Did Toby Fox stole songs?

Newfag and undertale fan here, I heard that Toby Fox stole melodies from other songs. Prove it.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He stole character designs

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe is just inspiration, that's like saying Mickey Mouse is a copy of Oswald

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Good point anon.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      who dis

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sariel, the Angel of Death from Touhou 1.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sariel, the Angel of Death from Touhou 1.

      Does this man have no shame

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sans and Papyrus are The Judge and Dedan from OFF.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        plagiarism is like a bed of nails
        one nail and you're in trouble. a thousand nails and you're fine. everyone who's worked in a creative industry will tell you that.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This. Rip one detail off, and you're a thief. Rip them all off, and it's a homage.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          True

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He didn't. There is some two second track that he said was done completely with premade effects, but he definitely never stole anything.

      I don't see any proof he didn't steal it, please make better posts

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        he did steal music chud, i have a gut feeling

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He didn't. There is some two second track that he said was done completely with premade effects, but he definitely never stole anything.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They were most likely talking about him re-using his own melodies in a lot of tracks, which most educated people know is called a "leitmotif".

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He didn't. There is some two second track that he said was done completely with premade effects, but he definitely never stole anything.

      No.

      I was asking because I found this copypasta

      >he doesn't know

      Esta es megalovania si le subis la velocidad x2

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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcF2LOaLgA0[Open]
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      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        By God Forsaken is way too accurate lol

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Only the intro, maybe is just a coincidence

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        And this one

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        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

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          I was asking because I found this copypasta

          >he doesn't know

          Esta es megalovania si le subis la velocidad x2

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          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcF2LOaLgA0[Open]
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1qjt_1geiI[Open]
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o251comtNfk[Open]

          >anon learns about chord progression
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aezSL_GvZA
          I guess you also think all anime music is plagiarized from Rick Astley, huh?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >chord progression
            >chord progression
            >chord progression
            Megalovania wasn't similar in chord progression, but main melody.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              no its isnt, they just both have riffs descending down the blues scale

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >songs sound vaguely similar and have similar chord progression
        >toby fox stole the songs
        These two things are not the same, fucking retard.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm OP, anon. I think is all just similar, not stolen like the other anon

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Can you define what a stolen song looks/sounds like

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not that anon but I do not believe there is a clear line.
            Melody, arrangement, lyrics, cord progression.
            There is so much you could rip off and most of the time it is more of a feeling of "this is going too far" which might depend on who you ask
            also if you are into pop music often times there are the same producers behind these artists

            Here is an example of something that is definitely over the line for me

            But fuck I don't know if everyone into music would even agree. A quick google search shows there was a court case but they were not found guilty of plagiarism so apparently I am the dummy.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I personally think Toby Fox was just inspired

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                yeah none of the examples here really go too far

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous
            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              That sounds less egregious than most of the Toby examples

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        None of them come close to ripoff

        Some could be inspiration and others could be just trying to closely fit a theme and be very generic
        it can also be a coincidence

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >megalomania got removed
        Fuck SE

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I’m not going to go through all this shit.
        Cope indie fags, your game sucked ass.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          arrest sperg, your taste sucked tho.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >evading the subject

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ain’t evading shit. I ain’t listening to 5-10 links over and over again. I’m not getting paid to look for it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              The tl;dl is that at worst there's some similar notes, but the songs are pretty different apart from that

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        like a good garden gnome, toby knew exactly what to steal to become popular
        i tip my hat to the gay, he got even to the pope

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        0/10

        Glad to know the retards on Ganker can still manage to get even dumber than I ever thought possible.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >one man finds great success due to his own merits with a dash of luck and produces something that resonates with a lot of people
    >retard still seething

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >undertale fan
    more like... underage fag

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, Undertale was released in 2015. Unless they were 11 years old when they first saw it, chances are they're actually 18+. Time flies, don't it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        oh right, i forgot this game didnt gain any new fans since 2015

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The vast majority of people got swept in that time so mostly, yeah. Even if he was underage, he ain't being a fag anyways and still pretty big chances for higher age, so fuck it, higher quality OP and thread than the average shit you see in this place.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Toby Fox supports guilt regardless of innocence so fuck his music stealing ass. Maybe he will make another game defending literal child murderers and I'll get to hear from Zoomies and cancerous E-Celebs how much of a genius he is again. have a nice day gays.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Undertale is a Christian game. Toby supports the idea of forgiveness and second chances, not killing children.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Toby Fox is a godless degenerate

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Undyne’s theme is stolen, it’s some metal song from 2003 or so.
    Iirc Metaton’s theme is stolen.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only the intro is a coincidence, the rest is not

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You got BTFO'ed in the Live A Alive thread and made this one looking for more? God, you're pathetic.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What the fuck are you talking about anon

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is like the third
      >Toby is stealing everything REEEEEEE
      thread today

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        OP here, I only wanted to read your arguments about it instead of denying everything without listening. I only made this thread

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This topic has been done to death. We all know you're full of shit

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know what you want me to say, have a nice day I guess

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This sounds way too similar , toby must've gotten inspiration or something

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yasunori Mitsuda stole songs and ideas from Joe Hisaishi.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    dear anonymous youtube video comparison poster,
    a lot of the videos youve linked have been taken town.
    - love, anonymous

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Being inspired is not the same as "stealing a song"

    This isn't like George Harrison getting sued for "My Sweet Lord" sounding too much like "Be My Baby".

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He stole songs from others and also from himself.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stealing is fine as long as no one notices

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It might not have been outright theft but relying this much on existing melodies and making leitmotifs out of them certainly takes a lot of his acclaim as a composer

    It's like finding out your favorite artist traces over 3D models and that all his original characters are actually old obscure characters changed up slightly, it's all legal and moral but definitely deflates the skill and creativity you thought they had

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe it does for you

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No it does that objectively, but you might not consider it as such due to personal bias.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think you know what that word means

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think you do

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You might consider it due to your personal bias

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Objective reality doesn't care about your personal bias

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Indeed, that's why it doesn't objectively do it

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It objectively does though
                >making original compositions and making original compositions are the same thing
                >they are objectively the same

                >making original compositions and taking existing compositions are objectively not the same thing
                >you might consider them the same due to personal bias

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He made original compositions

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                By being similar to existing melodies and compositions, they are by definition not original, I'm sorry your personal bias is at odds with reality

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Having a few similar notes =/= not original

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sounding like existing music =/= original

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      While I don't think Toby Fox stole songs I think he should've give credit to the original authors for inspiring him. If not that would be hypocrisy

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That has nothing to do with what he's talking about in that image though. It was about Matpat using other people's games for garden gnometube bucks with zero credit and instead of realizing his capacity to help the indie devs he's using for clicks he doubled down and pissed and cried so bad even Toby had to break character to tell him off. You should really include full context for things if you're basing your entire argument on it or it makes you look like you're intentionally obfuscating information.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Toby Fox is using other people's music for a game with zero credit and instead of realizing his capacity to help the original authors and the music he's using for money he looks away while everyone kneels down at his game. Cope

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Okay well if you're just going to ignore whatever I say I'll just leave you with a nice picture of a duck and you can maybe go do your laundry or something. Something productive instead of whatever this is. Have a nice day.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              How is he ignoring what you're saying? He directly addressed it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Okay well if you're just going to ignore whatever I say I'll just leave you with a nice picture of a duck and UGHK

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Toby has literally already said that his biggest inspirations are touhou and Earthbound. Like he blatantly openly says this.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          What about everything else?

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's ok to steal as long as you have a strong fanbase to protect you and that's filled filled with uncultured retards.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    some schizo will tell you about stealing spongebob songs but that's about it

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How's the game called

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