>Reading Call of Cthulhu newest edition
>See pic related
>Laugh at stupid boomers that don't use phones/tablets/laptops to view PDF's and run games if they want to or rules search.
Why would they put something so stupid in a current TTRPG book? This is so boomer-land it blows my mind.
What do you think? If someone said I couldn't have my phone turned on I'd tell them to frick off, personally.
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>zoomerbrain cant imagine without beeps and boops
well imagine my shock
But Anon, how will OP frantically spam his reactions gifs on discord?
Call him wanker. OP hates that.
Did Chaosium release an 8th edition or something? Seems kind of pointless and misleading to refer to a game that came out a decade ago as "newest" as if its something that's upcoming or just arrived.
That would be the newest version, genius.
The word your looking for is latest. Newest implies something is new and something that is a decade old is not new.
Nah mate, that guy's right. New implies new, recent implies new. Most recent and newest and latest all only mean appears last on a list of things ordered by time with oldest first. I baked three trays of biscuits a couple of days ago, the oldest tray was 10 minutes older than the other two but them being oldest didn't make them old. If you think newest implies new you should steer of car salesmen, especially second hand cars.
>run game for zillennials
>look up and see 5 players each on their phones
>run game for boomers
>do not see a SINGLE phone
Dunno what to make of this. Been told I'm a shit DM for not being able to compete with the dopamine machine but it has to be a fricking generational thing. I've seen boomers addicts to their phone too. I just don't fricking use technology at the table. I've wasted time copying monster stats into note cards so I don't have to use my phone while DMing. I've had people get pissed I didn't reply to texts for 5 hours because I was running DnD. I don't care. I know being the DM is the most engaging and yes I get bored as a player. That's why I don't understand why DMing is so undesirable. It's the most engaging role of the group.
zoomer gamers will never be millenial gamers even if theyre right on the cusp.
too much gaming difference.
>why people no DM
DM is hard job
as in, there's work to be done, far more than being a pl*yoid
that's it. that's why
>DM is hard job
Depends on the game. All games are a b***h to run until you master the art of Ass Pulling.
>I wanna do X
Alright, gimme a Y check
*Run with the result*
Monster stats are nice and all, but you should have a general idea of what level appropriate enemies can do, average stats, equipment, etc to the point you can Ass Pull an encounter on the spot and run it well.
You know the area in general, you can Ass Pull a shop/inn/NPC that fits to move shit along.
Just slap a quick note about that existing now and move forward.
Your actual planning should be for stuff that you know will get interaction (a dungeon, major POI location, important NPCs, etc), the overwhelming majority of your game is gonna be an Ass Pull because players are gonna do their own shit. In that way, players are gonna flesh out your world more than you are. You just move shit along. Absolutely do not be afraid to let players fail and deal with their consequences though.
Nta but
>DM is hard job
Harder than playing, yes, but currently people tend to overestimate the actual amount of work needed. Depending on the game (the moving parts, overall complexity) and the person (being quick witted or not, having a lot of sysmastery or not, etc...) with 1-4 hours of preparation you can have up to 2-6 game sessions worth of content to use, even more if the players are prone to in-game discussions.
That said people should not get a pass just because "prefer being players", if you get bored because you don't have the spotlight and things are getting dragged down a bit you should find game related activities to engage with, like taking notes, drawing maps, defining downtime procedures for your character, reading the manual, etc... and not browsing your goddamned phone.
me on the left
Seems about right. The kids don't care about the actual game or adventure you're running, they want whatever social clout comes with being a "tabletop game nerd."
>Seems about right. The kids don't care about the actual game or adventure you're running, they want whatever social clout comes with being a "tabletop game nerd."
angry potato joe is online?
or is the computer even turned on?
>the social clout of playing TTRPGs
Damn where you at, I might just sell my house and move.
Being a "nerd" has been cool for more than a decade now. Not an actual nerd, mind you. You should purchase a single D&D book and a set of dice and post pictures of them on... Twitter I guess, with captions like "lol I'm such a geek."
>they only buy one book so they're fake gamers
Normies don't want to spend $900 buying every piece of shit WotC puts out, making them smarter than most posters on /tg/.
Buying anything from wizards makes you fake
People say that but forget how frickhuge of an improvement 3e was over 2e and the absolute batshit amount of content that came out for it.
5e is little more than a very simplified version of 3e (which did get more bloated than a tick). It isn't surprising that it became popular.
That said, 5e is probably the worst edition I have ever seen in terms of content. No straight up campaign settings, no adventures that aren't 1-20 campaign books that are all mostly shit, and the fricking thing has been out for TEN YEARS. People trying to shoe horn the system to fit everything is incredibly annoying too. Dudes on a map, going to trap filled dungeons in search of loot, and that's it. Play like that and D&D is still a damn good system. Using it to be psychic vampire lesbians trying to seduce a goddess of roses and rule the Meat Flap Male Eradication Front is dog shit. You want THAT kind of game, play FATE. You want a NOT! 40K setting with loads of vehicle battles? GURPS.
But, no, some moron has made a 5e version of those games that is universally going to be shit but SUCCESSFULLY keeps people from even glancing at any other system. d20 back in 3e honestly did that shit better.
>Play like that and D&D is still a damn good system.
No. I vehemently hate 5E when played like that. It's a truly garbage system.
lol, yea, and translations of foreign literature SUCESSFULLY prevent people from learning foreign languages.
Dunce.
A lot of people are going to go their whole lives without ever learning a game system other than 5e D&D, this is fine, die mad.
It's not the amount bought or not, it's the content produced with it. A current year normoloid may have 3 books and 0 proof of games in 10 years (maybe 1 or 2 filled character sheets on d&d beyond) while, in the same time span, a deranged anon may have a shelf worth $1000 of inane shit complimented with folders containing physical campaign notes and character sheet PLUS a hard drive filled with work in progress notes, maps, etc...
it's not about the clout. the truth of the matter is that they are looking for a far lesser experience than what the older player is; it's partly their fault and partly not their fault, because of popular stuff eroding the outside view of a hobby
I unironically would rather game with the person on the right.
The little dice box/tray combo is a good invention and is unfairly maligned in this image. Nothing else appears wrong at first glance.
>t. thirty five year old boomer who looks unsettlingly like the left hand person
>Two braindead consoomers
>Neither can imagine anything other than media
Match made in heaven
the thought bubbles represent inspiration not imagination
If that's what you got from that, I feel sorry for you.
>If someone said I couldn't have my phone turned on I'd tell them to frick off, personally.
Sure, don't let the door hit you on your way out. Make sure to cry about it online for likes and upvotes.
>Sure, don't let the door hit you on your way out. Make sure to cry about it online for likes and upvotes.
Why do boomers need detailed miniatures to use their imagination? Why do they need to turn tabletop RPGs into off-brand Warhammer?
This
Me and my friends didn't even use GM screens or battle maps and just drew on regular loose leaf paper meanwhile the guys I play with will get confused as to how to play without something sitting their that's a direct one to one with what's supposed to be happening in hsme.
It's ok to be poor, anon. It is more fun to use miniatures for some games, some times. Props help create an atmosphere.
Right? It's the worst. On the other hand, I rand a game for a few months for three people in their early twenties, and me and one other player in our 40s. I said "please keep your phones away" during character creation and it never came up again. Every once in a while someone would look at a text or something discretely. But asking seemed good enough to mostly prevent the problem.
Poverty is not a temporary state for the majority of people and there is neither do they have any way out of it. Your condescension speaks to your vapid and psychopathic personality. It's little wonder you're addicted to consumerism, being such a hollow and easily influenced person.
A general rule at my house (And I'm not joking here,) is that everyone leaves their phone by the door. Myself included. If you need to use your phone or it rings, you go to the front foyer to use it. You can come back when you're done.
Hahaha, holy shit, what a fricking loser.
Go frick yourself Black person, that anon is based, seethe moron.
>mindrotten creature that can only communicate by spewing buzzwords
You don't even play any games, frick off.
Imagine getting THIS UPSET over having to leave your phone by the door. Holy shit, you weren't raised right. Your parents failed you. Sorry anon. I pity you.
I'm sorry you think that is normal and acceptable behavior. I'm sorry you were raised that way, I'm sure there is a lot of underlying trauma there, but you can be and do better than your parents did.
I definitely miss my college years(99-03) and being able to just have a game without constant interruptions. I wish I could wave a magic wand and magically make any mobile device more advanced than a Sidekick stop working. Force everyone back into first person POV again.
Everyone's going around just desperate to flex on other people in petty ways. Off-leash dogs at the state park, blasting music on bluetooth speakers on the bus, stopping to have conversations in busy entryways. My wife's a librarian and they won't even tell patrons to keep conversation volume down or not look at porn on the computers anymore because they know they'll have a fight on their hands.
Autists of the past used to be buck broken by neurotypicals until the less severe ones could LARP as a normal person and that was a good thing. I'm totally serious here, aspies who would be incel NEETs today worked part-time at the computer repair store and had a weird girlfriend in the 90's.
You house sounds like shit and you sound like a shit person.
Glad I'll never have to associate with you. Have a bad weekend and hope you join us in 2024 one day before you die of old age.
I know that this is just easy bait.
Seriously though the number of people who simply can't function without constantly staring at a screen is mind-boggling. It does interrupt games. And dinners. And conversations. And work. And literally everything. Buncha socially moronic children who can barely look someone else in the eye without having a fricking panic attack.
I never thought I'd end up being the old man that yells at the cloud, but here I am... Older, and everything is more cloud-like, and I want to yell.
As someone who can’t look people in the eye without having a panic attack, I absolutely love that it’s socially acceptable now to never fricking hold eye contact while you have your magic slab out. Everyone’s a zombie, safely locked away in their own containment sphere. Autists of the past could only dream of how good it would get.
Glad you found your safe space, anon. Psych. Grow some fricking balls, learn social skills, and stop pretending that incompetence is an illness. You have to learn things.
I sure was not expecting the boomer brigade but it is the weekend so...
Every good DM uses a laptop or tablet. Note cards is caveman stuff.
You're on /tg/. We've always been an older crowd. It's been clinically demonstrated that people who don't write by hand have worse memories and comprehension. It's an incredibly important skill, and it's actually a niche hobby among zoomers. You should get into it so that you can become smarter and better than you are.
The DM is allowed to keep his computer out because he's playing all the time so he can't get distracted by Reddit or Twitter or Discord. Pl*yoids need to stay focused and should use paper sheets so they do not mentally check out the moment they're not in the spotlight.
90% of this thread was mad when telephones stopped having cords, so I wouldn't listen to these fools about anything.
Hand writing notes lol.
>2024
>Not using the most basic tech everyone even has in their pockets and uses for most jobs
Boomers are currently dying at a rate of 1 every 15 seconds, hope it gets lower soon and takes the other braindead cavemen with them soon.
Do you homosexuals even play TRPGs ? Or you're doing it for social media clout ?
I'm 39 years old.
My phone keeps me in contact with my family and has alerts for when my type 1 diabetic daughter who is 4 years old goes to high or low so, you can frick off with telling me what to do with my phone.
Also, do you boomers not have downtime where you're character is doing nothing or someone is looking at some rule thing that you can't just check your messages and/or Facebook for a second?
You dipshits sound like if you look at a phone you can't look away, which sounds like a personal problem with being old-brained as frick.
"Hey, anon, could you turn your phone off?"
>NO FRICK YOU, MY FRICKING FREEDOMS. YOU FRICKING WANT TO TELL ME WHAT TO FRICKING DO, ASSMUNCH? FRICK YOU, NOBODY TELLS ME WHAT TO DO
I doubt my response would be that drastic but if it helps your argument to make up imaginary responses from people you don't know, go for it.
I'd tell them I'm not turning off my phone and will be keeping it on me and powered on, if that is a deal breaker, I probably wouldn't want to join your table anyway, so nothing of value would be lost.
"I WILL **NOT** BE TURNING MY PHONE OFF, HOW DARE YOU EVEN ASK. IT'S SOMETHING OF A DEALBREAKER. IN FACT, I DON'T EVEN WANT TO JOIN YOUR TABLE NOW! MY moronic DAUGHTER WOULDN'T WANT IT. IN FACT, NEITHER DID I. FRICK YOU!"
Black person, we're in the same miserable age-range, and last thing I need is for my players to be worried about their social media upvotes or likes, while I'm trying to manage a game of Shadowrun or Mekton. Because it means they cant unplug their brain from Zucc's spyware network for five fricking seconds to divert their brainpower for something else than deep fried tiktok slop or reddit upvotes
Your kid has diabetes? Fine, understandable in that regard, but if you're gonna get distracted every 5 seconds for retweet notifications or derail the game to show us a shitty tiktok trend while the rest of the party is trying to set up a hit on Renraku's R&D facility or prepare to face a skaven engineer ready to take over fricking middenheim, then you and I will have a fricking problem
No offense, but if these are the players you see with phones then you're community is garbage and shit.
I'm a fricking adult. I know when to use my phone and when to not use it.
I'm not autistic either, so that might have something to do with it. I suggest getting a better friend group. These issues are not related to the tech, they are related to the people you are playing with.
Also, the way you throw around the word ''Black person'' makes it pretty obvious about the kind of person you are, and the kind of people that would associate with the kind of person you are.
Like I mentioned before, I probably wouldn't want to play with you or your playgroups anyway.
Is it your daughter's diabetes you're worried about, or are you starting xer on testosterone already at age 4?
I refuse to be punished for other players' problems. Fricking kick them.
This is exactly how addicts react when told they have a problem.
We can't all make it through life with an abacus, you fricking braindead old piece of shit.
Okay, okay! But would you mind just putting your phone in your pocket and not taking it out during the session?
No.
Okay! Okay! You're not addicted. You just need access to your phone at all times. I understand.
Then die
I AM NOT ADDICTED!
I CAN QUIT MY ADDICTIVE VICES ANYTIME I WANT!
Imagibe having littld self-control lmao. Fricking hell.
senile old frick thinks he's not the boomer lmaooo
>Lemme check FB for sec'.
Fricking Hell mate. Of all the places and knowledge at your fingertips? I'll make sure to base a npc on you for my next Kult one-shot.
Frick off this board already!
No.
>just check your messages and/or Facebook for a second?
You go to places to hang out with people in a social environment still have the compulsion to check Facebook?
Bro you sound wound up.
Close Ganker, chill for a bit.
>trusting your partner so little with your daughter's life
>or being a single parent
Lol
Come back when you turn 18, underage gay.
>spawned a genetic subnormal who would die in nature from...eating food
>is a phone-addicted poofter
Yup checks out. Do the world a favour and euthenise yourself and your dead-end family asap.
Oh, you're that guy. The guy who swears he can make time for a game, but then he didn't tell THE WIFE and shows up to the session with his kids in tow and is like "CAN THEY JUST PLAY IN THE LIVING ROOM DURING THE GAME"
Frick you. If you need to be monitoring your child's blood sugar 24/7, then you should be doing that rather than fricking off until your kid's old enough to take care of themselves. There's a whole group of people trying to do a thing here.
And don't give me this KIDS THESE DAYS shit. I'm older than you.
I play in a dark room with candles. Playing any gay game on the phone will certainly kill the atmosphere. Lucky me, my players also think like this.
>"Ehm, I'm using the computer for my pdfs, telling me not to use it is ableist against people who can't read a physical book."
>"Anon, it's your turn."
>"Huh? Sorry, I was browsing Reddit, what's happened?"
>the youngest of boomers are/will be turning 60 this year, with the oldest being ~78
How many do everyone in this thread know who even have the mental faculty to stay awake at a table for hours to a time, let alone play a character properly?
Where is the lie?
Running a game for my generational cohorts can be an exercise in uttermost frustration because of those things.
It's worse because half of them keep their character sheets on their phones, and every time we've gotten physical sheets half of them manage to lose them in a week. I've even tried keeping all the character sheets at my place but they still manage to fricking lose them.
One day I'll grow enough of a backbone to do more than ask them to put them away, but they are friends so being firm is harder than it might be. They're not respecting the time I'm putting into this by looking at twitter but if I go off about that I'll sound like their fricking mothers so who knows. Maybe I'll just start hosting games somewhere with no signal like a cave.
You must be a pretty shit DM to lose character sheets that are kept at your own home huh.
I play in a group and we look at our phones all the time and are still invested 100% into the game.
What kind of mental issues do people have that would require them to be 100% phone or 100% dnd lol.
Stay mad and I hope all your friends leave you for a better DM because you obviously can't cut it.
>router has a phone app that lets me manage the parental controls
>specifically, app blocking
>blocks both the website version and the executable app
>can be put on a schedule
At precisely 6:30pm sharp on session nights, the internet mysteriously becomes incapable of connecting to social media sites. Who knows how that could be happening? Anyway, make your attack roll.
Well Played, Sir
Those fricking old moron thinks phones can't get on the Internet without wifi.
lol.
lmao.
Maybe I was a little too vague about it, but nobody's even noticed that I've done it yet, and it's been over a year. They don't get any notifications, so it isn't demanding their attention. When they do look at it, it gives them a loading screen, then they look away and get engaged by the game before they notice that it should have loaded by then.
Lol. He has to trick his friends to pay attention to him.
lol
lmao
yeah idk man when threads about smartphone use pre-covid were more popular i had the same opinion
if you literally cannot trust me to pay attention to the game without outside input why did you even invite me to the game, similarly i just let me glance at my phone if it gets a message christ it takes like 10 seconds to drag it out, glance at it and put it back away - you dont even have to stop narrating
>olds demand to be treated a certain way
>olds demand others behave certain ways around them
>olds are also unwilling to alter their behaviors in any way to suit others
>throw a fit when others don't want to deal with this
Hmmmmmmm, I wonder if theres a name for this kind of behavior
Setting boundaries.
Not when The Kids These Days do it though, then it's moronic brainrot and probably liberal corruption too
Sounds like cancerous toxic behavior to me.
Hopefully they die off soon. They are usually shit RPers and DMs anyway
Don't cry so hard little anon.
Someday soon you will be old.
Someone caring will wish for your early death.
The Circle of Life.
The GM is called game MASTER for a reason. If you cannot accept that, you should not play.
I’d say everyone is allowed to use their devices under the masquerade of using it for rules but if you start or browsing shit unrelated to dnd you are a shit player. Also it’s your turn X ‘huh’
Shits me off.
T.guy who uses tablet for rules but also keeps an exhaustive pen and paper session log.
everyone with a preemptive excuse is lying and coping
"I should be exempt because [emergency] could happen"
if an emergency happens you tell people at the time it does and they will forgive you, that's how special circumstances work, you don't need to tee them up beforehand
do you think people pre-schedule their emergencies or something?
my post was badly worded
Sorry zoomer, I'm not asking.
Isn’t that literally a felony?
>Your Honour! He was looking at his phone!
>during a tense game of Car Lesbians!
>And he even asked me which stat to roll! >There's only two stats!
>officer you don't understand
>MY PHONE DIDN'T WORK
What are the fricking radio feds going to do, send me a letter?
It's an excellent suggestion, if only because it means not playing with people like you.
Can't wait until these peabrained dipshit old fricks piss off and die already so TTRPG's can evolve past what they thought playing in their basement as 7 years olds was like.
You trying waay to fricking hard in bumping this thread homosexual. The discussion has dried out, move on.
>when will TTRPGs evolve past the TT already
when will angry young turds evolve past the angry young turd era anyway
This, but for everything except fiction. I love reading boomers old fricks fictional fantasies and schizo opinions about the world. But letting them have any say in shaping my world (reality) is a mistake. Its like whole generations have delusions of their worth and opinions. They're amusing at best.
Hang outs for kids these days are literally them in the same room looking at their phones.
Its fricking sad.
Technology has always been fascinating to kids, moreso than socializing. I remember my generation playing those old ass nokia minigolf mobile games like it's a championship in primary school.
The solution our parents did was simply not let us hang out unless we go play basketball or football or something. We didn't go "hang out" we went to do something together. Usually at our parents recomendation, until we grew up.
Parents that take a break from parenting by giving their kids a smartphone are morons, doubly so if they don't do it temporalily.
For there will never cease to be poor in the land; that is why I am commanding you to open wide your hand to your brother and to the poor and needy in your land.
Not that I'd tell you to turn it off, life happens and I don't want someone missing a family emergency or anything, but if you're glued to your phone my group would be telling you to frick off before you'd get a chance to say it.
Hey, wow, a reasonable ask.
Thanks for not being a booming dipshit.
If someone is just staring at their phone tell them to frick off, it's that easy.
Boomers are social morons and a lot of zoomers are as well.
Frick both of them.
Cheers to that
same man. Alot of my players use sheets on their phones, but no one is texting or looking at memes or youtube or somthing. That would just be rude.
When im a player, I do use a spell book app, but everything else is pen and paper
Most of my players use paper, but I recently had a guy that brought a digital character sheet. I was nervous at first, seeing him staring at it during combat, but I quickly realized it was a non-issue when he came into his turn with a plan and realized he was just studying his sheet.
It's pretty much only done in a military context. If you're just raiders, you neither have the time (setting fires isn't as easy as it looks in movies without ready access to accelerants) or the inclination. Your goal is to grab portable wealth and get out of there with a minimum of fuss. If you're a foraging army though, burning homes and farms displaces the local population and denies their resources to your enemy, who presumably has the time and connections to make continued use of the territory when you've moved on.
You aren't allowed to have phones of any type in a courtroom. So do zoomers regularly throw shitfits about that during jury selection and getting held in contempt or tossed out by the bailiff?
It's almost like olds might be delusional and obsessed with the strawmen they make up in their heads
escaping smartphone addiction must be a horrible burden to the youngsters
>he is bumping again to continue telling people how he "rand" a game of d&d in the before-time
>he is confused by the use of no minis
>he doesnt realize a using a grid is an optional rule
I know the spread of smartphones through your area has been like wildfire, but I promise life on the ganges isn't going to change that much, sir. You don't have to self pity bump again, I think we got how much you dislike your pager.