What makes these people not frick each other constantly? I see them often described as perverted and sadistic. Would a woman in this society not see everyone around her as a sexual conquest, people to be subjected through perverted intimacy, gender be damned?
It's less perverted, more sadistic, and add a fricked up culture that actively incentivizes backstabbing.
they live for hundreds of years, sex gets boring after first few decades
That doesn’t seem to apply to vampires? Why would that apply to drow? If anything i’d think they’d be constantly seeking new debased forms of pleasure. Truly a race of libertines after my own heart.
Vampires don’t frick, they seduce so they can suck the blood of busty heroines for our musclebound hero to rescue
when vampires don't frick how is dhampir made?
Those tend to happen for a variety of reasons, fricking is just one and you could argue that only "new" vampires would still be interested in fricking.
>That doesn’t seem to apply to vampires?
Depends on the setting. Anne Rice vampires are impotent.
>That doesn’t seem to apply to vampires?
The undead mindset is far different than the living one.
They don’t want to tick off a certain dark goddess that they worship by not showing her enough respect, which keeps them busy.
Speaking of vampires, why don’t we see more Drow vampires?
Had a friend play a drow and got turned into a vampire. He basically just played a vampire from then on. Also Lolth hates undead
>Also Lolth hates undead
One of Lolth's greatest gifts is an undead servant.
>Lolth gives you a reward
>Gets pissed off if you don't use it
>Gets pissed off if you do use it
Lolth would make a great Greek goddess
Akiba Maid Wars. It's about maid cafes battling against each other. Never seen it so I'm not sure if they're seriously killing each other or not.
>Also Lolth hates undead
Does she? One of her lovers is a vampire.
>my rules for thee not for me
also not just a vampire, but also a human
>but also a human
Your picture is blatant Lloth cult propaganda! Her true for is a large spider with only her head still resembling an elf!
IIRC Lolth can appear in any form between fully drow and fully spider.
She can. I was just being silly for silliness' sake. I am right about her true form though. Correlon Larethian really fricked her up.
>Correlon Larethian really fricked her up.
Yeah I bet, wouldn’t you?
After the shit she did? He should have just killed her.
>cucks you with your best friend but it is okay because he said sorry
>tries to murder you and pins it on your daughter
>just being a shitty mom in general
>manipulates own grandson into becoming her patron probably fricking him too
tbh from what I know I think they actually need evil gods because of balance or some shit like that, and who knows, maybe whoever is going to replace Lolth could be even WORSE
>also in a strange roundabout way Lolth is the water-soluble glue which keeps her kids from killing each other because they both agree she sucks
I could have sworn Lolth and Corellon had another daughter something about war, name beginning with V- oh well, it's not like she's important
>pic
What the
Vampires at least have the excuse of having no libido because they're technically dead
In most settings Vampires are undead and therefore cold and unfeeling. Assuming they could even get it up or become aroused I doubt they would be able to finish.
Vampires use their sexiness to lure targets away from safety.
>hundreds of decades
>lets draw them as five years old
why are you weebs all degenerate child frickers?
That's how five year olds look where you're from? What do they put in the water?
phytoestrogens
How would most Drow women react to getting pregnant by human? Would they be willing to marry the human man?
Disgust, no.
disgust until she's mindbroken by daily mating press and chad-zak mega orgasms
>disgust until she's mindbroken by daily mating press and chad-zak mega orgasms
Sounds like a plot of a Japanese anime.
I cant tell if this is slop or the game's graphics lel
I think we both know how feminists deal with such... inconveniences.
Have the child, child support rape the father, and then turn the child into a troony?
>fapbait image
>dump world-building question
>no remarks about actual systems, campaigns and player characters
>doesn’t know what i’m talking about
Holy newbie
gotta keep you on your toes
Nothing repulses +95% of women more than weak men, and drow society is structured to make drow men as weak in relation to women as possible. The drow make more sense when you realize Lolth is BPD sadomasochist and her entire theology is an elaborate shit-test on the various Lawful and Good gods that they've yet to pass.
It's true.
>Drow
>Exist in multiple systems
I bet you're family and friends are sick of your banality
lurk more
>not see everyone around her as a sexual conquest,
they are unimaginably egoistic and paranoid and extremely power hungry due to their race, their civilization and all their environment and factors internal and external. Sexual stuff is inferior to that and they would use it as a tool. They are wicked and would consider becoming slaves to their hedonism a weakness.
Pretty much think that their desire for Power dominates their desire for pleasure by a margin of a myriad, though it all there. Think dark eldar. Hedonistic, but not my 600lbs life hedonist, power always comes first by a vast distance.
>though it all there
though its all there
I understand your point, but it does seem like sexual conquest is the ultimate power move for this race. Imagine being an accomplished arachnomancer and you’re raped by a matron mother or one of the daughter just because you’re fit or intelligent. You literally become a b***h.
>ultimate power move for this race
>You literally become a b***h.
Losing face is a great blow and a great loss, like a public defeat in combat even when its behind closed doors. Fame and rumors and things like that. Sexuality is powerful but this would be known throughout the drow society. The internal antagonisms would include that and harsh extremely cruel lessons regarding it so the "hellraiser" extremes would be used to make sure one house does not to another just because one female or male cannot control their sexual desire or is not competent enough to know what is going on.
Its a society with constant backstabbing, literal or social power-wise or in may other ways, so crazy stuff would happen.
Direct violence in an intimate moment wouuld not be excluded if a partner suspected of being fricked over by the other in a non-sexual way, so they would be careful not to expose themselves during sexual encounters and in their sexual lives in general.
Like being caught with their pants down. Or their spider-silk boxers or whatever :)|
>sexual conquest is the ultimate power move for this race.
that would be down in their list actually. They cannot conquer anyone sexually other than some drow commoners of low quality (the only possible hedonists and even then it means they would not survive long) or some very vulnerable of a higher caste which would be 0000000000,1% chance.
Power. Their are hedonistic for power, not for sex. They are not modern porn viewers or some common modern human bawds or prostitutemongers.
You are weak? You die now or soon.
This anon gets it. Drow are the ultimate epitome of will to power - they are Ragnar Redbeard's ideal, Machiavelli's Prince, and Nietzsche's uebermensch in elven form, with all the magical arts that come with it. In fact, I had the idea that drow females use their sexuality to get fools to underestimate them and think with the wrong head - making them all the easier to enslave. They're not as sexualized as humans like to make them out to be.
True, but I think drow, being as sadistic as they are, would have prison rules for sexuality - homosexual rape as a flex. I also had the idea drow nobles (male and female) would keep human/light elf slave girl harems like SM Stirling's Draka. Sexual violence such as castration, impalement through the anus are frequent atrocities inflicted on captured male foes.
Vampires are a Balkan interpretation of the sleep paralysis monster/shadow people trope that comes out in the night to feed of human blood, hates sunlight and Christian holy symbols, etc.
Drow/dark elves originally come from the Celtic/Germanic interpretation of the sleep paralysis monster/shadow people trope and come out at night from underground castles to poison people with disease, feed off of night mares, etc. They fear the sun and Christian holy symbols, etc.
Drow and vampires are redundant.
Drow males are only "weak" in comparison to the females - only the strongest drow males get to breed. Most drow males are highly capable warriors and wizards capable of easily killing a superior number of elite human warriors.
They keep killing each other which keeps their population down. Only Vhaeraun's Drow are into massive population expansion to help colonize the surface while still maintaining strongholds in the Underdark. The problem is Vhaeraun is heavily underrated and has a small following compared to Lolth.
The Germanic concept of dark elves just meant ghosts that dwell in the dark and while were thought of as gloomy, they were not evil. Good and evil as objective concepts are not in ancient Germanic legend except for betrayal. Dark elves dwelled in the dark while regular elves dwelled in the light. Elves were also thought of as purified ancestors waiting to be reborn through their bloodlines while dishonorable ancestors were erased from existence.by Niddhoggr.
The exact nature of elves in Germanic myth is hotly debated, but the Prose Edda description of dark elves as living underground and being blacker than pitch absolutely inspired drow. The Irish Aos Sidhe also live underground and were often malevolent to humanity.
Oh, under no circumstances would I ever go into such detail - maybe some vague mention of it being better to be dead than a captive of dark elves.
I'd assume light elven slaves are extremely rare - light elves are a match to dark elves and are not likely to let themselves be taken captive.
I mentioned the Draka as an example - Draka believe themselves to be superhumans (eventually this becomes reality as they genetically alter themselves) and genetically compromising the race by breeding with non-Draka is a capital crime. However since Draka society is matrilineal, the children of male Draka and female serfs are serfs and therefore there is no punishment for either party. Female Draka make use of a legal loophole and fulfill their needs to dominate by raping their female serfs (Draka sex-segregated schooling leads to a general acceptance of homosexuality/bisexuality). Nice people.
Drizzt and Eilistraeens were okay because they were exceptions to the rule. Of course the problem is they've spawned lots of copycats and the original evil drow have been distorted into parodies into the nightmare creatures they were originally intended to be.
Good point. I rip a lot of obscure concepts from Tolkien and that might be yet another of them. (I have not specified the existence of light elven slaves among dark elves to this point) It'd at least be a good way out of all the demeaning elf porn.
>he Prose Edda description of dark elves as living underground and being blacker than pitch absolutely inspired drow. The Irish Aos Sidhe also live underground and were often malevolent to humanity.
yes this is the fact and reality of it, and its the best version.
>they were exceptions to the rule.
now dark elves feel common and not special. Its like Planescape, Sigil. You see a fricking cornugon and a mind flayer and a yeti down the street and then the DM wants to run an adventure and you see a fricking hobgoblin and even if you see the 3 previous mentioned things they are all a joke. A joke. Common and boring, like actors in suits.
And surface elves have become too human-like. They are supposedly magical beings and not just some pointy eared models prancing around.
>Draka sex-segregated schooling leads to a general acceptance of homosexuality/bisexuality.
Nice
I like to think drow have no problem with homosexuality. Males embody the spartan and imperal samurai aspect of love, not like they’d get that with drow females. Drow females to me would participate in homosexuality in the same way prisoners do, only to subjugate they’re perceived lessers.
Of course i’d also like to think that because of the lower social cast for males that some females would inly be able to experience true love alongside other women, no social heat for showing affection to another woman. Why would anyone actually care?
>aspect of love,
there is no word for love in the drow language, nor a concept nor should there be. Nor camaraderie in a virtuous manner.
Their "loyalty" to each-other stems from self-interest and their fierceness, it is not spartan or samurai-like. Its not obedience to the law or to their sense of duty.
Its to their ego, their desire for more power and their desire to cause pain to others and demean them.
Self-interest in an extreme and obsessive manner to the tiniest detail.
Consumed by their ego and everything simply satellites around it.
An alien malignant twisted mindset that is missing most human parts, as they are inhuman.
From the Greenwood himself
>The Drow words are:
alurlssrin = unselfish, deep love
raggath = act of love (lovemaking)
lurraggath = act of love (sacrificial or noble deed)
>Greenwood himself
yeah he is an butthole, frick you Ed, what can you expect from a degenerate, he was going to make faerun an orgy realm and we would not even had the realms as they are now.
Gygax, Greenwood and the rest have written tons of junk (Indra as CN in 1e and CE in 2e while he is a LG hero, embodiment of good and god of order).
If they were my friends i would tell them, don't write that shit it does not fit and you are being a lazy butthole. This will ruin the setting greatly or little by little till its just nothing special.
with these the fantasty dark elves of D&D are just a pseudo-fierce race and society and its become common as well.
They might as well be disgruntled humans with blackface that live underground with most of their women on their period 24/7. This is how this will end up.
Ignore that shit and give greenwood the finger, he is an butthole and has proved it aplenty.
Keep the dark elves DARK.
>faerun an orgy realm and we would not even had the realms as they are now.
so he would make realms 5e even in 1e
>They might as well be disgruntled humans with blackface that live underground with most of their women on their period 24/7. This is how this will end up.
this is what is planned for the entirety of the game by company policy.
>Greenwood himself
this mongrel thinks he is Tolkien? He is not, he is nothing.
>aspect of love,
dark elves do not care about Lolth, their house, their city, their family, their this or their that. Even for the drow race.
They care about their EGO and everything can be seen from the outside as being loyalty and care and love and something of the sort for the above but it is only about their EGO.
Their desire and power their desire for domination. EGO.
ITs just as likely that drow females would follow similar practices as classical Athens/feudal Japan/the Ottoman Empire and decide that "males are icky, true romance is between two females" and thus romanticize relations between an older superior female and a younger one.
There's even some dialogue along this line from Baldurs Gate III (source: BGIII wiki, Minthara Banter page):
>Karlach: Hey, so, what's romance like in the Underdark, Minthara?
>Minthara: In Menzoberranzan, romance is commonly a luxury enjoyed between women. Men are mostly present for propagation.
>Minthara: Here on the surface, gender does not define one's role so strictly. There are weaklings of every sort.
And:
>Karlach: It's funny seeing you so smitten, Minthara. Didn't think you were able.
>Minthara: I took my first lover before you were a spark in your father's eye, child.
>Karlach: Go on.
>Minthara: She was a high priestess of House Vandree. Beautiful, elegant, ruthless.
>Minthara: I adored her, and had been sharing her bed for some time when the order came that she must die.
>Minthara: I stayed with her while the poison did its work, and whispered words of comfort as she slipped away.
>Karlach: Oh no.
That or relegate them to breeding more slaves. We castrate male draft animals all the time, drow wouldn't be any different.
Didn’t realize they went that deep with it. I do appreciate the attempt at discussing romance amongst the drow. It does seem to match up with some others in this thread about how the males are simply so low that they are nothing but breeding stock, romance is for the higher caste.
Reminds me of this excerpt from DotMM
Given how utterly sociopath drow women are and how terrifying it must be to be a male dealing with them, I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of male drow have had a """bro""" they spent some intimate time with.
I'm not even doing a thing, it's just the logical conclusion of how awful drow society is. the women are all murderers incapable of ever letting their guard down around each other for a moment, and the men are terrified disposable second class citizens who can probably only ever realistically expect to find a moment of emotional release with another man.
I remember in the late 90s or early 00s there was a reference to how it's not uncommon for the all male scouting parties to basically be composed of """ bros""" who confide in one another and so on.
Let's not forget that drow males aren't helpless victims - they're every bit as sociopathic and violent as female drow.
Funny thing is the Draka books are pretty good alt-history/sci-fi as long as Stirling keeps off the lesbian BDSM - which he goes more and more into as the series progresses.
As Baldur's Gate III indicates, its likely that female drow would see other, younger females as romantic partners (who would engage in relations with a male for romantic purposes?) - see classical Athens, feudal Japan, the medieval Islamic world, and even the Draka for examples. Maybe it is encouraged to keep the backstabbing down to a reasonable level.
and if I may add, Drow don't just have female>male
their society is way more nuanced like that
it is more like noble female>noble male>commoner female>commoner male>lower class
and then we have the Baenre which are way on top, followed by the seven houses on the ruling council, and then we go slowly all the way down
and of course, we have the masters of the different schools which are also way on the top
>which is why someone like Pharaun gets to give someone like Quenthel so much lip which came back to bite him in the ass, literally
a lower-caste female would never demand sex from a male they KNOW is from a higher caste than they are
they'd ask nicely and slowly slink away if they'd hear a 'no'
also there's Tiago Baenre(male drow), for whom consent is optional
plus there are a lot of fallen female drow, who lost Lolth's favour in one way or another
like Danifae's 'nightmare time' in Resurrection comes to mind
they become prostitutes living in slums
and influential males who made their name either as mercenaries or merchants (or wizards)
>the three male M's: Merc, Merch, or Mage
>noble female>noble male>commoner female>commoner male>lower class
Wrong. Multiple sourcebooks indicate the highest caste male would never be above the lowest caste female
>Indicate
And I'm sure you got some source which indicates this, because it is hard for me to imagine the like of Gromph, Jarlaxle or even Pharaun to be below the lowest caste female
>homosexual rape as a flex. I also had the idea drow nobles (male and female) would keep human/light elf slave girl harems like SM Stirling's Draka. Sexual violence such as castration, impalement through the anus are frequent atrocities inflicted on captured male foes.
that is too sexual in its description and too much 40k dark eldar with details, keep it vague in the games as you are still playing a game and not twisted pornographic sadomasochism but with swords and spells. Also your friends might be drinking and eating something and would not want be given the urge to vomit. Yes dark elves are fricked up, but do not frick up the table.
Also if drow males rape other drow males as a form of domination then they would get murdered eventually by some of them and would abandon the practice since the sexual act is fundamental and breaches like that can overcome the survival instinct making the raped kill the rapist without regards for his possible execution later. This would be banned among each other.
human/light (i assume you mean surface elves, as if actual mythological Light Elves, if a single Light Elf was kidnapped there would be a world war and the lands of the dark elves would become empty husks almost all dark elves would be slain, no cities would be left just some remnants of dark elves here and there) elf slave girl harems would be assumed to exist but surface elves even in fantasy despite the various stuff written in novels to make the drow look fierce are not weak military-wise they are superior. They kicked the drow under the earth and they can kick them to non-existence if need be.
tbh drow also love to enslave and subjugate powerful races just because they can, and it probably gives them some sort of power high
same reason they enslave 'adventurers'
>then pull a surprised Pikachu face when those races/adventurers 'unexpectedly' and suddenly rise up
>enslave and subjugate powerful races j
mind flayers are better at it
which is kind of funny because drow also often team-up with mindflayers
>they'd team up with the Gith but the Gith hate mind flayers and always attack them which makes it hard to get some good trade relations going
>drow also often team-up with mindflayers
cannot ever trust a mind flayer even more you cannot a dark elf
> True, but I think drow, being as sadistic as they are, would have prison rules for sexuality - homosexual rape as a flex.
This is what I argue.
>I also had the idea drow nobles (male and female) would keep human/light elf slave girl harems like SM Stirling's Draka.
i suppose this works since the females couldn’t get pregnant but male sex slaves could never be a thing. Why would a noble woman ever sully their womb with a lesser creatures spunk, regardless of what the porn illustrators would have you believe.
is Drowtales still a thing?
Just looked it up and apparently it ended in 2022. Which turned out to be a huge wtf moment for me. THough they do have a new comic called Hel
It's ended. And the ending is a letdown.
>male sex slaves could never be a thing
actually, pictured here, male sex slave to drow couple for two years
>Why would a noble woman ever sully their womb with a lesser creatures spunk, regardless of what the porn illustrators would have you believe.
Wouldn't they just sterilize them, then?
To what end? As others have described, drow see sex as a tool, a tool to leverage power over others. Letting a slave frick you would be something only a super deviant would do
it would only be less than ideal when it is a human, drow breed true so any elf/drow would just be another drow with like green eyes
>but who would be suicidal enough to point that out to your matron mother
>you want a face full of snakes? that's how you get a face full of snakes
also technically the dark elves (ancestors of the drow) bred with their moon elf/sun elf slaves so it is a long line of (elven) rape babies
>and then Lolth happened and shit went (literally) down, with the shit being the dark elves and the down being the underdark
This pic gave me an idea for a version of drow who go a bit the biopunk route and use spider appendages and other insectoid parts in their architecture and technology. For example, cranes and elevators that are basically giant, controlled spider legs - and your picture can be recreated in this way: misfortunate captives trapped in web for a game of chess observed by a large host of drow, the spider leg crane is used to move the pieces on the board or to rip/twist their heads and kill them as the game progresses
>ultimate epitome of will to power
the problem is with the myriad drizzt novels, with half-drow, with drow all over the place with drow wal-marts and whatever their image in the game has become something not rare or special but some still cool but fading pseudo-fierce dark dudes or gals.
They have become common, accessible, flat and approaching the level of lame and boring.
where is the mystery about the coal black elves somewhere under the earth?
Thinned to death just like Salvatore's bank account was fattened.
>elf slave girl harems
this would actually be impossible, the elf would commit suicide or dream herself out of her body and die. However that works.
This has become a hentai manga porn thing and concept.
Humans can be kidnapped, but elves would be missed and sought out. They have a divinations and magical powers and can find out what is going on, its not some human farmer.
>drow competitive mutual yuri rape for the purposes of pecking order
anon please, i can only get so erect.
How do they determine who wins such rape?
Is it the first to cum loses?
well, it's about power. So it's who ever ends up dominating the strugglefricking.
What if they're both power bottoms?
you're not really getting the concept here.
>SM Stirlings Draka
How is it possible this dude and this series doesn't get talked about and laughed at more? He literally created an entire alt history universe to justify his femdom d/s fetish
It's pretty good for what it is. It's sleazy and fun, and the Draka themselves can twirl a mustache like few other villains in fiction. If you can't enjoy it because the alt timeline doesn't quite add up or because the Draka-Nazi war is logistically impossible or whatever, then you need to get into a pulpier mindset.
I've read it before, I just don't get how he never got bullied for it more. Like, you seem like you've read the trilogy which manages to maintain a slightly restrained kink level, but did you read the time travel sequel set 1000 years after the Draka win that literally actually has them create a fetish society of submissive beautiful normal humans who are biologically hardwired to get aroused in their mere presence?
The time travel novel is such a wild ride that I can't bring myself to shit on it. It's like if a smut writer was commissioned to do the official novelization for Terminator 2 and had free rein to change whatever he felt like; it's awesome in its own bizarre way. He probably does deserve to be bullied for it, but he also deserves kudos for the sheer balls it took to write and publish something like that under his real name.
I liked the part where in the first 20 pages the 6'4 literal ubermensch caricature woman (who's parents enslaved the nazis) has to 16 year old teenagers sent to her to ravish by slave scientists.
You think it can't get more insane but it's just a continual ascent from that to her acquiring a harem of trophies, mindbreaking people (even a gay man who had never been attracted to women before) and raping gangbangers.
It feels like he's tried to bury the book somewhat and forget it exists, but I remember. Just like how before Scott Westerfield created the first YA novels he had a weird scifi thing that opened with a teenager literally tentaclefricking a robot into sentience.
He hasnt tried to bury the series because it's embarrassing. He has said the time travel one in particular would make a great movie if he ever gets a deal with Hollywood. However he doesn't often talk about the series anymore because his old publisher, who hold the legal rights to it, took it away from him because they were mad about how he kept letting the villains win. Losing his baby to pearl clutchers is a painful memory for him, so he keeps it in the past.
>not frick each other constantly?
Simply
Dark Elf women want to frick you, the dark elf man, but above that they want to frick you over and frick you up.
They do, though. They frick like crazy and use either magical or chemical means to prevent conception.
thanks, Ed
>drow
>contraception
Absolutely not, for one they need as high a birthrate as possible to counter all the backstabbing and Underdark threats, plus there's the chad-zak, the death battles of multiple fetuses that cause the mother an orgasmic ecstacy beyond comprehension each time one of them dies, a gift from Lolth to encourage more breeding.
Fricking hell
>plus there's the chad-zak
People need shut up about it, it's not canon for everything drow and all settings. Yes, you know some cool lore snippet, it's outrageously hilarious, we know.
Might as well not talk about drow at all if we can’t talk about the one “interesting” thing about them.
drow have many interesting things about them, bregan d'aerthe, different drow gods and their worshippers and how they interact with each other
>especially Eilistraee and Vhaeraun because they're the only ones who actually matter aside from Lolth
you could write so many interesting stories about drow
drow cities which are not named Menzoberranzan and so on
>really wonder what happened to Ched Nasad
they're sitting on a fricking treasure trove and won't touch it
>plus there's the chad-zak
There is not. Shut the hell up.
>What makes these people not frick each other constantly?
What makes you think they don't?
I wonder if you read any drow-related books
they frick a lot
like those 50+ cousins have to come from somewhere and drow like Drizzt, Valas and Ryld seem more like the exception to the rule
They do tho?
Hedonism is not productive.
Look at the Melniboneans, the direct inspiration for D&D's drow. They had taken hedonism to such an extreme that their civilization, once the most powerful empire in the world, collapsed within a few years of their Emperor's attentions being diverted by a Black Blade.
Drow are a society of slaves, where even the most powerful Drow are slaves to the Spider Queen. If they don't work hard, they will be eliminated, or worse. It's actually impressive to imagine they do anything for fun at all, considering they are constantly fighting for their lives to appease their Goddess the best they can.
Drow have shitty lore and better made dark elves should exist elsewhere
I like dunmer for that reason. Frankly Melbourne elves suck, and I have to try and force myself to continue reading Elric for how much I detest the prose (Doesn't help at least some of the stories are first person I think? And others are written like a stage play). Endlessly edgelore hyper villain is fine if they're something to massacre like Ayleid elves but I'd rather something a little more banal than Slaaneshi human-harps and using slaves like you use toothpicks.
>Also if drow males rape other drow males as a form of domination then they would get murdered eventually by some of them and would abandon the practice since the sexual act is fundamental and breaches like that can overcome the survival instinct making the raped kill the rapist without regards for his possible execution later. This would be banned among each other.
>This would be banned among each other.
If you're unfamiliar with the term just look up Russian prison rape/military rape culture. Male rape would be exceedingly common and mundane for drow given how little males are valued, how short and brutish and nasty their lives are, how women are out of reach for them and unless elven sexual impulses are low they will be as men are without access to women (Prisons, british navy, Russian military, Taifali/Heruli). This is just stuff we shouldn't see regularly depicted in game/lore because of how magical realm uncomfortable it is same way I'm not a fan of dysentery showing up in my roleplay.
moronic hohol detected
Work on your art.
>inb4 not all drow are Menzoberranzan drow
You need a safe place to frick. Thus introducing my new business idea: drow love hotels
>clandestine entrances all throughout the city
>drag your willing or unwilling partner to the entrance and have them searched by professionals
>all concealed weaponry disposed of, secret poisons neutralized, latent enchantments dispelled, hidden spiders re-homed
>rooms with top notch sound proofing, durability, and stain resistance
>guards oversee activity to intervene when needed to protect paying clients
>or when the client just wants a little assistance
>post-coital return of the paramour/victim to their appropriate household in good/fair condition
>appropriate healing/mending/memory erasure as needed
>some of those nice chocolate mints on your pillow
All for reasonable prices! How much do you value your boning time? Don't you want to do it right?
There's one tiny little problem with the enterprise - the staff running the place would need to be 100% trustworthy. Which is not the sort of employees available commonly Underdark.
Hire some Modrons, they aren't Good but are 100% trustworthy.
Imagine letting a client of yours come to harm! The shame of it would shut down an entire branch location So individual would be betrayers must have very, very good reason to protect their clients. Good pay is half the equation: why take a bribe when you are already well off? The consequence for disobeying the hotel company would also have to be extremely harsh. Even for drow. Ten years of torture hardly seems enough. No, their very soul needs to be in jeopardy. I'm sure some magical contingency can be arranged. It will add to the overhead, but that all gets passed on to the customer. Poor drow can rut in the dirt like high elves or at their matron's house like spoiled children.
Never seen it
>Client comes to harm
>Entire branch is shut down
>Hotel staff is tortured and shamed
If someone can cause all that by putting some poison in a client's coffee then you'll have every drow in the underdark trying to sabotage this hotel. Then there's the ambitious junior staff trying to rise in rank or the senior staff trying to get uppity juniors punished. Hundreds of sexy drow in maid outfits will die over this while Lolth laughs.
what picture from?
Akiba Maid War.
looks like some sort of maid war
>Hazbin Love Hotel
there are cooler cities out there than Menzoberranzan, but nobody cares about them because the Baenre/Drizzt don't come from there
they reach from cultural melting pots (Erelhei-Cinlu only has 40% drow) to cities ruled by mages (Sshamath) and then there are cities which have way more people(drow?) in it than Menzoberranzan (like Eryndlyn)
my fav is Orlytlar though- it's kind of like Las Vegas except in a cave and with way more crime and an entire city district which they put underwater for the fish people
>they're LIBERTARIAN drow
>an entire city district which they put underwater for the fish people
Flood the entire city and make it underground drow Rapture with magic heroin.
>when you give the level 25 drow wizard magic weed and return five minutes later to find the entire cave flooded
>"It sounded like a good idea at the time"
How would that work more specifically. No Queens, No Gods only Drow? How much of a wizard would you need for an undersea city in dnd language, Is 25 actually reasonable? Maybe some sort of injectable oil that gives multiple uses of a spell? Half golem daddies?
>there are cities which have way more people(drow?) in it than Menzoberranzan
Not anymore.
Nulore retconned Menzo to be the oldest and greatest lolth city despite it being relatively new and insignificant in old lore.
this is bullshit, you can't just make nulore and ignore everything which came before it!
Menzo had been the model all descriptions of drow cities were based off since the Drizzt books despite it originally not being the largest city and being kind of an outlier in how fanatically devoted to Lolth they were. At this point might as well make it official, given most players don't even know other drow cities exist.
Why would I rape my maidens in an establishment run by someone else, when I have perfectly good villa of my own for it? Do you think I have the time to purge the room in your love hotel of scrying magic every time I want to ravish someone? Who the frick does your establishment cater to? Some lowborns who don't have enough wealth to keep their own rape lairs?
Your business idea disgusts me.
how many maidens do you rape that you need your own personalized rape lair?
This is from Dungeon of the Mad Mage.
>Unless combat in area 7c draws their attention, two female drow named Pellanonia Auvryndar and Ghirith Nhilran are engaged in a consensual act of torture in this room
>Drow. A large, rotating platform with leather straps takes up most of the room. Pellanonia is strapped to the platform while Ghirith lashes her with a scourge.
>Gear. Lying on a chair in the northeast corner are Pellanonia's armor and weapons.
>Pellanonia and Ghirith are lovers. If she must, Pellanonia can slip free of her bonds with a successful DC 15 Dexterity (Sleight of Hand) check. Once free, she tries to arm herself. As a daughter of House Auvryndar, she uses her status in the house as a shield, claiming that she's worth more alive than dead.
>This room and the one before it on the 3rd level are what peaked my interest in this topic. I feel if i was playing a male drow and came across this i would try to extort Pellanonia. She’s literally being dominated.
Sounds hot
logically speaking shouldn't good Elistrean drow communities have explosive population growth?
Most elistrean communities are small and matriarchal, and don’t have nearly as much necessity to propagate, you know since there’s no backstabbing, ritual sacrifices, and their goddess isn't just a cult leader
they're still drow so they'll still have the same potential birthrate and still have sex, and because they don't kill most of their children they'd end up with a ton of them
not all drow are evil psychopaths, some just want to dance naked in the moonlight
I'm saying you're giving up alot to dance naked.
The lowest ranking woman in Drow society tends to outrank the highest ranking man in the room.
Why give that up for a bunch of naked guys dancing in pond water with bastard swords to the useless daughter of your edgelord spider goddess.
Worst yet they don't believe in rampant slavery and killing the short ones you probably grew up loving killing the short ones
They're intensely persecuted by other Drow, and the only major community of them has them as maybe a plurality. It's far to the south and relatively irrelevant to the Sword Coast.
Because Elistrean drow force feminize their men.
I'm only half joking, the deep ed greenwood canon lore is that male priests of Ellistrea must, if they want to have actual powers, undergo the "change dance" and live as or actually become women for a time.
Got retcon'd
And I'm not even mad about it, it would make sense that the children of a man hating baby-eating spider who is into femdom turn equalists
>Also Vhaeraun is a lot more gender inclusive
>It just happens that most of his clerics are men because- well why would a woman care about men's rights when Lolth already makes her a powerful cleric?
Are all drow like this? Is it that the higher up the social ladder you go the more conniving and rapey they get?
I'm currently working on a setting where not!drow are the main focus (it's set on not!morrowind and the inhabitants a fusion of the dunmer, classic drow, melniboneans, tzimeze) and so I'm trying to figure out how to characterize everybody. As in, do I make them all haughty and conniving, using slaves for most manual labor. Do I just make the upper classes like that, and have the peasantry be more "normal", sending their own farms and smoking crack in the off seasons?
They may be perverts, but they hate each other.
I bet they'd rather jerk off.
Drow are physically weak and lacking in endurance and libido. So they have little sex.
I wonder who could be behind this post.
pissed off Duergar still seething about lost opportunities
Are drow into pegging?
No but they will be.
frick chromatic aberration makes digital art look like absolute shit
that entire thing makes zero sense
I'd just like to think Eillistrea's followers
>and Vhaeraun's for that matter
would a) rather sleep with surface elves
and b) wouldn't just get constantly knocked up
also
>teach her about how contraception works
yeah, because a 200-year-old elf doesn't know about contraception or abortions
>yeah, because a 200-year-old elf doesn't know about contraception or abortions
>Implying Lolth allows her followers to use contraception or have abortions
She needs drow to be breeding at a high enough rate to offset the absurdly high mortality rate. Assuming she's only recently moved to the surface, it's entirely possible a 200-year-old drow does indeed not know about contraception
that’s why slaves exist, why do you think we have drow with green eyes?
>or else the population of the kingdom will be 90 % half-drow within a couple of generations.
sounds good to me, better yet help her create a new good drow kingdom one mating press at a time
>coomer thread
Ugh
>drow thread
Pic rel
>see everyone around her as a sexual conquest
If hedonism became the no1 thing in dark elf society, of any city, that city would be eradicated from internal and external factors within a few years at most. The no1 thing is always Power and always not sexual power.
Military, financial, resource, mortal races slaves, magic, monsters as slaves and so on.
>woman in this society
they are like asian tiger moms but a in a very wicked way (they don't want just their child to achieve and the rest) that is inhuman and far more extreme than anything imaginable but not like cougar-women sexually, however that expression is.
They are cruel to others and cruel to themselves. Extreme discipline.
Their hedonism is confined, in an iron cage with spikes pointing inside towards themselves and out towards others, though great.
They are hedonistic but not as a human is.
>Broodmare Dark Elves
As
pointed out, it's way more likely that they just have male drow frick female slaves to keep their numbers up. Any resulting males stay slaves while the daughters that can pass for full drow get to play with their big sisters. Consequently they probably have the highest population of half elves. It's just that they'll never admit that because someone finding out the high priestess is part dwarf will get you stabbed.
> Consequently they probably have the highest population of half elves. It's just that they'll never admit that because someone finding out the high priestess is part dwarf will get you stabbed
This just… is unbelievable. If anything i’d think male drow would be the ones creative half-drow and the likely hood of one looking identical enough would be so few and far between it isnmt even worth mentioning. They’d just be slaves for the nobles if not outright exiled into the underdark.
>This just… is unbelievable
Because it's not a thing. Half-drow are rare.
Greyhawk had the city in Vault if the Drow have plenty of half-Drow, but in Greyhawk the city was a run down slum and the noble houses and their vassal families lived in estates surrounding it in the Vault.
it helps that they seemed to have more humans and even an entire ghetto of outsiders
unlike Menzo which has (had?) like 1% humans
like, I remember A SINGLE human in the Menzo ghetto in War of the Spider Queen (excluding some NPCs when they went to the surface) and like literally ZERO humans in the first Drizzt book (Homeland)
and considering how Drizzt talks about them, I'd argue the majority of Drow probably never see a single human in their life-time
I guess more 'cosmopolitan' drow-cities/settlements have more humans and other races and drow 'see' more of those races
the more I think about it the more I feel like Menzo is sort of like 'the bible-belt of Lolth' while other cities are more 'lax' but still kind of like 'oh yeah we're still Lolth-sworn, but we’re not as crazy about it as those menzos- you see we don't enslave everyone, we just hate poor people'
so how sadistic are drow? if you're a drow male does your mom or sister wake you up in the kennel by kicking you in the face with a steel toed boot? or is it more like extreme chauvinism?
Depends on how much they like you. If they do like you, they'll give you the privilege of licking your blood off their boots.
If they don't, they'll mostly ignore you and make you do boring menial tasks in between getting pegged by them and their friends.
>If they don't, they'll mostly ignore you and make you do boring menial tasks in between getting pegged by them and their friends.
And this is bad how?
I refuse to believe pegging is popular among drow. Fecundity is the most important part of sex for them, why would they participate in sodomy?
No christgays to call booty fun sodomy.
Oouuuuuu, he’s scared of the christian boogeyman that terrorize our fantasy bored. Frick off, I’m Hindu. And white.
Most ancient civilizations tended to look down on men who were sexually submissive towards other men though.
Banging another man is acceptable.
Being banged by a man is disgusting.
Being pegged is fine as despite the appearances, you are the one with the power
>Being pegged is fine as despite the appearances, you are the one with the power
keep telling yourself that
What if a significantly weaker man sticks his wee tadger up your bum, solely because you allow it? Are you then, somehow, not the one with all the power?
why am I arguing with a Tate proponent
They looked down on tops too. All the gays were disliked. The "They only hated bottoms" thing was revisionist tripe.
This is a fictional, matriarchal society that already looks down on men as a whole.
What's your point?
Pegging is gayer than two men having sex.
you in the closet or something?
>is with a woman.
>wants to be the one who is is penetrated.
Don't project your closted homosexuality onto me.
You gotta either get with the times or get in the box, old man. You’ll be floating down the river in no time
The times are gay and I'll stand my ground youngin. Someone has to.
You can take my life but you'll never make me gay.
Bad news. You're already gay
N-nani?!
While he is a sad sexual luddite, don't forget you are just as river-bound as him.
t. 38 years old
every morning brings a new ache in the body, every night brings a new way to sleep poorly
>sleep
Git gud.
I'm 42 and have no pain when I squat double my bodyweight or run 20kms
Do you have kids and a full-time job that requires an hour's drive both ways? If so, tell me your secrets
Yes except only 15 minute drive.
Gym after work so there's no traffic on the way home, long run on Sunday mornings.
Go to bed early
How do I apply to join Drow society?
It's your game, who's stopping you?
Sexuality
Sex is the primary source of entertainment for Dark
Elves. Since it cannot be used for procreation, it is used
as therapy, diversion, a fun pastime, a competition, a
method for political advancement, and so on. There are
almost no religions that require a Dark Elf to take up a
vow of celibacy and the few that do are seen as weird
deviants. There are no formal rules on sexual
relationships because sex, marriage, and procreation
are completely separate from one another. Dark Elf
attitudes towards sexuality are derived from their
biology.
The first is the obvious one – no sexual union will result
in a child, which defeats the primary biological purpose
of sex in other species. This means there’s no risk of
getting pregnant, no need to be concerned about
bastards, or having any sort of physical evidence of an
affair. Most marriages in Dark Elf society are
monogamous and might even be stipulated in the
marriage contract. Polygamy is not frowned upon and it
really depends on the family unit.
The other aspect of Dark Elf sexuality is the gender
ratio. Women outnumber men three-to-one, so while
female-male pairs are the goal, they are not always
possible. First off, many Dark Elf women tend to engage
in homosexual relationships, against which there is no
stigma. The other is the role of men. Generally
speaking, men are the lesser sex in the Dark Elf
matriarchal society, and as such, unless they are
married, they will be passed around from woman to
woman with no real say in the matter. And the truth is,
this does happen. But a pragmatic-minded male can
absolutely use this attitude to leverage his position to
“climb the ranks,” and achieve greater personal goals.
Because of these two chief components, Dark Elves
have a very laid-back attitude towards sex. Outside of
the marriage contracts that expect monogamy, sex is
free and readily available in many social situations.
There's precedent for them to frick a lot, and precedent for them not to.
In my personal Underdark setting I've got one house that are in a big sexual-manipulation war between males and females, that buy their security by providing other houses or factions with regular 'outcastes' to use as sacrifices, female concubines (to show off, as they're considered especially beautiful and delicate) or slaves (they've actually reverse-eugenics' themselves by casting out the most cut-throat, leaving only the most 'safe' or rules-abiding).
And another house that's basically Fantasy Charcharadons. Bigger and darker than average, whole shark theme with masks and spiked armour, brutal martial culture and initiation rites, firmly misandristic and quite cannibalistic (amusingly, hunting and martial honour rites, need to band together against local hazards, chivalric bend and appreciation of swords has led them to follow Eliastraee in all but name).
Drow are, as a race, one of the best aspects of DnD. They're fairly unique, relatively very exotic, and yet are variable and flexible enough as a concept to fit a lot of roles or angles.
>Shark themed
>Cannibals
Did you get that idea from the multiple fetuses eating each other lore?
No actually, I got that from a couple spots of lore that said that Drow don't recognize other races as equal, and how Drow may or may not do edgy shit to lesser races.
So I figured that they'd eat Duregar or Humans as a point of delicacy or somesuch.
The Shark theme came about just as a matter of developing culture, with them being big on quiet violence, living bordering the Lowerdark, and favouring a kind of ambush, fast assault warfare.
Similarly with being an Eliastraee cult, I made them when she wasn't a big thing, and didn't know about her, but they just naturally came together in a way that later on, matched her to a T.
Also the multiple fetus' eating each other is called Autophagy, and actually does occur irl with Sharks. Which I didn't know about until later, but I do actually quite like as minor Drow lore, to emphasize that life is hard down there.
The Celtic dark elves were said to eat humans from time to time and practice vivisection for fun, probably where Moorwiener got the idea for his Melniboneans (the prototype for drow) doing the same. I decided to take the vivisection and ritual human eating for my dark elves as well.
It wouldn't be something you'd do to a drow unless you wanted his family to assassinate you.
As if his mistress would even let him leave her side for the chance.
Almost all taverns will have a brothel attached to them.
Most religions will have a sexual component. Pleasure
slaves are always in high demand and there are those
who made their fortunes doing so. Dark Elves are not
shy about having sex with slaves and foreigners and
quite a few of them work as prostitutes, courtesans,
entertainers, and so forth in human and demi human
regions, with no cultural stigma against it internally,
though obviously there are those who decry the loose
morals of the women and men of the Dark Elves.
With all this, it must also be noted that in addition to
being entertainment, Dark Elves do recognize the power
of using sex as a trade good and method of influence.
As mentioned before, Dark Elf men can be passed
around within the same social group to generate favors
and influence for both the women and the men. The
Dark Elven courtesans use their beauty and sexual
prowess to influence the foreigners. And since Dark Elf
society generally has their obsession about power and
dominance, there is no real concept of power
imbalance in sexual relations beyond the most obvious
slave-master relationship.
What's with Dark elves of all sorts loving femdom?
Reminder, homosexuality is romance or sex between members of the same sex, not the sex acts themselves. If a woman pushes a mans head into her crotch, smacks his ass, pegs him, etc. that is not gay sex, that is straight sex. You’re simply submissive
Femininity is what’s attractive to me
it's still sodomy (or buggery if you're heathen) and therefore shameful and condemnable
Why do all you christcucks feel the need to wave your moronation everywhere?
It's pretty good bro. I enjoy regular fricking but getting dommed makes me cum so hard.
Gonna have to agree with
on this one, bucko. Learn how to enjoy sex, if you’ve ever even had it.
homies forget our g spot is in our butts
Our g-spot is in our foreskins, it's just removed for purposes of profit.
Only removed if you're israeli or slave to the israelites.
The civilised world all have ours
foreskin is more like male clit
I see, you did your part for Kellogg.
3 separate things
erotic fantasy regarding fantasy elves, drow, high etc. Keep it personal and not in the actual tabletop games. Kept inside you, its fun potentially but makes huge a mess.
complete bullshit written by "established" and "respected" authors of D&D. To the trash pile. They deceived the paying customer by writing idiocies (see deities and demigods, legends and lore, thoughts of darkness adventure, drow words for actual love and higher virtuous concepts, and a ton of other published material from all settings and editions, from Original D&D to 5e or the 6e/D&D one aka we cannot even properly number editions game) and inaccuracies due to their laziness and worthlessness of character. Junk, throw that away. Outside.
Common fricking sense and read on mythology and folklore and everything related to it. Keep that and add or subtract from the game so it does not suck and the 2 above do not make you waste your time, your money and your enjoyment of the hobby.
the game has become flat and was getting flattened since day one
Because, as strange as modern society may make it seem, people actually do want things other than sex.
> Be drow "teenager."
> Be very horny.
> your gigachad brother catches the eye of a matron's 3rd daughter.
> The daughter you had eyes for.
> want to kill him.
> Decide against it because he occasionally gets you more food.
> It's a year before you see him again.
> see his face bruised and covered in scratch marks.
> see him in the finest of silks walking with said matron's daughter near the slave quarters.
> manage to catch him for a conversation.
> apparently, beatings are "how she shows her love" and slashing is what she does when she's mad.
> insists he's ok with it
> find him in the spider cages a week later when sent to clean them.
> skinned.
> becomes obvious where your brother's girlfriends new 'dress' came from.
> hear there was some bullshit about a sister trying to seduce him. 3rd sister just got tired of the games and killed him instead of her sibling.
> just see that b***hes face when looking at other women now.
Hmn. I can see why such a society is far less horny than the way they dress would appear to suggest.
>domgays jumping through logic hoops trying to convince themselves they are not gay.
Kek. Always funny.
Hey there sexy momma
drow women should be bound, gagged and kept in direct sunlight with their holes easily accessible to be completely honest and frank with you
Okay please someone help me out. I have been trying to search for hours for a previous dnd editions campaign that follows a couple drow houses and the players are expected to plays as drow. I can’t for the life of me find the name of it.
You people are worthless, I found it. It’s called Council of Spiders
Thank goodness this wasn't an AI image though, because apparently that makes a thread worse
>Yes.jpg
nah, there's sexier drow posted in /slop/ daily
I prefer my jack off material to be made by someone who can, y'know, get off on it.
that's dumb
Making a robot capable of cumming probably is within realm of technological possibility nowdays.
this thread inspired me, thoughts on these dark elves?
Bad.
Thin your paints.
>Drow are canonically manlets/femlets
>"Anyway, this is my character Dip the drow and he's 6 feet tall"
I am going to be honest, I’d just ignore that part too
>dom femlet
Why'd you ignore that though? That sounds grand.
>why does the drow keep their elf teammate in chains?
>it's the only way they can see eye-to-eye
D&D's Tolkien/Poul Anderson/Moorwiener style elves being midgets for some reason is so weird to me, as someone who came to D&D via those fantasy stories and Gaelic folklore. These elves are coded as ancient northern European aristocracy, they should be fairly tall on average.
That's why you find smaller than average elves whenever they are negatively connoted, for instance your regular HFY fantasy.
They live underground. It's not hard to figure out
>ancient northern European
They were manlets.
Because of malnutrition, why wouldn't they still be taller than all other ethnic groups, relatively speaking, just like they are now?
Nobility had better food than most people, they would have been tall on average. Hence the comment about them being coded as nobility.
Tolkien's elves were tall. The Hobbit describes Elrond as a full head taller than Gandalf, though Gandalf's shoulders were much broader.
Very true, they were also tall in Anderson and Moorwiener's work too, as well as in Irish myth at least.
They're sort of like the Spartans but without the autistic level of disdain for anything not related to combat - they engage in typical aristocratic/elven pursuits - training for war, studying the arcane arts, hunting, and composing poetry, music, and other arts.
I recall the nobility/warrior caste of that kingdom were half-drow, the commoners understandably were not. Obviously a kingdom being ruled by half-drow after a violent drow conquest has...unpleasant implications.
They're almost guaranteed to sacrifice/abort the child.
Interestingly, or not, it's something that D&D itself has gone back and forth on.
Gygax liked smaller elves, I have read in books that this is because he liked fairy tale elves, I have heard from people who knew him that after the hobbit worries he decided shorter elves was safer for future copyright concerns.
During the TSR era, the default and Greyhawk used shorter elves as Gygax intended, but individual settings were allowed to deviate.
Forgotten Realms and Dark Sun both having tall elves for example.
Then when WotC first took over they kept this tradition. That is why the 3rd edition FRCS and Races of Faerun still mention elves as being as tall as humans while the PHB uses Greyhawk heights.
During the change to 3.5e there was a decision to also standardize all races across all settings, which is why every setting suddenly had 50 flavors of elf and 30 flavors of dwarf since they all existed next to one another and they all used the Greyhawk heights now, which is why the 3.5e Player's Guide to Faerun lists short elves.
During the D&D 4e days, chasing the popularity of the LotR movies years after the fact led to elves being standardized as a tall race across all settings.
And now in the 5e days they're standardized as small again.
These changes are kind of funny in context, because you have the early Drizzt books referring to Drizzt as a runt which he was in 2e, 3e, and 4e, but in 3.5e and 5e he's the drow equivalent of 6'4", his mom being called tiny also sticks out when she's near the top of drow female heights in the current edition.
Likewise Qilue is described as having the appearance of a typical drow matriarch in height and in her dominating presence, when she's 6 feet tall, an impossibly tall height for a drow in the current edition, and yet implies that this isn't out of the ordinary at all.
>In 5e they're standard as small again
And in Baldurs Gate(3) they're back to being as tall as the other 'medium' races
>You get two flavors: build like a tank or otter mode
But that could be cause it is a video game and they have video game restrictions
Though those games are also considered part of D&D/forgotten realms
maybe drow are just short because of malnutrition and magical radiation
>those giant pink magic pools
maybe female drow and some males just got lucky and managed to get better food and less radiation which is the reason some are taller than the average?
Two things - drow apparently have plenty of food, so they wouldn't be malnourished.
Secondly, all elves are arguably nobility - I had the same idea Tolkien did that elves elect their rulers from their own number. Of course, with drow you can always take over by successfully killing the current ruler if you don't agree with them.
The magical radiation has been around since AD&D and actually made Drow stronger through exposure. That was also when Drow were tall.
As far as the books have shown while Drow have class related issues in terms of lower and upper classes, neither are particularly malnourished.
In fact AD&D explains what malnourished drow look like and I can't think of one described drow who had those features.
Chad-zak is real
Wheenver i see a pic like this it really tricks my brain into thinking maybe OP looks exactly like that.
It’s true, I do.
>What makes these people not frick each other constantly?
I think they do. Just in ways that we would find repulsive.
Hello OP. You're looking very sexy today, just saying.
So what do most drow actually do? Considering manual labor and similar menial tasks are more often than not done by slaves, right?
train mages, fighters and clerics
>they also have bards and rogues but I suspect they're getting sorted out during their training to specialize
>drow wizard apprentice being like: Screw this, I am going to become a bard
whip slaves
enslave other races
they sure do love their drugs and sex
sacrifice surface elves (and each other) to their evil spider goddess
coming up with plans to backstab each other and eradicate other houses to climb up the social ladder
being paranoid about the lesser houses trying to eradicate their house to climb up the social ladder
accumulating wealth and power
and like every third month they have a fun hunting game in which they set the local favela on fire and kill every goblin, orc, gnoll (and other races; including lower class drow) entertainment for the drow of every age and sex
they also love shopping, braiding each other's hair and doing their nails, you know standard male stuff
The same reason worst koreans don't have a high birth rate.
The frick are you on about, leaf?
The women hate the men.
I saw more affectionate couples out in public during my year in Korea than I do now back in the USA.
You know, we should really see half-drow more. I bet they'd be useful as spies if nothing else.
Half-drow viking warrioresses? Sign me up
Half-drow would be as suspicious as regular drow, for the same reasons as you think they should be more present.
And again, drow don't like to racemix downwards.
Isn't there a nation in DnD canon that got invaded by the drow, and a few generations later the population was mostly half-drow?
>canon
It was retconned out of the setting and it was more complicated than that, some other half-elves also played some role.
Even with this minor small kingdom existing at some point in the lore (forgot its name), doesn't change the fact that drow see themselves as superior than most other races and actually care about their genetic make-up. Again, half-drow are rare for a reason. It's mostly /tg/ that brings that small kingdom up for coombrained reasons (even though, iirc, it was more drow men taking human slaves) as some kind of evidence that all these lusty drow girls are totally over those awesome humans and their lack of a constitution malus, oh boy. So much better than spell resistance, increased charisma, intelligence and dexterity, inherent spellcasting and dark vision.
I think it was actually loviatars half-elf priestesses taking drow males to make more half-drow
for some reason Loviatar and Lolth seemed to get along great
Dambrath went through several versions.
AD&D Shining South version: many years after a king successfully led a raid into Halruaa that led to the destruction of the nation's greatest school of magic and several of its most important arch mages, setting back the nation's magical research in ways that have never been recovered from, his lazy descendant by many generations ordered mining in a new area that had recently been discovered as being resource rich. Drow living there sent back several corpses and a message saying "frick off, we're full"
The new king said in the name of his great great grandfather this land is his and he's taking it.
Many dead humans later a group of loviataran priestesses who happened to be all moon elves arrive and see the land is ripe for the taking.
They struck a deal with the drow to help alleviate some of the city's problems (particularly ones caused by mass overpopulation) for an army.
Drow saw it as two birds with one stone, so a massive army of drow slaves was sent to the surface, bishbashbosh drow tells the army not to come back, Dambrath is the aftermath of a war where drow won and then decimated/fricked the population to death.
The book goes so far as to say there are jokes about how impossible it is to find a pure human in the land now, and those who claim to be pure are considerably more swarthy than their ancestors who once ruled the land.
The ruling class is almost entirely drow and half drow/half-elf though.
3e Shining South: much of the history is left out, and now instead of the army raping and pillaging the land, they returned home after a successful mission, leaving the half-drow/half-elves in charge.
4e Forgotten Realms: There weren't that many half-drow to begin with and they didn't have big noble families so one bloody coup later fixed that whole situation, it's now generic war torn fantasy land.
5e Forgotten Realms: Shining South?
Dambrath was great. By 2nd edition the writers had given it a really unique yet plausible and grounded cultural identity. It had lots of neat little quirks too, like how the dolphins living near the capital port city were oddly helpful and would rescue drowning sailors, and were so universally loved by the population that the Loviatar priestesses declared the dolphins sacred to Loviatar and gave the death penalty to anyone who harmed one. But the core premise of the country was problematic so it got unceremoniously thrown in the garbage in 4th edition.
>But the core premise of the country was problematic so it got unceremoniously thrown in the garbage in 4th edition.
The core premise of DROW is problematic though. They're completely and irrevocably a racist trope.
True, but they reached a critical mass of popularity before "problematic" was a thing, so they get handled differently.
They're a huge plagiarism of Michael Moorwiener's Melniboneans who were intended as dark parody of the British Empire in its declining days. But also a mixture of Norse myth with some modern stuff. It wasn't just dark skin = evil.
>They're racist
What kind of ethnicity lives in caves and sacrifices elves to their evil spider queen while it's own race produces nothing of value and just murder-rapes everything they get their hands on?
>The British
Oh my God, it all makes sense now, and they're ruled by a queen too!
>Also dark elves have pointy ears and red eyes
>Calling then racist just because they're black(literally grey) is kind of weird, they're a FANTASY race
Salvatore's writing though is laying it on THICC
>Drizzt please, please stop
Do you hate her or do you want to frick her? Corellon is that you?
The ruling class of its society, yes. It's to the east.
Drow send out their albino kind to be spies, hiding in plain sight pretending to be other types of elves.
It's funny that the albinos exist only because Greenwood was asking how the frick drow are supposed to infiltrate anything when any one with detect magic will realize they're disguised, and TSR said "I dunno you figure it out"
apparently moon elves can also come in light blue; and so do drow
just take a lighter skinned drow and dye their hair
>isn't it a little weird to have moon elves with light blue skin? I am just thinking
>having a moon elf in the party who can cast darkness, dancing lights and fairy fire like: "Don't worry guys I have three cantrips"
>party falls down a chasm, everyone but the 'moon elf' is injured
>"How'd you survive that?"
>"...levitation?"
>the party starts giving weird sideways glances "You're a moon elf, right?"
>"...sure"
>DM: everyone but the 'moon elf' roll an insight check
also, I bet leucism could also exist in drow
To be fair that's a newer thing.
Drow have been charcoal black, now and always up until relatively recently.
Only albino moon elves are light blue (how albinism shows up among them).
Except in the 80s when they were briefly depicted with brown skin.
Likely the source for Pirotess of Record of Lodoss War who then inspired all subsequent anime dark elves to be brown-skinned with light hair.
Based Piro being the mother of all brown elffus
>Piro
Frick. Now that slopgay's name makes sense.
who?
Some gay in the ai slop threads who makes some oc donut steel waifu that's a brown elf with yellow eyes and white hair and named it piro.
Art depictions versus text depictions, though which one is more important I can't say.
Artists who did colored art were infamously told "black elves" and thought that meant "american black" and since the heads of TSR at the time really didn't give a frick about their own games/settings they never corrected it.
It's insanely that that happened at all.
>elves on the cover look like bimbos with fake tans and bleach blonde 80s hair that were both in style at the time
Yeah thats definitely what happened
wait until you see some of the oldschool forgotten realms covers
from what I've read it seems back in the old times the artists wouldn't even read the descriptions which were provided to them
>like look at 'Starless Night'- look how they massacred my boy!
Yeah, allegedly the artist read "45 year old elf" and called it a day since he doesn't have time to learn how elves work.
>45
>check wiki; do some math
>Drizzt is 60 in Starless Night
frick, dude hadn't even hit the magical 100 by that book but Drow officially become adults at 26 with their first blooding so they're a bit different from the other elves and their adults day care centres
Drow being considering adults in their 20s does prove that FR realm elves being considered adults at 100 is a cultural thing, since it's not likely drow would age that much faster than surface elves. Surface elves live long enough that they don't consider anybody with less than century of life-experience old enough to be considered an adult, but drow tend to live for a far shorter time so their definition of adulthood is much closer to humans.
In Greyhawk drow are supposed to reach biological adulthood at 100, though, which begs to question how they haven't gone extinct given how high their mortality rate is.
Drizzt had a hard life.
He should have just fricked his sister.
>Was basically his mom
>Is also his full-blooded sister
>First words from her mom regarding Drizzt: do not frick your brother
At least she got over it
>Two albino elves have twins
>One comes out literally white and the other covers out black
>"Babe, is there something you forgot to tell me?"
The joke is one is high elf albino and the other Drow albino
Albinism exists in humans to varying degrees. Being that elves are compatible enough to interbreed with humans, it's unlikely they have multiple types of melanin cells, therefore making leucism unlikely. Especially when the writers identify the pale Drow as albino. However, being that you can get Moon Elves ranging from blue, purple, to regular skin tones, it might be possible after all.
Hello OP. You're looking very sexy today.
Thank you
>black hair
>blue eyes
absolutely disgusting
>african nose
The most disgusting thing in this thread.
the former
>The former
Are you implying my BG3 romance with Minthara a lie!?
there are always exceptions. No race is monolithic
>Half Drow exist with human fathers
Pics or it doesn't exist
Gimme a few months. I'mma make it happen.
>this pic
I like to imagine she's a ditzy airhead whose just realized her top got caught by the table, and has yet to think of a way to extract herself with any shred of dignity, so she just freezes until she does. (she won't think of a way)
cute low int drow girls...
>slopper fantasizing about women on his intellectual level
Pottery
I prefer low wiz
why?
if you go too far down the intelligence scale you get literal morons; if you go too far down the wisdom scale you get a ditz
How would a Drow girl react to being told you have a fart fetish?
You're a gorgeous woman OP
they kind of do, but they also have a hierachy of murderous b***hes going
why did the trjannies delete my dark elf thread?
how autistic are you
What rule did it break?
I'm a dark elf enthusiast and spidergirl enjoyer and let me tell you it's all Lolth's fault. I hate her, she's the worst. Her BS is the only reason I can't get into Drow, the only Dark Elf in fiction I don't fricking dig and it's all thanks to her shit. This as nothing to do with the thread, I just need to rant about how much I hate this b***h.
10/10 spidergirl, would tie her on her own web and rail her.
Would it make sense for a (female) high elf slave to survive Drow slavery for a couple of years? You know, without getting sacrificed to Lolth
Depends on the edition.
The later the lore you use the more destructive drow are.
In 2nd edition for example, Greenwood described drow as having a spa culture, which doesn't exist in later editions. Ironically the jokes about drow males getting promoted due to being good at sex still exist, or at least existed up until relatively recently, but those jokes kind of rely on that spa culture enabling drow of differing social levels to interact without necessarily knowing where each other are on the totem pole. Otherwise when is a high ranking female actually going to frick a useless guy and discover he's good enough to spend money on?
replied to the wrong post?
>what makes these people not frick each other constantly
They do.
With a society that has a murder rate that high, they have to constantly be having children or they would collapse as a civilization.
Nobody tell OP about the semi canon drow womb murder orgasms.
I wish the Forgotten Realms was as much of a degen place as the people who seethepost about Ed Greenwood claim it was.
Truthfully, he just detailed how each town has a brothel (pretty true to life in ye olden days kek) and people had 70's relaxed norms toward sexuality. If Greenwood had been born a decade or two ago and grown up to be an adult in current year where pretty extreme kink is normalized (people will casually toss around dom and sub preferences when a decade ago nobody would have know what that was) in the west, well, then things might have gotten freaky.
Yeah, the only things that really are "out of the norm" is the fact that casual sex is so common and that Ed is an equal opportunist with armor, so just as there are mostly naked barbarian men there are many women who adventure in boots a belt and a cloak.
There has to be a better lore for drows than D&D
Yes mine that I've only used for an unfinished porn novel
please tell me more, I am mildly curious
Bronze age city state dark elves but they also discovered gun powder so they have medieval tier cannons and handgonnes/matchlocks alongside magic
more like tell me about the porn
defeated elf noblewomen get taken as slaves, carried away to a far away land and raped a lot to the point that they become the progenitors of an entirely new society of dark elves (elf mother = elf offspring in this case)
wouldn't they be light elves if they're kidnapped elf nobles though?
no the light elves are mostly primitive hunter-gatherer or basic agriculture tribes
Just to be clear: who does the raping and who gets the raping
human barbarian tribesmen do the rape, dark elves and a few light elves get the rape
Standard fantasy erotica slop then
At this point I might just write my own
please do, nothing wrong with classic premises
t. dwarf
Op you are so delightfully sexy
Forgive me, I don't know much about Drow, but I'm horny.
I'm imagining a society where they're not just a matriarchal society, they're also deeply misandric. The wealthy elites are dominated by romantically lesbian couples who have a harem of excellent breeding stock to service them.
I suppose they could marry their sons off to women, but if sexuality isn't an issue for most Drow women, why would you ever bother past once you're rich enough?
>I don't know much about Drow, but I'm horny
Yeah, that's drow threads.