Can't stand meiou, whole mod is like someone took the cookie clicker estate mechanics and made that the whole game. Id rather just play vanilla at that point plus it runs like shit.
>start as Austria >expand the HRE out to original Roman Borders, far into North Africa and the Middle East >decentralized reforms >create HRE-ified Rome.
How does this sound? It'll be one hell of a challenge, playing Austria is already a cat-herding contest as it is.
>start as Austria >expand the HRE out to original Roman Borders, far into North Africa and the Middle East >decentralized reforms >create HRE-ified Rome.
How does this sound? It'll be one hell of a challenge, playing Austria is already a cat-herding contest as it is.
I did something like this a long time ago with Austria. Just have a plan for who gets what. For me Genoa got Africa, Knights got Holy Land, etc. Once HRE princes no longer take up a diplo slot it's easy going. In terms of Europe I never went into Iberia but had good fun balkanizing France.
Post pictures once you've done it.
>He considers a copy-paste from folder A to B to be too much work to bother
Is this the famous Steam brain-rot? Where people below 30 are less capable with using computers than the freshly minted retirees?
>he will have to repeat that exact procedure every update, and hope that his favorite Russian mod pirate site has updated all of his mods, or that Steamworkshop downloader doesn't bug out like it does 90 times out of ten
>no thanks I'm a goyslopper
ftfy
>paying for things is a goyim thing
8 months ago
Anonymous
Jesus Christ, what sort of level of cultism do you have to be to not see anything wrong mods behind a paywall.
When I want to play a mod for Victoria 2 I just go on moddb and download the mod. When I want to play an EU4 mod I have to make a paradox forum account, connect it with my steam account to show them that I've bought the game and only then can I download.
Why can't EWW4 modders just upload their mods to moddb or nexus?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Zoomers don't know how to use computers, its that simple
8 months ago
Anonymous
This is why everyone says buy the base game because it's like 5 bucks and pirate the dlc.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>what sort of level of cultism do you have to be to not see anything wrong mods behind a paywall.
I do see a lot of things wrong with it, but I don't work in Paradox and I can't do anything about it so rather than be a moaning Black person I'll just buy the whole thing for cheap and enjoy hassle-free modding. Go find someone else to be mad at.
8 months ago
Anonymous
All mods are on skymods
I use GoG Eu4 with a cracked launcher.
8 months ago
Anonymous
This is why everyone says buy the base game because it's like 5 bucks and pirate the dlc.
The base game was given for free literally a dozen times. And I'm not snide, just pointing out. Last time was I think something like May?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Imagine being so fricking clueless, you just start saying random nonsense in the dire hope it will somehow stick.
You really have no clue how modding works, don't you?
8 months ago
Anonymous
>moron doesn't know that steam-exclusive mods have to be downloaded through skymods or steamworkshopdownloader >moron doesn't know that mods on skymods frequently go outdated and have to be manually requested to be updated by the site owner >moron doesn't know that mods from steamworkshopdownloader are not packaged with the .mod files needed to actually make the game recognize the mods, necessitating the player to manually create the .mod file themselves for potentially dozens of mods >moron calls anyone clueless when he's clearly a Bethesda drone who thinks every game is as simple as Skyrim to mod
you were probably in grade school back when I had to manually install 70 mods for a pirated copy of Stellaris every single update, zoomie. Don't even bother (you)ing me with some moronic seethe instead of a proper retort.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>a pirated copy of Stellaris every single update
your mistake was updating the game
I just pirate games and play them without any updates forever
8 months ago
Anonymous
that's nice and all but sometimes updates fix pressing issues. I remember the early days of Stellaris when one outpost could claim multiple systems and enemy could somehow steal systems from you without starting war.
8 months ago
Anonymous
This is a good point, I don't think steam workshop lets you download old versions of mods so if you ever rollback an update you'll have to use skymods to get archived versions.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Talks about Stellaris as some distant past >Calls anyone a zoomer >While being clearly incompetent with modding and projecting how hard it is to do on your own
Like the other anon said, why would you CONSTANTLY update the game, other than suffering from steam brain-rot and thus it being done automatically for you? Because I'm pretty certain I was swapping floppies around the time your parents were still in high school.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>moron doesn't deny not knowing how modding modern paradox games work and just deflect to "why do you update so often?"
hmm
>Has Circassian woman swanning over a Russoid
There are times when I wonder if Flick is getting worse and worse at trolling, or has ever-worsening propaganda brain-rot.
>conquerors
That isn't the word I would use for what Russians did in Circassia or with Circassians. But given your post was made during Amerimutt hours, at least your ignorance is somewhat justified
I'm not caught up on Russian-Caucasian politics but I do remember reading about a Russian mercenary officer in the late 19th-early 20th century who despised Circassians so much he would keep a collection of heads of Circassians he had killed under his bed to help him sleep
They wiped out anywhere between 800k to 1.5 million people in an active, deliberate way. It's not "despise", it's one of the better documented genocides ever conducted.
And they did it for a completely useless piece of land that, once so severely depopulated, became even less useful.
It's pretty crazy how everyone (even buddhists) start genociding muslims for no reason haha
8 months ago
Anonymous
And yet China keeps denying that they're committing a holocaust there.
8 months ago
Anonymous
It's not holocaust. The chinks are putting the Uighurs in camps to be assimilated into chinkdom. A holocaust would be if they gas the Uighurs in rooms with wooden doors instead.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Le education camp copium
t. holocaust denier
8 months ago
Anonymous
You do know you just labelled yourself as a Holocaust denier, right, newbie?
When did they convert, they start as orthodox in game
7 months ago
Anonymous
Vast majority of Circassians were members of both the Armenian Apostolic Church and just Orthodox. The ones that SURVIVED were Muslims, because they could just run off to the Ottomans without any major fears.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You are wrong. However you should take your sources for this information to your local university history department and make sure they sign something that will say you are partially credited or fully credited for this discovery. >Starting in 1717, Circassians began to convert en masse to Islam. This was the product of an effort launched by the Muslim Ottoman Empire to expand its influence in the Caucasus Mountains. The predominant branch of Islam among the Circassians is Sunni Islam, which most of its modern-day population of five million practice
During the """genocide""" the circassians were offered the chance to convert and those that did were not killed.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Your "source" says that in the 1700's, Circassians began to convert en masse. It doesn't actually say if it became a majority of the population
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Circassian genocide in triple quotes
Come on, Ivan, you can better than that.
>Circassian
i literally don't even know what that is you stupid fricking homosexual lol holy frickin shit lol poor eurogays are so fricking annoying
"a circsassian ruthenoid caucagolian would never submit to a slavgerm anglod balton, if you look at the spear battle of 1235"
shut the frick up you poor peasant old world country homosexuals lol holy shit, get off the internet, you shouldnt even be allowed to have the internet, the internet was made by white upper middle class americans, for white upper middle class americans. your people could not invent a computer. your people could not build an airplane. if the plug got pulled between us (real humans) and your people, you couldnt even produce a single automobile. so shut the frick up, you arent real
no one gives a frick about your $2000 gdp per capita, no civilization, no modernity, no military, no progress, pseudo country. just go away
that also goes for russians too by the way, im not picking on you got buttmad about russians. russians are also pseudo people too
Swap the effects of 'at peace' and 'centralization effort' for autonomy, then give 'at peace a further -.02 debuff. Centralizing your country should be a continuous struggle throughout the game, with big rewards (more money and manpower) for being able to carry through with it for a long time. That was like THE problem for European states during the game's time. Passive autonomy reduction should be very very low, only to help keep stragglers at a safe minimum of behindness.
Why the frick does the sardinian tree not give claims on central italy states, not even Rome.
You get permaclaims on occitan and gascon culture provinces but not on Rome not even when you own the rest of Italy
Stay on your island Nephilim. The time of the giants is passed it's homosexual SAPIENS now. Maybe it's trying to get you to go into Savoy territory? In either case just make your own claims in Carthage.
You're an idiot if you don't think jannies are selective with their bans. And they would have banned me whether I posted gore or not, they just would have used some other nebulous rule like "offtopic" or "complaining about Ganker".
Anon, ever since new, pro-bot policies came to life last year, I've got banned on /tg/ more times, that I've been banned in total since '09.
That doesn't change the fact that you've posted gore on blue board and throw a tantrum over punishment for that. Your political views and ideas have nothing to do with any of it. It's just wrong image for wrong board.
Hence: drop the image and you will be fine. You might as well just use any of the billion clips of Russian tanks being turned into turret catapults with AT weapons, those are fine game due to being "blue".
>That doesn't change the fact that you've posted gore on blue board and throw a tantrum over punishment for that.
I think I got a 2-3 day ban from that exact same thread, you do get bans from lasism and for ukra-russo off-topic posting both here on /tg/, even if you just call someone a Black person in an off-topic post chain.
But you are right about how fricking easily you get warned or banned on /tg/ now compared to the early days, never been banned before this year, and now I have gotten 2-3 warnings and bans over there.
You're an idiot if you don't think jannies are selective with their bans. And they would have banned me whether I posted gore or not, they just would have used some other nebulous rule like "offtopic" or "complaining about Ganker".
have a nice day subhuman commie, your constant seething is completely off-topic regardless whatever braindead leftist delusion you use to justify it.
>try byzantium run >do everything normally >build army and alliances >wait for ottos to declare on some anatolian minor >? >they declare on me instead >restart >it happens again
Over
I was following his guide lmao
I already had another 1.35 byz run a while ago and the ottos behaved exactly as in the video, for some reason they feel like attacking me first today
>wait until Ottomans build a massive army >declare war and occupy all their money provinces >just avoid battles and let them go bankrupt
I'm not fighting pedos
I've gotten myself in the most cancerous position. I'm playing Prussia, Austria hates me, Lithuania and Poland are separate but allied, France is allied to both Lithuania and Spain.
So now it's just a shit sandwich. I'm just gonna have to chew through HRE princes until I have some weight to throw around. Lithuania has 40k, Poland has 40k, France has 100k, Spain has another 100k.
Your best option is Denmark and Bongs in that order. Denmark is a good ally but dogshit to fight against.
What about Bohemia as well or have you started taking their shit?
Bohemia got HAPSBURGED in the first few decades. They got involved in a war with Hungary, it was complicated, and lots their entire army of 25k. Then Austria pounced. Now Austria has Bohemia, Silesia, and some stuff in southern Germany as well.
bro just do germany by the 1500s just like in the video ez pz end game tag like that
I think I'm going to ally England and hope for the best. France is just so huge right now, it's insane. Pray for me.
What about Venice, Milan, Tuscany? They come in after Denmark and Bongs because Venice is going to drag you into turk wars but they are a good counter (distraction) to Austria.
Also Ottomans has 250k how does that even happen? It's impossibly large.
You are probably playing on VH. Hard is enough unless you are a masochist.
>playing Yuan >randomly have discovery of Australia spread to me >decide to take exploration ideas so I can have a cool Mongol Australia >Portugal shows up out of nowhere and drops 4 colonies before my first one is fully established >"ok maybe I'll go for California instead" >all of Western North America colonized already by Spain and England for some reason all the way up to Cascadia
The year was 1578. I started playing EU4 shortly before the release of Leviathan. Has it always been like this? Does the community not take issue with the state of colonization?
It wasn't always like this. I don't remember when it tilted over, but colonization is way too fast and there are way too many native nations now. I think that happened around the time of Leviathan. I've seen people still complaining, but it doesn't seem like the biggest issue to them, unfortunately.
>I started playing EU4 shortly before the release of Leviathan
Genuine condolences.
Depending on who you ask, the final DLC was either Mandate of Heaven or Third Rome. Everything after those is a mixed bag, and everything after Dharma was a shitshow (Dharma included).
And you've started up when the game was at its lowest low, which absolutely fricked whatever was still playable in the game, colonisation included.
Nobody sane plays past Rule Britannia, and that one is only "up" because bunch of good mods requires patch that came with it.
Like I've said, ymmv, but anything past patch 1.24.1 is actively hurting your game. It really started to rot with 1.25 mission rework into the current trees, mindlessly aping GoY$ design.
1- The state of colonization is the reason it's somewhat fun to play colonizers, you can paint the map somewhat quickly rather than reach 1812 with large strips of land uncolonized.
2- Players are fine with it because nobody knows the history of pre-19th colonization, while everybody want themselve over the 30 years wars and whatnot.
Speak for yourself I'm not fine with it, it's made playing any non major as a colonizer shit and I'm on the brink of just modding all settler bonuses in half and removing half the tribes in the game
There's a guy who posts solutions to your problems in every thread since at least January and they work. There's also another guy who posts the math on Inno in every thread but people still keep posting this reddit tier nonsense that Inno is not as good as 2 or 3 idea groups combined.
Either >look through the archives >put up with it >go cry on paradox plaza
How do we feel about this war? Am I ready? Me and Austria are on same mil tech. I have full quality ideas, he has full defensive ideas. I could wait longer and maybe get an alliance with France, maybe.
This is a big deal so I should probably take it slow, not just jump into it headlong.
Thats an easy win dude. Just take out princes one at a time and keep an eye on when Russia overruns Lithuania. Then its just everyone vs Austria (and England, who will do nothing). You've already won
The strat is to snipe princes while Russia bops Lithuania? I was going to beeline for Austria and use my 3 star general (5 fire 4 shock) to whack him good, which I thought would give us a decisive advantage. I'm afraid that if I try sieging down princes he'll go straight for my capital and I won't be able to stop him. I'll be relying on the AI to defend my land for me.
The problem with bee lining the Emperor is that every country has a -50 "Religious War" modifier to peaceing out and Religious Domination is 50% WS. Plus, loads of little princes really add up. I find it more reliable in any large war to focus nations one at a time before isolating the largest nation
>I was going to beeline for Austria
Don't.
You want defeat in detail. Princes are pathetically weak on their own, and you should take them out first, for the simple reason that you can gobble them all down and, more importantly, won't have to bother with them sending 20 different stacks all over Europe. Instead, you will have 1-2 Austrian stacks to deal with, which can be stalled over a single siege, while you take out one price after another.
Always, and I mean ALWAYS focus on taking out small fries first. This still allows you to push victory, forces AI to "reconquer" lost land (rather than attack your territory) and decreases the number of participants. By the end of the war, you have either a very easy annexation or just as easy vassal. Hell, they might want to bail out of the war on their own, which is still a good thing.
>I was going to beeline for Austria
Don't.
You want defeat in detail. Princes are pathetically weak on their own, and you should take them out first, for the simple reason that you can gobble them all down and, more importantly, won't have to bother with them sending 20 different stacks all over Europe. Instead, you will have 1-2 Austrian stacks to deal with, which can be stalled over a single siege, while you take out one price after another.
Always, and I mean ALWAYS focus on taking out small fries first. This still allows you to push victory, forces AI to "reconquer" lost land (rather than attack your territory) and decreases the number of participants. By the end of the war, you have either a very easy annexation or just as easy vassal. Hell, they might want to bail out of the war on their own, which is still a good thing.
Besides, when you are sieging something, it works like a light source for moths - everything will come to you, but in small, useless stacks, that you will be just mauling to death before further reinforcements arrive. EU4 also changed morale mechanics (and so did 3), so you don't have to be afraid of the infamous EU2 meatgrinder, where sending 1 k of troops in synced way, so new arrival reaches the province every other day kept your morale super-high, forcing enemy to just collapse eventually.
>open the game for the first time >play for a while as cyprus >the year is 1520 >finally land in western africa >discover that all local nations already have cavalry and one has artillery >mfw
some nice Silesian provinces there
silesians are hard workers in fertile lands so this is a nice result
polish economy relies on silesia (which was gifted to them for free) lmao
Starting a new England/GB game. I played my first one to the 1580s and it went pretty well but I made some major mistakes that hampered me in the later game like wasting a ton of ADM coring Ireland before getting the PU event, among other things. I'm pretty decent on handling European affairs as Britain but there's other stuff that confused me.
Any advice for colonization like the order I should do it in? I'm thinking of trying to rush for the Cape ASAP so I can get started on creating the Raj early and also I got cucked by my ally Portugal last time so I don't want to repeat that. Also what should I do for the parliamentary debates? I know some of them are really overpowered but it would be nice to know when to use the better ones.
>I'm thinking of trying to rush for the Cape ASAP
check out the mission if you choose the colonisation path you get cape town for free with a stock exchange.
I haven't played in a long time, but what the frick is this mission tree garbage and why the frick do they all end up giving you free claims on the entire content?
PDX saw how well HoI4 focus trees can be monetized by doing minimal work and packaging 3 or so focus trees per DLCs and thus added mission trees to EU4 to milk more DLCs instead of actually improving the game and adding new game mechanics. At least that's my guess.
PDX saw how well HoI4 focus trees can be monetized by doing minimal work and packaging 3 or so focus trees per DLCs and thus added mission trees to EU4 to milk more DLCs instead of actually improving the game and adding new game mechanics. At least that's my guess.
Yeah it was really fun just repeating the same garbage missions over and over again, really good gameplay.
>Can have missions tied to his current, actual situation, for a bonus that helps with said situation >Or a pre-definied line that often requires to do completely moronic thing to gain a bonus into useless shit
Gee, what a great idea!
EU2 had the best missions. Randomly generates stuff with varied complexity and point pay-off. EU3 introducing bonuses for finishing missions was in the long run a mistake.
>playing Merv in Ante Bellum >fighting my first war against the Shapurids >my 2 siege pip general fails nine consecutive 49% siege ticks in a row >Shapurids succeed on a 28% and come back and lift the siege >I lose the war because of this
Talk me off the ledge anons.
>to not run like shit
Too many changing variables in each province to not choke out the lone CPU core that ew4 uses I guess? So no tricks here >crashing
Personally I only ever crash if I click too much on the yearly processing tick
I love my forts
I love min-maxing defenses
I love my forts taking 2 months to advance a single tick
I love my forts killing 1/4 of the enemy total army all by themselves
I love ez wins on my fort provinces
I wish you could put field armies into forts. Not "refill garrison", but if you had 50k men in a field army, you should be able to shove them in there Przemyśl style. The Austrians had 138,000 men in that fort
That just gets to the point that garrisons are conjured out of thin air. You occupy a castle and it slowly fills to 3k men from...? I guess the locals are just that eager to help you fight their government. Realistically, you should be able to refill garrison from day 1 and this should be the ONLY way occupied garrisons refill. That would make forts totally critical to warfare and would slow things down in the early game.
But of course this will never happen
Should be cores, honestly. Surviving the first few decades should come with big profits, meaning free cores on Anatolia.
I'm not a BYZgay but it'd be cool if provinces also flipped to Greek. Though this also gets to the issue of provinces being monolingual and monoreligious.
That is true comrade, but think it this way, why throw away into an open field meat grinder until they pour into a single fort and then either let them bleed themselves out, or attack them on the fort for an easy, quick victory.
This strategy worked well against the combined forced of the Ottomans and the Frenchfries.
It just makes the game that much easy.
I'm not a Rome lover but out of all the fantasy tags in the game (Novgorod, Mamlukes, Teutonic Order, Ming, etc), Byzantium is the one that seems to get shit on the most.
>fort assault ability -75%
Harsh but presumably you can still just hire a frickload of mercs and siege down Gelibolu the old fashioned way. >shipbuilding time 200%
Blocking the strait on your own will be basically impossible but you can still take advantage of other nations fleets. Albania and the Knights are easy to bring into an offensive war since they have cores on Otto at the start, and if you attack Epirus for your core early on you can vassalize them and benefit from their small fleet as well
What is the historical rationale for this? Low army morale makes sense because people would have seen the writing on the wall and felt they were fighting for a lost cause, but why would shipbuilding time be so much longer when they still had their ports? Why would they become so bad at assaulting forts?
Yeah, historically blocking the strait and assaulting the Gallipoli fort is the easy meta strat for Byz players. Teaching the Ottoman AI to control the strait would be hard, kneecapping the player with a modifier is easy.
>but why would shipbuilding time be so much longer when they still had their ports
Because building ships requires fricking timber.
Guess what you don't have an easy access to as a city state literally surrounded by your enemy preparing to rape your ass
As for forts - no idea, probably "if morale bad, then storming forts for almost guaranteed death badder"
>Low army morale makes sense because people would have seen the writing on the wall and felt they were fighting for a lost cause
>but why would shipbuilding time be so much longer when they still had their ports
Because building ships requires fricking timber.
Guess what you don't have an easy access to as a city state literally surrounded by your enemy preparing to rape your ass
As for forts - no idea, probably "if morale bad, then storming forts for almost guaranteed death badder"
>Because building ships requires fricking timber.
These two make sense. They should also apply to any tag that has one province or has been reduced to 2 or 3 provinces. Massive morale loss for the rest of the game and increased ship building time lmao.
I'd be on board with that if they did it consistently. Also, for all the disadvantages Byzantium has at the start, I actually think they should buff Constantinople's fort level. If they had one advantage, it was that those walls were leaps and bounds above what anyone else in the world had at that point in time. If we're going to get super detailed in giving historical disadvantages, we should also get the historical advantages, few as they may be for Byzantium.
>I'd be on board with that if they did it consistently.
It's too much work for paradox no doubt. It would probably have to be a disaster and then a scroll click decision thing you can select if you get out of it. Now that I mention this the Teutonic Disaster Rise of the Prussian Confederacy as a timed disaster would probably be more palatable.
I think every other "doomed" state (Novgorod, QQ, Mamlukes, Granada, Knights, Irish Petty Kings, etc) should be getting something to show they are fantasy tags.
>If they had one advantage, it was that those walls were leaps and bounds above what anyone else in the world had at that point in time
It really wasn't. And I blame it squarely on PDX that people started to jerk off to Constantinople's fortifications. They were bog standard of that era, their main feature is that they were old, rather than erected in past 50 or so years.
>georgia can now become byzantium by conquering its former territory >or get PU wargoals on Russia, alternatively >armenia can now form super armenia with +1 to each dev in every province you convert to armenian culture
Prussianon back again, I was complaining about how big the ottomans were getting earlier but I have a lucky break now. They took way too much land out of Austria in one war and now half of Europe has enough AE malice to enter a coalition. We'll see if enough countries join to crack them open.
Orange = enough AE to join a coalition
Red = already in coalition
green bars = truce, so can't join a coalition
I've only been past 1600 once before and it was a long long time ago. I'm not really sure what absolutism is or what it does or why estates being high influence is a bad thing in the AoA.
>protestant Prussia
disgusting. Stay catholic as Prussia, become guardian of the faith, then fight the Ottoman whenever they try to invade a Cath country. Usually any Catholic country the Otto tries to invade will be allied to Austria, so already you have Prussia+Austria+an ally country come bearing down on early game Ottoman at once.
you'd be correct. The Ottomans never stood a chance with both Prussia and Austria coming down on them. The flipside of this is that instead of a green blob I have a white blob to deal with the entire game.
>flip to protestant >in 1770 after I've already eradicated Luther's heretical bullshit from northern Europe
nah. I also went medieval on Austria already. Poland and Wallachia used to be white on the map too.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>He released Poland >And gave them Silesia, Lusitia and half of Saxony
You can't be serious
8 months ago
Anonymous
I'm playing a vassal swamp game. Poland, Wallachia, Sweden, England and Novgorod are all my vassals on that map.
I feel like you stress too much. Have some faith in yourself. Also, why is your army so small? I feel like with that land you should be closer to 70-80 FL
ok anons sorry I'm really tense right now because it's on ironman, I don't want to frick up really bad and get mad.
I feel like you stress too much. Have some faith in yourself. Also, why is your army so small? I feel like with that land you should be closer to 70-80 FL
Idk, I'm at max army limit right now. I'm not very good at this game yet.
>ok anons sorry I'm really tense right now because it's on ironman
Dude calm down, it's just a videogame, learn to relax a little bit, being this nerveous and on edge is not good both for your health nor your gameplay
In time you will learn to keep cool even in Ironman
We can give you some tips on how to play better, if you want.
Its okay dude, its only a game lol.
As for your army limit, are you at 0% autonomy everywhere? If you are, you could build regimental camps. Though those are only worth it if you've maxxed out on money producing buildings
I feel like you stress too much. Have some faith in yourself. Also, why is your army so small? I feel like with that land you should be closer to 70-80 FL
Bragging to AI attrition rates is like bragging about painting the map frog-blue - of course the AI is going to have staggering attrition rates, because it's the fricking AI
forts too powerful. Basically turn the game into WW1 a century ahead of time. Armies should be able to bypass forts at the cost of massive attrition and combat malus AKA how forts work in real life instead of magically stopping people from going through.
>forts too powerful. >Meanwhile me with cannons and press cannon button to cast cannon spell and break wall
Forts are only strong before you get cannons. Once you get cannons they're more of a speed bump.
Even if it did by the time you hit the late game your army composition should be an entire back row of cannons so you can easily just get the maximum siege bonus in every siege just by a little stack micro.
>forts too powerful. >Meanwhile me with cannons and press cannon button to cast cannon spell and break wall
Forts are only strong before you get cannons. Once you get cannons they're more of a speed bump.
Aaaaaaaaaand there it is, the only reason why I am playing this nation.
The 1 million reserve achievement, was that hard but wasnt that easy, merely required Quantity + Religious + all Orthodox provinces + Stack the everloving shit outta of Moscow manpower + Spam Barracks/Soldier's Households almost everywhere, which funny enough this last thing was harder to do than the rest.
So funny see taking 50k casualties in a single fight and then recovering that same number 5 months later.
Alright, I dont have a navy and I dont think I will have enough time in this run to actually capture and consecreate Rome's state but I will try nonetheless.
I think innovative would be better if the tech cost reduction was removed and everything else about it would be buffed. As it is the cost reduction is most of the reason to pick it and the rest is cheaper institutions. With no tech cost and better bonuses overall it would shift from you must pick this first to you can pick this mid game to make institutions cheaper as you blob out among other relevant benefits for an expanding mid game country.
so ive found out the mods that let me put technological penalties on certain regions or cultures so i could make it more historically accurate, now is there a way to remove cavalry from the savage nations that never domesticated the horse?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1881890980
and
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=840179139
the second one does the same as the first one in a way but its code is much easier for me to figure out (they need fixing tho, some stuff is broken like colonialism spreads faster than renaissance or even feudalism sometimes).
last eu4 dev diary made me realize the pure, seething hatred paradox has for ERE >"byzantinophiles" >"the interest in this country is uncanny" >entire update is nerfs >very specific penalties aimed at destroying every single viable byz strat >it's a muslim dlc, all other muslim countries just got buffs and cool content
no doubt because any ERE campaign is inherently hostile to the turks, making it a no-no
it has also taken them a suspiciously long amount of time to give ERE any content in ck3, even though in ck2 "legacy of rome" was among the first things they released, but they still ensured muslims and le vikings were playable from the very beginning
what vexes me is that Byzantine still doesn't start with Renaissance already unlocked. The real Renaissance was caused by Byzantine refugees flocking to Venice and bringing Classical ideas back to the west. Somehow the motherfrickers responsible for spreading it to everyone irl don't start with it in this turk-loving game.
Technically the Arab nations and Turks should get it as well. The Muslim learning that this game hammers so hard was just scholars using classical ideas. Also most of them were burned alive or fled as exiles for being heretics because application of the scientific method is sorcery and against their religion.
>what vexes me is that Byzantine still doesn't start with Renaissance already unlocked. The real Renaissance was caused by Byzantine refugees flocking to Venice and bringing Classical ideas back to the wes
You stated the reason yourself, but are apparently too dumb to figure it out.
As expected from a Byzboob
>Renaissance is just the re-adoption of classical ideas >somehow the people who never lost them don't benefit from them at the start of the game
frick off Turk.
This is actually a problem I have with most Byzantium mods, they either have Byzantium reform into English style Parlimentary Monarchy or just continue like it always has. Byzantium in it's last century was profounded introspective, if some miracle (or perhaps more cynically a European alliance) delivered them at the last second, the Renissance Era Byzantium would be a different beast to the past, a wierd combination of Latin and Eastern views
The Ottoman Empire sort of did this for a time, but no one was ever able to fully get over they were Muslim
Let me walk you through your own post, so you can figure out your own moronation. I will use Caps for the important bits >Renaissance is just the RE-adoption of classical ideas >somehow THE PEOPLE WHO NEVER LOST THEM don't benefit from them at the start of the game
Also: if you are stupid enough to consider "Renaissance = simply access to Greek translations of Latin classics", and ignore the ENTIRE FRICKING ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL BUILD UP TO IT, you might be genuinely moronic.
But I guess your stupidity makes me a Turk.
Yep
Yep
They actually focused on this a little in their last century, it is where the idea of capitulating to the Pope in that Union outside of desperation came from
Again they tried this but did not have the money
Again they also tried this but did not have the money
Robbed of all their pride, the Byzantines finally changed in their last century but it was too late to actually do anything, a tale as old as time for Empires
Maybe, just maybe, because Byzboobing is a thing all the way back to EU2 (EU1 didn't have the problem, as it starts without them) and people jerking off to the "Bring back Byzantines back from the brink" concept get tiresome after 20 years
>get tiresome after 20 years
why would it matter?
almost nobody is left from 20 years ago, why would latisha care or even know how the eu2 community was?
>why would it matter?
Imagine being nagged for the rest of your life about some shit you did while still in the college.
Oh, right, you can't even grasp such perspective, as you aren't even 20 to begin with, not to mention spending 20 years being nagged
That's precisely why they are so angry about it: there is nobody from the original team left, and yet they have to react to meme that not only is stale by itself, but never appealed to them in the first place. This is a standard situation with any long-running project that simply gets inherited by new creators over the decades. It's the same hate boner Star Trek writers have to Trek itself - they didn't even want to do it, but got stuck with it and the fandom it brings, so they are lashing out >b-but doesn't make sense
Those people are doing their JOBS. They are paid for it. There is nowhere in the contract they have to enjoy it or even supposed to enjoy it
>why would it matter?
Imagine being nagged for the rest of your life about some shit you did while still in the college.
Oh, right, you can't even grasp such perspective, as you aren't even 20 to begin with, not to mention spending 20 years being nagged
>maybe, just maybe >imagine >oh right
why can't americans communicate like normal people? when they try to be snarky and ironic it is beyond embarrassing
has the corn syrup and marvel movies fried your brains into this state of permanent passive aggression?
That's precisely why they are so angry about it: there is nobody from the original team left, and yet they have to react to meme that not only is stale by itself, but never appealed to them in the first place. This is a standard situation with any long-running project that simply gets inherited by new creators over the decades. It's the same hate boner Star Trek writers have to Trek itself - they didn't even want to do it, but got stuck with it and the fandom it brings, so they are lashing out >b-but doesn't make sense
Those people are doing their JOBS. They are paid for it. There is nowhere in the contract they have to enjoy it or even supposed to enjoy it
the notion is bullshit, just admit they hate ERE because of the abduls they have in the team and the dicksucking rituals they need to perform for them
>No, the real, tangible reason doesn't count >Instead, it's idpol
Let me ask you this simple question:
Who makes a better customer: an entire nation, already constituting of nearly 15% of your entire playerbase, OR bunch of memers that don't even make 1%?
But I guess a corporation present on stock market doesn't care about raw fricking profit, it just wants to do feels-good shit for the sake of it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Who makes a better customer: an entire nation, already constituting of nearly 15% of your entire playerbase, OR bunch of memers that don't even make 1%?
good to see you agree with me
>oh they don't actually really HATE you, they just do it for money
if they did so they wouldn't have to constantly humiliate EREnjoyers or cry about them and spitefully nerf the country to piss them off
they 100% hate ERE because it is the swedish thing to do
Reading this post is funny now, because the latest Dev Diary thread over at the Paradox forums is full of assmad Muslims and leftoid Islamophiles who are seething hard about Byzantium (as well as Armenia and Georgia) getting content while many literal who Islamic minors have gotten nothing so far. They're accusing the trannies/Swedes at Paradox of being Eurocentric chuds.
>Islam nations
Black sheep
White sheep
Persia
Mamluks
Arab dev diary likely focused on minors is next
>Christian nations
Byzantium
Armenia
Georgia
If anything Christians should feel oppressed. I want a Cyprus tree and a chance to convert the region to Nestorianism now to balance it out
Byzantium probably has more players than the rest of those countries combined except maybe Persia, Paradox would have to be moronic not to give them something.
it's actually baffling. Byzantium got massive detrimental factor that made its survival even more difficult, Karabakh is still basically doomed unless in a hands of a veteran player (in which case mission threes won't even matter for a success), only legit improvement was for Georgia, which really was a mere implementation of historical accuracy, instead of being prematurely butchered. Yet muzzies still sperg how now Giorgis and Papapopopouloses will overrun Middle East and shit.
is eu4 combat ai the dumbest out of all paradox games? allies just sit and watch as im getting fricked with their completely capable army not moving an inch to help
>is eu4 combat ai the dumbest out of all paradox games
Not anymore. There is both GoY$ and CK3 AI. GoY$ genuinely can't into the game itself on any level, while in CK3 AI doesn't understand how retinues work and after a rework, also can't stack them properly.
We can argue about Stellaris and V3, but those games are borked, so no point overthinking that the AI doesn't work in them
tl;dr it used to, but there are PDX games with even worse combat AI
I remember the AI being even dumber than it is now, after all its not like EU4 military mechanics got expanded so they had some time to make the AI slightly less stupid, HOI4's combat AI didn't have this privilege, CK3 combat AI does dumb shit but if its just handling one stack its usually okay, i guess Victoria 3 post beta will probably be the best ever if Paradox doesn't keep expanding military mechanics.
i think ck3 combat movement is pretty good. It will always glue their armies to you when you ask for their help and they predict and react to the troop movement on the field, it works like it should in my opinion
also i dont know what you talking about ck3 doesnt have retinues it has levies
I just wish half of them weren't just tech level and previous institution
The only ones that you actually need to think about past commercialisation are meritocracy and global trade, with the latter only really catching your attention because the AI is too dumb to create a proper trade post network by itself before 1700s
I still hate that they gutted MEIOU and Taxes for making a fricking academic economic simulator that fails to actually simulate the economy in a realistic way and can only be played a single way.
I have yet to have played any other mod that had *Had* simulated Byzantium as well without the end result being dude roman empire lmao.
>making a fricking academic economic simulator >can only be played a single way
That's a feature, not a bug.
As in - it's a simulator that exists to prove a specific theory of historical economy is correct.
Westernization as it was - frick no
Tech groups and ability to swap them to higher one, outside the institution system - yes.
The trick is not to make them "cultural", but rather period-based. Thus you might embrace the institutions, but your country is still backwards anyway, kind of how PLC, Ottomans and Muscovites/Russia looked for the most of the early modern.
Essentially you would have both institutions and tech groups in the same time, but the tech groups can be swapped (both way), working similar to the old Innovativness slider
I like vic2's westernization. EU4's one was shite though so no thanks.
>there is no "West" and Europe in that period did not have a categorical advantage over other nations
Pic related. >Europe was in a good position because of muh slave trade
This is bullshit and you can find out why within thirty seconds of researching it, yet they keep mentioning it for brownie points. That or they've been had by their education system. For frick's sake, Rome had a LOT of slaves (20-30% of their population), so did the Greek city-states before them, and they served as the lowest form of labor. The Atlantic slave trade is so overused as an argument against Europe by these morons.
>46% of the 37 discoveries were from the arab world between 200 and 1199 AD out of the 1224 total, which gives 17 discoveries for the arabs at that time >plus the 1% of the 243 in the later date range which gives 2.43 rounded up >((17+3) / 1224) * 100 = 1.6%
Learn to read and what percentages are next time, ahmed.
tried playing some random north american tribe in 1400s, it was pure suffering: a lot of skipping time doing nothing, fighting for scraps, and when i finally got a decent income and some territory everyone unionized at declared war on me almost simultaneously
When playing England, is it better to diplo vassalize a few Irish minors, feed them Ireland, then diplo annex them later on; or just annex it all outright?
The only factor is if you need to keep admin or diplo.
When they make EU5, I'd like to have some emphasis on creating more historically plausible gameplay.
It's 1590 and France has already conquered most of West Africa. The Europeans are all over North America despite England having laid down its first colony historically in 1600. This happens every game.
It's just unnerving seeing every single game be so completely unhistorical. It annoys me. Any mods to fix this? Also, what are the best mods for eu4?
IRL Henry VIII picked naval ideas instead of exploration. Just tag switch to every tag and pick the ideas they picked. >It's just unnerving seeing every single game be so completely unhistorical.
kek just uninstall and read wikipedia
Whoever I'm playing as I prefer to use vassals to hold territory with cultures I don't accept.
When I play Muscovy I always release Karelia and give them all Karelian/Sami provinces. I get a strong vassal, and I don't have to bother with karelian being unaccepted before I form Russia. Same goes with England/Ireland. It's not worth holding unaccepted culture land when a vassal with it as an accepted culture can do it for you.
It gives naval force limit even on landlocked provinces which is really good for Russia. Other than this I would not say it is broken. You get effectively zero tax, manpower in exchange for trade power and goods produced (which is OP if you pay for that upgrade). If you can leverage 50% of the TCs node you get an extra merchant and at that point it starts to become broken.
If you have Domination just annex them outright, don't bother coring run at overextension for a few years until you have the whole island the just release the whole Kingdom of Ireland under PU, then just diplo annex them down the line and keep the event buff.
When they make EU5, I'd like to have some emphasis on creating more historically plausible gameplay.
It's 1590 and France has already conquered most of West Africa. The Europeans are all over North America despite England having laid down its first colony historically in 1600. This happens every game.
It's just unnerving seeing every single game be so completely unhistorical. It annoys me. Any mods to fix this? Also, what are the best mods for eu4?
Back in the day the berbers used to have increased hostile core creation cost, which the AI would consider when attacking them, and there wasn't a strait connecting iberia and morocco
I don't know why they introduced that strait
>devs hate byz due to it being a very old meme or ethnic hatred >they nerf it into the ground, also buff ottos for unrelated reasons >players still find ways to bypass the nerf to btfo ottos as byz and taunt devs about it
YOU ARE HERE >devs get mad >they nerf every way to bypass the previous nerfs >they remove byz achievements so players stop trying to play byz >players mod achievements back in, and undo some of the byz nerfs while nerfing ottos >devs ban the mod out of sheer rage >players and devs keep shouting at each others and being passive aggressive in the forums and websites >EU4 falls apart because devs are too busy being shit on and trying to fix every exploit that could help players win as byz >PDX says "frick it" and starts development on EU5 earlier than planned
You forgot the final step >paradox studios in spain and sweden gets charlie hebdo'ed by raging muzzies for failing at making eu4 players stop genociding turks as byzantium
>4 lepers
nerfed >4 dogfrickers
nerfed >4 bounty hunters
nerfed >4 jesters
nerfed below the ground
I settled on 2 bounty hunters 2 houndsman iirc
I'm going to take a break from Eu4 for a while (my 100% cav armies on holy horde were too OP) and play other games where I can make broken combinations like wartales and battle brothers
>>4 lepers
Explain me the lore of this one.
The 2 backrow Lepers are completely useless, the only thing I can think of they can do is to spam Solemnity to get back to good shape while the front 2 lepers fight?
Thinking of reverting to 1.33 since all the new DLCs suck and are barely even worth pirating. 1.33 because colonization is better than in 1.34. The game should have stopped having these goyslop mission tree DLCs a long time ago.
Thoughts?
Anyone got any idea why burgundy is not choosing me? I have max relations, high diplo rep, max trust, and a large army. They have low relations with the emperor and no main allies besides me
It may help to look at the event triggers, conditions, etc. Here it is: https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Incident_events#The_Burgundian_Succession
Click on the "Expand" buttons to see more.
From what I just looked you must be their ally and have the most provinces among their allies but could be wrong.
Ive read that a few times and i cant see anything there. My only assumption is that there is something somewhere else dictating their choice. Something weighting it
It may help to look at the event triggers, conditions, etc. Here it is: https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Incident_events#The_Burgundian_Succession
Click on the "Expand" buttons to see more.
From what I just looked you must be their ally and have the most provinces among their allies but could be wrong.
I initiated it
[...]
Ive read that a few times and i cant see anything there. My only assumption is that there is something somewhere else dictating their choice. Something weighting it
Yeah here it is: >Enabled if: Any country: >Is not a subject nation other than a tributary state. >Is a monarchy. >Is not the Emperor of the HRE. >Has a royal marriage with Burgundy. >Is not Flag of France France. >Country with the most provinces is saved as bur_strongest_ally
That is ONE of the options, the other two being it going to France or the Emperor of the HRE, with greater odds if certain conditions are met such as +100 opinions and such.
Actually it's a 5 options event my bad, the last two are either if France is already gone or subject nation or declare independence and France gets PU cb over you.
I have the most provinces of the allies, france and austria are not at 100 opinion. I understand it can select itself but it shouldnt be doing that every time. Hell ive gotten it before as like 8 provinces albania
we literally tell you every thread not to rely on the burgundy inheritance event unless you're the emperor or france
just conquer the lowlands like a man
Its not that i really want it. I just dont want france or austria to get it. France is the most annoying country this patch and i dont want to deal with them getting burgundy. I also dont really want to fight a death war to stop them from getting the pu. Its just annoying that there is not a good way to tell the AIs weight torwards an event.
friday night boys >load up eu4 >roll ottomans >open console and hit debug mode >use own provinceid to recreate alexander the great's empire in 1444 >add in a few thousand ducats for mercenaries and 800 of each mana
yeah, it's vidya time
The real question is: why would you? Aztec religion is one of the best thing out there, you should be aiming for that instead of just about any Christian denomination. Why embracing vastly inferior religion other than larp?
Because i want to ally with the europeans as a mean of survival. You cant advance without bordering their colony and you cant survive if they hate you or want your shit, at least from my current experience.
and im not playing aztec, never said i do.
Fine. >Because i want to ally with the europeans as a mean of survival
You absolutely dont need europeans, nor really any ally, if you play as Aztecs, as any other native you need allies.
The catch is that you can war european colonies without dragging their overlords in, a very important tactic to employ is to 'spawn camp' their colonies, wait for a couple of overlord colony provinces to turn into a proper colony, then inmediadly DoW and quickly take all their provinces, even if they are stronger than you, they wont be ready nor have to troops to stop you. Annex the whole colony and embrace all institutions you can
>and im not playing aztec, never said i do.
And I've implied you should be converting to Aztec religion, you dumb shit, but oh well, I guess you need it laid down really simple here.
Without those limitations the game would get boring after two decades since there would be nothing slowing the player's blobbing, if you want more stuff to do in peacetime and the possibility to actually build tall try M&T.
Europa Expanded if you want tons of mission trees, events, and shit to do
if you're into d&d then Anbennar is ok, it does have a better genocide simulation than base game so that part is fun
Third Odyssey for peak autism what if Byzantium fled to the new world meme
Ante Bellum is ok for alternate history stuff too, has custom achievements in game for certain nations in the decisions tab
Europa Expanded if you want tons of mission trees, events, and shit to do
if you're into d&d then Anbennar is ok, it does have a better genocide simulation than base game so that part is fun
Third Odyssey for peak autism what if Byzantium fled to the new world meme
Ante Bellum is ok for alternate history stuff too, has custom achievements in game for certain nations in the decisions tab
>Europa Expanded
EE is beyond broken and has moronic powerups.
>Declares war on me >Literally does nothing, never sends ships to blockade provinces, never disembarks nor walks troops, nothing >Just chill and slowly consolidate defenses and gain trickle war score
Based AI
>Inmediadly after posting this, the roaches for some fricking reason decides to join the war in my favour >War score battle section shows ottokeks actually wrecking the shit outta of the spaniards and portuguese while I do quite literally nothing at all but drill
This is both cursed and blessed
Blursed
>IMMEDIATELY as I post this the Spaniards white peace the ottomans, and portugal white peaces me
What a fricking ride, this never happened to me before
personally I find Bohemia more fun since you get a central European PU swarm to fight your wars, can easily become Emperor and have a religion unique to you. While Russia after the initial wars is mostly just spending years waiting for your armies to march across Siberia.
Why is my English Channel so poor? Always hear it's meant to be rich but I've got half the money Lubeck does. Thinking about taking Denmark just so I can steer some of it.
Also have half the Ivory Coast trade power and 90% of South Africa but I'm hardly getting any money from it because no one in else Europe has started colonizing Asia yet - do they usually get there eventually or do I have to do it all myself? Bit annoying when the entirety of Indonesia is on the same tech level as Europe
You need local trade good production to boost the local value. And more trade needs to be incoming from upstream nodes such as the north sea, lubeck, ivory coast, and chesapeake bay. Since you seem to dominate the channel but have nothing in lubeck and likely the north sea nothing is incoming from there. You also need to boost bird mana dev and build workshops/factories.
Haven't been developing much because I'm chronically stuck with bad rulers and low monarch points, and haven't been building because I'm 7500 gold in debt. Dev in general seems like a really small income benefit for the scarcest currency in the game.
I am planning to take some provinces in North Sea and Lubeck, just need to get Poland or someone to ally me against Denmark. Already took Hamburg, free city AE is ludicrous
[...] >1587 >Why is market entirely dependable on colonies and passing Asian trade poor? >Why the market that collects half of Eurppe trade richer than that?
No idea anon. One of the biggest mysteries of the universe
Does it usually take until later for the AI to start colonizing outside of South/Central America? This is my first proper game so I'm not sure on the timescale
If you aren't already established on the Cape by that year, you have only yourself to blame for such low income CoT
What do you mean by established on the Cape? I own most of it, not bringing in much money though
>Does it usually take until later for the AI to start colonizing outside of South/Central America?
yes, in fact the only the trade nodes you need to get the most out of america and indonesia are caribbean and ivory coast
i'm guessing seville is the richest trade node in the world
Was late to the Caribbean, just have a small colonial nation in Amazonas. Venice (38) and Genoa (37) are both slightly richer than Seville (35) though
>lvl 1 trade nodes
The desolate village of Brabrant
Anyway, do you have West Africa? Guinea is a money printer if you're in the English Channel because all Asian trade eventually ends up there and you can then send it to England. If you don't control Guinea then all the wealth of China won't matter (not in a trade sense) since most of it will go to other nodes. When playing France/Netherlands/England its the most important node to rush. Castile gets away with not needing West Africa because it can rush Caribbean for that American gold. But also, like other anons said, Asian trade mostly goes through Alexandria before being split between Venice and Genoa. Its not until colonizers set up in Indonesia that you can effectively poach Chinese and Indian wealth through the Cape
Don't you need a DLC to upgrade those? All I have is Conquest of Paradise, Wealth of Nations, and Res Publica, because that's what came with it on sale.
I have 51% of West Africa, somehow Spain/Portugal/France combined are pulling ~30% of the remaining power despite only having a couple islands in the area. Presumably because they control the upstream nodes?
I dont like africans m8 so I'm not to blame ok?
I've got 68 minutes played on steam
stop replying as me, schizo moron
7 months ago
Anonymous
i'm surprised colonization is going so slow >don't have all dlc's
oh that's probably why
well sadly for you the greedy devs assume the player owns all dlc's when it comes to balance
7 months ago
Anonymous
Lil bro go to csrinru and cream api all the dlc for free
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Don't you need a DLC to upgrade those?
Do you? Brussels, Holland, and London are level two; so you must have upgraded them at some point since conquering a trade node decreases its level (and none of those are level three in 1444).
7 months ago
Anonymous
yes, to upgrade TC, you need dlc but not having an ability to upgrade them is fine: do not listen to them
Lil bro go to csrinru and cream api all the dlc for free
i'm surprised colonization is going so slow >don't have all dlc's
oh that's probably why
well sadly for you the greedy devs assume the player owns all dlc's when it comes to balance
a lot of dlcs wreak the game balance completely and make player far too powerful, your dlc combination is a good one
>I own most of it, not bringing in much money though
The point isn't owning all of it or making profit out of it, but passing Asian trade through it.
How fricking new to EU4 and its trade system are you, exactly?
Then pic related, I guess
Trade system in 4 is moronic to EU grogs and counter-intuitive to newbies, while being responsible for making 2/3 of the economy work. The only people who find it good are zoomers who weren't sieved out by the game in the first place. Read up just about ANY guide on trade, otherwise you're for a horrible time, especially as anyone around the Channel.
>1587 >Why is market entirely dependable on colonies and passing Asian trade poor? >Why the market that collects half of Eurppe trade richer than that?
No idea anon. One of the biggest mysteries of the universe
>lvl 1 trade nodes
The desolate village of Brabrant
Anyway, do you have West Africa? Guinea is a money printer if you're in the English Channel because all Asian trade eventually ends up there and you can then send it to England. If you don't control Guinea then all the wealth of China won't matter (not in a trade sense) since most of it will go to other nodes. When playing France/Netherlands/England its the most important node to rush. Castile gets away with not needing West Africa because it can rush Caribbean for that American gold. But also, like other anons said, Asian trade mostly goes through Alexandria before being split between Venice and Genoa. Its not until colonizers set up in Indonesia that you can effectively poach Chinese and Indian wealth through the Cape
You can make an effective siphon out of Cape if you take it early, but given how clueless the original anon is, I doubt he actually has any grasp of the trade system anyway. And Cape works without Indonesia - it's just an extra money source, rather than pre-request. The main use is that having Cape allow to secure monopoly, so idiot AI won't ruin anything for you.
so i'm having a pretty chill game as austria in ironman, about to form the HRE. Then i noticed that i can also form Germany so i was thinking if i could first form Germany and then the HRE
Is it possible? tried googling but havent found a clear answer
Scotland has one of the worst mission trees in the game. That aside, Scotland into Britain is pointless. I would only recommend it if you have some kind of idea in mind that specifically involves Scotland (RP or something) but even then, as soon as you become Britain you are just England, pretty much.
Scotland is like England but you are slowed down by between 20 and 30 years. The economy alone is just suffering for 50 years.
England has the most content in the game and the missions make them so OP you will quit by 1550. Do it for cheevers or some RP idea where the Angevin takes over the planet.
How do I increase province trade power in MEIOU? Investing in commerce? Investing in industry or other goods? I've tried all of the above, but it seems to fluctuate wildly.
How am i supposed to use trade companies? Is there reasons not to annex entire states, should i just be taking the trade centers and ignoring the rest?
>Is there reasons not to annex entire states, should i just be taking the trade centers and ignoring the rest?
Governing cap. If you have it to spare, take full states.
I've been trying to get into EU4 since I got it for free a little while ago but I keep bouncing off of it even though I now understand at least the basic mechanics. But is there seriously a hard limit on how much you can conquer at once? Can the Ottomans seriously not take the Mamluks in a single war even though they did literally that in real life? I really have to win a war, take a quarter of their land, wait for the truce to expire, start another war, take another quarter of their land, wait, etc? That's so boring.
>Can the Ottomans seriously not take the Mamluks in a single war even though they did literally that in real life?
The mod I'm playing does that. Also Great Horde and Novgorod annex in one war as well. It's quite alarming to see Ottoblob triple in size. Perhaps Paradox will add an event or two in the future.
I've been trying to get into EU4 since I got it for free a little while ago but I keep bouncing off of it even though I now understand at least the basic mechanics. But is there seriously a hard limit on how much you can conquer at once? Can the Ottomans seriously not take the Mamluks in a single war even though they did literally that in real life? I really have to win a war, take a quarter of their land, wait for the truce to expire, start another war, take another quarter of their land, wait, etc? That's so boring.
Thinking of doing a run as the Papal State with the goal being taking all of Italy and forming the Kingdom of God. Any tips? I imagine northern Italy is going to get messy, even after they come out of the HRE.
Should I swap to Byz or stay Venice? I kind of want to go with plutocratic right now, but if I decide to swap, that'll become Aristocratic, which is kind of a wasted idea group for Byz.
Original plan was of course to just play Venice, and Byz is getting its own update soon anyway.
>byzantium decision doesn't change your government anyway
This I did not know. Maybe I'll try that, because otherwise I'm not feeling this game. 1480 and France has Milan and Naples PUs already and a Spanish Alliance. They've also rivaled me and I'm excommunicated.
Anyone knows when the next sale will happen? I want to continue developing my mental illness at a reasonable price.
Is anything else that I don't already have even worth grabbing?
I don't deal with that shady shit. If I didn't have the game at all then that would be an easy pirate but I'm too deep into this hole. I don't like mixing illegal shit with my steam account and I don't even know how that works anyway. >inb4 but bro nobody cares nothing will happen!
Sure maybe, I don't like living in constant fear though.
yeah but I already have so many DLCs here, pirating the whole game now would feel like I wasted so much money
Anyway, I'm gonna get the sub and wait for sales.
Rather than getting +200% build time for ships, byz should get +200% build cost. The reason being they don't have access to the wood but if they are willing to pay then they should be able to get wood.
What's a good nation to play as if I want to be emperor? Austria and Bohemia seem like they'd be too easy, while I've played Brandenburg too many times.
Any other German minor particularly good?
Goslar. They have a great idea set, especially the flat imperial authority growth like Mantua. That alone lets you breeze through reforms once you manage to become emperor.
Other than that, forming Bavaria is fun too but I haven't tried a full campaign with them yet.
I've been kicked out of every game for either wooden wall abuse or putting a fort on every tile. You can do interesting things that are fun (especially with the trade system where you can deny everyone else any ducats) but you're going to get banned4lyfe.
The AI is so fricking stupid, I can't get my vassal to colonize because they refuse to build enough boats to explore. All the 100s of ducats I gift them just go into buildings, is there nothing I can do?
Halfway through exploration and just picked expansion. I thought they forbade vassals from picking those ideas which is why I was excited about the prospect of them actually colonizing on their own.
God I love murdering colonizers
Playing as underdogs is fun
Fortressing up all chokes and turning your nation into a fricking meat grinder is amusing
I love when forts play the game for you
Any tips on the Frozen Assets achievement?
I don't normally care for them but the idea of making the White Sea the most valuable place on earth is quite interesting.
My idea is just to conquer into Persia and funnel all the silk and gems north, it will take a while sure but is this not the right way to do it?
I will truly never understand how combat works in this game. I'm in a war where I'm defending a fort when France sends in a stack of 37k to assault it. Despite me having a stack of 35k that is supposedly optimized in composition from what I've read and me being mil tech 14 while France is 13, my defenders start getting absolutely crushed. I quickly reinforce with another 35k stack, doubling the amount of troops I have over France...and they obliterate the 70k troops in a few seconds.
I then go on to utterly lose the war in which my allies total ~200k soldiers to my enemy's ~100k, as all of my allies wander around in stacks of 1k doing nothing while France sends roaming death squad stacks against everyone. The only way I ever win wars is to sit around and keep checking every once in a while to make sure that no major nations will join my enemy, even when I have several major nations on my own side.
Click on the unit during battle and you'll see the enemy rolling 9s every shock phase while you roll 1s.
Useless allies is a given. You can try to get them to attach or assign objectives and hope they do something. The enemies forming a doomstack and wiping your moron allies is a certainty otherwise.
Tech is only one part, there's also >Morale >Discipline >Combat ability bonus >shock and fire damage and defense bonuses >General shock and fire bonuses >Unit pips >Dice rolls
France gets a built in 15% morale which is huge and an extra 5% discipline which isn't as huge but still big if you aren't one of the big quality powerhouses like Sweden or Prussia. If they're winning lots of wars they're also building prestige and tradition to roll high quality generals. If you're fighting against France and you're slacking on mil ideas to make up the difference you're going to be at a bigger disadvantage than normal.
Mil techs are also not equal. There is not much of a difference between 13 and 14, while there are huge differences between 14 and 15, or 15 and 16.
Economic was too good as it was.
People talking like innovative is the best for saving mana on techs when if you take eco first you're going to save more on dev clicks over the entire game.
If you like mana points innovative ideas are mathematically the best in the game if chosen first or second. If you don't care about monarch point generation then yeah, they are trash.
The main issue is that inno makes techs cheaper but that's about it. You can get the same tech savings by taking admin, diplo, and merc ideas and getting stronger ideas overall at the cost of needing to pay more up front. You could even take inno just up to the cost reduction and cancel it once you get the other ideas built out. Inno is better for colonizers though since exploration/expansion will take up two of your first three slots.
I still take inno where it's thematically appropriate but it's less of a must pick than it used to be.
>merc ideas >probably taking anyway
The fantasy thread is that way
7 months ago
Anonymous
>yes don't take the idea group that strengthens mercs and removes all the downsides to using them
The only time you don't benefit from mercs is as Russia, Ottomans, or Ming. Basically any huge quantitymaxxing tag where manpower doesn't matter.
Even if you play tallish in western europe, the cost savings from admin will save a tech or two's worth of points in a few decently developed provinces.
The main issue is that inno makes techs cheaper but that's about it. You can get the same tech savings by taking admin, diplo, and merc ideas and getting stronger ideas overall at the cost of needing to pay more up front. You could even take inno just up to the cost reduction and cancel it once you get the other ideas built out. Inno is better for colonizers though since exploration/expansion will take up two of your first three slots.
I still take inno where it's thematically appropriate but it's less of a must pick than it used to be.
inno is absolute garbage, can't believe people still have discussions about it
I can't tell if you're all moronic or just being contrarian.
if you blob you save more mana with adm
if you play tall you save more mana with infra
inno has literally no place in the game except for the 15% inf ca policy meme stacking
>>if you blob you save more mana with adm >-25% ccr vs at most -2.5% all power cost and dip/mil tech discout
yeah I wonder whats better >>if you play tall you save more mana with infra >-10% dev cost + another -10% dev cost from easier prosperity + even more from cheaper expand infrastructure vs at most -2.5% all power cost and tech discounts
again I wonder whats better
7 months ago
Anonymous
Cool, so you're just pulling stuff out your ass. Take care. See you in the new thread.
7 months ago
Anonymous
hang on I will do some numbers haha
7 months ago
Anonymous
>no argument
I won.
I was even being nice and didn't mention that when you eventually reach 100 Innovativeness, inno ideas fall of even further.
Midwit idea group for midwits.
Everyone forgets the biggest caveat with idea groups. Even *if* Inno results in the most mana savings mathematically for that you give up the benefits from picking something else first. You lose the relations and warscore cost from diplo, as well as diplo cost.
You lose the exploration and colonization advantage of explo/expa
You lose dev and building cost reduction of infra.
You lose CCR from Admin and admin tech cost.
And probably the biggest one, if you're going humanist, by not taking humanist first you're paying more for all subsequent ideas.
Sure it can be argued that you can take Inno second, but let's be honest, if you're advocating for the cost savings of Inno you're taking Inno first, there is no taking inno second unless it's to prepare for cheaper institutions and the siege policy later down the road.
You're forgetting that it's the first 50 years. >exploration and colonization advantage
missing out on those sweet greenland fish provinces going up by 100 a year instead of 110. >dev and building cost reduction of infra
All your devving is done before you can pick an idea group. Devving for the age bonus and devving for renaissance. Also, you'll be building at max 2 churches and maybe 3 marketplaces if you are going for a big power.
If you're coring so much in the first 50 years that it is making you a savings, diplo ideas can't really help you with what's coming. There are geographical exceptions to this such as a nation that can hit different religious groups constantly.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Devving for the age bonus and devving for renaissance. Also, you'll be building at max 2 churches and maybe 3 marketplaces if you are going for a big power.
these are the people arguing for inno lmao
7 months ago
Anonymous
These people are playing an entirely different game than I am. I'm always in a state where I'm up on tech, ideas, and yet have to dev click just to not go over cap on points.
7 months ago
Anonymous
That happens when you do jack-shit all game and just turtle with 5 provinces. 90% of my admin points go to coring new territories, I'm rarely up to date on admin tech. >give land to vassals
Requires some moronic DLC like half the important features in this game
7 months ago
Anonymous
pirate the DLCs it's very easy you'll play the game as it should be.
Which is fricked, instead of DLCs it should be updates but whatever, I'm not paying for it anyway.
As shit as inno may be if your playing a blob game the most important thing you can have in the mid-late game is siege ability. Reason being for the past several patches AI is pussified and refuses to engage an army with a good general that's even 1 tech ahead. Doing a Mongolia-Yuan run rn and it's insane watching the AI sit 90k troops around my 27k stack sieging their capital down and just not engage me. Didn't take inno offensive because I wanted to go funny horse mode but if I did it would speed things up a lot.
>want to do leverage the magnates as Poland >denied the Nieszawa privilege so now I need to go the second path >need LESS THAN 2 privileges for the Szlachta and 50% crown land >I have 2 privileges, Pacta Conventa (can't be removed) and Golden Liberty >to remove Golden Liberty I need to either swap out of Polish Elective Monarchy (can't be done), have 70 absolutism (super late game) or get 90% crown land and wait for 1615 (literally fricking impossible since the Szlachta is exempt from seizing land)
So I'm just fricked forever now or what? It's literally the first mission.
You get crownland from developing, but it would be very painful getting to 90% just from doing just that. Changing governments seems like the most reasonable solution, I don't know how hard they tried to lock you into the elective thing but you can sometimes bypass locked tiers by taking the reforms that turn you into a theocracy/republic.
You get the elective monarchy as soon as you go for the king that gives you the union with Lithuania and when he dies the Pacta Conventa pops up. It's impossible to swap out of it, the game literally says so when you hover over it.
Shit used to be way more simple back in the day. A series of events would pop up around late 1500s/early 1600s where you tell the szlachta to frick off, you fight a civil war and bam, you're a normal country with hereditary monarchy. Now there are all those missions and conditions and shit.
You probably should look up the eu4 wiki page for Poland, there usually are guides on how to do certain things as certain nations. Most are outdated, but some are really useful.
I checked reddit and found a guy who's just as confused as me about this mission tree and the advice is to basically either take the hit from the nieszawa privilege and play normally or refuse it and repeal Golden Liberty as fast as you can before the game slaps Pacta Conventa on you and makes repealing Golden Liberty impossible. If you fail at this, then the only option of progressing this branch of the mission tree is by triggering the struggle for royal power disaster around year 1610 in age of absolutism which forcefully changes your government.
Yeah I think I'm just gonna reload a save. God damn it Paradox.
if you're REALLY desperate the tier 3 mbanza-kongo project allows you revoke any privilege ignoring loyalty and influence
it's similar to the puppet the nobility reform, except it should (probably) work with golden liberty
>he doesn't know about the op great projects
it's all vanilla btw
7 months ago
Anonymous
I have no idea how this works bro. Also how the frick am I supposed to make it to Congo as Poland before 1610 when struggle for royal power fires?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>he doesn't know about the no-cb country into make vassal into use vassal cb to core adjacent provinces and ignore coring distance strategy
bro BRO...
I guess there's nothing you can do but accept your fate, poland isn't hard but paradox are incredibly incompetent and made it so completing poland's missions is almost impossible if you went blind
7 months ago
Anonymous
I just reloaded the save and did it before pacta conventa hit. Had to replay like 70 years but oh well.
if you're REALLY desperate the tier 3 mbanza-kongo project allows you revoke any privilege ignoring loyalty and influence
it's similar to the puppet the nobility reform, except it should (probably) work with golden liberty
>Want to take a small exclave from a distant nation >Start war >Occupy the exclave >Have to then embark on a massive war in the far off mainland of the enemy country because it's the only way to get the war score to take the exclave
Why. Why is there no way to do smaller, focused wars in this game? I don't feel like invading mainland Spain just to get my hands on the part of Crimea they have. It's fricking ridiculous.
because im not playing as poland obviously, but its pointless anyway because pdx fricked up and and forgot to make the brandeburg pu event work with ducal prussia anyway
Is the AI hard coded not to convert reformation centers or something? I forced-converted Switzerland to Catholic, the center is their only province without religious zeal, I tagged over and they would be able to do it in just 8 months, but they don't, what the frick. They don't have humanist ideas either.
ai in general seems to be really lazy with conversion. Most of the province changes the reformation always seem to be from religious rebels or CoR rather than missionaries, and colonies never seem to bother converting the natives
What's the right way to protect your territory when you have a variety of little provinces across the sea from your mainland? I've formed Italy and along the way I ate Venice and Genoa, and now have mainland Italy plus a string of provinces along the Balkans, Greek islands, and Crimea. When a war starts, they all get bum rushed before I can do anything.
Do you keep forces in each of your little exclaves, or do you sail them there in times of war? Because if I try that, I'm usually trying to land in an occupied province through a superior navy which doesn't go well. But having my forces spread out causes issues too.
transports and basic level forts tend to do me if you hate letting any of your territory be occupied. You can ferry armies pretty quickly around the Mediterranean
is the right answer. I played a Lubeck game where I had calais, east frisia and antwerp. Put fort and ramparts on them and AI will go for them every time. Good fun watching France trying to book it out as I drop a 50 stack on them.
If you can put fort and ramparts on a swamp, mountain or hills it is even better. After you have stackwiped them scorch the earth because they will come back.
>Implying EU5 won't just be the launch version of EU4 with slight graphical improvements, necessitating another decade of DLC to slowly work its way back to the amount of content EU4 ended up with
I doubt a single mechanic added to EU4 via DLC will be in base EU5.
There will be some mechanics from EU4 DLCs but they will be mostly stripped away with the promise that future DLCs will do the same ideas but much better. Same thing they claimed with CK3.
God I hope they don't add them. EU5 is gonna run like dogshit with them just like Vicky3 and Stellaris and paradox will keep pretending that a massive slowdown in the mid to late game isn't a problem.
>Pacta Conventa event doesn't fire for like 200 years >had to make it fire through the console to make the struggle for royal power crisis start ticking in order to remove golden liberty
I don't know if this is just another Paradox moment or if I really were this lucky to not get a single ruler with a stat of lower than 2 in the span of 200 years.
I can't imagine playing this shit in ironman.
>Be Venice >Want to take out Austria but they're too strong >Build alliances >Notice that the Franco-Ottoman alliance is going to war against Austria-Hungary >Bavaria and some HRE minors are in a separate war with Austria-Hungary >Join in by declaring war with my allies Great Britain, Russia, and the Commonwealth >Watch all of Europe just fricking gangrape Austria and Hungary >Wars end >Austria and Hungary no longer exist >I have a big chunk of their territory
Most satisfying thing I've seen happen in EU4 in a while. I always try to time wars like that, but to get so many major countries dog piling one country at once like that is rare in my experience. I've never played a game where Austria-Hungary is just gone. I feel like I have to see it through to the endgame just to see how it turns out now.
The game at this point gives you so any inno boost event on its own I really don't see the point in wasting an idea slot on it . Hell last time I played UK I had about 100 innovative by 1570s without even trying just from going Anglican and following the tree
sow discontent is such a broken bs mechanic. when will they be removing it? or do the devs actually think a random modifier than increases rebels with no real way to counter it is a fun mechanic?
>kill ottos as byz >all take the balkans >mamluks frick the ottos further and take all southern turkey + the three exact aegean provinces I needed to get permaclaims on anatolia >I need to rush finishing the ottos and taking everything I can having only manually claimed 3 provinces >mamluks get a 70k army and 5 alliances in africa
Time to call in the winged hussars
Is MEIOU the Mental Omega of ewwIV?
Can't stand meiou, whole mod is like someone took the cookie clicker estate mechanics and made that the whole game. Id rather just play vanilla at that point plus it runs like shit.
Considering an ambitious campaign.
>start as Austria
>expand the HRE out to original Roman Borders, far into North Africa and the Middle East
>decentralized reforms
>create HRE-ified Rome.
How does this sound? It'll be one hell of a challenge, playing Austria is already a cat-herding contest as it is.
Also, I'd have to make a bunch of puppet states and release them because there aren't enough releasables. Rough one.
I did something like this a long time ago with Austria. Just have a plan for who gets what. For me Genoa got Africa, Knights got Holy Land, etc. Once HRE princes no longer take up a diplo slot it's easy going. In terms of Europe I never went into Iberia but had good fun balkanizing France.
Post pictures once you've done it.
>Post pictures once you've done it.
I will do so.
Only Europeans can join the HRE.
frick off pdx im not paying $500 for your ms paint 3.0 game
>inb4 hurr durr you can play for $5 a month
no.
I got the whole thing for 20 bucks on humble bundle. Get on my level discountlet.
HEY, ME TOO!
That was a really good sale.
I got the whole thing on cs.rin.ru for 0$. How about you get on mine level, huh?
>he has to manually install each and every mod and be a freeloading Black person
no thanks I'm white
>He considers a copy-paste from folder A to B to be too much work to bother
Is this the famous Steam brain-rot? Where people below 30 are less capable with using computers than the freshly minted retirees?
>he will have to repeat that exact procedure every update, and hope that his favorite Russian mod pirate site has updated all of his mods, or that Steamworkshop downloader doesn't bug out like it does 90 times out of ten
>paying for things is a goyim thing
Jesus Christ, what sort of level of cultism do you have to be to not see anything wrong mods behind a paywall.
When I want to play a mod for Victoria 2 I just go on moddb and download the mod. When I want to play an EU4 mod I have to make a paradox forum account, connect it with my steam account to show them that I've bought the game and only then can I download.
Why can't EWW4 modders just upload their mods to moddb or nexus?
Zoomers don't know how to use computers, its that simple
This is why everyone says buy the base game because it's like 5 bucks and pirate the dlc.
>what sort of level of cultism do you have to be to not see anything wrong mods behind a paywall.
I do see a lot of things wrong with it, but I don't work in Paradox and I can't do anything about it so rather than be a moaning Black person I'll just buy the whole thing for cheap and enjoy hassle-free modding. Go find someone else to be mad at.
All mods are on skymods
I use GoG Eu4 with a cracked launcher.
The base game was given for free literally a dozen times. And I'm not snide, just pointing out. Last time was I think something like May?
Imagine being so fricking clueless, you just start saying random nonsense in the dire hope it will somehow stick.
You really have no clue how modding works, don't you?
>moron doesn't know that steam-exclusive mods have to be downloaded through skymods or steamworkshopdownloader
>moron doesn't know that mods on skymods frequently go outdated and have to be manually requested to be updated by the site owner
>moron doesn't know that mods from steamworkshopdownloader are not packaged with the .mod files needed to actually make the game recognize the mods, necessitating the player to manually create the .mod file themselves for potentially dozens of mods
>moron calls anyone clueless when he's clearly a Bethesda drone who thinks every game is as simple as Skyrim to mod
you were probably in grade school back when I had to manually install 70 mods for a pirated copy of Stellaris every single update, zoomie. Don't even bother (you)ing me with some moronic seethe instead of a proper retort.
>a pirated copy of Stellaris every single update
your mistake was updating the game
I just pirate games and play them without any updates forever
that's nice and all but sometimes updates fix pressing issues. I remember the early days of Stellaris when one outpost could claim multiple systems and enemy could somehow steal systems from you without starting war.
This is a good point, I don't think steam workshop lets you download old versions of mods so if you ever rollback an update you'll have to use skymods to get archived versions.
>Talks about Stellaris as some distant past
>Calls anyone a zoomer
>While being clearly incompetent with modding and projecting how hard it is to do on your own
Like the other anon said, why would you CONSTANTLY update the game, other than suffering from steam brain-rot and thus it being done automatically for you? Because I'm pretty certain I was swapping floppies around the time your parents were still in high school.
>moron doesn't deny not knowing how modding modern paradox games work and just deflect to "why do you update so often?"
hmm
>no thanks I'm a goyslopper
ftfy
>t.indian Hands wrote that
Or
>t.Wetback hands wrote that
What important is that you will never be white CARLOS RANJEET.
Flick is a tard
>Has Circassian woman swanning over a Russoid
There are times when I wonder if Flick is getting worse and worse at trolling, or has ever-worsening propaganda brain-rot.
>women never fell in love with their conquerors, they are all patriots
>conquerors
That isn't the word I would use for what Russians did in Circassia or with Circassians. But given your post was made during Amerimutt hours, at least your ignorance is somewhat justified
I'm not caught up on Russian-Caucasian politics but I do remember reading about a Russian mercenary officer in the late 19th-early 20th century who despised Circassians so much he would keep a collection of heads of Circassians he had killed under his bed to help him sleep
They wiped out anywhere between 800k to 1.5 million people in an active, deliberate way. It's not "despise", it's one of the better documented genocides ever conducted.
And they did it for a completely useless piece of land that, once so severely depopulated, became even less useful.
It's pretty crazy how everyone (even buddhists) start genociding muslims for no reason haha
And yet China keeps denying that they're committing a holocaust there.
It's not holocaust. The chinks are putting the Uighurs in camps to be assimilated into chinkdom. A holocaust would be if they gas the Uighurs in rooms with wooden doors instead.
>Le education camp copium
t. holocaust denier
You do know you just labelled yourself as a Holocaust denier, right, newbie?
>t. newbie
deserved for being mohamedans
When did they convert, they start as orthodox in game
Vast majority of Circassians were members of both the Armenian Apostolic Church and just Orthodox. The ones that SURVIVED were Muslims, because they could just run off to the Ottomans without any major fears.
You are wrong. However you should take your sources for this information to your local university history department and make sure they sign something that will say you are partially credited or fully credited for this discovery.
>Starting in 1717, Circassians began to convert en masse to Islam. This was the product of an effort launched by the Muslim Ottoman Empire to expand its influence in the Caucasus Mountains. The predominant branch of Islam among the Circassians is Sunni Islam, which most of its modern-day population of five million practice
During the """genocide""" the circassians were offered the chance to convert and those that did were not killed.
Your "source" says that in the 1700's, Circassians began to convert en masse. It doesn't actually say if it became a majority of the population
>Circassian genocide in triple quotes
Come on, Ivan, you can better than that.
">Has Circassian woman swanning over a Russoid", says increasingly nervous Circassian man for the 20th time
This picture is years old, Anon. Calm down.
>Flick's brain-rot wasn't set 5 years ago
Optimist, I see
>Circassian
i literally don't even know what that is you stupid fricking homosexual lol holy frickin shit lol poor eurogays are so fricking annoying
"a circsassian ruthenoid caucagolian would never submit to a slavgerm anglod balton, if you look at the spear battle of 1235"
shut the frick up you poor peasant old world country homosexuals lol holy shit, get off the internet, you shouldnt even be allowed to have the internet, the internet was made by white upper middle class americans, for white upper middle class americans. your people could not invent a computer. your people could not build an airplane. if the plug got pulled between us (real humans) and your people, you couldnt even produce a single automobile. so shut the frick up, you arent real
no one gives a frick about your $2000 gdp per capita, no civilization, no modernity, no military, no progress, pseudo country. just go away
that also goes for russians too by the way, im not picking on you got buttmad about russians. russians are also pseudo people too
touch grass you terminally online amerishart
What are you gonna do, cast a gypsy curse? Talk to the imam about it? Do a gay little kicking dance? Get alcohol poisoning at me? Lol
first, if you sell your women as slaves, they might end up anywhere.
second, don't get anyone mad enough to assign a German on COIN
> Russian generals such as Grigory Zass
> *looks closer
> Georg Otto Ewald Freiherr von Saß
every time
HOT TAKE INBOUND
Swap the effects of 'at peace' and 'centralization effort' for autonomy, then give 'at peace a further -.02 debuff. Centralizing your country should be a continuous struggle throughout the game, with big rewards (more money and manpower) for being able to carry through with it for a long time. That was like THE problem for European states during the game's time. Passive autonomy reduction should be very very low, only to help keep stragglers at a safe minimum of behindness.
HOT TAKE OVER
Are you ok?
No, I've wasted my life on a troony homosexual third-world Black person incel website called "Ganker".
FRICKING VOTE FOR ME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>1514
>teutons still live
>not Prussia
My Black person what are you doing?
Taking it slow.
if they vote for you you are going to lose the empire in 1 or 2 years anyway when you flip protestant
Yeah I realized that I was way too small at the time to handle it so I converted to dump the emperorship.
Maybe I'll do it later.
Why the frick does the sardinian tree not give claims on central italy states, not even Rome.
You get permaclaims on occitan and gascon culture provinces but not on Rome not even when you own the rest of Italy
Stay on your island Nephilim. The time of the giants is passed it's homosexual SAPIENS now.
Maybe it's trying to get you to go into Savoy territory? In either case just make your own claims in Carthage.
You were banned over posting gore, which is true, and not about your post.
Next time, post the same shit without the gore
You're an idiot if you don't think jannies are selective with their bans. And they would have banned me whether I posted gore or not, they just would have used some other nebulous rule like "offtopic" or "complaining about Ganker".
Anon, ever since new, pro-bot policies came to life last year, I've got banned on /tg/ more times, that I've been banned in total since '09.
That doesn't change the fact that you've posted gore on blue board and throw a tantrum over punishment for that. Your political views and ideas have nothing to do with any of it. It's just wrong image for wrong board.
Hence: drop the image and you will be fine. You might as well just use any of the billion clips of Russian tanks being turned into turret catapults with AT weapons, those are fine game due to being "blue".
>That doesn't change the fact that you've posted gore on blue board and throw a tantrum over punishment for that.
I think I got a 2-3 day ban from that exact same thread, you do get bans from lasism and for ukra-russo off-topic posting both here on /tg/, even if you just call someone a Black person in an off-topic post chain.
But you are right about how fricking easily you get warned or banned on /tg/ now compared to the early days, never been banned before this year, and now I have gotten 2-3 warnings and bans over there.
/tg/ is the proof that men's hobbies should stay as men's hobbies.
I hate w*men so much it's unreal.
>w*men
have a nice day subhuman commie, your constant seething is completely off-topic regardless whatever braindead leftist delusion you use to justify it.
>try byzantium run
>do everything normally
>build army and alliances
>wait for ottos to declare on some anatolian minor
>?
>they declare on me instead
>restart
>it happens again
Over
redhawk's guide is better for the current patch
I was following his guide lmao
I already had another 1.35 byz run a while ago and the ottos behaved exactly as in the video, for some reason they feel like attacking me first today
>wait until Ottomans build a massive army
>declare war and occupy all their money provinces
>just avoid battles and let them go bankrupt
I'm not fighting pedos
>turks beeline for murmansk while I take out goldmines and their capital
that's one way to save on manpower costs idiot AI
Maybe stop being a fricking commie, you tard. Ever thought of that? Maybe then you'd stop getting banned for commie-shit.
I've gotten myself in the most cancerous position. I'm playing Prussia, Austria hates me, Lithuania and Poland are separate but allied, France is allied to both Lithuania and Spain.
So now it's just a shit sandwich. I'm just gonna have to chew through HRE princes until I have some weight to throw around. Lithuania has 40k, Poland has 40k, France has 100k, Spain has another 100k.
This is a nightmare.
bro just do germany by the 1500s just like in the video ez pz end game tag like that
Your best option is Denmark and Bongs in that order. Denmark is a good ally but dogshit to fight against.
What about Bohemia as well or have you started taking their shit?
Bohemia got HAPSBURGED in the first few decades. They got involved in a war with Hungary, it was complicated, and lots their entire army of 25k. Then Austria pounced. Now Austria has Bohemia, Silesia, and some stuff in southern Germany as well.
I think I'm going to ally England and hope for the best. France is just so huge right now, it's insane. Pray for me.
What about Venice, Milan, Tuscany? They come in after Denmark and Bongs because Venice is going to drag you into turk wars but they are a good counter (distraction) to Austria.
You are probably playing on VH. Hard is enough unless you are a masochist.
>playing Yuan
>randomly have discovery of Australia spread to me
>decide to take exploration ideas so I can have a cool Mongol Australia
>Portugal shows up out of nowhere and drops 4 colonies before my first one is fully established
>"ok maybe I'll go for California instead"
>all of Western North America colonized already by Spain and England for some reason all the way up to Cascadia
The year was 1578. I started playing EU4 shortly before the release of Leviathan. Has it always been like this? Does the community not take issue with the state of colonization?
It wasn't always like this. I don't remember when it tilted over, but colonization is way too fast and there are way too many native nations now. I think that happened around the time of Leviathan. I've seen people still complaining, but it doesn't seem like the biggest issue to them, unfortunately.
>I started playing EU4 shortly before the release of Leviathan
Genuine condolences.
Depending on who you ask, the final DLC was either Mandate of Heaven or Third Rome. Everything after those is a mixed bag, and everything after Dharma was a shitshow (Dharma included).
And you've started up when the game was at its lowest low, which absolutely fricked whatever was still playable in the game, colonisation included.
Nobody sane plays past Rule Britannia, and that one is only "up" because bunch of good mods requires patch that came with it.
So playing on older versions is more fun? If so, which one?
Like I've said, ymmv, but anything past patch 1.24.1 is actively hurting your game. It really started to rot with 1.25 mission rework into the current trees, mindlessly aping GoY$ design.
>Does the community not take issue with the state of colonization?
Declare a colonial war.
1- The state of colonization is the reason it's somewhat fun to play colonizers, you can paint the map somewhat quickly rather than reach 1812 with large strips of land uncolonized.
2- Players are fine with it because nobody knows the history of pre-19th colonization, while everybody want themselve over the 30 years wars and whatnot.
Speak for yourself I'm not fine with it, it's made playing any non major as a colonizer shit and I'm on the brink of just modding all settler bonuses in half and removing half the tribes in the game
Do eet
There's a guy who posts solutions to your problems in every thread since at least January and they work. There's also another guy who posts the math on Inno in every thread but people still keep posting this reddit tier nonsense that Inno is not as good as 2 or 3 idea groups combined.
Either
>look through the archives
>put up with it
>go cry on paradox plaza
Also Ottomans has 250k how does that even happen? It's impossibly large.
How do we feel about this war? Am I ready? Me and Austria are on same mil tech. I have full quality ideas, he has full defensive ideas. I could wait longer and maybe get an alliance with France, maybe.
This is a big deal so I should probably take it slow, not just jump into it headlong.
Post the league war mapmode
And it's just my luck that England stayed catholic this game. Everything is against me.
And so it begins.
Thats an easy win dude. Just take out princes one at a time and keep an eye on when Russia overruns Lithuania. Then its just everyone vs Austria (and England, who will do nothing). You've already won
I KNOW RIGHT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH THANK YOU FRANCE!
The strat is to snipe princes while Russia bops Lithuania? I was going to beeline for Austria and use my 3 star general (5 fire 4 shock) to whack him good, which I thought would give us a decisive advantage. I'm afraid that if I try sieging down princes he'll go straight for my capital and I won't be able to stop him. I'll be relying on the AI to defend my land for me.
Idk, I'm not a general. We'll see how it goes.
The problem with bee lining the Emperor is that every country has a -50 "Religious War" modifier to peaceing out and Religious Domination is 50% WS. Plus, loads of little princes really add up. I find it more reliable in any large war to focus nations one at a time before isolating the largest nation
>I was going to beeline for Austria
Don't.
You want defeat in detail. Princes are pathetically weak on their own, and you should take them out first, for the simple reason that you can gobble them all down and, more importantly, won't have to bother with them sending 20 different stacks all over Europe. Instead, you will have 1-2 Austrian stacks to deal with, which can be stalled over a single siege, while you take out one price after another.
Always, and I mean ALWAYS focus on taking out small fries first. This still allows you to push victory, forces AI to "reconquer" lost land (rather than attack your territory) and decreases the number of participants. By the end of the war, you have either a very easy annexation or just as easy vassal. Hell, they might want to bail out of the war on their own, which is still a good thing.
Besides, when you are sieging something, it works like a light source for moths - everything will come to you, but in small, useless stacks, that you will be just mauling to death before further reinforcements arrive. EU4 also changed morale mechanics (and so did 3), so you don't have to be afraid of the infamous EU2 meatgrinder, where sending 1 k of troops in synced way, so new arrival reaches the province every other day kept your morale super-high, forcing enemy to just collapse eventually.
I'm actually gonna fricking cum
Well done m8.
Check these idiots out. It's only going to get better once I'm at 100% cav ratio.
How do you play this shit on a 1440p monitor? With a magnifying glass?
I don't. I'm a broke college student. I can't afford that kind of luxury.
ah zoomie cap fr fr?
i use a resolution mod (ironman compatible)
i assume that what triggered your so1 rage is the OP picture of a kievan rus character?
I've theory crafted before that the most BS military strat is Orthodox Prussia. Would it be a fun campaign and what patch should I do it in?
do it with at least Lions of the North. You get the branching mission tree and you can choose the non HRE conquest path that takes you east.
>open the game for the first time
>play for a while as cyprus
>the year is 1520
>finally land in western africa
>discover that all local nations already have cavalry and one has artillery
>mfw
Dunzo
some nice Silesian provinces there
silesians are hard workers in fertile lands so this is a nice result
polish economy relies on silesia (which was gifted to them for free) lmao
>for free
If you exclude like half of prewar Poland then yeah it was for free. Silesia is kind of a shithole these days.
Starting a new England/GB game. I played my first one to the 1580s and it went pretty well but I made some major mistakes that hampered me in the later game like wasting a ton of ADM coring Ireland before getting the PU event, among other things. I'm pretty decent on handling European affairs as Britain but there's other stuff that confused me.
Any advice for colonization like the order I should do it in? I'm thinking of trying to rush for the Cape ASAP so I can get started on creating the Raj early and also I got cucked by my ally Portugal last time so I don't want to repeat that. Also what should I do for the parliamentary debates? I know some of them are really overpowered but it would be nice to know when to use the better ones.
>I'm thinking of trying to rush for the Cape ASAP
check out the mission if you choose the colonisation path you get cape town for free with a stock exchange.
I haven't played in a long time, but what the frick is this mission tree garbage and why the frick do they all end up giving you free claims on the entire content?
PDX saw how well HoI4 focus trees can be monetized by doing minimal work and packaging 3 or so focus trees per DLCs and thus added mission trees to EU4 to milk more DLCs instead of actually improving the game and adding new game mechanics. At least that's my guess.
No need to be upset my friend, you can ignore it entirely.
Yeah it was really fun just repeating the same garbage missions over and over again, really good gameplay.
>Can have missions tied to his current, actual situation, for a bonus that helps with said situation
>Or a pre-definied line that often requires to do completely moronic thing to gain a bonus into useless shit
Gee, what a great idea!
EU2 had the best missions. Randomly generates stuff with varied complexity and point pay-off. EU3 introducing bonuses for finishing missions was in the long run a mistake.
>completely moronic thing
You just outed yourself as a moron.
>playing Merv in Ante Bellum
>fighting my first war against the Shapurids
>my 2 siege pip general fails nine consecutive 49% siege ticks in a row
>Shapurids succeed on a 28% and come back and lift the siege
>I lose the war because of this
Talk me off the ledge anons.
Just assault the fort, if you've gone through that many ticks it should barely have anyone left in it
ledge makes your corpse very messy. No open casket funeral. Rope self instead.
>ottomans has 330k in 1560
I guess the game is over then lmao. Whatever.
>open console command
>revolt 151 revolt 151 revolt 151 revolt 151 revolt 151 revolt 151 revolt 151 revolt 151 revolt 151 revolt 151 revolt 151 revolt 151
problem solved.
The current mission trees really do railroad the game, which normalgays love, and it ruins the sandbox feeling of the game.
Is there some kind of trick for getting meiou to not run like shit and crashing?
Would also like tips for playing france
>to not run like shit
Too many changing variables in each province to not choke out the lone CPU core that ew4 uses I guess? So no tricks here
>crashing
Personally I only ever crash if I click too much on the yearly processing tick
Disable water in option file. Works in all PDX games with a map. No clue about the crashing part though.
I love my forts
I love min-maxing defenses
I love my forts taking 2 months to advance a single tick
I love my forts killing 1/4 of the enemy total army all by themselves
I love ez wins on my fort provinces
Did I mention I love forts? Because I love forts.
>47k men can't siege a fort
imagine the sheer number of secret passages those guys must have
I wish you could put field armies into forts. Not "refill garrison", but if you had 50k men in a field army, you should be able to shove them in there Przemyśl style. The Austrians had 138,000 men in that fort
kek I did not even notice the garrison of 17k
You already have armies in there
That just gets to the point that garrisons are conjured out of thin air. You occupy a castle and it slowly fills to 3k men from...? I guess the locals are just that eager to help you fight their government. Realistically, you should be able to refill garrison from day 1 and this should be the ONLY way occupied garrisons refill. That would make forts totally critical to warfare and would slow things down in the early game.
But of course this will never happen
I'm not a BYZgay but it'd be cool if provinces also flipped to Greek. Though this also gets to the issue of provinces being monolingual and monoreligious.
Cringe. In Imperial Russia the conscripts are the forts.
That is true comrade, but think it this way, why throw away into an open field meat grinder until they pour into a single fort and then either let them bleed themselves out, or attack them on the fort for an easy, quick victory.
This strategy worked well against the combined forced of the Ottomans and the Frenchfries.
It just makes the game that much easy.
If you blow the horn, the walls shall fall.
(innovative, divine, espionage, offensive)
So, basically, it's over for Byzzie bros?
As stated in last thread, certain devs at paradox hate Byzantium.
I'm not a Rome lover but out of all the fantasy tags in the game (Novgorod, Mamlukes, Teutonic Order, Ming, etc), Byzantium is the one that seems to get shit on the most.
This is going to be a b***h to figure out how to get passed this.
>fort assault ability -75%
Harsh but presumably you can still just hire a frickload of mercs and siege down Gelibolu the old fashioned way.
>shipbuilding time 200%
Blocking the strait on your own will be basically impossible but you can still take advantage of other nations fleets. Albania and the Knights are easy to bring into an offensive war since they have cores on Otto at the start, and if you attack Epirus for your core early on you can vassalize them and benefit from their small fleet as well
what do they even give in return for all this? Byzzie better be Prussia-tier after all the hassle to get it started now.
claims on anatolia
Should be cores, honestly. Surviving the first few decades should come with big profits, meaning free cores on Anatolia.
that's gay. Claims are absolutely useless. I always just released some Anatolian minors to core the whole thing for me then annex them.
What is the historical rationale for this? Low army morale makes sense because people would have seen the writing on the wall and felt they were fighting for a lost cause, but why would shipbuilding time be so much longer when they still had their ports? Why would they become so bad at assaulting forts?
Yeah, historically blocking the strait and assaulting the Gallipoli fort is the easy meta strat for Byz players. Teaching the Ottoman AI to control the strait would be hard, kneecapping the player with a modifier is easy.
>but why would shipbuilding time be so much longer when they still had their ports
Because building ships requires fricking timber.
Guess what you don't have an easy access to as a city state literally surrounded by your enemy preparing to rape your ass
As for forts - no idea, probably "if morale bad, then storming forts for almost guaranteed death badder"
>Low army morale makes sense because people would have seen the writing on the wall and felt they were fighting for a lost cause
>Because building ships requires fricking timber.
These two make sense. They should also apply to any tag that has one province or has been reduced to 2 or 3 provinces. Massive morale loss for the rest of the game and increased ship building time lmao.
I'd be on board with that if they did it consistently. Also, for all the disadvantages Byzantium has at the start, I actually think they should buff Constantinople's fort level. If they had one advantage, it was that those walls were leaps and bounds above what anyone else in the world had at that point in time. If we're going to get super detailed in giving historical disadvantages, we should also get the historical advantages, few as they may be for Byzantium.
>I'd be on board with that if they did it consistently.
It's too much work for paradox no doubt. It would probably have to be a disaster and then a scroll click decision thing you can select if you get out of it. Now that I mention this the Teutonic Disaster Rise of the Prussian Confederacy as a timed disaster would probably be more palatable.
I think every other "doomed" state (Novgorod, QQ, Mamlukes, Granada, Knights, Irish Petty Kings, etc) should be getting something to show they are fantasy tags.
>If they had one advantage, it was that those walls were leaps and bounds above what anyone else in the world had at that point in time
It really wasn't. And I blame it squarely on PDX that people started to jerk off to Constantinople's fortifications. They were bog standard of that era, their main feature is that they were old, rather than erected in past 50 or so years.
Anon "THE WALLS OF CONSTANTINOPLE" were a thing as far back as AoE2
How do we feel about the Georgia and Armenia reworks they showed off today?
Can I get the cliffnotes on them senpai?
>georgia can now become byzantium by conquering its former territory
>or get PU wargoals on Russia, alternatively
>armenia can now form super armenia with +1 to each dev in every province you convert to armenian culture
Georgia is now the Third Rome
Armenia gets boni for genociding people
Oh also the black and white sheepies too.
how come they haven't introduced a busted mechanic like "same religion provinces don't give you overextension"?
Prussianon back again, I was complaining about how big the ottomans were getting earlier but I have a lucky break now. They took way too much land out of Austria in one war and now half of Europe has enough AE malice to enter a coalition. We'll see if enough countries join to crack them open.
Orange = enough AE to join a coalition
Red = already in coalition
green bars = truce, so can't join a coalition
aren't your estates influences a little too high?
I don't think so. I start getting anxious when they're 80% plus.
i'm saying because the age of absolutism is just around the corner, unless you're not planning on playing past 1600
I've only been past 1600 once before and it was a long long time ago. I'm not really sure what absolutism is or what it does or why estates being high influence is a bad thing in the AoA.
>protestant Prussia
disgusting. Stay catholic as Prussia, become guardian of the faith, then fight the Ottoman whenever they try to invade a Cath country. Usually any Catholic country the Otto tries to invade will be allied to Austria, so already you have Prussia+Austria+an ally country come bearing down on early game Ottoman at once.
>Stay catholic as Prussia, become guardian of the faith, then fight the Ottoman
I sense some really weird border shape
you'd be correct. The Ottomans never stood a chance with both Prussia and Austria coming down on them. The flipside of this is that instead of a green blob I have a white blob to deal with the entire game.
... that's where you flip Protestant and go medieval on Austria
>flip to protestant
>in 1770 after I've already eradicated Luther's heretical bullshit from northern Europe
nah. I also went medieval on Austria already. Poland and Wallachia used to be white on the map too.
>He released Poland
>And gave them Silesia, Lusitia and half of Saxony
You can't be serious
I'm playing a vassal swamp game. Poland, Wallachia, Sweden, England and Novgorod are all my vassals on that map.
How do we feel about this war?
Yeah war it, you will win
ok anons sorry I'm really tense right now because it's on ironman, I don't want to frick up really bad and get mad.
Idk, I'm at max army limit right now. I'm not very good at this game yet.
>ok anons sorry I'm really tense right now because it's on ironman
Dude calm down, it's just a videogame, learn to relax a little bit, being this nerveous and on edge is not good both for your health nor your gameplay
In time you will learn to keep cool even in Ironman
We can give you some tips on how to play better, if you want.
Its okay dude, its only a game lol.
As for your army limit, are you at 0% autonomy everywhere? If you are, you could build regimental camps. Though those are only worth it if you've maxxed out on money producing buildings
I feel like you stress too much. Have some faith in yourself. Also, why is your army so small? I feel like with that land you should be closer to 70-80 FL
easy win
E-israelite Bore
Soon
What mod is that
Meiou and Taxes
bloat and taxes
Seeing a first world power Austria getting this mercilessly torn appart brings me so much joy.
Frick the HRE.
Luv me forts.
Luv Russian winter.
Luv defensive stance.
Luv ramparts
Luv defensive oriented reforms.
Luv Edict of Resistance.
Luv Attrition stacking.
Luv Garrison Size stacking.
Luv Defensiveness stacking.
Simple as.
Bragging to AI attrition rates is like bragging about painting the map frog-blue - of course the AI is going to have staggering attrition rates, because it's the fricking AI
forts too powerful. Basically turn the game into WW1 a century ahead of time. Armies should be able to bypass forts at the cost of massive attrition and combat malus AKA how forts work in real life instead of magically stopping people from going through.
just assault forts bro
Works only in the early-mid game.
WRONG
nay thee
Even if it did by the time you hit the late game your army composition should be an entire back row of cannons so you can easily just get the maximum siege bonus in every siege just by a little stack micro.
>forts too powerful.
>Meanwhile me with cannons and press cannon button to cast cannon spell and break wall
Forts are only strong before you get cannons. Once you get cannons they're more of a speed bump.
Aaaaaaaaaand there it is, the only reason why I am playing this nation.
The 1 million reserve achievement, was that hard but wasnt that easy, merely required Quantity + Religious + all Orthodox provinces + Stack the everloving shit outta of Moscow manpower + Spam Barracks/Soldier's Households almost everywhere, which funny enough this last thing was harder to do than the rest.
So funny see taking 50k casualties in a single fight and then recovering that same number 5 months later.
at least get the one where you have to consecrate rome since you're plating orthodox
Alright, I dont have a navy and I dont think I will have enough time in this run to actually capture and consecreate Rome's state but I will try nonetheless.
When are they buffing innovative ideas?
Innovative is only useful if it is one of the first two ideas picked, anytime after that you are wasting wizard points.
I think innovative would be better if the tech cost reduction was removed and everything else about it would be buffed. As it is the cost reduction is most of the reason to pick it and the rest is cheaper institutions. With no tech cost and better bonuses overall it would shift from you must pick this first to you can pick this mid game to make institutions cheaper as you blob out among other relevant benefits for an expanding mid game country.
Nvm it was fairly easy, just had to skullfrick the Pope, Castile and Venice
Should I go a diplo idea or a mil idea? I already have offensive and religious.
Diplomatic ideas for less ae against arabs.
so ive found out the mods that let me put technological penalties on certain regions or cultures so i could make it more historically accurate, now is there a way to remove cavalry from the savage nations that never domesticated the horse?
kek which mods are they?
perhaps african cavalier is an ostrich rider
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1881890980
and
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=840179139
the second one does the same as the first one in a way but its code is much easier for me to figure out (they need fixing tho, some stuff is broken like colonialism spreads faster than renaissance or even feudalism sometimes).
last eu4 dev diary made me realize the pure, seething hatred paradox has for ERE
>"byzantinophiles"
>"the interest in this country is uncanny"
>entire update is nerfs
>very specific penalties aimed at destroying every single viable byz strat
>it's a muslim dlc, all other muslim countries just got buffs and cool content
no doubt because any ERE campaign is inherently hostile to the turks, making it a no-no
it has also taken them a suspiciously long amount of time to give ERE any content in ck3, even though in ck2 "legacy of rome" was among the first things they released, but they still ensured muslims and le vikings were playable from the very beginning
what vexes me is that Byzantine still doesn't start with Renaissance already unlocked. The real Renaissance was caused by Byzantine refugees flocking to Venice and bringing Classical ideas back to the west. Somehow the motherfrickers responsible for spreading it to everyone irl don't start with it in this turk-loving game.
Technically the Arab nations and Turks should get it as well. The Muslim learning that this game hammers so hard was just scholars using classical ideas. Also most of them were burned alive or fled as exiles for being heretics because application of the scientific method is sorcery and against their religion.
>what vexes me is that Byzantine still doesn't start with Renaissance already unlocked. The real Renaissance was caused by Byzantine refugees flocking to Venice and bringing Classical ideas back to the wes
You stated the reason yourself, but are apparently too dumb to figure it out.
As expected from a Byzboob
>Renaissance is just the re-adoption of classical ideas
>somehow the people who never lost them don't benefit from them at the start of the game
frick off Turk.
This is actually a problem I have with most Byzantium mods, they either have Byzantium reform into English style Parlimentary Monarchy or just continue like it always has. Byzantium in it's last century was profounded introspective, if some miracle (or perhaps more cynically a European alliance) delivered them at the last second, the Renissance Era Byzantium would be a different beast to the past, a wierd combination of Latin and Eastern views
The Ottoman Empire sort of did this for a time, but no one was ever able to fully get over they were Muslim
Let me walk you through your own post, so you can figure out your own moronation. I will use Caps for the important bits
>Renaissance is just the RE-adoption of classical ideas
>somehow THE PEOPLE WHO NEVER LOST THEM don't benefit from them at the start of the game
Also: if you are stupid enough to consider "Renaissance = simply access to Greek translations of Latin classics", and ignore the ENTIRE FRICKING ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL BUILD UP TO IT, you might be genuinely moronic.
But I guess your stupidity makes me a Turk.
I'm sure that makes sense in your head, Turk.
Also also
>Byzantines
>Separation of power
>Republican bent
>Humanism
>Free science
>Hell, just fricking universities
Yeah... no.
Yep
Yep
They actually focused on this a little in their last century, it is where the idea of capitulating to the Pope in that Union outside of desperation came from
Again they tried this but did not have the money
Again they also tried this but did not have the money
Robbed of all their pride, the Byzantines finally changed in their last century but it was too late to actually do anything, a tale as old as time for Empires
You getting a 666 in your post invalidates it. You ally of satan.
Maybe, just maybe, because Byzboobing is a thing all the way back to EU2 (EU1 didn't have the problem, as it starts without them) and people jerking off to the "Bring back Byzantines back from the brink" concept get tiresome after 20 years
>get tiresome after 20 years
why would it matter?
almost nobody is left from 20 years ago, why would latisha care or even know how the eu2 community was?
>why would it matter?
Imagine being nagged for the rest of your life about some shit you did while still in the college.
Oh, right, you can't even grasp such perspective, as you aren't even 20 to begin with, not to mention spending 20 years being nagged
That's precisely why they are so angry about it: there is nobody from the original team left, and yet they have to react to meme that not only is stale by itself, but never appealed to them in the first place. This is a standard situation with any long-running project that simply gets inherited by new creators over the decades. It's the same hate boner Star Trek writers have to Trek itself - they didn't even want to do it, but got stuck with it and the fandom it brings, so they are lashing out
>b-but doesn't make sense
Those people are doing their JOBS. They are paid for it. There is nowhere in the contract they have to enjoy it or even supposed to enjoy it
>maybe, just maybe
>imagine
>oh right
why can't americans communicate like normal people? when they try to be snarky and ironic it is beyond embarrassing
has the corn syrup and marvel movies fried your brains into this state of permanent passive aggression?
I'm Czech.
But I learned English from American movies and Japanese (sic!) games, so go fricking figure.
then it's even more embarrassing
the notion is bullshit, just admit they hate ERE because of the abduls they have in the team and the dicksucking rituals they need to perform for them
>No, the real, tangible reason doesn't count
>Instead, it's idpol
Let me ask you this simple question:
Who makes a better customer: an entire nation, already constituting of nearly 15% of your entire playerbase, OR bunch of memers that don't even make 1%?
But I guess a corporation present on stock market doesn't care about raw fricking profit, it just wants to do feels-good shit for the sake of it.
>Who makes a better customer: an entire nation, already constituting of nearly 15% of your entire playerbase, OR bunch of memers that don't even make 1%?
good to see you agree with me
>oh they don't actually really HATE you, they just do it for money
if they did so they wouldn't have to constantly humiliate EREnjoyers or cry about them and spitefully nerf the country to piss them off
they 100% hate ERE because it is the swedish thing to do
And if it's any consolidation - half of those make no sense in Czech, even not as figures of speech
joss whedon has a lot to answer for
kys roaches
>Based
Shitskin Christcucks are mad
>GOOD
Eastern Orthodox is characterised by Eastern European ethnonationalism thoughever
Orthodoxy*
Reading this post is funny now, because the latest Dev Diary thread over at the Paradox forums is full of assmad Muslims and leftoid Islamophiles who are seething hard about Byzantium (as well as Armenia and Georgia) getting content while many literal who Islamic minors have gotten nothing so far. They're accusing the trannies/Swedes at Paradox of being Eurocentric chuds.
>Islam nations
Black sheep
White sheep
Persia
Mamluks
Arab dev diary likely focused on minors is next
>Christian nations
Byzantium
Armenia
Georgia
If anything Christians should feel oppressed. I want a Cyprus tree and a chance to convert the region to Nestorianism now to balance it out
Byzantium probably has more players than the rest of those countries combined except maybe Persia, Paradox would have to be moronic not to give them something.
it's actually baffling. Byzantium got massive detrimental factor that made its survival even more difficult, Karabakh is still basically doomed unless in a hands of a veteran player (in which case mission threes won't even matter for a success), only legit improvement was for Georgia, which really was a mere implementation of historical accuracy, instead of being prematurely butchered. Yet muzzies still sperg how now Giorgis and Papapopopouloses will overrun Middle East and shit.
They will because I, the Poland player, will let them.
turkroaches and their consequences have been a disaster to grand strategy games
>moron ally decides to help opm against the roaches
>moron ally loses a third of their land in the peace deal
is eu4 combat ai the dumbest out of all paradox games? allies just sit and watch as im getting fricked with their completely capable army not moving an inch to help
>is eu4 combat ai the dumbest out of all paradox games
Not anymore. There is both GoY$ and CK3 AI. GoY$ genuinely can't into the game itself on any level, while in CK3 AI doesn't understand how retinues work and after a rework, also can't stack them properly.
We can argue about Stellaris and V3, but those games are borked, so no point overthinking that the AI doesn't work in them
tl;dr it used to, but there are PDX games with even worse combat AI
what is GoYS, again?
As the uncle Bonaparte advises,
"Cannons are your friend" my guy
I remember the AI being even dumber than it is now, after all its not like EU4 military mechanics got expanded so they had some time to make the AI slightly less stupid, HOI4's combat AI didn't have this privilege, CK3 combat AI does dumb shit but if its just handling one stack its usually okay, i guess Victoria 3 post beta will probably be the best ever if Paradox doesn't keep expanding military mechanics.
i think ck3 combat movement is pretty good. It will always glue their armies to you when you ask for their help and they predict and react to the troop movement on the field, it works like it should in my opinion
also i dont know what you talking about ck3 doesnt have retinues it has levies
Thoughts on Westernization being brought back as a mechanic?
I haven't played vanilla EU4 in so long i don't even know how institutions work
you can be on the other side of the world from where it spawned and just dump a bunch of mana points to get it to appear in one of your provinces
Well at least in M&T more istitutions require a lot more stuff to spawn
I just wish half of them weren't just tech level and previous institution
The only ones that you actually need to think about past commercialisation are meritocracy and global trade, with the latter only really catching your attention because the AI is too dumb to create a proper trade post network by itself before 1700s
I still hate that they gutted MEIOU and Taxes for making a fricking academic economic simulator that fails to actually simulate the economy in a realistic way and can only be played a single way.
I have yet to have played any other mod that had *Had* simulated Byzantium as well without the end result being dude roman empire lmao.
M&T "economic simulation" is deeper and more realistic than basically any strategy game ever albeit, even better than Vicky 2
>making a fricking academic economic simulator
>can only be played a single way
That's a feature, not a bug.
As in - it's a simulator that exists to prove a specific theory of historical economy is correct.
It'll never return because paradox needs to sell their asia dlc's
Westernization as it was - frick no
Tech groups and ability to swap them to higher one, outside the institution system - yes.
The trick is not to make them "cultural", but rather period-based. Thus you might embrace the institutions, but your country is still backwards anyway, kind of how PLC, Ottomans and Muscovites/Russia looked for the most of the early modern.
Essentially you would have both institutions and tech groups in the same time, but the tech groups can be swapped (both way), working similar to the old Innovativness slider
I like vic2's westernization. EU4's one was shite though so no thanks.
>there is no "West" and Europe in that period did not have a categorical advantage over other nations
Pic related.
>Europe was in a good position because of muh slave trade
This is bullshit and you can find out why within thirty seconds of researching it, yet they keep mentioning it for brownie points. That or they've been had by their education system. For frick's sake, Rome had a LOT of slaves (20-30% of their population), so did the Greek city-states before them, and they served as the lowest form of labor. The Atlantic slave trade is so overused as an argument against Europe by these morons.
That infographic is so bad, it's not even funny.
>46+1=1.6
>46
>1.6
that chart is lying out of it's ass, and you know it.
>46% of the 37 discoveries were from the arab world between 200 and 1199 AD out of the 1224 total, which gives 17 discoveries for the arabs at that time
>plus the 1% of the 243 in the later date range which gives 2.43 rounded up
>((17+3) / 1224) * 100 = 1.6%
Learn to read and what percentages are next time, ahmed.
The fricking chart said Total, not Weighted Average. Not my fault the devs can't be less disingenuous about their maths.
I westernized once as Ming china in 1530
tried playing some random north american tribe in 1400s, it was pure suffering: a lot of skipping time doing nothing, fighting for scraps, and when i finally got a decent income and some territory everyone unionized at declared war on me almost simultaneously
Didn't they waste an entire DLC on making tribals fun to play?
When playing England, is it better to diplo vassalize a few Irish minors, feed them Ireland, then diplo annex them later on; or just annex it all outright?
The only factor is if you need to keep admin or diplo.
IRL Henry VIII picked naval ideas instead of exploration. Just tag switch to every tag and pick the ideas they picked.
>It's just unnerving seeing every single game be so completely unhistorical.
kek just uninstall and read wikipedia
Whoever I'm playing as I prefer to use vassals to hold territory with cultures I don't accept.
When I play Muscovy I always release Karelia and give them all Karelian/Sami provinces. I get a strong vassal, and I don't have to bother with karelian being unaccepted before I form Russia. Same goes with England/Ireland. It's not worth holding unaccepted culture land when a vassal with it as an accepted culture can do it for you.
karelia and sami are low dev and are irrelevant to convert to novgorod or even muscovite
waste of a diplo slot on prime trade company lands
>trade company
I've never used that mechanic, is it as broken as people say it is?
It gives naval force limit even on landlocked provinces which is really good for Russia. Other than this I would not say it is broken. You get effectively zero tax, manpower in exchange for trade power and goods produced (which is OP if you pay for that upgrade). If you can leverage 50% of the TCs node you get an extra merchant and at that point it starts to become broken.
If you have Domination just annex them outright, don't bother coring run at overextension for a few years until you have the whole island the just release the whole Kingdom of Ireland under PU, then just diplo annex them down the line and keep the event buff.
When they make EU5, I'd like to have some emphasis on creating more historically plausible gameplay.
It's 1590 and France has already conquered most of West Africa. The Europeans are all over North America despite England having laid down its first colony historically in 1600. This happens every game.
It's just unnerving seeing every single game be so completely unhistorical. It annoys me. Any mods to fix this? Also, what are the best mods for eu4?
my brother in Christ, if we have EU5 we won't even have colonialsim or proper warfare.
Back in the day the berbers used to have increased hostile core creation cost, which the AI would consider when attacking them, and there wasn't a strait connecting iberia and morocco
I don't know why they introduced that strait
Would modding out the admin tech 10 requirement for European formables be a bad idea?
You can only know by trying it out anon, it can't be that hard to edit a few lines in some text files.
Imagine how satisfying will BTFOing the turks as byzantium be after all the nerfs pararoaches gave them
It will probably make me post it on the forum just to rub salt in the wound.
>devs hate byz due to it being a very old meme or ethnic hatred
>they nerf it into the ground, also buff ottos for unrelated reasons
>players still find ways to bypass the nerf to btfo ottos as byz and taunt devs about it
YOU ARE HERE
>devs get mad
>they nerf every way to bypass the previous nerfs
>they remove byz achievements so players stop trying to play byz
>players mod achievements back in, and undo some of the byz nerfs while nerfing ottos
>devs ban the mod out of sheer rage
>players and devs keep shouting at each others and being passive aggressive in the forums and websites
>EU4 falls apart because devs are too busy being shit on and trying to fix every exploit that could help players win as byz
>PDX says "frick it" and starts development on EU5 earlier than planned
You forgot the final step
>paradox studios in spain and sweden gets charlie hebdo'ed by raging muzzies for failing at making eu4 players stop genociding turks as byzantium
devs of the darkest dungeon did this every time people worked out optimal combinations
i like to imagine the swedes and spanish islam lovers seething
Hellion with no self debuffs on every ability of note
My beloved
>4 lepers
nerfed
>4 dogfrickers
nerfed
>4 bounty hunters
nerfed
>4 jesters
nerfed below the ground
I settled on 2 bounty hunters 2 houndsman iirc
I'm going to take a break from Eu4 for a while (my 100% cav armies on holy horde were too OP) and play other games where I can make broken combinations like wartales and battle brothers
>>4 lepers
Explain me the lore of this one.
The 2 backrow Lepers are completely useless, the only thing I can think of they can do is to spam Solemnity to get back to good shape while the front 2 lepers fight?
pretty much
>withstand
>move forward if front 2 damaged
>1 shot
it was a conveyer belt of fun
Devs of DD are literally mental, so no surprises here
mental illness
>paradox pissing of achievement hunters
Now THAT'S funny
Thinking of reverting to 1.33 since all the new DLCs suck and are barely even worth pirating. 1.33 because colonization is better than in 1.34. The game should have stopped having these goyslop mission tree DLCs a long time ago.
Thoughts?
Anyone got any idea why burgundy is not choosing me? I have max relations, high diplo rep, max trust, and a large army. They have low relations with the emperor and no main allies besides me
they initiated the royal marriage with you which means when charles dies they have no royal marriage with you
I initiated it
Ive read that a few times and i cant see anything there. My only assumption is that there is something somewhere else dictating their choice. Something weighting it
It may help to look at the event triggers, conditions, etc. Here it is: https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Incident_events#The_Burgundian_Succession
Click on the "Expand" buttons to see more.
From what I just looked you must be their ally and have the most provinces among their allies but could be wrong.
Yeah here it is:
>Enabled if: Any country:
>Is not a subject nation other than a tributary state.
>Is a monarchy.
>Is not the Emperor of the HRE.
>Has a royal marriage with Burgundy.
>Is not Flag of France France.
>Country with the most provinces is saved as bur_strongest_ally
That is ONE of the options, the other two being it going to France or the Emperor of the HRE, with greater odds if certain conditions are met such as +100 opinions and such.
Actually it's a 5 options event my bad, the last two are either if France is already gone or subject nation or declare independence and France gets PU cb over you.
I have the most provinces of the allies, france and austria are not at 100 opinion. I understand it can select itself but it shouldnt be doing that every time. Hell ive gotten it before as like 8 provinces albania
we literally tell you every thread not to rely on the burgundy inheritance event unless you're the emperor or france
just conquer the lowlands like a man
Its not that i really want it. I just dont want france or austria to get it. France is the most annoying country this patch and i dont want to deal with them getting burgundy. I also dont really want to fight a death war to stop them from getting the pu. Its just annoying that there is not a good way to tell the AIs weight torwards an event.
if it makes you feel better the ai sometimes gets fricked by the dutch revolt
I cant recall the last time ive seen them lose to the revolt
friday night boys
>load up eu4
>roll ottomans
>open console and hit debug mode
>use own provinceid to recreate alexander the great's empire in 1444
>add in a few thousand ducats for mercenaries and 800 of each mana
yeah, it's vidya time
r8 my coalition
It's joever
just release something big and cancel vassals if you don't want to fight
Should've genocided ottomutts instead for the reduced AE
> 64 absolutism by the time "court an country" ends
> can't roll back because ironman
How do I recover from this?
1)ctrl+alt+del
2)delete the process
When playing as an american tribe, how to convert yourself in to christianity?
The real question is: why would you? Aztec religion is one of the best thing out there, you should be aiming for that instead of just about any Christian denomination. Why embracing vastly inferior religion other than larp?
Because i want to ally with the europeans as a mean of survival. You cant advance without bordering their colony and you cant survive if they hate you or want your shit, at least from my current experience.
and im not playing aztec, never said i do.
>Because i want to ally with the europeans as a mean of survival.
Weakling.
Play alone or die.
ok thanks for the help dude
Fine.
>Because i want to ally with the europeans as a mean of survival
You absolutely dont need europeans, nor really any ally, if you play as Aztecs, as any other native you need allies.
The catch is that you can war european colonies without dragging their overlords in, a very important tactic to employ is to 'spawn camp' their colonies, wait for a couple of overlord colony provinces to turn into a proper colony, then inmediadly DoW and quickly take all their provinces, even if they are stronger than you, they wont be ready nor have to troops to stop you. Annex the whole colony and embrace all institutions you can
>and im not playing aztec, never said i do.
And I've implied you should be converting to Aztec religion, you dumb shit, but oh well, I guess you need it laid down really simple here.
that was quick
godamn
neat idea for a game but spending 95% of your time waiting for manpower to recharge and coalitions to disband ruins it a bit
Without those limitations the game would get boring after two decades since there would be nothing slowing the player's blobbing, if you want more stuff to do in peacetime and the possibility to actually build tall try M&T.
just hire mercs and no-cb some random country in africa if you want to keep blobbing
sure but for some moronic reason attacking a random 2-province African tribe without a proper land claim will severely destabilize my entire country
>why are our sons being sent overseas to die
>i dunno lol
Makes sense to me. I'd be mad too
just pay the adm points and be done with it, it's literally a one time thing
Haven't played in a long time, what's some autistic mod with obscure nations and shit I can try
Europa Expanded if you want tons of mission trees, events, and shit to do
if you're into d&d then Anbennar is ok, it does have a better genocide simulation than base game so that part is fun
Third Odyssey for peak autism what if Byzantium fled to the new world meme
Ante Bellum is ok for alternate history stuff too, has custom achievements in game for certain nations in the decisions tab
Expanded Mod Family
>Europa Expanded
EE is beyond broken and has moronic powerups.
anyone in here play Clan Date?
How are they for a sengoku playthrough?
unholy alliance
>Declares war on me
>Literally does nothing, never sends ships to blockade provinces, never disembarks nor walks troops, nothing
>Just chill and slowly consolidate defenses and gain trickle war score
Based AI
>Inmediadly after posting this, the roaches for some fricking reason decides to join the war in my favour
>War score battle section shows ottokeks actually wrecking the shit outta of the spaniards and portuguese while I do quite literally nothing at all but drill
This is both cursed and blessed
Blursed
>IMMEDIATELY as I post this the Spaniards white peace the ottomans, and portugal white peaces me
What a fricking ride, this never happened to me before
this game can be so fricking moronic sometimes
Oh definely, but as long as it plays in my favour I wont complain about it.
Should I play Russia again or Bohemia?
personally I find Bohemia more fun since you get a central European PU swarm to fight your wars, can easily become Emperor and have a religion unique to you. While Russia after the initial wars is mostly just spending years waiting for your armies to march across Siberia.
Russia games are always filled with soul.
How do I get more merchants in MEIOU? I keep losing and gaining them and I'm not sure why. Went from 4 to 2 to 3 to 2 again.
Unironically get better at trading
Why is my English Channel so poor? Always hear it's meant to be rich but I've got half the money Lubeck does. Thinking about taking Denmark just so I can steer some of it.
Also have half the Ivory Coast trade power and 90% of South Africa but I'm hardly getting any money from it because no one in else Europe has started colonizing Asia yet - do they usually get there eventually or do I have to do it all myself? Bit annoying when the entirety of Indonesia is on the same tech level as Europe
Trade node info, if that helps
You need local trade good production to boost the local value. And more trade needs to be incoming from upstream nodes such as the north sea, lubeck, ivory coast, and chesapeake bay. Since you seem to dominate the channel but have nothing in lubeck and likely the north sea nothing is incoming from there. You also need to boost bird mana dev and build workshops/factories.
Haven't been developing much because I'm chronically stuck with bad rulers and low monarch points, and haven't been building because I'm 7500 gold in debt. Dev in general seems like a really small income benefit for the scarcest currency in the game.
I am planning to take some provinces in North Sea and Lubeck, just need to get Poland or someone to ally me against Denmark. Already took Hamburg, free city AE is ludicrous
Does it usually take until later for the AI to start colonizing outside of South/Central America? This is my first proper game so I'm not sure on the timescale
What do you mean by established on the Cape? I own most of it, not bringing in much money though
>Does it usually take until later for the AI to start colonizing outside of South/Central America?
yes, in fact the only the trade nodes you need to get the most out of america and indonesia are caribbean and ivory coast
i'm guessing seville is the richest trade node in the world
Was late to the Caribbean, just have a small colonial nation in Amazonas. Venice (38) and Genoa (37) are both slightly richer than Seville (35) though
Don't you need a DLC to upgrade those? All I have is Conquest of Paradise, Wealth of Nations, and Res Publica, because that's what came with it on sale.
I have 51% of West Africa, somehow Spain/Portugal/France combined are pulling ~30% of the remaining power despite only having a couple islands in the area. Presumably because they control the upstream nodes?
stop replying as me, schizo moron
i'm surprised colonization is going so slow
>don't have all dlc's
oh that's probably why
well sadly for you the greedy devs assume the player owns all dlc's when it comes to balance
Lil bro go to csrinru and cream api all the dlc for free
>Don't you need a DLC to upgrade those?
Do you? Brussels, Holland, and London are level two; so you must have upgraded them at some point since conquering a trade node decreases its level (and none of those are level three in 1444).
yes, to upgrade TC, you need dlc but not having an ability to upgrade them is fine: do not listen to them
a lot of dlcs wreak the game balance completely and make player far too powerful, your dlc combination is a good one
>I own most of it, not bringing in much money though
The point isn't owning all of it or making profit out of it, but passing Asian trade through it.
How fricking new to EU4 and its trade system are you, exactly?
I've got 68 minutes played on steam
Then pic related, I guess
Trade system in 4 is moronic to EU grogs and counter-intuitive to newbies, while being responsible for making 2/3 of the economy work. The only people who find it good are zoomers who weren't sieved out by the game in the first place. Read up just about ANY guide on trade, otherwise you're for a horrible time, especially as anyone around the Channel.
>1587
>Why is market entirely dependable on colonies and passing Asian trade poor?
>Why the market that collects half of Eurppe trade richer than that?
No idea anon. One of the biggest mysteries of the universe
If you aren't already established on the Cape by that year, you have only yourself to blame for such low income CoT
I dont like africans m8 so I'm not to blame ok?
Friendly reminder you must be at least 16 to successfully pretend to be 18
>lvl 1 trade nodes
The desolate village of Brabrant
Anyway, do you have West Africa? Guinea is a money printer if you're in the English Channel because all Asian trade eventually ends up there and you can then send it to England. If you don't control Guinea then all the wealth of China won't matter (not in a trade sense) since most of it will go to other nodes. When playing France/Netherlands/England its the most important node to rush. Castile gets away with not needing West Africa because it can rush Caribbean for that American gold. But also, like other anons said, Asian trade mostly goes through Alexandria before being split between Venice and Genoa. Its not until colonizers set up in Indonesia that you can effectively poach Chinese and Indian wealth through the Cape
You can make an effective siphon out of Cape if you take it early, but given how clueless the original anon is, I doubt he actually has any grasp of the trade system anyway. And Cape works without Indonesia - it's just an extra money source, rather than pre-request. The main use is that having Cape allow to secure monopoly, so idiot AI won't ruin anything for you.
so i'm having a pretty chill game as austria in ironman, about to form the HRE. Then i noticed that i can also form Germany so i was thinking if i could first form Germany and then the HRE
Is it possible? tried googling but havent found a clear answer
What's more fun, Scotland into Britain or England into Angevin blob? I haven't played in a while and it looks like those guys got some content
Scotland has one of the worst mission trees in the game. That aside, Scotland into Britain is pointless. I would only recommend it if you have some kind of idea in mind that specifically involves Scotland (RP or something) but even then, as soon as you become Britain you are just England, pretty much.
Scotland is like England but you are slowed down by between 20 and 30 years. The economy alone is just suffering for 50 years.
England has the most content in the game and the missions make them so OP you will quit by 1550. Do it for cheevers or some RP idea where the Angevin takes over the planet.
cap on advisor discounts is 90%???
wtf is this dogshit I'm on 110 I should be paid for advisors fricking swedish c**ts
How do I increase province trade power in MEIOU? Investing in commerce? Investing in industry or other goods? I've tried all of the above, but it seems to fluctuate wildly.
Funny, Bonaparte became a cannon officer after military school. He truly loved cannons.
How am i supposed to use trade companies? Is there reasons not to annex entire states, should i just be taking the trade centers and ignoring the rest?
>Is there reasons not to annex entire states, should i just be taking the trade centers and ignoring the rest?
Governing cap. If you have it to spare, take full states.
>Can the Ottomans seriously not take the Mamluks in a single war even though they did literally that in real life?
The mod I'm playing does that. Also Great Horde and Novgorod annex in one war as well. It's quite alarming to see Ottoblob triple in size. Perhaps Paradox will add an event or two in the future.
I've been trying to get into EU4 since I got it for free a little while ago but I keep bouncing off of it even though I now understand at least the basic mechanics. But is there seriously a hard limit on how much you can conquer at once? Can the Ottomans seriously not take the Mamluks in a single war even though they did literally that in real life? I really have to win a war, take a quarter of their land, wait for the truce to expire, start another war, take another quarter of their land, wait, etc? That's so boring.
that's just how it is, the longer the game goes the more land you can take
by the end of the game you can take almost half a continent in one war
Thinking of doing a run as the Papal State with the goal being taking all of Italy and forming the Kingdom of God. Any tips? I imagine northern Italy is going to get messy, even after they come out of the HRE.
rival and excommunicate the big ones
ally and diplo vassalise the small ones
if you are waiting for AE to calm down dig into Tunis
Should I swap to Byz or stay Venice? I kind of want to go with plutocratic right now, but if I decide to swap, that'll become Aristocratic, which is kind of a wasted idea group for Byz.
Original plan was of course to just play Venice, and Byz is getting its own update soon anyway.
you keep your old idea groups when switching government and byzantium decision doesn't change your government anyway
>byzantium decision doesn't change your government anyway
This I did not know. Maybe I'll try that, because otherwise I'm not feeling this game. 1480 and France has Milan and Naples PUs already and a Spanish Alliance. They've also rivaled me and I'm excommunicated.
Anyone knows when the next sale will happen? I want to continue developing my mental illness at a reasonable price.
Is anything else that I don't already have even worth grabbing?
I heard there's a permanent 100% sale on csrinru
I don't deal with that shady shit. If I didn't have the game at all then that would be an easy pirate but I'm too deep into this hole. I don't like mixing illegal shit with my steam account and I don't even know how that works anyway.
>inb4 but bro nobody cares nothing will happen!
Sure maybe, I don't like living in constant fear though.
just pay for the monthly subscription
This. 25 bucks for six months and if play more than that you are a gay anyways
You can pirate the whole fricking game from GoG games in like 10 minutes.
yeah but I already have so many DLCs here, pirating the whole game now would feel like I wasted so much money
Anyway, I'm gonna get the sub and wait for sales.
You did waste a lot of money, why waste more? Suck it up and pirate the rest.
it's too late young lads I have already subbed
You are not me buddy.
But yeah I did sub so you're not wrong.
Anon, you've been had, you're exactly in the sunk cost fallacy.
Rather than getting +200% build time for ships, byz should get +200% build cost. The reason being they don't have access to the wood but if they are willing to pay then they should be able to get wood.
HRE stands for Holy Romagnol Empire
What's a good nation to play as if I want to be emperor? Austria and Bohemia seem like they'd be too easy, while I've played Brandenburg too many times.
Any other German minor particularly good?
Goslar. They have a great idea set, especially the flat imperial authority growth like Mantua. That alone lets you breeze through reforms once you manage to become emperor.
Other than that, forming Bavaria is fun too but I haven't tried a full campaign with them yet.
does multiplayer eu4 devolve into people death waring rather than losing a single province
yes
also getting as much manpower as possible and assaulting every fort
would anon call it fun
to play this game you have to be autistic, but to play multiplayer you have to be extremely autistic
I'm of the opinion that multiplayer eu4 is everything that is wrong with eu4 condensed.
I've been kicked out of every game for either wooden wall abuse or putting a fort on every tile. You can do interesting things that are fun (especially with the trade system where you can deny everyone else any ducats) but you're going to get banned4lyfe.
That or hugboxing. EU has no limited wars.
but triple tiered walls in a time with not artillery is kinda very resilient
The AI is so fricking stupid, I can't get my vassal to colonize because they refuse to build enough boats to explore. All the 100s of ducats I gift them just go into buildings, is there nothing I can do?
Do they even have exploration or expansion ideas?
Halfway through exploration and just picked expansion. I thought they forbade vassals from picking those ideas which is why I was excited about the prospect of them actually colonizing on their own.
haha funni fort
Hot take
MEIOU 3.0 is fun
God I love murdering colonizers
Playing as underdogs is fun
Fortressing up all chokes and turning your nation into a fricking meat grinder is amusing
I love when forts play the game for you
Any tips on the Frozen Assets achievement?
I don't normally care for them but the idea of making the White Sea the most valuable place on earth is quite interesting.
My idea is just to conquer into Persia and funnel all the silk and gems north, it will take a while sure but is this not the right way to do it?
I will truly never understand how combat works in this game. I'm in a war where I'm defending a fort when France sends in a stack of 37k to assault it. Despite me having a stack of 35k that is supposedly optimized in composition from what I've read and me being mil tech 14 while France is 13, my defenders start getting absolutely crushed. I quickly reinforce with another 35k stack, doubling the amount of troops I have over France...and they obliterate the 70k troops in a few seconds.
I then go on to utterly lose the war in which my allies total ~200k soldiers to my enemy's ~100k, as all of my allies wander around in stacks of 1k doing nothing while France sends roaming death squad stacks against everyone. The only way I ever win wars is to sit around and keep checking every once in a while to make sure that no major nations will join my enemy, even when I have several major nations on my own side.
press L, military, army quality and post a screenshot of you and france
Click on the unit during battle and you'll see the enemy rolling 9s every shock phase while you roll 1s.
Useless allies is a given. You can try to get them to attach or assign objectives and hope they do something. The enemies forming a doomstack and wiping your moron allies is a certainty otherwise.
Tech is only one part, there's also
>Morale
>Discipline
>Combat ability bonus
>shock and fire damage and defense bonuses
>General shock and fire bonuses
>Unit pips
>Dice rolls
France gets a built in 15% morale which is huge and an extra 5% discipline which isn't as huge but still big if you aren't one of the big quality powerhouses like Sweden or Prussia. If they're winning lots of wars they're also building prestige and tradition to roll high quality generals. If you're fighting against France and you're slacking on mil ideas to make up the difference you're going to be at a bigger disadvantage than normal.
Mil techs are also not equal. There is not much of a difference between 13 and 14, while there are huge differences between 14 and 15, or 15 and 16.
What about Defensive + Infrastructure?
No idea, I still haven't updated to 1.35 or whatever version adds Infrastructure. It's fortmaxing build, right?
Construction + Infrastructure + Governancy cost + Fortmaxing
It's really fricking good if you blob but also play defensively.
Its the new economic idea set but without the good policies. And yes they nerfed economic for this shit.
Economic was too good as it was.
People talking like innovative is the best for saving mana on techs when if you take eco first you're going to save more on dev clicks over the entire game.
isn't this outdated?
no one picks innovative ideas anymore because they're trash
If you like mana points innovative ideas are mathematically the best in the game if chosen first or second. If you don't care about monarch point generation then yeah, they are trash.
The main issue is that inno makes techs cheaper but that's about it. You can get the same tech savings by taking admin, diplo, and merc ideas and getting stronger ideas overall at the cost of needing to pay more up front. You could even take inno just up to the cost reduction and cancel it once you get the other ideas built out. Inno is better for colonizers though since exploration/expansion will take up two of your first three slots.
I still take inno where it's thematically appropriate but it's less of a must pick than it used to be.
>that's about it
That's not it at all.
> You can get the same tech savings by taking admin, diplo, and merc ideas
3 idea groups? Stopped reading.
3 idea groups you're probably taking anyway
>merc ideas
>probably taking anyway
The fantasy thread is that way
>yes don't take the idea group that strengthens mercs and removes all the downsides to using them
The only time you don't benefit from mercs is as Russia, Ottomans, or Ming. Basically any huge quantitymaxxing tag where manpower doesn't matter.
>mathematically
Proof? If you play wide I really doubt innovative ideas are going to save you more adm points than administrative ideas
Even if you play tallish in western europe, the cost savings from admin will save a tech or two's worth of points in a few decently developed provinces.
>a tech or two's worth of points
>1200 admin points
>from "a few provinces"
I take it "a few" means "the entirety of Europe"
You guys are hilarious.
You know I meant the difference in cost between the savings on inno vs not inno, stop being autistic just because you know you're wrong.
I think you need to learn English lad.
> stop being autistic just because you know you're wrong.
what are you babbling about?
>Can't read plain english
>Claims others need to learn english
absolute autism
innovative sucks but that siege policy with offensive is just too good
I can't tell if you're all moronic or just being contrarian.
if you blob you save more mana with adm
if you play tall you save more mana with infra
inno has literally no place in the game except for the 15% inf ca policy meme stacking
>if you blob you save more mana with adm
>if you play tall you save more mana with infra
Let's see your numbers.
>>if you blob you save more mana with adm
>-25% ccr vs at most -2.5% all power cost and dip/mil tech discout
yeah I wonder whats better
>>if you play tall you save more mana with infra
>-10% dev cost + another -10% dev cost from easier prosperity + even more from cheaper expand infrastructure vs at most -2.5% all power cost and tech discounts
again I wonder whats better
Cool, so you're just pulling stuff out your ass. Take care. See you in the new thread.
hang on I will do some numbers haha
>no argument
I won.
I was even being nice and didn't mention that when you eventually reach 100 Innovativeness, inno ideas fall of even further.
Midwit idea group for midwits.
lets see the arithemtic come on
Everyone forgets the biggest caveat with idea groups. Even *if* Inno results in the most mana savings mathematically for that you give up the benefits from picking something else first. You lose the relations and warscore cost from diplo, as well as diplo cost.
You lose the exploration and colonization advantage of explo/expa
You lose dev and building cost reduction of infra.
You lose CCR from Admin and admin tech cost.
And probably the biggest one, if you're going humanist, by not taking humanist first you're paying more for all subsequent ideas.
Sure it can be argued that you can take Inno second, but let's be honest, if you're advocating for the cost savings of Inno you're taking Inno first, there is no taking inno second unless it's to prepare for cheaper institutions and the siege policy later down the road.
You're forgetting that it's the first 50 years.
>exploration and colonization advantage
missing out on those sweet greenland fish provinces going up by 100 a year instead of 110.
>dev and building cost reduction of infra
All your devving is done before you can pick an idea group. Devving for the age bonus and devving for renaissance. Also, you'll be building at max 2 churches and maybe 3 marketplaces if you are going for a big power.
If you're coring so much in the first 50 years that it is making you a savings, diplo ideas can't really help you with what's coming. There are geographical exceptions to this such as a nation that can hit different religious groups constantly.
>Devving for the age bonus and devving for renaissance. Also, you'll be building at max 2 churches and maybe 3 marketplaces if you are going for a big power.
these are the people arguing for inno lmao
These people are playing an entirely different game than I am. I'm always in a state where I'm up on tech, ideas, and yet have to dev click just to not go over cap on points.
That happens when you do jack-shit all game and just turtle with 5 provinces. 90% of my admin points go to coring new territories, I'm rarely up to date on admin tech.
>give land to vassals
Requires some moronic DLC like half the important features in this game
pirate the DLCs it's very easy you'll play the game as it should be.
Which is fricked, instead of DLCs it should be updates but whatever, I'm not paying for it anyway.
As shit as inno may be if your playing a blob game the most important thing you can have in the mid-late game is siege ability. Reason being for the past several patches AI is pussified and refuses to engage an army with a good general that's even 1 tech ahead. Doing a Mongolia-Yuan run rn and it's insane watching the AI sit 90k troops around my 27k stack sieging their capital down and just not engage me. Didn't take inno offensive because I wanted to go funny horse mode but if I did it would speed things up a lot.
How big you can make your forts anyways?
What's the biggest fort you have seen in this game?
Frick sakes.
inno is absolute garbage, can't believe people still have discussions about it
is just a game why you have to be mad
>tfw adding more provinces so I can have more comfy playthroughs within a region
Give me ONE reason why I should ever go below 30% crownland outside of emergencies
Picking up all three mana privileges day 1 as an OPM, or at least the admin and mil ones if you have a dogshit ruler
>want to do leverage the magnates as Poland
>denied the Nieszawa privilege so now I need to go the second path
>need LESS THAN 2 privileges for the Szlachta and 50% crown land
>I have 2 privileges, Pacta Conventa (can't be removed) and Golden Liberty
>to remove Golden Liberty I need to either swap out of Polish Elective Monarchy (can't be done), have 70 absolutism (super late game) or get 90% crown land and wait for 1615 (literally fricking impossible since the Szlachta is exempt from seizing land)
So I'm just fricked forever now or what? It's literally the first mission.
You get crownland from developing, but it would be very painful getting to 90% just from doing just that. Changing governments seems like the most reasonable solution, I don't know how hard they tried to lock you into the elective thing but you can sometimes bypass locked tiers by taking the reforms that turn you into a theocracy/republic.
You get the elective monarchy as soon as you go for the king that gives you the union with Lithuania and when he dies the Pacta Conventa pops up. It's impossible to swap out of it, the game literally says so when you hover over it.
Shit used to be way more simple back in the day. A series of events would pop up around late 1500s/early 1600s where you tell the szlachta to frick off, you fight a civil war and bam, you're a normal country with hereditary monarchy. Now there are all those missions and conditions and shit.
You probably should look up the eu4 wiki page for Poland, there usually are guides on how to do certain things as certain nations. Most are outdated, but some are really useful.
I checked reddit and found a guy who's just as confused as me about this mission tree and the advice is to basically either take the hit from the nieszawa privilege and play normally or refuse it and repeal Golden Liberty as fast as you can before the game slaps Pacta Conventa on you and makes repealing Golden Liberty impossible. If you fail at this, then the only option of progressing this branch of the mission tree is by triggering the struggle for royal power disaster around year 1610 in age of absolutism which forcefully changes your government.
Yeah I think I'm just gonna reload a save. God damn it Paradox.
did you try this?
Sorry, I haven't played the game since Emperor came out, what the hell is that? Sounds like a mod or something.
>he doesn't know about the op great projects
it's all vanilla btw
I have no idea how this works bro. Also how the frick am I supposed to make it to Congo as Poland before 1610 when struggle for royal power fires?
>he doesn't know about the no-cb country into make vassal into use vassal cb to core adjacent provinces and ignore coring distance strategy
bro BRO...
I guess there's nothing you can do but accept your fate, poland isn't hard but paradox are incredibly incompetent and made it so completing poland's missions is almost impossible if you went blind
I just reloaded the save and did it before pacta conventa hit. Had to replay like 70 years but oh well.
if you're REALLY desperate the tier 3 mbanza-kongo project allows you revoke any privilege ignoring loyalty and influence
it's similar to the puppet the nobility reform, except it should (probably) work with golden liberty
raise the hard cap on advisor cost reduction NOW
Sorry lads I'm picking innovative I need the free policies and advisor discounts
political dynasties
sortition
random candidate +2 stats
Try it out for God Tier presidents and doges that rule for life.
Hey bros, best source to dl the dlc files? Not trying to drop $200 on this shit, haven't pirated in a while
>best source to dl the dlc files?
the steam page
Try out cs.rin.ru
>Want to take a small exclave from a distant nation
>Start war
>Occupy the exclave
>Have to then embark on a massive war in the far off mainland of the enemy country because it's the only way to get the war score to take the exclave
Why. Why is there no way to do smaller, focused wars in this game? I don't feel like invading mainland Spain just to get my hands on the part of Crimea they have. It's fricking ridiculous.
it's a small exclave. get your ticking warscore. done.
is there any mod that turns ducal prussia into a march instead of vassal for the poles?
Why would you need a mod you can just manually do it.
because im not playing as poland obviously, but its pointless anyway because pdx fricked up and and forgot to make the brandeburg pu event work with ducal prussia anyway
Is the AI hard coded not to convert reformation centers or something? I forced-converted Switzerland to Catholic, the center is their only province without religious zeal, I tagged over and they would be able to do it in just 8 months, but they don't, what the frick. They don't have humanist ideas either.
ai in general seems to be really lazy with conversion. Most of the province changes the reformation always seem to be from religious rebels or CoR rather than missionaries, and colonies never seem to bother converting the natives
They probably have some weird cost/benefit analysis that sees paying for conversions as a bad investment so they don't do it.
jokes on you i play with the most unoptimized idea groups just to spite metagays
What even are the meta idea groups in EU4? Offensive and Innovative? I always go Offensive and Innovative/Economic as the first 2.
Please, post more Mayo & Texas screenshots
just post any EU4 screenshots I want to look at funny country name placements and atrocious siege day counts
Install Extended Timeline.
Play Chud
Post screenshots
I only have Chudovo in this mod, city of the chuds.
What's the right way to protect your territory when you have a variety of little provinces across the sea from your mainland? I've formed Italy and along the way I ate Venice and Genoa, and now have mainland Italy plus a string of provinces along the Balkans, Greek islands, and Crimea. When a war starts, they all get bum rushed before I can do anything.
Do you keep forces in each of your little exclaves, or do you sail them there in times of war? Because if I try that, I'm usually trying to land in an occupied province through a superior navy which doesn't go well. But having my forces spread out causes issues too.
Forts + Ramparts + Defensive Ideas.
I just ignore them, it's never enough WE/warscore to make a difference.
transports and basic level forts tend to do me if you hate letting any of your territory be occupied. You can ferry armies pretty quickly around the Mediterranean
This here
is the right answer. I played a Lubeck game where I had calais, east frisia and antwerp. Put fort and ramparts on them and AI will go for them every time. Good fun watching France trying to book it out as I drop a 50 stack on them.
If you can put fort and ramparts on a swamp, mountain or hills it is even better. After you have stackwiped them scorch the earth because they will come back.
Haven't played EU4 for years, surprised people can still play it after all unconnected mechanics.
Looking forward to EU5, with:
>3D portraits
>pops
>10 more more provinces
>no mana
>no national ideas
Not many mechanics being added anymore, now it's all about nonsensical mission trees
>Implying EU5 won't just be the launch version of EU4 with slight graphical improvements, necessitating another decade of DLC to slowly work its way back to the amount of content EU4 ended up with
I doubt a single mechanic added to EU4 via DLC will be in base EU5.
There will be some mechanics from EU4 DLCs but they will be mostly stripped away with the promise that future DLCs will do the same ideas but much better. Same thing they claimed with CK3.
But isn't that just Vicky3, anon? You think they'd do that? Make a Vicky3 clone for 1444 and call it EU5?
I play Meiou and Taxes so i don't care, also EU5 is gonna be more simplified than EU4 guaranteed, there won't be pops or anything that like that.
EU IV has pops?!
EU5 will have pops if Johan is in charge. They almost got added to EU4 at one point.
God I hope they don't add them. EU5 is gonna run like dogshit with them just like Vicky3 and Stellaris and paradox will keep pretending that a massive slowdown in the mid to late game isn't a problem.
Does anyone know why Austria doesn’t change names or become green when you subjugate them as the Ottomans?
>Pacta Conventa event doesn't fire for like 200 years
>had to make it fire through the console to make the struggle for royal power crisis start ticking in order to remove golden liberty
I don't know if this is just another Paradox moment or if I really were this lucky to not get a single ruler with a stat of lower than 2 in the span of 200 years.
I can't imagine playing this shit in ironman.
some pretty nice QoL stuff coming to the game according to the latest diary
its probably the first update/content pack for EU4 in years I'm actually interested in.
>Be Venice
>Want to take out Austria but they're too strong
>Build alliances
>Notice that the Franco-Ottoman alliance is going to war against Austria-Hungary
>Bavaria and some HRE minors are in a separate war with Austria-Hungary
>Join in by declaring war with my allies Great Britain, Russia, and the Commonwealth
>Watch all of Europe just fricking gangrape Austria and Hungary
>Wars end
>Austria and Hungary no longer exist
>I have a big chunk of their territory
Most satisfying thing I've seen happen in EU4 in a while. I always try to time wars like that, but to get so many major countries dog piling one country at once like that is rare in my experience. I've never played a game where Austria-Hungary is just gone. I feel like I have to see it through to the endgame just to see how it turns out now.
Lithuania and Muscovy are out of the running to become Lord of the Russias, Kazan and Chernigov take their place.
That sounds pretty good. See it through to the end and do something cool like venetian mexico.
The game at this point gives you so any inno boost event on its own I really don't see the point in wasting an idea slot on it . Hell last time I played UK I had about 100 innovative by 1570s without even trying just from going Anglican and following the tree
when is EU5 coming out
sow discontent is such a broken bs mechanic. when will they be removing it? or do the devs actually think a random modifier than increases rebels with no real way to counter it is a fun mechanic?
>kill ottos as byz
>all take the balkans
>mamluks frick the ottos further and take all southern turkey + the three exact aegean provinces I needed to get permaclaims on anatolia
>I need to rush finishing the ottos and taking everything I can having only manually claimed 3 provinces
>mamluks get a 70k army and 5 alliances in africa
Time to call in the winged hussars