I don't want to be FORCED to play with other people to progress my character
        I just want to enjoy a game by myself and then join with my friends when we all want to play together
        Stop forcing me to play with randoms

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    POE2 is literally the same game as "POE1". It's just a """"""huge"""""" expansion

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They could at least press the reset button on all the league mechanics that became permanent and reintroduce them alongside other shit as it makes sense. I don't think they're even doing that though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And that's a good thing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >an expansion to the campaign, something everybody hates and wants to get a skip for
      wow great update there chris

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't wait to play D4 with controller on my PC.
    If you haven't tried an arpg with a controller you're missing out. Such a chill and fun experience.

    is GGG even updating their console POE port?

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At this point I have 0 (zero) faith in both Blizzard and Chris Wilson. I don't believe Acti-Blizz won't monetize D4 to hell :^) and back, possibly making it even p2w, while PoE is already fucking people over with their horrid pricing of cosmetics.

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Man path of exile is so complex, man! So overwhelming! What do you mean I only follow my streamer approved build that has set everything for me in stone? I a-am not a gay. S-stop laughing. STOP
    Yeah, pathetic to be honest. No right to talk down any other game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks for proving the point

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Might as well call Ziz chud's poe university a real degree.Did you print that one out and put it on your wall? Holy shit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You should print it as a thanks for letting retards like you play the game

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The irony in this post is staggering!

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Do you even know what that word means or just throwing buzzwords?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just because you're incapable of making your own builds doesn't mean everyone else is a mouthbreathing retard

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >making your own builds
        >Trade
        >Please guys i need some leveling gear
        >Merc lab carry please
        >Please A10 kitava kill please guys
        >Finally i have 180 divines for starter gear time to enter red maps spooky

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          sounds like you're bad at making builds

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Unironically git gud
          You can do red maps in a tabula

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    moron

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://clips.twitch.tv/SaltyInventivePoultryBrainSlug-L2NY8noLDHq4Y379
    >your average PoE hardcore league experience
    lol
    lmao
    Nice game, cucks. D4 will be even worse.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what happened

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You tell me. Chris Wilson doesn't want to implement a death log/recap, so you can only guess.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >last epoch tells you what enemy and damage type killed you
          It seems like such a small thing why is it such an unreasonable request for PoE?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Chris Wilson's autism.
            >why is it such an unreasonable request for PoE?
            People have been asking for it for ages, and he just says "no".

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What part of Chris’ vision do you not understand?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All of it. Please explain.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because not knowing what killed you is part of the core Diabe-boike experience
            -Chris "Fat Bald Fuck" Wilson

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He logged out when the boss was doing a slam attack then zoned back in and didn't wait for it to go off, since the area is basically paused until you zone back in, a known bug (feature).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Diablo has never been about abusing log out macros to beat content literally designed to one shot you because the developers realize that players are so strong that there is nothing that can possibly kill them unless enemies or bosses randomly just oneshot you out of nowhere.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If they don't like logout macros they could, I don't know, maybe block their usage OR if they don't know how to do that they could start banning streamers that aren't hiding themselves with their usage. You know - to set an example.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          hardcore is literally designed around logout macro being a thing, streamers are free advertising for them. Removing / banning logout macro would kill the entire hardcore playerbase overnight

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    diablo iv looks like trash
    poe 2 seems to be in dev hell.
    poe 2 was suppose to come out 2020 btw

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      gee it's not like something happened in 2020 that halted production worldwide or anything

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        New Zealand was barely affected, and GGG outsources a lot of stuff to China. The company is badly managed and wastes time on pet projects that go nowhere.
        Where is the phone game by the way?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >been over 3 years since exilecon
          >not a peep about the mobile edition since
          >going on 2 years since last update for poo2
          >now has been 2 years of the worst leagues and state the game has been in since pre-2.0
          >"here have hard mode lmao"
          honestly it's impressive just how openly hostile and antagonistic ggg is to the playerbase.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Halted production of what exactly? Last time I've checked there were some delays but people actually kept working on vidya.

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The skills in this game have no impact at all. Sorcerer skills look like the weakest shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The beta burn build felt pretty satisfying once I got all of the burn procs and the 3% chance to cast meteor on burn tick. Lightning animations are shit, I can barely even tell when the skills were actually cast it and I didn't play frost enough to have an opinion.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All the basic skills look like ass and uninteresting, lightining effectes are the worst I've ever seen on a game, it looks like fucking plasma.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          When chinks can make better skill animations and effects you know shit is bad.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Right, basic skills aren't flashy at all. In fact, everything until you get down to the mastery skills is pretty underwhelming for every element. Even ball lightning in mastery looks like shit though, they really need to make every lightning effect thicker and brighter before release.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's incredible how such a core part of this game can be so fucking bad as it is, not even Diablo 3 had such shitty skills.

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >D1 fags want D4 to be D1 II
    >D2 fags want D4 to be D2 II
    >D3 fags want D4 to be D3 II
    You're all going to be disappointed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's in fact going to be Lost Ark II

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Blizzard or GGG
    Both are ratshit now.
    PoE2 is going to be just as shit, if not MORE shit than PoE currently is.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PoE2 is gonna be The Vision unleashed, without the baggage of PoE1 to keep it in check.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Globally enforced SSFHC, Ruthless, No stash, Staff only, Half skillpoints, No ascensions.
        THE VISION

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Globally enforced SSFHC, Ruthless, No stash, Staff only, Half skillpoints, No ascensions.
        THE VISION

        One month for completing the tutorial acts. The vision, I can feel it.

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why are people acting like poe and d4 target the same audience?
    poe is for sweaty autists that want to play gambling simulator that also happens to play like a 20 year old game

    d4 is for dudebros who want to drink beer and relax in the chair while mowing down hordes

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've been playing both D3 and PoE for years because I'm autistic and isometric games are comfy for me...

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why am I fighting knockoff Nurgle demons in Diablo4 instead of blizzard demons?

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Leave ARPGS to me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm hyped. If this one doesn't make it, the genre can be killed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >moron paladin
      >he has the best VA
      why?
      Also, 1.0 fucking never.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Complete dogshit. Even worse than D2. D3 is lightyears ahead.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        b8

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >last sleepoch
      kek

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Way to say that you are a poe addict

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's honestly astounding how much public opinion has fucking tanked on PoE. A few years back it was universally praised. Now my gaymur normie friends are parroting shit about the vision and saying it's trash. How the fuck did they manage to ruin it so bad?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They let the trade sim econ """gamers"""" dictate the balance of the game.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No they didn't. The problem is and has always been Chris, Neon, Rory and Jonathan. They're fucking morons. From the get go they decided to balance the way MTG does, in blocks, with certain builds being clearly the best, 2ish builds being middling and the rest being dogshit. They do this because "true balance is impossible, therefore we will simply make things fresh and new."

        I could write a fucking thesis and the problems with that retarded line of thinking, but the most important thing is that PoE is built on choice and customization. The style of balance they do actively kills choice and customization. There is no real choice if you are forced to play what they want you to play. There are a million other issues with the game but THAT one in particular has been poison in the well for the better part of 9 years and it's coming to a head because people are done playing the builds the top kiwi retards are trying to force them to play.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I could write a fucking thesis and the problems with that retarded line of thinking
          on the problems with that retarded line of thinking*

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only addicts are left praising it. Nobody likes seeing their builds getting deleted en masses, no buffs to underused or dead skills. One shots still a thing. It's fucking tiresome how they are actively working against you, and cater to streamers and neets exclusively. They forgot that is a fucking video game along the way.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The moment I was finally able to let go was when I heard a streamer unironically say "That's only like 200 hours of farming. That's not that bad."

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fuck man, you should have archived that snipped. I'm dying.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Support gem nerf
      Every build that was shit but playable became unplayable, Strong builds just lost a bit of power.
      >Archnemesis
      The final nail in the coffin, they gigabuffed all rare/magic mobs in the game into being raidboss tier scary, but at the same time nerfed the loot they drop into the fucking ground. I know they PARTIALLY undid archnemesis now, but the loot remains at rock bottom.
      >Crafting
      They pretty much gutted or removed any form of crafting that isn't either putting +10% resists on a mediocre item or for those top 0.1% who have currency coming out of their fucking assholes.
      >Nerf player power, Increase monster damage
      Every league mobs get faster and deal more damage, and yet players get slower and deal less damage. Now only a handful of builds can deal good damage and MAYBE survive. But you'll still randomly die every now and then to a random shitter mob that deals 50k phys damage on a single basic attack.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      someone got this mad idea that a silly little Diablogame isn't about clicking a button and having screens full of skeletons explode and drop piles of treasure, and that it isn't just a big power fantasy. and also for some reason that the integrity of the "economy" is more important than the game being fun. even when they made the trade experience insufferable and only fit for bots, on purpose.

      so they nerfed everything and made it a pain in the ass, believing this is some deeply mechanical game and that people should be struggling through the story campaign - even though the temporary 3 month league challenges suggest you should be farming uber maven 1000 times no problem.
      they nerfed skills based on usage even if they were just popular, but not provide any alternatives. they've even brainwashed the community into believing any fun skills are 'busted' and should be nerfed instead of just letting us have fun.
      if you dedicate your entire atlas to a certain type of content it's still sometimes barely even worth, like Ritual. anything you randomly get in a map without being fully specced is utterly worthless.
      they are "most proud" of their loot system even though you have to filter 99/100 items to make the game playable. they talked about overhauling it for years but only gone backwards. they introduced "lucky" talismans which were great then removed them. they introduced Harvest to make crafting actually approachable and fun, then nerfed it into the ground out of shame, whilst now also nerfing the already bullshit crafting system.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >How the fuck did they manage to ruin it so bad?
      By doing the exact thing they themselves have said multiple times not to do as a game developer. They gave the average player a completely ridiculous amount of power with harvest on top of all the powercreep that had been building, then gutted harvest while nerfing everything else, and finally archnemesis original implementation was where shit just went completely off the rails.

      Everyone always focuses on the loot problem with archnem but even ignoring that GGG was completely out of their fucking mind thinking people were going to be excited to log into the same game they've been playing for years with barely any new content but literally every single skill in the game feels worse.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was a perfectly coinciding shitstorm of building resentment on various smaller issues, archnemesis and nerfing player power.
      Which was obviously needed. Praise Chris and the Vision

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >chris wilson
    >jay wilson
    what did they mean by this?

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Be retarded kiwi
    >See that people optimize the campaign out of their playtime
    >Waste 6 gorrilion dollars making a brand new campaign that people will optimize out of their playtime

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Makes me laugh every time that they waste so much time and money on a new tutorial. You can bet your ass that they are going to slow you down in new ways you can't circumvent.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >be dev
      >see players are trivilizing content through unintended means
      >balance the game so that they actually have to play the game
      >get villianized
      whats the winning play?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The game will always be trivialized by the top players. There is absolutely no getting around this. The only thing they're doing now is ruining the game for everyone else.

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Diablo 4 will be the coup de grace to BFRs vision
    never thought I'd be more excited to play diablo than poe

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    someone needs to make an arpg with dialbo 1 combat scope and atmosphere but with battlerite type combat
    its time this genre innovate instead of just lootshit everywhere

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >combat scope
      what

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    D3 was bad
    PoE was bad
    There's no excitement

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