there was a game anons were posting in succubus threads where if you win you get fricked to actual death by the succ while giving her orgasm so hard she's "exorcised", thats the goal of the game apparently
I think I know which game you mean. It starts by revealing that most females were actually succubi and follows multiple protagonists traveling a warped school/reality, resisting succ temptations only to fight and loose to the main ones (which were their love interests before all of that)
In MGQ:P a lot of girls have multiple sex scenes. To get most aside from the obvious losing ones you need to recruit them and then build up your relationship with them (either by using them in combat or by giving them gifts while they're on standby in the pocket castle).
The porn in the MGQ series is basically the low point. The writing is legitimately the best part of the series, especially for MGQ:P. I genuinely couldn't give two fricks about any of the characters' sex scenes. I enjoyed their personalities, dialogue, and interactions way more. Pic related. I got some good chuckles out of this dumb c**t's side quest
I actually really like a lot of the porn in MGQ. In fact I'm pretty sure I was playing MGQ when I jerked off 7 times in one day, which is still the most I've ever came. MGQP isn't as good because of some of the recycled scenes, but the new stuff that's there is pretty good imo.
I just wish there were some more vanillaish scenes with giant class monsters. Feels like most of them involve full body insertion or other weird shit. Just let me stick my penis in just one single giant girl's vegana instead of having every single one of them shove Luuka's entire body in their mouth or vegana
I really like a lot of monster girls and their sex scenes you are fricking moronic normalhomosexual if you think the porn is the low point. You can't write off the porn without the story and plot taking a huge hit.
That's what I don't understand about the monster girls that kill Luka in game overs, if you had a plate of food that'd regenerate as long as you left a little bit, why wouldn't you?
eat a human once, you're fed for a day
teach a human to cook you food in exchange for swordsmanship training, you eat for a lifetime
Alice and Luka are unironically cute together though and I wish there was more cutesy shit with them instead of coomer shit. Not having a MGQ part 4 where they raise children and work towards actually guiding the world towards their ideal was a mistake
>People tell him repeatedly that he's a fricking idiot whose ideals aren't as simple as he thinks they are to achieve >He agrees with them and spends the whole game and beyond rethinking his ideals, coming to terms with the fricked up reasons he has them in the first place, finding ways to reach them, and fostering peace
Truly one of the protagonists of all time
>dude just rape men in moderation
Often times the simplest advice is the most difficult. If Americans ate in moderation there would be no obesity or heart disease. If they drank in moderation there would be no liver disease. I really don't see the problem.
like a solid 3rd of all species regularly eat human flesh
a legit chunk of those are straight up mindless predators who can't distinguish between eating~ and actually eating
and some do need human flesh to survive iirc.
>If Americans ate in moderation there would be no obesity or heart disease
To be fair to Muricans, most of the food they consume is riddle with added sweeteners and what not to make it more addictive.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You don't think succubi are addicted to semen? It's still the same thing. Anon was claiming that Luka's advice was very easy and obvious and I was pointing out that it's more difficult than it seems at first.
I thought the Succubus Village plan was fine >Just make it a sex tourism destination
is simple yet effective
And though it's used for comedy, also thought it was nice that potato mayor thought to start a backup food supply in case volunteers and tourists dry up
>dude just rape men in moderation
Often times the simplest advice is the most difficult. If Americans ate in moderation there would be no obesity or heart disease. If they drank in moderation there would be no liver disease. I really don't see the problem.
>find pic related in a bar full of dead fricking homies because she loved sucking so much >she was full, never forced or close to starving, but never thought to stop sucking >the plan is to tell her "yeah chill out miss"
aren't succubus's known as actual crack addicts just more refined/dignified? whats going to happen when she or another succ can't hold back anymore and just pins down the next dude who walks in expecting a cool afternoon frick, then drains him dry?? she clearly loves the drying part a little bit too much
oh yeah let's not most monster girls need actual life force to survive instead of normal food.
but it's ok there's always a village degenerate willing to "marry" the iron maiden.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>most
*some
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>there's always a village degenerate willing to "marry" the iron maiden
That's true though. The most fricked up monster girls are doing a service keeping the degens occupied.
But the problem is the succubus won't get what she wants if she doesn't learn moderation. It's like hunting animals to extinction. In the end you kill both the prey and yourself.
like a solid 3rd of all species regularly eat human flesh
a legit chunk of those are straight up mindless predators who can't distinguish between eating~ and actually eating
and some do need human flesh to survive iirc.
The same concept as above applies.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
One thing that's important is that even the evil monster girls subdue their prey with sexual attacks. And even getting vored is apparently pleasurable. You get raped but theoretically you're fine in most cases as long as you don't get off. Just don't ejaculate.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>this comes to visit you in the night >loses her self control and attempts to kill you through sex >just don't ejaculate bro it's easy
jej
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Don't ejaculate if you want to live. Nothing wrong with trading life for good sex but don't complain about dying. Can't blame the monster girl for someone else lacking self-preservation instinct.
Paradox is a really good example of a reboot of an existing property that's made for existing fans but still works as an entry point. A lot Paradox is built on subverting/expanding on the VN, but it still works on its own. That said, I still highly recommend the VN, since it's great on its own and will give you a much better appreciation for Paradox.
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Luka is pretty badass in general, between that and him making fun of Alice throughout the VN I'm surprised how many people don't like his character.
I wasn't expecting this reaction after Lily exposed her backstory and then repeatedly hitting her at 0HP
>Luka couldn't even be allowed to hate the people of Iliasville for scorning his dying mother, because his mom begged him to forgive them >hates heroes with a passion, because the father he grew to despise used to be one, and they stand as the ultimate middle finger to his dream of humanity and monsters coexisting, yet he still became one because it was expected of him
I was honestly surprised by how deep Luka's character really was by the end of it. I thought he'd be just another twink hero/beta self-insert, but he really grew on me
Yeah, Lucifina fell ill shortly after Marcellus left to found Ilias Kreuz, and the people of Iliasville took it as an omen from Ilias, so they shunned her and Luka to avoid being punished as well.
It winds up backfiring, because Iliasville then suffered a massive plague of that same illness and the survivors realized that maybe refusing a dying woman her life-saving medicine may not have been the kindest thing they could have done.
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Anonymous
>Ilias sends a plague to force Lucifina go back to being an angel >Lucifina didn't budge and gets the plague >Old Iliasville residents tells Luka to frick off while he was asking for help >Lucifina dies, causing Ilias to get mad and make the plague even worse, killing the Old Iliasville residents
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Kinda regret that you can't let their asses die but Luka's too much of a softy.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Most of them died from the plague, with much of the village being migrants
Luka says he's one of the most senior members of the village
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Looks like its time for a replay of MGQ I guess, my memory has some holes that need patching.
Luka was shunned even after her death. She died because Ilias plagued her, knowing if Lucifina used her angelic powers she'd be able to cure herself, but Lucifina would rather die a human.
DUE TO SHUNNING LUCIFINA AND LUKA AFTER, Ilias then plagued the village for that. Which was the situation they finally had to accept Luka out of necessity to band together and survive the sickeness.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Wasn't that all or most of the original villagers died. And Luka ended up the eldest of the villagers because everyone there were new arrivals.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I remember him explaining they had to work together. I don't know if the original inhabitants died out or something like that.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I do definitely remember Luka mentioning he became an eldest village member after everything.
You all can not even fantom how much cum I spent on that femdom vampire bro. It's actually unhealthy. I think it started at least half of the shit that is wrong in me.
True.
the true "blind" experience. you're gonna be confused regarding who most of the "major" characters are.
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whenever he loses his shit, he awakens the genes that he got from his Lucy. otherwise he's...yeah.
>he awakens the genes that he got from his Lucy
Wasn't Lucy like a Hyper Hitter for monsters?
>Killed so many monsters that all of them developed a collective, instinctual fear towards her >Almost gives Tamamo a stroke upon realizing who she is >Really, really innately sadistic >All of the Arch-angels from Angel World save for her big sis are more scared of AW Lucifina than the monster ancestors
Its not that she hates monsters, she is just plainly a super murderhobo. Ilias noted that apparently, Luka seemed to have inherited more than just the angel bloodline from her (during Rami's sidequest where she tries to fly and Luka proceeds to egg her to jump off a cliff), just to a much, much lesser degree thanks to his upbringing.
when the frick is Paradox going to get finished? I'm going to need to start from the beginning because I hardly remember anything, I probably lost my save too
Nice, I guess I'll start over.
I did play a little a few years ago, not sure how far I got but I remember the harpy village and getting Sylph, maybe that was part 2. At this point I might as well wait for part 3.
I don't care for Ilias at all. Why does Paradox keep trying to push her? I just wanted more shenanigans with Alice and Luka.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because Illias in Paradox is literally MGQ's Illias being forced to get over her genocidal ways and learn tolerance due to her depowered state, a continuation of her story from MGQ parts 1-3. Paradox Alice however is a whole new character that's just Alice: again, which isn't as interesting in comparison.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why didn't they just put more effort into making the Alice route more interesting? It's not like having another adventure with her is inherently less interesting than Ilias.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't think it's about the amount of effort but rather that Alice as a character has already been explored by MGQ p1-3 which doesn't much for Paradox Alice to work with.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
wait what happened to paradox illias? she already dead?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
At the part I played to, nobody fricking knows
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Anonymous
At the part I played to, nobody fricking knows
isn't she the one that fricking dies in a weakened state in the final area at the end of part 2?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
wasn't that a figment of her?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
She gets shanked by the Succubus trio shitters after being in the verge of inexistence after having to slow down the movement of Chaos for decades.
>Before that, let's have a meal. What's for dinner today, Luka?
Haha wow Alice has such a fun and interesting personality in Paradox. No seriously why reduce her to being a moronic glutton and little else?
They have less defining moments together in Paradox overall. Their thing in the VN was that they were driven to give their life for their beliefs, spending their entire adventure getting to know each other while eventually trusting each other (i.e with each other's emotional baggage). In Paradox, they do not really have that, other than the whole "mom/dad is involved in some high level shit we don't know and we want to know why" fiasco. Ilias unironically had more development moments with Luka.
Personally though, I want more Promestein.
>Alice objectively has the worse route in terms of plot and characters in part 1 and 2
Part 3 is your last chance, Alicebros. At least you wouldn't have to fight (and maybe lose to) the SHIT ancestors.
reminder veganal is the best and optimal game over in any monster girl and succubus game
if she isn't sucking my life force while fricking veganal then it's trash
if you're into any other kind of degenerate bullshit you're trash
end of discussion
MGQ is the only eroge I can get behind. Rance, Dohna, Evenicle I didn't like because the protagonist was wanting sex and wanted to frick the girls. Meanwhile MGQ is the only game I know where I can be the shota and get forced upon, idk if I'm just too mentally submissive or brain damaged. I just want to be the one fricked bros
Three charms series is pretty good if you can get over the weird art, Monster Girl Dreams is very good for a WEG
both are BFRPGs like MGQ that have monster girls force themselves on you
thanks guess ill look into these, just feel like theres not enough rapey women content out there but granted i think im in the minority here wanting that out of eroge being more into submissive shit
There's a good amount of femdom content out there, but you have to look for it. Personally I can suggest these. >SEQUEL series >Forest of Blue Skin >Succubus Affection >Anything by excessm (Parade Buster, Smash Boy, YUME-SAME, etc.) >Three Charms series >Succubus Academia >ROBF >ReBF >Depravity of a Lewd Vampire >Princess Honey Trap >Dragon Princess is Hungry >Incubus Quest >Succubus Prison
And MGQ obviously.
>Depravity of a Lewd Vampire >femdom
You have to admit it's a very different sort of femdom from MGQ, at the very least.
I personally wouldn't count it.
It is a femdom game, just with a female MC. There are others like it too, like Asylum or Scarlet Demonslayer. Some people like that kind of thing.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Femdom with female MC exists, absolutely.
But Depravity is all about you hypnoing people into raping you. You're definitely in control in that you initiate the process and are safe throughout, and that it usually ends with the death of your partner, but the scenes themselves are pretty darn close to standard maledom (most of the time).
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The problem I have with scarlet demon slayer is that Agnis really doesn't give a shit about anything. It's not really femdom but rather strong woman that doesn't really care
Not saying it's bad, she's fricking top tier but it's not what I was looking for
I fricking hate Rance, he's just some corny horndog that everybody seems to idolize because lul he do a little rapey and sexism. His games fricking suck. If there was ever a more overrated series of H-games.
Three charms series is pretty good if you can get over the weird art, Monster Girl Dreams is very good for a WEG
both are BFRPGs like MGQ that have monster girls force themselves on you
>both are BFRPGs like MGQ that have monster girls force themselves on you
I tried monster girl dreams, everything was going well, slime was appropriately rapey, then halfway through the sex she stopped and asked consent to stick it up my character's ass. I immediately lost my boner, closed the game and uninstalled. What's the fricking point?
For whatever reason, monster girl game devs are obsessed with monster girls doing prostate stimulation via slime, fingers, tails or whatever. MGQ, Three Charms, Innocent Rules and Dragon Princess is Hungry all have that kind of thing along with having shota protags. It's funny to me. I guess all I'm saying is that it's not totally uncommon, so don't be surprised if you see it.
no friend, you don't understand, prostate stimulation is great
the problem is a western developer suddenly interrupting flow of "gamplay" to reaffirm the player or character's "consent" even to specific acts, despite the scene itself being obvious non-con monster rapes player character
if I answer "no" the monster stops
if I answer "yes" the monster continues
it's insulting and immediately breaks immersion, it was weeks ago and I'm still mad about it
Ah yeah, that is a problem then. I see your point, the slime should just bungle your butthole regardless of your choice
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the slime should just bungle your butthole regardless of your choice
If the dev isn't sure the player wants some fetishes or weird sex acts, they should present the player with options at the start of the game to turn those things off.
Example:
I don't like vore, so I turn it off at the start of MGQ, everything is good, play the game, don't see any vore, but voregays still get their thing everyone is happy
but instead: the vore character mid-way through raping Luka asks him if she can eat him and he said "no" and then she respects his choice and just continued with normal rape
would that be better? no second is immersion ruined
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The yes option should freak her out, have her call you a weirdo freak, and leave
The no option should have her laugh at you and do it anyways
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Doing it in universe like your pic gives the impression of a consentual roleplay like the meme disclaimers say on WEGs, as opposed to a real sexual attack with the settings only existing out of universe. Maybe that's what you want for your game, that's a dev decision.
Anyway Slimes are for Tsundere breast expansion content
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Maybe that's what you want for your game, that's a dev decision.
Yes, I understand why it was done. WEGs continue to disappoint.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Doing it in universe like your pic gives the impression of a consentual roleplay like the meme disclaimers say on WEGs, as opposed to a real sexual attack with the settings only existing out of universe. Maybe that's what you want for your game, that's a dev decision.
Anyway Slimes are for Tsundere breast expansion content
>Maybe that's what you want for your game, that's a dev decision.
Yes, I understand why it was done. WEGs continue to disappoint.
It's a problem pretty much all porn rpgs with loss scenarios have. It's hard to balance actual "consequences" and what a player is willing to put up with. Take a look at something like CoC for example. It's a game about rape, tf, and corruption where it's virtually impossible to get tfed or corrupted unintentionally.
3 weeks ago
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>Near impossible to get force tf'd, which I enjoy quite a bit >Easy as shit to have a bunch of eggs laid into your ass, which I very much don't enjoy
Why they do me like this?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>have to deliberately handicap myself by playing moronic to get any involuntary transformations
this is a problem in most tf games that aren't doing "slow tf from the start"
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>this is a problem in most tf games that aren't doing "slow tf from the start"
There really is no one true answer to the problem. One big slow tf absolutely kills replayabilty and waiting around for shit to actually happen is a good way to kill a boner. See: basically every "plot driven" mind control/slave vn ever.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>have to deliberately handicap myself by playing moronic to get any involuntary transformations
this is a problem in most tf games that aren't doing "slow tf from the start"
Flexible survival tries to strike an actual balance. Unless you play very carefully it's super easy to wind up mutated and most quests provide a slow tf that progresses as you do the quest. My only real complaint (which may have been addressed by now) is that the majority of mutations don't seem to provide you with much of a benefit to help counteract the insanity meter they add.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
FS is a good one, yes. Particularly nice that you can tune the game before starting for more difficulty or to favor certain things. It would be great if it wasn't so furry.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't mind the furry stuff (sheep girls are cute) I just wish they would stop letting the cabal of literal homosexual super doners on patreon have so much control over updates.
Finally someone who gets it. Hated that bullshit. I'm playing a game to be fricking dominated, not treated with kids gloves, it's such a huge turn off when everyone acts like I'm about to cancel them on twitter if they act a bit rapey. (Not to mention the game itself having nearly zero prostate stimulation stuff, despite being able to choose it as a fetish at the beginning.)
Another case of this shit in the game is the fox. Everyone hypes her content as having some amazing femdom scenes (and it was actually pretty original how she "tricks" you into becoming her slave through hypno sessions), but then you get the option to cry, and for all intents and purposes, with the flow of the story so far you'd expect her to tease you/bully you more, but instead she starts apologizing for being such a meanie, completely killing my erection in the process. Yeah amazing domme you got there guys.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
no friend, you don't understand, prostate stimulation is great
the problem is a western developer suddenly interrupting flow of "gamplay" to reaffirm the player or character's "consent" even to specific acts, despite the scene itself being obvious non-con monster rapes player character
if I answer "no" the monster stops
if I answer "yes" the monster continues
it's insulting and immediately breaks immersion, it was weeks ago and I'm still mad about it
Cultured gentlemen. This exact shit is why I hated three charms 2, where it's heavily implied that every time you're caught you get caught you're either let go or saved outright by your ninja monster girl servant. I'm here for bad ends when I lose, not this mickey mouse bullshit. Thank God the third game is a return to form in that regard.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Thank God the third game is a return to form in that regard.
So I guess you'd say...
...third time was the charm?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Had the same disappointment. Which sucks cause Kotone ticks nearly all my boxes. But the "she's actually nice" fakeout ruined it.
No, it's purely because of moral busybodies taking away the entire thing either by outright outlawing it or by removing any way to pay for it, such as mastercard and visa
I've came buckets to pic related, it's funny in a game with monsters and tentacles and all that shit, a hot chick with a defined belly is what stood out to me, her game over is my favourite as well with all the riding and zapping
Succ Witch is the best girl because of the kissing and cuddling scenes
The level-drain tail is ok too I guess.
I just wish there were some more vanillaish scenes with giant class monsters. Feels like most of them involve full body insertion or other weird shit. Just let me stick my penis in just one single giant girl's vegana instead of having every single one of them shove Luuka's entire body in their mouth or vegana
Try the Sequel games and the Three Charms series, you might like them. You can also try the ROBF series, although only the first game and the latest game are translated.
Yes, he only did that in two of his games though. Also he’s alright with gaijins now (two of his games are on Steam with both English and Chinese translations) but he still hates pirates.
Also he put a joke about Ganker pirates in ReBF, it’s hilarious.
Yes, he only did that in two of his games though. Also he’s alright with gaijins now (two of his games are on Steam with both English and Chinese translations) but he still hates pirates.
Also he put a joke about Ganker pirates in ReBF, it’s hilarious.
I'm interested in ROBFS both because of the Collab in Paradox and because I love Ragnarok Online.
How is it? Gameplay, plot and sceneswise
Plot is barebones
Gameplay is battlefrick where you have to make them cum before you
There's monster capture/NPC harem collector mechanics though where you can take the girls back to your house and frick them there properly without battlefrick constraints
>nearly three months without an update
THE /WEG/ CURSE CONTINUES. EVEN MONSTER GIRL VANILLA CANNOT ESCAPE.
I have been compulsively checking the itch page daily-ish for the past week and a half or so hoping it might show up. Someone in the comments said there will probably be proper Capital stuff up next. The gold Mimic says she has some tie to the casino there so I'm really hoping for a Mimic threesome.
Its honestly my personal favorite of the big 3 monster girl games series and you get a whole lotta content out of it especially you immerse yourself in how the battles work.
Story is really nothing special. The gameplay is fun though since there are a multitude of different builds to use, no two people are going to play the same way. There’s also a really good capturing and evolving system for every monster in the game, you get to have them as partners that help in fights. At least ReBF had that.
God her route in paradox was the worst, almost zero story relevance and her already lackluster personality was even further flanderized. At least Morrigan is cute I guess.
>Anon doesn't know about the other guy that always commissions art of futa Weiss x every other female character in fiction
No idea, some people are really dedicated to their waifus
Doing it in universe like your pic gives the impression of a consentual roleplay like the meme disclaimers say on WEGs, as opposed to a real sexual attack with the settings only existing out of universe. Maybe that's what you want for your game, that's a dev decision.
Anyway Slimes are for Tsundere breast expansion content
>Doing it in universe like your pic gives the impression of a consentual roleplay like the meme disclaimers say on WEGs, as opposed to a real sexual attack
Yeah, the entire game has sort of an overly friendly "dreamlike" tone, even the loss scenes rarely border on being rapey. That's the only scenario where you're outright asked if you want to do buttstuff or whatever in the middle of fricking though, iirc. >Anyway Slimes are for Tsundere breast expansion content
Man, I'm not even a BE enjoyer but growing Slime breasts activate the FRICK outta my almonds.
>That's the only scenario where you're outright asked if you want to do buttstuff or whatever in the middle of fricking though, iirc.
It's literally the first encounter and sets the impression for the entire game. It's reasonable to expect more interruptions going forward.
I got to ask, is there a way to exorcize or kill a succubus of her kind? They appear to be resistant to conventional means, so how does one effectively contain them? Assuming you can that is
The three are treated as equals with the Lilith Sisters/Seraphs and the MC of the time from SHRIFT compares Myusca to somewhat top tiers from his game, Nemea to her, and says Vinum is a monster who can't be beat by humans.
Nemea and Myusca are considered insanely top tier compared to the peotags from the other games and Vinum specifically is compared to the Old One from SHRIFT at one point, and I think she personally implies she's even stronger.
>her vid barely has her entire body in frame
was my game glitched or something? the bouncing breasts are nice but is there any actual way to get her game over with her entire body in view riding, like myusca??
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There's a canonical crossover event following the first one where Luka goes in to their world to try and save the MC of Succubus Prison somehow IIRC, and he has to sneak by the Succs since if they spot and catch him, he literally dies instantly. You aren't even given the option to fight them. Keep in mind that Paradox Luka by this point has fought and driven off two of the Apostles of Chaos, so the Succs are at the very least strong enough to fodderize a Luka of that level.
>Luka has to sneak by the Succs since if they spot and catch him, he literally dies instantly
sounds moronic, bet it was a condition of the crossover "you can include my characters but they must never lose"
Succubus Prison has to be the worst collab pandering I've seen. Frick power level homosexuals. It's pretty clear they are unkillable because the dev doesn't like seeing his femdom fantasy ruined. Shrift is similar with the moral virtue signalling muh murder is bad against monsters that are unrepentant and will continue killing. Hate that
They're not unkillable though, you literally fight them as bosses and defeat them multiple times
And later you even recruit them, too
Even Vinum herself basically tells Myusca to stop being so reckless because they're not in a world full of shitty weak humans anymore
you can complain that they're overrated in terms of power maybe, but they're not even the strongest collab characters
You have to run from them in some of the gameplay because it's a crossover with the original game which is a horror game where you do that
>They're not unkillable though, you literally fight them as bosses and defeat them multiple times
They always present it as them being in no real danger, Luka straight up jobs to them
Some of it could also be Shiki pandering as well. I find it suspicious that the CGs that involve his characters losing/dying are drawn by someone else.
(You) don't. More succs can unite and contain a world ending succ, but I don't even think Paradox cracked out Luka beat them fighting seriously.
There's a canonical crossover event following the first one where Luka goes in to their world to try and save the MC of Succubus Prison somehow IIRC, and he has to sneak by the Succs since if they spot and catch him, he literally dies instantly. You aren't even given the option to fight them. Keep in mind that Paradox Luka by this point has fought and driven off two of the Apostles of Chaos, so the Succs are at the very least strong enough to fodderize a Luka of that level.
Because he entered that world and thus had to play by its rules. When those same succs entered MGQ world they became like any other enemy and they get BTFO by Luka, or even a party of regular humans that are high enough level.
It's less BTFO'd and more like they never took shit seriously then got shocked by how much stronger the other casts were. Vinum in particular never takes the encountered in the crossover seriously and if she's at least as powerful as the Old One, then she should be beyond them outside of an Apostle showing up to gank her.
>99% of the monster designs are unsexy as frick >horrible artstyles that constantly clash aside from like 1 artist >like 40% of the scenes involve luka pissing or something >most of the scenes involve him being fricking eaten and dying >story is the generic “god is… le EVIL!” shit we’ve seen from the east 10000 times already >monsters treat people like dogshit, literally rape them to death, and insult them while they do it, but somehow you’re supposed to sympathize with them in any way
This game fricking sucks and the only reason people like it is because of nostalgia
Monster Girl Dreams. There's a sidequest involving a moron Wyrm girl causing trouble and you need to calm her down with the power of friendship (And also your wiener).
Monster Girl Dreams. There's a sidequest involving a moron Wyrm girl causing trouble and you need to calm her down with the power of friendship (And also your wiener).
Succubus Prison was a dogshit collab because the time loop event fricking sucked and locked you in, the only redeeming quality us Luka being spanked to death by the mermaid
I liked it when Luka entertained the idea of burning Rami and the imps so he can get their ashes out of sheer annoyance of being stuck in the time loop.
Do you mean Paradox Part 3? Feature creep. It's two routes, each longer than both Parts combined, plus a not-so-secret third route, but we have no details on how long that is.
And no, Rogue has been gone for a LONG time, never touched Paradox. The new team is solid though, they even go out of their way to add some QoL and UI improvements.
Probably? We know Ilias gets a Chaos God form so that's likely the result of the third route, but we don't have much hard info on it, just informed assumptions.
>Will you be able to have both Alice and Ilyas with you? Yes. In the initial part 3 demo version there was a certain event on the map with the flag "chaos route" and Luka, Alice, and Ilias all in the same party.
been playing few h-games lately, since recettear is my favorite game ever I like economy based games so now I'm playing black market monster or whatever
it's alright, bit easy even in the hardest difficulty but it has monster girls. I don't think there's any monster girl game that it's nearly as good as mgq though
Time seems to have frozen still since then, still the sames now as now as then. once the third part comes i will truely be aimless in what to look forward too
>Alright let's go to this brand new zone to see which weird monster girl will suck my penis this time and holy shit I would have never guessed it's another eldritch horror that will vore me, just like the other 4 monster girls before it
I just fricking can't
Simply don't lose against any monster girl with a big mouth or a gaping hole somewhere because those you just know it is a vore scene. Losing against fairies, cute vampire or fox girls is safe and vanilla.
Consider replaying the original, it doesn't take too long. I did so recently because I was in the same boat as you and the last act is pure nonstop kino (As long as you're not looking to rub one out LOL)
Paradox is a really good example of a reboot of an existing property that's made for existing fans but still works as an entry point. A lot Paradox is built on subverting/expanding on the VN, but it still works on its own. That said, I still highly recommend the VN, since it's great on its own and will give you a much better appreciation for Paradox.
He has a lot of badass moments for a bottom
Luka is pretty badass in general, between that and him making fun of Alice throughout the VN I'm surprised how many people don't like his character.
I'd imagine the major problem people have with his character is how repetitive his OH NO DON'T SUCK MY DICK MUH ILLIAS MUH COMMANDMENTS AAAAUUGH dialogue gets in H-scenes. He's probably really great in a deathless run.
That makes a lot of sense, I skipped most of the H-scenes on my first playthrough so I never saw most of that stuff
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I wasn't expecting this reaction after Lily exposed her backstory and then repeatedly hitting her at 0HP
This (and the rest of Sabasa) is when the game goes from good to fantastic. From here to the end of Part 2 is what I consider some of the finest character and story writing I've ever seen in a game. I think even Torotoro didn't really have a sense of where his story was going until around this point.
That makes a lot of sense, I skipped most of the H-scenes on my first playthrough so I never saw most of that stuff
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This (and the rest of Sabasa) is when the game goes from good to fantastic. From here to the end of Part 2 is what I consider some of the finest character and story writing I've ever seen in a game. I think even Torotoro didn't really have a sense of where his story was going until around this point.
I had zero problem in the VN because I played Hard Mode. I lost a lot, and a bunch of victories were close calls. So getting onesidedly raped like that was something I accepted since it took everything from me; Luka would be weakned and spent from the losses.
Ironically that made me agree with Lazarus. Luka was blessed with spirits and winning was still hard. Humanity could NOT deal with friends-turned-foes.
So I didn't understand those issues until Paradox. In Paradox, it's another story since all the screaming doesn't make sense for the Request scenes aside the reversal ones like Mei draining him.
>Ironically that made me agree with Lazarus
Agreeing with Lazarus is pretty standard fare I think. I won't say he did nothing wrong, but Lazarus is legitimately one of the most sympathetic antagonists in vidya. Undoubtedly in the top tier of that meme villain chart
>Ironically that made me agree with Lazarus
Agreeing with Lazarus is pretty standard fare I think. I won't say he did nothing wrong, but Lazarus is legitimately one of the most sympathetic antagonists in vidya. Undoubtedly in the top tier of that meme villain chart
Lazarus is well written in that his arguments seem to make sense but they do fall apart under scrutiny. His argument is that humans and monsters can't coexist because there's a power imbalance so humans are unsafe. But there's plenty of that in working civil societies. Civilization doesn't collapse just because anyone could shoot or stab or strangle each other at any moment. Some people hate cops because they're government sanctioned force, but we generally agree that while power is abused they're still necessary to maintain order. Monster being able to rip you in half at any moment isn't that absurd when you consider humans can do the same with weapons.
Also, if even we do accept Lazarus' arguments that monsters are a threat, provoking them like he is would be a horrible idea.
Lazarus is just projecting his trauma from seeing his buddies torn in half and assuming that because he wants hates other races and wants revenge, everyone does. The only good thing to come from Ilias Kreuz is that I'm guessing seeing Marcellus slaughter monsters (and being descended from a famous genocider) was very attractive to Lucifina.
While he's definitely a frick up I think his point is more about how building actual trust between humans and monsters is a pretty massive endeavor that could fall apart at a moment moments notice. The only real social contract that can be set up here is "be nice and you get food and companionship" whereas every monster has a built in incentive to attack people and the strength to do it. I mean just think of all the fromer human succubi who joined in with their attackers after they were transformed
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Anonymous
Lazarus overstated how hard it would be to build trust, and how fragile that trust would be. He didn't believe that it could be built up to a level where it was stable, but is proven wrong. Hell, the entire Noah region in the VN is proof enough.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Noah grande is a good example of integration
Dude...the colosseum.
I'll shamelessly quote a post from a previous thread in which an anon tried to explain how the human women of Noah Grande have accomodated themselves to monster integration: >They've kind of developed a cuckold/revenge mindset judging by Noah Grand's colosseum. It's probably a common occurrence for male significant others to get raped+mindbroken by monsters and human women don't really have any recourse. They literally can't compete, so they begin to feel inferior which probably leads them to resent men for liking it so much. That's why the colosseum is populated by women who pay to see men get defeated and raped by monsters
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why don't human women just become rapist since the men enjoy getting raped so much?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Human tail can't compete with monster grippy
The main problem with the colosseum is that it turned into a joke since people stopped going their to fight. Everyone knows what they're signing up for, its consensual (except for Luka who actually does want to fight). I think the women are just horny, keep in mind that humans outnumber monsters by a factor of 10 so it's only 1 in 10 women who're losing out, which isn't too far off from large cities in real life. Again, I think this is an issue of a small portion of society being blown out of proportion due to the game following Luka around.
>humans outnumber monsters by a factor of 10 so it's only 1 in 10 women who're losing out, >implying that monstergirls are monogamous
Lol. If posters like
>the entire female population of a city developing a cuck/revenge fetish because they got so unbelievably mogged by monstergirls >also gave one of the best Alma scenes in the game
I fail to see the problem
are anything to go by, that 1 monster girl is going to bowl through those 10 men in an afternoon >it turned into a joke since people stopped going their to fight. Everyone knows what they're signing up for, its consensual
Exactly the problem. The colosseum is just a microcosom of the larger problem: horny men (all men) will treat monster pussy as their chiefest pursuit. Nothing matters to them but getting their rocks off day after day. The whole society will be made of gigacoomers, which is unproductive. >I think this is an issue of a small portion of society being blown out of proportion due to the game following Luka around.
Admittedly yes, but it's all we have to go off of. I'd love to see more of this world because I think I'd be vindicated
>I'd put my investment into refining and improving Grangold's slavery magic
You're not enslaving the 4 heavenly knights. Or the monster lord. Or any of the queens. The slavery magic will only bring strife.
Promenstien got close...the anon above you has the right idea
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Human tail can't compete with monster grippy
Sounds like a skill issue on their part. >Promenstien got close...the anon above you has the right idea
She was a rank 9 angel working directly for Illias and still failed. Humans wouldn't get anywhere close to her tech without illias supporting and with the monster girls being able to interfere.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
There's some kinks to work out (Grangold shouldn't have been so slothful and should have planned better for a magic power outage and subsequent monster revolt), but technology and magic are humanity's best bet at obtaining parity with monsters' power levels. Pic related should prove my point about technology's power >Humans wouldn't get anywhere close to her tech without illias supporting
exactly, we need more support. Praise Ilias for giving us the power and means to stand up against these incredibly powerful beings (even if her intentions were selfish) >with the monster girls being able to interfere.
Don't know what you mean by this
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>There's some kinks to work out (Grangold shouldn't have been so slothful and should have planned better for a magic power outage and subsequent monster revolt)
So if literally anything goes wrong, Human are getting the slave magic turned on them. Great. >Don't know what you mean by this
Promenstien was able to develop her tech completely sanctioned by Illias. Humans would have to do it in secret with powerful monster girls who would oppose.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The most monsters can be civilized
They're civilized until they're not, and you don't want to be around when they're not. I think the best evidence of this is how all of the monsters treat Luka in the epilogue. They all have variations of kidnapping and raping him despite him being a close friend and saviour of the world. How civilized, right? >inb4 Tamamo put them up to it
Probably didn't take much convincing >Luka himself says the coexistence doesn't mean having to live in the same cities
Well perhaps, I'm really just arguing against integration >There's serial killers, rapists, murderers, etc. in every society. Shit happens, life goes on, doesn't make it impossible.
You're not getting it. Serial killer, rapist, murderer tendencies are baked into the genetics of almost every monster girl. We're not dealing with cases of miniscule outliers here--there's a 1:1 genetic correlation between being a violent rapist and being a monster girl. It's just what they are, no avoiding it. >The nations in MGQ have guards and militaries for a reason.
Strength disparities not in humanity's favor I think. >Grangold only survived because they reconciled and were able to fight off a later threat.
That external threat (an even more violent invasive race) is gone now...how do we structure society now? That's the question, and it might not be relevant in the immediate afterglow of said conflict, but it will become very prescient for subsequent generations of these integrated societies.
We ultimately disagree on the degree to which monsters are able to integrate without succumbing to their instincts. I'd argue the game suggests that it's possible, but there's a lot open to interpretation given how many violent monsters there are. I don't agree that the monsters are as violent as you say, but if I did then I'd agree with the rest of your argument. Ultimately, we don't have enough to draw from in the game, so it's ambiguous.
In the end it doesn't even matter if Luka's ideology is correct, coexistence isn't a theme of the game anyhow.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're a bit too reasonable for this website, anon. Thank you for the spirited debate.
>There's some kinks to work out (Grangold shouldn't have been so slothful and should have planned better for a magic power outage and subsequent monster revolt)
So if literally anything goes wrong, Human are getting the slave magic turned on them. Great. >Don't know what you mean by this
Promenstien was able to develop her tech completely sanctioned by Illias. Humans would have to do it in secret with powerful monster girls who would oppose.
>So if literally anything goes wrong
eerrm, it's called a backup generator. It's also a good reason why slavery is wrong because you're harboring a resentful and populous group who will seize you given the opportunity. A revolt is just an eventuallity unless you employ some drastic and counterproductive countermeasures (i.e. sterilization which terminates the supply of slaves or depriving them nutritionally which hinders their productive capabilities)
>Humans would have to do it in secret with powerful monster girls who would oppose.
Hmm...humanity will have to play it's cards right, but I think it's doable. Kinda tells you all that you need to know about the dynamic that monsters would oppose humans empowering themselves though.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>eerrm, it's called a backup generator
If backup generator fails or other problems with the magic outside of the power source. It's a dam, a few cracks is it takes for a flood. >humanity will have to play it's cards right, but I think it's doable. Kinda tells you all that you need to know about the dynamic that monsters would oppose humans empowering themselves though
If humans want to get stronger why don't they just go to the spirits and start mastering the 4 elements. They can do that without pissing off the monster population.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ever set foot inside Gold Volcano? It's hot, and there's a nonzero chance you'll get turned into a scratching post for a basilisk. I think it's an easier alternative to simply arm (and baptize) the general populous with magic and guns >They can do that without pissing off the monster population.
Monsters will attack and rape either way. It's who they are. Them getting pissed and organizing is really dangerous though, so it'd be best to avoid that, but there's really no getting past the fact that monsters just aren't fond of powerful humans. Look at the knights targeting the Ilias continent for producing all of those heroes.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Just master one or 2. You can handle a good chunk of monster girls with just one element. That's all Luka needed to defeat that chimera which tanked an attack from Alice.
The knight didn't target the humans for producing heroes. They,and by they really just one, targeted the heroes because they were being sent specifically to attack the monster lord. The heroes aren't even actually strong they're sperm is just made to taste bad.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>They,and by they really just one,
Alma's hurricanes go whoosh >Just master one or 2
I thought the same thing. Slyph might be useful alone just for running away (which Luka never does because) >they were being sent specifically to attack the monster lord. The heroes aren't even actually strong
Yeah, it was never really a contest and they wouldn't have made it to Hellgondo's shores anyways
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Alma wasn't actually attacking or subjugating towns. >Yeah, it was never really a contest and they wouldn't have made it to Hellgondo's shores anyways
That doesn't mean humans get to send soldiers over to attack the leader.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The main problem with the colosseum is that it turned into a joke since people stopped going their to fight. Everyone knows what they're signing up for, its consensual (except for Luka who actually does want to fight). I think the women are just horny, keep in mind that humans outnumber monsters by a factor of 10 so it's only 1 in 10 women who're losing out, which isn't too far off from large cities in real life. Again, I think this is an issue of a small portion of society being blown out of proportion due to the game following Luka around.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the entire female population of a city developing a cuck/revenge fetish because they got so unbelievably mogged by monstergirls >also gave one of the best Alma scenes in the game
I fail to see the problem
>Civilization doesn't collapse just because anyone could shoot or stab or strangle each other at any moment
lol. Try living in Chicago, LA, or New York and tell me how civilized you think those places are. Seriously though, I understand what you mean with cops, but you're comparing apples to oranges. Police officers are humans so we can apply human motivations to their actions, but you'd be making a mistake extending that to monstergirls. It is ingrained into their biology that they are violent rape machines. Some, I assume, are good people, but, under ideal circumstances, we'd really only be able to integrate a small fraction of relatively benign monsters into human society. Even then, I can really only imagine some marginal economic benefit for humans in that scenario, so why bother expending all the effort trying to incorporate an uncivilized race into civilization?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's said that the current human - monster relations is a powder keg that could ignite into war at any moment. Luka admits that there's a bunch of problems that aren't easily solved due to the differences between humans and monsters, but it's still better than the current hostile relations. Examples of dangerous cities don't disprove the existence of functional societies, either.
Also, I think the monster girl's sexual aggression is overstated since we're seeing the game through Luka's perspective. You mostly only get to see the monsters he has to fight due to them being violent. Also he's a genetically perfect specimen with his hero/angel bloodline, so he's essentially monster catnip.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Examples of dangerous cities don't disprove the existence of functional societies, either.
Who makes those cities dangerous? Disfunctional, uncivilized people. Functional societies are only that because of the quality of the people who comprise them. If you populate your cities with monstergirls, you're going to get uncivilized, deleterious behavior that erodes society, I guarantee you. >Also he's a genetically perfect specimen with his hero/angel bloodline, so he's essentially monster catnip.
Maybe there was a eugenic motivator subconsciously, but I recall monsters lusting after luka mainly because he was unbaptized and appeared weak/submissive. This should give you some insight into the desirable qualities that monsters will select and breed for when interacting with humans. Don't need a crystal ball to predict that human men, driven by lust, will aspire to weakness and submission (look at the boys in yamatai village) if it will get them mindbreaking monster sex. >You mostly only get to see the monsters he has to fight due to them being violent.
I think you're trying to imply that there are also lot's of benign monsters, but, really, let's not ignore all of the crazy, violent ones. What's more, besides Luka, who is able to keep the violent ones in check? Not looking good for your average Joe... >but it's still better than the current hostile relations
I'd put my investment into refining and improving Grangold's slavery magic. The integration of monsters into human society is simply untennable as they are now.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I'd put my investment into refining and improving Grangold's slavery magic
You're not enslaving the 4 heavenly knights. Or the monster lord. Or any of the queens. The slavery magic will only bring strife.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Who makes those cities dangerous? Disfunctional, uncivilized people.
The most monsters can be civilized. Nobody said this process was flawless and had to happen immediately, it's just about extending the olive branch. Luka himself says the coexistence doesn't mean having to live in the same cities. >I recall monsters lusting after luka mainly because he was unbaptized and appeared weak/submissive
I've said it again and again, but you're only seeing the monsters that are lusting after Luka for being a shota because Luka is who the story follows. You don't see the monsters who want a tall meathead because they don't approach Luka. >I think you're trying to imply that there are also lot's of benign monsters, but, really, let's not ignore all of the crazy, violent ones.
There's serial killers, rapists, murderers, etc. in every society. Shit happens, life goes on, doesn't make it impossible. The nations in MGQ have guards and militaries for a reason. >I'd put my investment into refining and improving Grangold's slavery magic
Grangold only survived because they reconciled and were able to fight off a later threat. If you don't help them reach a compromise in the game they're later shown to be completely destroyed.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The most monsters can be civilized
They're civilized until they're not, and you don't want to be around when they're not. I think the best evidence of this is how all of the monsters treat Luka in the epilogue. They all have variations of kidnapping and raping him despite him being a close friend and saviour of the world. How civilized, right? >inb4 Tamamo put them up to it
Probably didn't take much convincing >Luka himself says the coexistence doesn't mean having to live in the same cities
Well perhaps, I'm really just arguing against integration >There's serial killers, rapists, murderers, etc. in every society. Shit happens, life goes on, doesn't make it impossible.
You're not getting it. Serial killer, rapist, murderer tendencies are baked into the genetics of almost every monster girl. We're not dealing with cases of miniscule outliers here--there's a 1:1 genetic correlation between being a violent rapist and being a monster girl. It's just what they are, no avoiding it. >The nations in MGQ have guards and militaries for a reason.
Strength disparities not in humanity's favor I think. >Grangold only survived because they reconciled and were able to fight off a later threat.
That external threat (an even more violent invasive race) is gone now...how do we structure society now? That's the question, and it might not be relevant in the immediate afterglow of said conflict, but it will become very prescient for subsequent generations of these integrated societies.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>They're civilized until they're not, and you don't want to be around when they're not
Says who. If you get raped by a monster girl it's your fault for getting seduced. Every person who gets raped by a monster girl was clearly asking for it.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>They all have variations of kidnapping and raping him despite him being a close friend and saviour of the world
Listen, Luka just gives off an aura that causes his friends to want to rape him
Simple as
>Luka is pretty badass in general, between that and him making fun of Alice throughout the VN I'm surprised how many people don't like his character.
Luka is a total weakling to start with. And that's pretty unpopular. Even if the character grows and gets really strong, a lot of being just aren't willing to stick with them when they're a jobber.
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One thing I really loved in the VN was its application of the elements and learning about them. Gave me some Avatar nostalgia.
Usually the guy gets, learn about the elements and at the end starts shooting them or something. Here Luka gets the opposite: the pact with the Spirits gives him an application of the elements straight away, but they are simple or clumsy.
Instead of learning how to hone them from there, he instead had to learn the basic principles and then the emotional does the rest. Sylph only gives him a wind shield at first, but learning about freeing himself together with the wind finally allows him to ride it, dodge and guide it to his blows. Earth is just some hardening but channeling willpower could make him tank multiple blows and summon super strength.
This whole emotional side also hurt his use of multiple elements as some of them were diametrically apart (Water requires the calm mind to sway along the current - that alone already makes the willpower of the Earth hard and borderline nulls the burning spirit to use Fire) and it is exactly because of those principles that he could still use a fraction of them even after being deprived of the spirits.
I've came buckets to pic related, it's funny in a game with monsters and tentacles and all that shit, a hot chick with a defined belly is what stood out to me, her game over is my favourite as well with all the riding and zapping
How is the vore in this series? Is it some pussy shit where the prey gets to go free or it feels good to die or something? I want monster girls to slowly flay human beings alive in their stomachs over the course of hours, it should be deliberate torture and they should get off on the pain they're inflicting.
There's a lampa you can talk to and she won't rape you or anything. She gives tutorials on how saves work. I think you do fight her once but after she's docile. They're sapient you. Well you can't compromise but you can get them to agree not to rape you.
>just casually master one of 4 great spirits that will fricking kill you if you don't impress them bro
This works for Luka because he's one of the strongest beings in the world, descended from a bloodline of heros, godkings, and literal angels. The average schmuck won't even be able to make it TO sylph, let alone learn how to control her element. It's why the system worked as it did, monsters are so strong that the human race literally had to wait for the hero's bloodline or someone of that caliber to save the world from the monsters sperging out once every few generations, the power gap is just that large. Full coexistence could never happen in a setting like this, realistically. At best there could be a fragile peace, something akin to the Cold War enforced by super specimens like Luka, Alice, and her 4 henchmen. That is unless humans advanced enough technologically, like some other anon said
>game about sexy monster girls >it's fricking shotashit
I have such visceral hatred for shotaBlack folk holy shit. I wish I could just skin you homosexuals alive and throw you into the ocean.
>Ugh, that is actually gross and disgusting... >... >BUT! >Lose and actually feel the most tremendous sensation of a disgust boner, can't believe what I'm getting off at >She teases the fact you're making babies with a disgusting slimy slug >Biggest load of my life >Felt shameful and quit the game >Now wish I never gotten used to monstergirls since now I don't feel that alien arousal mixed with disgust anymore
Don't think I ever saw "dudes with boobs" futa in a game? Unless you mean traps.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I just mean futas with no veganas
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I fricking love futas and I could not for the life of me understand what's the big deal if pussy or not pussy, they are all the same to me.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I just like the idea of a small dude having sex and impregnating a big futa
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>pregnant futas
Hot, but I've only seen one video with that kind of content. Mind sharing some recommendations?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
most of the stuff I know is probably too furry for this thread
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I just mean futas with no veganas
Sounds a bit disingenuous to call them that, since the image that came to mind was literally just a dude with breasts, and I assumed you meant futa for people into bara or something.
They do have veganas but there's only one character that ever uses it. Someone who needs to ask that probably wouldn't enjoy a futa on male game though, so I'd steer clear if I were you.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I believe he is asking "do they have veganas as well or only wieners?" in a snarky way
No idea they don't show enough to tell. Except one girl who does have both a futa and a standard female scene because the futa stuff is magic.
What matters to me is that they're cute and feminine unlike the ugly manfaced futas you see in WEGs.
my save broke right before some bridge with a boss fight and i basically never scored ( the shop chick being the exception) i need to give this a shot again
You can just get tons of currency from the gacha by doing the prostitution stuff hidden in Ymir’s dialogues. You practically have to do that to get the true ending anyway since it not only makes you powerful enough for the final boss, but passes the time so Gawain’s buddy gets corrupted enough for the true ending’s conditions to be met.
I love the slug girl I also love the futa slug girl in paradox
I loved the slug in the original and I think she made one of the best first impressions for me in the VN.
Thank God there was no futa back then cause I’m not into that
Alice knows deep down that Tamamo could cuck her if she wanted. She's laid back enough to gain trust, cute enough to be disarming and foxes are objectively desirable to men.
It's been a while but I think it's literally just that. The Alchemist job has one auto-search passive built into it, and then I think it also unlocks it as an ability, and they stack, so having an Alchemist with the ability on should give you 2 searches per turn.
Yeah, but it's based purely on plot fiat. Realistically monster girls would obliterate humans with zero effort. Even Luka can't handle heavenly knights after the plot of the game and there are at least two known cases of single monster girl destroying the entire world. Once phenomena of ruination are shown that list is going to be a lot longer.
>Even Luka can't handle heavenly knights after the plot of the game
I assumed it was because he was exhausted and didn't wanna fight anymore.
By the end of the game Luka could surely take on the knights when going all out.
>Even Luka can't handle heavenly knights after the plot of the game
I assumed it was because he was exhausted and didn't wanna fight anymore.
By the end of the game Luka could surely take on the knights when going all out.
Alma Elma and Granberia state it's because Luka can't fight properly if it's just a normal match. It needs to be a serious battle otherwise he won't have even half his full power.
TRTR also stated that some of the monsters Luka fought were the apex of their races, not the rule. Which was why in the war the humancentric countries had soldiers able to beat endgame monsters and artificial chimeras. Luka fought the exceptional, but they could deal with the rule with reasonable struggle.
Luka encountering only the very strongest monster girls while the rest of them can be handled by humans who do not have even 1% of his power is incredibly contrived bullshit.
Adding on to that: the QA explained some inconsistencies. Luka fought a Dark Elf, early on, which is a variant explicitly stronger than normal elves, while the normal Elf was fought by Sylph's forest and a harder fight. The Dark Elf he fought was average by their standards, while the Elf was the top that guarded the forest.
The opposite applied to the chimeras where the ones Luka fight were top of line, while the armies were composed of mass-produced cheaper ones.
Luka encountering only the very strongest monster girls while the rest of them can be handled by humans who do not have even 1% of his power is incredibly contrived bullshit.
It wasn't only, as Dark Elf was the average of her species. But let's put the view on the perspective of a war itself: it won't be a 1v1 battle, it won't be fair either. Luka and Alice actually learn early on how the enemy armies easily got disorganized and had to disengage when the commanders were taken down. While Lazarus does point out that's something normal in an actual war, on multiple occasions we see the monster girls and the angels didn't have a proper chain of command or analysis of the battlefield as a whole.
Humanity was quick to fight back or recompose in losing situations, while the angels were struggling to estabilish what they were supposed to do or lead when a commander was taken down and monsters became chaotic.
Only two races made proper use of tactics and could keep a good composure amidst all that: the Harpies which were benefited by a genius Queen and the Vampires that followed feudalism and a code of honor. The Mermaids HAD a proper hierarchy but they didn't make much of it unlike the aforementioned two races.
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Alma Elma and Granberia state it's because Luka can't fight properly if it's just a normal match. It needs to be a serious battle otherwise he won't have even half his full power.
TRTR also stated that some of the monsters Luka fought were the apex of their races, not the rule. Which was why in the war the humancentric countries had soldiers able to beat endgame monsters and artificial chimeras. Luka fought the exceptional, but they could deal with the rule with reasonable struggle.
This doesn't make any sense considering marcellus and his team of peak humans struggled all the way to Hellgondo, and only barely beat Alice's mother when she was even trying to lose. And on top of that the OG trilogy implied that Marcy was carrying the other three, meaning those of the hero's bloodline are really the only ones that can consistently beat the monsters beyond the first two continents solo. It really makes no sense that humans could beat a species with superpowers with intelligence rivaling their own, especially if they're all working together (mostly).
Human can use machinery and technology
Skill issue. Heinrich was just a normal guy and he was Eden level which would be enough to beat any monster in the VN.
Marcy is Luka's dad and another descendant of Heinrich.
Marcellus is a weak shit that jobbed to 6 year old Alice.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Exactly. And with that being said: >Marcellus>>>>
[...]
+ the other 2
These 4 were the strongest in the world at the time. There's no way TRTR is convincing me humanity would win in an all out monster conflict without a major tech someone on Luka's level carrying them to victory, there's just no way.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
it's already written in trtr blog, human may be weak but they are proficient in team fight and outnumbering the enemy even in original timeline.
I tried playing this ages ago but it felt really outdated. How do i get into this? Isn't it like a Rance situation where's there's like 10 different games?
I mean it was a VN from like 2012. And with every single monster having a scene they had to use multiple artists which caused a loss of consistency.
Paradox is a more recent game but it uses the RPG-maker engine of a few years ago.
As for your answer: technically only 2 games. But they were each divided in 3 parts. The original Visual Novel and the MGQ Paradox RPG.
But Paradox only has 2 parts released. We are still waiting part 3.
Paradox is GIGANTIC. They made a point to explore the entire world of the VN
>multiple artists
I didn't about this before since i didn't went far on the original. Does paradox has this as well? I gotta be honest i hate when the CGs are done by multiple people.
Damn..... still forcing myself to play it later but that's not a good sign >There is no way a single artist would be able to draw them all.
They just didn't find someone autistic enough.
If you don't like the system of fight -> story -> fight -> story -> town -> fight, etc. you probably won't like it. Though most people seem to think the game picks up at Part 2.
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Actually based. I skipped all the porn scenes in this game btw.
>I skipped all the porn scenes in this game btw.
why? were they not any good?
I mean you only really get them by losing.
Nah there are scenes that happen regardless.
As soon as I heard that music I just hit the skip button
>sex scenes when you lose
I hate that. The point of games is to win, the point of porn is to see it. Doesn't make any damn sense.
there was a game anons were posting in succubus threads where if you win you get fricked to actual death by the succ while giving her orgasm so hard she's "exorcised", thats the goal of the game apparently
I think I know which game you mean. It starts by revealing that most females were actually succubi and follows multiple protagonists traveling a warped school/reality, resisting succ temptations only to fight and loose to the main ones (which were their love interests before all of that)
The game is good but if i'm not mistaken it gets even worse than that because you need to lose in specific ways sometimes.
>be horny
>play h game
>never progress because I want to lose and get dommed
I wish I could actually progress
In MGQ:P a lot of girls have multiple sex scenes. To get most aside from the obvious losing ones you need to recruit them and then build up your relationship with them (either by using them in combat or by giving them gifts while they're on standby in the pocket castle).
The porn in the MGQ series is basically the low point. The writing is legitimately the best part of the series, especially for MGQ:P. I genuinely couldn't give two fricks about any of the characters' sex scenes. I enjoyed their personalities, dialogue, and interactions way more.
Pic related. I got some good chuckles out of this dumb c**t's side quest
I actually really like a lot of the porn in MGQ. In fact I'm pretty sure I was playing MGQ when I jerked off 7 times in one day, which is still the most I've ever came. MGQP isn't as good because of some of the recycled scenes, but the new stuff that's there is pretty good imo.
I just wish there were some more vanillaish scenes with giant class monsters. Feels like most of them involve full body insertion or other weird shit. Just let me stick my penis in just one single giant girl's vegana instead of having every single one of them shove Luuka's entire body in their mouth or vegana
I really like a lot of monster girls and their sex scenes you are fricking moronic normalhomosexual if you think the porn is the low point. You can't write off the porn without the story and plot taking a huge hit.
i remember this b***h from that kfc game.
god, peak 'sex design in shit game' for real...
is there a porn spinoff with her?
For me, it's Lamiaroid
Her little bug and gnosis forever corrupted my dick
Fricking based. Chimera Bug also took loads from me. I miss Xelvy so fricking much bros
kino
For me, it's Chimera Bug
This damn crustacean fricking unlocked something within me
I preferred Chimera Bug.
i dont get it if she was/is so hungry why doesnt she simply consume luka for sustenance?
Eat once or eat many times.
That's what I don't understand about the monster girls that kill Luka in game overs, if you had a plate of food that'd regenerate as long as you left a little bit, why wouldn't you?
they're mostly stupidos
In the library they say a lot of the monster girls actually eat meat so the semen is just a side dish
You're describing farming; that shit is a lot of work.
eat a human once, you're fed for a day
teach a human to cook you food in exchange for swordsmanship training, you eat for a lifetime
Alice and Luka are unironically cute together though and I wish there was more cutesy shit with them instead of coomer shit. Not having a MGQ part 4 where they raise children and work towards actually guiding the world towards their ideal was a mistake
are those supposed to Nero and Neris?
I think that image is older than Paradox
She does that immediately if you frick up at the start of the game Lrr
DUDE
COEXISTENCE
My hero
I'd coexist with the cute monsters
The others get the sword
Tamamo...
[x] Touch fluffy tail
Tamamo really is popular, I see more art of her than every other secondary character.
A hero to aspire to
>We should coexist with these horrible monsters that kill and vore people!
A few bad apples do not make everyone bad. Else humanity itself would be long gone. Punish the evildoers, but do not harm the innocent.
>People tell him repeatedly that he's a fricking idiot whose ideals aren't as simple as he thinks they are to achieve
>He agrees with them and spends the whole game and beyond rethinking his ideals, coming to terms with the fricked up reasons he has them in the first place, finding ways to reach them, and fostering peace
Truly one of the protagonists of all time
>that he's a fricking idiot whose ideals aren't as simple as he thinks they are to achieve
?? but even his most moronic ideas achieve massive success
>dude just rape men in moderation
>maybe even marry some
>entire town's society reforms within the week
>dude just rape men in moderation
Often times the simplest advice is the most difficult. If Americans ate in moderation there would be no obesity or heart disease. If they drank in moderation there would be no liver disease. I really don't see the problem.
like a solid 3rd of all species regularly eat human flesh
a legit chunk of those are straight up mindless predators who can't distinguish between eating~ and actually eating
and some do need human flesh to survive iirc.
>If Americans ate in moderation there would be no obesity or heart disease
To be fair to Muricans, most of the food they consume is riddle with added sweeteners and what not to make it more addictive.
You don't think succubi are addicted to semen? It's still the same thing. Anon was claiming that Luka's advice was very easy and obvious and I was pointing out that it's more difficult than it seems at first.
I thought the Succubus Village plan was fine
>Just make it a sex tourism destination
is simple yet effective
And though it's used for comedy, also thought it was nice that potato mayor thought to start a backup food supply in case volunteers and tourists dry up
>find pic related in a bar full of dead fricking homies because she loved sucking so much
>she was full, never forced or close to starving, but never thought to stop sucking
>the plan is to tell her "yeah chill out miss"
aren't succubus's known as actual crack addicts just more refined/dignified? whats going to happen when she or another succ can't hold back anymore and just pins down the next dude who walks in expecting a cool afternoon frick, then drains him dry?? she clearly loves the drying part a little bit too much
oh yeah let's not most monster girls need actual life force to survive instead of normal food.
but it's ok there's always a village degenerate willing to "marry" the iron maiden.
>most
*some
>there's always a village degenerate willing to "marry" the iron maiden
That's true though. The most fricked up monster girls are doing a service keeping the degens occupied.
you mean culled
Wasn't that when the village had literally just turned into succs and we're going crazy?
But the problem is the succubus won't get what she wants if she doesn't learn moderation. It's like hunting animals to extinction. In the end you kill both the prey and yourself.
The same concept as above applies.
One thing that's important is that even the evil monster girls subdue their prey with sexual attacks. And even getting vored is apparently pleasurable. You get raped but theoretically you're fine in most cases as long as you don't get off. Just don't ejaculate.
>this comes to visit you in the night
>loses her self control and attempts to kill you through sex
>just don't ejaculate bro it's easy
jej
Don't ejaculate if you want to live. Nothing wrong with trading life for good sex but don't complain about dying. Can't blame the monster girl for someone else lacking self-preservation instinct.
monster obeys the one with more powerful fist, so just be stronger than them.
Vore is the ultimate form of coexistence THOUGH.
He has a lot of badass moments for a bottom
I wasn't expecting this reaction after Lily exposed her backstory and then repeatedly hitting her at 0HP
>Luka couldn't even be allowed to hate the people of Iliasville for scorning his dying mother, because his mom begged him to forgive them
>hates heroes with a passion, because the father he grew to despise used to be one, and they stand as the ultimate middle finger to his dream of humanity and monsters coexisting, yet he still became one because it was expected of him
I was honestly surprised by how deep Luka's character really was by the end of it. I thought he'd be just another twink hero/beta self-insert, but he really grew on me
Well, duh, I didn't say 'worst girl'
>the people of Iliasville for scorning his dying mother
Wait, they scorned her? I don't remember that part.
Yeah, Lucifina fell ill shortly after Marcellus left to found Ilias Kreuz, and the people of Iliasville took it as an omen from Ilias, so they shunned her and Luka to avoid being punished as well.
It winds up backfiring, because Iliasville then suffered a massive plague of that same illness and the survivors realized that maybe refusing a dying woman her life-saving medicine may not have been the kindest thing they could have done.
>Ilias sends a plague to force Lucifina go back to being an angel
>Lucifina didn't budge and gets the plague
>Old Iliasville residents tells Luka to frick off while he was asking for help
>Lucifina dies, causing Ilias to get mad and make the plague even worse, killing the Old Iliasville residents
Kinda regret that you can't let their asses die but Luka's too much of a softy.
Most of them died from the plague, with much of the village being migrants
Luka says he's one of the most senior members of the village
Looks like its time for a replay of MGQ I guess, my memory has some holes that need patching.
Luka was shunned even after her death. She died because Ilias plagued her, knowing if Lucifina used her angelic powers she'd be able to cure herself, but Lucifina would rather die a human.
DUE TO SHUNNING LUCIFINA AND LUKA AFTER, Ilias then plagued the village for that. Which was the situation they finally had to accept Luka out of necessity to band together and survive the sickeness.
Wasn't that all or most of the original villagers died. And Luka ended up the eldest of the villagers because everyone there were new arrivals.
I remember him explaining they had to work together. I don't know if the original inhabitants died out or something like that.
I do definitely remember Luka mentioning he became an eldest village member after everything.
NOBODY with a GOOD CAR needs to be JUSTIFIED
You all can not even fantom how much cum I spent on that femdom vampire bro. It's actually unhealthy. I think it started at least half of the shit that is wrong in me.
True.
>he awakens the genes that he got from his Lucy
Wasn't Lucy like a Hyper Hitter for monsters?
>Killed so many monsters that all of them developed a collective, instinctual fear towards her
>Almost gives Tamamo a stroke upon realizing who she is
>Really, really innately sadistic
>All of the Arch-angels from Angel World save for her big sis are more scared of AW Lucifina than the monster ancestors
Its not that she hates monsters, she is just plainly a super murderhobo. Ilias noted that apparently, Luka seemed to have inherited more than just the angel bloodline from her (during Rami's sidequest where she tries to fly and Luka proceeds to egg her to jump off a cliff), just to a much, much lesser degree thanks to his upbringing.
when the frick is Paradox going to get finished? I'm going to need to start from the beginning because I hardly remember anything, I probably lost my save too
Apparently the scope of the game is greater than that of Part 1 and 2 combined
also Xelvy being dead probably caused some hiccups
I have some food for you madam haha
*unzips dick*
Die as she actually proceeds to suck my soul out through my dick
>spoiler
>Alice will never mercilessly drain you dry with her tail pussy.
Fellas...
Treasure Inside.
I had this on loop for a while
I really liked mgq1-3 but paradox is just another thing altogether right? no romance between luka and alice, just cgs?
There's still a romance, it's just clear that the devs put more time into Ilias's route for whatever reason
Nice, I guess I'll start over.
I did play a little a few years ago, not sure how far I got but I remember the harpy village and getting Sylph, maybe that was part 2. At this point I might as well wait for part 3.
You'll make the right choice of course, won't you Anon?
I don't care for Ilias at all. Why does Paradox keep trying to push her? I just wanted more shenanigans with Alice and Luka.
Because Illias in Paradox is literally MGQ's Illias being forced to get over her genocidal ways and learn tolerance due to her depowered state, a continuation of her story from MGQ parts 1-3. Paradox Alice however is a whole new character that's just Alice: again, which isn't as interesting in comparison.
Why didn't they just put more effort into making the Alice route more interesting? It's not like having another adventure with her is inherently less interesting than Ilias.
I don't think it's about the amount of effort but rather that Alice as a character has already been explored by MGQ p1-3 which doesn't much for Paradox Alice to work with.
wait what happened to paradox illias? she already dead?
At the part I played to, nobody fricking knows
isn't she the one that fricking dies in a weakened state in the final area at the end of part 2?
wasn't that a figment of her?
She gets shanked by the Succubus trio shitters after being in the verge of inexistence after having to slow down the movement of Chaos for decades.
tf did i just read
Back then I picked Alice, this time I will pick Alice again
I don't dislike Ilias or anything, it's just that I really like Alice
Respectable.
Where do you even get the translated version nowadays? The general links have been dead for ages.
oh shit I had a link bookmarked to some azor guy's blog with a patch, but it seems like it's gone
your best bet is to check /mggg/ on /vg/
Yeah that's the problem, unless something changed recently then their links are dead too.
>Before that, let's have a meal. What's for dinner today, Luka?
Haha wow Alice has such a fun and interesting personality in Paradox. No seriously why reduce her to being a moronic glutton and little else?
They have less defining moments together in Paradox overall. Their thing in the VN was that they were driven to give their life for their beliefs, spending their entire adventure getting to know each other while eventually trusting each other (i.e with each other's emotional baggage). In Paradox, they do not really have that, other than the whole "mom/dad is involved in some high level shit we don't know and we want to know why" fiasco. Ilias unironically had more development moments with Luka.
Personally though, I want more Promestein.
>Get your reward, Luka.
Sexiest childhood friend in any ero game passing through.
You are not wrong, absolutely crazy hot. Dat tummy
Her scenes however are… gross
I liked them, hope part 3 has some actual vegana sex.
gonna be honest with you anons, I only consume the most disgustingly wholesome stuff
An MGQ thread has appeared, so now it's time to choose.
Alice because her route has Astaroth
I pick the racist grandma because her route has Eden.
give me the sexy racist angel
Wasn't there another version of this image that added the line "pisses on you" under Illias?
What if i like both.
it's a route split. you only get to choose one.
>Implying there won't be a convergence route after both routes end up being bad ends in P3
As much as I love everything about Alice in the original, her route is nothing in Paradox and I must go with the grandma
Ilias is better at all the things listed there except being kind, charitable and fair (weak qualities), all with a bonus of racism (strong quality.)
She does a 180 and becomes fair later in the game and losses her racism trait.
I mean, she's still kinda racist. She just no longer has the will to kill every monster.
Anons claims this while Ilias pets her dog girl best friend and talks to her slime girl best friend number 2.
Yep, sexy racist angel it is.
I'm a big fan of straddling so its the goddess for, its why I will never understand people who like lamias, being between a chicks legs its top tier
you can ask Alice to turn her legs into human ones.
Alice can do that too, as well as wrap you up and snugglefrick you for 3 days straight
Luka must have the strongest pelvis in the world by now
By the time they both get to the mainland luka isn't struggling anymore and alice is being gentle
Alice is not being gentle in the ending. Isn't it like a week of non-stop mating?
Three days
Luka's a lucky manboy
>being between a chicks legs its top tier
exactly why I like lamia
>Alice objectively has the worse route in terms of plot and characters in part 1 and 2
Part 3 is your last chance, Alicebros. At least you wouldn't have to fight (and maybe lose to) the SHIT ancestors.
If Alice had her actual supporting cast she'd easily win. The knights are too popular they can defeat incest.
Peeing Goddess has a way better role in the story.
Ilias because her route has hotter girls
My super fast slug wife...
>mod in a character from a porn game, wind up having a great time
Many such cases
hahaha holy shit, now THAT'S a deep pull
figures stp autism goes hand in hand with battlefrick tactics
I didnt felt sad when i murdered Alice and instead got excited when i got violated by Ilias.
Ilias mogs this b***h so hard it's not even funny
Lucifina, my beloved
I can tame her
>Learns Luka is kinda her son
>Immediately wants to frick him while acting like his mom
What the FRICK is her problem?
She was always screwed up in the head
Marcellus was the one who put some sense into her
Runs in the family
She's from the timeline where she didn't get corrected
The Hein family dick works miracles
Who'll correct her then?
Big bro, duh
She doesn't need correction she's a good girl who just happens to really want to frick her father
Where the frick is part 3 I need Neris cowgirl
Isn't part 3 already out except without translation?
It's just a demo. Part 2 should had ended there even if storywise it has less characterization.
Why is she so fricking flat when her mother had amazing breasts?
Because she has a big heart
Neris got all the shota genes
She's optimized, flatties get better stats and are more desirable to powerful men.
She is literally a deranged sadomasochist who terrified the rest of Heaven. She's actually really a ther tame with Luka all said.
>She is literally a deranged sadomasochist who terrified the rest of Heaven.
wait what? where? Wasn't she just really fricking happy to serve?
reminder veganal is the best and optimal game over in any monster girl and succubus game
if she isn't sucking my life force while fricking veganal then it's trash
if you're into any other kind of degenerate bullshit you're trash
end of discussion
>sucking your lifeforce
pretty cringe tbh
she should be forcing you to impregnate her then staying together with you to raise your children together
MGQ is the only eroge I can get behind. Rance, Dohna, Evenicle I didn't like because the protagonist was wanting sex and wanted to frick the girls. Meanwhile MGQ is the only game I know where I can be the shota and get forced upon, idk if I'm just too mentally submissive or brain damaged. I just want to be the one fricked bros
There's Degrees of Lewdity but you may be looking for something different
thanks guess ill look into these, just feel like theres not enough rapey women content out there but granted i think im in the minority here wanting that out of eroge being more into submissive shit
There's a good amount of femdom content out there, but you have to look for it. Personally I can suggest these.
>SEQUEL series
>Forest of Blue Skin
>Succubus Affection
>Anything by excessm (Parade Buster, Smash Boy, YUME-SAME, etc.)
>Three Charms series
>Succubus Academia
>ROBF
>ReBF
>Depravity of a Lewd Vampire
>Princess Honey Trap
>Dragon Princess is Hungry
>Incubus Quest
>Succubus Prison
And MGQ obviously.
HE.CAN'T.BREATHE!!!
>Depravity of a Lewd Vampire
>femdom
You have to admit it's a very different sort of femdom from MGQ, at the very least.
I personally wouldn't count it.
It is a femdom game, just with a female MC. There are others like it too, like Asylum or Scarlet Demonslayer. Some people like that kind of thing.
Femdom with female MC exists, absolutely.
But Depravity is all about you hypnoing people into raping you. You're definitely in control in that you initiate the process and are safe throughout, and that it usually ends with the death of your partner, but the scenes themselves are pretty darn close to standard maledom (most of the time).
The problem I have with scarlet demon slayer is that Agnis really doesn't give a shit about anything. It's not really femdom but rather strong woman that doesn't really care
Not saying it's bad, she's fricking top tier but it's not what I was looking for
I fricking hate Rance, he's just some corny horndog that everybody seems to idolize because lul he do a little rapey and sexism. His games fricking suck. If there was ever a more overrated series of H-games.
Rance is a meme, like blindly hating pineapple pizza even if you never tried it.
Best girl coming through
Three charms series is pretty good if you can get over the weird art, Monster Girl Dreams is very good for a WEG
both are BFRPGs like MGQ that have monster girls force themselves on you
>both are BFRPGs like MGQ that have monster girls force themselves on you
I tried monster girl dreams, everything was going well, slime was appropriately rapey, then halfway through the sex she stopped and asked consent to stick it up my character's ass. I immediately lost my boner, closed the game and uninstalled. What's the fricking point?
For whatever reason, monster girl game devs are obsessed with monster girls doing prostate stimulation via slime, fingers, tails or whatever. MGQ, Three Charms, Innocent Rules and Dragon Princess is Hungry all have that kind of thing along with having shota protags. It's funny to me. I guess all I'm saying is that it's not totally uncommon, so don't be surprised if you see it.
no friend, you don't understand, prostate stimulation is great
the problem is a western developer suddenly interrupting flow of "gamplay" to reaffirm the player or character's "consent" even to specific acts, despite the scene itself being obvious non-con monster rapes player character
if I answer "no" the monster stops
if I answer "yes" the monster continues
it's insulting and immediately breaks immersion, it was weeks ago and I'm still mad about it
Ah yeah, that is a problem then. I see your point, the slime should just bungle your butthole regardless of your choice
>the slime should just bungle your butthole regardless of your choice
If the dev isn't sure the player wants some fetishes or weird sex acts, they should present the player with options at the start of the game to turn those things off.
Example:
I don't like vore, so I turn it off at the start of MGQ, everything is good, play the game, don't see any vore, but voregays still get their thing everyone is happy
but instead: the vore character mid-way through raping Luka asks him if she can eat him and he said "no" and then she respects his choice and just continued with normal rape
would that be better? no second is immersion ruined
The yes option should freak her out, have her call you a weirdo freak, and leave
The no option should have her laugh at you and do it anyways
Doing it in universe like your pic gives the impression of a consentual roleplay like the meme disclaimers say on WEGs, as opposed to a real sexual attack with the settings only existing out of universe. Maybe that's what you want for your game, that's a dev decision.
Anyway Slimes are for Tsundere breast expansion content
>Maybe that's what you want for your game, that's a dev decision.
Yes, I understand why it was done. WEGs continue to disappoint.
It's a problem pretty much all porn rpgs with loss scenarios have. It's hard to balance actual "consequences" and what a player is willing to put up with. Take a look at something like CoC for example. It's a game about rape, tf, and corruption where it's virtually impossible to get tfed or corrupted unintentionally.
>Near impossible to get force tf'd, which I enjoy quite a bit
>Easy as shit to have a bunch of eggs laid into your ass, which I very much don't enjoy
Why they do me like this?
>have to deliberately handicap myself by playing moronic to get any involuntary transformations
this is a problem in most tf games that aren't doing "slow tf from the start"
>this is a problem in most tf games that aren't doing "slow tf from the start"
There really is no one true answer to the problem. One big slow tf absolutely kills replayabilty and waiting around for shit to actually happen is a good way to kill a boner. See: basically every "plot driven" mind control/slave vn ever.
Flexible survival tries to strike an actual balance. Unless you play very carefully it's super easy to wind up mutated and most quests provide a slow tf that progresses as you do the quest. My only real complaint (which may have been addressed by now) is that the majority of mutations don't seem to provide you with much of a benefit to help counteract the insanity meter they add.
FS is a good one, yes. Particularly nice that you can tune the game before starting for more difficulty or to favor certain things. It would be great if it wasn't so furry.
I don't mind the furry stuff (sheep girls are cute) I just wish they would stop letting the cabal of literal homosexual super doners on patreon have so much control over updates.
Finally someone who gets it. Hated that bullshit. I'm playing a game to be fricking dominated, not treated with kids gloves, it's such a huge turn off when everyone acts like I'm about to cancel them on twitter if they act a bit rapey. (Not to mention the game itself having nearly zero prostate stimulation stuff, despite being able to choose it as a fetish at the beginning.)
Another case of this shit in the game is the fox. Everyone hypes her content as having some amazing femdom scenes (and it was actually pretty original how she "tricks" you into becoming her slave through hypno sessions), but then you get the option to cry, and for all intents and purposes, with the flow of the story so far you'd expect her to tease you/bully you more, but instead she starts apologizing for being such a meanie, completely killing my erection in the process. Yeah amazing domme you got there guys.
Cultured gentlemen. This exact shit is why I hated three charms 2, where it's heavily implied that every time you're caught you get caught you're either let go or saved outright by your ninja monster girl servant. I'm here for bad ends when I lose, not this mickey mouse bullshit. Thank God the third game is a return to form in that regard.
>Thank God the third game is a return to form in that regard.
So I guess you'd say...
...third time was the charm?
Had the same disappointment. Which sucks cause Kotone ticks nearly all my boxes. But the "she's actually nice" fakeout ruined it.
Weak dudes who find the idea of being raped distasteful when it starts to get actually rapey.
No, it's purely because of moral busybodies taking away the entire thing either by outright outlawing it or by removing any way to pay for it, such as mastercard and visa
Tastefull unbirthing.
Succ Witch is the best girl because of the kissing and cuddling scenes
The level-drain tail is ok too I guess.
>didn't like sandworm's scenes
skill issue
Why is she such a c**t?
Try the Sequel games and the Three Charms series, you might like them. You can also try the ROBF series, although only the first game and the latest game are translated.
>ROBF
Isn't that the series where the dev is a huge xenophobe and uses esoteric kanji puzzles as gaijin protection?
Yes, he only did that in two of his games though. Also he’s alright with gaijins now (two of his games are on Steam with both English and Chinese translations) but he still hates pirates.
Also he put a joke about Ganker pirates in ReBF, it’s hilarious.
>I didn't like because the protagonist was wanting sex and wanted to frick the girls
Good thing you already qualified yourself as brain damaged.
Speaking of brain damaged
I'm interested in ROBFS both because of the Collab in Paradox and because I love Ragnarok Online.
How is it? Gameplay, plot and sceneswise
Plot is barebones
Gameplay is battlefrick where you have to make them cum before you
There's monster capture/NPC harem collector mechanics though where you can take the girls back to your house and frick them there properly without battlefrick constraints
Not him but I'm sold, picked it up.
I have been compulsively checking the itch page daily-ish for the past week and a half or so hoping it might show up. Someone in the comments said there will probably be proper Capital stuff up next. The gold Mimic says she has some tie to the casino there so I'm really hoping for a Mimic threesome.
Its honestly my personal favorite of the big 3 monster girl games series and you get a whole lotta content out of it especially you immerse yourself in how the battles work.
Story is really nothing special. The gameplay is fun though since there are a multitude of different builds to use, no two people are going to play the same way. There’s also a really good capturing and evolving system for every monster in the game, you get to have them as partners that help in fights. At least ReBF had that.
Are the monsters all just girls with animal ears and such
Not really, you won’t see abominations like MGQ has though.
Where the FRICK is Part 3???
>lead female character in a vore game
>has 1 vore scene
>it's not even that good
Criminal.
God her route in paradox was the worst, almost zero story relevance and her already lackluster personality was even further flanderized. At least Morrigan is cute I guess.
Alice and Luka are really cute together.
>Alicetrash
Leave
Shinji, NOOO!
>Look up fan art for Alice
>There's always someone commissioning futa of her and Kurisu from Steins;Gate
Why
It's not futa on futa is it?
Some of it is
>Anon doesn't know about the other guy that always commissions art of futa Weiss x every other female character in fiction
No idea, some people are really dedicated to their waifus
It's futa x female.
>It's futa x female
Then I'll allow it
>the dude who commissioned 100+ images of MGE apophis futa x FF14 cat girls
Why
Autism is a hell of a drug.
>Doing it in universe like your pic gives the impression of a consentual roleplay like the meme disclaimers say on WEGs, as opposed to a real sexual attack
Yeah, the entire game has sort of an overly friendly "dreamlike" tone, even the loss scenes rarely border on being rapey. That's the only scenario where you're outright asked if you want to do buttstuff or whatever in the middle of fricking though, iirc.
>Anyway Slimes are for Tsundere breast expansion content
Man, I'm not even a BE enjoyer but growing Slime breasts activate the FRICK outta my almonds.
>That's the only scenario where you're outright asked if you want to do buttstuff or whatever in the middle of fricking though, iirc.
It's literally the first encounter and sets the impression for the entire game. It's reasonable to expect more interruptions going forward.
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Myusca is my wife
These mary sues seriously ruined paradox's dlc plot
to be fair they werent meant to be there in the first place
Total Shikibus DEATH
I got to ask, is there a way to exorcize or kill a succubus of her kind? They appear to be resistant to conventional means, so how does one effectively contain them?
Assuming you can that is
Outside of maybe extremely high explosives or something you're out of luck
The Succ Prison succs are OP as shit compared to humanity
Isn't she in the MGQ paradox crossover? How does she match up to the usual fare in that universe?
The three are treated as equals with the Lilith Sisters/Seraphs and the MC of the time from SHRIFT compares Myusca to somewhat top tiers from his game, Nemea to her, and says Vinum is a monster who can't be beat by humans.
Nemea and Myusca are considered insanely top tier compared to the peotags from the other games and Vinum specifically is compared to the Old One from SHRIFT at one point, and I think she personally implies she's even stronger.
(You) don't. More succs can unite and contain a world ending succ, but I don't even think Paradox cracked out Luka beat them fighting seriously.
>her vid barely has her entire body in frame
was my game glitched or something? the bouncing breasts are nice but is there any actual way to get her game over with her entire body in view riding, like myusca??
you can get a little creative if you know how to rip the assets. thats what i did at least after i cleared the game of course
Succubus Prison has to be the worst collab pandering I've seen. Frick power level homosexuals. It's pretty clear they are unkillable because the dev doesn't like seeing his femdom fantasy ruined. Shrift is similar with the moral virtue signalling muh murder is bad against monsters that are unrepentant and will continue killing. Hate that
They're not unkillable though, you literally fight them as bosses and defeat them multiple times
And later you even recruit them, too
Even Vinum herself basically tells Myusca to stop being so reckless because they're not in a world full of shitty weak humans anymore
you can complain that they're overrated in terms of power maybe, but they're not even the strongest collab characters
You have to run from them in some of the gameplay because it's a crossover with the original game which is a horror game where you do that
>They're not unkillable though, you literally fight them as bosses and defeat them multiple times
They always present it as them being in no real danger, Luka straight up jobs to them
Some of it could also be Shiki pandering as well. I find it suspicious that the CGs that involve his characters losing/dying are drawn by someone else.
>could anyone actually beat them
ENTER
Based Ushiro no Shoumen poster
Great manga.
There's a canonical crossover event following the first one where Luka goes in to their world to try and save the MC of Succubus Prison somehow IIRC, and he has to sneak by the Succs since if they spot and catch him, he literally dies instantly. You aren't even given the option to fight them. Keep in mind that Paradox Luka by this point has fought and driven off two of the Apostles of Chaos, so the Succs are at the very least strong enough to fodderize a Luka of that level.
>Luka has to sneak by the Succs since if they spot and catch him, he literally dies instantly
sounds moronic, bet it was a condition of the crossover "you can include my characters but they must never lose"
Because he entered that world and thus had to play by its rules. When those same succs entered MGQ world they became like any other enemy and they get BTFO by Luka, or even a party of regular humans that are high enough level.
It's less BTFO'd and more like they never took shit seriously then got shocked by how much stronger the other casts were. Vinum in particular never takes the encountered in the crossover seriously and if she's at least as powerful as the Old One, then she should be beyond them outside of an Apostle showing up to gank her.
Just wife her bro. Succubi are weak to marriage.
Become a lich
Good luck sucking the life and soul out of my dick when none of the above are there
>her favourite position is forward cowgirling
holy based
>99% of the monster designs are unsexy as frick
>horrible artstyles that constantly clash aside from like 1 artist
>like 40% of the scenes involve luka pissing or something
>most of the scenes involve him being fricking eaten and dying
>story is the generic “god is… le EVIL!” shit we’ve seen from the east 10000 times already
>monsters treat people like dogshit, literally rape them to death, and insult them while they do it, but somehow you’re supposed to sympathize with them in any way
This game fricking sucks and the only reason people like it is because of nostalgia
In hindsight isn't the reason Alice asks for food because she's not milking any humans. Her food gag is actually a display of restraint.
DUDE
FRIENDSHIP
based
SOURCE?
Monster Girl Dreams
Thanks
Monster Girl Dreams. There's a sidequest involving a moron Wyrm girl causing trouble and you need to calm her down with the power of friendship (And also your wiener).
Cute and dumb, just the was I like them.
>leveled tons of jobs and races in the LoC
>still want the achievement in part 3
A very easy mode speedrun can't take more than 5 hours can it?
It's been 12 years since part 2? came out and it still feels like yesterday
PART 3 WHEN???
>PART 3 WHEN???
10 gorillion delays left!
>main heroines are e-girls
I hate that being a straight man is punished these days
>Ignoring the childhood friend abomination endgame
Succubus Prison was a dogshit collab because the time loop event fricking sucked and locked you in, the only redeeming quality us Luka being spanked to death by the mermaid
brutal
I liked it when Luka entertained the idea of burning Rami and the imps so he can get their ashes out of sheer annoyance of being stuck in the time loop.
>spanked to death
is that a euphemism because that sounds messed up
It's heavily implied, Luka dies at the end of every loop event
why did part 3 get delayed so often? is that rogue guy still translating these games?
Do you mean Paradox Part 3? Feature creep. It's two routes, each longer than both Parts combined, plus a not-so-secret third route, but we have no details on how long that is.
And no, Rogue has been gone for a LONG time, never touched Paradox. The new team is solid though, they even go out of their way to add some QoL and UI improvements.
>plus a not-so-secret third route
Will you be able to have both Alice and Ilyas with you?
Probably? We know Ilias gets a Chaos God form so that's likely the result of the third route, but we don't have much hard info on it, just informed assumptions.
>Will you be able to have both Alice and Ilyas with you?
Yes. In the initial part 3 demo version there was a certain event on the map with the flag "chaos route" and Luka, Alice, and Ilias all in the same party.
been playing few h-games lately, since recettear is my favorite game ever I like economy based games so now I'm playing black market monster or whatever
it's alright, bit easy even in the hardest difficulty but it has monster girls. I don't think there's any monster girl game that it's nearly as good as mgq though
>nearly three months without an update
THE /WEG/ CURSE CONTINUES. EVEN MONSTER GIRL VANILLA CANNOT ESCAPE.
there's no weg curse, there's a furry eroge curse.
help I fell in love with bnnuy
>puts your game in a development limbo
Venefica was a mistake
If Venefica was the reason the game never gets continued, it would still be a worthwhile sacrifice
I really need to check this bnuuy's content out. People seem really fond of her.
NTA but it's my favorite content in the game.
Ahhhh, this takes me back.
I miss the days I played various eroge.
Maybe I should get back into it.
Time seems to have frozen still since then, still the sames now as now as then. once the third part comes i will truely be aimless in what to look forward too
drop all these hags, magical monstergirls academy is the new hotness.
I only see 1 small chest, that's not nearly enough.
Literally who?
>drop all these hags
>...academy is the new hotness.
you almost had it
when are we getting a full translation...
>he doesn't know
i only know of one that's only translated the beginning but, you're right, i dont know.
A full translation has been out for a while. I think there's a link on /vg/.
Wasn't the translation actually 99.9%?
>western mg game
>ever being good
hah
>Alright let's go to this brand new zone to see which weird monster girl will suck my penis this time and holy shit I would have never guessed it's another eldritch horror that will vore me, just like the other 4 monster girls before it
I just fricking can't
sorry boring bob the ntr general is two blocks over
Yeah it's irritating the amount of constant vore shit there is, i just want to get dry fished or fricked to near death by a monsters vegana.
eh, you take the good with the bad
Vore is my favorite, though.
Good for you
It's a little foolhardy to think monsters will rape you but won't eat you
Whatever the case it kills the boner
Simply don't lose against any monster girl with a big mouth or a gaping hole somewhere because those you just know it is a vore scene. Losing against fairies, cute vampire or fox girls is safe and vanilla.
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For the nostalgia.
i remember playing part 2 i think at the end of 2012 and posting here while everyone was talking about the end of the world
PART. 3. FRICKING. NEVERRRRRRRRR.
Slight question, can i enjoy paradox still even if i only played like 2/3 of the og ep1?
You won't get the story at all without having played the original trilogy
you're gonna miss the biggest "oh shit" moment in the entire franchise and most of the context.
Consider replaying the original, it doesn't take too long. I did so recently because I was in the same boat as you and the last act is pure nonstop kino (As long as you're not looking to rub one out LOL)
I didn't really enjoy the twist of Ilias planning for Black Alice absorbing her, but the last fight was kino.
the true "blind" experience. you're gonna be confused regarding who most of the "major" characters are.
whenever he loses his shit, he awakens the genes that he got from his Lucy. otherwise he's...yeah.
Paradox is a really good example of a reboot of an existing property that's made for existing fans but still works as an entry point. A lot Paradox is built on subverting/expanding on the VN, but it still works on its own. That said, I still highly recommend the VN, since it's great on its own and will give you a much better appreciation for Paradox.
Luka is pretty badass in general, between that and him making fun of Alice throughout the VN I'm surprised how many people don't like his character.
I'd imagine the major problem people have with his character is how repetitive his OH NO DON'T SUCK MY DICK MUH ILLIAS MUH COMMANDMENTS AAAAUUGH dialogue gets in H-scenes. He's probably really great in a deathless run.
That makes a lot of sense, I skipped most of the H-scenes on my first playthrough so I never saw most of that stuff
This (and the rest of Sabasa) is when the game goes from good to fantastic. From here to the end of Part 2 is what I consider some of the finest character and story writing I've ever seen in a game. I think even Torotoro didn't really have a sense of where his story was going until around this point.
I had zero problem in the VN because I played Hard Mode. I lost a lot, and a bunch of victories were close calls. So getting onesidedly raped like that was something I accepted since it took everything from me; Luka would be weakned and spent from the losses.
Ironically that made me agree with Lazarus. Luka was blessed with spirits and winning was still hard. Humanity could NOT deal with friends-turned-foes.
So I didn't understand those issues until Paradox. In Paradox, it's another story since all the screaming doesn't make sense for the Request scenes aside the reversal ones like Mei draining him.
>Ironically that made me agree with Lazarus
Agreeing with Lazarus is pretty standard fare I think. I won't say he did nothing wrong, but Lazarus is legitimately one of the most sympathetic antagonists in vidya. Undoubtedly in the top tier of that meme villain chart
Lazarus is well written in that his arguments seem to make sense but they do fall apart under scrutiny. His argument is that humans and monsters can't coexist because there's a power imbalance so humans are unsafe. But there's plenty of that in working civil societies. Civilization doesn't collapse just because anyone could shoot or stab or strangle each other at any moment. Some people hate cops because they're government sanctioned force, but we generally agree that while power is abused they're still necessary to maintain order. Monster being able to rip you in half at any moment isn't that absurd when you consider humans can do the same with weapons.
Also, if even we do accept Lazarus' arguments that monsters are a threat, provoking them like he is would be a horrible idea.
Lazarus is just projecting his trauma from seeing his buddies torn in half and assuming that because he wants hates other races and wants revenge, everyone does. The only good thing to come from Ilias Kreuz is that I'm guessing seeing Marcellus slaughter monsters (and being descended from a famous genocider) was very attractive to Lucifina.
While he's definitely a frick up I think his point is more about how building actual trust between humans and monsters is a pretty massive endeavor that could fall apart at a moment moments notice. The only real social contract that can be set up here is "be nice and you get food and companionship" whereas every monster has a built in incentive to attack people and the strength to do it. I mean just think of all the fromer human succubi who joined in with their attackers after they were transformed
Lazarus overstated how hard it would be to build trust, and how fragile that trust would be. He didn't believe that it could be built up to a level where it was stable, but is proven wrong. Hell, the entire Noah region in the VN is proof enough.
>Noah grande is a good example of integration
Dude...the colosseum.
I'll shamelessly quote a post from a previous thread in which an anon tried to explain how the human women of Noah Grande have accomodated themselves to monster integration:
>They've kind of developed a cuckold/revenge mindset judging by Noah Grand's colosseum. It's probably a common occurrence for male significant others to get raped+mindbroken by monsters and human women don't really have any recourse. They literally can't compete, so they begin to feel inferior which probably leads them to resent men for liking it so much. That's why the colosseum is populated by women who pay to see men get defeated and raped by monsters
Why don't human women just become rapist since the men enjoy getting raped so much?
Human tail can't compete with monster grippy
>humans outnumber monsters by a factor of 10 so it's only 1 in 10 women who're losing out,
>implying that monstergirls are monogamous
Lol. If posters like
are anything to go by, that 1 monster girl is going to bowl through those 10 men in an afternoon
>it turned into a joke since people stopped going their to fight. Everyone knows what they're signing up for, its consensual
Exactly the problem. The colosseum is just a microcosom of the larger problem: horny men (all men) will treat monster pussy as their chiefest pursuit. Nothing matters to them but getting their rocks off day after day. The whole society will be made of gigacoomers, which is unproductive.
>I think this is an issue of a small portion of society being blown out of proportion due to the game following Luka around.
Admittedly yes, but it's all we have to go off of. I'd love to see more of this world because I think I'd be vindicated
Promenstien got close...the anon above you has the right idea
>Human tail can't compete with monster grippy
Sounds like a skill issue on their part.
>Promenstien got close...the anon above you has the right idea
She was a rank 9 angel working directly for Illias and still failed. Humans wouldn't get anywhere close to her tech without illias supporting and with the monster girls being able to interfere.
There's some kinks to work out (Grangold shouldn't have been so slothful and should have planned better for a magic power outage and subsequent monster revolt), but technology and magic are humanity's best bet at obtaining parity with monsters' power levels. Pic related should prove my point about technology's power
>Humans wouldn't get anywhere close to her tech without illias supporting
exactly, we need more support. Praise Ilias for giving us the power and means to stand up against these incredibly powerful beings (even if her intentions were selfish)
>with the monster girls being able to interfere.
Don't know what you mean by this
>There's some kinks to work out (Grangold shouldn't have been so slothful and should have planned better for a magic power outage and subsequent monster revolt)
So if literally anything goes wrong, Human are getting the slave magic turned on them. Great.
>Don't know what you mean by this
Promenstien was able to develop her tech completely sanctioned by Illias. Humans would have to do it in secret with powerful monster girls who would oppose.
We ultimately disagree on the degree to which monsters are able to integrate without succumbing to their instincts. I'd argue the game suggests that it's possible, but there's a lot open to interpretation given how many violent monsters there are. I don't agree that the monsters are as violent as you say, but if I did then I'd agree with the rest of your argument. Ultimately, we don't have enough to draw from in the game, so it's ambiguous.
In the end it doesn't even matter if Luka's ideology is correct, coexistence isn't a theme of the game anyhow.
You're a bit too reasonable for this website, anon. Thank you for the spirited debate.
>So if literally anything goes wrong
eerrm, it's called a backup generator. It's also a good reason why slavery is wrong because you're harboring a resentful and populous group who will seize you given the opportunity. A revolt is just an eventuallity unless you employ some drastic and counterproductive countermeasures (i.e. sterilization which terminates the supply of slaves or depriving them nutritionally which hinders their productive capabilities)
>Humans would have to do it in secret with powerful monster girls who would oppose.
Hmm...humanity will have to play it's cards right, but I think it's doable. Kinda tells you all that you need to know about the dynamic that monsters would oppose humans empowering themselves though.
>eerrm, it's called a backup generator
If backup generator fails or other problems with the magic outside of the power source. It's a dam, a few cracks is it takes for a flood.
>humanity will have to play it's cards right, but I think it's doable. Kinda tells you all that you need to know about the dynamic that monsters would oppose humans empowering themselves though
If humans want to get stronger why don't they just go to the spirits and start mastering the 4 elements. They can do that without pissing off the monster population.
Ever set foot inside Gold Volcano? It's hot, and there's a nonzero chance you'll get turned into a scratching post for a basilisk. I think it's an easier alternative to simply arm (and baptize) the general populous with magic and guns
>They can do that without pissing off the monster population.
Monsters will attack and rape either way. It's who they are. Them getting pissed and organizing is really dangerous though, so it'd be best to avoid that, but there's really no getting past the fact that monsters just aren't fond of powerful humans. Look at the knights targeting the Ilias continent for producing all of those heroes.
Just master one or 2. You can handle a good chunk of monster girls with just one element. That's all Luka needed to defeat that chimera which tanked an attack from Alice.
The knight didn't target the humans for producing heroes. They,and by they really just one, targeted the heroes because they were being sent specifically to attack the monster lord. The heroes aren't even actually strong they're sperm is just made to taste bad.
>They,and by they really just one,
Alma's hurricanes go whoosh
>Just master one or 2
I thought the same thing. Slyph might be useful alone just for running away (which Luka never does because)
>they were being sent specifically to attack the monster lord. The heroes aren't even actually strong
Yeah, it was never really a contest and they wouldn't have made it to Hellgondo's shores anyways
Alma wasn't actually attacking or subjugating towns.
>Yeah, it was never really a contest and they wouldn't have made it to Hellgondo's shores anyways
That doesn't mean humans get to send soldiers over to attack the leader.
The main problem with the colosseum is that it turned into a joke since people stopped going their to fight. Everyone knows what they're signing up for, its consensual (except for Luka who actually does want to fight). I think the women are just horny, keep in mind that humans outnumber monsters by a factor of 10 so it's only 1 in 10 women who're losing out, which isn't too far off from large cities in real life. Again, I think this is an issue of a small portion of society being blown out of proportion due to the game following Luka around.
>the entire female population of a city developing a cuck/revenge fetish because they got so unbelievably mogged by monstergirls
>also gave one of the best Alma scenes in the game
I fail to see the problem
>Civilization doesn't collapse just because anyone could shoot or stab or strangle each other at any moment
lol. Try living in Chicago, LA, or New York and tell me how civilized you think those places are. Seriously though, I understand what you mean with cops, but you're comparing apples to oranges. Police officers are humans so we can apply human motivations to their actions, but you'd be making a mistake extending that to monstergirls. It is ingrained into their biology that they are violent rape machines. Some, I assume, are good people, but, under ideal circumstances, we'd really only be able to integrate a small fraction of relatively benign monsters into human society. Even then, I can really only imagine some marginal economic benefit for humans in that scenario, so why bother expending all the effort trying to incorporate an uncivilized race into civilization?
It's said that the current human - monster relations is a powder keg that could ignite into war at any moment. Luka admits that there's a bunch of problems that aren't easily solved due to the differences between humans and monsters, but it's still better than the current hostile relations. Examples of dangerous cities don't disprove the existence of functional societies, either.
Also, I think the monster girl's sexual aggression is overstated since we're seeing the game through Luka's perspective. You mostly only get to see the monsters he has to fight due to them being violent. Also he's a genetically perfect specimen with his hero/angel bloodline, so he's essentially monster catnip.
>Examples of dangerous cities don't disprove the existence of functional societies, either.
Who makes those cities dangerous? Disfunctional, uncivilized people. Functional societies are only that because of the quality of the people who comprise them. If you populate your cities with monstergirls, you're going to get uncivilized, deleterious behavior that erodes society, I guarantee you.
>Also he's a genetically perfect specimen with his hero/angel bloodline, so he's essentially monster catnip.
Maybe there was a eugenic motivator subconsciously, but I recall monsters lusting after luka mainly because he was unbaptized and appeared weak/submissive. This should give you some insight into the desirable qualities that monsters will select and breed for when interacting with humans. Don't need a crystal ball to predict that human men, driven by lust, will aspire to weakness and submission (look at the boys in yamatai village) if it will get them mindbreaking monster sex.
>You mostly only get to see the monsters he has to fight due to them being violent.
I think you're trying to imply that there are also lot's of benign monsters, but, really, let's not ignore all of the crazy, violent ones. What's more, besides Luka, who is able to keep the violent ones in check? Not looking good for your average Joe...
>but it's still better than the current hostile relations
I'd put my investment into refining and improving Grangold's slavery magic. The integration of monsters into human society is simply untennable as they are now.
>I'd put my investment into refining and improving Grangold's slavery magic
You're not enslaving the 4 heavenly knights. Or the monster lord. Or any of the queens. The slavery magic will only bring strife.
>Who makes those cities dangerous? Disfunctional, uncivilized people.
The most monsters can be civilized. Nobody said this process was flawless and had to happen immediately, it's just about extending the olive branch. Luka himself says the coexistence doesn't mean having to live in the same cities.
>I recall monsters lusting after luka mainly because he was unbaptized and appeared weak/submissive
I've said it again and again, but you're only seeing the monsters that are lusting after Luka for being a shota because Luka is who the story follows. You don't see the monsters who want a tall meathead because they don't approach Luka.
>I think you're trying to imply that there are also lot's of benign monsters, but, really, let's not ignore all of the crazy, violent ones.
There's serial killers, rapists, murderers, etc. in every society. Shit happens, life goes on, doesn't make it impossible. The nations in MGQ have guards and militaries for a reason.
>I'd put my investment into refining and improving Grangold's slavery magic
Grangold only survived because they reconciled and were able to fight off a later threat. If you don't help them reach a compromise in the game they're later shown to be completely destroyed.
>The most monsters can be civilized
They're civilized until they're not, and you don't want to be around when they're not. I think the best evidence of this is how all of the monsters treat Luka in the epilogue. They all have variations of kidnapping and raping him despite him being a close friend and saviour of the world. How civilized, right?
>inb4 Tamamo put them up to it
Probably didn't take much convincing
>Luka himself says the coexistence doesn't mean having to live in the same cities
Well perhaps, I'm really just arguing against integration
>There's serial killers, rapists, murderers, etc. in every society. Shit happens, life goes on, doesn't make it impossible.
You're not getting it. Serial killer, rapist, murderer tendencies are baked into the genetics of almost every monster girl. We're not dealing with cases of miniscule outliers here--there's a 1:1 genetic correlation between being a violent rapist and being a monster girl. It's just what they are, no avoiding it.
>The nations in MGQ have guards and militaries for a reason.
Strength disparities not in humanity's favor I think.
>Grangold only survived because they reconciled and were able to fight off a later threat.
That external threat (an even more violent invasive race) is gone now...how do we structure society now? That's the question, and it might not be relevant in the immediate afterglow of said conflict, but it will become very prescient for subsequent generations of these integrated societies.
>They're civilized until they're not, and you don't want to be around when they're not
Says who. If you get raped by a monster girl it's your fault for getting seduced. Every person who gets raped by a monster girl was clearly asking for it.
>They all have variations of kidnapping and raping him despite him being a close friend and saviour of the world
Listen, Luka just gives off an aura that causes his friends to want to rape him
Simple as
>Luka is pretty badass in general, between that and him making fun of Alice throughout the VN I'm surprised how many people don't like his character.
Luka is a total weakling to start with. And that's pretty unpopular. Even if the character grows and gets really strong, a lot of being just aren't willing to stick with them when they're a jobber.
>everyone too busy chasing after monster girls
>i have all of the trees all to myself
Anon are you going to put your dick in a tree...
someone has to feed the squirrels
I can respect it.
You're nuts, dude.
>get caught by a dryad while balls-deep in a tree
>she becomes incredibly turned on and tells you to keep going
>treefricker
send this guy to Kanon
Kanon?
https://mggcollection.neocities.org/list
password is the name of the 2nd best heavenly knight, all lowercase
pretty much every MG game you could ever want is here
I'm typing granberia and nothing happens...
I am here for the rare Tams
I came here to draw more Alma...
https://files.catbox.moe/q4ufjl.png
>Alma
>With a dick
I feel like she's just going to use that like she uses her tail...
Cool art, anon
One thing I really loved in the VN was its application of the elements and learning about them. Gave me some Avatar nostalgia.
Usually the guy gets, learn about the elements and at the end starts shooting them or something. Here Luka gets the opposite: the pact with the Spirits gives him an application of the elements straight away, but they are simple or clumsy.
Instead of learning how to hone them from there, he instead had to learn the basic principles and then the emotional does the rest. Sylph only gives him a wind shield at first, but learning about freeing himself together with the wind finally allows him to ride it, dodge and guide it to his blows. Earth is just some hardening but channeling willpower could make him tank multiple blows and summon super strength.
This whole emotional side also hurt his use of multiple elements as some of them were diametrically apart (Water requires the calm mind to sway along the current - that alone already makes the willpower of the Earth hard and borderline nulls the burning spirit to use Fire) and it is exactly because of those principles that he could still use a fraction of them even after being deprived of the spirits.
Best girl
would
how do i enable full screen on Youmaen?
>potential ethics and ramifications of "co-existence"
Not this shit again.
We'll always come back to this. There's only so much to be said about the porn here
I want a slime girl freind
same
I've came buckets to pic related, it's funny in a game with monsters and tentacles and all that shit, a hot chick with a defined belly is what stood out to me, her game over is my favourite as well with all the riding and zapping
Ariel had me looking up her scenes from days
How is the vore in this series? Is it some pussy shit where the prey gets to go free or it feels good to die or something? I want monster girls to slowly flay human beings alive in their stomachs over the course of hours, it should be deliberate torture and they should get off on the pain they're inflicting.
>or it feels good to die or something
Yeah, basically
I cant think of a single vore scene that didnt involve Luka ejaculting whilst dissolving
That's a shame, thanks
Back to searching
former
Praise illias
Give her breasts back!
Wow, she's finally attractive
Something has to be done with demons.
>world where monster girl is actually monster
>true mercy is canon
Those monsters can still be reasoned with. The first beast girl, you can bandage her leg and she becomes docile.
care to explain how a lampas is born?
There's a lampa you can talk to and she won't rape you or anything. She gives tutorials on how saves work. I think you do fight her once but after she's docile. They're sapient you. Well you can't compromise but you can get them to agree not to rape you.
anon, Lampas requires 1 innocent life to be born.
That doesn't matter for the ones that already exist. Or to say you can't agree to it. There's grounds for peace
>we want more of our race
>sure let me catch some men so you can get more member on your side
human traitor
You can give them the degens though. The ones we don't want.
>you can't frick a lot or you'll die
that's why MGE > MGQ
it begins
I can fix her
She was cute even if she was an evil b***h
I bet Luka could have set her straight if her mom didn't eat her. She was just raised wrong.
PUT ME IN, COACH, I CAN FIX HER.
>just casually master one of 4 great spirits that will fricking kill you if you don't impress them bro
This works for Luka because he's one of the strongest beings in the world, descended from a bloodline of heros, godkings, and literal angels. The average schmuck won't even be able to make it TO sylph, let alone learn how to control her element. It's why the system worked as it did, monsters are so strong that the human race literally had to wait for the hero's bloodline or someone of that caliber to save the world from the monsters sperging out once every few generations, the power gap is just that large. Full coexistence could never happen in a setting like this, realistically. At best there could be a fragile peace, something akin to the Cold War enforced by super specimens like Luka, Alice, and her 4 henchmen. That is unless humans advanced enough technologically, like some other anon said
Skill issue. Heinrich was just a normal guy and he was Eden level which would be enough to beat any monster in the VN.
Human can use machinery and technology
>game about sexy monster girls
>it's fricking shotashit
I have such visceral hatred for shotaBlack folk holy shit. I wish I could just skin you homosexuals alive and throw you into the ocean.
Calm down, Pablo.
Luka just needs more time to grow up.
i kneel to this future serial killer over anime drawings
I'm sorry you dreams were shattered by my rock hard erection.
This, a guy who looks capable getting overwhelmed is an infinitely superior concept
What is the point of a monster girl game, when real life non-white girls are essentially monsters, while being avaible to frick for real?
real girls do not have tailpussy, or big meaty paws, or cool wings, or multibreasts
Nor do pixels on your screen.
Real girls can't do (soft) vore.
Real women are shit at femdom.
game got me with doll joints
What are some fun luka builds for a new playthrough?
Hero glass cannon is a bit boring
>Ugh, that is actually gross and disgusting...
>...
>BUT!
>Lose and actually feel the most tremendous sensation of a disgust boner, can't believe what I'm getting off at
>She teases the fact you're making babies with a disgusting slimy slug
>Biggest load of my life
>Felt shameful and quit the game
>Now wish I never gotten used to monstergirls since now I don't feel that alien arousal mixed with disgust anymore
FRICK!
This was basically my reaction to Vampire e-girl
I couldn't look anybody in the eye for a week after nutting to her scene
yeah that scene woke me up to e-girldom, and also left me deeply ashamed
Same her face riding scene into cowgirl awoke something deep inside of me I didn’t know I had, and even now she’s still my favorite MGQ girl
I love the slug girl I also love the futa slug girl in paradox
The futa akanames are the best scenes in the Three Charms games
Can't believe no one made a futa-centric bfrpg yet (ToA doesn't count)
Pandora’s Forest. There are almost no girls in it, only futas. It’s futa on male though.
That game was hot as frick despite the art being mediocre
I don't think I ever saw that scene, how do you get it?
Herm futa, or dudes with boobs futa?
Don't think I ever saw "dudes with boobs" futa in a game? Unless you mean traps.
I just mean futas with no veganas
I fricking love futas and I could not for the life of me understand what's the big deal if pussy or not pussy, they are all the same to me.
I just like the idea of a small dude having sex and impregnating a big futa
>pregnant futas
Hot, but I've only seen one video with that kind of content. Mind sharing some recommendations?
most of the stuff I know is probably too furry for this thread
>I just mean futas with no veganas
Sounds a bit disingenuous to call them that, since the image that came to mind was literally just a dude with breasts, and I assumed you meant futa for people into bara or something.
They do have veganas but there's only one character that ever uses it. Someone who needs to ask that probably wouldn't enjoy a futa on male game though, so I'd steer clear if I were you.
I believe he is asking "do they have veganas as well or only wieners?" in a snarky way
Does it matter, it's for homosexuals either way
No idea they don't show enough to tell. Except one girl who does have both a futa and a standard female scene because the futa stuff is magic.
What matters to me is that they're cute and feminine unlike the ugly manfaced futas you see in WEGs.
my save broke right before some bridge with a boss fight and i basically never scored ( the shop chick being the exception) i need to give this a shot again
Protip, try stealing from the barbarian town on the northeast side of the jungle area
Only bad thing about this game are skills being tied to gacha mechanics.
Because I'm a gambling addict and spend hours farming to roll.
You can just get tons of currency from the gacha by doing the prostitution stuff hidden in Ymir’s dialogues. You practically have to do that to get the true ending anyway since it not only makes you powerful enough for the final boss, but passes the time so Gawain’s buddy gets corrupted enough for the true ending’s conditions to be met.
I loved the slug in the original and I think she made one of the best first impressions for me in the VN.
Thank God there was no futa back then cause I’m not into that
Sex with zombies
WOOOO, ZOMBIE BLOWJO-OOOOOW!
Why is Alice like this
ANON THOSE ARE
It's okay bro they're clearly male-presenting
>they're clearly male-presenting
This might just be the most insulting thing to tell a flat monstergirl.
Why is that little boy raping another little boy?
Alice knows deep down that Tamamo could cuck her if she wanted. She's laid back enough to gain trust, cute enough to be disarming and foxes are objectively desirable to men.
How do you get more alchemy reagents? I'm only getting them through ultra end game passive skills
It's been a while but I think it's literally just that. The Alchemist job has one auto-search passive built into it, and then I think it also unlocks it as an ability, and they stack, so having an Alchemist with the ability on should give you 2 searches per turn.
you can buy gold dust in part 3's shop
I like monster women
>that image
Must be a bot.
sharty cuck doesn't even know the difference between MGQ and BS lol
It's all pedo themed chinese cartoons to me
>expecting newbies to know what MGQ is
ikr only 1 mention of fluffy tail in the whole thread
best I can do
it literally has all those
>alice in wonderland references
check
>eldritch girls
check
>fairy tales characters
check
>rape
check
big difference is one is basically a harem/shonen mix and the other is just some sort of non-stop pity fest.
So all this talk about humanity vs monsters but didn’t TRTR state if an actual war happened, humanity would come out winning in the end?
They would but with heavy losses.
Good for me! Just to imagine the kind of bullshit they'd have to face, the fact they'd still win is amazing
Yeah, but it's based purely on plot fiat. Realistically monster girls would obliterate humans with zero effort. Even Luka can't handle heavenly knights after the plot of the game and there are at least two known cases of single monster girl destroying the entire world. Once phenomena of ruination are shown that list is going to be a lot longer.
>Even Luka can't handle heavenly knights after the plot of the game
I assumed it was because he was exhausted and didn't wanna fight anymore.
By the end of the game Luka could surely take on the knights when going all out.
Alma Elma and Granberia state it's because Luka can't fight properly if it's just a normal match. It needs to be a serious battle otherwise he won't have even half his full power.
TRTR also stated that some of the monsters Luka fought were the apex of their races, not the rule. Which was why in the war the humancentric countries had soldiers able to beat endgame monsters and artificial chimeras. Luka fought the exceptional, but they could deal with the rule with reasonable struggle.
Luka encountering only the very strongest monster girls while the rest of them can be handled by humans who do not have even 1% of his power is incredibly contrived bullshit.
Adding on to that: the QA explained some inconsistencies. Luka fought a Dark Elf, early on, which is a variant explicitly stronger than normal elves, while the normal Elf was fought by Sylph's forest and a harder fight. The Dark Elf he fought was average by their standards, while the Elf was the top that guarded the forest.
The opposite applied to the chimeras where the ones Luka fight were top of line, while the armies were composed of mass-produced cheaper ones.
It wasn't only, as Dark Elf was the average of her species. But let's put the view on the perspective of a war itself: it won't be a 1v1 battle, it won't be fair either. Luka and Alice actually learn early on how the enemy armies easily got disorganized and had to disengage when the commanders were taken down. While Lazarus does point out that's something normal in an actual war, on multiple occasions we see the monster girls and the angels didn't have a proper chain of command or analysis of the battlefield as a whole.
Humanity was quick to fight back or recompose in losing situations, while the angels were struggling to estabilish what they were supposed to do or lead when a commander was taken down and monsters became chaotic.
Only two races made proper use of tactics and could keep a good composure amidst all that: the Harpies which were benefited by a genius Queen and the Vampires that followed feudalism and a code of honor. The Mermaids HAD a proper hierarchy but they didn't make much of it unlike the aforementioned two races.
This doesn't make any sense considering marcellus and his team of peak humans struggled all the way to Hellgondo, and only barely beat Alice's mother when she was even trying to lose. And on top of that the OG trilogy implied that Marcy was carrying the other three, meaning those of the hero's bloodline are really the only ones that can consistently beat the monsters beyond the first two continents solo. It really makes no sense that humans could beat a species with superpowers with intelligence rivaling their own, especially if they're all working together (mostly).
Marcy is Luka's dad and another descendant of Heinrich.
Marcellus is a weak shit that jobbed to 6 year old Alice.
Exactly. And with that being said:
>Marcellus>>>>
+ the other 2
These 4 were the strongest in the world at the time. There's no way TRTR is convincing me humanity would win in an all out monster conflict without a major tech someone on Luka's level carrying them to victory, there's just no way.
it's already written in trtr blog, human may be weak but they are proficient in team fight and outnumbering the enemy even in original timeline.
Games that monster girls make fun of your nude body and embarrassment but are really enjoying it and the cute reaction before raping you?
The horrid designs of most of the monster girls in this game made be emphasize with Ilias Kreuz
Never played these games are there cute bug girls?
iirc there's a whole chapter about a war between bug girls and plant girls and you're asked to pick a side and help one against the other
OOPS VN WHEN
I don't know but val would make bank if he had one made
I already fapped twice today but this thread makes me horny and wanting to do it again even with my balls sore...
For me it’s rami, the vampire girl, or the tiny silver kitsune
I tried playing this ages ago but it felt really outdated. How do i get into this? Isn't it like a Rance situation where's there's like 10 different games?
If you thought the first game was somehow outdated, don't even bother.
Yeah but i like monster girl stuff so i really want to give this a chance. Does the pace picks up midway through?
Don't bother.
I mean it was a VN from like 2012. And with every single monster having a scene they had to use multiple artists which caused a loss of consistency.
Paradox is a more recent game but it uses the RPG-maker engine of a few years ago.
As for your answer: technically only 2 games. But they were each divided in 3 parts. The original Visual Novel and the MGQ Paradox RPG.
But Paradox only has 2 parts released. We are still waiting part 3.
Paradox is GIGANTIC. They made a point to explore the entire world of the VN
>multiple artists
I didn't about this before since i didn't went far on the original. Does paradox has this as well? I gotta be honest i hate when the CGs are done by multiple people.
homie, Paradox has hundreds of companions. There is no way a single artist would be able to draw them all. You need tons of them.
Damn..... still forcing myself to play it later but that's not a good sign
>There is no way a single artist would be able to draw them all.
They just didn't find someone autistic enough.
Sure, anon. When you find a guy who is willing to draw 10000+ quality cg in timely manner you should inform the dev.
Skill issue
If you don't like the system of fight -> story -> fight -> story -> town -> fight, etc. you probably won't like it. Though most people seem to think the game picks up at Part 2.
i like illias even though she's a monster masquerading as a non-monster
Ilias is the best
best place to get paradox? loved mgq back then but never got into playing paradox due to extremely slow tl time
See
The password is the worst of the 4 heavenly knights
time to bust out a real monster pic
I still can't believe trtr actually gave his blessing for this shitshow.