>Get's away with commiting genocide
How did she do it?
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Sex with buns.
>Warrior of Light FINALLY gets a fan girl madly in love with him
>she's a super hot geeky black bunny girl who loves sunglasses
>she will never appear ever again
I DEMAND HER BACK.
>Warrior of Light FINALLY gets a fan girl madly in love with him
Alisaie
Another, then.
>Warrior of Light FINALLY gets a fan girl madly in love with him
Y'shtola, then.
>LILJA, MERYALL,DUNBARR, CLARICE
GREAT WAIFUS GOOD JOB MATSUNO
>MISIJA
WHAT THE FRICK IS WRONG WITH YOU YOU SHITTY HACK. THIS IS AWFUL KYS YOU FAILURE OF A HUMAN BEING
>GABRANTH, DUSKWIGHT EVIL GUY, FIRE WIZARD ELEZEN
SNORRRRRREEEEEEE
>LYON, PAPAGA, FAT PIG GUY BEAST TAMER
KINO GIVE ME MORE.
matsunos needs a tard wrangler and is still shit with one.
I want a lalawife
>why yes im a pedo how could you tell?
same
I reject everyone who gives up on trying to blend in with the normalgays (after having a fallout) and tries to hook up with my Lala because now they have nothing socially to lose.
It's either me or them I am NOT your secret
She committed the opposite if genocide if there is even a word or phrase for that.
She duplicated a small race of dying people x14
Shut the frick up, seriously shut the FRICK up. Did you know I've had to go to THERAPY because of what she did to the Ancients? Watching her kill off her own people was like watching MY own people (autists and other neurotypicals, like me) be killed.
How were these people able to survive for this long?
>THERAPY because of a videogame
>was like watching MY own people (autists and other neurotypicals, like me) be killed.
Or rather, fixed in this case
She literally committed genocide, though. Those people and their consciousness no longer existed, brand new people were created FROM what used to be the people she genocided. The reflections being their own people and identity was a big plot point.
No, their memories were fragmented but they were still the same people. They even made cave paintings of what bits they remembered.
>if you bonk your head and get amnesia you're dead
More like if you bonk your head and you're left a barely-functioning moron who can't even eat on their own anymore, then you're dead.
give me your current savage memes blease
WEBS LIKE ONTO CHAINS!
=-=--
>creating 13 copies of something is genocide
Now her forcing you to perma her ass when she was the only thing keeping the shards from trying to rejoin with the Source is a completely different matter
>creating 13 copies of somethin
Why is it you believe Emet-Selch only when it's convenient?
So am I supposed to just ignore what the game states and believe some moron's headcanon instead?
You're supposed to pay attention when something is elaborated on later. Are you also one of those people that goes "THE SOUND CAME FROM INSIDE THE PLANET BRO"?
Feel free to point out where it is stated in-game that Venat killed off the Ancients
nta, but see
it's genocide in every way that matters.
I don't see them anywhere. If your lifespan was reduced so that you only lived a week, you wouldn't consider that killing you?
If your initial lifespan was destroying the universe, and it is shortened to save it for your children and the world they live in...?
>If your initial lifespan was destroying the universe,
It wasn't their lifespan doing that.
>If that one week felt like an entire lifetime no I wouldn't.
Isn't part of this argument that they were supposed to be copies and retained their memories unlike what Emet says in the colab? Meaning it wouldn't feel like a lifetime, it would feel like you were aging a million years in a week.
>the collab
If it isn't stated in-game it's headcanon.
It's written by Banri Oda. Cope.
So your argument that it would feel like a proper lifetime to them is wrong then?
Sure
>If your lifespan was reduced so that you only lived a week, you wouldn't consider that killing you?
If that one week felt like an entire lifetime no I wouldn't.
Four legs good, two legs bad
why did final fantasy xiv (14) die?
because of people like
and
Thread theme:
now post jessica
Have any spoilers been posted yet or is this just attention gayging?
>100 gb minimum
I hate modern gaming.
100gb is like 0.01% of my storage. Why do you still have a hard drive from 2010, anon?
>immense eikon battles
so tekken style press 4 buttons
>dark fantasy world
so ChatGPT written story ok
>it's ok for Emit to commit genocide several times over because women want to frick him
>Venat arguably does it once for the sake of the world and future generations
>"NOOOOOOO SHE'S PURE EVIL STOP LIKING HER!"
Ironic how Venat was written by a woman, a fujo no less. Mind that's probably why she was killed off but still.
Personally I'd want the planet to go extinct along with the human race if a similar thing happened here, rather than humans being killed off so pigs could inherit the world.
Venat did nothing wrong.
>not snapping Hermes neck
Venat did one thing wrong.
I love my mom, regardless of whether she may or may not have been partially responsible for the sundering if billions
>p12 music fits perfectly for rp venues
Why is Square full of homosexuals?
to counter-balance the game being full of trannies
yin and yang type of thing
They make good music, you just play the wrong game.
>Venat commits genocide
>Has to reseed the planet because the ancients died
>Has to uplift her tiny cute mortals again and again
>Emet Selch can just summon the angry dead to rape Hydaelyn
OR
>Ancients are depowered and 14x'd then just move on with their non-magic lived
Occam's Razor, use it. Forgetting that shit was exactly how Hermes caused this 12000 years bird shitstorm.
are depowered and 14x'd
Not what happens. Emet tells us that the Sundered had basically no knowledge at first, that they couldn't even speak. It's not like you getting cloned, it's like you getting a lobotomy and then cut into 14 still-living pieces, then dying and being reborn in the body of a monkey. There's nothing that's actually YOU left from the moment of the lobotomy because everything that makes you who you are is gone, and after your first death you can't even be considered a human anymore.
>Unreliable narrator
Yeah, he also said that Amaurot days were Paradise on earth and the second I step on Elpis I see ancients getting tentacle raped by morbols and his own ugly mug trying to avert my eyes.
>Unreliable narrator
In these scenes Emet isn't lying to you. The actual condition and capabilities of the freshly-sundered is an objective mater, so we can take his word on it. The issue with Amaurot is that 'paradise' and 'utopia' is subjective. We're hearing his opinion there, and thus we can only take his word that he saw it as a paradise, not that it objectively was one. It's a completely different situation. You cannot 'only see them as literally not remembering how to talk'. They either objectively can or can't.
Emet is literally being the most racist and facist character AND being responsible of the MOST DEATHS in the whole run of FFXIV and then people go and believe him and call Venat a murderer, many such cases.
>AND being responsible of the MOST DEATHS in the whole run of FFXIV
When did Emet become Hermes?
Emet-Selch isn't the narrator in the content anon is talking about. The Nier collab gives a glimpse immediately after the sundering from a third party meta narrator.
>Emet tells us that the Sundered had basically no knowledge at first, that they couldn't even speak.
The same Emet that considered the Sundered to be no better than cattle? That Emet?
No, not that Emet because that Emet never considered the sundered to be subhuman. Emet-Selch deeply cared about the sundered, admired their arts, and had even fallen in love with them. His main drive for the rejoinings is that his heart keeps breaking every time the fricked up situation tears another person away from him. His line about considering sundered to be subhuman is a cope so he can continue on with the mission without feeling like a monster. moron.
Ah, it's the Emet "pack It up Amon, the quake oven stays on" Selch
Or was It Emet "drop the fetish dolls, time to put the world on chain and balls" Selch?
I think its Emet "If I see a cat Black person I pull the trigger" Selch.
Zodiark was a moron cope move that didn't address the problem and instead caused more, Venat at least made an attempt to find the source of the end days to put an end to it for good.
Venat was 100% in the right. plus shes hot
>Zodiark was a moron cope move
Venat supported the creation of Zodiark as well as the second sacrifice to fix the Lifestream. What she didn't support was the third sacrifice, because they were planning on doing something different which horrified her, that is never revealed to us.
>that is never revealed to us
Sacrificing other people and newborns to bring their old friends back.
>the source of the end days
didn't she put a tracker on the bird since the moment meteion revealed herself thousands of years ago?
Yes but she also got hit with that memory wipe machine. If it wasn't for Venat Meteion would still be singing Linkin Park at the edge of the universe.
What is the difference between Venat and this character? Answer: there is none.
Don't you have somewhere else to be stupid?
Venat did nothing wrong.
Athena is a psychotic, degenerate coalburner.
It's pretty much the antithesis of ideology brother.
Venat wants mankind to walk on their own, Athena wants to guide them.
Non canon, but savage's phase 2 is her literally sperging out and rewriting the rules of the universe to support her guidance once she's shown it's flawed, she refuses to accept she could make a mistake so the entire universe must be mistaken instead.
Venat and Athena couldn't be any less alike but I'm replying to a shitpost anyway.
>Venat wants mankind to walk on their own,
She wanted to guide them to a particular conclusion, of being able to withstand despair. I mean do you not remember when she shunted Minfilia off to the First and had her bodyjack dozens of little girls in order to artificially inject hope into their situation? That's the whole point of WoLs to begin with, to serve as her agents protecting and inspiring people.
She's obviously not Athena at all, but to say she wasn't guiding anyone is fricking dumb.
Athena can pussy whip a workaholic zombie. Venat is a dogfricker.
If the WoL hadnt found out about her skeletons in the closet they would have been calling Athena Mommy by now.
She is literally the anti-Venat, smarty.
That's why she was given blue eyes and why both of them had a maternal themes tied to them.
>they ordered us to go to the bomb shelter? FRICKING FASCISTS
>ordering people to give up their life to form a primal is the same as telling them to huddle in a bomb shelter to avoid a bombing
?????????????? moron-kun, is this the extent of your rhetorical pretzelling?
Also kind of overlooking the other bits.
>sought to perpetuate the cycle of sacrifice
>vowed to reap the new life they had sown
I know reading is hard for a certain group of people, though.
>?????????????? moron-kun, is this the extent of your rhetorical pretzelling?
Yes, my limit is obviously nonsense analogies meant to illustrate a point. Whereas you, the expert in twisting yourself into rhetorical pretzels, are the treasurer in charge of bullshitting your way with quarter-truths and ESL hyperbole.
Analogies kind of imply, I don't know... analogous situations. Not things that are completely incomparable.
>Whereas you, the expert in twisting yourself into rhetorical pretzels, are the treasurer in charge of bullshitting your way with quarter-truths and ESL hyperbole.
Cute "no you", though.
>Analogies kind of imply, I don't know... analogous situations. Not things that are completely incomparable
thatsthepoint.wav
Yeah, the point is that the two situations aren't comparable and therefore make for a poor analogy.
Yes dumbo, it's almost like a situation where 99% of the world is wiped out and the last remaining city needs to organize their own self sacrifice to summon a god to stop the apocalypse is a situation incomparable to anything else and trying to b***h about peer pressure in that environment is a joke.
What is the difference between Venat and this character? Answer: there is none
What is the difference between Venat and this character? Answer; there is none.
wtf i love venat now
What is the difference between Venat and this character? Answer; there is none
Venat killed countless people.
Asmon just killed his mom.
Washed
Up
Hack
What is the difference between Venat and this character?
Answer; there is none
Wasn't there talks of making FF14 playable for single player or something once the servers had to be shut down or something?
That's why they are adding trusts to every piece of content slowly over time.
What is the difference between Venat and this character?
Answer; there is none
That boss has to be the ugliest creature in existence.
That boss has to be the cutest creature in existence.
dood looks like a shark
:U
Why is the FFXIV forums conspiracy posting about this website? And who the frick are "Zodiark Trancers" they keep talking about?
>Trancers think Emetanon is this Renalt person
>They don't know who it really is
I'm almost tempted to out myself.
Hey Forum Black folk/Trancers, here's a hint, as I know you're reading this thread: I used to post in the "Whats the Point with that Quite lackluster story in Endwalker" and was one of the "critical" posters, not a story white knight let alone this Renalt gay or affiliated with them. I stopped posting on the forums completely last year. If you knew who I actually was you wouldn't even believe me.
You have no idea the enemies you Black folk have made, even amongst people once sympathetic to you, or even on your "side". If you want to know who really did you homosexuals and your little discord in I recommend that you look inwards and not outwards.
That's cool and all but take your homosexual little crusade back to /vg/ where it belongs.
What the frick, why would you post this. One archive search and I can instantly find you whining about some guy pulling "an illegal harassment" by posting your own discord messages, just like you yourself did.
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/427731243/#428089074
Are you brain damaged?
>linking to /vg/ posts
GO THE FRICK BACK HOLY SHIT NOBODY CARES
Frick off Trancer, nobody cares. Go suck a wiener you barahomosexual.
>Shilling Forspoken
.....Barry?
It's always Barry
Always
>spend a day and a half trying to get reclears on Primal
>hop over to Aether and get my reclears in the first hour
I guess this is the meta now
What's the difference between Venat and this character?
Answer; there is none
Why did no one tell me Bozja relic grind is worse than Eureka?
What is the difference between Venat and these characters?
Answer; there is none
ToT
Artist name?
There's two big differences.
>people replying in earnest to the trancer bullshit
lol
Nobody's trancing in this thread, hell I don't see anyone directly critical of what Venat did, only insisting on the magnitude of it. That it was horrible is something Venat agrees on, acknowledging it instead of whitewashing it isn't the same as saying Venat was wrong to do it or not.
There is a guy trancing but it's the EmetBlack person falseflagging so he can eventually link back to his writeups. He's absolutely obsessed with this fricking discord crusade of his and has to remind us every single day that he's there fighting the good fight on discord and the official forums.
Oh, you're talking about the drama shit. I'm ignoring that crap.
I want to repopulate the universe with Venat!
>Venat is arguably the best waifu in the game
>killed off forever
>from here on only worthwhile waifus are bosses and Yugiri whenever we go back to Japan
Meanwhile that homosexual G'raha will stalk us to the ends of the universe.
Nophica is best goddess.
bigger
The WoL is the one that told Venat about the sundering, therefore ~~*you*~~ are responsible for genocide.
Way to go, champ.
Timeloops are a b***h like that.
>Muh ancients weren't gonna sacrifice people as the Third Sacrifice, just plants animals goy
From Ere Our Curtain Falls: https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/tales_from_the_shadows/sidestory_07/
>'The people were divided, unable to decide what to do with the future that now stretched out before them. Many wished to trade the new life which had sprung forth to reclaim those lost in sacrifice to Zodiark. No small number, however, insisted that the fate of our world should be entrusted to those selfsame freshly minted souls. All were at our wits' end.
At once, we saw it, shimmering. It poured out of Zodiark's breast, and resolved into the shape of a man. As he looked us over─mouths agape, no doubt─he gave what passed for an earnest smile.
>"Fear...not... You will make...the right choice. And I will see it through."'
Trancers literally, forever, eternally BTFO'd. They were gonna sacrifice people, making lesser people but still people nonetheless and a large sum of Ancients (not just Venat) had took ethical issue with this (same people who btw had no issue with the first two sacrifices which were their own kind) and opposed the Convocation, which is in large part why Venat chose to Sunder the world. She, and her followers, wanted to entrust the future of the world to the new people's that had been born and did not believe it was morally justifiable to genocide them to bring back those who were already dead. That and of course because she knew her people were doomed and it was only the sundered who stood a chance to stop Meteion. So she commited Involuntary Mitosis upon all life in the world. The sundering didn't kill anyone, thereby it wasn't genocide before you go "MUH SUNDERING WAS GENOCIDE TOO"
There you go. Shut the frick up.
Frick off back to /vg/
>Many wished to trade the new life which had sprung forth to reclaim those lost in sacrifice to Zodiark. No small number, however, insisted that the fate of our world should be entrusted to those selfsame freshly minted souls
Why not just frick more and have babies instead of handing the world over to savage lesser races or killing them?
Because it was about their denial of what had happened and the reality of death. They got scared so shitless of death once it stopped being a matter of convenience that they decided they'd just totally frick the Lifestream to get their friends back and cope themselves to death. Anyway, don't respond to the Emetgay and his crusade homosexualry.
Oh I get the message, I'm just pointing out how silly it is that NONE of the Ancients thought about just having kids to revive their race, they only considered mass-sacrifice to bring back dead people or else just giving up and letting a bunch of cavemen take over.
It's because they weren't trying to revive their race, just their personal friends they'd lost. Just remember that the future souls they would have fed to Zodiark would have included potential unborn Ancients too. Even if they were going to trade living things and not just vague chunks of aether, a soul isn't locked into the same body for each reincarnation. A dead chocobo could end up becoming an Ancient in its next life.
I guess the point I'm making is that the Ancient's way of thinking was flawed in ways that not even Venat was immediately aware of, falling into herself.
Yeah, it makes them human. Although I think with Venat EW made it more a matter of "oh well I guess I'm just going to have to do this if I can't change their mind, it's already settled" rather than a rebel taking a gamble on what she believes to be right. Which in my opinion removes a lot of the human element from her decisions and makes her pretty boring to me.
I dunno, humans kinda just default to fricking a lot in times of high-stress. It more highlights how they're not human. Flawed in different ways.
Ancients must not have very high sex drives with their lifespans being so massive. Imagine how many kids you could have just in like 10,000 years.
>They got scared so shitless of death once it stopped being a matter of convenience
Were they supposed to react positively to the whole "we're being eaten by our own creations" thing that was happening during the Final Days?
No, but the fact is that their unhealthy view of death before the Final Days, that being that it wasn't death at all (the d-word is forbidden!) but a cozy retirement where everything is nice and happy and they all just can't wait to commit suicide, left them completely unable to deal with the reality of death when it hit. So instead of resolving to move forward and accept what had happened, they were mindbroken and decided to eat the Lifestream and ruin the cycle of life and death to maintain their fantasy.
>and they all just can't wait to commit suicide
Why do you people act like the Ancients were just throwing themselves from rooftops and shit? It was clearly stated that once they had done all they wanted to do in life they would choose to pass on. How is that supposed to be a negative thing?
Because there's implied societal pressure to do it. People treat Venat weirdly because she didn't KYS herself after she passed the mantle onto Azem. There's a lot of stuff about how weirdly strict, formal, and autistic the Ancients' culture was, where they basically pressure each other to be hyper-conformists without any individuality and to act as cogs in a machine that kill themselves when their usefulness is over, while also trying to suppress the emotions they clearly have.
The entire point is that it's supposed to be a clear exposure of the flaws of a "utopia," hence why half of the names and shit in it are references to Thomas More's "Utopia." It's a collectivist ideal with all of the horrors that implies. Individuality, freedom, and enjoyment are stamped out or seen as anti-social oddities that people shun. Everybody dresses the same, hides their features, hides their true selves, are referred to by title as often as by name, obsess over duty and try to hide their emotions, etc.
>There's a lot of stuff about how weirdly strict, formal, and autistic the Ancients' culture was, where they basically pressure each other to be hyper-conformists without any individuality and to act as cogs in a machine that kill themselves when their usefulness is over, while also trying to suppress the emotions they clearly have.
Hey why is it that critisizing this is fine but every time I bring up how Hingashi burns people at the stake and exterminates entire family lines for crimes they didn't commit, someone always comes out of the woodwork to say "they dindu nothin, muh age of blood can't come again by any means necessary".
I absolutely agree with you and it's why I think the second arc of Samurai quests is fricking dogshit and shits all over the first arc. It completely ignores what Musosai teaches you. It also stands against pretty much every single theme and message of the entire rest of the game. It's bizarre and dumb, probably the worst job questline in the game. At least Paladin's bullshit is them being idiots to each other and not supporting somebody that's objectively worse than the villain of Heavensward.
>not supporting somebody that's objectively worse than the villain of Heavensward.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
>but the fact is that their unhealthy view of death before the Final Days, that being that it wasn't death at all (the d-word is forbidden!) but a cozy retirement where everything is nice and happy and they all just can't wait to commit suicide,
But in the same breath you'll not only say that them refusing to just lay down and accept death is bad, but also that when they all had ego-death and prematurely died a million years before they hit old age, that wasn't "really dying" either.
>But in the same breath you'll not only say that them refusing to just lay down and accept death is bad
No? This is why it's impossible to talk to you gays. You keep on with this moronic shit where someone says the third sacrifice was an insane idea that would have killed everything, and you hear in your head "THEY SHOULD HAVE JUST DIED AND NEVER SUMMONED ZODIARK!!!" Not a single fricking person ANYWHERE argues that Zodiark wasn't necessary. They needed to live. The issue is what they decided to do after everything was fixed.
>but also that when they all had ego-death and prematurely died a million years before they hit old age, that wasn't "really dying" either.
This is a semantics argument about which definition of genocide you're using, as I mentioned earlier in the thread. Nobody is arguing that they didn't suffer immensely. The argument is about whether ego death/cultural destruction counts as genocide.
>"THEY SHOULD HAVE JUST DIED AND NEVER SUMMONED ZODIARK!!!"
That's not what I said. You said they should
>[move] forward and accept what had happened,
IE those sacrifices to Zodiark, IE those deaths. So in that situation, in contrast to their earlier behavior where death was just a normalcy, they were refusing to accept it anymore. So then, in that situation should they have just accepted those deaths and moved on?
>The argument is about whether ego death/cultural destruction counts as genocide.
That's literally what the word was invented to describe, so yes it does.
>So then, in that situation should they have just accepted those deaths and moved on?
Yes, what's so hard about this for you to understand? I feel like I'm talking to a wall. I'll repeat:
>The problem was not that they died or chose to continue the cycle of the Lifestream, but that they were so terrified of the reality of death that they couldn't acknowledge it for what it was and thus had invented some flowery fiction of what it entailed, leaving them unequipped to deal with death when it was no longer a choice.
The issue was not that they killed themselves. It's the way they treated it. They never, not once, accepted death as it actually was.
>leaving them unequipped to deal with death when it was no longer a choice.
I'm pretty sure it was the trauma of watching their loved ones be slaughtered in front of them that did that.
The ones they were trading the souls for hadn't been slaughtered. They offered themselves to Zodiark. So no, you're just a fricking idiot. How can you even argue that they had a healthy understanding of death when their immediate reaction after the Final Days was to start culling the cycle of life they supposedly committed suicide in order to protect?
>How can you even argue that they had a healthy understanding of death when their immediate reaction after the Final Days was to start culling the cycle of life they supposedly committed suicide in order to protect?
It's almost like trauma causes people to do things that they normally wouldn't do. Fricking crazy isn't it?
>culling the cycle of life
Was I "culling the cycle of life" when I disposed of thousands of those three-eyed homosexuals? WoL has surely killed countless sapient and non-sapient things by now, you know?
Did WoL trade all those dead Garleans to a primal instead of letting them join the Lifestream? Do you know how a cycle works?
>Did WoL trade all those dead Garleans to a primal instead of letting them join the Lifestream?
What about all those souls we burned as rocket fuel/dragon kibble?
There's also a universe scale Lifestream they mention in Ultima Thule. Aether flows between planets, and between galaxies.
>It's the way they treated it. They never, not once, accepted death as it actually was.
Could it be that you're actually the one not accepting death as it actually is in this setting, and instead insist on transposing reality into the fiction?
Black person, Hythlodaeus didn't even want to hear the word 'death'. Thinking of the process as 'death' made him and other Ancients uncomfortable. You have no argument.
>Hythlodaeus didn't even want to hear the word 'death'.
Dude basically tilted his head and said "now there's a word I haven't heard in a while."
Meanwhile, Hermes got so triggered over Hythlodaeus's speech that he ended up triggering Meteion.
>Meanwhile, Hermes got so triggered over Hythlodaeus's speech that he ended up triggering Meteion.
Yeah, was rightfully triggered by the frivolous way everyone else treated death. Death isn't something to be taken lightly. It's something to be respected, and the choice to die is something that should be carefully considered and should weigh heavily upon everyone involved. To them it wasn't, and that's the problem. That's exactly what killed them in the end.
>and the choice to die is something that should be carefully considered
And choosing to die when you've lived a long life and have fulfilled your goals isn't doing that?
> and should weigh heavily upon everyone involved
So I guess we just ignore the part where Emet says that everyone feels saddened when someone chooses to die. Does it only matter if the response is throwing a temper tantrum and making it about yourself like Hermes continued to do?
>And choosing to die when you've lived a long life and have fulfilled your goals isn't doing that?
Not when we see the characters treating it as "well he thinks it's time to retire so he's going to kill himself, anyway you want his job?" You can see this same idea extend to their experiments with new life in Elpis, where they think so little of living and dying that they casually make and unmake new lives.
This is going back to the same semantics argument about if ego death counts as genocide. You people need to get a grip. Venat completely destroyed the culture and identity of the Ancients. Nobody was killed in a literal sense, the same exact people were there before and after the sundering. You seem to think the argument over this point is about whether or not anyone suffered, and not a semantics argument about whether or not ego death counts as actual death.
>Not when we see the characters treating it as "well he thinks it's time to retire so he's going to kill himself, anyway you want his job?"
Hermes's mentor was the one that chose him to take his place. It's not like they just walked up, slapped him on the dick, and said "yo, that fricker is about to be worm food, jobs yours if you want it"
>where they think so little of living and dying that they casually make and unmake new lives.
Only things with souls are considered to be living creatures.
>where they think so little of living and dying that they casually make and unmake new lives.
But death is often treated as a joke, with life being cheap, in the modern day as well. If Elpis is an expression of this with the Ancient's creations, doesn't every farmer, hunter, or animal breeder in the modern world also bear that responsibility?
I think the core of the issue here is that the nature of mankind really hasn't changed from then to now. We've seen how many people sacrifice themselves to Primals?
>Nobody was killed in a literal sense, the same exact people were there before and after the sundering.
Until they died from their drastically reduced lifespans you mean?
Lahabrea was like an old fricking man even for the Ancients. If he was caught in the sundering, do you think he'd have just lived out the remainder of his "natural" lifespan relative to a sundered human? Or would he have just died on the spot because he was already way way way older than any of them could ever live?
>Thinking of the process as 'death' made him and other Ancients uncomfortable.
I say this without irony or sarcasm: What does "death" even mean? By all rights what happens to people in XIV is simply not death as we know it.
Death is death. XIV's setting has reincarnation, but a soul being reused as the core of a new person doesn't mean that the original bearer of the soul is alive again. Just like WoL isn't Azem and Amon isn't Hermes, a new person is born when that soul resurfaces.
So you're saying mommy killed people and then new people replaced them?
Frick you for posting that nightmare fuel inducing picture.
>Death is death.
But memories and experiences can transcend reincarnation, the soul does go on and it retains it's own unique "color". This is obviously nothing like reality, where death is just a raw cessation of being in it's entirety.
The devs writing Endwalker around the pandemic to appeal to people like the one you're replying to and can't imagine a society that isn't modernshit was the biggest mistake from the start. You could tear apart any of the Sundered societies the same way with that mindset.
Reply to my posts with arguments instead of circlejerking your moronic delusions, Black person.
>You could tear apart any of the Sundered societies the same way with that mindset.
Yeah, you absolutely could. All the sundered societies have major issues. That's not what the conversation is about. Do you think this is about sucking off modernity over antiquity like some kind of braindead Black person that can't follow a story?
>just swallowing the msq tripe that revolves around trying to make Hermes "sympathetic" and oh poor him he's just surrounded by awful people who don't care (just ignore the sidequests)
>weird headcanon about ancients being happy about people choosing to die
>is having a melty and brings up real life deaths for internet argument cred
>doesn't acknowledge the thousands who actually did die in the final days, and that in shb the scions acknowledged it was a shit situation and they'd try to do the same in Emet's shoes
Average Endwalker enjoyer.
Go back to your discord
>The sundering didn't kill anyone, thereby it wasn't genocide before you go "MUH SUNDERING WAS GENOCIDE TOO"
Also the entire reason Elidibus seperated himself from Zodiark was because everyone was fighting over the morality of the proposed Third Sacrifice. Clearly enough people were outraged over whatever or whoever the Convocation intended to sacrifice that this lead to largescale infighting between the surviving Ancients, so bad that Eldibus had to come back out of Zodiark and try to stop it.
If the Third Sacrifice was just plants or animals why the frick would so many people have such a serious issue with it? It wasn't just Venat, it was a siginficant portion (described in the short story as "no small number" so a fricking lot) of Ancients were ethically opposed to it. The same people who had no issue with the first 2 sacrifices, whom were their OWN people.
The only logical conclusion, unless you're being deliberately obtuse, is that they were
A) People
and
B)Unwilling.
Venat literally stopped a planned genocide with the Sundering. And also remember, the Sundering, according to Hydaelyn, was a "last resort" to stop Zodiark. He was too powerful for her so she was forced to resort to Sundering him, which meant sundering literally everyone and everything not just him, she didn't want to do the Sundering it was a last resort to stop Zodiark or else she would've just jobbed to him hard.
Venat and her small group of rogue ancients were a minority, scheming in the dark Anon.
It doesn't matter what it was because all life has souls that can be humans, meaning that the question was over human souls regardless of the forms this takes.
This is such a dumb fricking debate because you have both sides whinging about genocide meanwhile both of them will also gladly go "GAS THE MHIGGERS/GARLEBlack folk NOW" five seconds later.
>character who wants to destroy present day peers for the past people
>complaints about genocide all throughout shadowbringers with people mad about Emet being mean to their self-insert and already trying to nitpick the ancients and act like it was some fascist dystopia that was not worthy of life (flying right against the message of the expansion)
>this is fine
>next expansion has a character destroy her present day peers for future people
>suddenly the g-word is forbidden
It's been funny watching this for the past few years, and it'll keep going forever.
The genocide argument will never be settled because half of the argument is using the actual definition of genocide and the other half is using the word genocide to refer to the complete destruction of a culture rather than a race of people. Next time set definitions up front so you aren't arguing over it for three hours.
>refer to the complete destruction of a culture
Not just their culture, but completely erasing their memories, self, identify, and personality, basically resetting them back to infants who had to re-learn everything. At that point the individual is basically dead.
That's still the destruction of a culture and not a race, which is the 'geno' part of the word genocide. If you want to use genocide to mean cultural destruction then that needs to be settled before the debate begins. This has been ongoing for a year and a half now and the debate always just hangs for hours because each side is arguing a different definition.
If we used the UN's definition of genocide, then completely destroying a 'culture' (in this case it's not simply that, it's erasing the person, this has no real life equivalent) actually is considered genocide.
She did specifically do it to wipe out both their culture and their race, and replace it with new ones more suited to fighting Meteion.
Mommygays should just go the bad b***h route and own it, this shit is so pedantic.
There were lengthy debates where she tried to convince them not to head down the suicide path. She wanted to save them. The Ancients could have battled Meteion themselves if they had found the resolve to hope in the face of despair. But they didn't want to.
>There were lengthy debates where she tried to convince them not to head down the suicide path.
I thought the debate was over not going down the murder path, not the suicide path. I don't remember her ever arguing against the first or second sacrifices, and the third wasn't about them killing themselves.
>The Ancients could have battled Meteion themselves if they had found the resolve to hope in the face of despair.
Wasn't the entire point of the dynamis shit that this was always impossible no matter what they believed? Let's say they just accept her argument on it's face, in the end don't they still need to all an hero and sunder themselves anyway?
>I thought the debate was over not going down the murder path, not the suicide path. I don't remember her ever arguing against the first or second sacrifices, and the third wasn't about them killing themselves.
Anon, think about what trading future lives to Zodiark entails. The cycle of life only works because it's a cycle. If you start cutting out the recent souls to trade backwards then the entire thing is ruined. It can't function. If the Ancients start giving souls to Zodiark unnecessarily then there will be no future lives and they'll quietly expire in their cope bubble on a dying husk of a planet. The murder path is a suicide path.
>Wasn't the entire point of the dynamis shit that this was always impossible no matter what they believed?
No, we saw that Hermes could influence dynamis, both with the flowers and with Meteion. The Ancients had just grown apathetic because of their abundant lifestyle. It's like how if you eat every day then lunch is just another part of the usual, but to some homeless scrub in rural Kazakhstan or something he'd feel unending joy if you gave him a McDouble.
>If the Ancients start giving souls to Zodiark unnecessarily then there will be no future lives and they'll quietly expire in their cope bubble on a dying husk of a planet. The murder path is a suicide path.
That's if we believe they would do future sacrifices (For what? Why?) after the third one. Because in reality the third sacrifice was supposed to be a straight trade for the souls trapped within Zodiark, which shouldn't result in a net negative.
>No,
But doesn't Y'shtola specifically say that the sundering was done at least in part to better allow people to interact with dynamis?
If we believe defeating Meteion was possible for the Ancients physically, and it was only their culture holding them back, why didn't Venat just take her followers and leave the Amaurotines? Make her own society?
>That's if we believe they would do future sacrifices (For what? Why?)
They already didn't need to do the third sacrifice, so really once you give into the temptation there's no reason not to continue. The fact that they wanted to keep Zodiark instead of coming up with a better permanent solution and releasing the souls speaks volumes. They wanted their god and his power to stick around.
>But doesn't Y'shtola specifically say that the sundering was done at least in part to better allow people to interact with dynamis?
In part, yeah. The sundered have an advantage in that the lower density of aether lets dynamis actually mesh into their bodies, but that can also leave them vulnerable for the same reason. But Ancients could still influence dynamis externally, so they could have beaten Meteion through hope domination the same way.
>If we believe defeating Meteion was possible for the Ancients physically, and it was only their culture holding them back, why didn't Venat just take her followers and leave the Amaurotines? Make her own society?
Can the hope of thirteen people alone overcome Meteion? Who knows. Maybe she feared what they'd do with Zodiark in the meantime. Maybe she was just locked into the decision because of WoL telling her it was fate. Either way, she clearly did try to get the others to find the resolve to hope and continue on. She did want them to beat Meteion.
>They already didn't need to do the third sacrifice,
They had a strong impetus to do it, just as much as anyone that's lost their loved ones. My point here is the question of why they would ever need to use Zodiark outside of those circumstances again. They already have the ability to make anything they want straight from their minds.
>The fact that they wanted to keep Zodiark instead of coming up with a better permanent solution
Venat wanted to keep Zodiark too. Nobody involved could have gotten rid of him because his existence was the only thing preventing the apocalypse. It never even got to the point they could consider any other solutions because they never knew what the problem was to begin with, they were just trying to solve "the problem in front of their nose" one at a time.
>Can the hope of thirteen people alone overcome Meteion?
The hope of 14 people did. They have 12,000+ years, why not just repopulate? In theory they could leave the planet even, like with Venat's moon evacuation plan.
>It never even got to the point they could consider any other solutions because they never knew what the problem was to begin with, they were just trying to solve "the problem in front of their nose" one at a time.
As far as they knew, the problem was the stagnating celestial currents that Zodiark mended, which also conveniently functioned as a barrier. With that knowledge in hand they had all the time in the world to arrange a more permanent solution to that problem that didn't involve a wish granting soul mech.
>The hope of 14 people did.
WoL was backed up by the hope of like half the people on Etheirys.
>As far as they knew, the problem was the stagnating celestial currents that Zodiark mended, which also conveniently functioned as a barrier. With that knowledge in hand they had all the time in the world to arrange a more permanent solution to that problem that didn't involve a wish granting soul mech.
In that case we've come to the question of whether or not they could have devised such a solution, and have done it before rebuilding their society. They were still living in ruins at that time, with 75%+ of their population in Zodiark. It never got to the point where they were in a position to even do the third sacrifice, it could be that an alternative to Zodiark simply hadn't been considered yet, or thought of as feasible until they'd rebuilt.
>WoL was backed up by the hope of like half the people on Etheirys.
A few thousand people, at most. But that's also if we believe that this hope transmitted across the universe into the final battle, which is possible in theory with dynamis but the mechanics of people happening to spark the heights of their hopes despite not knowing what was happening at that moment is questionable at best.
Is it gay if I wanna mod in some more male hair options? The current selection is 90% lackluster.
Depends on the race in question and the hairstyles you had in mind.
So long as you don't go with a hairstyle from a Korean MMO, or a hairstyle that makes you look like you're from a kpop group, you're fine.
Well. I might be guilty of the k-pop one? I don't know what's current trend on that shit, I just found one that replaces the 2B hair cuz I REAAAALLY do not care for the Nier crossover content.
No, anything that fixes this games lackluster character creator is based, my highlander dude has a decent beard and eyebrows now
Play DRG
Play RPR on the side
Profit
Sex with Zero.
short hair is ugly
short hair is beautiful
Me in the background
>ruins your FF4 arc
>ruins your adventures with Y'shtola and Estinien
>has a male body type because new female characters must androgynous unless they are a random boss
Granted it's not just her. It's also Vrtra screaming MUH AZDAJA.
>Dragon baby boy and autistic voidsent party adventures
Meteion should have been the final party member for the autismo trio ft. Babysitter of light.
>pic unrelated
ZERO SEXO
cute
Imagine trying to defend a society that tells you to fricking have a nice day when you're done your wageslaving.
Imagine trying to tell someone that they can't choose to die after living hundreds of hundreds of years and so there's nothing else left that they want to do.
Imagine being so afraid of accepting the reality of death that you cope yourself into thinking it's not a big deal when your friend says he's going to disintegrate himself because he's bored, rather than paying the process the respect it's due.
So the reality of death is that you're never allowed to die and you're only allowed to die if something kills you horribly and painfully?
Read the whole post next time. The problem was not that they died or chose to continue the cycle of the Lifestream, but that they were so terrified of the reality of death that they couldn't acknowledge it for what it was and thus had invented some flowery fiction of what it entailed, leaving them unequipped to deal with death when it was no longer a choice.
So does that mean if someone were to break into your house and beat your family to death in front of you that you'd be able to accept it?
Yes, when my father died I accepted it. I grieved and then I moved forward because I'm not an emotionally stunted moron who grew up in a convent where I was told death doesn't real and thus was unprepared for the reality of it.
>generic ancient race that reveres the planet, sees themselves as servants for it
>in a universe where souls and reincarnation are actual observable things
>game and community wants us to see this all as bad and deluded and through a modern lens
An mmo for people who hate mmos and fantasy.
Holy shit it's like you actually can't fricking read. Do you need me to split it into twitter sized chunks for you?
>The problem was not that they died or chose to continue the cycle of the Lifestream
>but that they were so terrified of the reality of death that they couldn't acknowledge it for what it was
>and thus had invented some flowery fiction of what it entailed
Want the proof that this line of thinking wasn't healthy for them? The very fact that when the Final Days came they threw away this reverence for the planet and the supposed sanctity of that cycle they claimed to be maintaining. Their inability to face the truth of death left them reaping that precious cycle to bring back the lost.
THE PROBLEM IS NOT THAT THEY DIED AND JOINED THE CYCLE
THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY COULDN'T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE IT AS DEATH AND STOPPED RESPECTING IT TO THE POINT THEY COULDN'T COPE WITH IT ONCE IT WASN'T A CHOICE BECAUSE THEY WERE IN DENIAL FOR SO FRICKING LONG
Uh oh, melty!
Please just forget the people who actually died with their corpses strewn all over the place and the plan was to swap out the people stuck in a big primal away from the whole cycle.
I say "passed on" instead of "died", and I don't want to die painfully either, does that mean that I'm also not respecting death?
I don't know, if you walked in on your loved one having hanged themselves would you smile and clap and continue on with your day?
Depends, did my loved one tell me beforehand that they plan on doing it?
>flowery fiction
But that's the reality of what death is in this setting. You don't just disappear from existence, your soul is reborn. Multiple characters' souls have literally come back from the Lifestream at this point.
I don't even see how their society could work if they did it any other way, the old would monopolize every position of authority and expertise forever and the population would be bursting at the seams if they didn't chose to die.
The ancients can't do anything right in their eyes.
>don't stop a volcano from blowing? woooooow uncaring citygays in their ivory towers
>they stopped the volcano? playing god (only my super cool azem oc can do that!!!!!)
Hot off the presses.
>trancers shitting up the thread
mental illness
Cute tubby
I very much approve
Too much. Possible lala preg is good though.
Lalafells should be well fed.
I think that Venat is too sexy therefore she can't be an usuable subject for obiective discussion
Be honest, would you guys give yourself to zodiark if you were in their place?
>tfw you've lived for hundreds of years, and done everything that you could possibly do, but you're not allowed to peacefully self-terminate because some autist decides to have a meltdown on your death day
>tfw you keep using shitty cat reaction images for your trancer garbage to shit up the thread
Mommy Venkat milkies and plappies.
SEX WITH MOMMY
https://imgur.com/a/vFadXUG
>Pandyjack still pointing out how shit my static is
I should've just pugged.
The Ancients biggest mistake was that it allowed narcissistic morons to be in positions of power with free reign to do as they pleased.
Why didn't Venat just put a travelers ward on the entire Convocation so that they couldn't be tempered? She wouldn't need to reveal anything to tell them
>hey homies this shit finna nap yo aether frfr douse ma bugspray
why didnt sbe reveal that she had a tracker on the bird to midgardsormr?
Wasn’t he weakened by the journey from the dragonstar to etheirys? Omega was so badly damaged he needed a few millenia and the help of the most advanced empire on etheirys after the ancients to fully recover, so goodness knows what mid suffered when he was protecting eggs too.
that's your best justification? that he was tired?
dragons fought millennia against ascians afterwards
venat always knew the ascians weren't even a real enemy
Probably the best you’re going to get in terms of an explanation, and I do think it’s weak myself.
How do you know she didn't? Midgardsormr only told you what you needed to know at any given point and he wasn't in any state to be following you around anymore after Stormblood where that info was completely irrelevant.
She probably does in the 8th Umbral calamity timeline, since Midgarsormr basically takes the WoL's role there.
So a tiny Midgard would be riding on Zenos-Shinryu's back during the Endsinger fight?
Zenos is too busy trying to find a way to go back in time
If the ancients couldn't so much as interact with UT at all because they had too much aether, how do you figure Middy was gonna do any better? We're sundered and Meteion still basically beat us instantly at first until Thancred did the equivalent of spilling his guts all over the walls to see if it worked and just happened to get lucky.
it doesn't matter if they could or could not do anything, despite being able of interstellar travel, and despite warding scales being made from dragon scales
the least venat could do is tell them who the real enemy is
instead of watch them get murdered and tortured by the ascians
unless, that is, meteion and elpis was written hastily during the development of ew, causing massive plotholes and retcons and ruining the story built up since 10 years ago
If you ever start to wonder whether Venat was wrong or right; just remember that G'raha wouldn't exist had she not sundered the Ancients.
But in G'raha's timeline she sundered the ancients and he doesn't exist.
>in G'raha's timeline he doesn't exist
How does G'raha not exist in his timeline?
Because he's in this timeline, not that one.
LESS TATERS
MORE ZERO
frick you
I would post a Zero tater but I don't have one, so here is a Ryne instead.
Hello sisters.
How do I find an FC to play with?
Azem had Elidibus meet with the WoL so that the WoL would leave such an impression that he (Elidibus) would later remember their friendship so that he would use the Crystal Tower to send the WoL into the past so that the WoL could meet Venat and tell her about the Sundering so that when the time came Venat would know that she needed to sunder the world so that Azem could be sundered and reborn over and over into what would eventually be the WoL who would then be able to save the world from the problem they (the WoL) caused when they helped Hades and the others find Meteoin before Hermes could listen to her answer and come to his own conclusions.
>tfw WoL still needs to travel further back into the past to meet himself to tell himself to foreshadow his own arrival from the future to the past in the future
What if Azem spotted WoL in Elpis and got the biggest echo-like flood of memories? Or at least a big enough one to understand what to do. Since it was all about tapping into someone’s soul.
Story wanting to have both a closed time loop time travel and alternate timelines time travel is confusing.
Agree idk why they did a split timeline in shb
Seems like it was solely to keep the pet catboy around.
g'raha ruins everything again
I bet we'll end up having to visit the alternate timeline at some point.
>you go back in time
>don't change events fundamentally, so the timeline stays the same
>you go back in time
>change events fundamentally/avert an apocalypse scenario that originally happened
>timeline splits
Makes sense to me?
Why'd the timeline change for an apocalypse and not a single atom being out of place?
Put another way, why is the threshold [historical event] being changed and not, like, [the movement of an entire galaxy] being changed? If you think about it stepping on an anthill is of no more or less scale to an entire universal timeline than wiping a continent clean of life.
Those are your rules on it, clearly not Square's.
Their take on it is that changing the course of history majorly (not-Sundering, pursuing Hermes preemptively, etc.) will change the flow of time.
Whereas adhering to everything that would majorly shape the future of the star does not.
>Their take on it
I think that's your take and you're just projecting your ideas as theirs even though they've never said a thing about how it actually works.
You might wanna replay both Shadowbringers and Endwalker.
Oh weird I don't remember that, can you please source me the quotes explaining how and why one timeline splits and one turns into a timeloop? Please and thank you.
One of those timelines had its Crystal Tower stripped from it. Can't be a loop when you jumped the Crystal Tower across the Rift, into a shard where time ran differently for a hundred of its years.
CT was jumped from the future, not the past. It didn't retroactively delete itself from their timeline.
Could you explain to me why G'raha splits the timeline by averting the Calamity and Venat doesn't by redoing the Sundering?
Let me guess, the answer is: "they changed the rules/retconned"
Because we are her little spark and she loves us 🙂
???
Endwalker seems to imply that you can't change the past and all events are predetermined already so changing the timeline and splitting off a new one should be impossible.
G'raha did literally that in Shadowbringers.
Venat seemed to consider doing that in Endwalker when she argued with her people and tried to convince them, only to have them turn her back on her.
Now that I think about it, I don't remember if there was anything concrete in the dialogue saying it was closed loop timetravel. It's possible people saying it was has just made me believe it.
I don't think it was ever confirmed as such, but it's possible to come to that conclusion.
You can also come to the conclusion that it was made into a self-perpetuating cycle *after* the Sundering.
I think Elidibus in the Crystal Tower says something like "Don't change anything, this is the present that you need to return to." when you get sent to Elpis.
>gets told to be careful about fricking around in the past
>immediately blabs everything about the future to everyone, not sparing a single detail
Way to go WoL
Tbf, Emet-Selch literally pointed at us and said "Tell me right now the full story or I fricking annihilate you". It's not like WoL dying there would do wonders for the timeline either.
The rules change.
>tfw Azem saw a world full of adventure via the WoL's memories and decided to make it happen
>Hey there young man, would you like a parrot?
>Why Mr Azem, I'd be deli-
>She's got cancer though.
>What?
>No take backs.
Was being a hobo one of the requirements for being Azem?
Probably, as the ancients seem quite isolationistic. Azem is probably their equivalent of touching things with a barge pole when they absolutely have to.
She didn't. Lahabrea, Elidibus and Emet made her life a living hell in response.
Yafaemi set of Scouting, Anon. Though she uses a mix of other gear like I'm pretty sure her pants/feet are Nomads set stuff and the wristband is from the hippy set you earn from Ishgard restoration.
Meet your 7.0 addition to the Scions
Plappable.
Please no. My penis couldn't take another scion I want to jerk off to.
Ok, well here's your new 7.0 Scion then.
Would be nice if he just immediately showed up, "Hey WoL I got resurrected because shit is still fricked up, lets get to work" but my guess is he will work behind the scenes for multiple expansions before he appears again.
He’s probably busy trying to piece his memories back together and relearn what he had forgotten.
If he's in the lifestream doesn't that mean he's on the way to being reborn?
>beat zeromus mechanically in game
>cutscene
>OH NO YOU DIDNT BEAT ZEROMUS AZDAJAS IS GOING TO DIE AHHHHH
>GOLBEZ CRYSTAL DOES THE THING
>BUNCH OF CRINGE CUTSCENS TO VALIDATE DURNATE AND OG GOLBEZS FRIENDSHIPS
>ZERO NOW KNOWS WHAT FRIENDSHIP IS
>HOORAYYYY WE DID IT
ABSOLUTE DOGSHIT. HOW CAN YOU SALVAGE THIS FAILED STAGE WRITERS SCRIPT ANONS?
INB4 MUH REJOININGS. REJOININGS ARENT HAPPENING gayS.
>HOW CAN YOU SALVAGE THIS FAILED STAGE WRITERS SCRIPT ANONS?
Just get this storyline over and done with as fast as possible next patch and dedicate most of it to this expedition we're going to.
Depends on where I’m allowed to start from. If I have to start from the end of 6.4, then have it be straightforwards; warrior of light duels zeromus, and Zero duels Durante at the same time. Maybe throw in a mechanic or two where the golbez crystal weakens zeromus from the inside, shifting the attacks to the side or interrupting mechanics to sow confusion. WoL defeats Zeromus, but they have to abandon Zero or risk being stuck in the 13th forever due to Zeromus or something making the pit portal collapse.
If I could start from the beginning but had to make it follow the main thing of golbez tries to get to the source, I’d again make him more aggressive. Instead of seeking to open a permanent portal, he organises raids and skirmishes to test the source, see what opposition his hordes will face. WoL and friends intervene, he sends fiends. Fiends go down, Vtra becomes an opportunity. If one dragon got him his four generals, another would be worth capturing. So he uses what’s left of Azdaja to lure in Vtra, and intends on using those two plus the zodiark soup to do a big portal ritual, the main invasion. WoL goes in, big climax duel on the source’s moon, Golbez is defeated at the cost of Zero, and maybe vtra and or azdaja.
So essentially, make Golbez feel like an actual threat and a strategist rather than a bumbling moron who happens to just find immense sources of power by pure luck and then keeps throwing them at the wall to see what sticks while somehow convincing the archfiends that he's totally worth being fanatically loyal to despite accomplishing less than nothing.
Correct, and it’d make the loss of the fiends reasonable if they were sent to evaluate, establish a foothold, and maybe find some more aether for the ritual and got more than Golbez expected.
I'm curious about the golbez soul crystal falling into zeromus, we know that voidsent souls and memories live on in the host when consumed and we know golbez had a strong will so I assume zeromus is going to frick with durante somehow, I also have a suspicion that golbez was a shard of azem and that could play into it somehow but I could be wrong
WoL's gonna rejoin again.
It will get all of Zeromus inside us.
Then Y'shtola will freak out because we're having what happened in ShB happen again but this time even worse (and darkness aspected).
Get ready to see WoL puking black sludge, and for Vrtra to start calling us sister.
Nah I hope not, it would be kinda lame if they reuse the ticking time bomb subplot from shadowbringers
I mean we are already going to be slurping light in the First so we can vomit it on Zeromus. So literally just the end of 5.0, unless we find another way to hoard light and travel with it from shard to shard.
>WoL has darkaids but nothing to balance it out, so he has to go on a journey to find a cure and can't bring his friends or they'll become dark Sin Eaters
Actually quite kino.
Could be a fun enough idea, it’d justify a different cast too.
We really were the Final Fantasy XIV: Traveler.
You do realize that plot would require at least Y'shtola and one person attuned to darkness aether (probably Zero) to come along right? That's what happened in ShB, WoL trying to leave alone was the suicidal move.
Zero could probably come since she's literally already a Voidsent, and maybe some of the First crew like Ryne, Gaia, Cylva, or Unukalhai, since they're either heavily light or dark attuned, but Y'shtola would be just as vulnerable as any random person.
Maybe the dragon scales could help for companions, idk.
The frick are you talking about? There was never any risk of the Scions turning just from being around us. The issue was that if WoL turned, he was gonna turn the Scions right after. There wasn't some sort of radiation poisoning.
>"I'm sorry anon, thank you for BTFOing me."
He was talking about after we turned into a sin eater you fricking dumbass. Emet literally said once WoL turned he was gonna use him to turn the Scions into the next batch of lightwardens. Nobody fricking turned into a sin eater from merely being around us.
>WoL is literally radiating so much fricking light bursting from his pores that every zone overflows with Everlasting Light again
>Emet outright says "you're essentially already a Sin Eater, you've just retained your rationality for the moment"
>he also says "those in your company will turn into Sin Eaters, *and in time* you'll hunt innocents to feast on their aether" (IE after your friends turn)
Ok anon, go ahead and point to us the cutscene in ShB where someone who's around us suddenly go YEAAAAARGH I'M TURNING INTO A SIN EATER and gets sin eater'd.
They literally mention it multiple times outright, are you idiots really so dense that just because we weren't around them long enough for it to happen you didn't even recognize the threat?
Yeah, the fricking light we saw all over the area. Still nothing about people just spontaneously turning into sin eaters around us. Nobody fricking turns into a sin eater out of nowhere in the entire expansion. Even in the presence of lightwardens, the most fricking light infused buttholes, they still needed to be killed for that light to affect anyone.
You literally just made up this point and now are bringing up a bunch of lines that don't say that at all.
>Still nothing about people just spontaneously turning into sin eaters around us.
Yeah?
>Nobody fricking turns into a sin eater out of nowhere in the entire expansion.
No other one is every Lightwarden all in one. But they talk about how even the ambient aspected power of the Empty is dangerous for people to reside in for too long, or it'll corrupt their aether. In comparison WoL is a walking nuclear meltdown.
At that point WoL is Vauthry + 4 other fricking Lightwardens. He's literally spamming Everlasting Light across the entire continent.
You are STILL not presenting a single line that proves your headcanon. "I am a danger to those around me" says fricking nothing, of course WoL is a danger if he's going to turn into a sin eater at any moment.
You can't possibly be this stupid. In Emet's dialog he literally talks about your friends turning AND THEN you going full Sin Eater, in that order.
Post the line where he says that. Funny how it's the only one you haven't posted a screencap of. The one fricking line that actually would prove what you're saying and it's the only one you don't have.
>People of Eulmore live day and night right next to a lightwarden and his army of sin eaters.
>Not a single one turns by just being there, any time Vauthry decides to turn someone he has to take them aside and pull a Tesleen on them when no one's watching.
I wonder why that might be?
>*and in time*
Yeah.
Like *after* WoL turns.
>>Emet outright says "you're essentially already a Sin Eater
Emet being wienery and proclaiming his victory prematurely? Say it ain't so. If WoL really was already a sin eater, please explain why right now we're in EW and not in the "ascians won" expansion.
How would the light aether corrupt anyone around when it's not even able to corrupt the person holding it?
You have the Blessing of Light and yet you are literally already corrupted. What part of "you have all but become a Sin Eater" and "your mere existence will serve to engulf the world in Light" did you not understand? Feo outright says that your very soul is cracked and leaking Light everywhere.
I posted it before, but you're just being moronic and refusing to see what it's saying in plain text. WoL literally tries to run off alone because he's radiating aetheric fricking cancer everywhere, how do you explain that if his mere presence isn't a danger of doing EXACTLY WHAT EMET-SELCH SAYS, TURNING YOUR FRIENDS INTO SIN EATERS?
Again, WoL is ejaculating so much Light that it's covering an entire goddamn continent, coming direct from him. He's every Lightwarden in one at this point. The way Sin Eaters turn people is by disrupting the harmony of people's own aether with an abundance of Light, and even mid-level b***h Sin Eaters can do that. Do you seriously not think long enough exposure to WoL dumping Light everywhere would do the same thing? Extended proximity to waves of a Primal's aether is also how you get Tempered mutations like the drowned too, the principle is the fricking same and WoL may as well be a fricking giant chunk of graphite spraying radioactive Light everywhere.
You morons are dumb. Read what he says again, and read the fricking room afterwards, then have a nice day.
Oh god please don't tell me you were refering to
Where he is clearly talking about after you turn into a sin eater, just like Tesleen didn't immediately start doing sin eater shit after turning and instead ran away.
>WoL literally tries to run off alone
Because he's going to turn into a sin eater, yes. You keep mentioning this as if it proves your argument. It doesn't.
>The way Sin Eaters turn people is by disrupting the harmony of people's own aether with an abundance of Light, and even mid-level b***h Sin Eaters can do that.
Yeah, by fricking running through people and then physically injecting them with light, like Emet wants you to do once you've turned into a sin eater. At no point in the game does anyone turn from merely being near a sin eater. At no point in the game does anyone say this is a thing that happens. The only circumstances in which this happens is with the lightwardens, and they explicitly say that's because when the light aether has no vessel it immediately searches for the nearest one. But we're talking about a situation where it does. Until WoL is fully turned and can't fit any more aether at all, it's not gonna go into anyone else.
Stop reading lines that don't say what you want them to say and immediately headcanoning something different.
>Where he is clearly talking about after you turn into a sin eater
Not only does he say that you are basically already a Sin Eater, but he also says that your companions will turn and THEN you'll lose your mind. He says this directly and instead of arguing his words themselves, you just keep saying "nu-uh" like a fricking dumbass.
>just like Tesleen didn't immediately start doing sin eater shit after turning and instead ran away.
We literally see Tesleen's vision fade to white. "Sin Eater shit" is following stronger Sin Eaters, which is exactly what she does you mongoloid.
>Because he's going
to turn all his friends if they stay by him. Which is why a big deal is made of all the Scions resolving to follow him to the end no matter what, because in doing so they were essentially signing their own death warrents.
>Yeah, by fricking running through people and then physically injecting them with light,
Yes, that's how basic b***h Sin Eaters do it. WoL is LITERALLY RADIATING ENOUGH AMBIENT LIGHT AETHER TO COVER THE SKIES OF THE ENTIRE FRICKING CONTINENT. Did the Flood of Light ITSELF need to stab people to turn them into Sin Eaters? No you fricking idiot, the raw power transformed them!
>At no point in the game does anyone say this is a thing that happens
Emet says exactly that but you just keep ignoring it. Are you really seething this badly because I made a joke about you being BTFO, to the point that you can't even quote what he says, instead just pretending he didn't say it?
>The only circumstances in which this happens is with the lightwardens, and they explicitly say that's because when the light aether has no vessel it immediately searches for the nearest one.
WoL is five Lightwardens in one and his vessel is fricking split like an egg and spraying Light everywhere.
>and can't fit any more aether at all
WoL's soul was ALREADY too fricking full and cracking at the fourth Lightwarden, before he absorbed the most powerful one.
Holy shit you're dumb.
Yeah, I had hoped after 6.0, but at this point I don't think we'll ever get rid of any on the scions. That problem will be solved in 5 minutes
But we fight golbez mechanically in game not zeromus anon.....
for 6.5 zeromus fight sister.
She cute.
What was with the tremendous personality change from the Ivalice raids to Bozja?
dog shit writing.
busted trash after matsuno and failed stage writer did to her.
cute moron
I hope her crush on cid goes somewhere, it would be cute but I'd worry for her life after what happened to moenbryda and minfilia
Ivalice bros we're going home next month when they announce it at fan fest.
tbh I fricking wish. Imagine all the lore they woukd finally add for raen/both viera/hrothgar. At best though we might get parts of south Othard and a lot of Meracidya if they dont push it and make a massive expansion with both/new patch zones.
>no one knows who wol is
>get a letter from my homie bwaagi to attend his bros anniversary of the war ending
>some gay tries to pick a fight with wol
>autism him to death
>go to nagxia and see rice picking lizards
>kill mysterious big bad
>leave and ignore ashe.
>help lyon give papaga a good life
>leave because alphinaud needs a weapon of light again.
it could be good if no matsuno homosexualry.
Returning to my home village to breed...
Yes
that's a man
Unlikely, but I would like it.
But I wanna go to the new world to establish a colony 🙁
unless its martyn and the crew being zany fricking weirdo i dont want anything to do with muh natives and mun colonists themes again.
It's going to both like they did with Endwalker where we went everywhere.
And use up all the potential new expansion areas at once?
that's how the story is written. Garlemald, or Thavnair + surroundings could each have been an expansion on their own, but the name of the game seems to be ADHD jumping around the world. Meracydia will be a single zone, you know I'm right
It was originally meant to be, if I’m not mistaken. One expansion to wrap up the garlean war, the other to wrap up the ascians. You are probably going to be right, rather unfortunately.
>oh hey fran is with me in dalriada fighting
>has some generic bow
shame.
what's wrong with their faces? why do they look so bad? especially the right
It's a PS3 game.
>matsuno gays thought this looked cool
what a bunch of cringelords.
>bunny tail
for what reason
>"It's over. Ivalice has fallen."
>"Bunnies must die."
>hideous mod monster prostitute in ugly glam vs. actual Viera
I fricking hate how XIV players have ruined this race for me. Viera are supposed to be cool amazonians, not wiener guzzling witches.
and Male Viera never should have been made, even if they are cute
Gimme Lea Monde you cowards.
why isn't the big ass hole in the ocean not on the map? where is it anyway? I kinda slept through most of the ivalice story.
troony game thats how
TraNS
Bunnies should've been more anthropomorphic.
I disagree but they should have had big fluffy chestfur that I can stick my nose in and huff.
>focus on krile wanting to fight
snoreeee
>invitation inviting urianger and thancred but has ulterior motives
snoreeeeee
poor wol cant even go on an adventure without being dragged along by other homosexuals.
Well, it is probably hard to contact someone like the WoL. Krile’s place is probably the closest WoL has to a fixed address in a major city.
why is nobody playing ffxiv anymore?
Because I'm not in the mood to read.
I'm farming TT cards right now
>I'm eating shit right now
good for you!
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Nothing to do for extrinsic motivation and they've made it instinctually unfun in an attempt to court both mega-casuals who don't want to play the game and 'hardcore' raiders who want to achieve big numbers easier. The latter want to pretend that the massively casualised and sterile state isn't for them, when the former doesn't even know what a two minute burst is.
What's a reliable way to make dosh if you're not a crafter?
I need some dough but don't exactly have the time to invest in gathering and crafting
Sell your body in Limsa
uninstall this piece of shit dead game and get a job loser
What race are you?
make 39 alts with their own fcs with their own houses on dynamis with their own submarines
ez 20 mil gil a day
Outsorce it to the third world. You can get a mil for like 50 cents, why work for a fraction of minimum wage?
My friend makes some good gil as an in game photographer, he'd make more if he did lewd pictures but he doesn't want to
Island sanctuary materia.
Once the WoL turns into a lightwarden/second eden, yeah. But while they’re still humanoid they’re fine, the scions weren’t affected even in Amaurot when the WoL was suffering most.
Femroe Limsa Dommy Mommy Pirate and Captured Slave RP
THIS FRICKING CHOCOBO COLOR CALCULATOR KEEP LYING TO ME
Skill Issue
Works on my machine.
look at this piece of shit
repulsive
Rude.
kys
>Scion haters are speedreaders that misunderstand the story
Every time
They really are just trancers lol
Well, I mean... why would they not be?
It's not daddy Emet or bff Hythlodaeus, so they're not going to pay attention lmao
Hrothgar women will be too powerful to contain. The cute autism will be legendary.
They'll be just a fart in the wind.
I wanna try tank but I don't know how to go on about it, when do people use their CDs? How many? Which one should I use? Shit like that.
If health goes down quick, use one cd that has a shorter cooldown. If problem isn’t solved in a few seconds and health goes down even more, use another. Repeat until issue is solved.
when boss casts tankbuster, use invuln. If no invuln, use the buttons that say they reduce damage. When boss casts aoe, use reprisal or shake it off. That's it.
Sprint is a mitigation.
Arm's length is a mitigation.
Keep your tank stance on.
Aoe all the pulls to assert dominance.
Keep the boss turned away from the group at all times.
Try not to use your mits during bossfight, you healer will handle the damage, save mits for pulls which always hit harder.
Check your healer's level, if it's an innocent sprout be gentle.
Astros are sus, keep your guard up around them.
Use your invun only during really fricking long pulls or when you run out of mits.
Don't start tanking with paladin.
Advanced more: try to adjust the boss' position to allow positionals if you have drk/mnk/sam/rpr in your group. Aka keep its butt and side available for a safe strike.
That's all you need to know.
>Watch bong TV shows at mom's house
>A Touch of Frost "Hmm this guy sounds familiar, he's probably a noble in some vidya"
>It's Aymeric
>Doc Martin "Hmmm this woman sounds like Y'shtola when she's doing a serious voice"
>It's Y'shtola
Y'shtola's VA also did Titania.
And Nophica.
And some random radiant guard in EW I think.
She did a lot of voices in the game, I'm talking TV
Most of the voice cast are bong actors.
>Trancers are still arguing this shit
Get a fricking life holy shit. I'm so glad moon bunnies exist because you hate them. Fricking secondaries aren't even FF fans.
two types of catgirl players
nope, cause both are trannies
Give Elezen wife.
>elezen's wife
I like the scions and hope they stick around for the next expansion
i like em all except alisaie and krile. Krile is stupid wanting to fight and be useful when shes fine being a background researcher. Alisaie is been a shit character after coils and has no redeeming value or character of her own and now shes attached to alphinaud in garlmald because !?!?!??!!?. what a shitty character.
i really wish the b teams got some shine already.
Krile is nice but I agree on alisaie, don't hate her she's just meh
Alisaie works well when she's in a supportive role, taking care of Gabu and the little Auri boy while refusing to give up on them. It's when she's her usual self she's unbearable, her "I can fight too" braggart little man shtick is so annoying.
>ohhhhh I love delicious flat chested girls
Tataru
I just think Alisaie was given a shitty ass role in EW. She's basically just Alphinaud's shadow, which is kind of funny because it reminds me of that comic where she talks about how their mom made them each different outfits and then Tataru gave them the exact same on for Garlemald.
Even then the scene where she calls out Zenos was good.
>let me negotiate with the garleans!
what a dumb c**t and a dumb writer whoever forced that shit.
I'm glad she got relegated back to being a side character, it means best girl Y'shtola can get more screen time without the brat ruining it.
Alisae is prime underage pussy yet not enough art
I hope at least sye gets huge breasts like her mom when she grows up
You can't say that anon don't you know they're the reason nothing ever happens in the story and no new characters ever get introduced and we never get new companions?!
Even though shit is constantly high stakes af in the story to the point people are asking to tone things down.
Even though they've been here from the start and yet the game now has a cast so ridiculously large the writers constantly struggle to give everyone relevance.
Even though G'raha, Estinien, Zero and Vrtra are all new companions that joined us within the last expansion (actually, I guess G'raha just reached his first full patch cycle time since he joined, so happy birthday G'raha).
Sup my dudes
Anyone care to drop the island sanctuary workshop thing for today and tomorrow?
Plebbit still having a tantrum
haha just join the discord bro! 🙂 uwu
I don't want to but I'll do it to stop bothering you guys, got a link?
no. frick off
Just look at the fricking supply and demand and build accordingly. You'll be fine making slightly less cowries than maximum for a few weeks.
join the trooncord
What exactly is the point of dungeon bosses? They provide less challenge than w2w pulls and almost never have any interesting mechanics
they just need to add mechanics to trash pulls other than chaining mitigation. Easiest way to do that is add casters to trash pulls (that cast sleep on your healer lmao).
In general, because content (including MSQ content) is gated to dungeon completion, they are tuned to a much lower level of difficulty than even normal trials or raids.
Lygnbakr's half room aoe roar is the same as Hansel and Gretal's roar from the Nier raid
Why is it so hard to find people for P11S prog in PF? I've already cleared P9S and 10S and those are suppose to be harder than P11S which so far is true since the mechanics of P11S are simpler. Is it just my sever or is P10S just that big of a wall for PF?
the game is just dead.
https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/54
I personally started playing poe and genshin again. I can't bring myself to log in...
genshin is a good game.
have you tried blue protocol? the jp version?
No. Is it any good?
yes
Can Humans even impregnate Viera? I can't remember a single half-breed in the game besides Hilda whos half Elezen.
No but that won't stop me from trying.
P11S being easier also means that there are less prog groups, since people can clear and move on from the fight faster.
Shit, I didn't think I would run into these problems since Savage is on week 3 now. What should I do then?
I have no idea what your link is trying to tell me?
>What should I do then?
Try DC travel. Otherwise, wait for latecomers to finish Pandaemonium Araña to fill your groups, or sneak into an 11 group not at your prog point if desperate since the fight is easy enough to fake-it-till-you-make-it.
Female WoLs
Give me one lore accurate reason why you aren't getting docked down by burly Roegadyn men nonstop
The burly roegadyn men are busy lusting after arcanist catgirls
im getting dicked down by a sharlayan artist.
Is there a way to know what sells as gatherer without autistically checking the market board?
Universalis?
Well I think Emet is a bully
I don't like Emet
I find it amusing that last person who wants emet selch to come back to life for another cameo is emet selch.
>LEAVE ME ALONE YOU DUMB FUJO SHITS I WANT TO PASS ALREADY
Emet... had a dumb life.
>finally reincarnates
>his parent is the WoL
42 days until NA fanfest
Brace
42 days until G'raha Tia femhroth ntr
How do think the devs will dumb the game down even more when fanfest hits?
>we heard you dislike the 2 minute party buff meta so we have removed all party buffs from the game, please look forward to it
Say goodbye to positionals and look forwards to ogcds being trimmed and reworked so you have six buttons total as dps, your regular rotation from before and one ogcd for the gaps. Maybe two if you’re lucky.
If they do that how are the devs going to make fights interesting and challenging?
I am ready.
I wish the Myths raid were a bit harder.
I used to hate you Bleetzball folks. Now I understand.
Cid will never be topped. It's time to move on.
I miss Alliance Breaker Cid. The man who exposed shitters.
TRANY POSTERS FRICK OFF.
>3 (you)s
Oh you do flatter
I know blitzballer has been a highly requested job in the west but do the japs want it? SE seems to only really listen to them.
>do the japs want it?
Maybe. Wakka became really popular recently(due to a meme) so theres that.
Was anything done about the psycho that was claiming online that he plans to show up to the fanfest with a rifle?
Hermes the type of homie to speak up at a funeral when everyone keeps saying how it was an unfortunate tragedy
>well ackshully it wasn’t a tragedy that implies some sort of thespian background and not rooted in reality, in actually he tripped and fell into that wood chipper, everyone remembers his blood curdling shrieks of horror, why are y’all likening it to a play? He died of blood loss due to his injuries it wasn’t Shakespeare
Nah, Hermes is that dramatic homosexual at a funeral that has to cry louder than everyone else, flops all over the casket, and then gets into a fight about how everyone isn't mourning the dead properly. And then when you call him out on it later he flips his shit and knocks over the dinner table.
This except he gets so upset he gets wasted and kills a family while driving drunk
Do we need a Hrothgar on the Scions?
By being forced to intervene while her moronic brethren decided to turn into a suicide cult
I honestly have no desire in reclearing P10S, the fight is just not fun in pf, I guess I'll skip straight to P11S.
someone post Venat or Yshtola with big boobs already
sorry, havent made any new pics for months
GATO SEXO
nice
the WoL should marry nakadashi both Rul sisters
Made for feeding WoL and their kittens.
.
based
https://files.catbox.moe/1spmg4.png
Did this motherfricker just die offscreen or something?
Pretty sure Arya still talks about him.
>arya is in the scions instead of alishitter.
its a better dynamic already.
Sorry, Estinien is the only job NPCs that's allowed in MSQ.
Probably, none of the jobs will be getting new stories, and he’s too tied to Albania and red mage stuff to really be used anywhere else. Plus, only players who’ve played red mage know him.
This seems pedantic. Does it really matter if WoL was going to infect his friends and transform or transform and infect his friends? The point is WoL was a ticking time bomb, can you stop Emet and save G'raha before you morb out?
The original question was about whether or not WoL infected with the dark aether of Zeromus would pose a threat to his friends.
The original point was if WoL absorbs Zeromus and gets aether sickness again (which would be a lame repeat of ShB) whether the Scions would have to help or stay away.
Which is a moot point either way because they have the talismans now that protect from exactly that and whether it takes longer or not WoL would still need Y'shtola and one more helper to stay alive while looking for a cure. So it's not like there was any actual point to that.
>lame repeats
they dont care. they do it all the time
Why Y'shtola? You brought her up specifically before too.
Because in ShB what was needed to keep WoL alive post-Mt.Gulg was for Ryne to use her Oracle of Light powers to keep the light within you under control. But she can't see aether so she was completely blind to it (remember that Ryne didn't even so much as notice anything wierd with WoL's aether by herself), Y'shtola was her eyes during that operation. The only alternatives to Y'shtola here would be an unsundered ancient that also could feel aether, or Matoya since she's the one who taught Y'shtola how to use that spell. But there's no unsundereds left and Matoya is too fricking old to go around adventuring.
>But she can't see aether so she was completely blind to it (remember that Ryne didn't even so much as notice anything wierd with WoL's aether by herself), Y'shtola was her eyes during that operation
What are you basing that on? She could sense the lightwarden before and at the end runs to save you on her own.
Ryne can "sense" stuff to some degree but she can't do any kind of precision work or notice most things, like WoL's own aether being off. There's a reason Ryne doesn't say anything about it before Rak'tika and immediately after Rak'tika you get that scene of both her and Y'shtola checking on you, asking how you're feeling, telling you to rest, etc.
But is that your inference or is it something they actually say happened?
They did say it, after Mt.Gulg it took the combined efforts of Y'shtola and Ryne to keep you alive. If they hadn't done it you'd have died/turned in your sleep.
who is Wanko Wan and Superdry Eagles?
what significance they have in the development of ffxiv?
I've come to realize that Emet-Selch is the character for people who like to fashion themselves as intellectuals but are actually dumb as bricks.
I still like him, though. Just not his fans.
Emet-Selch is a fantastic character and I enjoyed him a lot.
But goddamn he's unfortunate in the kind of fans he gathered.
Not only have they ruined Emet for me, but also the Ancient story as a whole.
It took me until recently, while listening to Endcaller, to remember that I once enjoyed the tragedy of their story and considered it poignant. And now I still can't feel it the same way I originally did.
>Not only have they ruined Emet for me,
You did that to yourself. The opinions of other people don't mean anything for your own unless you're just an easily-swayed or reactionary moron.
Nah. It's difficult to enjoy a character when the other people who like him just constantly spout the dumbest shit because they want to be fricked by him/want to watch him frick hythlodaeus
What the frick are you talking about?
Literally what I said.
It's hard to enjoy a character and not wince when you have to share the character with a bunch of deranged, melting fujogays who are still mad that they didn't get their emet-hythlodaeus fanfics
Are you the same schizo that gets triggered over G'raha? Are you getting triggered over Emet now?
No?
G'rahagays don't melt down daily and scream that the story/game is shit because G'raha didn't get to frick the WoL yet or whatever.
Let's be honest anon, everyone kinda melts that they didn't get to frick their waifus/husbandos by now.
Not daily though.
>tfw you're a Zenosgay and it's canon that he was inside of the WoL
>tfw I'm not a Zenosgay and it's STILL canon that he was inside of my WoL
If I fanta myself after that happened I'm still pure, r-right?
>don't melt down daily and scream that the story/game is shit because G'raha didn't get to frick the WoL yet or whatever.
Where are you seeing these Emetgays having meltdowns because he hasn't fricked their WoL?
Anon stop using twitter
What like all the guys in this thread begging for a nursing handjob from mommy?
Yeah, if those people spent every day of their life screeching about a game/story being bad because they didn't get that handjob.
But they spend every day screeching about how it isn't bad. You don't really think OP was actually badmouthing her, right? It's just a little falseflag bait so he could jump into complaining about trancers, again.
And you don't think any genuine Emetgays are trancers?
I may have done it a few times as a joke when I was horny.
I like him because I fantasize about rearranging his guts.
Shadowbringers seems to be the expansion for people who want to feel smart for understanding things the story literally spits into your face.
oh my god who the hell cares about this lore shitflinging
This is called "discussion", /vg/-kun. I know it's frightening, but it's what Ganker was designed for.
No, I don't care if Venat commited mass murder or not.
Yes, I will simp for her just because I have mommy issues and she makes my penis big.
Venat committed mass murder for me to exist and for that I am thankful
I liked playing that who section as a viera because I choose to imagine she based the loporrits on me.
>every primal summoned by the towers gets a cool lunarian color scheme
>except magus sisters
Hmmmmmmmmm
have the you-know-who-gays already departed from their stupid "sundered are like mangled, constantly suffering handicapped monkey" regurgitations
Man, I'm tired of this eternal back and forth about EW's main story.
Bros how do we feel about that Shadowkeeper mount
It's a mount.
Who cares.
The same way I feel about every mount:
I already have a favorite one so I don't care.
Mount Roulette anon here. Which one is it?
I don't care.
Shouldn't be mogstation
Mogstation shouldn't exist
Having a cash shop in a subscription-based game is pure moneygrubbing
At the very least everything that is in the cash shop should be attainable in game without spending a dime
I probably wouldn't care for it even if it wasn't mogstation but it's the principle of the matter
Same thing I think about Cruise Chaser. Making cool shit be store exclusive is fricking gay.
the dps part of healing is shit bro, what the frick yoship why i cant have gunbreaker rotation on my whm, ast feel like shit bro