Did 6.4 save ffxiv?

Yes, it's incredibly easy.

aesthetically she wasn't the worst but her fight was even under crystal tower mechanics

oh frick off ivalice wasn't good either
i even just said aglaia was great, and in fact it's a frickload better than every fight in that shit series outside of like 2

>mechanics
>Ivalice

you seem to mistake 2 good voice actors for interesting gameplay

>but when it was new
do tell me how awful diet-ozma was

dun scaith puts me to sleep outside of the first boss
i hardly remember mhach tbh

don't see how that's relevant to my post

>he doesn't want a 12000 year old hebe wife

la criatura
I much prefer nymeia

I missed Ishikawa halfway through EW when we moved past engaging and emotional Final Days drama to chase a moronic fanservice bukkake in a time loop that obliterated every ounce of intrigue and complexity the Ancients could've had.

>intrigue and complexity
almost all of which would have already been wiped during shadowbringers if you paid attention to sidequest and npc dialogue in amaurot

there were already allusions to them being creatively barren, emotionally moronic and sitting with their thumbs up their asses while the planet burned in shadowbringers, elpis and beyond mostly just followed up on that

>while it hammers every aspect of their society into your brain removes intrigue.
this isn't what happened but I'm sorry you're stupid enough to think that

the amaroutines were morons since shb
you even had them talking about if they should bother to even help the people affected by the final days since it wasn't affecting them personally (yet)

>Sunders the entire world not because it's the right thing to do or because she has a plan to ward off the forces that assail Etheirys, but because a midget came from the future to tell her to do it

>things could've been just fine
For another generation or two until the Ancients ran out of things to accomplish and collectively self-terminated

>it's wrong to do with your life what you want
You're the type of person that would keep your parents alive at all costs even if they were begging you to let them die.

You mean the people that only became crazy after Meteion fricked them over?

>and Meteion didn't introduce anything but a question.
are we going to start pretending that doesn't matter now?
but anyway the nibiruns were fine, do your tribe quests they got over it with some coffee and the eas telling them they were morons

The nibiruns got cheered up by some coffee and the power of friendship, and they only started killing themselves after twitter asked them what they were doing with their life.

>*and a second chance at life in an environment suffused with hopium, of which they were the only real contrary voice
yea the power of friendship, like I said (which is what dynamis is, anyway)
meteion was a dyanmis battery and pushed them over the edge to kill themselves, then you use dynamis to tell them to chill out

>She didn't do shit, she just did shit
I know this is expecting a bit much to expect some basic emotional literacy on Ganker but you do understand that "just asking a question" can set someone off, right?

>No, asking a culture a question that is completely innocuous and even a little stupid is not a reasonable cause for planet-scale suicide
It is not a reasonable cause for an emotionally well adjusted people, but that is not what they were. Saying she "did nothing" is lying, though.

Yes, she asked a question, which set them off. They were far from "fine" but they weren't killing themselves until she set them off.
An example you COULD use would be the ea, who decided that suicide would be better than eternal life since ther was no "true" eternal life due to the heath death of the universe (and they assumed there's no way around that).
This isn't getting into the topic of the nibiruns=ancients and if they would go full crazy later on, just specifically on what meteion did to the nibiruns.

>The recreated beings in Ultima Thule count for nothing because they're all just made of Dynamis,
(EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER)
Go do your Omicron quests

>they're absolutely not
(EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER)

is that shit inside of it?

looks like doodoo s

By all means, don't let people have any agency and allow them to do what they feel is best for themselves.

What are you implying? It is wrong for people to end their existence if they feel there is no longer any reason to live? Who are you to say they must continue to suffer existence if it is nothing but pain to them?

>it is wrong
>i will not debate the issue
Even Varis debated the savages.

Then I guess the smart thing to do when you're wrong is to not debate.

>my master plan against the ascians? heh I'm going to do exactly what they want.

>You are going to die in x amount of time maybe
>That's okay though because I can save you from that
>By killing you and everyone else now so that you don't die in x amount of time

>She tried. Even as the world was turning into shit, she was outright begging the homosexuals in Amaurot to just man up and accept that suffering is a part of life.
How come everytime someone points out that Venat's behaviour can only really be described as deranged, some moron butts in with an imaginary scenario he states as fact?

That's literally a cutscene in the game you dumb frick.

That new life didn't include ancients themselves, they were the ones to save and bring it back in the first place, it was within their right to sacrifice it to bring back actual lives

>It literally wasn't.
It quite literally was.
No, lives of plants and animals don't matter more than lives of actual people. Now do the world a favor, spare everyone your hippie bullshit and have a nice day.

>There are other sentient races in the ancient world than amaurotines you fricking spastic.
There are none, you fanfic writing moron.

Learning about and interracting with other amaurotians across the fricking planet. You know, kind of how WoL does it thoughout the story.
And no, you don't get to hide behind hypotheticals and imaginary bullshit.
Actual evidence that there were other sentient races on Eitherys before hydaelyn split everyone. From the game.
Now.

Actual. Evidence. From. The. Game.
Black person.

The tales from the shadows make no mention of other races. Only of other people living outside the city of Amaurot. Whom were all Ancients.
Emet explains to you how different races came about as a result of the sundering in ShB you actual cretin.

>The tales from the shadows make no mention of other races. Only of other people living outside the city of Amaurot. Whom were all Ancients.
Then my point is still valid you fricking moron since only the ones living in amaurot decided to summon zodiark and they were prepared to sacrifice all the other """ancients""" living on the rest of the planet to bring their friends back without giving them a say. Fricking checkmate b***h, have a nice day.

Only amaurotines had a hand in summoning and utilizing zodiark. The convocation didn't rule the entire planet you dense frick.

>It's the "pre-sundering Eitherys was totally populated by many races even though there's no mention of them at any point in the game" dipshit again

>Actual. Evidence. From. The. Game.
It's not in the game you illiterate monkey, or are you going to go full moron and pretend those aren't canon?

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/tales_from_the_shadows/sidestory_07/#sidestory_07
Here's the story.
Find the exact quote that even remotely implies there are other races beside the ancients.
Go ahead, try to spin a single line from it and put on display for everyone just how deluded you are.

>The original story
Son, the original story would not have been original if you had not gone back in time and altered it. Or rather, the original story would have been something else because the story you're recounting is the altered story that resulted from your time travel.

G'raha Tia's alternate timeline only goes back as far as G'raha remembers. While it would make sense the rest of the history of his timeline is the same, you can't exactly say that. For example, if the WoL did not go back in time to tell Venat the future, then she DID have agency and would've nonetheless rebel against the Zodiark faction. However, that means going back in time and telling everyone the future did absolutely nothing to alter the past and as we all know, going back into the past either changes the future or is necessary to produce the future the time traveler came from.

And Elidibus only remembers you cause you went back in time. He would not have remembered you if you did not go back in time. And By His Bootstraps has nothing to do with traveling back into the past. It has everything to do with a closed loop. Which is what happens when the WoL travels back in time, not what would happen if the WoL did not travel back in time.

That's not the point. You assume Zodiark would've happened originally even though the WoL was the reason why Emet, Hythlo and Hermes got their memories of Metion erased. The WoL's present is also why Venat kept the future a secret. You're not going back far enough in the disruption of the timeline.

Why wouldn't have Emet, Hythlo and Venat chased Hermes down his dungeon fighting off monsters and then himself in a pitched battle that required 4 persons with only the three of them result in the exact same events that would lead to Emet, Hythlo and Hermes getting their memories erased but not Venat? I think you don't understand how alternate potential timelines work or how the statue quo is always present in a closed time loop.

Anon that literally is the fricking point. In G'raha's timeline the WoL fricking dies before he can go back in time. This means that Venat's rebellion and the sundering would have happened whether we went back or not.

That means that there is no closed time loop in the prime timeline and the WoL going back in time, telling everyone their future, convincing Venat to search out the past of Herme's research with Meteion had ZERO impact on any events in Elpis. That's a bit hard to believe. That's more like that movie series Final Destination where the cast can NEVER escape their deaths no matter what they do and what they know of their future.

If that is the nature of the world of Etheirys, then nothing the WoL or anyone else does matters because the result will always be the same.

Zodiark was only summoned because the Ancients did not know they were under a Dynamis attack from the Endsinger. Had they know that, they could've devised a way to address the core cause of the Final Days instead of producing the Zodiark which dealt only with its symptoms.

let's say some alien visitors come to etheyris, they are capable of interstellar travel and somehow seem unaffected by meteion's influence
well, more like one alien comes with many children
would those aliens be good candidates to go fight meteion, assuming you somehow got her exact location?

ok so let's say humans can create a certain type of ward or charm that protects against meteion's influence as well as tempering
however they discover that the charm is made out of the material of a certain creature
a creature capable of interstellar travel and that has been on etheyris for millennia

ok why the frick was midgardsormr not employed by venat to actually strike at the heart of the problem and was instead left to see his children be captured, tortured, killed, sent to the void and turned into moons by the ascians, who weren't even the real enemy

midgardsormr isn't strong enough to actually solve that, that homie got merced by a big ceruleum explosion. his immediate daughter azdaja is corrupted by the void mere seconds after a protective barrier is brought down and she wasn't in the void for very long before exhaustion and corruption settled in

Because Venat was an ancient and would've have fricking died trying since she can't manipulate dynamis you dialogue skipping moron. Even Midgardsormr is powerless against the endsinger.

ah ok so the solution is to keep them around in etheyris so they get slaughtered by the allagan empire (created by the ascians)
to get slaughtered by the dragonsong war (orchestratedd by the ascians)
even thugh they were the first actual hope to actually solve the problem since millennia

if someone were to tell hraesvelgr that there was a tracker on the bird for 13000 years I doubt he will take it as well as vrtra

midgardsormr isn't strong enough to actually solve that, that homie got merced by a big ceruleum explosion. his immediate daughter azdaja is corrupted by the void mere seconds after a protective barrier is brought down and she wasn't in the void for very long before exhaustion and corruption settled in

jesus christ i shouldn't need to tell you to watch *this patch's* events again

what part of the fricking barrier keeping her from turning did you miss, she panics the moment it goes down and golbez is laughing maniacally about what it'll do to her

she would've been done much earlier if Golbez didn't offer her a deal

>she can't manipulate dynamis
Ancients can manipulate dynamis. That's literally what magic is.

>Ancients can manipulate dynamis. That's literally what magic is.
Did you just start playing this game fricking yesterday?

>Magic is aether, dynamis is a wholly different form.
Magic is aether+dynamis. This is literally the basis for the pajeetiphants theorizing dynamis exists, because they propose some force must act as the mechanism for how aether can be manipulated by people to create magical effects.

Why the frick do cutscene skippers always accuse others of skipping cutscenes?

>The only dynamis utilization we are capable of is fricking limit breaks
That's not it either, limit breaks are also aether.
Nothing in WoL's arsenal uses dynamis.

No. It doesn't. That's a lie you've read here and for some insane reason keep on regurgitating.

Did you miss the Endsinger literally saying that you used Dynamis to survive the fight against her?

That the three Ancient trusts get a unique buff showing they're using a limit break that no other trust in the game uses, implying something is out of the ordinary for them?

The buff is pretty blatantly noncanon, and only there to allow them as Trusts to execute LBs. They're the only Trust characters in the entire game that use that "Limit Breaker" buff.

>The ancients don't use existing LBs
The webm quite literally has her using ranged LB.
So much for the LBs are totally dynamis bullshit.

It exists to piss you off.

You evidently are.

No bro... it's like uh... yeah he totally developed ability to use dynamis because uh.....
AIIIEEEEE VENAT SAVE ME

Lbs were aether until they decided they weren't in 6.0 because they can't stop themselves from retconning stuffs

It's actually embarrassing that it took this long for someone to clock that in.

>trying to use actual evidence in xiv threads
lmao this guy

>Ancients can manipulate dynamis. That's literally what magic is.
Did you just start playing this game fricking yesterday?

You are correct! You see, Venat and her faction created Hydaely which sundered the Ancients into the Sundered. The WoL, the Scions, etc are all products of the Ancients. Hydaelyn created beings able to defeat Meteion. But only because Venat was aware of the true threat to Etheirys.

No problem! Since time flowed different on the various shards created from the sundering, that means they were not uniform and were byproducts of the sundering process. A byproduct that could be manipulated. Sacrifice 25% of the Ancient population on a single shard with the time flow sped up and you can produce as many WoLs as you like.

Ah, you're still not going back far enough. Once Venat, Emet and Hythlo discovered the truth of the matter with Hermes and Meteion, they could've avoided memory erasure and gone to the Convocation before the Final Days had begun. Still whole, 25% would've been a much smaller sacrifice for their society than what they would end up doing with Zodiark.

Oh, fine. 25% of Amourot.

The WoL went back in time and played an integral role in the events in Elpis that would lead to the circumstances resulting in the creation of Zodiark and Hydaelyn. You tried your best NOT to inform the past of the future for fear of altering the future, your present. It was clear what the stakes were for going back in time and being part of the team that would end up battling Hermes for the information that you needed. That's hardly a non-intervention in the past. The WoL clearly persisted in altering the past.

However, if you believe there was ZERO impact in what the WoL did and that the G'raha timeline also unfolded with the exact same results, then both timelines arrived at the same events regardless of the actions the WoL took. Which means that the WoL could have gone back in time, killed everyone there, and things would've been the same. Because clearly, the impact of the WoL is nonexistent.

That's the problem with this idea that the WoL had ZERO impact. It's then possible to concoct any sort of scenario for the WoL to perform in the past and no matter how outrageous, it should all end up the same. That's just not how time travel works.

But there's a problem with G'raha's timeline. It is the only example of an alternative timeline. If the death of the WoL can cause a split in timelines, then the WoL's actions in the past should also as well. In the case of the prime timeline, it worked out as a closed loop, but in the case of G'raha Tia's timeline, it should, as you say, cause an irreparable time paradox.

And that may have very well happened. As you may recall, we did not learn about Alt Hist G'raha until he pulled us into the 1st. Before that, we had no idea he and his timeline existed. As far as we know, the death of the WoL created not only G'raha's timeline, but also others. In fact, there's the possibility there are infinite timelines branching from every point in history if we are to make sense of the G'raha's timeline persisting.

Had you not gone back in time, their memories wouldn't have been wiped and Venat rebelling is only if the Zodiark faction came into being.

And, technically, in a branching timeline scenario, the prime timeline WoL went back in time to produce the past G'raha Tia's timeline was based on. However, when the time came for G'raha Tia's WoL to go back in time didn't happen, another split occurs at a point in Elpis 12,000 years ago. That timeline is the product of what happened in G'raha Tia's alternate timeline future.

I think the only issue with the whole time travel thing is managing the alternative timeline with a closed loop. Elpis is clearly the Alexander raids storyline recycled, but it doesn't really stand up to scrutiny with the existence of G'raha Tia's timeline. That said, I think I did a fairly good job of it.

>Which it would have, as a result of the final days.
It doesn't work because the devs literally said that Emet and co only survived because Venat specifically made the Sundering in a way that allowed them to survive, because she knew they needed to do everything they end up doing in the future. Which can't happen if she has no foreknowledge of the future.

Also Pandaemonium can't happen without Azem's foreknowledge and WoL's meddling either, meaning Lahabrea and Elidibus would probably both be dead.

I demand lorelets to catch up.

Anon that literally is the fricking point. In G'raha's timeline the WoL fricking dies before he can go back in time. This means that Venat's rebellion and the sundering would have happened whether we went back or not.

how did you miss the entire point of the ancients being on the path of self destruction via apathy?
thats the entire point of the last phase of the Endsinger dungeon, did you think Ra-la was just there to look pretty?
>There was a time when we yearned to explore the heavens, found purpose in the hope of unveiling life's mysteries. A dream shattered when we reached enlightenment, and found it empty. There was a time when we believed in our legacy, thought ourselves marking a worthy path our successors might follow. Efforts rendered futile when we discovered the keys to paradise and immortality. As individuals we struggled to know what was right, yet in today's perfect unity there is naught left to question. We are infinity constricted by the finite, but no more─Ra-la shall grant us the mercy of annihilation.
if Venat doesn't sunder the world, that is how the ancients end.

You've finally realized. You were the real villain.

>He doesn't let his wol actually sleep when he logs out and just has them stand in the void
cringe
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You do kraut boats instead of JP. Or at least that's what I've always seen. I actually caught my last blue fish on a full boat I slept through the first boat for, got on the late one and managed to get coral manta after a good few tries. The new ones look nice though I'm disappointed we don't have The Big One. Maybe if they add more routes since there's just the 2

forgot picture, but yeah I have no use for the bed in the inn room.

I slept in on patch day, I admit.

oh yea if you're on EU I would assume german gets used legitimately a lot

works for anything that queues I think
all the "Catch 50 of a specific fish" things are done on german boats, and a good few blue fish too

Devout anti-coomers are liars and A-logs

You think miqos being bawds started with 14? There was unironically more than a fair few instances of e-gf drama with mithra and erp, plus selling "used goods"

If only it was. SE needs to ban every single MARE homosexual in existence.

I didn't make the assumption. I said it'd be interesting to see what they do now. I was even surprised they didn't have an Ascian that was sympathetic to us in EW and thought Venat did the right thing. I guess the Watcher is sort of like that, though.

Wish we got to see what Galuf looked like in XIV
Loved that homie in FFV

we see most of him though

>We have no reason to believe that Gaius wasn't successful in killing Altima and Deudalaphon, because he's shown with their masks and we haven't heard from them since
He didn't have the means to properly kill an Ascian and the devs themselves said there was doubt as to whether he really killed them.
>Emmerololth dies pretty fricking decisively in Eureka, and I think her showing up in a cutscene that's later chronologically but takes place in an earlier patch is just a continuity error.
More likely they just uplifted another Ememerololth shard.

Wish we got to see what Galuf looked like in XIV
Loved that homie in FFV

You can see him from behind in the Eureka quests.

>We have no reason to believe that Gaius wasn't successful in killing Altima and Deudalaphon,
By "no reason" do you mean "every reason"? Gaius literally has no capability to actually kill them, the guy can't even manipulate aether. It took WoL+white auracite just to kill a normal sharded one before.
>is just a continuity error.
I agree, but it is what we actually see in the game.

Yeah, it's possible they survived, but until they show up again I'm just going to assume Gaius had some means to aether-vore them that we weren't told about because they've never really been mentioned by name. He may not be able to manipulate aether, but he uses magitek and had two buddies along. Ardbert and Thordan were also able to perma-kill Ascians without auracite, and the WoL just blasted Emet-Selch's ass with light aether, so auracite's not the only method. Nabriales is the only Ascian that died because of auracite, and every other one had some other convenient means to

If they show back up it won't be an ass-pull, certainly, but it's just an example of how utterly fricked the Convocation is, because they have at best four living members.

Not only did igeyorhm also die of auracite but we blasted Emet full of auracite before shooting the beam. It is the only way.
Thordan's sword is made of auracite and Ardbert didn't actually kill Mitron.

The auracite isn't necessary at all, it's just the method the Scions settled on as the best way because it lets you hold the Ascian in place and also lets you channel enough aether to booty-blast them. You can also just aether-vore the Ascian.

>Thordan's sword is made of auracite
[CITATION NEEDED]

>Thordan's sword is made of auracite
Thordan's sword is made from Haldrath's corpse with a dragon eye melded into it. He didn't kill Lahabrea because of auracite, he just ate him. It was a repeat of what they showed you with Leviathan eating the Sahagin priest who had become an Ascian.

Did Gaius know how ascians worked? Maybe he "killed one" without killing it and just took the mask as a trophy thinking he'd succeeded

killing them is easy
making sure they stay dead isn't

No.
They're never going to address it either, it's going to be a dropped plot point for another few years until Square runs out of ideas again and pretends they'd planned to bring them back all along.

Stormblood would have been that, then they realized that would have been an awful fricking expansion so they left ala mhiggers in 5 minutes and went to an actually good place but then they still had to shove in that shit to give it any reason, and even then it ended up with a laughing stock of a story that got a dude kicked out of writing it was so bad.

Stormblood not being about Garleans is probably the most comically moronic take I've heard in any XIV thread

It's certainly got the most of them in it past ARR, that's true.

You're moronic. They sacrificed AMAUROTINES and AMAUROTINES ONLY to summon Zodiark and restore the planet. They didn't sacrifice anyone but AMAUROTINES. It doesn't fricking matter if the rest of the people on the planet are ancients or fricking crab people as far as my point is concerned. I'm dropping my point that they were "other races" simply to humor you because you're right, nothing we have DOES mention other "races" but it DOES mention other people aside from AMAUROTINES. People who WEREN'T sacrificed to summon Zodiark, people who had NO part in that plot. People the convocation had no sway over and didn't even care about outside of Azem (as evidenced by the volcano story). These people were going to be sacrificed to bring back amaurotines. That is my point. Whether they were another race or not is irrelevant in relation to this.

>Sacrificing innocent people and not giving them a say in the matter to bring back people who willingly sacrificed themselves
If you think this is a correct and moral choice you're a genuine sociopath. That is fricking genocide. They saved the planet with their sacrifice but if they're making other people's lives foot the bill for that sacrifice, it's no longer a sacrifice. It's genocide.

>Just devolved into repeating himself like a child because his fanfiction doesn't mesh with the actual story
lmao

>No argument
I accept your concession. I repeated myself because apparently you're way too fricking stupid to understand a simple point.

>an evil prostitute decided to wipe out her race on a whim
You're genuinely moronic if you think Venat is written to be evil and make us hate her. I'm done with you.

Go back to your Discord, Zodiark Trancer.

They wouldn't have made the final cutscenes with Hydaelyn so heartfelt if we were meant to hate her for what she did. You're literally making up fanfiction.

Dude it's a story, not real people with real motives. Authors create stories with intention behind characterization, you choosing to interpret it differently doesn't change that initial characterization or the intent of the author. You can hate Venat all you fricking want, it doesn't change the fact that she was written to be selfless and altruistic. How you take her actions has zero relation to the actual story. I don't know how you can be this stupid. I've read many a story where I hated characters or hated what they did, but that doesn't change how it was written or the intent of the author, it just means I hate the character and the story. Fricking simple as.

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ah ok so the solution is to keep them around in etheyris so they get slaughtered by the allagan empire (created by the ascians)
to get slaughtered by the dragonsong war (orchestratedd by the ascians)
even thugh they were the first actual hope to actually solve the problem since millennia

if someone were to tell hraesvelgr that there was a tracker on the bird for 13000 years I doubt he will take it as well as vrtra

What the frick are you even talking about anymore? It wouldn't matter if the dragons knew about Meteion, they couldn't have stopped her. If Hydaelyn thought Midgardsormr and his kids could've stopped Meteion, she would've sent him to do so when he arrived on Etheirys.

>No argument
I accept your concession.

Something that happened after Venat fricked everything over for everyone that ever lived.
The actual point to bring up would be Emetselch going on an evil rant how he'll sacrifice everyone on the planet to bring back the ancients right before Amaurot dungeon, funny how the "lore experts" trying to justify venat never bring it up.
And even then it's a unique scenario because everyone's already sundered and turned into other races that are non-ancients.

As I mentioned, because genocide was already done upon them and so kids gloves were off.
Or fixing the sundering requires the newly created races to die in order to recycle their souls.
Or because they were okay with genocide.
You can pick and choose after the sundering because it was a different scenario from before the sundering.
But before the sundering, there's no actual evidence in game *at all* that they were planning anything like that for the 3rd sacrifice.
Especially since hythloadaeus's dialogue mentions them waiting for the planet to regain its energy for it to be sacrificed which doesn't exactly make sense with people.

>they're going to have to kill something to cycle the souls into zodiark to get back 75% of the city of amaurot
See, this is your problem, because you want an immediate result.
No they don't and no, they weren't planning on that. You can read the exact dialogue and their exact plan here

For anyone concerned, this is what he's talking about and what he considers undeniable proof that they were going to sacrifice "other races" or other ancients.

and see that what they were going for required basically farming the planet for energy which again can't really be done with a race of people that live for hundreds if not thousands of years at a time.
>there is no possible argument to be made that they weren't going to commit some kind of mass killing to cycle souls out of zodiark before the sundering
No, there's arguments being made about them not going to commit some kind of mass killing to cycle souls out of zodiark basically every thread and every thread you plug your ears because it goes against the dogma.

>No argument
Maybe people really are right about anons trying to defend venat being actual idiots.

>You pointed me to the proof that they weren't going to sacrifice lives and I agree with the fact that this proves they weren't going to sacrifice lives
>But I will still keep saying that they were going to sacrifice lives because I am way too invested in this to lose (this matters to me more than actually finding out what happened in the story)
There are no words for how stupid you people are. Now post whichever "no u" damage control canned response that will keep you from crying yourself to sleep tonight. I am done.

>it takes 8 separate life-sustaining planets worth of aether to get zodiark back into good enough shape that he can break out of his seal
No, it takes 8 separate shards of the same planet that's been split into 14 pieces. It's disingenuous to claim that they took 8 whole planets for that because that's not what really happens.

All 8 were aetherically less dense. The fact that you are trying to lie about this proves just how little venatgays care about being accurate to the story.

You actual clown.
You inbred imbecile.
Do you not understand that Hydaelyn sundered the planet into 14 smaller pieces or does your life actually depend on peddling lies about this topic?

Yes, it is relevant to the actual argument being made of zodiark needing 8 shards to be able to make a return. Those shards holding lives on it is inconsequential to this. Stop sniffing glue and pay attention.

>All of them had unique geology
This patch alone proves you wrong though? Y'shtola blatantly states that all the shards are remarkably similar in geology. Emet himself also stated that Hydaelyn's ability to sunder creates perfect clones both diminished in ability. You're actually making up headcanon.

>Black person. Venat didn't copy Eitherys 14 times, she split it into 14 pieces. Do you actually not get that?
Respond to what I said you cum gargling fricking lunatic. You don't need to be as dense in aether to support life as Eitherys was. Eitherys is not the only planet in XIV's universe. Venat split the planet into 14 that were all perfectly capable of supporting life. It is not arguable that the Ascians bringing shards together hoovered up 7 planets' worth of life.

>another half of our race
does this not imply there were other races? why would an ancient population have the concept of race if they were the only sentient population?

This literally confirms he is correct