>everywhere I look
>this game has positive reviews
>no one is pissed they lied about making a remake
I can't share a planet with these people.
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frick off then. bye.
i am pissed about it, now im not looking foward to the rest of this mess, but that's about it i don't need to spend the rest of my life seething about yet another fanfiction made into a game, the original is always there to play as it was meant to, im glad that they at least stopped pretending that the remaining entries were gonna be anything like the original tho
Just have a nice day my dude, breathe in carbon monoxide it's painless and nobody will miss you
cloud is a cute tho 🙂
It’s better than the original
This doesn't mean nearly as much as you think it means.
It's a low bar, but Remake was actually pretty good. I'd give it at least 7/10.
Because it's a good game. Seethe.
If you're still seething about it by the time it reached Steam, you obviously wouldn't buy the game. The people buying it on Steam have known it wasn't a remake for over two years and still thought it worthwhile to buy.
It's like how Death Stranding got low reviews on release, but by the time it came to Steam, people knew what to expect and only interested people purchased it.
Makes sense. Also it was easily pirateable on PC for many months before it came to steam. The only people buying it on steam are people who really wanted to buy it on steam. That's hardly giving you a full picture of how people felt about remake.
>The only people buying it on steam are people who really wanted to buy it on steam
Still cracks me up how much people were b***hing about the price on steam.
meanwhile if you bought it on EGS when it launched it was during a mega sale that had it at -25% off AND had the 10$ coupon. I paid like 38$ for it on EGS day 1, meanwhile cheapest you could get it on Steam day 1 was ~$50.
>I paid for it on EGS day 1
lmao
>EGS
Yeah, keep supporting those chinks who segmented pc gaming into software launcher exclusivity.
I would be fine if EGS funded a game development from scratch instead of buying shit out outright.
>waaaaaa i have to install another program on my computer its not fair
always great seeing the edgy 15 year olds posting.
I have a Steam Deck and I'm not jumping through hoops to play a game. No Steam no buy simple as.
1) Most people who play vidya in 2020+2 are normgays who never played the original
2) Most people will eat up the garbage squeenix shits out
3) I wouldn't call it terrible, but the gameplay is aids and the maps are too linear. Two things squeenix doesn't understand (they are moronic)
>i wouldn't call it terrible, but its terrible
gameplay is the only thing that actually matters
FF7 IS for normalgays what the frick are you on? Literally one of the most famous and.mediocre games of all time.
90% of normgays today havent played it. It was for normgays back in 1997.
Based, FFVII is a reddit game and boomers love it because some youtuber said its his favorite videogame.
But it is a remake. Semantics. Would you prefer a remaster of the original game?
It's a sequel
remaster is already out
sovl
>they lied about making a remake
But they didn't. They remade the game, remade the story, remade the timeline. Because it's a time travel sequel. What you wanted was a remaster, which they never said they were doing.
>Remaster vs remake again
That's not how those terms are used, and you giving them different definitions does not change how they are used. Remake is used for a game being completely remade: Metroid Zero Mission is a Remake of the original Meroid.
A Remaster is taking the original game and prettying it up or adding QoL changes. The FFVIII Remaster is a remaster.
>Remake is used for a game being completely remade
So what 7R is
>A Remaster is taking the original game and prettying it up or adding QoL changes
So what antis wanted
It wasn't completely remade though, only like 1/5th of it was remade. And even then, the plot is basically entirely different.
>only like 1/5th of it was remade
They were open about that
>And even then, the plot is basically entirely different.
So they remade it
Then don't sell it as FF7.
Which they did.
It's a remake of 7, which they sold as 7 Remake.
You love drinking hiv laden semen.
>Zoomers don't know what the word remake means
How are you still holding on to your buyers remorse 2 years later? It was just 60 bucks, admit you got scammed and move on.
Actually it was free for me :^)
Either way, just because western morons used the term wrongly to describe doing the bare minimum remaster doesn't mean everyone else has to do the same thing.
Tim Burton coined the term reimagining that's what 7R is. It's still a piece of shit that stole gameplay from the worst tales of game in the franchise lmao
it continues off from advent children or dirge of cerberus
go back to gamefaqs
it is literally the definition of a remake and not a remaster
Why do gamers not understand that a remake can take liberties with the source material?
>this same false flag circlejerk from yesterday
This is all casuals, shills and Compilation autists.
Why would someone who loved the original play that aberration and not the original?
This could be posted in 99% of the threads on this board.
And Bill Murray is a gigantic butthole in real life.
Loved it
>>no one is pissed they lied about making a remake
Why would I get pissed? They didn't lie about making a remake or remaking the game. They were incredibly upfront from practically the first announcement in 2015 that a) it's not going to be a full remake and that it's only going to be the Midgar section and b) they're going to take come creative liberties with the source material to make it 'new' to veterans.
Not only that, but the game is legitimately fantastic. And before you start, I don't care about your bullshit little nitpicks.. The game has it's faults, I'm not saying it's perfect. But it's still legitimately fantastic.
This is just not true.
https://www.engadget.com/2015-06-17-final-fantasy-vii-remake-interview-e3-2015.html
https://www.polygon.com/2015/12/7/9861366/final-fantasy-7-remake-will-be-bigger-than-the-original-made-in
https://novacrystallis.com/2015/12/kitase-and-nomura-explain-why-final-fantasy-vii-remake-is-a-multi-part-series/
https://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2016/04/11/final-fantasy-vii-remake-interview-game-informer.aspx
etc etc etc. If you're surprised by the fact that it isn't the entire game or that they decided to change some things in the story then you literally did not pay attention to a single bit of news about the game outside of the very first initial teaser trailer way the frick back in 2015.
>they told you they were going to frick it up so you're not allowed to criticize it!
you are a fricking moron.
If I told you that you would spend most of your adult life telling other people what you don't like instead of engaging in hobbies and things you do like, you'd probably think I was some weird hobo
>They didn't lie about making a remake or remaking the game. They were incredibly upfront from practically the first announcement in 2015
Here's a 2015 interview with Nomura saying 7R won't have new characters.
https://www.gematsu.com/2015/06/final-fantasy-vii-remake-wont-have-new-characters
shit happens all the time and things change from what was originally planed.
I am somewhat interested in seeing how wild this ride will get but my faith in SE games has been wavering since 2016
here's (
) 4 different interviews with them saying it's segmented into multiple parts and they're going to change the story
>They were incredibly upfront from practically the first announcement in 2015
That was in 2015
2015
>Not overwhelmingly positive
Just filter by negative reviews and you'll feel better
Its not supposed to be a 1:1 Remake, but rather a "Remake" of the timeline (after you defy the spooky ghosts). Technically, its a different game/version than OG FF7. Its not a bad game either in my opinion, even if they could have made improvements.
I don't think anyone expected a 1:1 remake. The spooky ghosts/fricking up the timeline were never mentioned in any of the advertising, though. Everything they were advertising looked like it was going to be faithful with some additions to flesh out the world a bit more. It's misleading as frick, no one can deny that.
I may remember having see them in a trailer, but yes, you make a good point.
Everything you wrote except for the first sentence is wrong.
I remember someone at Square directly saying that there will be no new characters added to the story after the remake was first announced. So they definitely did lie about that one. The article I remember made it sound like it was going to be a 1:1 adaption.
they probably meant the main characters are going to stay the same. there might be new npcs but they're not part of your main team anyway
What about Sonon?
not playable
not a new character
https://www.gematsu.com/2015/06/final-fantasy-vii-remake-wont-have-new-characters
The question nor the answer was anything remotely about playable characters. So what's your cope excuse now? Remember this is going into a new wojak pic.
This is a 2022 post, what the frick does that have to do with anything?
so you seethed about Marle and Chadley. youre pathetic
That was a 2015 interview
2015
>I remember someone at Square directly saying that there will be no new characters added to the story after the remake was first announced.
True but Rosche isn't a playable character so it's not really a lie, you got it wrong
Roche was in the original. Pay atttention next time
why the frick would they unironically put "REMAKE" in the title of the game if they weren't up to some shenanigans? think about it for more than one second next time.
You sound like a Karen
Are you a fricking girl?
Ywnbaw
People who never saw the original star wars trilogy are also saying the new star wars movies are great.
It's just a generation thing.
I almost never see praise for nu-Star Wars. Not from anyone worth caring about anyways. Most of the praise I see is from r*ddit. And that's just mostly The Last Jedi. Still garbage but not as garbage as saying the whole thing is good.
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>haven't played 7
>play 7R
>"OMG I'm such a huge fan of Fantasy now!!"
That is the 6 remake audience.
i think the remake sucks which is why i didnt buy it or think about it.
imagine getting pissed at a video game
>noooo my deviantart-bait edgelord animu game for 12 year olds got disrespected by the original creators 20+ years after it was released
No one is mad because midway through the game they realized they actually didn't want to just see the same story with new graphics.
In fact full remakes (not just remasters) are reliant on this to keep them interesting. Even if the big storybeats are the same, players get more excited by reveal of scenes that reference or bait&switch something from the original scene while changing it. No one gets excited by just seeing the same exact scene but in a new engine after the first 5 minutes, because what made the original experience so magical was discovery
Surprises are good if they're good surprises. A remake with twists that are clever and well written is fine. But if you retell a story with shit twists and shit writing, then of course people won't like it.
People don't hate things that are different and good, they dislike when they're different and bad.
It's also really dishonest to claim people would be bored and dislike seeing the same 25 year old game in modern graphics, because the parts of remake that people loved most was when they were closest to the original script.
I guess I don't understand this kind of thinking because personally I would have liked anything as long as it's different from the original. That wouldn't be exciting.
Ah yes, time ghosts and endless filler quests to keep you in Midgar, how exciting.
pretty sure the people who disliked it are the ones seething and posting these threads every hour.
I'm okay with all the story additions, I just don't like that they made the whispers actual cartoon hooded ghosts instead of something more interesting and unique that's why I just mod them out when I do a new playthrough
also I don't see how they can justify showing the party max level at the end while they still have 2/3s of the original game left to cover
I definitely think for old games that have aged poorly and hard to get people to go back and play, a 1:1 remake can be something that a lot of people would be perfectly fine with. I just don't think FF7 is a good example of that. Other than the combat being SLOW as frick and needing a mod to speed it up, the game has aged just fine. The character models are a little silly, but the pre rendered backgrounds and music still are top tier and are super fine to go back to.
FF6 on the other hand I think could use a full 1:1 remake with modern graphics and environments, because it is so hard to get people to go back and play a 2D RPG if they aren't already a super JRPG fan. They could redo FF6 with zero story or narrative changes, and it would sell very well with both original fans and new players. (maybe just update some of the dialogue to flow better)
I enjoyed it more than the original. Time jannies were kinda dumb, but they're gone for good now.
the combat sucks in the original. ATB is such a shitty system
I liked the game, but the story pacing was quite a bit too slow.
The Intermission DLC was actually kinda neat up until they introduced the Deepground guys into the story.
The "I FRICKING LOVE DEATH, PAIN AND SUFFERING" guy was ridiculous, and Sonon's death felt like such forced drama.
I don't understand why they couldn't have just used the OG script verbatim.
Personally I'm fine with them going as off script as they like. As long as it's a good story. What we got felt like embarrassing fanfiction.
Don't ruin my strawman
Hey jimbo, by the way, were you the one that posted the "leak" yesterday?
It was modern Square Enix writing, which is why I bought a remake of an older game. Cause I hate modern SE writing.
They snuck that Kingdom Hearts writing on a bunch of unsuspecting people who have not been exposed to that level of autistic writing before. Of course normal people who don't read Sonic fan fiction levels of story are probably going to be upset.
I suspect the people who see no problem with 7Rs new story are the same people who have been playing every kingdom hearts and FF game over the past 20 years. They've sat through literally hundreds of hours of this bullshit so now they think it's fine.
The people who can't wrap their heads around how shit 7Rs new story have probably not played an FF game since FFX.
Whats a good story?
A story where character arcs make sense, actions have consequences, and the dead don't come back to life because they're popular with fans. You also don't include a boss fight against fate or use time hijinks to undo or redo events at random for cheap fan pandering. Also a good story has a beginning, middle and end, and isn't just an ever expanding blob where ideas are endlessly recycled and character arcs completely undone in order to justify more products.
All those three things you mention are in ff7r. I dont see how it isnt a good story
>I dont see how it isnt a good story
Whats a bad story?
>Whats a bad story?
a story that is chopped up and sold back, like all the required extra material for FFXV (DLCs, CGI movie, anime, multiplayer DLC, get out of wearly access DLC, and true ending novel)
What do you guys think about the storytelling in kingdom hearts?
>What do you guys think about the storytelling in kingdom hearts?
2 was the perfect stopping point, it's been a mess after 2
Dunno, never played it
Ive just played kh1 and 2 but never really had an impact on me, except when sora finally finds riku, now that was actually well done
The rest it was just meh after meh
>never played it
>only played 1 and 2 and the rest was meh
?
Yes ive only played 1 and 2, not the 1000 of the other games.
Im pretty kh story doesnt end in 2 and you are asking me for the entire story, right?
>Im pretty kh story doesnt end in 2 and you are asking me for the entire story, right?
you really are a slimy little autistic pedant fanboy
A bad story has no good characters neither relatable, neither has direction and cohesion, and has no impact on what it wants to present
For example, chrono trigger is a really good story despite bringing people back to life. Because it was never about those aspects, but how you actually present them and if they are memorable and impactful
>Personally I'm fine with them going as off script as they like.
Hi Jimbo
You're delusional if you think people bought FF7 for a cohesive story, even back then. It was just dumb fun with it's colorful cast being it's main seller and some genuinely good moment here and there. The remake, while not perfectly, captured that.
People just hate that Chapter 18 was just pandering to the late-millennials/early-zoomers that grew up on Advent Children, Crisis Core, and are used to Nomura's pseudo-philosophical writing in Kingdom Hearts.
Because Nomura is a hack.
That nip couldn't help himself.
>with FF7R, I didn't want to make FF7R
lmao
Classic Nomura.
There are people that actually think he made Square better and shouldn't have stayed a monster art and sprite designer.
>>no one is pissed they lied about making a remake
Except it literally is a remake in every sense of the word.
>People that like the game bought it
Wooooow
>Sees the word Remake as the games Subtitle
>Hmm, knowing Nomura and Kitase it's likely literal in the sense of the story. So it's likely going to be different in some way.
If you didn't immediately realise this, then I'm sorry it's to late for you.
>>Hmm, knowing Nomura and Kitase
normal people don't know who the frick these people are you aspie
>normal people don't know who the frick these people are you aspie
Nice bait. We both know the only people that were genuinely looking forward to 7R were long time FF fans.
Only know those guys by talking to autistic people online.
I liked it. There was a lot of padding/filler and backtracking but overall I had fun with the combat. I liked using tifa to stagger then swap to cloud for finishing things off. Barret was fun once you unlock his melee weapons. I never got the hang of aerith, maybe I'll try her again when I replay in the future. I didn't use magic too much other than for healing, so that's another thing to try out. story changes aren't too interesting to me but I thought all the cutscenes were well done. I think there was zero reason to focus an entire game on midgar and I hope the next game has more variety. I'll definitely be playing the next game whenever it comes out. I give it a 7.5/10 pretty good imo.
>Make a reboot
>Call it a remake
Very moronic, much like the people consooming it.
>FFXV is shit and forgotten
>FF7R is getting daily forced hate threads
hmmm
I wonder if Barry will either kill himself or switch sides when XVI has a better opening month then XV did
>Forced
kek
Now check the IP count.
>Obsessively checking IP count to catch haters
LMAO
Frick FFXV, frick FFXV:ANE, frick Kingsglaive, frick Hajime Tabata, frick BD3, frick Luminous Studio and most of all frick Barry.
don't forget:
Frick the true ending novel
Frick the Brotherhood anime while we're at it, too.
honestly i wish we got episode lunafreya instead of ardyn, I don't know why everyone loved that middle-aged fedora homosexual so much
baste
>forced hate threads
are we still playing the game where we pretend OP is genuine?
The average person is moronic, yes. Sorry you had to find out this way
Hello ladies and gentlemen before we start this post I'd like to remind everyone that this post will contain heavy spoilers for Final Fantasy VII on the Playstation 1 so if you haven't played the original already, make sure you do then come back to this video at a later date.
it's a shame matt never reviewed remake. I guess it's quite telling that he wasn't interested in playing it at all.
This is the perfect Remake video.
>youtube video about a videogame
>it's not 6 hours long
Huh?
Thank was excellent, thanks
>kids love bolt
I laughed
Thank you for this. I watched it entirely and im speechless, holding back tears. It was great.
good vid
> 40 minute video to tell me what I already know
Ain't nobody got time for that
>actually praises remakes visuals
aside from that it was a good video. you can tell it was made before intermission tho.
wait till you see all the moronic kingdom hearts shit they pull in the next one
people pissed about the lies probably aren't even going to give it the time of day, much less drop a review on it
It's a fantastic remake that's why.
youre autistic and obsessed with one thing. just pretend the gay spirits didnt happen. its basically the remake you want without them. thats what i do.
>I can't share a planet with these people.
Let people have fun, it's not that fricking hard for fricks sake.
>daily cry thread
makes the game even more glorious
kek starving pc kids
Why do you homosexuals always act as if the original is no longer playable?
Never saw the point of a 1:1 remake, I still play the original every few years and there's a ton of mods for it, from graphic updates to gameplay developments like New Threat.
New game's story mostly sucks but the gameplay system just clicks for me and I love it.
Believable trolls are far more effective. Do better.
Was the gameplay of OG FF7 better than the remake and if so, why?
yes, because magic wasn't borderline useless.
>Magic
>Useless
We're not talking about XV
>yes, because magic wasn't borderline useless.
You must be confused with XV because magic is very useful in remake. Especially on hard
It was for it's time, I still enjoy it for what it was
Remake has great combat
The base gameplay isn't, but the gameplay scenarios are better.
Entirely different genres, incomparable. That being said, OG FF7 wasn't really anything special. Materia was an interesting system, but most of the gameplay was just the for the time standard FF formula. FF7R is at least somewhat unique and tries to do something new, so you could say it's "better" in that regard.
thank you for giving us a non shit version of this pic. saved.
Yes you got BTFO Barry / easily duped homosexual who hates fun.
Time for you to move on.
who is barry?
moronic FFXV fanboy
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Purists cannot be reasoned with. They're getting what they want and they're still not happy.
based
It's not even a remake, it's a sequel to FF7. If there's anything to be mad about, it's the bait & switch where it was marketed as "Remake", as in an actual remake, when in reality it wasn't. So I could see someone getting tricked into expecting an actual remake, getting time-jannie'd, and then being disappointed. They gambled with the confusing double meaning title and misleading marketing, and got the backlash that was foreseeable for that strategy.
I still like FF7R overall, after I fully got behind what it's supposed to be, and I'm looking forward to where they take it, but I get why fans of the original might not like it.
>no one is pissed they lied about making a remake
its called FF7 remake. if you were expecting anything other than a remake then I'm sorry to say you might be moronic. That would be like going to the fair, walking up to a deepfried banana stand and wondering why everything they serve is a fricking banana thats deepfried.
It's your choice: either you eternally seethe or you just have a nice day. The second option would be the better one for this board. I will make sure not to think about you while I enjoy Rebirth.
Teach me. When the rebirth trailer dropped all I could think about is everyone on Ganker who had ever called 7r bad. I think about them constantly.
The mad people moved on.
>nooooooooooooo they lieeeeeeeeeeed it's not right by my own definition of remake reeeeeeeeeeee
Christ dude.
Whatever happened to just saying oh I don't like that game now you fricks have a mental breakdown over different opinions not everything is fricking right or wrong
People can have different opinions and tastes
Tell me about it. I posted
to say I enjoyed that video about remake, and this guy
seems to take it personally and writes this homosexual post.
Nobody is stopping him from saying the video is bad if he wants to. Some people here just get angry at the sight of anyone enjoying anything, no matter what it is.
he's mad that you liked a video that praised remake for its combat and characters. 7R haters are passive aggressive schizos if you haven't noticed
bump
It's about realizing most people have shit taste and their wallets outnumber yours.
Good. have a nice day then.
is the steam version the exact same as epic or did they fix the issues?
FF7R was the most fun game I've played this year.
holy shit look at those particle effects and numbers
people try to say this game has flaws?
Im sure that people find it fun because it has a lot of personal input and movement, not because of particle effect and numbers
But you knew that already
>Y X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X
damn this combat fire
Remind me how did OG play again?
frick you
>Remind me how did OG play again?
kek
This
Not this
explain
One is a good argument and the other is not
>you have to press buttons
yeah, I'm out
are the time jannies really dead? i played the game and i honestly dont even remember or understand them much at all. they just seemed irrelevant and off topic.
>are the time jannies really dead?
yes aerith looked into the camera and said so at the end. pay attention next time.
i couldve sworn she kept talking about destiny and fate and timelines until the very end, implying that the next game would have this gay shit too. and didnt they go into another timeline anyway? so what, they are just staying there without time jannies? honestly they fricked up the story and it makes no real sense.
it makes perfect sense if you watch 30 hours of theory videos on youtube.
this is true of all good writing in fiction.
i loved the game but yea, these creative kojima tier story changes are pure cringe.
Time jannies were butthurt nostalgia blinded homosexuals like OP attempting to force the story to stay exactly the same every time something went a little different.
no sephiroth absorbed them at the end so he controls the time jannies now
It's been over two years, anon. Let it go.
no
people here still b***h about XV, XIII and even IX and VIII. it's fricking weird.
The people who bought it on Steam already knew they would've liked it.
and the PS4 metacritic score?
paid shills
Metacritic is completely useless, every single hyped game gets insane scores nowadays. Especially if they're exclusives to this or that console.
The user score is even more useless, the same person can create multiple accounts and doesn't even have to prove he has played the game at all.
Maybe. I was thinking about people who played it for the first time as well, but knew about padding content and time jannies already. Which are, as far as I'm aware, the two biggest complaints about the game.
If you already know what you'll run into, it won't be as bad as experiencing it for the first time. Depending on your expectations you may even end up liking it more, because "wtf, it wasn't anywhere near as bad as everyone says."
This is something ive been telling myself for a while. It has to be triple dippers, definitely.
all the big FF7 youtubers (nightskyprince, soldier1stclass, etc) shit on the remake
(and completely alienated their viewerbase in doing so)
My boys loved it from the start. They even support SE getting into NFTs.
>They even support SE getting into NFTs
literally nothing wrong with this
Holy flop
I wish someone would dump a truck of manure on Square HQ's front door.
Its unironically pure kino
>waaaaaaah
Are there mods to change Tifa's character model into a proper booba monster? I'm not ashamed to admit her breast censorship was my sole reason for not playing.
She is supreme waifu material, smaller breasts or not. You're a homosexual if you aren't fully erect every time she's onscreen.
Big wobbly breast or no buy.
too small
They were twice that size in OG.
Just imagine the seggs.
Tifa and Cloud are both spergs. They don't frick hard, they frick shy and kinda uncomfortably. It'll take a long time for them to figure it out.
There's absolutely no way Cloud has ever seen a vegana before he fricks Tifa.
>but Tifa has seen a lot of dicks
She might have. She had opportunity to. Cloud sure as frick didn't.
Have opportunity to see vegana, I mean. He probably saw hundreds of dicks in the army.
Uh, Cloud was alone with the sexiest woman in the game for a long time. Pretty sure he got some pussy.
It's a really good game but they lied about it being a remake. Simple as.
no u dont understand
its called REMAKE because the story is being remade within the in-game universe.
the time jannies thought FFVII was really cool and wanted to see it again, only for some reason this time it didn't go the way it originally did, so the time jannies REEEEEEEE'd as hard as they could to make sure that the actors would stick to the script and so they could see the epic moments just like before.
then the actors got all paranoid and killed the time jannies because they acted too autistically to be trusted and now zacks is alive.
This is the most boring game I've ever played.
Every area is endless corridors of boring brown or metal.
Awful cringe dialogue and story.
When I got to the forced giant robot hands minigame which was an obvious padding section I dropped it.
The zoomies loved it. Now, go play Nioh 2.
Both are great game
the original doesn't have particle effects so its more boringer
>endless corridor
>i encountered a puzzle, and dropped it
pick one. the reason games make corridors that just deliver you to the next set piece is because of zoom zoom homosexuals like you.
It's not even a good puzzle.
You have to trials & errors several times but the movement is so sluggish.
Worst part is you have to do it 3 times for trohpies.
>>i encountered a puzzle, and dropped it
You have to do it multiple times and its not a puzzle its brainless busy work to make the game longer.
The entire level is a literal concrete tunnel.
Before that its was a brown canyon.
Before that it was a brown and metal scrap yard.
It's ugly to look at and its boring as frick to play.
Sounds faithful to the original
I actually enjoyed the surprise. You can frick off aspie.
A garbage game for a garbage fanbase, why garbage? Because literally every single final fantasy thread i notice turns immediately into cancer, Final fantasy died post X, enjoy the endless cancer that you love and defines you
Reminder that 99% of the people that have an intense hateboner for any of the FFs post 10 haven't actually played all of the FFs prior to them and baselessly act as if the gameplay is significantly worse, if worse at all, than the gameplay of each and all of the FFs prior.
wow, so those people who criticize FF games made in the past 20 years don't have their expectations sufficiently lowered enough to enjoy them? interesting
If people think FF is a shit franchise overall, I don't see any issues. My point is specifically aimed at those that act like FF post 10 is substantially worse gameplay wise from the earlier entries.
It's just simply untrue and I never see anyone argue how all of the FFs before 10 had substantially better, if better at all, gameplay.
there was better balance, more to do, and it was just more cohesive
if you're talking about 7-10 anyway
12 was alright since the setting was strong and there's an addictive factor to the gameplay, but I wouldn't argue it was anywhere near as good as 7-10.
but the games that followed were just piles of shit if you have any kind of a brain in your head, too much linearity, shit stories, shit characters, gameplay without interesting balance of variety, even the art styles were fricked up since the switch to HD really fricked most japanese studios for whatever reason.
Keep in mind I'm speaking specifically about gameplay. Even if 10 was mostly corridors, the combat was good for the series and it had plenty of overall content to keep gameplay fresh.
13 I absolutely cannot defend the gameplay of, even if I think the combat was as good if not better than most of its predecessors.
Still my point is that gameplay is ultimately what makes a game worth playing, and it's not like the earlier FFs had particularly incredible gameplay. It's definitely not so much better than the newer FFs that it warrants people, unless they think FF is a bad series period, to claim that the later entries are that much worse.
really all I'm saying is that people are clearly obsessed with the story/character/setting when gameplay is what matters and the gameplay of earlier FFs aren't that much better if not worse than the newer ones
>I never see anyone argue how all of the FFs before 10 had substantially better, if better at all, gameplay.
Now you're just admitting that you're complaining about posters that don't exist
The explicit point I made is that they don't exist.
And yet you're complaining about them
I'm complaining about the lack of them. A lack of posters who actually played the earlier FFs and can explain why they are better gameplay wise.
What I'm saying and what you're accusing me of saying are two explicitly different things.
But the mistake you're making is assuming that when someone says they dislike the gameplay in, say, FF13 or 15 or 7R, that they're comparing it to FF2, 3, 4 or 5.
They're just saying they don't like what they've played. You want posters who have played the old games to explain why the old games are better, but you're just creating an imagined hypocrisy.
>But the mistake you're making is assuming that when someone says they dislike the gameplay in, say, FF13 or 15 or 7R, that they're comparing it to FF2, 3, 4 or 5.
The imaginary version of me you invented in your head does not simply replace the real me.
You're making that assumption based on nothing. In fact, I already made that distinction myself so you're just upset about someone entirely different and taking it out on me.
I am speaking about people that specifically say "X is the worst FF"
If I tripped your autism wire, that's unfortunate, but you assumed all on your own that I was targeting everyone that has ever criticized FF games post 10 (of which I am one of them)
poor
what is even your point at this stage?
>I wish we had posters who have played every FF game here so they could say why the combat in the old games is better than the current games
>by the way, I don't think the old combat is better, I just want imaginary posters to make that case
>the case that nobody is making
No, the point is your criticism of an FF game isn't valid unless you've played all of them
I'm not sure why you're forcing yourselves to be upset about something I didn't even include in my argument.
It's very straightforward
>People claim FF10+ was the worst in the series
>Don't actually explain how it has worse gameplay than all these other games
>Clearly hasn't actually played all the other games
I'm simply making the point that 99% of the people claiming that X was the worst FF has no basis to make that claim.
If you're choosing to feel personally attacked by making some extreme hyperbolic argument that I must be attacking anyone who has ever criticized FF ever, that's you inventing your own argument to get mad over. Unironically take your meds.
I look forward to seeing you ask for people's credentials every time someone says XV was the worst FF
I simply ask how the gameplay of all of the earlier FFs was better and watch as they don't have an answer.
Hell I did it here in
and my point was proven.
I'm not sure why you're personally so upset by it, I'm just making the point that people who claim
>X FF is the worst FF"
haven't actually played the earlier FFs.
>Honestly I think murdering people is pretty cyan.
>My wedding day? taupe as frick.
>I'm feeling very chartreuse about this timeshare
Square lied! All the FFVII trailers showed almost only those cool 3D FMVs! Yet the real game was mostly just characters lazily made out of bowling cone limbs and no mouths! what is this, the 80s? 0/10 game, will never trust Squaresoft's marketing ever again! The game itself was... ah no, doesn't matter! The marketing gig alone makes the game a 0/10, period! No excuses!
Good point Anon, if 7R turned out to be a good game, nobody would have cared about being "lied" to.
But here we are. Just goes to show, doesn't it?
>Good point Anon, if 7R turned out to be a good game, nobody would have cared about being "lied" to.
That is as far from something Ganker would ever do as you can get.
But you already proved Ganker was fine with FFVII after it "lied" to them in the same way
>(you)
Anonymous is not one person and that was my first reply. I'm simply laughing at the idea of Ganker giving a shit about how well a game plays when the alternative is being upset.
But the "recognized reception" is that FFVIIR was greatly received. It's just a vocal minority that complains. You can tell that these threads are full of ritual-shitposters, falseflaggers, and generally a lot of "usual suspects" who keep ruining any even remotely slightly productive talk here rather than being random individuals who only get to talk about it here for the first time or such.
Believe me, I wish there was a daily VIIR thread where people who actually liked the game could discuss if Sephiroth or Jenova was in control until the end of time. But sadly a few people always show up to completely destroy productive discussion to say negative things about the game.
You have autism
Shut up autist
why is there no mod that just makes tifas mod gigantic? How do all these degenerate coomers conglomerate into the shitstain site known as nexus and not have a single fricking mod that turns her breasts into giant volleyballs???
>I can't share a planet with these people over a video game
hahaha do Gankerirgins really
Video games used to be complete, that is not, even with dlc's it couldn't complete itself, cucks people to buy new consoles to continue parts of a bad plot
>Halo 2
>gives you the best video game females in the last decade
i literally pirated the game because of the fact it wasnt a fully remake and it changed the story, i want to see what they do with a part two before im on board again, if it doesnt stick to the post midgar plot 95% im not buying part 2 either.
>if it doesnt stick to the post midgar plot 95% im not buying part 2 either.
i feel like there's no way that happens because the game is more of a sequel to ff7 than anything.
mods for remake that aren't just tifa/aerith in a new dress?
imagine being this much of a homosexual, go outside get some pussy
Return to the Planet yourself
This Barry folk is a strange being, first he constantly shats on ff7 but he also praises it by making these threads, it's like he wants only chaos
I personally think it's baseless and meaningless to invent personalities for people you know nothing about and use what is considered a defense mechanism but that does not remove your right to rely on it.
That's the point, despite being infamous nobody really knows barry, he has countless faces and posting behaviours
https://howlongtobeat.com/game?id=57686
>33 hours
I ain't playing that shit, homie.
combat in this game is so beautiful
It is. I wish it was fun to play as well.
Really? It gets the job done, but it's nothing to write home about. Totally unremarkable.
I was really hoping Oney would prove the haters on Ganker wrong by loving remake, and he let me down.
Oney is a moron, why him?
The funniest part is that Oney is in that camp where he's playing it, he likes what he actually sees, he can't really drum up anything bad to say about it, but he's aware it's not a *remake* and he's having extreme difficulty getting over that. His FF7R streams and video are funny, his annoyance is audible.
>has severe adhd and cannot handle or stand most gameplay in general
>only paid attention to FF7 story in the first place because he played it as a small child and it left an impression on him
I'm not sure how you could be familiar with Oney and still expect anything even close to what you hoped for.
It's all astroturfed bullshit. ANY social media is astroturfed these days. But no matter how many frickin bullshit, bought-out shills they funnel money to it's not gonna save their shitty games! Put all the Maximillian Dude's or wahtever in front of a shitty product, it's still shitty! lol
Yes, but the original turks have some fricking terrible tailors. Those jackets are about two sizes too big.
Maybe they should use the same washing machine Nu Reno is using. It's like he put on his girlfriends suit.
I'm gonna go leave a positive review just for you