disappointed in this. its not an improvement over dark souls 1 and feels like a prototype for elden ring.

disappointed in this. it’s not an improvement over dark souls 1 and feels like a prototype for elden ring. why is this rated so highly?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's the third weakest FS souls game but it's still better than 99% of other japslop

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not? People hate DS3

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >people hate DS3
      >the only game in the original trilogy that still has a dedicated, hardcord, active myltiplayer on all consoles and PC

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the only game in the original trilogy that still has a dedicated, hardcord, active myltiplayer on all consoles and PC

        Damn, is Elden Ring PvP THAT bad?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because dark souls 1 is shit. Even with the remake it could not hold players. Nostalgia is all it has.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the only game in the original trilogy that still has a dedicated, hardcord, active myltiplayer on all consoles and PC

        Damn, is Elden Ring PvP THAT bad?

        Both DS3 and ER have tons of influence from DS2, especially in terms of core mechanics and balance changes.
        Yui Tanimura, the DS2 was director, worked alongside Miyazaki on both these games as co-director.
        Tons of ideas got ported over nearly 1:1 because they worked very well:

        >estus shard/golden seed system
        >midroll up to 70% weight
        >rolling in any direction while locked on
        >effigy/ember/rune arc useable at any time and get HP back to max or get stat boost via great rune effects
        >hit stun limit in PvP to prevent infinite stunlocks
        >casting magic also consumes stamina to limit perpetual spam
        >backstabs have 2 way confirmation via a grab animation
        >guardbreak on a blocking enemy allows for a riposte
        >jumping attacks on all weapons unpariable
        >ultra/colossal weapons unpariable when 2H, except rolling/running attacks
        >reasonable poise/hyperarmor levels that allowed for strategic trades but not facetanking endgame bosses
        >parry frames active at the apex of the shield swing, not instantly at the start
        >4 ring slots so you can still have some interesting synergies and use of niche effects instead of having 90% of players just put on Havel's ring and Ring of Favor
        >blue sentinels to save hosts from invaders
        >limited respec
        >power stancing with any 2 weapons of the same class (only ER)
        >rolling in poison/rot covers you and build up the status (only ER)
        >rolling in water raises fire def by 20% and lowers lightning def by 20% (only ER)

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >pvpsweats think they're the core audience

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        But enough about Dark Souls 2

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Souls PVP
        gross

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >it’s not an improvement over dark souls 1
    uhm sweaty you forgot dark souls 2 existed?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      ds2 is a great game, zoomer
      biggest reddit opinion is that ds2 sucks

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it feels like a prototype for unarguably one of the best games ever made
      >why did people love this?

      Yet another thread trying to change the narrative.
      How tiresome.

      Say something nice about Dark Souls 3

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Prince Lothric is cool

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I like the modernized Dark Souls combat which enabled them to also make enemies and bosses bigger, faster, and more dangerous. I thought some of the armor and weapons looked really cool. I enjoyed the feeling when I beat the Nameless King, the Dragonslayer Armour, and the final boss. I hated the Ringed City DLC and used cheatengine to get to Gael then disabled it. Cancerous level design.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >used cheatengine to get to Gael
          This is who was telling me to "git gud" all along

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          homosexual

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        it came out after the trainwreck that was ds2 and completely scrapped that game's moronic ideas and was more similar to demons and ds1

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the trainwreck that was ds2
          anon no! the ds2 cultists will arrive at any moment!

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >powerstancing was a moronic idea
          >>>

          [...]


          go back

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >muh powerstancing
            don't care
            next

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            was a moronic idea
            try soul memory and gems, scitzhanon

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              also great ideas?
              DS3 did what? oh interesting...

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        limiting your ember use to 1 per life as opposed to demons souls grass, ds1 humanity spam and ds2 infinite lolgems of eternal immortality

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It has an absolutely fantastic soundtrack even by From standards

        it came out after the trainwreck that was ds2 and completely scrapped that game's moronic ideas and was more similar to demons and ds1

        DS3 was thematically a direct extension of DS2:SOTFS, and maintained many of the gameplay changes DS2 made.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          DS2 was a far more technical and tactical game with deep build variety and customization. And then DS3 was just a dumbed down linear action game that rewards button mashing to make it accessible for the kiddies.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            *spacks infinite lifegem heal over time and tanks shit head on 24/7*
            so true bestie
            you forgot to mention powerstancing!

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              that's ds3. If you played like this against Flexile sentry you'd die. But this is supposed to be "duh hardest baws in duh game!" lmao

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Being able to chug so fast that you can do it between a boss's combos was a mistake.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous
        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It has an absolutely fantastic soundtrack even by From standards
          It has the weakest soundtrack of the series. All the music after Bloodborne has been a regression

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            no way dude Sekiro and ER's OST are way worse than DS3
            but yeah the OSTs have been going down the shitter since BB

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              The OST has been going down the shitter since Dark Souls set the precedent that most boss tracks have to be as bombastic as Tower Knight was in Demon's Souls.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                yeah agreed by ER all the incoherent wailing sounds like a parody of epic music

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                lying homosexual

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsps0I58yUM
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs59egXnb3c
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzmsh7_vgW8
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gIrG8SEKvU
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlUaJ3goJ5c

                Hmm, sure seems like most to me, homosexual.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >dark souls set the precedent
                >even though dark souls had a variety in the ost that none of the games afterwards had
                lying homosexual, have a nice day

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >dark souls set the precedent
                And if you continued reading
                >that MOST boss tracks have to be

                Please learn to read you sad little child. I said nothing about variety, only about volume.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >all games after ds1 had ZERO track variety
                >it's somehow ds1's fault because...slightly more than 50% of the songs were epic
                learn to logic, then i will care about what you said

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >it's somehow ds1's fault because...slightly more than 50% of the songs were epic

                Yes, now you're getting it. Dark Souls set the tone for how that trilogy would proceed in terms of its soundtracks, and it subsequently infected their other works as well.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >dark souls set the tone
                >even though dark souls's tone is completely different to its sequels in terms of the OST, and its ost variety second only to demons which is a different series with a different setting anyway
                i'm sorry that dark souls hurt you somehow

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >even though dark souls's tone is completely different to its sequels in terms of the OST

                Except in all the places where it isn't.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Demon Prince fight is the best duo boss they've ever done.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's just a flat open empty space

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            And? What, do you prefer cheesing with conveniently placed pillars in your duo fights?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              graverobbers is a lot more interesting how you use the arena to your advantage and have to fight 3 distinctly different enemies each with their own tactics, strengths and weaknessess. Demon Prince is the same boring roll spam gameplay on a flat plane

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >fighting 3 romhack npcs is more interestnig
                mental illness

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ok you have nothing. Maybe you like it cause duh fireball is le eEPIC and the music went "lala luaududual oooooo! Like every dumb ds3 boss track does. Stupid michael bay shit like that or something for 12 year olds.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                happy late 13th birthday, anon. i hope your mom bought you many games for mature kids such as yourself!

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Graverobbers could have possibly been their best if, as the other anon said, it wasn't three NPC models. Give them unique models and movesets and behaviors. Have Varg focus on keeping himself between you and Cerah instead of running you down, with emphasis on shield bashes and other knockbacks to try and knock you into the lower levels where Cerah can shoot down at you. Give Cerah some kind of evasive ability, a backwards leap or a smokebomb to temporarily break line of sight and lock on, and let them jump between the levels of the arena. Then keep the unnamed Graverobber mostly the same, constantly harrowing you from behind while you try to make headway past the more defensive Varg to get at the squishy but high damage Cerah.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Super corny shit. They're not anime characters. You dont fricking get it.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Basic party tactics are "anime".

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                They already have basic tactics. The archer runs away from you and shoots you with a bow.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The archer runs away from you and shoots you with a bow.
                woah...i kneel ds2GODS...such a DEEP and STRATEGIC game...does it allow you to have a stance of power, too, perchance?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You might be confused because DS2 actually did have invader NPCs with less uniform tactics like Maldron or Holy Knight Aurheim that were actually interesting, but Graverobbers are as basic b***h as they come.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly like graverobbers did. You just dont know what the frick you're talking about

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It has the best catacombs in the series.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        it has far less gimmick fight then demon souls

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'd honestly prefer more gimmick fights to what DaS3 had.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        it doesnt have frick horse valley

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gael

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Friede and Gael are the best boss fights in all of Fromsoft games.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          They're just wambo wombo roll spam schlock for kids. And they have cutscenes, mid cutscenes, cringe dialogue

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but From has yet to top them.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah they did. Executioner's Chariot is better. Lots of bosses are.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're one of those.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >decided to use a scythe in DS3
          >the best scythe is behind the hardest fight in the game
          awesome. also it fricking hisses non-stop when you have it out.

          I liked using a scythe but it seems like it was the worst possible weapon type for DS3.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >it feels like a prototype for unarguably one of the best games ever made
    >why did people love this?

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yet another thread trying to change the narrative.
    How tiresome.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >babies first rpg
    Tiresome

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      my first RPG was earthbound and i played it when i was 3 years old and that was probably about 10 years before you were even born

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's the best area? Probably the Corvian Village

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >One thread saying 3 > 1
    >Another thread saying 1 > 3
    most likely the same OP farming yous lmao
    never change Ganker

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      True, this site doesn't have hundreds of thousands of daily users or anything lol

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >hundreds of thousands
        It's just us 3 kpop fans (me, you and Miyeon bro)

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only great Dark Souls game is the first only. The other two still are good, though.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alright who just insulted Dark Souls 2? I sensed it.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The contrast between the art people make of Elden Ring, the kind of game you would think it was by looking at vista 5x5s, and the fat diablo dungeon it is will always make me laugh. Why cant Miyazaki make anything but Dark Souls?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why does he need too? Why is it bad to have a niche? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >This homie picasso can only paint one style, its always the same shit, why doesn't he try sculpting instead of painting?

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's only rated highly because a bunch of zoomers started with it and also never played Bloodborne.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It has cool bosses

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why does everyone fellate ds1 so much? Half the game is unfinished bottom of the barrel design yet everyone glosses it over, only to nitpick at every perceived mistake the sequels make.
    I still love ds1 and is my most played in the series, but even 2 is an improvement over it. DS3 is Miyazaki's vision of the series (mostly) realized.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      this
      the only game ds1 is better than is demons
      most of the bosses in ds1 are garbage, you can only dodge in cardinal directions, half of the weapons are worthless, the weapon progression is annoying and grindy, and as fun as the interconnected world is the first time you go through it, it becomes a tedious slog running back and forth to shit all the time

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >even 2 is an improvement over it.
      Do better next time.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because Dark Souls 1 fans see it as an abstract piece of art, or a piece of video game history, something more than just a mere video game.
      So when you point out that
      >99% of the enemies in DaS1 have zero defense against you circle strafing with your shield up to backstab them
      >The game has two completely fricked stats (RES and END) and is the only game in the franchise with such an issue
      >By far the worst and most broken PvP
      it means less than nothing to them. That wont stop them from pointing out that DaS2 has bad texture tiling in some areas and DaS3 is too linear though. Almost all of them argue in bad faith and aren't worth engaging with.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >END is fricked
        Huh? Is this some ptde issue?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's the most overpowered stat in the history of the franchise.

          >Because Dark Souls 1 fans see it as an abstract piece of art, or a piece of video game history, something more than just a mere video game.
          And it is.

          Sure, but if I want to compare it as a video game to other video games and it doesn't hold up, are you going to throw a tantrum and call me a contrarian?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Because Dark Souls 1 fans see it as an abstract piece of art, or a piece of video game history, something more than just a mere video game.
        And it is.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          lol

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            lol noob

            It's the most overpowered stat in the history of the franchise.
            [...]
            Sure, but if I want to compare it as a video game to other video games and it doesn't hold up, are you going to throw a tantrum and call me a contrarian?

            yes because it still holds up

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    the epic gaslighting ds2cord troons have arrived

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's a solid 8.5/10 with some good boss fights, but it's easily the most rushed and sloppy souls game though.
    >bosses moved around last minute
    >boss names/lore changed completely late in development
    >map pieces glued together and mostly unfinished
    Even trying to bother with the lore for DS3 is pointless as a result

    Reducing stamina for rolls as a hack to get around making enemies faster wasn't ideal either

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    From spent all their effort on the boss fights.

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    crying about not being able to roll diagonally is a sign of a shitter who can't play around the game's intended limitations

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Damn if took 50 posts for someone to start dick sucking Bloodborne

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked the movement better and the bosses weren't as dumb as DS1. everything else wasn't as memorable

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >reinstall dark souls 2
    >start it up
    >it absolutely hates the DS4 controller
    Am I really gonna have to frickin download the ds4 software? I thought we were beyond that.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Am I really gonna have to frickin download the DS4 software? I thought we were beyond that.

      ps4/ps5 - dinput
      xbox - xinput

      PS4/PS5 controller are perfectly well supported with DirectInput (like any generic controller is) but because all gamedevs only know how to use XInput (which only supports/assumes the controller is and xbox one) you have to emulate an xbox controller to work with that API

      Xinput is Microsoft's proprietary controller drivers, compared to Dinput. There is no disadvantage to Dinput just that it doesn't have native support in every application. You can just use DS4Windows or Steam Config or about a half dozen other input wrappers to have it seen as Xinput as well as rebind buttons, adjust deadzones, do turbo/macros, action sets/layers, etc.

      It's because of XInput being the standard controller library for all Windows PC software within the last 15 years. Every single game and program expects A to be the bottom button. XInput is supporting the functionality of the Xbox controller on PC.

      The only reason you can use other controllers on Steam is because it emulates them into Xbox 360 controllers. You can plug in a PS4 controller into any windows PC without even an internet connection and it will immediately function as a dinput gamepad, but devs have to program support.

      Dark Souls PTDE, Dark Souls 2, and Dark Souls 3 were ported from Xbox, thus uses XInput. PS4/PS5 is a DInput device and works just fine as that, the problem is almost everyone has dropped DInput support and uses XInput now.

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    what it's the most hated dark souls

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not bad honestly

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      With these numbers, could I cap my soul memory at 30K and consistently grief new characters? I've never actually tried invasions in this game.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        you're a freak kys

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't like it. Not a fan of swamps

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i just figure out i can basicly transmog in elden ring? are there any nice outfit for female characters?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Transmog? You can alter some armor sets to not have a cape, but you can't give one armor piece another's appearance.

      >are there any nice outfit for female characters?

      You could try the Astrologer's Robe (Altered), the Nox Maiden/Swordstress set, or the Noble's Traveling Garb.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        oh nice tge traveling garb was pretty much the style i was looking for. thanks mate

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I very much enjoy all of the souls games!

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      No! What are you doing?!
      You have to pick a favorite and shit on the others to justify your position

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