Fanservice

Why are panty shots becoming a rare art in video games?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because hgames are peaking

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >professional eroge is almost dead
      >poorly written rpgmaker indie shit dominates the market
      >subhumans unironically post wegs on Ganker
      >peaking
      lol

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In terms of volume he's 100% correct since any retarded chink, poo or slav can make a shitty VN in renpy or a shitty RPGmaker CG collector.
        In terms of quality it's never been lower. For every Holy Knight Rikka or Lorena and the Land of Ruins you have 500 RPGM CG collectors and 1000 unfinished VNs.
        The few remaining proper devs outside of the indie side still make games but they aren't any where near as big as they used to be.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nta
          But Dohna Dohna is new and kino

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's from AliceSoft and falls under the latter statement since they've been making games for 30 years now.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            can confirm, pretty good h game, absolutely 10/10 art
            sadly combat can get a bit repetitive but overall it's cool
            they have the weirdest and shadiest way to buy it so I just pirated and bought some Porno mugs and keychains to support them

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you have 500 RPGM CG collectors and 1000 unfinished VNs.
          ProTip; It has always been this way.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not true, the VNs while shit used to at least be finished

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Most Nip VNs are still finished. I was just saying that the "cheaply made shovelware" was always there.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stupid people will say CERO because of Sakurai's comments about Smash Bros, disregarding that Smash Bros aims for a CERO A rating.
    The real answer is because developers are scared of SNOY rejecting their games and so tone things down from the development stage to avoid drawing the ire of censors.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's sadly a mix of many things:
      -Feminists don't like it
      -China doesn't like it
      -Sony doesn't like it
      -CERO doesn't like it (and slaps a +15 on any game that has even a HINT to something similar to female underwear, before a company could aim for a +12 with panties)
      -And now even if a Japanese company didn't care about any of the above and just wants to sell to Japan, upskirts have become increasingly unacceptable in Japanese society because of pervs harassing actual women.

      Sadly, panties are gonna be gone forever and ever soon.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        *more "reports" of "pervs harassing actual women"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You pretty much have to rely on mods or gacha games at this point. Thank goodness I had a lot of funds in PSO2 to give me all the panty shot I wanted.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          isn't pso2 super censored with the latest expansion?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            PSO2 only remove the bath scene, which no one cares, some inners, which got place back, and the height restriction, which is still in effect, sadly. But otherwise, they released a wave of bikini from a gacha, with a bootless version of fascina diavola as part of the prize. It became one of the most highly demanded item at the time.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I hope you keep enjoying it but sadly for me it's a deal breaker to have any kind of censorship
              The only one I tolerate is Genshin because the censorship is Government issued and they literally cannot do anything about it legally, I think even releasing lewd content in other countries can get them in trouble, also we can use mods to uncensor most things

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No other game has this amount of customization and its two games in one. But yeah, once you finish everything, its a bit lacking. I do play other games on the side and play NGS for the daily when I get hook on that other game, though.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            PSO2 only remove the bath scene, which no one cares, some inners, which got place back, and the height restriction, which is still in effect, sadly. But otherwise, they released a wave of bikini from a gacha, with a bootless version of fascina diavola as part of the prize. It became one of the most highly demanded item at the time.

            The bigger problem with PSO2 is that NGS sucks, it pretty much killed the game.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes.

            PSO2 only remove the bath scene, which no one cares, some inners, which got place back, and the height restriction, which is still in effect, sadly. But otherwise, they released a wave of bikini from a gacha, with a bootless version of fascina diavola as part of the prize. It became one of the most highly demanded item at the time.

            is a disingenuous gay defending censorship by neglecting to mention things and downplaying what he does mention.
            PSO2's western release had multiple cutscenes in episode 4 censored by adding clothing and the bathing scene removed entirely. The smart inner was removed from the western release and has not been added in. And of course the height restriction persists. PSO2's western release is a butchery that shows Microsoft is just as bad as Sony these days.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >-CERO doesn't like it (and slaps a +15 on any game that has even a HINT to something similar to female underwear, before a company could aim for a +12 with panties)
        Retard

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >retard
          says the fuckwad showing the most censored and least sexualized fire emblem ever (so far)
          are you actually fucking genuinely retarded? the game has NOTHING, retard

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lmao this game was INSANELY censored. Beyond censored. Trannies in Cali BRAGGED about how censored it was.

          >Counterpoint: because the feminists have been devoured by trannies. Someone else will be along next, MAP's maybe, or zoos.
          Yes, when I said lgbt I meant mostly the chuds

          >Oh, boy, so now we'll have all the damage effected by feminism AND ugly blacks everywhere.
          I'd rather at least some chocolate fanservicey girls than non at all and Japs usually don't give them the dreaded black features

          >2B predates this crap and has survived largely entirely because Yoko Taro has stayed out of the limelight.
          Nier Automata came out in 2017, this shit started in 2012 and by the time Nier Automata came out there were no western games with attractive females being released, last one was witcher 3 and it's a stretch because the only sexualization there was somewhat tight clothes

          >when I said lgbt I meant mostly the chuds
          Oh, great; as we all know, trannies are famously super willing to live and let live.

          >Japs usually don't give them the dreaded black features
          They used to not censor anything. Don't fall victim to presentism.

          >by the time Nier Automata came out there were no western games with attractive females being released
          Yes, which is why 2B became globally popular. The wave hadn't hit Japan yet and she was the fan service equivalent of the last chopper out of 'nam.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Oh, great; as we all know, trannies are famously super willing to live and let live.
            they are sexual deviants so something we like has to eventually appear from all their horny but the most important part is that women's opinions are not important anymore, it will be easier to get rid of blacks and chuds than getting rid of women

            fair enough in the other points

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >it will be easier to get rid of blacks and chuds than getting rid of women
              Hard disagree. Sarkeesian was was a dumb bitch; trannies are smart autistic men.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sarkeesian is gone but all the female "gamers" aren't, it's hard to go against them when their opinions are considered important, even if society shifts towards sanity again
                chuds will be considered sickos again if we turn the tables

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The chuds problem will solve itself very fast. It always does.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's been 8 years since this whole phenomenon started, how "fast" is very fast?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                One generation. Fast in the scale of humanity, slow to you and me sadly.

                In what society does it solve itself fast?

                When they solve it for themselves. 41% is now 42% btw.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >One generation.
                In one generation, the fertility rate globally will be, like, zero.

                >41% is now 42%
                Trannies reproduce by grooming other people's kids. 40% of Gen Alpha is LGBT now.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Too slow. Don't count on the problem fixing itself.
                Those who give a shit should start a social movement to counter the cancer, and they have to take cues from previous successful movements on how to act.
                The chud movement is by nature very harmful to those who fall for it, and that can be used against it. The gays who keep posting those pastas in the Bridget threads may be insufferable, but they and people like them are your best bet against chuds.

                Honestly, I feel like the best counter to chudism is to show them the freak show that is being a chud. My friends used to be pro trannies, with me being secretly anti. So I suggested that they should watch I am Jazz as an ally and lo and behold, my friends gazed into the abyss and it gazed back. They are still empathic to chuds but none of them think chopping their dicks off should be the answer anymore.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's good, but you need broad collective action to counter the deafening media machine that's built to drown you out. None of us are that young; Alpha is totally in the clutches of these people.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Too slow. Don't count on the problem fixing itself.
                Those who give a shit should start a social movement to counter the cancer, and they have to take cues from previous successful movements on how to act.
                The chud movement is by nature very harmful to those who fall for it, and that can be used against it. The gays who keep posting those pastas in the Bridget threads may be insufferable, but they and people like them are your best bet against chuds.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The gays who keep posting those pastas in the Bridget threads may be insufferable, but they and people like them are your best bet against chuds.
                Just post the detrans posts. Nothing is better for "this is bad" than testimonials from people who were so onboard with the movement that they went and got all the stuff you can get done, done.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, that's what i was talking about. The voices of those who've suffered the worst that movement can offer have to be amplified and spread everywhere.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In what society does it solve itself fast?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >all the female "gamers"
                Most of them are trannies now, though. If anything, they've flawlessly picked up the torch.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >sarkeesian is gone
                Sarkeesian is beying paid 6 figures to lecture every dev from here to Tokyo.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >https://censorship.fandom.com/wiki/Fire_Emblem:_Three_Houses
            The trannies accomplished very little..

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The hot spring had them in literal potato sacks.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          post 3h panties

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              thanks anon, very nice

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's sadly a mix of many things:
      -Feminists don't like it
      -China doesn't like it
      -Sony doesn't like it
      -CERO doesn't like it (and slaps a +15 on any game that has even a HINT to something similar to female underwear, before a company could aim for a +12 with panties)
      -And now even if a Japanese company didn't care about any of the above and just wants to sell to Japan, upskirts have become increasingly unacceptable in Japanese society because of pervs harassing actual women.

      Sadly, panties are gonna be gone forever and ever soon.

      Sony and Valve are part of the problem

      The target audience has been dominated by gacha the last few years. Westernization is a symptom, not the cause.

      I agree on all of these points, but I want to add my own theory is that lewd doujinshi and lewd images are so widespread that people became bored with standard fanservice shots. Shit like Pixiv FANBOXs, Twitter and DLSite have become increasingly popular, so having regular ecchi or some e-boi panty fanservice won't make that many people care that much except for gachas since that's what most otakus are into now.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >are so widespread that people became bored with standard fanservice shots.
        Panties and feet and cute thighs and legs and armpits never get boring to ogle at.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Stupid people will say CERO because of Sakurai's comments about Smash Bros, disregarding that Smash Bros aims for a CERO A rating.
      anything with a CERO B with pantsu in it lately?
      genuine question

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        CERO is not the main factor. It was ESG and snoy's influence. FF7R has a C rating in Japan and has no pantsu shots in it, yet a C rating would be fine for that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >anything with a CERO B with pantsu in it lately?
        Almost every Atelier game from the last 15 years. Rorona and Totori were both CERO A in their initial releases despite containing panties, their Plus releases were CERO B with the addition of extra swimsuits and other outfits. Ryza 2 and Sophie 2 were CERO C. Everything else was CERO B.

        lmao this game was INSANELY censored. Beyond censored. Trannies in Cali BRAGGED about how censored it was.

        [...]
        >when I said lgbt I meant mostly the chuds
        Oh, great; as we all know, trannies are famously super willing to live and let live.

        >Japs usually don't give them the dreaded black features
        They used to not censor anything. Don't fall victim to presentism.

        >by the time Nier Automata came out there were no western games with attractive females being released
        Yes, which is why 2B became globally popular. The wave hadn't hit Japan yet and she was the fan service equivalent of the last chopper out of 'nam.

        >retard
        says the fuckwad showing the most censored and least sexualized fire emblem ever (so far)
        are you actually fucking genuinely retarded? the game has NOTHING, retard

        >anything that shows even a hint of something similar to panties gets an automatic 15 rating
        >what about this one
        >d-doesn't count

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lmao 3 houses didn't show shit; show me ONE panty shot from three houses and I'll admit you were right but then spew some bullshit about how it doesn't matter

          >Atelier
          An excellent example; Ryza was MORE censored in a sequel that only existed because people like the FANSERVICE in Ryza 1! It's not the free market doing this!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >show me ONE panty shot from three houses and I'll admit you were right

            what do you mean doesn't count? it literally has nothing lmfao, they are more covered than muslim whores lol

            >it literally has nothing lmfao

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              those are black shorts/spats like 99% of modern games with skirts you absolute fucking retard

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >-CERO doesn't like it (and slaps a +15 on any game that has even a HINT to something similar to female underwear
                >th-that isn't similar enough to female underwear
                >ignores the Atelier examples anyway

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what examples you fucking moron?
                the only ryza 1 had panties and it's rated C
                the older ones was before the CERO became more strict, fucking smash bros brawl had panties, want to use it as an example too you retarded gay?
                fucking garden gnomes I swear to god, jesus christ

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are remarkably stupid.
                >the only ryza 1 had panties and it's rated C
                This is wrong on all levels. Ryza 1 was rated B. Every Atelier game since Rorona has had visible panties and their ratings were already broken down here

                >anything with a CERO B with pantsu in it lately?
                Almost every Atelier game from the last 15 years. Rorona and Totori were both CERO A in their initial releases despite containing panties, their Plus releases were CERO B with the addition of extra swimsuits and other outfits. Ryza 2 and Sophie 2 were CERO C. Everything else was CERO B.

                [...]
                [...]
                >anything that shows even a hint of something similar to panties gets an automatic 15 rating
                >what about this one
                >d-doesn't count

                >the older ones was before the CERO became more strict
                Never happened.
                >fucking smash bros brawl had panties, want to use it as an example too you retarded gay?
                Sure. Putting aside absolutely everything else that was added to the games following Brawl that could influence the rating, Brawl had the following characters who were girls wearing skirts: Peach and Zelda. That's it. By the time Ultimate came along there were also Daisy, Palutena, and Rosalina. That's more girls wearing skirts to pose a risk to the rating, which Nintendo still wanted to keep at CERO A.

                Also, here's another game with a CERO B rating that came out last year.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lmao he's posting literal PIXEL ART now! What's next, an ankle?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you really think the art style would make CERO rate it less strictly?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes! It's literally pixelated!

                >https://censorship.fandom.com/wiki/Fire_Emblem:_Three_Houses
                The trannies accomplished very little..

                >censorship is when something is added and then removed
                No, censorship includes when trannies fly in weekly from California and ruin everything at the source. Which they did.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This
                I can't believe how many people don't know that Nintendo of America literally sends teams of woke cunts from their Treehouse localization to Japanese first party studios to make sure they don't have to censor anything for the west.
                They said so themselves after the 3DS and WiiU era had so many complaints about censorship in the west
                Truly a monkey paw moment, they "stopped" western censorship by censoring directly in Japan, you can tell XB2 and BOTW still had a bit of bite in them because the first teams probably got BTFOd by the Japanese studios but NoA saw the XB2 sexualization controversies and Zelda's ass and the chud sand guy controversies and decided to tighten the leash and we got shit like FE Three Houses or XB3 lmfao
                Btw if XB2 and BOTW were released 100% free they would have been even more horny

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you think if people complain about that directly to Japanese devs, they'll do something? I really think something should be done about this.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would complaints do anything? The devs already don't want to do it lmao.

                I've been on "SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE" for years. I've watched rafts of Japanese politicians get arrested on "save our video games" and facing down smug Sony employees who parrot "mug private company" at them. It's really hopeless at this point.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >get arrested
                get ELECTED, sorry

                >OK, cool, so it's the West's fault. Aren't we all in agreement on that?
                Sure, which is exactly why I'm not going to accept gays making shit up about CERO having some bullshit policy of any panties automatically meaning a CERO C rating in order to shift the blame.
                If CERO actually had gotten stricter then you wouldn't have stuff like Cold Steel 2 Kai or Atelier Sophie DX getting re-releases with the same CERO B rating without covering up the panties, but they're not having any trouble because this shit about CERO getting stricter is a fucking myth based on retards like [...] completely misinterpreting what Sakurai said or even more likely just going off of hearsay.

                I wouldn't say it's so far beyond possibility that CERO itself has been Westernized over the past 10 or so years. Lord knows the studios that make it up have.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is absolutely no evidence that points to that actually being the case because CERO's rating systems are still working the same as they always did. The most notable impact CERO has had is the banning of explicit nudity in Japanese games and that's been the case ever since CERO was first introduced and hasn't changed. CERO is not responsible for the self-censorship we have seen over the last few years, Sony and western fearmongering are.

                why the fuck are you defending censorship you fucking stein?

                I am not, I want people to blame the correct parties. Why are you intent on trying to blame Japan instead of the westerners forcing this shit on them? You're suHispanicious as fuck.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dude, CERO literally started doing this shit, I don't remember if they said it themselves or if it was part of a Sakurai or other dev interviews but I know for a fact that CERO wanted to "protect them children" by only allowing visible female underwear in +15 games
                Maybe a couple of games went under the radar but the fact is that this "panties = +15" thing does exist, look at DQ11 (among many others) for example, so many outfits that should just have a V shaped bottom are either shorts or have the leg skin covered by fabric
                in the past no other DQ did that
                same with Smash, before they could get a +12 and show some panties, and for wiiu and ultimate the CERO was literally requesting to see every single female 3D model with a skirt upside down, said by Sakurai himself
                it wasn't like that before 2014/15
                Japan has been making a lot of changes thanks to the west, sony and china but CERO is also part of it and CERO's concerns are not western feminism, it's good ol' "think of the children" conservative garbage

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Dude, CERO literally started doing this shit, I don't remember if they said it themselves or if it was part of a Sakurai or other dev interviews but I know for a fact that CERO wanted to "protect them children" by only allowing visible female underwear in +15 games
                Again that is blatantly false, you are completely misunderstanding Sakurai complaining about having annoyances with CERO while trying to pass a CERO A game. You have been given many examples of games passing the CERO B rating while having panties and you refuse to accept them.
                >look at DQ11 (among many others) for example, so many outfits that should just have a V shaped bottom are either shorts or have the leg skin covered by fabric
                You're citing fucking Square Enix as a counter-example here. SE is notoriously globohomo focused now and self-censor their games happily and have been doing so for years to appease their ethics committee, it has absolutely nothing to do with CERO. They censored the salute in the Pixel Remaster of 6, are you going to blame CERO for that too? They censored Mojo's speech quirk in the Chrono Cross remaster, are you going to blame CERO for that too? They censored Buddhism references in the Live A Live remaster, are you going to blame CERO for that too?
                Stop being a fucking moron and actually consider the context behind the examples you're presenting.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It can work for niche titles. Samurai Maiden had the gen z bullshit reverted after the overwhelming backlash they got over it. The important thing is that the backlash needs to be overwhelming; the more people just roll over and accept this kind of thing the less likely the companies are to bother doing anything about it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Samurai Maiden
                lmao the fan service in that is censored as hell

                This 100%
                Fucking perfect analogy
                Some times we get some hot girl or some panties or some based story but we both know their days are counted and everything will fall to globohomo sooner than later

                This thing has me thinking about getting married just to have someone to hold on to, but if I'm this much of a sad sack about the world I grew up in getting sick, I have no idea what I'd do if my poor wife had something happen to her.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They did fix Samurai Maiden's translation via a patch.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Still black void when using camera
                Easy enough to disable with a simple mod but still, not cool
                What's the point of buying a fanservice focused all girls musou if it has its fanservice censored? not supporting that sry :/

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >XB3
                I hate how there is a "non-binary" character in a world where the first thing the game tells you is that people are not even aware of sexuality.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh boy! I love typing like a redditor!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >CERO gives any game with a hint of anything that resembles female underwear a 15 rating by default
                >e-except that, that doesn't count, neither does that, neither does that, none of it counts, stop proving me wrong, please let me blame CERO instead of western influence, reeeeeeeeeeeeee
                Here, have another example. Cold Steel 2 is also CERO B and the Kai re-release maintained that rating with no censorship and panties intact.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                OK, cool, so it's the West's fault. Aren't we all in agreement on that?

                This
                I can't believe how many people don't know that Nintendo of America literally sends teams of woke cunts from their Treehouse localization to Japanese first party studios to make sure they don't have to censor anything for the west.
                They said so themselves after the 3DS and WiiU era had so many complaints about censorship in the west
                Truly a monkey paw moment, they "stopped" western censorship by censoring directly in Japan, you can tell XB2 and BOTW still had a bit of bite in them because the first teams probably got BTFOd by the Japanese studios but NoA saw the XB2 sexualization controversies and Zelda's ass and the chud sand guy controversies and decided to tighten the leash and we got shit like FE Three Houses or XB3 lmfao
                Btw if XB2 and BOTW were released 100% free they would have been even more horny

                >XB3
                This is when I truly gave up hope, yeah.

                ResetEra runs the entire fucking industry. How do we break that hold?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >OK, cool, so it's the West's fault. Aren't we all in agreement on that?
                Sure, which is exactly why I'm not going to accept gays making shit up about CERO having some bullshit policy of any panties automatically meaning a CERO C rating in order to shift the blame.
                If CERO actually had gotten stricter then you wouldn't have stuff like Cold Steel 2 Kai or Atelier Sophie DX getting re-releases with the same CERO B rating without covering up the panties, but they're not having any trouble because this shit about CERO getting stricter is a fucking myth based on retards like

                garden gnome
                also the panties thing is literally said by CERO themselves, Sakurai has a great interview talking about it

                completely misinterpreting what Sakurai said or even more likely just going off of hearsay.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why the fuck are you defending censorship you fucking stein?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is absolutely no evidence that points to that actually being the case because CERO's rating systems are still working the same as they always did. The most notable impact CERO has had is the banning of explicit nudity in Japanese games and that's been the case ever since CERO was first introduced and hasn't changed. CERO is not responsible for the self-censorship we have seen over the last few years, Sony and western fearmongering are.

                [...]
                I am not, I want people to blame the correct parties. Why are you intent on trying to blame Japan instead of the westerners forcing this shit on them? You're suHispanicious as fuck.

                Both of you calm down and stop. The question isn't who to blame, it's how to fight back.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The question isn't who to blame, it's how to fight back.
                You can't fight back if you don't even know who you're fighting against.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The question isn't who to blame, it's how to fight back.
                that's how occupy wall street died

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The question isn't who to blame, it's how to fight back.
                You can't fight back if you don't even know who you're fighting against.

                You're both right in this case. I propose that we fight both. Though, naturally, i assume most people here are westerners; therefore it would be easier to fight on the western front.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                True but how do we fight back against so many groups with so much power?
                China, Sony, Feminists and general wokeness (that is rapidly infecting Japan too btw), Japan's CERO Rating Board being puritans

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                First, do not get into a defeatist mindset.
                To fight this one has to become an activist, spend most of their day fighting. The fight against censorship has to become a movement, a hot issue in the society as a whole. You need to get the average person on your side, make them care about this, make them agree with you.
                But for that to happen, we have to organize. Like, right fucking now.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This has already happened in Japan. They've elected multiple anti-censorship politicians. Those politicians are going up against the entire opposition bloc, half of the LDP, the feminist and trans lobbies, BlackRock, the UN...

                I would recommend you look at AFEE (https://afee.jp) and orgs like that, but this is a seriously hard slog. It's made me wanna get married just so I don't feel so alone.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This 100%
                Fucking perfect analogy
                Some times we get some hot girl or some panties or some based story but we both know their days are counted and everything will fall to globohomo sooner than later

                Do not fall into despair, that's what the opponent wants. A movement cannot grow if you lose steam. If you care, then we must organize, we must fight.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I would recommend everyone in this thread sign up for AFEE; (https://afee.jp) write them in English explaining that you're fed the fuck up and want to help and ask for advice in how to help from the US. Send letters to Yamada Taro (https://taroyamada.jp/contact/) and ask him how you can help. (Use DeepL to translate or something.)

                And send out job applications to companies like Nintendo of America. Claim to be trans or gender nonconforming! They can't disprove it, and you honestly might be.

                May not help immediately, but doing something is better than doing nothing.

                I want EVERY sad sack in this fucking thread to do one of these things RIGHT NOW.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I've seen that, it slightly fills me with hope but seeing more and more Japanese companies falling prey to western lies and seeing Japanese publishers and ad companies pander to twitter feminists who complain about anime cross promos being sexual or having skirts to short or whatever makes me sad again
                Japan needs to find a way to stand strong by themselves without needing the western market
                Or we need to convince them that the western marker doesn't actually want what their woke western branches tell them

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Or we need to convince them that the western marker doesn't actually want what their woke western branches tell them
                That's what i'm thinking too, i believe that there is absolutely no way twitter crazies are even close to being the majority, and that means they can be outshouted. We have to organize.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They 100% aren't
                Literally every single person I've met in real life is sick of woke garbage
                They just don't care ENOUGH and keep consuming as long as the product has some action or marvel humor

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's those people you have to convince that they should fight against censorship, i believe that can be done.

                Since no one seems to want to do it, i made #giveuspanties on rizon.

                Power comes from backing, not raw numbers. ResetERA dominates the industry with a user base of around 350.

                [...]
                This is what you should all be doing. The application pages at Nintendo, Sony Interactive, Squeenix and the like are open right now. Apply, apply, apply! Claim Japanese knowledge and then grind with DuoLingo if you have to.

                If you must go out, go out saying that you tried as hard as you could.

                >Then out spake brave Horatius,
                >The Captain of the gate:
                >To every man upon this earth
                >Death cometh soon or late!
                >And how can man die better
                >Than facing fearful odds,
                >For the ashes of his fathers,
                >And the temples of his Gods?

                >‘Hew down the bridge, Sir Consul,
                >With all the speed ye may!
                >I, with two more to help me,
                >Will hold the foe in play!
                >In yon strait path a thousand
                >May well be stopped by three.
                >Now who will stand on either hand,
                >And stop this foe with me?’

                >Power comes from backing, not raw numbers. ResetERA dominates the industry with a user base of around 350.
                Even if that is the case, doesn't hurt to try.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Power comes from backing, not raw numbers. ResetERA dominates the industry with a user base of around 350.

                I would recommend everyone in this thread sign up for AFEE; (https://afee.jp) write them in English explaining that you're fed the fuck up and want to help and ask for advice in how to help from the US. Send letters to Yamada Taro (https://taroyamada.jp/contact/) and ask him how you can help. (Use DeepL to translate or something.)

                And send out job applications to companies like Nintendo of America. Claim to be trans or gender nonconforming! They can't disprove it, and you honestly might be.

                May not help immediately, but doing something is better than doing nothing.

                I want EVERY sad sack in this fucking thread to do one of these things RIGHT NOW.

                This is what you should all be doing. The application pages at Nintendo, Sony Interactive, Squeenix and the like are open right now. Apply, apply, apply! Claim Japanese knowledge and then grind with DuoLingo if you have to.

                If you must go out, go out saying that you tried as hard as you could.

                >Then out spake brave Horatius,
                >The Captain of the gate:
                >To every man upon this earth
                >Death cometh soon or late!
                >And how can man die better
                >Than facing fearful odds,
                >For the ashes of his fathers,
                >And the temples of his Gods?

                >‘Hew down the bridge, Sir Consul,
                >With all the speed ye may!
                >I, with two more to help me,
                >Will hold the foe in play!
                >In yon strait path a thousand
                >May well be stopped by three.
                >Now who will stand on either hand,
                >And stop this foe with me?’

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I sincerely doubt the likes of Nintendo, Sony, Square are hiring people with no experience.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Joining Nintendo isn't going to help at all. Their translations are handled by a small team of full time employees and dozens of contractors. If you work for Nintendo you are going to become one of those contractors with no power to influence anything and your translations are going to be taken and bastardised by the full time employees who oversee the project and dictate the style of the localised script and any changes that will be made to it.
                Oh, and this guy is one of the most senior members in NoA's localisation department.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also in case anyone missed the expose about it from a few months back there is no process in NoA for the contractors to move into full time employment there regardless of time or performance. People like Nich Maragos and Nate Bihldorff have a stranglehold over Nintendo's localisation output and are going to do their best to keep it that way.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >infecting
                It's a great word. I feel like everything I love is dying of lymphoma or something. Some days they crack a smile, other days it's just pain.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This 100%
                Fucking perfect analogy
                Some times we get some hot girl or some panties or some based story but we both know their days are counted and everything will fall to globohomo sooner than later

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How do we break that hold?
                Become louder than them. That's what i believe.

                Why would complaints do anything? The devs already don't want to do it lmao.

                I've been on "SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE" for years. I've watched rafts of Japanese politicians get arrested on "save our video games" and facing down smug Sony employees who parrot "mug private company" at them. It's really hopeless at this point.

                You shouldn't give up, never give up.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Become louder than them.
                HOW?

                >never give up
                Give me something to fight for.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >HOW?
                Mirror their strategies. For this we need to organize.
                Every hill must be a hill to die for, never once back down.
                If somebody were to create an IRC channel right about now, that'd be great.

                >Give me something to fight for.
                I assumed you already have something. Fight against censorship, any censorship. We (people who give a crap about that) need to start attacking corporations that push their moralfag bullshit onto the dev teams, we have to become loud, so loud it's simply impossible to ignore us. We must open our mouths and never shut up until we win.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                garden gnome
                also the panties thing is literally said by CERO themselves, Sakurai has a great interview talking about it

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Sakurai has a great interview talking about it
                And he was talking about CERO in regards to CERO A. That has nothing to do with games that are rated CERO D(17+)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Who is talking about D rating?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That is a black fucking void.

              I had considered one at one point, but vitagen talked me out of it haha. Please recommend me something, anything. I have read a lot of VNs btw, but will take whatever I can get

              Senran Kagura. The Must Play 101 of panty games.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Senran Kagura
                Thanks. I appreciate the rec

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          what do you mean doesn't count? it literally has nothing lmfao, they are more covered than muslim whores lol

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        CERO is not the main factor. It was ESG and snoy's influence. FF7R has a C rating in Japan and has no pantsu shots in it, yet a C rating would be fine for that.

        It's not that it automatically gets a certain rating, it's a mark that may increase the rating - especially if it's available with a freely controlled camera.
        An A rating is the strictest in this sense.

        >anything with a CERO B with pantsu in it lately?
        Almost every Atelier game from the last 15 years. Rorona and Totori were both CERO A in their initial releases despite containing panties, their Plus releases were CERO B with the addition of extra swimsuits and other outfits. Ryza 2 and Sophie 2 were CERO C. Everything else was CERO B.

        [...]
        [...]
        >anything that shows even a hint of something similar to panties gets an automatic 15 rating
        >what about this one
        >d-doesn't count

        Those were long before CERO added the restriction. Ryza in particular wears booty shorts instead of the more frilly dresses of the previous games. CERO even has a list of updates in their document, but I can't find archives of previous ones to see when 下着の露出 was added.

        Besides, this is more about CERO thinking they have a moral authority to discourage Japanese research because these types of people believe you can't give anyone ideas to mimic in real life unless it's the correct ideas.
        >If they can't look at panties in the games they play growing up, men will stop harassing women!
        Forgetting every guy in Japanese society grows up going to school with girls hiking up their skirts and everyone (including the girls) is trying to get a peek.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Like anyone here could throw a punch before getting winded

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Those were long before CERO added the restriction.
          Ok, so pray tell, when was this restriction added? Because those games were coming out on a regular basis for the last 15 years. And the Arland, Dusk, and Mysterious DX re-releases were all released after Ryza 1 came out with unchanged ratings.
          >Ryza in particular wears booty shorts instead of the more frilly dresses of the previous games.
          You fail to understand the most obvious fucking reason for this: pic related. None of the previous games had Ryza's movement or camera system. Putting her in shorts was an obvious consequence of it. Meanwhile other characters who you don't control in the field were still allowed to have skirts.

          For the love of god, if you're going to keep trying to push this CERO changing narrative at least provide any kind of fucking evidence for it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sony's own restrictions started in 2018.
            CERO's things are more well known because they had to cover up some characters in Smash or outright not include them (like Mai from KOF)

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >CERO's things are more well known because they had to cover up some characters in Smash

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >CERO's things are more well known because they had to cover up some characters in Smash
              Catering a game to CERO A standards is NOT THE FUCKING STANDARD YOU BRAINLESS RETARD

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Honestly it's people like you that make dealing with censorship a pain in the ass since you can be given point after point of actual censorship and proven cases and then you'll come in with BUT THIS ONE INSTANCE FROM THIS OTHER GROUP THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOUR DISCUSSING HAPPENED SO I'M RIGHT AND IT'S NOT WHO YOU CLAIM.
              Just shut the fuck up if you don't know what the hell is happening.
              Hell you want to mention the CERO A shit so much like a brainlet then tell me what the Meruru Incident was. Any person bringing up CERO A must know what led to the tightening of CERO A's regulations otherwise you're just parroting another brain dead take to defend Sony and the gaijin gayry of the west.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What was the Meruru incident? A simple question you should know the answer to if you know that CERO A restrictions were tightened. What happened?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I already told you stupid, I can't find the archives to give you a date, despite CERO themselves listing every date they updated the standards, in Reiwa and Heisei too, to make things more confusing for a gaijin.
            Why do you even deny this is part of it? They list visibility of panties as one of the guideline points. It lines up with all the other stupid shit being pushed by the west and concerns about sexual harassment in Japan has been a long standing issue. I don't even remember how long ago they added the women-only train cars to Tokyo rush-hour only for women to not bother using them.

            And to be clear, unlike the other gay I don't contend this is isolated to CERO only. But for foreigners, this issue became obvious between Sakurai complaints and Sony CA or Treehouse butting in on certain designs/translations, so a lot of anons cite those incidents.

            Is that actually the case? If so, how is that even legal?

            Even though Japan has a very clear line for r18, they don't really verify your age, having a CC is enough. But the US CC companies don't verify either so they can issue cards to teens.
            Mastercard has been the worst about this. Visa didn't care for a while but they got on board too.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Why do you even deny this is part of it? They list visibility of panties as one of the guideline points.
              No one is arguing that they don't judge panties you stupid fuck, the problem is that you're claiming they made some decision to increase their weighing of panties in assigning ratings at some point which never happened. You keep saying this thing happened yet you can't even take a guess as to when and being presented with Atelier should've shown how full of shit you are because the same games got re-released with the same ratings after Ryza came out which is when you put forward that the restrictions had already increased. If increased restrictions had been part of why Ryza was given shorts instead of a skirt this would've been impossible.
              >Sakurai complaints
              Once again, purely related to trying to approve a CERO A rated game, and has absolutely no bearing on games rated CERO B, which you simply cannot seem to comprehend.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Once again
                That was when ANONS got a clue to pay attention gay. Everyone remembers being able to look up Peach's skirt and finding bloomers instead of a black void, that's why they constantly cite it.

                You will have to show research from the Atelier series before I can come to a conclusion about whatever it is you're rambling about it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >that's why they constantly cite it
                Then at least cite it when it's relevent like when it's about a game rated CERO A.
                Hell the Meruru Incident is WHY this tightening of regulation even happened.
                >CERO fucks up and accidentally rates Meruru CERO A
                >This makes it all the way to game stores
                >Parents get pissed off they bought a game with certain questionable content for their children since CERO said it was an All Ages title
                >Complain to CERO who promise to never let this happen again
                >CERO A ratings become even stricter because of their OWN DAMN MISTAKE
                At least do your god damn research, gay.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You will have to show research from the Atelier series before I can come to a conclusion about whatever it is you're rambling about it.
                What fucking research? You stupid fucks keep saying any game with panties means automatic CERO C rating, this is demonstrably false by Atelier existing with panties and continuing to get B ratings despite restrictions supposedly being tightened.

                >that's why they constantly cite it
                Then at least cite it when it's relevent like when it's about a game rated CERO A.
                Hell the Meruru Incident is WHY this tightening of regulation even happened.
                >CERO fucks up and accidentally rates Meruru CERO A
                >This makes it all the way to game stores
                >Parents get pissed off they bought a game with certain questionable content for their children since CERO said it was an All Ages title
                >Complain to CERO who promise to never let this happen again
                >CERO A ratings become even stricter because of their OWN DAMN MISTAKE
                At least do your god damn research, gay.

                It's not even that CERO A ratings became stricter. Gust didn't declare the free model rotation feature or hot springs scene to CERO when the game was rated which is why the game got the A rating. What happened in response was CERO demanding more focus on the rating of games to determine the appropriate rating, hence Smash Bros getting the "show us every model upside down" approach. It's not "panties are now rated stricter than they were before", it's "panties are rated the same as before but we want to make sure we actually catch everything".
                Also for clarity this game was given a B rating after the re-rating. And it was given a B rating again when re-released in 2013. And it was given a B rating again when re-released in 2018. Weird how consistent that is, across a 7 year period of supposedly tightening restrictions.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Also for clarity this game was given a B rating after the re-rating. And it was given a B rating again when re-released in 2013. And it was given a B rating again when re-released in 2018. Weird how consistent that is, across a 7 year period of supposedly tightening restrictions.
                That is very strange. Almost like the limit is only for CERO A and doesn't explain the changes in CERO B - D.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Almost like the limit is only for CERO A and doesn't explain the changes in CERO B - D.
                You mean it's almost like the limit is only for CERO A and nothing was actually changed in CERO B - D as should be increasingly obvious.

                Please post more meruru while you rant.

                If you insist. I seem to have misplaced a lot of screenshots though, I distinctly remember that if you put Totori in the maid outfit her panties are in plain view when she's sitting in the Atelier and I took a cap of that but I can't find it anymore.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A cute! Cute I say!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You mean it's almost like the limit is only for CERO A and nothing was actually changed in CERO B - D as should be increasingly obvious
                Exactly

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                there's a button in totori that makes her do a random emote, and one of them is tripping and falling. Makes it very easy to look.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Please post more meruru while you rant.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's because developers, don't really want to make money! It's strange that they don't, but that's just how it is.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does she wear extreme short skirt?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      easier to move in

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Makes easier for the villain to break her mind by cutting off his own head, it's a thing that happens look it up.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's actually pretty trendy for its time
      >girls were expected to wear long skirt for modesty
      >fuck you old man, we do what we want
      >skirt kept getting shorter by each passing year, became the "new" normal
      >eventually by 2000 long skirt was getting trendy again (not in anime or related media of course, just like bloomer and old style school swimsuit)

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's partly CERO. Most devs don't really want to go for a B rating and even then they can't be sure if they won't get shit over it. C rating or don't bother. The other issue is that unfortunately devs don't want to have to change things for international versions these days. Better to just have a single one and switch a language pack. So they are getting convinced more and more to leave that sort of stuff out.
    >It isn't something western gamers want to see
    The international market is something that these companies chase and if they are getting told by all of their international divisions what gamers want, why shouldn't they believe them?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, even if they are lies, they keep getting told that they need wokeness and feminism to sell on the west by their western branches
      even though 99% of people I've talked to in real life don't like woke shit but they buy it regardless as long as it has some action and funny haha marvel humor

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's why i believe anyone and everyone who cares about video games should contact Japanese devs and tell them what western audiences actually want.
        Even if you think it's useless, it wouldn't hurt to try, right?

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Mike

    What game?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Xenosaga

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sure women 100 years ago glad it was finally socially acceptable for them to show off their femininity and be sexy would be overjoyed to know that any erotic portrayal of women would be met with revilement and rampant censorship today

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its what happen when you let ugly woman take control of everything.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm sure women 100 years ago glad it was finally socially acceptable for them to show off their femininity and be sexy would be overjoyed to know that any erotic portrayal of women would be met with revilement and rampant censorship today

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    garden gnomes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >DA JOOS

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        garden gnomes

        yes, the garden gnomes

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          useful idiot

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hey rabbi, Watcha doin?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ITS JUST A COINCIDENCE

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    left leaning men that wanted more women in the industry started to nerf sex appeal in order to show how much they care about feminism, meanwhile they are molestors or pederasts themselves so they get fired pr canceled from the industry
    now it’s mostly women and ballless feminist men running the show

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >left leaning men
      stopped reading there

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        either lefties were the only ‘intellectuals’ making the games or it wasnt make up your mind groomers.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's too hot for this soft, easily-offended and always-oppressed generation of people. Can't afford to take risks with sales if it upsets minorities who won't even consume your media

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    politics-morons are all the same
    >it's bad because it's sexist
    >it's bad because it's degenerate

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sony and Valve are part of the problem

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The target audience has been dominated by gacha the last few years. Westernization is a symptom, not the cause.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s always been this way in the West. Men and boy butts/underwear in cartoons are haha funny, women and girl butts…? SEXIST

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because american platforms basically with their censorship rules and JP developers thinking of global market, only nintendo can save you from burger people

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have all those games on PS4.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Censored in some way or another

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Actually, no.
          Keep on spouting bullshit you read here tho
          Also rent-free

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You don't even need to try to see her underwear. She shows it off constantly in cutscenes. Particularly the scenes after Albedo abducts her.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ESG funding from the talmud-worshipping Laurence D. Fink. There's your reason. btw, that ends April 1st.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Then what happens?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well, with no more ESG funding, I doubt companies will make games that they must sell at a loss just to "own teh conservtards" or whatever. So I'd expect it to heavily diminish in the new fiscal year going forward.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is my hope
          There has to be a limit and right now feminism is getting less and less talked about in favor of blacks and lgbtq and zoomers are pretty horny
          These days even on twitter and reddit you get more positive than negative reactions to the few sexualized characters that manage to exist
          Look at SF6, you all can call it ugly or whatever but the fact is that it has titty, thigh and butt physics and normies have been pretty into it and very vocal about it

          I think it started thanks to Nier Automata
          2B showed gaming companies that a game benefits from attractive female characters (I mean look at Square whoring her to literally every game possible), obviously they are a bit scared of twitter backlash but some companies are definitely testing the waters

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >right now feminism is getting less and less talked about
            Counterpoint: because the feminists have been devoured by trannies. Someone else will be along next, MAP's maybe, or zoos.

            >in favor of blacks
            Oh, boy, so now we'll have all the damage effected by feminism AND ugly blacks everywhere.

            >2B showed gaming companies that a game benefits from attractive female characters
            2B predates this crap and has survived largely entirely because Yoko Taro has stayed out of the limelight.

            It's gonna be very, very hard to claw our way back. Zoomers HATE anything erotic. BlackRock owns the economy. We're on very unfriendly ground.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Definitely MAPs next, dicky as a meme has been carving out an insane frontier in just the past couple months, meanwhile zoophiles are still largely underground and their best shot at mainstream acceptance is through a community that already gets a bad rep

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nah maps will never be accepted, it's like the absolute line
                e-boicon should be accepted if sodomy is, at least e-boicon doesn't have to do with real people unlike chuds and sodomites

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >MAP's are gonna do to dickyposting what trannies did to my other hobbies
                I'm gonna be posting that sob emoji for real, aren't I?

                I wouldn't say maladjusted, they just have different tastes. Seeing a tight ass in jeans or yoga pants would be more attractive to them, for example. Panty shots in general were only ever really popular in japan anyways,

                Yeah, because most Zoomers in the US are nonwhite. Liking boobs or panties as opposed to ass is a white and North Asian thing.

                >obviously they are a bit scared of twitter backlash but some companies are definitely testing the waters
                I dunno we’ll see, EG - within the Tomb Raider fandom the overwhelming majority want ‘Classic’ Lara Croft back (Short shorts, dual pistols, not crying all the time) - Including women who enjoy TR as a power fantasy, but it won’t fucking happen.

                Remember, gaming fell first. If we do claw back (which we might, not sure) it will probably be liberated last.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Whites don't like panties either, retard. Hell, liking thongs and g-strings is another "black" fetish.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                True, only Japanese were really staying pure and innocent enough to admire the soft cottony goodness of a panty shot.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you me? Please give me some recs

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Vita. Get a Vita.

                God, I love panty shots. The freshly washed puffy goodness hiding on the other side of that thin, soft fabric. Aaaah, it's wonderful.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I had considered one at one point, but vitagen talked me out of it haha. Please recommend me something, anything. I have read a lot of VNs btw, but will take whatever I can get

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Counterpoint: because the feminists have been devoured by trannies. Someone else will be along next, MAP's maybe, or zoos.
              Yes, when I said lgbt I meant mostly the chuds

              >Oh, boy, so now we'll have all the damage effected by feminism AND ugly blacks everywhere.
              I'd rather at least some chocolate fanservicey girls than non at all and Japs usually don't give them the dreaded black features

              >2B predates this crap and has survived largely entirely because Yoko Taro has stayed out of the limelight.
              Nier Automata came out in 2017, this shit started in 2012 and by the time Nier Automata came out there were no western games with attractive females being released, last one was witcher 3 and it's a stretch because the only sexualization there was somewhat tight clothes

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Despite what you might think Overwatch is highly sexualized. The females come with perfect hourglass figures and skin tight outfits. There is a reason why Overwatch became the most popular searched for gaming term on pornhub that year.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >obviously they are a bit scared of twitter backlash but some companies are definitely testing the waters
            I dunno we’ll see, EG - within the Tomb Raider fandom the overwhelming majority want ‘Classic’ Lara Croft back (Short shorts, dual pistols, not crying all the time) - Including women who enjoy TR as a power fantasy, but it won’t fucking happen.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Look at SF6, you all can call it ugly or whatever but the fact is that it has titty, thigh and butt physics and normies have been pretty into it and very vocal about it
            SF6 looks ugly as shit and sanitised to hell though?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where does it say it ends April 1st?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ESG funding is ending in the new fiscal year. BlackRock has lost over 2 trillion dollars in 2022 (possibly closer to 3 now, I believe). They don't have the means to keep the propaganda show up much longer nor will they be renewing their contracts for it. With the coming economic collapse in April and forward in 2023, games being "woke" will be the least of most people's concerns. Fink included.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >BlackRock has lost over 2 trillion dollars in 2022
          Do you have any idea how much money has been printed in 2022 alone? 50% of Japan's hard reserves are managed by BlackRock!

          This doesn't just "end". There's no magic free market snap back to reality that fixes everything. And even if there was, the devs are gone, the games are ruined, Bridget is trans, etc. The Shire has been scoured. We need to find a way to move forward.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It does in 2023. BlackRock is going to be largely useless when the value of money itself becomes a joke. They cannot keep kicking this can down the road forever. This honestly goes much deeper than The Vanguard Group or their subsidiary, BlackRock. Think 1929 levels of insanity coming to you very, very soon.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Hard to be optimistic when the solution to the end of video game fan service ends up being the end of video games themselves.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Source?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >expecting evidence from any of these schizo lunatics
            lol
            lmao

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Good goyim, take 10 shekels for your service.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is my hope
          There has to be a limit and right now feminism is getting less and less talked about in favor of blacks and lgbtq and zoomers are pretty horny
          These days even on twitter and reddit you get more positive than negative reactions to the few sexualized characters that manage to exist
          Look at SF6, you all can call it ugly or whatever but the fact is that it has titty, thigh and butt physics and normies have been pretty into it and very vocal about it

          I think it started thanks to Nier Automata
          2B showed gaming companies that a game benefits from attractive female characters (I mean look at Square whoring her to literally every game possible), obviously they are a bit scared of twitter backlash but some companies are definitely testing the waters

          >BlackRock has lost over 2 trillion dollars in 2022
          Do you have any idea how much money has been printed in 2022 alone? 50% of Japan's hard reserves are managed by BlackRock!

          This doesn't just "end". There's no magic free market snap back to reality that fixes everything. And even if there was, the devs are gone, the games are ruined, Bridget is trans, etc. The Shire has been scoured. We need to find a way to move forward.

          >right now feminism is getting less and less talked about
          Counterpoint: because the feminists have been devoured by trannies. Someone else will be along next, MAP's maybe, or zoos.

          >in favor of blacks
          Oh, boy, so now we'll have all the damage effected by feminism AND ugly blacks everywhere.

          >2B showed gaming companies that a game benefits from attractive female characters
          2B predates this crap and has survived largely entirely because Yoko Taro has stayed out of the limelight.

          It's gonna be very, very hard to claw our way back. Zoomers HATE anything erotic. BlackRock owns the economy. We're on very unfriendly ground.

          So which ones of these are true? Can you back up your claims?
          I'm really hoping is right. I also don't believe the claim that gen z is full of puritans.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I also don't believe the claim that gen z is full of puritans.
            Google "puriteenism". Or, more accurately, search on Twitter or TikTok.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >google it
              >get literally 7 results
              Epic doomposting

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why is ESG stopping on April 1st?

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it seem like nowadays most men has some sort of mental illness and everyone seems to be cut his testicles and be raised him as a girl

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    garden gnomes.

    Call me 4chan or whatever, but it's because of ESG and American cultural imperialism and those are both effected by gnomish Americans who see them as ways to effect Tikkun Olam. Would it be someone else without garden gnomes? Sure, maybe. But it isn't now.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >being a coomer is bad
    >coomerbait is good tho
    >"yEs."

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Panty shots are a dying fetish

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Zoomers are so sexually maladjusted that you're probably right.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wouldn't say maladjusted, they just have different tastes. Seeing a tight ass in jeans or yoga pants would be more attractive to them, for example. Panty shots in general were only ever really popular in japan anyways,

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We weren't allowed to have them in the West. I can think of very few cartoons where a girl's panties were ever shown, and it was usually only once per entire series.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's painful.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What are some games with a free cam mod so I can enjoy upskirts?

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Blackrock is just zoomer George Soros

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Using twitter too much
    >hearing voices constantly, have also developed gout in both my penis and eyeballs
    >january 2023 and trump still hasn't been reinstated despite Qanon saying trust the plan
    >listening to voices and have purchased a gun

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    panties are just censored pussies, why not look at porn online?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if i wanted to look at porn i'd just google your mom's name

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Xenogear > XenoSaga >>> Xenoblade

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Politicians using your taxes for stupid things like censoring a game, keep the money running for them and keeps us busy not asking why food is more expensive

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally everyone's whining about how expensive food is

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anya pantsu

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This game only released a couple years ago and there is panty shots in it too.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      couple MONTHS ago*
      Sept 2022 to be exact.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      couple MONTHS ago*
      Sept 2022 to be exact.

      A major plot point in that game is evil white supremacists bullying immigrants, and there's side quests where you stick up for gay people. Also the characters go on "fuck racism" rants.
      It has fanservice, yes, but it's still a very woke game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Post said pantyshots while the normalfags ITT are busy burning themselves out

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The camera doesn't let you just upskirt, you have to work for your look at panties
        Usually just sprinting is enough though.
        This is the best I can do from a screenshot.
        I know some cutscenes and battle animations flash panties sometimes too though
        It's more of a tits game really, but the panties are there

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Here's something from Kuro no Kiseki 1 (2021 game so it's recent)
          Some of the best titty fanservice ever and it's a new game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shame about the gameplay

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Evil American/garden gnome Overlords are threatening to cut off crucial international banking services to other countries unless they stop being pervy. It's all a ploy to scapegoat attention away from the fact that the people making these demands are actual pedophils of real Children, though. People have been using that deflection tactic for thousands of years. They used to think being a member of the senate or church made you exempt from suHispanician and accusation too.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This anon is correct.

      True but how do we fight back against so many groups with so much power?
      China, Sony, Feminists and general wokeness (that is rapidly infecting Japan too btw), Japan's CERO Rating Board being puritans

      This I do not know. I feel like maybe we just have to hold as much of the old world as we can and forge ahead into a totally new future.

      It's so unfair that this happens right as I enter adulthood, though. Like I showed up at a great party that's ending.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Triple A games will never have panties again
        Indies are the future
        Specially Japanese indies

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I remember when it was indie games and Japanese games.
          Then it was Japanese games.
          Now it's Japanese Indies.

          This 100%
          Fucking perfect analogy
          Some times we get some hot girl or some panties or some based story but we both know their days are counted and everything will fall to globohomo sooner than later

          Some people do beat cancer. We have no idea what the future holds.

          We just have to never, ever, ever give up. Hoard old games and either claw back or at the very least go out unrepentant. No matter what happens, never lose the smile until you've either won or are dead.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but there is literally no way for these people to stop indies unless the government makes titillating entertainment illegal lmfao
            ...
            Well they ARE trying with the payment processors banning people from buying sexual content but we'll always find an alternative

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Panty shots in old games gave me a panty fetish

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Physical violence is the only answer. You need to start harming every employee at Japanese companies' Western branches

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This just ends in you shooting up the ground floor of a shared office building which is home to something like Bob's big box shipping

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody said anything about mass violence.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    for me the biggest censorship issue right now is credit card companies trying to shut actual porn down. I can't even buy imaginary docks for my boat .jpgs now because visa and mastercard tried to muscle in on dmm.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is that actually the case? If so, how is that even legal?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >We don't agree with the content you're selling, we're not going to let you use our privately owned money transfer system.

        The state of Louisiana just required a digital verification as well for age gates.
        https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/3/23537226/louisiana-pornhub-age-verification-law-government-id

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. A recent notable incident is that Pixiv is now banning all e-boi content from Booth and Fanbox because of Mastercard. And that's extra shit because all the people on Fanbox are going to move to Fantia with its cancerous back issue payment system.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >A recent notable incident is that Pixiv is now banning all e-boi content from Booth and Fanbox because of Mastercard
          They either clarified or backed off. Only 3D/realistic content is banned

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, that's for Pixiv itself. Booth and Fanbox are separate.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Untrue, the rules were for BOOTH and Fanbox from the beginning because Pixiv doesn't have paid content, only Fanbox and BOOTH do. And I still see and follow artists that publish e-boi and nothing has changed

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, that's for Pixiv itself. Booth and Fanbox are separate.

          Every e-boi artist I follow still uploads to fanbox no problem you dumb dipshit

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Legality means nothing when you control everything.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All the Japanese devs, who mostly had fanservice in their games supported Sony, and after Sony moved their operations to California, we started to see massive "censorship" and some games stopped being released or even downgraded on all platforms because they didn't want to take the time to only censor one platform
    If you look at it this way, it's mainly Sony's fault

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why are panty shots becoming a rare art in video games?
    because its making women obsolete and hindering birthrates across the globe, which is bad for the human species (or good, since we're 8 billion and growing)

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is that real? What the fuck that looks better than the pantsu in Kingdom Hearts.
    Though I am guessing that was censored in the localized version cuz I dont remember panties in Xenosaga.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.caltrops.com/review0012.php

      Xenosaga. Early PS2 era just before CERO established even.

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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