This illustrates exactly why Dexcut is not only a non-issue, but honestly for the better.
You know what my favorite part of playing Sun and Moon was? Trading up all the mons I couldn't catch in game. Regional Dex is the only dex that matters.
Dexcut is an issue because whether you transfer your Pokemon or not, not having an official version of showdown or battle sim means that you can't actually get/do anything with a rotating number of Pokemon for each generation, and that's absolutely moronic, and done for no reason other than arbitrary ones and to sell you DLC with "returning Pokemon"
The pokémnon are ALWAYS a free update, you stupid Black person. Amazing, four whole years and alkl you seething shitheads can spegrg about dexit is lies and mald because they stopped giving a frick for autistic 20-something year old men.
Almost as if they were NEVER the fricking audience the brand chased.
They're only "free" if you're online and can thus coast off of everyone else's purchases such as leeching off of trades and raids.
If you're offline though, you need to pay up for the DLC yourself or buy the prior games you can natively obtain those Pokemon, otherwise you'll never come into contact with them within the confines of your offline experience.
Anon, that's not the great fricking filter "needing two systems and both versions" is. Kids have phones these days (part of why pokémon's adapted as so), phones have wi-fi spots and that lets you play online Switch (I personally played rounds of splatoon 2 travelling internationally on my phone wi-fi).
And it all boils down once again to poor morons malding vidya changed for the better (as I'd rather Iwao actually have to work for his "third version" than take a whole entire game and add a hallway or two and sign off on it). But I'm not autistic and hyperfocused on the creature index.
>Be me >Playing Ruby >Realize something is amiss >"wtf, they're missing the most important pokemon: Qwilfish!" >Game is immediately ruined, I cant catch them all. >Nintendo "sells" me the solution with Firered a few years later >What a bunch of bullshit.
>be me
Dumb newbie. You also fail to realize that you can hack or trade in qwilfish any time. Every fricking time with you limp wristed low IQ bootlickers.
The pokémnon are ALWAYS a free update, you stupid Black person. Amazing, four whole years and alkl you seething shitheads can spegrg about dexit is lies and mald because they stopped giving a frick for autistic 20-something year old men.
Almost as if they were NEVER the fricking audience the brand chased.
Anon, that's not the great fricking filter "needing two systems and both versions" is. Kids have phones these days (part of why pokémon's adapted as so), phones have wi-fi spots and that lets you play online Switch (I personally played rounds of splatoon 2 travelling internationally on my phone wi-fi).
And it all boils down once again to poor morons malding vidya changed for the better (as I'd rather Iwao actually have to work for his "third version" than take a whole entire game and add a hallway or two and sign off on it). But I'm not autistic and hyperfocused on the creature index.
>Be me >Playing Ruby >Realize something is amiss >"wtf, they're missing the most important pokemon: Qwilfish!" >Game is immediately ruined, I cant catch them all. >Nintendo "sells" me the solution with Firered a few years later >What a bunch of bullshit.
>have mons from as far back as Diamond >still like using them online and at the battle tower/subway/maison/tree/whateverthefrick (aren't just box trophies) >can mix and match parties however I feel do to having all of them readily available >can keep them all on a single cart
>Home comes out >can't transfer them all to one game due to arbitrary restrictions >Home is $16/year compared to Bank's $5/year >Home is just Bank with the GTS tacked on (which you can't use on the switch version LMAO) >can't use/battle/interact with my bros that I've had for years >this is a worse experience for me compared to Bank >morons like (You) piss, shit, cry, bleed and cum all over themselves at the thought of someone not tonguing TPCi and Gamefreak's buttholes for this """improvement"""
I'm not mad about dexit, it was bound to happen sooner or later. I'm upset that Home is just Bank at 320% markup with features that don't justify the price hike and a system that means I'll have to either pay for Home or keep my Pokemon scattered across multiple games, which is cumbersome. If Home was a Stadium/ PBR style sidegame where I could battle with my Pokemon, I probably wouldn't have minded, but they couldn't even by assed to do that. Let me INTERACT with my fricking pokemon. I'm not paying $16 fricking dollars for a glorified box. To answer
https://i.imgur.com/MQqTpPd.jpg
Do you transfer all your Pokémon up?
question, no, they're all chilling in Ultra Moon. I haven't bought any nu-gen slop so there is no reason to use Home.
>inb4 "poorgay", "manbaby", or other disingenuous strawmen copes
I have my gen 1-6 pokemon backed up, but why would I just trap them in Home where they don't belong, instead of keep them in the games that are their literal homes.
I really don’t care enough to transfer my team members into Home lol, I have my WIP living dex, all my shinies, random crap like Ash Hat Pikachus, and thats it.
The only Pokemon I bother transferring are my full odds shinies in the 2D games, but they usually stay in the Gen i found them. Or have a hard final destination in Gen 5.
This this pic fanmade? I don’t understand why Fire Red/Leaf Green are sectioned off from the other GBA games.
Emerald also had the wireless trading adapter and was released last so why wouldn’t it be grouped with FR/LG for compatibility?
Shouldn’t the gen 6 games get their own section since transferring from them to the Alola games was one-way and they couldn’t be transferred back? This whole chart only makes it look more confusing than it already is
If I had to guess, the reason FRLG are segregated is because they had that absolutely fricking moronic trade lock that prevented them from trading with any Non-FRLG games until you completed a Post-National Dex Sevii Island quest, so even if they COULD trade with RSE, you had to wait a fricking while to do so from a fresh save.
>collection up to 2013 in gen 5 >collection up to 2016 in gen 6 >collection up to 2019 in gen 7 >collection spread across gen 8/9
It's nice being able to backup saves
Just shinies and any other Pokemon I cherish. I have a living dex up to gen 7 in Bank, and still debating on whether to transfer them or just start from scratch with Home.
Man, what a shit graphic, all to make it look similar to the Switch one made by TPC/Nintendo.
I just looked up "pokemon transfer chart" and some redditor solved this over a year ago.
>*Technically locked, but can transfer with homebrew 3DS
As it says on the chart, asterisk and all, it's boxed because you technically can't (hence the whole thing about Gen I/II being gated from the rest), but you CAN copy the save from the original cart and either inject it as the VC save. Not """""legit""""", but it's possible if you're attached enough to a GB/C mon to want to bring it with you.
>didn't even notice the *soon >this was figured out so early it was before HOME support for SV was even in the conversation
probably another version out there somewhere with the other gen 8 games' boxes stretched out further
Thanks for the edit mate.
I only play random battles on Showdown and use the free time not wasted on this israeli scam of a franchise (that was only ever defended by autistic corporate wienersucker troons suffering from Stockholm Syndrome by proxy) to simply fap to pirated hentai doujinshi featuring only on-model Pokemons like a normal person
Maybe so, but at least Pokémon games are still something you can actually play yourself on an emulator, instead the glorified 60$ VNs that Digimon gets for the last few years.
I will duplicate them through glitches, or a hacked system, or trade bots so I can still have them in the original game but be able to send them forward
no. for all intents and purposes i treat the switch era as a series reboot. i'll leave my 3DS mons on my 3DS saves and when my hardware dies i'll reminisce by shuffling through the save backups in Pkhex fondly
I prefer to just keep my mons in their own games aside from some competitive ones to pass along.
I thought about it, but now that movesets get reset going into Scarlet/Violet it has lost a lot of its purpose to me. Why would I want to trade up stuff with movesets I raised, especially like the Purified Shadow Pokemon (by the way, missing from your chart), that will lose what made them special?
Yeah, Home still holds the Pokemon's original moves and such, it's just when it goes to a new game that it gets moves based on its level. You can give it the original info when putting back in Home.
I've stopped bothering. I don't actually use any of my Ruby mons, I rarely reuse mons at all. Only time I ever did was bringing my BW2 team into the X facilties for triples.
This illustrates exactly why Dexcut is not only a non-issue, but honestly for the better.
You know what my favorite part of playing Sun and Moon was? Trading up all the mons I couldn't catch in game. Regional Dex is the only dex that matters.
Dexcut is an issue because whether you transfer your Pokemon or not, not having an official version of showdown or battle sim means that you can't actually get/do anything with a rotating number of Pokemon for each generation, and that's absolutely moronic, and done for no reason other than arbitrary ones and to sell you DLC with "returning Pokemon"
It's what tcgs do
The pokémnon are ALWAYS a free update, you stupid Black person. Amazing, four whole years and alkl you seething shitheads can spegrg about dexit is lies and mald because they stopped giving a frick for autistic 20-something year old men.
Almost as if they were NEVER the fricking audience the brand chased.
They're only "free" if you're online and can thus coast off of everyone else's purchases such as leeching off of trades and raids.
If you're offline though, you need to pay up for the DLC yourself or buy the prior games you can natively obtain those Pokemon, otherwise you'll never come into contact with them within the confines of your offline experience.
Anon, that's not the great fricking filter "needing two systems and both versions" is. Kids have phones these days (part of why pokémon's adapted as so), phones have wi-fi spots and that lets you play online Switch (I personally played rounds of splatoon 2 travelling internationally on my phone wi-fi).
And it all boils down once again to poor morons malding vidya changed for the better (as I'd rather Iwao actually have to work for his "third version" than take a whole entire game and add a hallway or two and sign off on it). But I'm not autistic and hyperfocused on the creature index.
>Be me
>Playing Ruby
>Realize something is amiss
>"wtf, they're missing the most important pokemon: Qwilfish!"
>Game is immediately ruined, I cant catch them all.
>Nintendo "sells" me the solution with Firered a few years later
>What a bunch of bullshit.
>be me
Dumb newbie. You also fail to realize that you can hack or trade in qwilfish any time. Every fricking time with you limp wristed low IQ bootlickers.
>just hack it in bro
>just find someone who bought FireRed bro
Ah yes, beautiful solutions
But you can acquire it. Unlike games that had the dex cut. Try again.
Why blame one game for trading exclusive when every mainline game has it?
Little more excusable in the modern era, where you can just go online and get whatever you want.
>Has to either purchase a 2nd game or cheating device to solve the issue.
>This is somehow worse than getting it for free later…?
Wild
>have mons from as far back as Diamond
>still like using them online and at the battle tower/subway/maison/tree/whateverthefrick (aren't just box trophies)
>can mix and match parties however I feel do to having all of them readily available
>can keep them all on a single cart
>Home comes out
>can't transfer them all to one game due to arbitrary restrictions
>Home is $16/year compared to Bank's $5/year
>Home is just Bank with the GTS tacked on (which you can't use on the switch version LMAO)
>can't use/battle/interact with my bros that I've had for years
>this is a worse experience for me compared to Bank
>morons like (You) piss, shit, cry, bleed and cum all over themselves at the thought of someone not tonguing TPCi and Gamefreak's buttholes for this """improvement"""
I'm not mad about dexit, it was bound to happen sooner or later. I'm upset that Home is just Bank at 320% markup with features that don't justify the price hike and a system that means I'll have to either pay for Home or keep my Pokemon scattered across multiple games, which is cumbersome. If Home was a Stadium/ PBR style sidegame where I could battle with my Pokemon, I probably wouldn't have minded, but they couldn't even by assed to do that. Let me INTERACT with my fricking pokemon. I'm not paying $16 fricking dollars for a glorified box. To answer
question, no, they're all chilling in Ultra Moon. I haven't bought any nu-gen slop so there is no reason to use Home.
>inb4 "poorgay", "manbaby", or other disingenuous strawmen copes
You don't have to pay the whole year, just the month you buy a new game and want to trade your old team to it.
have a nice day. This shows the exact reason why dexcut is bad.
Fricking shills like you ruin the world.
sun moon doesn't even have a national dex diploma
So your saying Gen 7 even knew that this was an issue? First game to decide that it’s not even worth rewarding?
Sounded inevitable then.
You can't transfer them to SWSH if it doesn't have those mons.
I usually sent my clones up, technically yes.
I have my gen 1-6 pokemon backed up, but why would I just trap them in Home where they don't belong, instead of keep them in the games that are their literal homes.
I really don’t care enough to transfer my team members into Home lol, I have my WIP living dex, all my shinies, random crap like Ash Hat Pikachus, and thats it.
The only Pokemon I bother transferring are my full odds shinies in the 2D games, but they usually stay in the Gen i found them. Or have a hard final destination in Gen 5.
I have a collection of mons I've moved forward from gen 3 up to USUM but I'm not paying for home so I can't move them any further than that
This this pic fanmade? I don’t understand why Fire Red/Leaf Green are sectioned off from the other GBA games.
Emerald also had the wireless trading adapter and was released last so why wouldn’t it be grouped with FR/LG for compatibility?
Shouldn’t the gen 6 games get their own section since transferring from them to the Alola games was one-way and they couldn’t be transferred back? This whole chart only makes it look more confusing than it already is
If I had to guess, the reason FRLG are segregated is because they had that absolutely fricking moronic trade lock that prevented them from trading with any Non-FRLG games until you completed a Post-National Dex Sevii Island quest, so even if they COULD trade with RSE, you had to wait a fricking while to do so from a fresh save.
>collection up to 2013 in gen 5
>collection up to 2016 in gen 6
>collection up to 2019 in gen 7
>collection spread across gen 8/9
It's nice being able to backup saves
I fricking hate one-way transfers. No different than death itself.
Yes. No point keeping shit locked to an ecosystem I'm not interacting with any longer.
The only correct answer in the entire thread
This. Thats why I don’t transfer them up and keep them in the original DS cartridges.
Just shinies and any other Pokemon I cherish. I have a living dex up to gen 7 in Bank, and still debating on whether to transfer them or just start from scratch with Home.
Well when Bank gets axed you’ll have to decide whether you want that living dex to be in Gen 7 or in Gen 6.
Well they're already stuck to 7 since I transferred them all to 7 already. And once they've gone to a gen 7 game, they can't go back to 6.
This shitty graphic make it looks like:
>DPPt can't trade with HGSS
>VC GSC can be sent to XY and ORAS
Man, what a shit graphic, all to make it look similar to the Switch one made by TPC/Nintendo.
I just looked up "pokemon transfer chart" and some redditor solved this over a year ago.
You can transfer from the actual gameboy games to the virtual console gameboy games?
Yes, you copy the saves into the 3ds as the VGC releases and it reads them the same.
>*Technically locked, but can transfer with homebrew 3DS
As it says on the chart, asterisk and all, it's boxed because you technically can't (hence the whole thing about Gen I/II being gated from the rest), but you CAN copy the save from the original cart and either inject it as the VC save. Not """""legit""""", but it's possible if you're attached enough to a GB/C mon to want to bring it with you.
>didn't even notice the *soon
>this was figured out so early it was before HOME support for SV was even in the conversation
probably another version out there somewhere with the other gen 8 games' boxes stretched out further
Thanks for the edit mate.
I only play random battles on Showdown and use the free time not wasted on this israeli scam of a franchise (that was only ever defended by autistic corporate wienersucker troons suffering from Stockholm Syndrome by proxy) to simply fap to pirated hentai doujinshi featuring only on-model Pokemons like a normal person
>play random battles on Showdown
>fap to pirated hentai
pokemon brainwashed you
You claim it's awful, yet continue to consume some of it
Maybe so, but at least Pokémon games are still something you can actually play yourself on an emulator, instead the glorified 60$ VNs that Digimon gets for the last few years.
They are all cozy and nice in their original cardridges where they belong, as Arceus intended.
I will duplicate them through glitches, or a hacked system, or trade bots so I can still have them in the original game but be able to send them forward
no. for all intents and purposes i treat the switch era as a series reboot. i'll leave my 3DS mons on my 3DS saves and when my hardware dies i'll reminisce by shuffling through the save backups in Pkhex fondly
no, because I refuse to pay $6 to transfer pokemon from the DS era.
I only play gen 3 so I just trade between my cartridges
I prefer to just keep my mons in their own games aside from some competitive ones to pass along.
I thought about it, but now that movesets get reset going into Scarlet/Violet it has lost a lot of its purpose to me. Why would I want to trade up stuff with movesets I raised, especially like the Purified Shadow Pokemon (by the way, missing from your chart), that will lose what made them special?
Dont they just reset again if you switch them back to HOME?
Yeah, Home still holds the Pokemon's original moves and such, it's just when it goes to a new game that it gets moves based on its level. You can give it the original info when putting back in Home.
Not really
I did in XY because ooo 3D but haven't done anything since. I am however working on a ribbon master so I will eventually
Gen 3, 4, 5 and 6 all be isolated groups to indicate they can be freely transfered between each other.
Gen 1+2 should also be one big group
I've stopped bothering. I don't actually use any of my Ruby mons, I rarely reuse mons at all. Only time I ever did was bringing my BW2 team into the X facilties for triples.