Some people actually got stuck at this part.
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Haha, surely this would never happen to anyone on this board
where's that? I kept getting burnt by the dragon at the start
Anon... You know the dragon doesn't actually focus on you in the beginning? You can avoid it's fire breath easily.
How? There's like 27 unique combinations, you can just brute force that shit if you're moron.
I did this unironically and dropped the game shortly after finding out about the claw
In dishonored 2 theres a safe in each level with a 3 digit combination, and a solution hidden somewhere nearby. There was a safe in a locksmith's home that I was trying to get into and I couldn't find the clue so I said frick it, 999 combinations, would really only take a few minutes to crack it, so I got to it and barely a minute later the safe was open. The locksmith's safe combination was 123, it made me lol.
that's weird considering it's meant as a way to keep undead inside rather than it being a puzzle to prevent people from going inside
I just brute forced it
Idk how. You just go from smallest to biggest.
i did it 1st try 😀
I thought it was trial and error and didn't discover you could manipulate the claws in the inventory until probably 50 hours in.
>didn't discover you could manipulate the claws in the inventory
This is the most likely reason to struggle with the puzzle.
>missed out on the skyrim gameplay reveal trailer that showcased you could rotate the claw
>completely skipped that dark elfs journal that tells you to look at the back of the claw
Zoom Zoom
>some
A lot, probably. It was fricking bullshit.
Let's be fair, for some of us it was our first time having a puzzle this shit, one will expect something more... "puzzling"
This. I tried to look for the solution in the room because the same symbols could be found on the walls
How much of a fricking casual can you possibly be on this piss easy baby game? Go play candy crush.
>pretending he got it without a walkthrough
You're not cool
>Encounter door with sliding puzzle.
>Understand that this is a video game and the answer is going to be around here somewhere.
>Look around.
>Nothing on the walls.
>Nothing on the door.
>Hmmm
>Ah yes, what about that book on the guy you are forced to kill.
>Read book.
>Understand the claw has the key.
>Use the rotate items in invantory mechanic if you are 120IQ or just drop the item and crouch down to look at it if you are 90IQ.
>Understand the sequence of icons you need to line up.
>Continue the game and kill some dragons.
If you struggle with this puzzle, you are 80IQ at most. Literally unable to think about the environment and make logical deductions. You are the sort of moron that gets caught in a circular loop in Half life running from a giant bug.
Okay, I see you also watched the walkthrough RP video. That still doesn't make you cool.
I never followed the media around the game when it came out since I was living on a Bulgarian farm at the time and did not even have a laptop.
>bulgarian is a liar
What a surprise
I am not a fricking Bulgarian you bastard. I was just living in Bulgaria at the time.
Their behaviour must have rubbed off on you
You're a lying homosexual
i legit dont know if the guys calling you a liar are just trolling or not
This was the only part of Skyrim I actually enjoyed, I had to use my brain for a couple seconds
>>just drop the item and crouch down to look at
I did this after searching the whole area and reading the book. Couldn't figure out how to rotate shit on PC without a controller lol
If you struggled with this, you're an ultra casual moron and shouldn't be gaming at all, get lost zoomer.
I didn't struggle with it, I looked it up like everyone else when it became clear it was some bullshit.
>it was some le bullshit xD
Then why are you playing games with easy puzzles if you're t his much of a casual?
You're trying too hard. It was bullshit and you know it.
It's literally not, holy shit. People like you should not play games, you should not reproduce. You make everything worse. You fricking moronic ape.
You got stuck like everyone else. Maybe you think your tough shit because you got lucky and solved after 20 minutes without a walkthrough but I'm here to tell you you're still shit.
I did not get stuck at all. The puzzle took literally no time at all. You can work it out in less than a min of just considering the situation. I never even thought about the puzzle until people on Ganker started crying over how hard it was.
Then maybe you've watched the Todd Howard reveal video and subconsciously remembered that.
Well it wasn't, you just find the claw, examine it since it's a feature, turn the dials on the wall to match the symbols on the claw and then place the claw on the door to unlock it, just quit gaming you utter mouth breather.
>you just [do all these thing you wouldn't know to do without a walkthrough]
Wow thanks!
>immediately gets stumped on baby easy puzzle on an easy ass simplified baby game and has to look at a guide
Why do you even bother to game?
When bullshit like this comes up I am man enough to admit that I, like most people, looked it up.
a man would know how to break a 3^3 lock
Well it's not bullshit, it's an easy puzzle and you are moron that shouldn't be gaming in the first place.
let's be real here
HOW WERE YOU SUPPOSED TO KNOW?
>let's be real here
The guy caught in the spider web has the note that says the secret is on the claw, you can inspect items in the inventory menu. Its honestly pretty basic, the thing that would throw someone off is the fact that skyrim is a babies first rpg hand holding game where you would think the devs would put big arrows showing you where to look on the claw or something, right? feels kinda out of place having to listen to npcs talk and read notes on them to figure out a quest.
>you can inspect items in the inventory menu.
In most RPGs this is done through a dialogue prompt, not by arbitrarily clicking and dragging what appears to be a still image.
Had to Google the solution and I'm not ashamed of it.
i didnt know how to enlarge the image in your inventory and i couldn't drop it so i had to look it up.
It is pretty bad puzzle design, even if it is easy to brute force.
>It is pretty bad puzzle design
Why? I don't make games or anything, just asking for a friend.
Because it relies on an entirely new mechanic that is used for literally nothing else in the game.
True. Smarter people sometimes overthink puzzling situations. How were we supposed to know it was made for brain dead people?
Just read that dark elf homosexual's journal in the first dungeon. I figured this out when I was like 12 years old playing the game in 2012.
I remember bethesda showing off this puzzle in some promo video before skyrim released that spoiled it, but to be fair the game doesn't really explain that you can rotate items around in the menu and I can't think of any other item you would need to do this for.
The quest is about the claw.
The book says the claw is the key.
How can people have trouble understanding this?
What the frick are you talking about? The puzzle is used constantly in the game.
Rotating things in inventory isnt clear
I just dropped it on the floor are painfully tried to flip it
Also why the frick would you put a code on a key, it defeats the purpose of having one or the other
>Also why the frick would you put a code on a key
So, people cannot create a key from examining the lock.
>The puzzle is used constantly in the game.
Yes, but it's the same puzzle every time and there is no other purpose to rotating objects in the inventory menu.
>no other purpose to rotating objects in the inventory menu.
So, you can look at them? That's why you have a 3rd person camera in the game too. So you can look at your character. Only morons want to play in 3rd person.
Wjy would you look at anything in that game from the inventory?
All clothes are smushed together so they look like a plate in your backpack
You can look at weapons and misc items too you know? And not all items are folded together.
Or you can do what normal person does
Eqip the item and look at it while its on your character
It's a hard rule that people here are utterly fricking moronic. /vst/ are the worst Stratagy game players in exsitance. /rpg/ barely understand the games they play /vg/ have not touched another human being for more than a decade and Ganker never even plays video games.
i brute forced it.............
HOW were we supposed to know to spin and look at the clawr?
It's rotating inventory items bound directly to the left stick on console? Much easier to discover than unprompted having to click and drag on what appears to be a static inventory
It would explain a lot if it is.
the entire game was designed with controller first in mind
They could have easily conditioned players to try this by simply having the objects slowly rotate in the item browser, so as to show that they are fully modeled 3D objects and not just still images.
>Start replaying Skyrim
>Threads start popping up
What the frick is this trend? I also didn't play for years and I love this new (to me) collection shit in Vortex. I got hundreds of mods with a few clicks. I don't even know what I have so stumbling into a random player home or random chest with waifu armor is a nice surprise.
There's tons of Skyrim threads literally every day.
>Item in inventory has a giant picture.
>"I wonder if I can rotate this?"
>Try it.
>It works.
This is too difficult for most of Ganker
for me, todd howard ruined the only puzzle in the game
Same I watched the gameplay reveal where he walks around and shows how everything works lol
>No proof
Nice """thread"""
Yeah because their game crashed when interacting with the door. Typical Bethesda shit.
>tfw remember being on Ganker when Skyrim was released
Fricking hell, it's 11 years and I've been here for longer than that too
The meme about being here forever is true
First time I spent 15 minutes trying to guess the combination.
how? it literally takes a minute or two max.
This is why modern wrpgs have waypoints and no gameplay
>played with textures set to low
It was me, literally couldn't see the markings on the claw. I actually gave up and noclipped through the door.
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frick off 😀
WHERE THE CUBE FRFR THIS GAME AINT BUSSIN ON GOD NO CAP
>can't grab it without crosshair turned on on taller races
very much a design oversight
who are the taller ones, nords and altmer?
khajit and argonian too
Loooool so true though
>the shitty combat I could ignore
>NO QUEST MARKERS, i could handle
>no voiced dialogue, it was fine
>THE FRICKING CUBE
0/10
Yes because I was used to that mechanic from other games.
I played Skyrim once, like 5 years ago but didn't the hallways before the doors literally have the answers written on the walls? I vaguely remember these doors but don't remember struggling at all
I got stuck.
Didn't realize I could look at items.
Unironically this tripped me up because rotating inventory is about the only thing they didn't over explain in tutorials, so I thought it wasn't a mechanic. I didn't play any of the other TES at the time, and really didn't touch any other RPGs either. Also I first played on the 360.
Basically I looked at every claw I could find in the artwork desperate to find a clue, or a book or something. I looked it up eventually and that was when I found out that most of the puzzles in this game are designed for the moronic, and I never really struggled with it again.
>didn't over explain in tutorials, so I thought it wasn't a mechanic.
Tutorials were a mistake. No games should explain how to play so that morons get filtered from the hobby.
YEAH! TELL THEM SENPAI!
I want to be clear here. Pretty much every game has testers, they find the biggest, dumbest morons possible and watch them play the game. The claw puzzle was at the beginning of the game so they must have run hundreds of giant fricking morons though that part without any problems.
So if you had a problem with this part of the game you are LITRALLY DUMBER then the stupidest fricking person they could find.
Congratulations.
No no, look at this guy.
This guy was too SMART for the puzzle.
Unironically yes though.
I'm not even saying this as a good thing, it just means that I tend to overthink puzzles in games because I forget that they are built for people with a standard deviation of intelligence below the average.
Not every game can be La Mulana
qa is for finding showstoppers. they arent a focus group. few companies run a focus group style tester phase like valve did for hl2, especially now when morons literally pay to be beta testers.
I was stuck (not really, I alt tabbed and googled it after 10 seconds), because there was no actual puzzle to be solved, and I'm a hoarder and not gonna remember what some item #254 looked like
>Ganker complains about casuals ruining gaming
>whenever skyrim gets posted morons come out in legions complaining about getting filtered on the door puzzles
The only reason most of you knew what to do here, was that Todd showed off this "puzzle" mechanic in one of the E3 presentations before launch. The game never makes a point that you can inspect the 3d models of every item you pick up, and outside of the dragon claw keys, there's never a reason to do it.
The majority of people who play games aren't meganerds who watch every e3 presentation, so if they notice the note on the dude and put 2&2 together, it's pretty understandable that they could get confused by this mechanic since the game does a piss-poor job of explaining it.
We don't need to excuse Bethesda's bad game design, we should expect them to do better. Either make a challenging puzzle with clearly explained mechanics and require the player to use brainpower to solve it, or just make the dragonclaw a key that unlocks the door. These half-assed "puzzles" like this and the stupid bells in Bioshock Infinite are just an insult to the player.
A normal person does not need to be told how to play a game. Tutorials are for accessibility so the disabled and women can play video games.
There's still no fricking excuse for getting stuck on this puzzle though because you can just brute force it, it wouldn't even take that long.
I hate how I'm force given a quest to give that filthy imperial back his claw. I know you can just not do it, but it's in my log so I gotta do it.
big fat orc breasts in bikini armor leather using modbuffed summoned weapons acting like a god damn shaman from warcraft fricking around with modbuffed summoned wolves
No matter what mods do this game is always so fricking ugly.
that is your opinion and there is nothing that i can do to sway you
If people don't read text in a book how are you meant to have any sort of puzzle? The book clearly explains this puzzle so we can only assume that all the giga-morons here just ignored the book entirely.
How do you make good puzzles when the playerbase is wilfully stupid?
The book is misleading, though. "The answer is in your hands" or something. If I'm currently reading a book, guess what is in my hands at that moment? THE BOOK. I thought the answer was some kind of word puzzle.
My pirated copy at launch didn't allow me to manipulate items in the inventory, I had to brute force it
Playing it years ago I figured it. May have bruteforced the first time since I don’t play many games where you can rotate inventory objects.
Theres a mod for that
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75793
I hope Starfield has a 9 digit code puzzle in the start of the game that requires you to read 3 pages of text to solve so that none of you Black folk can brute force it.
Bonus points if it requires some basic math.
over to gameFAQs
up the solution
the game
Nice try, gay.
Have the puzzle generate a random number based upon game seed.
>go to nexus
>play game
Bethesda making ONE puzzle requiring players to inspect items just so they could show off the mechanic in a gameplay demo is one of the most Bethesda things they’ve ever done
I won’t be surprised if there’s only one space battle in all of Starfield and it’s the exact encounter they already showed off in the recent trailer
I must admit, i one of them, stuck on first one for like 10 minutes, looking around for clues as moron.
I didn't know you could rotate things in inventory. I dropped the claws and picked them up and flung them around until they landed in a good orientation to read them for like 4 years.
I mean yeah, if you're a zoomer who has been conditioned by garbage modern gaming you probably wouldn't expect to be able to actually look at the item and spin it around.
>Game requires you to be able to add 10 numbers in your head on a time limit
This was brutal.
The very first cracked version of Skyrim had the 3d item preview all fricked up, so you couldn't check the combination from the claw itself - had to bruteforce it.
>start new character
>midway through playthrough get new idea for character that sounds interesting and has a slightly more fun playstyle
>stop character and switch to that one
>repeat endlessly until eventually arriving at the inevitable archer playthrough
because its more fun, familiar or still legit scared?
I'm getting itch to start remodding skyrim again. I don't have any of my old mod list which im now regretting but modding is the fun part anyway