last time i played coh2 was last year. had no problems but i also live in sweden where the internet is super good by default
haven't touched 1 sicne i pirated it at launch tho lol
>get two parrot guns in an army >arguably win the game now that i can hit attacking units with shells and grapeshot >free comfy period where my army watches the first two gates or so to a castle fall to my artillery >3 for a good ratio, and armstrongs if I want to feel bougie
Nothing has felt better than FOTS artillery.
Well you can roll most siege weapons against a group of Mangudais they will frick them up sidweways. I like the wagon mostly for the >oh he's gonna rush me with monks better prep- >roll with an army of Wagons, Pikes and Houfnices blasting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr7JBuI3-3I
The Hussite campaign is my favorite so far alongside Pachacuti, the Kamayuk + Slinger combo is great.
DoW2 has such kino voice acting and unit chatter. It's a shame the campaign is some of the worst bullshit I've ever seen in an RTS or tactics game. Broken AI half the time. Enemy units with 4x as much HP as you so you have to abuse Cyrus sniping the entire map which takes 2 hours. Thaddeus being fricking useless because he gets gibbed the second he lands.
ah, i forgot they were equipped with the panzerfaust. i hopped back on CoH2 last year and realised that even conscripts got a AT grenade now. just took like what? 10 years? but the panzerfaust and the AT grenade has the same function
fair enough. not enough of a motivator for me tbh. beacuse "cheaper" in these types of games means they cost like 10% less than other normal units and shit which just doesn't move me mentally exactly
i always found it too unwieldy for me. way too slow, way too vulnerable for its size and way too late to get them. i prefer the normal medium tank destroyer. that one can still fight every form of tank
i've always been in love with the idea of anti infantry infantry. even more so if they're not heavy infantry because at that point, it's the end all be all which makes it not as much fun. they've also got kino lines which makes it even better
>Fav units is this lad because he boosts everyone, calls strikes and can even force rockets batteries to shoot again.
based, i used to main the commissar command squad. basically fills the same function as your fav unit
first is from the normal germans and the second is from the obercommandos. The first has good infantry boost and mortar strike the second has good veterancy unlokcs like 5 squads and an STG but his debuff abilities aren't great
Practically every unit from Battle Realms. They had this chunkiness to them and you had to individually train them from peasants so each one was valuable. Also, that seamless choice between good and evil in the campaign at the very start.
the third thing for the oberkommando West first building. Allows your units to fall back to its location and not your spawn. useful but it makes it so any reinforcement from this building is slowed (to something around 60% I'd say). One of if not the only upgrade with a downside
wait, what's the difference between retreating to your hq compared to that building instead? wouldn't they be located next to each other or some shit?
t. i don't remember at all how OKW played or built lol
oh ok I thought you were trolling. The perk/ curse of the Ober is the fact you have to turn trucks into buildings : it allows you to park your unit prod buildings wherevever you want so you could park this truck next to a star point and then enable retreat from here. It makes you avoid having to make you unit walk from the spawn all over again
right, that's how they worked. tbf in all my 500+ hrs of playtime. i don't think i ever saw anyone park their production building anywhere outside of their base
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really ? They are cowards then. I usually park them halfway (they get destroyed a few times too lol)
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tbf it's very risky. i also only play 3v3 or 4v4 lmao. so there's more variables to account for
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I tend to go ougabouga with the obers tbh. I like going ultra agressive
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that's fair
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How? Usually they park at least their gun truck to the cutoff point
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THE GUN TRUCK! frick i forgot about that completely. yeah that one tends to camp star points lol
I remember when they were just panzergrenadiers at T0 that built better barbed wire, had better repairs and could 1v1 every single T0 T1 and unupgraded T2 infantry out there
eh who am i kidding. these are the people who at launch thought your anti vehicle move was supposed to be penal battalions slinging a normal satchel charge at a tank lmao
>Play Oberkommando >Enemy soviet player spams support weapons/mgs on a map with mostly choke points >Remember OKW has very limited or effective options of deal with this
I hate having to spam IFGs is not fun at all.
soviet player spams support weapons/mgs on a map with mostly choke points
OKW has very limited or effective options of deal with this
you have 5 men infantry squads that are good at close range and can take headon mgs in green cover, and 4 men stg44 squads. You can also use a kubelwagen that can easily run past mgs and cap cutoffs, forcing the player to reroute mgs or invest infantry squads and either way you can coordinate its escape to dismantle mgs with infantry rushes
So skill issue
Eh, AoE is one I'm not that familiar with but generally a lot of it boils down to cutting your opponents resources away while keeping the pressure up by building your resources and units.
years of experience and practice to recognize and execute what will give you the best win % in any situation.
or just play how you want. go freestyle or learn a couple buildorders and tweak them to your playstyle.
Against computer even a monkey could do it
Against players you need to learn a few basic general rules. RTS isn't just about build orders, it's mostly about tactics, risk management, knowing when to committ to a fight, to engage in your own terms and having an understanding of ranges, baiting, hotkeys and coordination between multiple units
Soviet in CoH2 is overpowered as shit. They are good at everything. Even conscript can beat grenadier in a straight up fight if they get close. The T-70 is good against both vehicles and weapons while Axis has nothing of that caliber (except OKW Puma but that requires a healing skip). T-34 may be shit compared to Panzer but it's cheap and shit all over infantry. SU-85 can shoot from across the map and has self-spotting ability. If you want to see real kekery a ptrs penal deathblob can wipe a panther in 2 seconds and two grenadier squads in 3.
damn, i never thought about it like that. but i also never was a meta gamer in coh2. i just played it for fun. i always skip t-34's because of how unreliable they are to me. i'm more about surviving until i get to su-85 lmao >If you want to see real kekery a ptrs penal deathblob can wipe a panther in 2 seconds and two grenadier squads in 3.
bruh no way? i had no idea
>Soviet in CoH2 is overpowered as shit. They are good at everything. Even conscript can beat grenadier in a straight up fight if they get close.
The long range advantage means it's the Soviet player that has to put the utmost care in engaging. If you get jumped at by conscripts at long range either you suck at knowing/predicting enemy movements or you overcommitted to a position you couldn't mantain >The T-70 is good against both vehicles and weapons while Axis has nothing of that caliber (except OKW Puma but that requires a healing skip).
The T-70 comes considerably later than the 222 and is a direct counter to that. By that time Wehrmacht can pull out Pak42 and is going to get a Panzer 4 in 5 minutes >T-34 may be shit compared to Panzer but it's cheap and shit all over infantry.
That's his job, yes >SU-85 can shoot from across the map and has self-spotting ability.
But it's considerably slower against far more mobile vehicles >If you want to see real kekery a ptrs penal deathblob can wipe a panther in 2 seconds and two grenadier squads in 3.
This is garbage, an extremely inefficient squad that only a moron could lose against. Not only penals are an extremely expensive squad, but for a Wehrmacht player to lose a Panther to penal PTRS that means he must let a mass of infantry close enough for that to happen, a scenario that would never unless he overcommitted with a rush chasing vehicles and didn't have infantry to cover the Panther retreat
damn, i never thought about it like that. but i also never was a meta gamer in coh2. i just played it for fun. i always skip t-34's because of how unreliable they are to me. i'm more about surviving until i get to su-85 lmao >If you want to see real kekery a ptrs penal deathblob can wipe a panther in 2 seconds and two grenadier squads in 3.
bruh no way? i had no idea
The T-34 is far more efficient in popcap and comes close enough to be a considerable manpower strain. Waiting for a T-34-85 can gives Panzer IV potentially several minutes with no opposing medium tank in the field unless the Sov player went for SU-76
T-34 x SU-85 is THE meta
>The long range advantage means it's the Soviet player that has to put the utmost care in engaging. If you get jumped at by conscripts at long range either you suck at knowing/predicting enemy movements or you overcommitted to a position you couldn't mantain
can't you just rush a gren squad with conscripts and that way win in "melee"? >T-34 x SU-85 is THE meta
yeah i know. i watched some tournament back in 2020 and the soviets always went t-34-85 and a su-85. just not my style lmao
If the Wehrmacht player is good, he is either aware of the enemies arriving and placed grenadiers in a covered spot, or he'll make them stop/take cover right away.
On a 1vs1 matchup this would be a disaster for conscripts as they lose possibly 2 entities. At that point the whole matchup is snowballing in favour of grenadiers
The smart Soviet player that wants to counter a long range unit can use oorah, break line of sight or smoke mortars, or even get a squad closer while leaving conscripts in green cover distract them, only for them to advance once the grenadiers turned their attenction towards the new unit, rather than having conscripts run on a field under heavy fire, that would be a disaster
>can't you just rush a gren squad with conscripts and that way win in "melee"?
That doesn't always work because you take too much damage closing in. The real problem is that conscripts always lose 1v1 to volksgrenadiers even in heavy cover
Eh frick right off you werent there for release CoH2 where Soviets regularly got dumpstered by Wehr players because everything the Soviets had the Germans had but significantly better
> Decent at CQC and long range > High vet > Recon > Excelent stealth
The fact that its recon, has good vet/fire power and excepcional stealth means its great for proving defenses and infiltrating enemy lines. I love using them to destroy mortars and stablishing beachheads without your enemy realizing it.
fall sounds like fall, schirm is pronounced like the 'shrim' in shrimp, no one cares about jaeger because he's the worst shounen protagonist in recent memory so we just ignore that part of the word
I like the idea of having long range artillery like that, but are they actually effective? I tend to go with the anti-vehicle walkers and the flamethrower thingies
The same way you counter them with every faction, coordinating efficientky multiple units to drain the blobs through careful usage of cover and only ever engaging the enemy when you can do it from multiple angles or with multiple units
Obers can just run to the maxims and kill them before getting suppressed
>Obers can just run to the maxims and kill them before getting suppressed
If Obersoldaten can just run to a Maxim you failed. Especially at that stage, where is your infantry?
>If Obersoldaten can just run to a Maxim you failed. Especially at that stage, where is your infantry?
What do you mean? If obers fight conscripts outside mg range they kill them and if they go to mg range they deathloop the gunner(s)
The only reason obers can deathloop the maxim is that you don't screen it with supporting infantry. Spotting infantry gives any MG 5 more range than infantry, and a squad can't rush and focus fire an mg while going through vet 3 conscripts anyway, so combined arms shut down this easily
If you try to build a comp that has cons spotting and maxims behind, you have a very stiff composition that is hard to move. OKW player either flanks you or uses indirect fire to kill you since you can't push him. Just imagine pushing into obers with heavy cover agains cons
None of this exists in isolation and maxims and conscripts can engage at long range enemy infantry. There's also tanks and explosives.
Vet 3 conscripts also have quite the resilience and the ability to oorah into the enemy and deny them cover with molotov, making maxims extremely effective, at which point a really good OKW player would have the reflexes to quickly throw toxic smoke to cover line of sight and soft retreat, or have to retreat
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god i fricking hate toxic smoke
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>None of this exists in isolation and maxims and conscripts can engage at long range enemy infantry.
And obers win every fight at long range
Love the Power Armor design from Starcraft.
In fact, all Terran units have top tier design.
I never grow bored watching the base upgrade itself. Love building animations
out of all my 600 hrs in team games. i didn't come across this once. i think the kind of people that still play this far into the games life span aren't the normal kind of moronic mongrels that you run into normally in every popular game. just saying
just saying I don't like metaslaves. the expert AI sneaking C4 is annoying enough
>just saying I don't like metaslaves
now i don't know jack shit about what the meta is. but i don't feel like i came across any "metaslaves" in all my playtime. no one takes 3v3/4v4's seriously dude
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why does it bother you that I play AI ? you wanna feel competitive ? go play some pve games like cata vermintide 2
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simply want to enlighten you to the saying "there is no prey like man". battling the AI just isn't the same and it never has been for me
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>enlighten
lol ok I see, last (you) from me then. PvP players sucking their own dick I swear
tell me about the stug. when do you get it and what is it good against? is it all purpose or some shit? i remember this frickers giving me kind of a hard time, but nothing a su-85 couldn't fix
All purpose, reliably kills everything except the heaviest tanks but get on their flanks and they'll die like the rest. Turns around faster than turrets on most tanks. Lives and dies by it's tracks (don't lose tracks)
>play as Britain with the Valour mod >never have problems with StuGs because every single tank (and some things that are not tanks) has a 6-pounder strapped to it
checked two wikis but none of them confirmed that. it can deploy though and become a mini artillery piece. which i've never seen personally even though i kept running into them
I said I like to play against bots, you're the one with an ego. I like cooperation
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i just find it sad that people play vs bots, that's all. you can coop with people in team matches, that's what they are
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nope I don't want to inflict and get inflicted with pettiness on a vidya. I did my part in games with that enough
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out of all my 600 hrs in team games. i didn't come across this once. i think the kind of people that still play this far into the games life span aren't the normal kind of moronic mongrels that you run into normally in every popular game. just saying
Stompin......KOOPAS
what? what's that a reference to?
Skipan?
The Monaspa because it's strong as fuk
i stopped touching aoe2 back in 2016. what faction does this unit belong to?
I think it's Armenian.
looked it up, they belong to georgia. man aoe2 has come far if something as underground as georgia is in the game by now
The DE factions are pretty good.
Georgians, it's one of the new civs along with the Armenians
How are the CoH 2 servers in comparison to the first game?
last time i played coh2 was last year. had no problems but i also live in sweden where the internet is super good by default
haven't touched 1 sicne i pirated it at launch tho lol
I really wish I have liked that game.
Men of war assault squad 2 is good too but most of the players are from other continent, so laggy.
Obligatory
based. shame how they make every other unit in the game useless though. that was always my gripe with the game
>RTS
>YARI ASHIGARU GOZAIMASU
>YARIS, AT ZA READY SAH
DA REVY IS LEADY, SAH!
SPEARS TO ZA CORE (FALL?)
i think it's "to the fore"
shogun 2 is such a bore because yari can literally carry you through legendary
100%. i also hate the realm divide mechanic. don't get me started about the fact if you go with anything outsdie of ashigarus you go broke immediately
My fav is armusturongo prostitute
>get two parrot guns in an army
>arguably win the game now that i can hit attacking units with shells and grapeshot
>free comfy period where my army watches the first two gates or so to a castle fall to my artillery
>3 for a good ratio, and armstrongs if I want to feel bougie
Nothing has felt better than FOTS artillery.
Dr. Gatling's guns!
for me it's the hop lee tay phalanx
>no shield
ngmi
didn't they pronounce it hoplite as it's spelled in rome 1 though? i'm pretty sure they did
Having 6+ of these launching rocket barrages
based. love the katyusha. it's fricking iconic. 6 of them are a "bit" overkill though lmao
Not in team games
lmfao fair point i guess. good luck keeping all of them alive tho lmao
thinking about the record k/d games I've had nuking blobs with four of these things
i had a game 5 years ago where i blew up like 4-6 inf units with one satchel charge lmao
i think the dude was a ultra noob lol
The one and only but lately the Hussite Wagon won a place in my heart too.
I really wish the Hussite Wagon was better
It's a unit that's supposed to be strong vs ranged attacks but it bends like paper against Mangudais
To be fair, mangudai are specifically meant to be counter siege.
Well you can roll most siege weapons against a group of Mangudais they will frick them up sidweways. I like the wagon mostly for the
>oh he's gonna rush me with monks better prep-
>roll with an army of Wagons, Pikes and Houfnices blasting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr7JBuI3-3I
The Hussite campaign is my favorite so far alongside Pachacuti, the Kamayuk + Slinger combo is great.
The most kino depiction of a paladin ever
explain
Old rugged man with big maul. Utilizes holy spells and buffs allies, can even resurrect the dead.
right. i'm more all about omniknight from dota 2
how is she used?
Never played C&C? She's a powerful commando that can 1v1 nearly anything
i think i played some skirmish matches at a internet café but i barely touched the japanese
As a human toilet
>MORTAR
>VIPER
>HOVER
HELL YEAH
BREAK THEIR BACKS!
BRBRBRBRBRBBRBRBBRBR!
STAY MY HAND AGAIN AND YOU MAY LOSE YOURS
DoW2 has some kino quotes
I love this crazy homie
DoW2 has such kino voice acting and unit chatter. It's a shame the campaign is some of the worst bullshit I've ever seen in an RTS or tactics game. Broken AI half the time. Enemy units with 4x as much HP as you so you have to abuse Cyrus sniping the entire map which takes 2 hours. Thaddeus being fricking useless because he gets gibbed the second he lands.
WORTHY OF A GOD'S ATTENTION AM I?!
ENTER
>shoots and scoots
Heh nothing personel slowpoke
are the normal horse archers ever popular tho? i get if you're playing the huns or mongols and use their unique unit. but the normal horse archers?
WITNESS
YOUR
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
black Pill me on CoH3
It's shit (just like 2).
hey, 2 is fun. it's the only CoH i've dumped hours into
But 2 is great?
Yeah 10+ years later
CoH2 was miserable when it first released (same as CoH3)
thought this thread would get a lot more traction. the starcraft thread does
space marine
based. always loved the terran marine. such a staple
>Ruin the kino bulky industrial power armor design of the first game with stupid as frick WA3 blob designs
I fricking hate Blizzard so much.
DANCE HUMIE
DAAAAAANCE
I refuse to give him shoes. He must suffer.
>I suppose you need CANNON FODDER!
i have no idea how this unit is S tier. they're worse than conscripts no?
you can count on osttruppen
no really, you can
You can upgrade them faster than cons
that's it?
they tie down vehicles easy with panzerfaust
ah, i forgot they were equipped with the panzerfaust. i hopped back on CoH2 last year and realised that even conscripts got a AT grenade now. just took like what? 10 years? but the panzerfaust and the AT grenade has the same function
Cons struggle until they get the 7man upgrade
wouldn't be fun if they weren't struggling tbh. i love light infantry
so, why are osttruppen your fav rts unit?
they are cheap, have anti tank, great anti infantry, can build trenches
fair enough. not enough of a motivator for me tbh. beacuse "cheaper" in these types of games means they cost like 10% less than other normal units and shit which just doesn't move me mentally exactly
eh I can understand. Try them once they are fun. Any EUW players btw ?
i'm in sweden so me
I hate your country work ethic. my friendcode : 183408238
sorry, i don't add people from Ganker anymore. even though i haven't been gaming for a while and am not gonna start anytime soon
They give the enemy the AT your guys drop too.
wdym? that osttruppen drops AT weapons?
hand cannoneer in aoe2, marine in scbw/sc2, riflemen in coh2, basically any man with a gun against the world. bonus points if he's American.
based line infantry enjoyer. i'm the same. hence my penal battalion admission in the OP
i always found it too unwieldy for me. way too slow, way too vulnerable for its size and way too late to get them. i prefer the normal medium tank destroyer. that one can still fight every form of tank
su76 or su85?
both are fun
su85. if su76 is the light tank destroyer with the artillery barrage ability. that shit gets useless really quickly
I miss when it fired a round that nuked infantry and penned German tanks without having to swap
even with ammo swap it can still damage mediums just fine
it's the heaviest class tank that is also a tank destroyer. it better be able to lmao
NOBODY HERE BUT US TREES
these guys are the bane of my expert AI fights, they melt infantry even before pulling the C4.
Fav units is this lad because he boosts everyone, calls strikes and can even force rockets batteries to shoot again.
You know they won't make a game like this today because the krauts have normal conversation
i've always been in love with the idea of anti infantry infantry. even more so if they're not heavy infantry because at that point, it's the end all be all which makes it not as much fun. they've also got kino lines which makes it even better
funnily the french va is the same dude that dubs Hawkeye. I also love the fallschirmjägers
you mean the french VA for penal battalions?
and yeah fallschirmjägers are based too. a nightmare to deal with iirc
the arti dude, the penal is also funny because the hatred in the leader voice is palpable especially when he shouts I FRICKING FED UP WITH THAT SHIT
>Fav units is this lad because he boosts everyone, calls strikes and can even force rockets batteries to shoot again.
based, i used to main the commissar command squad. basically fills the same function as your fav unit
I used to like this guy but I find his abilities lacking
what's the difference between those two you submitted?
first is from the normal germans and the second is from the obercommandos. The first has good infantry boost and mortar strike the second has good veterancy unlokcs like 5 squads and an STG but his debuff abilities aren't great
right right
OKW vs Wehrmacht
>officer reporting
playing as notWittman in villers bocage was pretty kino
Practically every unit from Battle Realms. They had this chunkiness to them and you had to individually train them from peasants so each one was valuable. Also, that seamless choice between good and evil in the campaign at the very start.
damn, a battle realms player. never would've imagined. is that game even attainable nowadays?
Zen version is still in limbo on Steam, but you can get the OG + Winter of the Wolf on GOG.
thanks
I shill this excellent mod : https://www.coh2.org/news/110870/better-info-mod
annoying fact : the retreat point for the oberkommando slows the reinforce speed down to a crawl when you enable it
>the retreat point
how does that work?
the third thing for the oberkommando West first building. Allows your units to fall back to its location and not your spawn. useful but it makes it so any reinforcement from this building is slowed (to something around 60% I'd say). One of if not the only upgrade with a downside
wait, what's the difference between retreating to your hq compared to that building instead? wouldn't they be located next to each other or some shit?
t. i don't remember at all how OKW played or built lol
oh ok I thought you were trolling. The perk/ curse of the Ober is the fact you have to turn trucks into buildings : it allows you to park your unit prod buildings wherevever you want so you could park this truck next to a star point and then enable retreat from here. It makes you avoid having to make you unit walk from the spawn all over again
right, that's how they worked. tbf in all my 500+ hrs of playtime. i don't think i ever saw anyone park their production building anywhere outside of their base
really ? They are cowards then. I usually park them halfway (they get destroyed a few times too lol)
tbf it's very risky. i also only play 3v3 or 4v4 lmao. so there's more variables to account for
I tend to go ougabouga with the obers tbh. I like going ultra agressive
that's fair
How? Usually they park at least their gun truck to the cutoff point
THE GUN TRUCK! frick i forgot about that completely. yeah that one tends to camp star points lol
>DRIVE THEM BACK
>places a mine in your retreat path
>wipes out the remaining models
l2recon lmaooo
I remember when they were just panzergrenadiers at T0 that built better barbed wire, had better repairs and could 1v1 every single T0 T1 and unupgraded T2 infantry out there
holy shit, talk about unbalanced
and that was in the time when you could put binocs on the Elefant
>put binocs on the Elefant
bruh, tf were they thinking lmao
eh who am i kidding. these are the people who at launch thought your anti vehicle move was supposed to be penal battalions slinging a normal satchel charge at a tank lmao
Idk why a heavy cav faction has such good crossbowmen. Aventurier sounds so cool too, luv these homies they shot so many knights for me.
based. aventuriers and scots guard were kino. i was more prone to yeomen archers personally
Baby me had quite a few agincourt moments when I first did a french campaign and had to fight the english. Longbows are no joke.
100%
>Play Oberkommando
>Enemy soviet player spams support weapons/mgs on a map with mostly choke points
>Remember OKW has very limited or effective options of deal with this
I hate having to spam IFGs is not fun at all.
soviet player spams support weapons/mgs on a map with mostly choke points
OKW has very limited or effective options of deal with this
you have 5 men infantry squads that are good at close range and can take headon mgs in green cover, and 4 men stg44 squads. You can also use a kubelwagen that can easily run past mgs and cap cutoffs, forcing the player to reroute mgs or invest infantry squads and either way you can coordinate its escape to dismantle mgs with infantry rushes
So skill issue
>playing against players
Nah that's too cancer
coh1 blitzkrieg > company of slop 2
am waiting for a sale to buy the first one
You literally just missed one last week.
Krogoth motherfrickers ww@
How do I git gud at RTS games, bros? My father is great, but I just suck at them.
Depends, what RTS?
Let's say Age of Empires 2
Eh, AoE is one I'm not that familiar with but generally a lot of it boils down to cutting your opponents resources away while keeping the pressure up by building your resources and units.
Just learn basic scout rush and archer rush and keep your TC idle time at 0
years of experience and practice to recognize and execute what will give you the best win % in any situation.
or just play how you want. go freestyle or learn a couple buildorders and tweak them to your playstyle.
Are you going to play against human players or are you satisfied with solo campaigns/skirmishes?
A dear friend of mine keeps beating me whenever we play, but I'm fine with just the basics.
It's all about the right mindset
Against computer even a monkey could do it
Against players you need to learn a few basic general rules. RTS isn't just about build orders, it's mostly about tactics, risk management, knowing when to committ to a fight, to engage in your own terms and having an understanding of ranges, baiting, hotkeys and coordination between multiple units
The knights always feel good in that game too
I always raced to Nano Age coz the mech warfare was so mind blowing to young me
>Walk softly...and carry a big gun
>Accept our malediction.
>We are one with the Emperor, and the will of Man
i've always been a sucker for the generic line infantry of the imperial guard. massed firepower
remind me where you can serve if it's not in combat, conscript ?
what?
in the firing line !
Soviet in CoH2 is overpowered as shit. They are good at everything. Even conscript can beat grenadier in a straight up fight if they get close. The T-70 is good against both vehicles and weapons while Axis has nothing of that caliber (except OKW Puma but that requires a healing skip). T-34 may be shit compared to Panzer but it's cheap and shit all over infantry. SU-85 can shoot from across the map and has self-spotting ability. If you want to see real kekery a ptrs penal deathblob can wipe a panther in 2 seconds and two grenadier squads in 3.
damn, i never thought about it like that. but i also never was a meta gamer in coh2. i just played it for fun. i always skip t-34's because of how unreliable they are to me. i'm more about surviving until i get to su-85 lmao
>If you want to see real kekery a ptrs penal deathblob can wipe a panther in 2 seconds and two grenadier squads in 3.
bruh no way? i had no idea
>Soviet in CoH2 is overpowered as shit. They are good at everything. Even conscript can beat grenadier in a straight up fight if they get close.
The long range advantage means it's the Soviet player that has to put the utmost care in engaging. If you get jumped at by conscripts at long range either you suck at knowing/predicting enemy movements or you overcommitted to a position you couldn't mantain
>The T-70 is good against both vehicles and weapons while Axis has nothing of that caliber (except OKW Puma but that requires a healing skip).
The T-70 comes considerably later than the 222 and is a direct counter to that. By that time Wehrmacht can pull out Pak42 and is going to get a Panzer 4 in 5 minutes
>T-34 may be shit compared to Panzer but it's cheap and shit all over infantry.
That's his job, yes
>SU-85 can shoot from across the map and has self-spotting ability.
But it's considerably slower against far more mobile vehicles
>If you want to see real kekery a ptrs penal deathblob can wipe a panther in 2 seconds and two grenadier squads in 3.
This is garbage, an extremely inefficient squad that only a moron could lose against. Not only penals are an extremely expensive squad, but for a Wehrmacht player to lose a Panther to penal PTRS that means he must let a mass of infantry close enough for that to happen, a scenario that would never unless he overcommitted with a rush chasing vehicles and didn't have infantry to cover the Panther retreat
The T-34 is far more efficient in popcap and comes close enough to be a considerable manpower strain. Waiting for a T-34-85 can gives Panzer IV potentially several minutes with no opposing medium tank in the field unless the Sov player went for SU-76
T-34 x SU-85 is THE meta
>The long range advantage means it's the Soviet player that has to put the utmost care in engaging. If you get jumped at by conscripts at long range either you suck at knowing/predicting enemy movements or you overcommitted to a position you couldn't mantain
can't you just rush a gren squad with conscripts and that way win in "melee"?
>T-34 x SU-85 is THE meta
yeah i know. i watched some tournament back in 2020 and the soviets always went t-34-85 and a su-85. just not my style lmao
If the Wehrmacht player is good, he is either aware of the enemies arriving and placed grenadiers in a covered spot, or he'll make them stop/take cover right away.
On a 1vs1 matchup this would be a disaster for conscripts as they lose possibly 2 entities. At that point the whole matchup is snowballing in favour of grenadiers
The smart Soviet player that wants to counter a long range unit can use oorah, break line of sight or smoke mortars, or even get a squad closer while leaving conscripts in green cover distract them, only for them to advance once the grenadiers turned their attenction towards the new unit, rather than having conscripts run on a field under heavy fire, that would be a disaster
thanks for explaining. it's been 5-6 years since i played actively so i've forgotten all this
>can't you just rush a gren squad with conscripts and that way win in "melee"?
That doesn't always work because you take too much damage closing in. The real problem is that conscripts always lose 1v1 to volksgrenadiers even in heavy cover
Yet all factions have about 50% wr, fluctuating a bit depending on the map
wehraboo tears are delicious even after all these years
Eh frick right off you werent there for release CoH2 where Soviets regularly got dumpstered by Wehr players because everything the Soviets had the Germans had but significantly better
is that the guy who played Mario from the Super Mario Bros. movie?
Bow down before the avatar
>SHATTER THEIR SKIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEES
that line goes so fricking hard
>0:51
fake fans, the line is SHATTER THEIR SKYYYYYYY (singular)
report to your nearest commissar for summary BLAMification
>my spleeeen
> Decent at CQC and long range
> High vet
> Recon
> Excelent stealth
The fact that its recon, has good vet/fire power and excepcional stealth means its great for proving defenses and infiltrating enemy lines. I love using them to destroy mortars and stablishing beachheads without your enemy realizing it.
i don't recognize the game. what is that pic from?
Its Stell division 2. The game used to be super fun a few months ago but the current meta is complete cancer so i woudnt recomend palying it.
isn't steel division a old game?
SD2 released in 2019 though it has been reciving DLC updates
>someone on Ganker plays sd2
im surprised.
COH1 upgraded fall of shrimp
The FG42s melt infantry so fast it's not even funny
>fall of shrimp
bruh, wth do you mean by that? english mfer PLEASE
Fallschirmjaeger
>english mfer PLEASE
das ist vas?
how the hell do you get fall of shrimp to fallschirmjaeger? genuinenly curious
it's a joke on phonetics, it isn't hard to get
Das ist mir Wurst
fall sounds like fall, schirm is pronounced like the 'shrim' in shrimp, no one cares about jaeger because he's the worst shounen protagonist in recent memory so we just ignore that part of the word
fricking kingshit
frick you homosexual, penal spammers are c**ts, you should be shitting out shocks like a man
nah frick that. penal battalions are kino tier. shock troopers are gay and trivializes shit way too much for me
how are people using penals c**ts but not people using shock troopers?
because they can't damage my tanks
in reality, spamming nothing but conscripts is hyperchad level gameplay
i don't do ptrs penals. i prefer them being fully committed to anti inf duty. i also like spamming conscripts. love light/medium inf. that's my jam
I just build 3 mg42's and you are baselocked
shatter their skies!
I like the idea of having long range artillery like that, but are they actually effective? I tend to go with the anti-vehicle walkers and the flamethrower thingies
>are they actually effective
they disrupt the shit out of enemy infantry
you mean to tell me you don't already equip all the guardsmen with granade launchers for that exact reason?
They're like grenade launchers times 10.
>our strategy?
>100% production on conscripts and t34s
How do I counter blobs with soviets?
machineguns + mortars
use tanks if they haven't got panzerschreks, if they do then just fall back on machineguns + mortars
Obers can just run to the maxims and kill them before getting suppressed
in my experience in 3v3's and 4v4's. there's always panzerschreck blobs ;-;
The same way you counter them with every faction, coordinating efficientky multiple units to drain the blobs through careful usage of cover and only ever engaging the enemy when you can do it from multiple angles or with multiple units
>Obers can just run to the maxims and kill them before getting suppressed
If Obersoldaten can just run to a Maxim you failed. Especially at that stage, where is your infantry?
>If Obersoldaten can just run to a Maxim you failed. Especially at that stage, where is your infantry?
What do you mean? If obers fight conscripts outside mg range they kill them and if they go to mg range they deathloop the gunner(s)
The only reason obers can deathloop the maxim is that you don't screen it with supporting infantry. Spotting infantry gives any MG 5 more range than infantry, and a squad can't rush and focus fire an mg while going through vet 3 conscripts anyway, so combined arms shut down this easily
If you try to build a comp that has cons spotting and maxims behind, you have a very stiff composition that is hard to move. OKW player either flanks you or uses indirect fire to kill you since you can't push him. Just imagine pushing into obers with heavy cover agains cons
None of this exists in isolation and maxims and conscripts can engage at long range enemy infantry. There's also tanks and explosives.
Vet 3 conscripts also have quite the resilience and the ability to oorah into the enemy and deny them cover with molotov, making maxims extremely effective, at which point a really good OKW player would have the reflexes to quickly throw toxic smoke to cover line of sight and soft retreat, or have to retreat
god i fricking hate toxic smoke
>None of this exists in isolation and maxims and conscripts can engage at long range enemy infantry.
And obers win every fight at long range
the best
>DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO?
remind me, who is sanity for again?
the week
ah, thank you for clearing that up for me
we go crazy on the weekends
kek
I never grow bored watching the base upgrade itself. Love building animations
just saying I don't like metaslaves. the expert AI sneaking C4 is annoying enough
>just saying I don't like metaslaves
now i don't know jack shit about what the meta is. but i don't feel like i came across any "metaslaves" in all my playtime. no one takes 3v3/4v4's seriously dude
why does it bother you that I play AI ? you wanna feel competitive ? go play some pve games like cata vermintide 2
simply want to enlighten you to the saying "there is no prey like man". battling the AI just isn't the same and it never has been for me
>enlighten
lol ok I see, last (you) from me then. PvP players sucking their own dick I swear
i tried. you do you dude
THE WEAK
WE IZ THE SHOOTIEST
DANCE HUMIE DANCE
"What's that gunner thinking?! Kill the stupid bastard!"
-COH 2 Sherman
Coh2 USF had the best voice lines. The riflemen were so real. Engineers were great too.
GHOST REPORTIN
FINALLY
CALL THE SHOT
IM GONE
NEVER KNOW WHAT HIT EM
Sex
well rip thread. thanks for showing up everyone
always love a nice RTS thread.
then bump it for me brother
all threads have to die eventually, jack. better to die after some fun posting than bump it for the next couple hours on life support.
BUT I WANT TO LIIIIIVE
The queen from sc2
>runs 3 meters and then pukes... just like me
-10+ year old quote from day9
I just think they're neat, there's real weight behind their animations
I didn't choose StuG life
StuG life chose me
fricking love these casemate tank destroyers, they're cheap, have good enough protection to take hits from 75mm and pack a whallop
tell me about the stug. when do you get it and what is it good against? is it all purpose or some shit? i remember this frickers giving me kind of a hard time, but nothing a su-85 couldn't fix
All purpose, reliably kills everything except the heaviest tanks but get on their flanks and they'll die like the rest. Turns around faster than turrets on most tanks. Lives and dies by it's tracks (don't lose tracks)
yeah alright fair
>play as Britain with the Valour mod
>never have problems with StuGs because every single tank (and some things that are not tanks) has a 6-pounder strapped to it
neat concept, unique mechanics, good for making people rage in multiplayer
this unit is shit though. it was pretty clear they had no idea what to do with it
idc, it's kino. fav unit
as commanded
Based
Learning that nets frick up tinker made her my favorite back in the trenches
boring tbh, literally just grind farm. i need more action in my playstyle
literally nothing makes me happier in life than hitting creeps
yawn. i don't get moved unless i rally the rabble into a offensive
can this moron tank still shoot through walls when deployed
checked two wikis but none of them confirmed that. it can deploy though and become a mini artillery piece. which i've never seen personally even though i kept running into them
it was seen as a bit suicidal because it had a decently bad timer on going mobile
yeah, hunkering down tends to be that
Time for you to find out and report back anon
>search for R.U.S.E. game on google image
>mistakenly typed R.U.S.E. gape
>dad was in the room
what does searching for ruse gape lead to? i'm not poisoning my eyes with that
just had a one hour COH2 expert game where I managed to turn my command tank to level 5
play 3v3 or 4v4's they're as casual as they get and a lot more satisfying than battling the AI
I hate playing against peoples they use c**t technique am here to shoot
bridge battles tends to get ultra shitters so you won't come across those types of tactics. that's what i play
so killing noobs ? Even more annoying, if I wanted this kind of crap I'd go play league
damn, you're hard to please
I said I like to play against bots, you're the one with an ego. I like cooperation
i just find it sad that people play vs bots, that's all. you can coop with people in team matches, that's what they are
nope I don't want to inflict and get inflicted with pettiness on a vidya. I did my part in games with that enough
out of all my 600 hrs in team games. i didn't come across this once. i think the kind of people that still play this far into the games life span aren't the normal kind of moronic mongrels that you run into normally in every popular game. just saying
Love the Power Armor design from Starcraft.
In fact, all Terran units have top tier design.
totally not a ripoff
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TIL BARDAGA
Me and this guy are ride or die.
more like, die and ride